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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Adam Scheffier just exhaled Tom Brady has retired. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he got it right. Yeah, just kind of postponing the inevitable. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you're Jim Gray and you do your podcast last

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Speaker 1: night with Tom, do you feel a little slighted here?

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Speaker 1: And if I'm Jim, I reach out to Tom and

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Speaker 1: go Tom, could we do another podcast tonight? Because Tom

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Speaker 1: talked about going through the process. Well, here's here's a

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Speaker 1: portion of the interview last night on the Let's Go

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Speaker 1: podcast where Tom said that he was not going to rush,

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Speaker 1: that he has a timeline. Do you have a timeline?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I know when the time's right. So,

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Speaker 1: like I've always said, it's you know, I'm very blessed

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Speaker 1: to play as long as I had. You know, is

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Speaker 1: as things have gone on in the later parts of

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Speaker 1: my career, whether that was five years ago or you know,

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Speaker 1: even this year, you know, there's a lot of interest

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Speaker 1: and when I'm going to playing and I understand that

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Speaker 1: I don't something, I don't recognize that just when I

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Speaker 1: when I know, I don't know, And when I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And I'm not gonna, you know, race

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Speaker 1: to some conclusion about that. Do you think Tom knew

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Speaker 1: last night when Jim asked that question? That's what I

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Speaker 1: want to know, because I'm gonna guess Jim knew last

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Speaker 1: night that Tom was going to retire. The question is when.

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Speaker 1: But Jim had to go through the process of asking

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Speaker 1: those questions. But you know, you have the podcast with

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Speaker 1: Tom and you could have made the announcement. Then you

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Speaker 1: wait until the next day. Yes, Tom, Now, if the

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Speaker 1: podcast was called Let's Wait, then you would have had

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Speaker 1: to have waited until later today or let's go come on,

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Speaker 1: let's go Yeah, all right? Uh eight seven seven three

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Speaker 1: you gotta come on the new name for the podcast

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Speaker 1: because they're not going anywhere anymore. Like let's go walk

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Speaker 1: at the mall, Mayaby, let's go to let's go to

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Speaker 1: the early Bird. Yeah yeah, yes, Ton. I was gonna

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Speaker 1: give you our noutdated pole results that could be fine,

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Speaker 1: like I did the dated Limerick. Let that noise again.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what's going Okay. I would bet a

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Speaker 1: week's pay that by the end of this month, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's retired forty three and a half percent, both forty

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Speaker 1: two percent. We'll get to what the both means neither

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Speaker 1: eight percent. Jim Harbor is an NFL head coach seven percent. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're dated pole results right. Tom Pellicero from the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network has been on this Jim Harball story. He'll join

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Speaker 1: us coming up here in a minute. Also, hand size,

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Speaker 1: hand size at the Senior Bowl, Kenny Pickett mayhem, small hands. Wow,

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Speaker 1: we are jumping the gun on hand size season. You

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Speaker 1: see it's a couple of months from now. My god,

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Speaker 1: wo how big his hands? What they're Tom Brady had

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Speaker 1: small hands, I believe. Do you have the numbers here, Polly,

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Speaker 1: of course Tom Brady hand size? I have that. There

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Speaker 1: were their quarterbacks were trying to do exercises, come out

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Speaker 1: to get their hands bigger. So you know when they

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Speaker 1: measure that, you're getting a little more flexibility. And I

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Speaker 1: guess Kenny Pickett has some kind of thumb that can

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Speaker 1: he's double jointed. Is that a good thing? I have

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Speaker 1: no idea. You know what would concern me about Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be twenty five when he gets

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Speaker 1: into the NFL. That would concern me. Not how big

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Speaker 1: or small his hands are. I have Tom Brady's combine numbers.

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Speaker 1: His hand size was nine point three eight. That put

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Speaker 1: him in the lower third of all quarterbacks in his

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Speaker 1: draft class, nine point three eight. I did a look

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Speaker 1: at it, and anytime you're under nine point five, it

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Speaker 1: seems like there are stories written that it's on the

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Speaker 1: smaller side. Brady also ran a five point two eight

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Speaker 1: slowest of all quarterbacks at the combines he had. If

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Speaker 1: you combined all the measurables together, he was the least

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Speaker 1: athletic quarterback at his combine. They actually did a rating

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Speaker 1: of it seven Super bowls later. Yeah, I know. See

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Speaker 1: that's where you can talk yourself into or out of somebody.

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Speaker 1: Whatever Belichick saw, and I don't know if he's fully

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Speaker 1: explained it, because when you watched Radiant Michigan, you just

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff George probably had incredible measurables. Who was

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Speaker 1: Pello Sero. He's covering the Senior Bowl. NFL Network provides

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Speaker 1: live coverage of that. It's a Saturday at two thirty Eastern.

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Speaker 1: This Kenny Pickett hand sized Tom. I mean, it's worth

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Speaker 1: bringing you on just to talk about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how controversial is this at the Senior Bowl? Dan, I

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Speaker 1: think we've got one hand size story every year with

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the NFL Draft. You remember a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, Joe Burrow at the combine, after his measurement,

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Speaker 1: tweeted something along the lines of, I've decided to retire

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Speaker 1: of my tiny baby hands. You know, with Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 1: I had heard the same thing. People were curious about

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Speaker 1: that makes scouts think this guy might not have particularly

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Speaker 1: big hands. What I didn't know until I sat down

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Speaker 1: with Pickett the first thing yesterday morning here in Mobile

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Speaker 1: like the resting position for him. Obviously doesn't impact him

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Speaker 1: throwing the football, but if you're talking about splaying out

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Speaker 1: did not get his hand measured here. But you know,

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Speaker 1: his explanation was pretty simple, which is, I'm gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: which is something that quarterbacks do, as silly as it sounds,

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Speaker 1: you roll out your hand to make sure that you're

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Speaker 1: smaller hands. Everybody would love to have a bread far

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Speaker 1: But again, we've seen guys with not huge hands have

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Speaker 1: There's smaller quarterbacks who have huge hands. You know, is

