Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast tweets too much about gold
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Handons. I come to you from
Speaker 1: a virtual room, virtual whool room, filled with some heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal and sitting in on the show today.
Speaker 1: He is the star of the acclaimed instant hit micro
Speaker 1: Seg Money on Money, Matt Money Smith. How's everybody doing
Speaker 1: doing well? Greg? Greg scrunched his face when I read.
Speaker 1: When I read the script, tweets too much about golf,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm responsible, like for the content
Speaker 1: which I didn't that are put in front of me.
Speaker 1: I didn't quite get it, because you know, none of us,
Speaker 1: none of us tweet about golf, were too smart for that.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the irony packed inside the what is Wait?
Speaker 1: What was that little dig there? Greg? You're too smart
Speaker 1: to tweet about golf. Yeah, it's a boring It's a
Speaker 1: boring spectator sport, and tweeting about it would be even
Speaker 1: more boring. I think we all share that. I thought
Speaker 1: maybe it was a commentary on our colleague Adam Rank,
Speaker 1: who tweets a lot about golf these days, or at
Speaker 1: least his Instagram is is there's a lot of golf
Speaker 1: and and I, as a golfer, used to be an
Speaker 1: avid golfer. Um would politely disagree with Greg. I do
Speaker 1: find it to be an exciting spectator sport, Um, But
Speaker 1: I know I'm in I'm in a gross minority. I
Speaker 1: used to know it's popular, it's popular. I used to play.
Speaker 1: I worked at multiple golf courses as a child. Um,
Speaker 1: and I love to play and nothing like uh, you know,
Speaker 1: hitt and play nine holes after you finish your shift.
Speaker 1: But it's a tough, tough like you bring that up
Speaker 1: a lot. You have to make Greg like you are
Speaker 1: allowed to beg on golf because when you were fourteen
Speaker 1: you were a caddie one, so you use that a
Speaker 1: lot as your I played, but I played on stop,
Speaker 1: played on stop, so I was like twenty one or so.
Speaker 1: But yeah, at a certain point you got to decide, Um,
Speaker 1: is that what we're your job? You said, you said jobs.
Speaker 1: So what were the different jobs at the golf course
Speaker 1: you had? Well, you have to run the front desk,
Speaker 1: you know when when people come in, and then you
Speaker 1: have to wash bags. Um, you know when people return
Speaker 1: with the bags, you have to return the golf carts. Um.
Speaker 1: One kid once drove a golf cart into the pool there.
Speaker 1: He got fired. He got fired for that. And then
Speaker 1: sometimes if it's raining, you have to sit at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the hill and drive guys up the hill
Speaker 1: because they don't want to walk in the rain up
Speaker 1: the hill. I mean country club, right, and Greg, so
Speaker 1: you you retired essentially at twenty one? Did you mature
Speaker 1: out of the sport? I mean, people spend their lives
Speaker 1: trying to mass I moved to New York. If you're
Speaker 1: living New York and you want to play golf, it's
Speaker 1: got to be like a huge priority in your life.
Speaker 1: You gotta love it so much. And it just it
Speaker 1: just knocked it out of me. And now you have children,
Speaker 1: Like are you really gonna say, like, I'll see you
Speaker 1: in seven hours. It's a tough ass. That's a tough one.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. And with golf, I was explain,
Speaker 1: and it's not even seven it's and I gotta get
Speaker 1: up early, I gotta stretch, then I gotta play holes.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards were playing some cards, were playing dice
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I'll see you at about nine pm
Speaker 1: and I'll be lit to the nines by the time
Speaker 1: I get one. So you must be with your children
Speaker 1: twenty four seven, every single day of the year, bad
Speaker 1: guy Mark said, good food. Knowing Mark again, I see
Speaker 1: I wake up this morning. I woke up pretty early.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh man, early start today, six thirty. I
Speaker 1: can't go back to bed. I jump on Twitter, see
Speaker 1: what's going on, and I see you sending positive Nate
Speaker 1: Tice tweets at five am. And then I text that
Speaker 1: to the group and say, wow, five oh seven am.
Speaker 1: Mark sent this, and Mark, You're replied that you've been
Speaker 1: up since two. This is not good, my friend, and
Speaker 1: we love you very much, and this is almost we're
Speaker 1: getting to a point where we need to have some
Speaker 1: type of intervention to get you on a sleep cycle
Speaker 1: that carries you into your old age. That's what we
Speaker 1: don't know about. Intervention. Would suggest that I'm like doing
Speaker 1: it on purpose, but it's but you know, and Matt
Speaker 1: money Smith was nice enough to send some suggestions along
Speaker 1: by text, which I'm um following up on. But I've
Speaker 1: been dealing with this for like fifteen years. So it
Speaker 1: is what it is. This is the tough love. This
Speaker 1: is this is coming at you on a broadcast and
Speaker 1: saying you must clean this up because we're worried that
Speaker 1: it's gonna come back and haunt you in the biggest
Speaker 1: of all spots. That's all. Well, I'm certainly will, but
Speaker 1: I believe this is the Circadian Rhythm podcast of record.
Speaker 1: All right, So today's show, I hope everybody had a
Speaker 1: nice Mother's Day weekend. I hope everybody took care of
Speaker 1: their mom um and the wives because some people say, well,
Speaker 1: my wife, she's not my mother, so I don't really
Speaker 1: have to plug in on the wife, just the mother.
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, you gotta do both. Good luck with
Speaker 1: that method. Yeah, you try to go one or the other.
Speaker 1: That that logic is not going to carry over. So
Speaker 1: I think I hope everyone that's listening to the show
Speaker 1: made the right decisions this weekend. Coming up on today's show,
Speaker 1: with the draft now a little bit in the rear
Speaker 1: view of me, or it's time to try to enter
Speaker 1: reality into the conversation of all these rookies, because if
Speaker 1: you listen to the football cognis m you know how
Speaker 1: I feel about that, Dan, you know how I feel
Speaker 1: To tell you, they will feel about is silent in
Speaker 1: the town you know how I feel about it. Let
Speaker 1: me hear let me hear it. Money, it's Kanya Santi.
Speaker 1: The g is silent. Please don't buy it. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like pronouncing it correctly would ruin the bit though.
Speaker 1: That's that's the whole thing. By the way, is that
Speaker 1: Dan's bit? Is it? Like? Is there is there an
Speaker 1: over under? Is there like an around the NFL reddit
Speaker 1: that sets the over under on how many mispronunciations Dan
Speaker 1: will have in a given pod and then they all
Speaker 1: bet and then at the end of it they settle up.
Speaker 1: Because that's kind of what I try to figure out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know he's intentionally mispronouncing some of these things.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how many everything I'm saying is correct.
Speaker 1: First of all, including cognis empty. Okay, so it's your opinion.
Speaker 1: In doesn't mean it's the correct one money, that's all, okay.
Speaker 1: I guess that's one way to put it. I don't
Speaker 1: really I don't really ever try. I mean, I believe
Speaker 1: it's the proper Italian pronunciation. But that's all right, proper
Speaker 1: Italian pronunciation. What is your Italian heritage? Uh? Your sono studiato? Hello?
Speaker 1: See I stand down, I'll never be invited back again.
Speaker 1: Movement anyway over unders for rookies because yes, as I said,
Speaker 1: a kind of anti they say that everyone had a
Speaker 1: perfect draft except for the Raiders. Okay, but the reality
Speaker 1: is all these big time rookies that came to the league,
Speaker 1: some are going to have a big impact in year one,
Speaker 1: some are gonna disappoint, and uh so we'll throw out
Speaker 1: some names, um, notable names and kind of try to
Speaker 1: figure out where they might come in in their first
Speaker 1: season of pro ball. Before we do that, though, let
Speaker 1: us hit the news. You're gonna hie, my friend. No,
Speaker 1: that was not Delta Burke from Designing Women. That was
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning imploring a team to higher out and Gates.