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Speaker 1: You know, is it the end all beal? It's one

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Speaker 1: All right, help me understand you reported Hardball is going

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Speaker 1: to go visit the Vikings tomorrow. Help me understand, Like

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Speaker 1: you have National Signing Day and it's like they're let

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Speaker 1: Michigan's letting him go flirt with somebody to see if

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Speaker 1: trying to find the logic in this from Michigan side

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Speaker 1: of this, and may even Jim Harbaugh, well, Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: if you go back a year, Dan took a pretty

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Speaker 1: the past several months now, which is really since Michigan

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Speaker 1: know that whatever it was, several week gap. He was

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Speaker 1: in touch with NFL people. Those rumors started in December

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Speaker 1: the Vikings new general manager. Harbaugh gave him his first

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Speaker 1: and you just wonder what potentially could happen. But we're

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's absolutely consideration for the Vikings. They interviewed

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Speaker 1: And Steven Ross, You're right, I mean, that's that's this

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Speaker 1: who has his name on practically every building in Ann Arbor,

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Speaker 1: you know, repeatedly saying he wasn't going to be the

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Speaker 1: the possibility that you know, they could that the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: point personally substantiated that that is a front burner thought

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Speaker 1: As always, Tom, thank you, we appreciate your time. That's

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Speaker 1: can win one more Super Bowl. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: confident that Tampa Bay is going to be that good,

426
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: and that probably helped the process as well. No, that's fair.

427
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the idea, you know, they were,

428
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: they were this close to hosting the NFC Championship game.

429
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Speaker 1: I think they'd have beaten the Niners like they could

430
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Speaker 1: have won this year's I know that they have cap

431
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: issues and all those things, but when you look at

432
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Speaker 1: the quarterback situation me NFC, I don't think anybody if

433
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady announced that he's coming back, what are the

434
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Speaker 1: Bucks the third favorite to come out of the NFC? Rams, Packers, Bucks, Like,

435
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that there are some also ran, some

436
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: woebegone team. I'm not sure. I just the again, it's

437
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: it's a little awkward to discuss, but at no point

438
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Speaker 1: daddy here Tom Brady ever be like. I'm you know what,

439
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: I've gotten my fill of football, I think, and those

440
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: other guys that want to come back or didn't want

441
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: to quit usually, okay, that's finding good, but nobody wants

442
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: you on the team anymore because you're not good anymore.

443
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: He just had almost one MVP this year. I don't know.

444
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: We're talking to Nick Wright, first Thing's first co host

445
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports one. I text you when the Chiefs Bengals

446
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: were going into overtime. Yeah, and I didn't hear back. Now,

447
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know obviously what the outcome was going to be.

448
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: I was just saying, I think the Bengals got the

449
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs attention. That's always said. No, let's be fair, Dan,

450
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: because let me hold on. It is gonna take a

451
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: moment because I have to unblock the number and then

452
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Speaker 1: I can. Uh. I think the exact quote, if we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be fair is quote I think my Bengals have

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Speaker 1: your attention. End quote. You personalized it, not the Bengals

455
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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs attention. You made this as a Dan

456
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: Patrick versus Nick Wright thing, which is interesting because I

457
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: don't I didn't know you were. But I did it before.

458
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm from Cincinnati, and I did this prior to the result.

459
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: The end result. Good for you. I didn't do it after.

460
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Speaker 1: What's your point? Why couldn't you didn't do it at

461
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: a half time? Why you certainly didn't do it when

462
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: it was twenty one to three. I wasn't. I wasn't

463
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: rubbing in your pa. Why would you reach out to

464
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: me when I'm at my most vulnerable. Over time, you

465
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: guys won the toss. You got the greatest quarterback in

466
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Speaker 1: the game. You guys were gonna blow out the Cincinnati Bengals.

467
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Speaker 1: If I recall you saying, I just said, I think

468
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Speaker 1: we got your attention. That's all you got it. You

469
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: could have said, yeah, boy they came back. I'm really

470
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: really surprised. Boy, they got a lot more grit than

471
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: I thought. Hey, Dan, a nice little team. You got

472
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Speaker 1: pat my head and then move on a lot of

473
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: things I could have done. Instead, I ignored you, like

474
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: I wish I would have Fritzie's interview request. Dan, I

475
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: was very upset you reach. You know that I'm you know,

476
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Speaker 1: I've got thousands of dollars on the game. I've got

477
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: reputational value worth you know, potentially not earned millions, not

478
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: much on the game I've got. I've got a lot.

479
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm from there, I have a lot writing on the game,

480
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: and you you know, managed to text me when I'm

481
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: at my low lows. I thought it was rude. I

482
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: thought it was unbecoming. I thought it was bullying. Much

483
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: like our last interview. Now, this was just too acknowledge that. Hey,

484
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: you guys won the toss, you got mahomes, you're at home,

485
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: You're probably going to win. I just wanted to put

486
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Speaker 1: it out there and just say, hey, you know what,

487
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: that was a nice contest in the Bengals. They put

488
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: up a good fight, that's all. Let me see it. Okay.

489
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: Do you think I've spent eleven minutes talking about Tom

490
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Speaker 1: Brady's psychology because I was really interested in it or

491
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: because I was trying to avoid this very topic. I

492
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: know how radio clock clocks were filibustered long enough, we

493
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: would be like, ah, we don't have time to get

494
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow right through the commercial break. Just keep going,

495
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: because the dynasty of one continues in Kansas City. Oh

496
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: you know what. They made me talk about that on

497
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: the TV show this morning. This was the question more

498
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: likely dynasty or they never win another Super Bowl. Let

499
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: me ask you that, what do you think it's more

500
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: likely there that they'll win another Super Bowl? Thank you?

501
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: Of course it is. The poor guy Mahomes has one

502
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: bad half, you know what, He's got one good quarter

503
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: in two Super Bowls. He has not played well in

504
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Speaker 1: AFC title games. Yeah, I'm playable if C title games.

505
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Speaker 1: What bite your tongue, sire, I'm sorry the fourteen point

506
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: come back against the Patriots that that wasn't playing Hold on,

507
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: I actually have the numbers about looking at him. How

508
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: did he do the final two quarters against the Bengals

509
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: at home? Said no, I said one bad half. You

510
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: then said he hasn't looked good in ANFC title games.

511
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: So let's actually go to the facts. Something once upon

512
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: a time you used to do but evidently you're allergic

513
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: to now. First DAYFC title game ever against Bill Belichick,

514
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: UH fourteen points second half comeback, takes lead in the

515
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter and then ties the game up with less

516
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Speaker 1: than thirty seconds remaining, when getting the ball back with

517
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Speaker 1: thirty nine seconds. Then next DAYFC Championship game, UH down

518
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: seventeen seven to the Titans, comes roaring back once again,

519
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, no interception. How does he do? Oh, I

520
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: don't know. The next days, I'll tell you how he

521
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: got down the next one the next DAYFC Championship game

522
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: before he touched is the ball down nine nothing thanks

523
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: to a muffed punt and the the Bills getting the ball

524
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: um a thirty eight to six run. Once again, multiple touchdowns,

525
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: no interceptions. Then he played poorly for a hat And

526
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: how did he play in the Super Bowl? How did

527
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: he play in the Super Bowl? Super Bowl? Yeah, so

528
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: let's talk about him first one, the second greatest comeback

529
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl history. Seems good. I don't know. I

530
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: don't know. He had one. He made one play. It

531
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: was a broken coverage on Tyreek Hill. He almost got

532
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: beat by Jimmy Garoppolo, remember doing almost got beat by Okay,

533
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Speaker 1: that's fun. No, no, this is you're you're saying he's

534
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback in the league. He almost Yeah, well,

535
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: he obviously is, especially Brady retiring. Who's the best quarterback

536
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: in football? Who is it? Give me your name? Well,

537
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: an hour ago it was Brady. Okay, that's in the now.

538
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: N we live in the here and the now. Okay,

539
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: who is it? How did how did he do against

540
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady last year Super Bowl? Okay, we live

541
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: in the here and the last year's Super Bowl. Yeah,

542
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: we're just doing some stats here. I'm shured twenty nine. Okay,

543
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: here's this stat for you. Take every NFL game ever

544
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: played in recorded history. What quarterback was pressured the most

545
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: in any single game? Playoff, regular season? Mahomes in the

546
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So if you want to put got sacked

547
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: nine times a week and a half ago and won

548
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: the game, that's correct. I like Joe Burrow let's go.

549
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: How about we call a different play. How about your

550
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: your genius Andy Reid, how about we call something so

551
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't get sacked all these times. You want to

552
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: relitigate last year's Super Bowl, That's fine, we can relitigate

553
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: last We want to relitigate. You want to talking about

554
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: conference championship games? How about how about your your beloved

555
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady not throw three picks in every conference championship game?

556
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: He plays in three second half picks against the Packers,

557
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: somehow escapes that, and now I'm now I'm bleeping on

558
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady day. You're retired from put me in this decision.

559
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: Through three picks against the chiefs AFC Championship game, one

560
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: of them avoided thanks to the DFOURD nonsense. This is

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Speaker 1: fingers Rady don't have any fingers left for ring, So

562
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you can't begin well, this is

563
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm arguing stats with a man that does know tens

564
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: more than seven. I mean, what do you want from

565
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: me here? He actually has three fingers left, Buddies, I

566
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: sold you no, no, no, no no, he Jazelle made

567
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Speaker 1: him cut cut those off. Oh he wouldn't stay. Yeah,

568
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: so he wouldn't stay and say I got to get

569
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Speaker 1: rings for every finger. That's great, that's called that's called

570
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: that's an ins the audience to know something. Okay, I

571
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: want the audience to know what compensated zero dollars for

572
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: these appearances. It is on in direct conflict with very

573
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: popular programming on my own network, so I probably shouldn't

574
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: even be doing them. You won't. I've invited you to

575
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: basketball game. I will go to a game with you.

576
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: You know what, I would rather go. I don't want

577
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: your pity. I will I look, I will, I will

578
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: be seen with you. I will go out and let

579
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: people see and they'll go, oh, Dan Patrick's son. Man,

580
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't look anything like him. You know what. That's

581
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: another day. You made fun of my voice last week.

582
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: The other day, not that long ago, um, when we

583
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: were watching as a family Netflix and one of your

584
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: stupid cameos came on some stupid movie. Okay, now, now

585
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get me mad. You can call me a

586
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: bad host, bad take, bad journalist, but I'm a freaking

587
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: good actor. Well not only good actor, because here's the problem.

588
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: When you came on there, I said, that's the guy

589
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: I go on with. You know what, my wife said,

590
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: my mother of my children, love of my life, one

591
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: who saved my life. He's handsome for an older fellow.

592
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: She look at that is a journalist. She's a journalist.

593
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: She's objective. I love that. That's great. I don't. I

594
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: didn't love it. You know what I said, All are

595
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Speaker 1: you going to La Cgi? No, I'm not going to

596
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Speaker 1: la Oh why you were going to be there? I am,

597
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: I am going to be there. Yeah, but I was

598
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna invite me to meet the crew. Yes, I would

599
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: have you join us on set. Oh okay, where's your

600
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: set right now? I'm just curious. Connecticut? Connecticut? Where am

601
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: I right now? You're probably in Brooklyn. I'm in Manhattan. Again.

602
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: You're always taking little shots at me. Well, it's a

603
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: little little burrow snobbery. No, no, no, you invited me

604
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: to a next game. I thought maybe you lived in Brooklyn. No, no, no,

605
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: that's fine. Uh no, it's because they were in the playoffs.

606
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: That's the other here you look like love see it again? No,

607
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: that's that's a hipster hipster. Oh yeah, I'm a hipster.

608
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: That's a thing. Um No. But so here's the thing, Dan,

609
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: this is I love this Dan and I work and

610
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: live within I don't know, forty five minutes of each other.

611
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: Never see you. What are you doing? I'm going to California.