Speaker 1: Delta Burke. I found her very annoying. Even as a child.
Speaker 1: I could tell that she was not my cup of tea. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: wherever you are, Delta, Um, I hope everything's going well.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it starting Delta. Oh no,
Speaker 1: we're playing this game, hang on. Well, total respect to her,
Speaker 1: I just found her to be a little bit a
Speaker 1: little bit too much still with us sixty four years old. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Delta didn't marry and married to Major Payne. Was that
Speaker 1: the name of the sitcom? Major Dad? Carol McCraney. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to it. Let's focus up here.
Speaker 1: Important Eric Fisher, former Chiefs tackle, former number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: He's got a new team. It's the Colts who signed
Speaker 1: Fisher to a one year, nine point four million dollar contract.
Speaker 1: He started a hundred and thirteen of a hundred and
Speaker 1: seventeen games with Kansas City after coming into the league
Speaker 1: number one overall. Um. Maybe money is not lived up
Speaker 1: to the standing of where his draft status was, but
Speaker 1: he became a solid starter for the Chiefs last year,
Speaker 1: injuries played a major factor, and now the Colts get
Speaker 1: a much needed option there on their line in front
Speaker 1: of Carson Once. Yeah. You know, we saw him twice
Speaker 1: a year. Um. We the Charger saw him twice a
Speaker 1: year at those games that I called um And I
Speaker 1: always just thought that he was pretty average. But I
Speaker 1: think it just goes to show you that average can
Speaker 1: go a long way in the NFL. You know. Now,
Speaker 1: my understanding is he's probably not going to be ready
Speaker 1: till October, so the Colts will probably need some sort
Speaker 1: of answer between now and then. Um or I should
Speaker 1: say from the start of the season until then. But look,
Speaker 1: if you have a cap space and you're willing to
Speaker 1: spend the money, I think you're gonna see, you know,
Speaker 1: a deal that probably Charles Lennel is going to get
Speaker 1: a deal like that. I mean, these are these are
Speaker 1: good left tackles, right, you know that's and that is
Speaker 1: hard to find, don't don't the Chargers know it. What
Speaker 1: I've been looking at it left tackle for four years.
Speaker 1: So if you can get Carson Wentz a league average
Speaker 1: or close to a league average left tackle, uh, and
Speaker 1: it's only gonna cost you a one year deal, I
Speaker 1: would say, huge win for Chris Ballad and the Colts. Right.
Speaker 1: And he's been better than league average for much of
Speaker 1: his career, including recent he seemed to get better, but
Speaker 1: he's coming off a torn achilles, might not be ready
Speaker 1: till October. And then it's Eric Fisher coming off a
Speaker 1: torn achilles. It's it's my number one concerned with this
Speaker 1: Colts team. It's in with Carson Wentz in general is
Speaker 1: he just holds the ball forever, doesn't make a decision.
Speaker 1: That's why Frank Break's you know, there to to get
Speaker 1: him making faster decisions, but for the first month or two,
Speaker 1: it's a bit We've talked about how that's a bad
Speaker 1: lucky division and Eric Fisher in theory helps you for
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they might be struggling for a while.
Speaker 1: I mean that was if you look at teams that
Speaker 1: didn't do what you thought they would do in the draft,
Speaker 1: like the Cults not targeting a young tackle was one
Speaker 1: of the kind of burning voids still sitting out there.
Speaker 1: But I do find it funny that we're also the
Speaker 1: off season goes through these waves where we're now in
Speaker 1: a wave where we're not allowed to critique Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: I find that. I just it seems after last year
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what, actually Carson Wentz is, Like
Speaker 1: are we are we kind of being a little too
Speaker 1: tough on him? Like, yeah, who said that other than
Speaker 1: Dan No. I mean it's maybe it, Maybe it is.
Speaker 1: It's just come up on our show where I feel
Speaker 1: like it's not really I'm not really pointing the finger
Speaker 1: at one person. It's more just like the off season
Speaker 1: does this all the time, where it's like we're not
Speaker 1: excited about the Carson Wentz signing. Now it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know he was really good in two thousand and seventeen.
Speaker 1: I mean I was good in two thousand seventeen. So
Speaker 1: I just I, you know, a lot has changed. So
Speaker 1: Carson went nineteen mark all right left by by the way,
Speaker 1: And I think it's I think I think a group
Speaker 1: think is a very dangerous thing, especially what we do
Speaker 1: for a living. If everyone just says, oh, Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: thinks now, I believe it's important to at least leave
Speaker 1: the option open that this fresh start with a coach
Speaker 1: that knows how to get the most out of him
Speaker 1: for a twenty eight year old quarterback, it could actually
Speaker 1: go well. I don't think that's absurd to say that
Speaker 1: there are multiple ways this wins. I just think the
Speaker 1: group think is now going to go in that direction.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's not like, you know, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see these things get on my radar because it
Speaker 1: happens every July. I feel like I feel like the
Speaker 1: football world doesn't not wins. Fans and you hear a
Speaker 1: lot of things about maybe he's not the best guy
Speaker 1: in the locker room. There is plenty of reasons for
Speaker 1: suspicion that this isn't gonna work out. I certainly grant
Speaker 1: you that, I'm with you, and and there's there's a
Speaker 1: decent chance, by the way, like Eric Fisher is much
Speaker 1: better than half of these rookie tackles that people signed
Speaker 1: and are all excited about. Like the Bears are putting
Speaker 1: Tavin Jenkins into their left tackle spot and everyone's like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's of then we cut Charles Leno. It's like,
Speaker 1: what are the chances he's better than Charles Leno this year?
Speaker 1: It's like maybe I would say maybe like that he's not.
Speaker 1: I thought Leno was a pretty good tackle. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm again he's in Washington today visiting. Yeah, I think um.
Speaker 1: And obviously, look it's all relative, right, I mean, I
Speaker 1: spent the last year watching the worst offensive line in
Speaker 1: the league, and it all comes back to the quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: you know, justin Herbert yards and thirty one touchdowns behind
Speaker 1: the worst offensive line in the league. He was the
Speaker 1: most pressured quarterback in the league, yet he was able
Speaker 1: to put up better numbers than most quarterbacks. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: was that Tampa offensive line that good, like exceptional before
Speaker 1: Tom Brady showed up? You know what I mean? It's
Speaker 1: so much of it is dependent upon the quarterback. So
Speaker 1: I think for everybody that's saying, oh, once you fix
Speaker 1: the offensive line, you're hey, struggles are over, dude, No
Speaker 1: that's not the case. I mean, you just gotta have
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can pull that trigger and run that offense.
Speaker 1: And that's gonna go a long way into mean whether
Speaker 1: or not your old line is good or not. Speaking
Speaker 1: of QB drama, the Vikings, we know they took kelen
Speaker 1: Mond Texas a and m um quarterback with the sixty
Speaker 1: six overall pick. You know, when you take a mid
Speaker 1: round quarterback, it doesn't scream QB controversy on the way
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins and Trench there. However, ESPN's Courtney Cronin
Speaker 1: reported that the Vikings were ready to pull the trigger
Speaker 1: on Justin Fields had he fallen to the fourteenth pick
Speaker 1: in the draft. He did not fall because we know
Speaker 1: the Bears traded up three picks ahead of them to
Speaker 1: take Fields, and then the Vikings pivoted traded out of
Speaker 1: fourteen with the Jets to collect some mid round picks themselves.