612
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: What are you doing Friday night? Yeah, hanging out with you? Evidently?

613
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Do you want to go to dinner Friday night? I do? Okay?

614
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Are you is that with you? Or you're just gonna

615
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: give me a resor you make a reservation in my name.

616
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: They'd be like, hey, you and your wife should go.

617
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna take my daughter out, but I didn't

618
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: know if you would like to go to dinner in

619
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: the city. I'm not trying to third wheel with you

620
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: and your daughter. Okay, but you're such a bad guy.

621
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: You give a whole heartfelt. My wife told me I'm

622
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: gonna miss the kids and then and then you end

623
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: it with okay. I guess if you know I was

624
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: already going to be in the city with my daughter,

625
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: you and I hang out another time, Dan, It's not

626
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: meant to be. It's not meant to be, and I'm

627
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: not gonna beg thanks for coming up again. Why do

628
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: I do this? No? I every time this is regretted.

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Speaker 1: This is great for you, your profile. I mean, come on,

630
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start paying you in crypto. Okay, how's that? Okay, yeah,

631
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: that's fine. Hey, Salana has dipped man, now's the time.

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Speaker 1: First things first, go host Fox Sports one. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to go to dinner with him, but I

636
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650
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Speaker 1: of time trying to figure out what's going on with

651
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: Jim Harball. Tom Pelicero the NFL Network, he broke the

652
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: news that Harball is going to fly into Minnesota. Like,

653
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: now it gets real. You know, it's one thing if hey,

654
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm hearing maybe he's reaching out to the Raiders or

655
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: vice versa. And now you have him going to Minnesota.

656
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Now this changes thing or it feels a little bit

657
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: more real. But I'm don't take my word takes Sam

658
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: Webb's word for it. He's the publisher of the Michigan

659
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Insider dot com. On twenty four seven, sports morning show

660
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: hosts of Sports Talk ten fifty The Ticket, Sam joins us. Now, Sam,

661
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us on short notice. So Jim, Jim

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00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: Harbaugh going to Minnesota means what to you? It means

663
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: that he's serious about this job. You know, you're right

664
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Dan that this is different than past sort of I

665
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: think media driven, media driven storylines. I don't think that

666
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Jim Harball really pursued this in years past. But make

667
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: no mistake, he is going after this job. He could

668
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: have silenced this quickly, he didn't. I think there's a

669
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: message in that and that this is so public that

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00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: he is going to Minnesota at a time where he

671
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: is trying to hire a defensive coordinator. I know a

672
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: lot of people are making a big deal out about

673
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: him traveling there on national signing today. They aren't signing

674
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: any prospects coming up on Wednesday, but it is transferred

675
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: portal time. There are things that you're doing and prepare

676
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: for spring ball, to prepare roster management. Right his focus

677
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: is on Minnesota. He is going there to get this job.

678
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: That makes this different. And everyone that I talked to,

679
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: whether they be around ann Arbor agents in the NFL,

680
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: that I talked to, they all expect that if the

681
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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings offer Jim Harbaugh this job, he will take it.

682
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: I thought Michigan was his dream job. He like, what what?

683
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: What is what is transpired here in the last twelve months? Yeah, man,

684
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: it's funny. I get that question a lot. And look,

685
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm I can only try to get in Jim Harbaugh's

686
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: head so much. I don't know him as well as

687
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: his family or his friends that have been around him

688
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: his entire life, but I've gotten to know him as

689
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: well as a media member could get to know him

690
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: over the past seven years, and what I could say

691
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: is when he came to town, it was like he

692
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: was the princess of Munda. They were throwing the rose

693
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: petals at his feet. Right. And you get six years

694
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: into the process, you have real adversity, and you have

695
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: you have the people who anointed you from day one

696
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: sort of turning on you. And they sort of remind

697
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: you that while you came home and this is your place,

698
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: this is a job and support ken of road here

699
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: like it a roads anywhere. So being on the press

700
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: epice of losing your job has a way of sort

701
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: of reminding you or giving you that perspective. I think

702
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: it's that I think that realizing that there might be

703
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: another opportunity that's better for him personally, there might be

704
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: a situation that's better for his family. The window will

705
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: never be wider than it is now. He's coming off

706
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: his biggest success at Michigan. There are a slew of

707
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: teams or wor a slew of teams that he had

708
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: connections to. The iron is never gonna be hotter than

709
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: it is now. He's fifty eight. Now, it only gets

710
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: harder to get an NFL job after this, so I

711
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: think the convergence of all of those things makes this

712
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: an ideal time. And while I think he's loyal to Michigan,

713
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: he loves Michigan. I think probably in his mind he

714
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: will say I got him back. I got him back

715
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: to being in the picture in the national title hunt.

716
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: I left it better than I found it. Now I

717
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: can do something that might be better for me personally,

718
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: might be better for my family. I think that's how

719
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: he's probably looking at it. But the irony of this

720
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: is Sam he beat Ohio State, and because he beat

721
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State, he became a little bit more of a

722
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: hot candidate if he loses to Ohio State than it

723
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: saw same old story. He beats Ohio State, and that

724
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: might be the reason why he's back, you know, on

725
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: the front burner. It is ironic. It's ironic in that,

726
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: you know, his name was out there last year like

727
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: he had never been before, and there were no real takers.

728
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: But again, I think it's also the case that in

729
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: this cycle you just mentioned he's this hot name. I

730
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: think it's all relative. I think it's hot relative to

731
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: what he was last year when there were no takers. Now,

732
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: I mean, how many jobs did you have opened eight?

733
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: And while Jim Harbaugh's name was attached to a bunch

734
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: of these jobs in the media, you talk to NFL

735
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: people and his name wasn't like really in the mix

736
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: for all these jobs. Why is this? People keep asking,

737
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: why is he dragging this out so long? You take

738
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 1: it out as long as it takes for a team

739
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: to show real interest. Right, So this is the team

740
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: showing real interest. It happens to be in the twin

741
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: any third hour. It's related to QUESSI a dopo mensa

742
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: getting that job, a guy that he worked with in

743
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco. So this I think even more so, Even

744
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: as much as beating Ohio State puts you on the radar,

745
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: it's also, I think, really revealing that it took this,

746
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: It took to this point in this cycle for him

747
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: to get a real taker. I think that's another reason

748
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: why if you're him, man, you better jump on his

749
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: train while it's here. Is Jim Harbaugh coaching Minnesota or

750
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Michigan next season? I think that's all about what Minnesota

751
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: wants to do. If Minnesota offers him that job, I

752
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: really believe he will take it. Okay, I think it's

753
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: a prime opportunity. I think he's confident in where he

754
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: left it. I think he probably sees his successor on

755
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: his staff. He probably will will speak up for one

756
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: of them, I imagine before he goes. So I think

757
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: he's feeling pretty good about Michigan state and about Michigan's state,

758
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: and then I think with that it gives him comfort

759
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: and moving on to the next thing for him. So

760
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: if because this is what I can't quantify, I don't

761
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: know if they're going to offer him the job. It

762
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: seems like it's leaning that way. People I talk to

763
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: say that he's Questiodopho Menz's number one target. If that's

764
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: the case and he knocks this interview out of the

765
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: park and they're offering the job, he will take it.

766
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: Good stuff, Sam, thanks for joining us, all right, thanks

767
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: a lot, Dan appreciate it at Sam Webb, publisher of

768
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: the Michigan Insider dot com, twenty four seven sports and

769
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: morning show hosts of Sports Talk ten fifty. The ticket man.

770
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: The NFL just keeps on giving, and if offered the job,

771
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: does Jim take it. This is what I still don't

772
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: understand about the Dolphins. Stephen Ross. If you say I

773
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: don't want to poach him from Michigan, but then Minnesota

774
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: is going to poach him from Michigan. If you want

775
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: him now, you should be saying, hey, Jim, if you're

776
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna leave, then you can be my head coach with

777
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, because I thought that all along, when you've

778
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: fired Flora, that you were hiring Jim Harbaugh and you're

779
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: going to let him go to the Minnesota Vikings. I'm

780
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: surprised if that's the case. Yeah. Point. And here's the

781
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: other side of it. If Jim Harball is using all

782
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: this to play Michigan to get a pay raise, Stephen

783
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: Ross would be involved in that. He's one of the

784
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: biggest boosters for University of Michigan sports. He's covering both

785
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: sides of it. Stephen Ross. All right, A couple of

786
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: phone calls phill in Indiana High Phil. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan,

787
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: always a pleasure. Hey, real quick. When you decide, if

788
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: and when you ever decide to retire, please, for the

789
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: love of God, don't tell Adam Schefter. Pick somebody else, Dane,

790
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: maybe Jeremy schaff or somebody I don't know, But hey, Dan,

791
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: real quick, So do you think the blueprint. Now that

792
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: to stop Mahomes is what Cincinnati did. So they rushed, three,

793
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: drop seven, have a spy. I thought that was an

794
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: incredible game plan, extremely effective. I'm just wondering how many

795
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: teams look at that and try and duplicate that next year.

796
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: Have a great week, Dan, Thank you, Phil. Always great

797
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: to hear from you. I don't know about that. We

798
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: always talk about blueprints. Remember the blueprint for beating the

799
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: Chiefs was keep everything in front of you. Don't let Hill,

800
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: don't let Kelsey beat you. Nothing over the top there,

801
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: keep it all in front of you. And Mahomes had

802
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: a hard time adjusting to that. Eventually did this year,

803
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: and now you have this where you have three rushing

804
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: and then you have a spy on Mahomes and then

805
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: you have seven in the secondary. I thought, I thought

806
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: it was a desperate move by the Bengals, but they

807
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: couldn't solve him. They had, you know, obviously a hard time.

808
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: In the first quarter here was Mike. I just kept thinking, Okay,

809
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: what point does Andy Reid offensive genius start running the ball.

810
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: That's all you got. Jared McKinnon, who I really like,

811
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Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards as you drafted Mahomes can scramble. I would

812
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: have put the pressure there and just said, we're going

813
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: to take up all the time on the clock. You're

814
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: not gonna get anytime. We're gonna have methodical drives and

815
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: you eventually are going to bring those defensive backs up,

816
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna beat you. I just didn't understand it.

817
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I thought it was it was one of those where

818
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: you're watching a game and you're going, Okay, the Bengals countered, Okay,

819
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: their defense in the beginning didn't work. Now what do

820
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: we do. We're gonna go with this kind of gimmicky defense.

821
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: And I kept waiting for the Chiefs to go, oh, okay,

822
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: we see that and we'll raise you, and then they didn't.

823
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: And I just thought, you can run the ball. You

824
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: can run the ball all day long if you want to.

825
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: You can have screen passes, whatever it is. You can

826
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: incorporate Tyreek Hill and those jet sweeps, whatever those things are.

827
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: But I just didn't I didn't understand it. Looking back

828
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: on it and watching, I mean, it was a brilliant decision,

829
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: but it might have been the only decision the Bengals

830
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: had in that situation. Zack and Charlotte joins us on

831
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: the program. Hey, Zachy, but hey, hey, how about that

832
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: guy Nick right man? That dude freaking stinks. Man, I'm

833
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: out on him. He's great, like the way he was

834
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of going after you there. Oh no, anyway, he's

835
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: a good guy. I want to speak with Pritty if

836
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: you don't mind, Pretty sure I am. Hey, Fritzie, I

837
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: know it's been a rough couple of weeks since mclovin left,

838
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: but I want to cheer you up. And I've got

839
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: a joke to do that. So are you ready? I sure,

840
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: I'm let's do it. Seventy nine is the new seventy eight.

841
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Speaker 1: That's Mark, Mark Albert, that's Marv Albert. There you go, Prittie,

842
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: keep your head up, man, that's all I got. Seventy

843
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: nine is the new seventy eight. And then you laughed

844
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: at that Michael micro phone. But that was a good line,

845
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: though my mic still on. Yeah. Uh, I don't know

846
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: if Marvin can pull that up sitting in there for Seaton.