Speaker 1: Um So, if this reporting is accurate, Greg, this is
Speaker 1: spacey because now it's it's becoming clear now that the
Speaker 1: Vikings have one eye on one with Kirk Cousins and
Speaker 1: very clearly now and I on on the future with
Speaker 1: the quarter acquisition that might not include Cousins at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yet they guarantee the money next year, which makes
Speaker 1: it complicated. I love stuff like this, just the doors
Speaker 1: not taken. They always bring up the Saints, how they
Speaker 1: were gonna take Patrick Mahomes if the Chiefs didn't trade
Speaker 1: up in front of them. That that's been pretty confirmed.
Speaker 1: And then in this draft, in the NFC North alone,
Speaker 1: the Lions passed on Fields. The Vikings were set to
Speaker 1: take Fields, but they weren't gonna trade up for him,
Speaker 1: and the Bears are the one that gets it, So like,
Speaker 1: how does that change this division? That and the fact
Speaker 1: that it's been reported and it's hard to confirm these things,
Speaker 1: that the Jets traded up in front of Patriots, the
Speaker 1: Patriots because they were pretty confident the Patriots were gonna
Speaker 1: take Elijah Vera Tucker, which is just it's just crazy
Speaker 1: to think that the Patriots, like quarterback of the future
Speaker 1: would not been there because they preferred to take a
Speaker 1: guard possible tackle and Vera Tucker and those are division rivals,
Speaker 1: So like, how does the mac Jones Jets Patriots thing
Speaker 1: work out? And how does this justin fields thing work out?
Speaker 1: And yeah, well and and where you know where Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers quickly shifts into drama magnet mode. You don't hear
Speaker 1: a word from Kirk Cousins because he'll happily, um be
Speaker 1: a good little boy through next season, do whatever they
Speaker 1: ask and make a huge amount of guaranteed money, not
Speaker 1: just this year but next year. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: in terms of Mond and whether or not he's a viable,
Speaker 1: you know, replacement for the future. Who knows. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of third round starters in the league,
Speaker 1: right we kind of know because their tales are sung
Speaker 1: so often when it does happen, so we know, you know,
Speaker 1: the rarity of which that to be the case. But
Speaker 1: I also know, you know, like getting a getting a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, a viable backup quarterback and one of the
Speaker 1: middle or you know, towards I should say, one of
Speaker 1: the middle rounds. You almost never get him in the
Speaker 1: late rounds. Um that that's important for teams. The last
Speaker 1: thing they want to do is sacrifice cash or salary
Speaker 1: cap capital on a backup veteran if they don't have to,
Speaker 1: if they you know, like I know again I keep
Speaker 1: I hate doing it, but I just get to see
Speaker 1: it so much. But like in the case of Easton Stick,
Speaker 1: I think they would have been fine had Chase Daniel
Speaker 1: not just been so affordable. They were like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a good guy for the room, and but
Speaker 1: we feel like Easton Stick and can come in and
Speaker 1: win a half or maybe win a game and a
Speaker 1: half and at sixty grand instead of you know, seven
Speaker 1: million bucks. That's a big win for a lot of franchises.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if that's kind of more
Speaker 1: the thinking of the Vikings as opposed to we need
Speaker 1: to bring someone to replace, you know, Kirk Cousins. The
Speaker 1: most important person in your organization is your quarterback, and
Speaker 1: then the second most important person in your organization is
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback. And any of those Cowboys seasons when
Speaker 1: totally we all enjoy it. Here's what you gotta do
Speaker 1: here all right now, Greg is doing his impression. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: so when that happens, what I need you to do
Speaker 1: now is you'd be quiet. Okay, that's first of all,
Speaker 1: and after that, what you're gonna do is Greg's gonna
Speaker 1: do his impression and then Dan is gonna come in
Speaker 1: and he's gonna say, hey, Greg is doing an impression
Speaker 1: of me. And then when he's done it out, then
Speaker 1: you can go, I'll be back in about eleven minutes.
Speaker 1: That's sorry, Mark, you had what we were saying there,
Speaker 1: but I just, I mean, I remember West and I
Speaker 1: like joining at the hip, Joined at the hip, killing
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for never having a backup in place that
Speaker 1: really could win games behind Tony Romo. And they were
Speaker 1: good teams that went totally south. So you know, it's
Speaker 1: it can't be just about the low amount of earnings
Speaker 1: that they're making. And you have the right now that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't happen right now after what they just
Speaker 1: went through. They have Jeff Driscoll visiting on Monday, and
Speaker 1: he would be easily their best backup, which is terrible.
Speaker 1: In other news, the Broncos, they are obviously in the
Speaker 1: news right now connected to Aaron Rodgers with all the
Speaker 1: Rogers drama. James Palmer NFL Network Zone reported today the
Speaker 1: Broncos have had plenty of internal discussions about the possibility
Speaker 1: of making that happen. But for for the here and now,
Speaker 1: it's Drew Lock and Greg's boy Teddy Bridgewater and they
Speaker 1: need an offensive line in front of whoever the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: They won't have Juwan James. It looks like whose Star
Speaker 1: Cross career took another bad turn. Last Tuesday, team sources
Speaker 1: confirmed that James sufford a torn achilles tendon and to
Speaker 1: workout away from the Broncos facility. Um, it's there's some
Speaker 1: talk whether season ending or not, We're not clear, but
Speaker 1: either way, it's a very serious injury. He opted out
Speaker 1: of last season, he was injured before that. Since signing
Speaker 1: a four year, fifty one million dollar deal in March
Speaker 1: of nineteen, he's played sixty three snaps. Yikes. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I'll start. It's it's probably the worst free agent
Speaker 1: contract we've seen in years, right, I mean, sixty three snaps,
Speaker 1: fifty million, twenty something guaranteed. It'll be interesting, Um, how
Speaker 1: the Broncos opt to play this? And I think so
Speaker 1: much of this, you know, as I think fans tend
Speaker 1: to focus on the player and or they'll focus on
Speaker 1: the team, and rarely do they focus on the agent.
Speaker 1: And and to me, this is a great disservice done
Speaker 1: to the player by the players agent. I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not privy to those conversations. Um, but I do think
Speaker 1: in the case of some of these players, guys opted
Speaker 1: out uh. Um. You know, maybe in some cases for
Speaker 1: health concerns, but I think in other cases for registering
Speaker 1: a year on that deal in which they were gonna
Speaker 1: be four games played or six games played, and and
Speaker 1: that could be someone that has dissuaded. Hey, look, we
Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna get the whole season in. That's
Speaker 1: gonna roll over. So let's sit this one out and
Speaker 1: then next year you can make your twelve million bucks
Speaker 1: because we're probably gonna get all seven, sixteen, now seventeen in. Um.
Speaker 1: If that was the case, my goodness. You know what
Speaker 1: a bad situation Juwan James has been put into. And
Speaker 1: I guess my understanding is he was working out at
Speaker 1: the facility. Um. That's why I think it's so interesting
Speaker 1: with how the Broncos are going to treat this right.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing if he's like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm one of these veterans. I'm gonna heed the call
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady and stay away and stand united. Uh,
Speaker 1: not come in at all, then you get hurt. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos go, uh, we're done.
Speaker 1: You're not getting a cent. We don't know any of
Speaker 1: that money you were hurt off premises or because he
Speaker 1: has been coming in occasionally. If they will honor that contract,
Speaker 1: it's gonna I think it's gonna be spicy. M I mean,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll face like a legal battle right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk the Broncos may not give
Speaker 1: him his money. We'll see. I've sort of don't want
Speaker 1: to like kill him before they go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they just do give it
Speaker 1: to him. And this Tom Brady like trying to keep
Speaker 1: everyone out of the offseason workouts, we'll see how that works.
Speaker 1: Like it didn't work at all for the first three
Speaker 1: rookie mini games, none of them listened. All the rookie
Speaker 1: showed up for the first three or four teams. So
Speaker 1: at least the rookies are not listening to this veteran
Speaker 1: idea to not show up at the facility, right or
Speaker 1: players that you know need to impress the coaching staff
Speaker 1: versus um site unseen sitting home or operating else where.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want one little note to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I mean, this was PFFS twenty five ranked offensive line
Speaker 1: a year ago, and you know Juan James wasn't there,
Speaker 1: But they don't project to look a whole lot better
Speaker 1: this season. Um, they're talking to Dennis Kelly apparently to
Speaker 1: maybe come in and fill, you know, help out at tackle.
Speaker 1: What if I took the Juwan James approach to this podcast,
Speaker 1: OpEd it out of an entire season last year, Um,
Speaker 1: leaving you guys to do all the work, and then
Speaker 1: you know it got sort of a maybe a call
Speaker 1: for cold and said I'm not coming back this year.
Speaker 1: And then everyone's like, will NFL dot com pay mark
Speaker 1: his you know, meager salary or not high drama, not
Speaker 1: on the website. I think I think that would make
Speaker 1: football Morning in America speaking of and actually know what
Speaker 1: can I can I jump back into of that real
Speaker 1: quickly and something that Greg said I think is important. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, and and look, we all we're all subjected
Speaker 1: to to hero worship at times and we have to
Speaker 1: abide by it because of what these players mean to
Speaker 1: the league. But you know, I just to me, it's
Speaker 1: so irresponsible. With Tom Brady, I'd like to to run
Speaker 1: that call and to be that emphatic about how you
Speaker 1: I don't think people know kind of how how much
Speaker 1: these guys make, you know what I mean, like that
Speaker 1: you're talking about players, you know fifty four through ninety
Speaker 1: that if they show up at these voluntary workouts, everything's
Speaker 1: taken care of, all of their meals, all of their training.
Speaker 1: They get a per diem, you know, they so like
Speaker 1: people don't realize they get paid per day that they
Speaker 1: show up. So either they're working out on their own
Speaker 1: because like Greg said, they're trying to make the team.
Speaker 1: They're on the you know they may or may not
Speaker 1: make the team. Well, if you do it at the facility,
Speaker 1: you're making like three hundred bucks a day. So if
Speaker 1: you're someone that's a fringe potential NFL player or practice
Speaker 1: squad player and you're trying to make that practice squad, um,
Speaker 1: if you don't go in, you're losing about a grand
Speaker 1: a week to fifteen hundred bucks a week that you're
Speaker 1: putting in your pocket for just showing up at the
Speaker 1: facility and work. Not not to mention everything's paid for
Speaker 1: when you go yeah, and that's just the financial side.
Speaker 1: These guys are they're chasing the dream. You know, they
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to be in this building of this
Speaker 1: professional team. Uh, turn some heads and make relationships. I
Speaker 1: am totally with you. Brady exists and a whole he's
Speaker 1: a he's a two per center within this NFL world
Speaker 1: and he can't just speak for everyone. But is there
Speaker 1: a point from another angle on that I totally agree
Speaker 1: with you with that if there are, if they're gonna
Speaker 1: stage it, those marginal players need to be there for
Speaker 1: everything that you mentioned. But wasn't Brady's point a little
Speaker 1: bit that he's sort of saying, you don't have baseball
Speaker 1: players throwing ninety mile an hour fastballs like in you know,
Speaker 1: the middle of winter when the baseball is not happening,
Speaker 1: that maybe it's a tone down to some degree of
Speaker 1: the structure of the off season that they're not doing that.
Speaker 1: And these you know, they come before the c B
Speaker 1: A like, why are we're right? You know you're right, Mark,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know again, they show up, they
Speaker 1: watch film, they work out, they do breakout meetings, they
Speaker 1: go on the field in shorts. They're almost never even
Speaker 1: in shells in these and they're doing walkthroughs and then
Speaker 1: maybe they're doing a little bit of of work. But
Speaker 1: like the idea that Brady would drop that nugget to
Speaker 1: the public that these guys are doing what's the equivalent
Speaker 1: of a picture throwing an our fastball for seventy pitches
Speaker 1: on a day in January. That's just irresponsible. That's that's there.
Speaker 1: There's that's not what That's not what they're doing in
Speaker 1: these you know, O T A s and these camps.
Speaker 1: That's just not what's happening. John always looking at this
Speaker 1: and like, we don't have to pay some of the money.
Speaker 1: I like Burnt trying to fix this offensive line for
Speaker 1: six years. Great, no one's like, no one's paying attention
Speaker 1: to that anymore. Like that was the biggest sinkhole in
Speaker 1: the NFL. They're offensive one the Speaking of Football Morning
Speaker 1: in America, Brandon being the bid Bills general manager, spoke
Speaker 1: with Peter King and there is a report that the
Speaker 1: league is primed to set a threshold vaccination rate amongst
Speaker 1: players for teams to conduct traditional meetings and practices, in
Speaker 1: which is obviously an advantage to be able to prepare
Speaker 1: for a new season at that level and being told
Speaker 1: King that it would be an advantage uh to hold
Speaker 1: those meetings and have those practices, and it might make
Speaker 1: a roster decision easier for him based on who is
Speaker 1: vaccinated and who is not vaccinated. And Marcus opens up
Speaker 1: a whole can of worms. Obviously, a national discourse about
Speaker 1: vaccinations and who has to get one, who must get one,
Speaker 1: who gets the choice. All that that is going to
Speaker 1: connect to the NFL, I think in a big way
Speaker 1: this summer. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: a huge hot take on this. I think from one angle,
Speaker 1: being is talking about, like any general manager or executive
Speaker 1: inside the building on the football side of operations, competitive advantage.
Speaker 1: You don't want to lose the chance to gather um
Speaker 1: if you can. But you know, this is a personal choice.
Speaker 1: Is even sticks out to me as an interesting number
Speaker 1: because what are the other fifteen percent doing on that front? Again,
Speaker 1: I don't have a hot take on it. I'm getting
Speaker 1: vaccinated and I'm not telling anyone else to do um
Speaker 1: anything but um. The other fifteen percent seemed to be
Speaker 1: a talking point inside a locker room to begin with, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon been was was kind of asked about
Speaker 1: this followed up from Peter King because he already said,
Speaker 1: like I've cut a guy, you know, he said the
Speaker 1: quiet part. He said, the part like, of course they
Speaker 1: would cut a guy if if like things are close
Speaker 1: between two guys towards the end of the roster and
Speaker 1: you're you're trying to keep everyone safe, that's going to
Speaker 1: be a factor. Most other gms probably would just, you know,
Speaker 1: quietly do it. And it's only gonna be for guys
Speaker 1: who are kind of marginal anyways. Stars aren't gonna be
Speaker 1: cut based on their medical uh preferences with the vaccine.
Speaker 1: They're they're not cutting Tom Brady about this, and he
Speaker 1: said the quiet part out loud. But it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like it's just like last off season where
Speaker 1: we said the world is coming to the NFL that
Speaker 1: like everything that words struggling with in our work lives
Speaker 1: and everything is going to affect the NFL two and
Speaker 1: this is this is a good example of that. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, our country, you know, it's gonna have so
Speaker 1: many people that don't want the vaccine, and the rest
Speaker 1: of the world's kind of looking at like, what the
Speaker 1: hell is wrong with you? You guys are smart enough
Speaker 1: to have all the vaccines, like why why aren't you
Speaker 1: taking them? And there's gonna be there's gonna end up
Speaker 1: being repercussions, whether they like say it out loud or not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to me, uh, I'm with you, Greg, it's a non story.