847
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: But classic moments in sports radio history. Yeah, one of

848
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: the greats of all time. Let me uh sneak in

849
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: Jeff and Detroit. Hi, Jeff, let me know when you

850
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: find that, Marge, you got it? Okay? Here it is

851
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: seventy nine to seventy eight Todd, So I might I

852
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: think that that sounds like we scripted it and Marv

853
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: has no idea that Todd is on his you know,

854
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: his microphone is professionally just kept going as if no

855
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: one's talking in the background. Twice, play it one more time.

856
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: Seventy nine is to do seventy eight Todd. So I'll

857
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: be watching it. I hope it gets off. I think

858
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: that so bad. Yes, there's just no explanation. Yes it was.

859
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: It was horrible. I had been kind of doing this

860
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: for a while, you know, being on the air, and

861
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: you would think I would have got the button. Well,

862
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: the Bill Hayter won when you were laughing out when

863
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: when Bill Hayter did as Keith Morrison from Dateline impersonation. Yeah,

864
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: like you left your microphone open during the interview Jeff

865
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: and Detroit. Hi, Jeff Wood's on your mind? Hey, what's

866
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: going on? Dan? What up? No one time for chat ro?

867
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: You got? Sam Webb is right on something. They slided

868
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 1: him when they took away his salary, and I guess

869
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: it made Jim Harball think that you know by them

870
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: reducing the salary, he wasn't doing a good enough job.

871
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Now he's, you know, a hot commodity around town real quick. Um,

872
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: there's been a national joke going around about my city,

873
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: and the joke is by Matt Staff. Were going to

874
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and eminem playing the Super Bowl. That's

875
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: the closest that Detroit will ever be to a super Bowl.

876
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: They're wrong, You're wrong, Bettist. Winning the Super Bowl was

877
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: the closest when the actual Super Bowl was here. So

878
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: just to let them know, if you're gonna drove me out,

879
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: make sure you got the right collar and leaves split me. Wow,

880
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? All right, Thank you, Jeff.

881
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. Bill Plashky, the pomputer columnists for

882
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: the La Times, get his thoughts on the Rams. The

883
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: Rams are the road team in this Super Bowl? Really

884
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: yeah the designation. Yeah, the NFC team was going to

885
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: be the road team in the Super Bowl. So the

886
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: Rams are the road team against the Bengals. Thanks for

887
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

888
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern

889
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you

890
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or

891
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Bill Plashki, the

892
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: great columnists for the La Times, Around the Horn contributor,

893
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: and he joins us Now, Bill, Well, what will you

894
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: miss most about Tom Brady? I missed the fact that

895
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: you hated him. He's a one athlete in American culture

896
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: where you I hated him for ten or fifteen years,

897
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: and now I love him. I mean, he's I missed

898
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: the fact that you the conflicting emotions around this guy,

899
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: or no athletes ever been so reviled and then so

900
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: and then come through it and then been so loved.

901
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's amazing the journey he's taken in

902
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: our in our conscious. What made you hate Brady? He cheated.

903
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: Let's don't forget Let's don't forget this. He was arrogant.

904
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: He was part of the Belichick arrogant era. People knew anybody,

905
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: come on, Dan, anybody outside New England for years load Brady.

906
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: And then he goes to Tampa Bay and he does

907
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: it without Belichick, and he does it on his own.

908
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't on his own terms. And now everybody loves him,

909
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: and I think that's cool. But do you think that

910
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: cheater label? How big is that label? Is it in

911
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: capital letters here? No, I think I think it got

912
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: I think it became over He won three Super Bowls

913
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: after that, so I think I think that became lowercase.

914
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: But it's still part of his reservtor, right, And I'm

915
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: amazed that some of these stories about his retirement don't

916
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: have that in there. I mean, that's part of his

917
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: legacy for Pete's but again, he did. He was able

918
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: to overcome. And that's that's what I remember, is that

919
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: he was able to overcome a whole country, most of

920
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: the country outside of New England really not liking the guy,

921
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: to everybody loving him and respecting him. What was that

922
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: feeling like when the Rams winning to advance but putting

923
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: maybe an end to Tom Brady's career. And Yeah, I

924
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: was there. It was amazing, It was It was amazing

925
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't think that no way he was

926
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: going to retire. The last he threw a fifty five

927
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pastor Mike Evans, We're watching the game and like,

928
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: this guy's unstoppable, He's gonna come back and beat the Rams.

929
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: He's a great He's still the greatest ever and he

930
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: walks away. So it was it was watching the game,

931
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: I thought this guy's got five more years left in him.

932
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he was every bit as good as he's

933
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: ever been. The whole press box was hushed watching this

934
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: guy work. We wouldn't think we were watching a guy

935
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: in the version of retirement. As that's the other cool thing,

936
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: all right. He walked away at the very very top

937
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: of his game. He's as good he was good on

938
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: when I saw him our final game, as good as

939
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: that is when I saw him in his first game. Um,

940
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: what would have happened if the Rams had lost that

941
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: game the same day? That's gonna happen if they Lewis

942
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Man, they're not done yet, buddy. It

943
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: was interesting you said you sounded surprise that the Bengals

944
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: were The Rams were the visiting team in the Super Bowl,

945
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: so the visiting team every game. They don't yet have

946
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: this town, but they're working on it, and it will be.

947
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: If they lost that game, it'll be devastation, but it

948
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: will be similar devastation. They've got to beat the Bengals.

949
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: They have to in order to ensure their place and

950
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: try to get on the pecking order with Lakers and

951
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: Dodgers in USC football. They have to win this game.

952
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this game is set up for him. If

953
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: they can't winning their home mess. I was just talking

954
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: with with others about it, it'll be it's not going

955
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: to be. Well they got this far. Good for them,

956
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, well tried, well, hale and hardy guys. No,

957
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: it'll be devastation. You blew what You're gonna get ripped

958
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: because they've got it. Because that's where they're at this town.

959
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: They have to win a super Bowl championship to really

960
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: forge their place in this community's landscape. If I said

961
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: you could pick the Rams to win the Super Bowl

962
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: or the Lakers to win another NBA title, oh I

963
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: think I'd fake the Rams because it's I like more

964
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: teams and more fun and more variety. And I'm getting

965
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: so sick of the Lake. Lebron's knee, Oh my god.

966
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: The Lakers are just Anthony Davis makes me, oh my god.

967
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think people, I think people would would

968
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: rather be something different, something new. I mean, would they

969
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: have a parade? Would anybody come? I'm sure there would

970
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: be people parade, There'd be a lot of forty nine

971
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: ers fans booing there. What do you think the town's

972
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna be like? Though? Next week it's gonna be crazy

973
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: because the super Bowl is never about who's playing in

974
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: the game anyway. I mean, Shock's got this big Shock

975
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: rented out the shrine or auditorium downtown. He's got this

976
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: big party. I mean, it's gonna be huge. It's gonna

977
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: be It's gonna be nuts and no COVID restrictions or anything.

978
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean even now you can go to like a

979
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: Laker or a Clipper game, nobody's wearing mask. Nobody wears

980
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: mask anywhere any you know, and at these biggest sports events,

981
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be crazy. The rams, not with the Rams,

982
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: are gonna be the smallest part of it. Everybody's crazy

983
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: just because it's a super Bowl. It's la and really

984
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: it belongs here. It started here. I say, the super Bowl,

985
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: welcome home. It should be here. It should be here

986
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: every year. It's a perfect spot. For as far as

987
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: the trade for Matthew Stafford, can you can you give

988
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: a final grade on that trade or do you have

989
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: to let this play out a little bit longer? Jared

990
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: Golf got him to a super Bowl. Man he didn't win.

991
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: Matthew's dad, I'm telling you, I know it sounds like

992
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: we're being tough on these guys, but they welcome that.

993
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: They welcome that. You know, the pressure they've got. No

994
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: Matthew Staffords, it's unwritten yet. If either if he blows

995
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: it against the Bengal, listen, they've got to beat the Bengals.

996
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: The Chiefs might have been a little different. They've got

997
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: to beat the Bengals and Matthew Stefford has to have

998
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: a good game and then I think the whole thing

999
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: on him is rewritten. But if not, then again, Jared

1000
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: Golf got him this far too, so that's I think

1001
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: the trade is still. I think you still have to

1002
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: hold your breath on that, because that's just again, Golf

1003
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: got him to the big game too. Odell more likely

1004
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: to stay if they win or if they lose, well,

1005
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: that's it. I think if they lose it out of here.

1006
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: I think. I think he's I think he's really happy.

1007
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: And I was wrong. I ripped him for Simon O'Dell.

1008
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was a huge mistake. I thought he'd

1009
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 1: be a prima donna. I thought he would demand the ball.

1010
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: I thought he'd lost this this step. I was dead

1011
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: wrong on him. Man. He's really been unbelievable. He's been

1012
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: the difference in the last I don't think they did

1013
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: it without him. I know Cooper Cups the best receiver

1014
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: in football, but O'Dell clears it. You look at Cooper Cup,

1015
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: nobody regards him. Isn't amazing to you. You watch these games.

1016
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever recovering Cooper Cup. I don't understand that. Maybe

1017
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if a football, but I think Odell

1018
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: Beckham takes a lot of the attention away from him.

1019
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: He's been great here. I think if he wins, I

1020
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: think he stays because I think he does love the

1021
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: Hollywood life and he loves the spotlight. But he's been

1022
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: really good for this team, and I was really wrong

1023
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: about him. It's interesting when you talk about Odell liking

1024
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: the city and everything that goes with it, Cooper Cup

1025
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like that's the city for his personality. No,

1026
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: absolutely not. He's so straight and narrow and so you know, understated.

1027
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: He's like some mountain man. It's weird. He looks amish

1028
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: and he seems he seems very reticent. I mean, he's

1029
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: very he's a reluctant star. He say, he absolutely is,

1030
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: and that's what makes me so great. But still, how

1031
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: come nobody guards him? How come nobody's ever covered him?

1032
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: How come he's always open? I just don't came for you.

1033
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: But yes, he's very after the game to see Cooper Cup,

1034
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: to be so excited he's done such great things. To

1035
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: see Cooper had that great you know, eighty eight seven

1036
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: year od cush past field. It felt okay, it was

1037
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: that's a great quarterback. He's really boring. But it goes

1038
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: back to and I don't like making a white wide

1039
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: receiver reference to Cooper Cup, but Steve Largent was such

1040
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: a precise route runner and you would watch and you go,

1041
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: how is that guy open all the time? And I

1042
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: think route running is probably maybe a lost art because

1043
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: we just feel like it's just you get out there

1044
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: and you just go. You're athletic, five wide, let's go.

1045
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: And Cooper Cup is you provide good athleticism and route running,

1046
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: great hands size, you know, that's that's a combination. Trouble

1047
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: Based says a lot of things that I have no

1048
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Speaker 1: idea what the hell he's talking about. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: half what he says. But he does say that Cooper

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Speaker 1: Cup works the edges. He says exactly what you said,

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Speaker 1: that he runs exactly precisely rouphes It's geometry. Is why

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Speaker 1: he's open, is that he keeps He works the edges,

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Speaker 1: he works the angles, he walks the fine line. He

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Speaker 1: does it exactly the perfect way. And that's what and

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what seanmov explains it. I still don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: Double team him, triple team him. Why why is he

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Speaker 1: even getting Why is he not on the ground every time?

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Speaker 1: It's just amazing to me. Do you like Sean McVay.

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Speaker 1: I love him. Yeah, he's he's so energetic and he's

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Speaker 1: so willing, whether it's real or not, to fall on

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Speaker 1: a sword. You say, Sean, that was a terrible call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, it's terrible calls my fall. But I lost

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Speaker 1: the game every game he says, I lost the game.