Speaker 1: I think it's obvious. And you know you're the the
Speaker 1: anti actors can can have their way with you know,
Speaker 1: however you want, but whatever, it's a business. You know,
Speaker 1: if if you feel like this is the best way
Speaker 1: to operate your business because you want to have eighty
Speaker 1: five or vaccine and your facility and do it. You
Speaker 1: don't like it, don't work for him, you know, go
Speaker 1: go work for someone else. Go work for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: Go work for the Ravens or whoever else will bring
Speaker 1: you in. If the bills aren't willing to employ you,
Speaker 1: and if none of them are, whatever, go work somewhere else.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's people. People mistake rights for privilege.
Speaker 1: You know, these are independent, privately owned businesses, and then
Speaker 1: that's that's the reality to me. I know it's not popular. Um,
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't get I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: don't want to put words in your mouth to try
Speaker 1: to put you on the anti anti vax or position.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take some sort of political stance,
Speaker 1: But to me, I think it's just a guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: but and there's also there's different forms of privilege, like
Speaker 1: Lebron according to Dennis Shrewder and some you know German
Speaker 1: interview like him in Bron were the only two guys
Speaker 1: that haven't been vaccinated on the Lakers and intruders out
Speaker 1: now after um, you know, getting the disease. Like that's
Speaker 1: the privilege of being Lebron. Like if if you're a
Speaker 1: if you're a starter making a ton ofment, you might
Speaker 1: have the privilege to have a decision. But if you're
Speaker 1: it's kind of like like guys who get arrested and
Speaker 1: stuff like, you don't have the Like those guys end
Speaker 1: up losing their jobs if you run a foul the law.
Speaker 1: And this is this is similar. Do we know if
Speaker 1: Tom Brady um accepted the vaccine because he seemed to
Speaker 1: um issue the concept of wearing a mask the entire
Speaker 1: season and he's out there whipping the ball around in
Speaker 1: a park. You know, whenevere else connect you gotta bring
Speaker 1: up old desk mark huh fuenty of doubts that connect
Speaker 1: on Tom Brady if you, if you care to in
Speaker 1: those realms all right, in other news mark, who is
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow? Mm hmm, well he's many people. Um. He
Speaker 1: affected our lives when he did the football version of
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow with a multitude of teams about ten years ago,
Speaker 1: and Dan and I were charged with I am not exaggerating. Um,
Speaker 1: there was a stretch of time where Dan and I
Speaker 1: were literally charged with writing ten plus Tim Tebow articles
Speaker 1: a week. Mine um involved him dating or wanting to
Speaker 1: be dated by Kardashian various Kardashian sisters. There was a
Speaker 1: Katie Perry spread in there, um, something to do with
Speaker 1: someone else. And Dan and I would tell you how
Speaker 1: many Tebow articles we did each week, and whoever wrote
Speaker 1: more would get the first round of beers for free
Speaker 1: at the uh the old tavern up the street. The
Speaker 1: breaking the breaking point for me was ye and while
Speaker 1: the brain point was he ended up on my beam
Speaker 1: and it was a horrible situation. Uh so that was bad.
Speaker 1: But the break point for me is a professional NFL
Speaker 1: media was having to work one Easter morning and I'm
Speaker 1: in the newsroom and I'm you know, I got my
Speaker 1: eye out, What's what's going on the league? It's quiet day,
Speaker 1: It's Easter Sunday. And then a furious shadowy league figure
Speaker 1: calls ready to fire my ass because I had yet
Speaker 1: to write a poe about Tim Tebow speaking at some
Speaker 1: Christian gathering in front of fifty thousand people or something.
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jeremiah's dad was involved. Was his thing,
Speaker 1: It's like, and there was a fury that I had
Speaker 1: yet to write a story about this church event, which
Speaker 1: I guess. I was like, oh, I guess I blew
Speaker 1: that one. Uh, And I was like, this is horrible,
Speaker 1: and I don't want this to happen anymore in my life.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Tim Tebow landing spots was the
Speaker 1: first article I ever wrote at at NFL dot com.
Speaker 1: He was getting replaced by who was he getting replaced? Man?
Speaker 1: You should remember this Peyton Manning. Of course, right after
Speaker 1: free agency. It was like that, the reaction to Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning signing there I give I give John Elway credit
Speaker 1: for this, and everybody listened to the show knows I
Speaker 1: could be critical towards John uh and his handling of
Speaker 1: the Broncos, especially in the last five years or so.
Speaker 1: But at the height of Tebow Mania and that two
Speaker 1: thousand I guess it was eleven season when everyone was
Speaker 1: going crazy and he was having those fild finishes to
Speaker 1: the game, and then of course the playoff win over
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and all that mania with the ninety yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: Elway never bought in even in the press conferences. He
Speaker 1: never gave the people what they wanted, which was for
Speaker 1: him to say, he's our future, He's our team. Lay
Speaker 1: always knew. I wonder what happened to that guy. I have.
Speaker 1: I have three nuggets on Tebow that I'll share. UM.
Speaker 1: One is and I don't know if these are incredible.
Speaker 1: I think they're in chronological order. UM. I was calling
Speaker 1: before I got the Charger's gig. I used to just call,
Speaker 1: you know, game of the week, UM on the radio,
Speaker 1: so I would be in whatever NFL talent calling a game.
Speaker 1: I was doing a Packers Broncos game, and I was
Speaker 1: on the field at Lambeau and I was watching Tim
Speaker 1: Tebow warm up. And I have never seen in all
Speaker 1: my years of calling football, college or professional, such a
Speaker 1: poor throwing warm up like I was in disbelief how
Speaker 1: badly he was missing receiver, like it really was. It
Speaker 1: was like beyond comprehend that, like, wait, this is an
Speaker 1: NFL and you're watching the receivers just kind of getting
Speaker 1: all pissy as they're running their routes. Um, that's one too.
Speaker 1: I called the Broncos Bears game that Caleb Haney started
Speaker 1: for the Bears, in which the Broncos one in overtime.
Speaker 1: I had to catch a flight out of Denver that night.
Speaker 1: I think it might have been Tebow's first start, um
Speaker 1: or it was it was an early Tebow moment, whatever
Speaker 1: the case. Before I called NFL games, I used to
Speaker 1: call college football games, so I had been in some
Speaker 1: of these massive like I've called Tennessee Alabama. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm talking giant, ninety thousand sec fans freaking out, pouring
Speaker 1: out of the stadium, celebrating in the streets for hours
Speaker 1: on end. That went over the Bears is the closest
Speaker 1: thing I have ever experienced in the NFL to a
Speaker 1: college atmosphere. If you've ever been a mile high, you
Speaker 1: you leave the stadium and if you go up on
Speaker 1: the hill, it's the strip of bars. This st You
Speaker 1: couldn't move a car. I couldn't get to my flat.
Speaker 1: I had to spend the night in Denver. I could
Speaker 1: not get out because people had just foured into the
Speaker 1: streets to celebrate this regular season win over the Caleb
Speaker 1: Haney lead Bears authored by Tom Tim Tebow. And then
Speaker 1: my third nugget is, of course he played second fiddle
Speaker 1: to me on the successful single season network show Million
Speaker 1: Dollar Mile on CBS that I forgot about that. So
Speaker 1: you people and I were tight. You guys worked together,
Speaker 1: work together. We'd spend eighteen hours a day together on
Speaker 1: set for about three weeks straight. Could not could not
Speaker 1: be and I don't know if I've ever met like he's.
Speaker 1: He's as nice a person as you've ever been around
Speaker 1: in your life. Um, as you know, could not could
Speaker 1: not be more happy that I was able to spend
Speaker 1: those three weeks with that pleasant young man. Do you
Speaker 1: still like text once in a while about various items
Speaker 1: in your phone? I have, he's in my phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do not text him though. Did you tell him
Speaker 1: that he had the worst pregame warm up you've ever
Speaker 1: seen out of a corvette? You know, what's money, believe
Speaker 1: it or not. I don't know if I said it exactly, UM,
Speaker 1: but I kind of alluded to it. He's got like
Speaker 1: this great self deprecating sense of humor, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: like he was he totally I mentioned I had I
Speaker 1: think I think I had mentioned something to that. You know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't that abrasive. I just said, hey, I called
Speaker 1: that that Bronco Packer game. I was watching your warm up.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, so I think I kind of I
Speaker 1: took a circuitous route to get to that point. And
Speaker 1: it was a very gentle point I made anyway. Like
Speaker 1: with all that said, and you know, I do want
Speaker 1: to I I feel like it's a whole episode just talking
Speaker 1: to Money about his Tebow experience. But Tebow is back
Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is pretty nuts to me. He's
Speaker 1: thirty three years old now. Um, he just spent the
Speaker 1: last four or five years in the organization of the
Speaker 1: New York Mets in Major League Baseball trying to make
Speaker 1: it as a pro. And he hacked it down in
Speaker 1: the minors and went through the grind of the minor
Speaker 1: league season, which is not um glamorous on any level.
Speaker 1: And this is a lionaire athlete. Um didn't work out,
Speaker 1: and now urban Meyer is bringing him to the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars where he's going to get a chance, uh to
Speaker 1: try out as a tight end. Now, Mark the quarterback
Speaker 1: dream is dead. Ken Tim Tebow make a team. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you their depth dar right now at tight
Speaker 1: end our Boy, Chris Man, Hurts, Luke Farrell, Farrell, Tyler Davis,
Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy, ben Ellefson all on the depth chart. Tebow
Speaker 1: does he have a shot? I mean he couldn't make
Speaker 1: it based on the fact that Urban Meyer UM seems
Speaker 1: to love him. And you know, to Money's point, people
Speaker 1: that you know, no Tin Tebow and away from some
Speaker 1: of the you know, media critique say the same thing.
Speaker 1: And and this is a young team UM with not
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, major veteran leadership. So I
Speaker 1: mean from that angle, I would say, yes, can he
Speaker 1: still play? Can he play tight end? I mean, he
Speaker 1: is an incredible athlete and he maybe maybe still has
Speaker 1: those skills. I mean I'd want to see him play
Speaker 1: before I can say yes or no. But from a
Speaker 1: person angle, I think they're not bringing him in UM
Speaker 1: without a real chance of him being on the roster.
Speaker 1: I think they're bringing him in like most thirty four
Speaker 1: year old veterans that get signed this time of year
Speaker 1: as a camp body, maybe a little bit of a
Speaker 1: favor in this case, and his chances of even being
Speaker 1: ahead of O'Shaughnessy for the fourth or fifth tight end
Speaker 1: spot are slim to none. There's very little reason to
Speaker 1: think he would be remotely athletic enough to play tight end.
Speaker 1: Like it's starting tebow to your organization, because you love
Speaker 1: the name alone creates the man. He's in shape, and
Speaker 1: it's like, what's the eighty six roster spot to Irban Meyer,
Speaker 1: Sure give him some, give him some time in in
Speaker 1: May through August and in the odds, you know, the
Speaker 1: overwhelming odds are then he say goodbye. Eight years ago
Speaker 1: I would have said, oh, this is also a needless
Speaker 1: distrus action in that building. But that's a t bamania.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's from another era. I don't think
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a story. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be a part of this camp with Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence in the building, but I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to take over the team the way it maybe would
Speaker 1: have once upon a time. Um to you know, to me,
Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of things. One, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if the Jags need publicity,
Speaker 1: and you know, in in Jacksonville, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure. I would assume after Trevor Lawrence, you've got
Speaker 1: everything you need right to try to stoke the fire
Speaker 1: and that fan base. I've struggled to cell tickets. Obviously
Speaker 1: Lawrence helps, but more more than most franchises. That's fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so to Mek, to me, that's you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's worth to me. It's more financial as opposed to football.
Speaker 1: The one thing I would say that I didn't add
Speaker 1: from you know, my I think I called two or
Speaker 1: three of his games. But it's like the Beatles, like,
Speaker 1: at least at that point it was. It was not
Speaker 1: that I was alive when the Beatles, when Beatlemania was
Speaker 1: taking over, but you see the film of it that's
Speaker 1: sort of looked like like when you came out of
Speaker 1: the tunnel. They had this group and I had never
Speaker 1: seen this for any other team before, but they had
Speaker 1: a group of what I would say was probably two
Speaker 1: to three hundred people that would come on the field
Speaker 1: and sit in this one particular area that we're just
Speaker 1: there for Tebow. They were not there to watch the
Speaker 1: Broncos warm up, they were not v I P. This
Speaker 1: was a Tebow centric group, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: you invite, right, you invite all these people that um.
Speaker 1: And again, financially it's great, but from a football standpoint,
Speaker 1: when you're warming up and you're trying to get ready
Speaker 1: to play, you know, this game that's tough enough as
Speaker 1: it is, and you've got two hundred people staying on
Speaker 1: the field that it paid for this premier experience with
Speaker 1: this individual that may or may not have a huge
Speaker 1: impact on the game. I think that's asking, you know,
Speaker 1: that's asking a little bit from the rest of your
Speaker 1: roster right to embrace tebow Mania going into a seat
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be there and it's gonna be at
Speaker 1: every spot. If you're listening fourth round pick Jordan's Smith,
Speaker 1: you're like, please give me a rep against Tebow and
Speaker 1: let me wipe the floor with it. Got this floor please? Um.
Speaker 1: And finally in the news, the NFL will release it's
Speaker 1: schedule on Wednesday, and you can check that out right
Speaker 1: here on NFL Network And were there, I should say,
Speaker 1: they're on NFL Network and ESPN two has it as well.
Speaker 1: Contractually obligated to mention that, Um, what do you guys,
Speaker 1: if you have the power to pick the opening game,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this one. Mark. If you
Speaker 1: have the power to choose, what is the Thursday night opener,
Speaker 1: what's the matchup you want to see? All right? So
Speaker 1: looking at all their home and a way opponents, so
Speaker 1: you gotta go. The problem is there away against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: So you're saying they Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: I mean, get the game obviously right otherwise, but they
Speaker 1: play in New England, so that is tedious because that
Speaker 1: wipes out what would easily be my number one pick.
Speaker 1: There's a very clear second for me. Don't give me
Speaker 1: Bucks Saints the first of all, that is highly annoying.
Speaker 1: UM give me Tampa Bay Buccaneers at home against the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Yep, I think that's the choice. Um, I agree,
Speaker 1: Saints Saints feels like it's almost as likely. I don't
Speaker 1: think they want to use They wouldn't do the Cowboys
Speaker 1: or the Giants. I don't think. If anything, because it's
Speaker 1: like the kickoff is gonna get great ratings. Anyways, Let's
Speaker 1: save that Cowboys game for another time. The Bills. The
Speaker 1: Bills are sort of the perfect the perfect compromise, the
Speaker 1: perfect marriage. They're the best team possible, and they're also, like,
Speaker 1: you know, a smaller market. It's a matchup you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be used to see, and it's beautiful. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the I just wonder if that's too early for that game, right,
Speaker 1: I mean a potential Super Bowl preview? You would think
Speaker 1: they'd want that maybe a little bit later. Um, I mean,
Speaker 1: like you said, they're gonna get ratings anyway. Right, it
Speaker 1: feels like it feels like it could be Saints with
Speaker 1: Jamis and everything, But that would that I'm with Mark,
Speaker 1: the Bills would think Jamis is like a big national
Speaker 1: selling point. I don't know, not at all. I will
Speaker 1: say this, and I know they they like to have
Speaker 1: it obviously in the building of the defending champions, So
Speaker 1: maybe this rows it out. But I will throw this
Speaker 1: one out because I know this is an important facility
Speaker 1: in our league and I know this is a big market.