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Speaker 1: He who else admits moments after the Super Bowl that

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Speaker 1: he got out coached. Everyone knew belcheck out coached him,

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Speaker 1: and he admitted it and he said he was numb. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love the guy. He's his energy is great for

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Speaker 1: the town. But he's got to win too. He's this

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Speaker 1: boy genius, but he's had game management difficulties, some play

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Speaker 1: calling questionable things, had the tough breakup of golf. He's

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Speaker 1: got to He's like Stafford, he's gotta win the winning

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Speaker 1: In two weeks two did he fall on his sword

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Speaker 1: with a Jared Goff situation, because I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I heard him, No, no, not a Charley. We kind

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Speaker 1: of polished the sword for it. I thought they handled

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00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: that terribly. I thought they really Jared Goff was took

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Speaker 1: such accountability and it was such a stand up guy,

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Speaker 1: and they just threw him under the bus repeatedly. I

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Speaker 1: thought that they had that port we're very poorly and

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00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: they've never really acknowledged that. And that's and then so

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Speaker 1: that's part of the part of his past. And then

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Speaker 1: give McVey, we've bas got to win a championship. Oh

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Speaker 1: good stuff, Bill, Thanks as always, we appreciate your time. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: this is great. See that's Bill Plashki. How many times

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Speaker 1: columnists around the Horn contributor. Yeah, Sean McVeigh. You know

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00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: when after that Super Bowl he did admit it was

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Speaker 1: like I got out coach. I think he was in

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: awe of Bill Belichick. It was just weird. Like I'm

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Speaker 1: on the same stage with Bill Belichick, and then you

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Speaker 1: know Belichick is not there to acknowledge you in doorshoe anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to win. Couldn't care less. Bill might not

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Speaker 1: even known who the coach was on the other side

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Speaker 1: the way he is. I don't know his name is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Paul you yeah, you with a nice hair. Yeah. Do

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Speaker 1: you think like you'd be great to do like a

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01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: funnier die with Cooper Cup putting him, put him in

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Speaker 1: a T shirt, jeans and a baseball hat, having at

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Speaker 1: a gas station and just see if people recognize him.

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Speaker 1: But he's probably what six one pounds, very normal looking guy.

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Speaker 1: If he was walking down by, I don't even think

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Speaker 1: he got to put a baseball hat on him, put him,

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Speaker 1: put him in his uniform. That's a guy with eye black.

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Speaker 1: He just doesn't he plays. It's weird you play a

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Speaker 1: position like that where we expect you to bring it

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Speaker 1: to be about yourself, bring the attention to yourself, and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't. He would just make a catch and that's it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It seems like he's a little taller. Yeah then, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a physical receiver. We always try to make a

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Speaker 1: white wide receiver shorter like Edelman. Oh, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a habit. The first I saw Elman a person. He's

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Speaker 1: a small person like Elman's not even he can't be

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Speaker 1: even five eleven. But he's solid. Oh yeah, oh, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't mess with him. Now he's he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: solid little receiver like Amon Dola feels a little bit

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Speaker 1: uh less sturdy. Did we accidentally work into white Cooper Cup? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steve Large at least that was a yes, Marvin, all

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Speaker 1: those guys are scrappy. Yeah, but you're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: say that. We can say that all those guys are scrappy.

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Speaker 1: Sorry about that guy. They're probably coach his sons. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have these code words for white, white receivers. He's gritty,

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Speaker 1: possession guy, scrappy, first one to arrive, last one. That's

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Speaker 1: a great man. I always love that because you don't

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Speaker 1: even have to know who somebody's talking about. But when

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Speaker 1: they say he got a high high I Q he

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Speaker 1: got a really high high motor. Like no, no black

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Speaker 1: players have a high motor, right, apparently not white guys.

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Speaker 1: We got high motors because we have to. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the way we play. You gotta have a high motor. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he can't be fast. He's got to be fast

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Speaker 1: unexpectively exceptively more quick than fast. But no quick twitch.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't have any quick twitch. But you watch Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: and I still go back to Jerry Rice from Jerry

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01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: ran a four six forty. But Jerry never seemed like

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Speaker 1: you could catch him. Um, he had a grace to him.

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Speaker 1: Lance of Lance Alworth was one of my favorite wide receivers, Bambi.

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Speaker 1: He had this grace about him. Like there's certain wide

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Speaker 1: receivers that you know they run with power or you

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Speaker 1: know everything about them. It feels like it's. Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: had that grace to him when he first came into

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Speaker 1: the league, that ability to just make it look effortless.

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Speaker 1: But if you're looking at Odell Beckham's career recovery, it's

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Speaker 1: been pretty incredible. I mean, the Brown's got to be

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Speaker 1: watching this, Giants watching this. I couldn't help but think

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Speaker 1: of the Packers, because the Packers could assigned him and

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Speaker 1: if you could get him for that amount of money

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Speaker 1: or make it incentive driven, I don't know. I thought

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Speaker 1: that Rogers would push more for it. But if you

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Speaker 1: look back two and a half months three months ago

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Speaker 1: in October, and this was a mouse and I didn't

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Speaker 1: think that he was the right player for Baker Mayfield

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01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: in large part because it felt like he could say

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Speaker 1: to Baker, hey, I'm open all the time, and Baker

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Speaker 1: probably wanting to be his friend and develop that relationship,

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01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: sort of acquiesced to him. And people remember that first

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Speaker 1: game without Odell Beckham and then we're like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Baker doesn't need OBJ. And then you're like, no, Baker

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01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: probably needs OBJ. But having an established quarterback I think

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Speaker 1: helps immensely because ob J and you know, you're not

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Speaker 1: the number one receiver on your team, like you know it,

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Speaker 1: you see it. It's not one of those hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: just as good as he is. And he probably thought,

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Speaker 1: I'm just as good as Jarvis Landry in Cleveland. He

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Speaker 1: knows it's Cooper Cup. Then what do you need me

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Speaker 1: to do? And he's done that. To his credit, he's

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Speaker 1: done that. Not the biggest fan, but you know, when

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Speaker 1: he plays and plays at a high level, that's elite stuff.