Speaker 1: Was to check that box? What if Tampa Bay went
Speaker 1: to l A to play the Rams in the full
Speaker 1: House at Englewood, Matthew Stafford's first game I bow side
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, They kind of got robbed of
Speaker 1: opening that stadium the right way. In Beau of COVID.
Speaker 1: This would be a way to kind of sell the
Speaker 1: whole experience and what it means and a good game
Speaker 1: and a really good but the Bucks would totally revolt.
Speaker 1: What was the year? Was it the well, they just
Speaker 1: got the Super Bowl in their building, so you know,
Speaker 1: I know, remember when the Ravens had to after they
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl had to open what I think
Speaker 1: it was against the Broncos and I think Joe Flaccos
Speaker 1: like passes in this game, but they had open on
Speaker 1: the road if I'm not mistaken, because the Orioles were
Speaker 1: like at home on the same Peter Angelos, the owner
Speaker 1: of the Orioles, would not move a game. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it stuck it to the Ravens. It sounds like some
Speaker 1: like rich guy fighting that we were just trivy to
Speaker 1: plus there was like not that it's a reason to
Speaker 1: do it, but no player or team has ever owned
Speaker 1: another team over the course of the amount of time
Speaker 1: Brady was in in New England. As Brady and the
Speaker 1: Patriots did Buffalo like literally like statistically, no one beat
Speaker 1: up on one other franchise enough so it would be
Speaker 1: a nice little like we can get back at even
Speaker 1: at the end, even in Brady's last year, the Bills
Speaker 1: had a chance to win end and didn't come up.
Speaker 1: To me, it probably comes down to the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the Bills, right, I mean that's so I feel it
Speaker 1: gonna be the giants in the Bills. I feel like
Speaker 1: they don't like to use their best things their Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cowboys makes a lot of that. If I if I
Speaker 1: were a betting man, which I am not, especially in
Speaker 1: matters related to professional football. Cowboys at Bucks. That brings
Speaker 1: the ratings in a biting reaction show. By the way,
Speaker 1: we're doing a Wednesday night show. We're changing our schedule
Speaker 1: this week. We're so big on the schedule release this year.
Speaker 1: We love it. They rolled out Viking Saints as an opener,
Speaker 1: you know, following that NFC title games. So they don't
Speaker 1: they don't always save you know, the best matchup right.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. All right, So we're
Speaker 1: caught up on the news. Now, let's get caught up
Speaker 1: on you know, where are these rookies, these high profile rookies.
Speaker 1: How are they going to come out of their rookie seasons.
Speaker 1: It's kind of silly obviously, because you can't really know
Speaker 1: how these guys are gonna play. Look at look at
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you just studied Money for an entire
Speaker 1: season is the voice of the Chargers. Nobody thought Herbert
Speaker 1: was gonna do what he did, so that's that's part
Speaker 1: of the fun. Jeremiah ranked them below Ross Blacklock, uh
Speaker 1: Texans defensive tackle. You know the hits? You know that
Speaker 1: that is that is wonder Wall by Oasis. Every time
Speaker 1: I see like a nugget about Blacklock, I'm just like, well,
Speaker 1: DJ had him nineteen Herbert, you know, I'd like to
Speaker 1: play the thing like, oh, I like feuding with people
Speaker 1: because I don't take it seriously. But then you see
Speaker 1: the stuff where he always brings up DJ and how
Speaker 1: he missed on Darnald and how he's bringing up that
Speaker 1: justin Herbert thing constantly. This is your way of seriously
Speaker 1: sticking it back to DJ for his little fun social media.
Speaker 1: Very spiteful. I mean, I I just would think it'd
Speaker 1: be awkward that he has to now work with Herbert
Speaker 1: for the next decade like this amazing quarterback. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you were like as good as like a backup,
Speaker 1: you know, defensive or every every show, or he thought
Speaker 1: he was the twentieth best player in the draft, which
Speaker 1: I would say is quite a compliment, right for someone
Speaker 1: that that was operating in a run first offense and
Speaker 1: a head coach that was terrified to have his quarterback
Speaker 1: take chances. Well, he's like Tom Talsco didn't see him
Speaker 1: as a top twenty the twentieth best play there, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. Ain't that the truth? So let's since we're
Speaker 1: talking quarterbacks, let's start with pick one, pick one of
Speaker 1: one of two fifty nine, Trevor Lawrence. Really interesting to
Speaker 1: imagine where the Jaguars end up this season if they
Speaker 1: get legit quarterback play, which is in line here potentially.
Speaker 1: So let me throw this out as a rookie season
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence, and you guys tell me over under,
Speaker 1: is this in the ballpark in your mind? Or is
Speaker 1: this way out of line? First of all, he's starting,
Speaker 1: let's say, I'll say, uh, you know, sixteen seventeen games,
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half games, all right, a half touchdowns,
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half interceptions, yards passer rating? Am I crazy?
Speaker 1: Is this too optimistic? Or are we should we look
Speaker 1: at him as emerging as something close to his star.
Speaker 1: Something Herbert asked right out of the game, I'm going
Speaker 1: under with those numbers, I mean expecting, and those are
Speaker 1: similar but a little lower than what Herbert did last year.
Speaker 1: That that's a lot to ask. I mean, even even
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, who was playing pretty well last year, wasn't
Speaker 1: going to get to those sort of numbers. And I
Speaker 1: still have questions about how this surban Meyer thing goes
Speaker 1: and the talent around him in Jacksonville. It's not like
Speaker 1: they're loaded there. I don't think Lawrence is landing in
Speaker 1: an amazing situation. I think he's landing in a pretty
Speaker 1: typical situation for a number one pick. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, Baker Mayfield started fewer games through twenty seven touchdowns,
Speaker 1: had fourteen interceptions in thirty seven hundred yards. So if
Speaker 1: you're giving an extra game, you know, sixteen and a
Speaker 1: half starts you can get. You gave him to Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: I think you're in the ballpark. And I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: a problem with over With the way that the NFL
Speaker 1: operates offenses right now, yeah, I think i'd lean under. Um.
Speaker 1: I just you know, I feel like Herbert's season was
Speaker 1: such an outlier, you know, in terms of just those
Speaker 1: those numbers, we don't see him, you know, and I
Speaker 1: think in terms of urban he's such a you know,
Speaker 1: he is such a maniac for for winning, and I
Speaker 1: could see him trying to minimize mistakes that are inevitably
Speaker 1: going to come with rookie quarterback, no matter how good
Speaker 1: a prospect they are, because you know, we saw that
Speaker 1: in a lot of those Charger games. You know, as
Speaker 1: great as Herbert was, late game situations tended to get
Speaker 1: away from him a little bit. A lot of that
Speaker 1: could be because the defense wasn't playing well and maybe
Speaker 1: he felt like he had to do too much. But
Speaker 1: they don't have a good defense in Jacksonville. I don't
Speaker 1: think they have a great offensive line in Jacksonville. So
Speaker 1: I could just kind of see Meyer trying, especially in
Speaker 1: that division right kind of being able to envision, you know,
Speaker 1: I know we don't have the roster right now, but
Speaker 1: maybe this thing's gettable. At eight and eight, he's talking
Speaker 1: about running and that that's going to keep the numbers down.
Speaker 1: But then and that we move this full this fullback nonsense.
Speaker 1: What have we just moved to right guard, and just
Speaker 1: see how that goes. Like a bunch of shakes, get
Speaker 1: him up about a hundred pounds and and let's fly
Speaker 1: plug him right in. Text them right now, Money, see
Speaker 1: if if you want a roster spot, maybe offensive line.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have not it sounds like you
Speaker 1: haven't texted Tibo in quite a while. That would be
Speaker 1: an odd way to get back in touch with him.
Speaker 1: But if you type in Tebow on your phone right now,
Speaker 1: money doesn't bring up the most recent text, and how
Speaker 1: long ago was that? It does not. Wow. You know
Speaker 1: what's funny is I don't see it in here. Teba
Speaker 1: was blocked money. Maybe he was like able to send
Speaker 1: some sort of electronic pulse his contact from Money. By
Speaker 1: the way, when I was setting that, when I was
Speaker 1: setting that line for Lawrence, I did go back and
Speaker 1: look at what Andrew Luck did, which is interesting because
Speaker 1: everyone says that Lawrence best prospects since Luck. Surprisingly, and
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a different error. At this point,
Speaker 1: there's two thousand twelve but twenty three touchdowns, eighteen interceptions
Speaker 1: completed less uh just over of his passes passer rating
Speaker 1: of seventy six and a half. They want eleven and
Speaker 1: five though. Yeah, and did a lot of good things
Speaker 1: doing it. And that's the type of thing where I
Speaker 1: think that's a realist expectation. Lawrence could look really good
Speaker 1: and still his numbers might not be. I guess part
Speaker 1: of the reason I didn't set it in that area, Greg,
Speaker 1: because I know the game is played differently now and
Speaker 1: it's more offensively declined anyway, justin fields, let's hit some
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks justin fields. I just want to talk
Speaker 1: about playing time here. Twelve and a half starts, he is,
Speaker 1: of course the Bears, Andy Dalton is in the building,
Speaker 1: easy over. Yeah, I agree. Hmm. I thought that was
Speaker 1: about that sounded about right. I can absolutely see them
Speaker 1: starting Dalton for three games before pulling the record. You know,
Speaker 1: but we do this, we do this. We do this
Speaker 1: every year. What week will quarterback X start? And the
Speaker 1: conservative approach is always week six, week five, and then
Speaker 1: the team gets its butt kicked in week one, and
Speaker 1: bang that guy's in there in week two. That no
Speaker 1: one has a patience for for fifty days of Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: I promise you. I think the difference with Fields is
Speaker 1: just his disposition, his lead ship, like that's that's some
Speaker 1: of the things that really make him special. Um. You
Speaker 1: hear the way teammates gush about him. So I just
Speaker 1: think Andy Dalton can overcome that. To me, he goes
Speaker 1: into that building, he takes over that team, he takes
Speaker 1: over that quarterback room. He becomes their savior and their
Speaker 1: leader of this new era Bears football. And I think
Speaker 1: they're just to me that the coaches they'll have to
Speaker 1: go with him. I think I think he will inspire
Speaker 1: confidence in that team that Andy Dalton just simply can't.
Speaker 1: You can so far, I'm going over. The two of
Speaker 1: you have convinced me. Yeah, I'm kind of with you.
Speaker 1: I think I think all that was well said. I'll
Speaker 1: hit you over there too. Here's a tougher one, Trey Lance,
Speaker 1: I got him an eight and a half starts. I'm
Speaker 1: going over and Garoppolo in the middle. I thought about
Speaker 1: this the more. I think he's got a real chance
Speaker 1: to start Week one, um, and that it will be
Speaker 1: sooner than later. I think it's all going to be
Speaker 1: up to him. If he looks, if he looks awesome,
Speaker 1: and he's and he's picking up the offense, and he
Speaker 1: gives Kyle shanahand some different options. I think he's got
Speaker 1: a chance to play early. I'd be interested to hear
Speaker 1: what Money has to say, because I mean from a
Speaker 1: college angle, he's a little bit of an outlier in
Speaker 1: terms of how many passing attempts he had in college.
Speaker 1: So it's like, but you hear that he's you know,
Speaker 1: incredibly like intellectual, pre snap all there mentally, So if
Speaker 1: he's if he's able to do it, I would go over.
Speaker 1: But I would I would always go over in these
Speaker 1: situations with the rookie quarterbacks because I just don't think
Speaker 1: you go get this guy and do what you did
Speaker 1: without thinking in your mind there's a great chance he
Speaker 1: starts fourteen or fifteen games for us. Yeah, I'm with you,
Speaker 1: Mark and Greg. I think he starts, you know, because
Speaker 1: and look what if you know what is Shanahan so
Speaker 1: good at right? It's disguising, it's it's winning the play
Speaker 1: before the ball is snapped. And like you said, I
Speaker 1: mean what you hear about Trey Lance is just such,
Speaker 1: you know, a smart guy, someone who's able to diagnose.
Speaker 1: Was asked to do that to check in and out
Speaker 1: of place from the quarterback position, even though it was
Speaker 1: at North Dakota State. UM. You know, I I would
Speaker 1: be really surprised if he didn't start. I've got to
Speaker 1: believe they're still crossing their fingers that there's a way
Speaker 1: to move Garoppolo um that they can get, you know,
Speaker 1: recoup some of that draft capital they lost from a
Speaker 1: desperate team that that unfortunately sustains an injury and training
Speaker 1: camp um or preseason. So I you know, because look,
Speaker 1: I think you can design it right. You can kind
Speaker 1: of do what the Bills did with Josh Allen where
Speaker 1: you don't have to throw before Yeah, exactly, he's done.
Speaker 1: I think that's sort of been lost on this. That
Speaker 1: you know, when I was thinking of was when I
Speaker 1: was calling Herbert the best rookie season of the last
Speaker 1: two decades. Number two is probably r G three that
Speaker 1: same year with Andrew Luck and that's Kyle Sani and
Speaker 1: that you know, he was threw twenty touchdowns, five Intercepton's
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year r G three with Shanahan. If
Speaker 1: he can do it for r G three, I gotta
Speaker 1: think he's he's ready to do it. I just I
Speaker 1: wonder if because we're I think we're all in agreement
Speaker 1: that the Fortys have a chance to be very good
Speaker 1: this season. And it's not all on the quarterback. It's
Speaker 1: because it's just it's a well rounded roster that got
Speaker 1: killed by injury, uh setbacks last season, and you would
Speaker 1: think with steady quarterback play and all these other pieces
Speaker 1: that they can win a lot. I just wonder if
Speaker 1: if they decided to open the season with Garoppolo and
Speaker 1: and Site in part that Lance has such little background
Speaker 1: and playing in general, even going back to college, that
Speaker 1: if they get out of the gates fast and there
Speaker 1: are five and one, they might not be like in
Speaker 1: a rush to put in the kid, And then when
Speaker 1: they hit turbulence around mid season or Graplo gets hurt,
Speaker 1: which is always a factor here, then Lance gets there.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna play a start a similar amount
Speaker 1: of games. That's just a hunch I have, But I
Speaker 1: haven't just quickly pushed back on they're gonna be exceptional.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that defense is gonna look like.
Speaker 1: You know, they got rid of Buckner. That was the
Speaker 1: wrong call, you know, I on think Armstead has been
Speaker 1: as good without him. I think, you know, kin Law
Speaker 1: was average, you know, to just maybe even below. He
Speaker 1: started to come on a little bit towards the end
Speaker 1: of the year, but that didn't seem like an adequate
Speaker 1: replacement for Buckner, and that was that was a strength man.
Speaker 1: They got that push up front, and that was just
Speaker 1: kind of what caused everything else to operate. Everybody celebrated
Speaker 1: Robert sala for being the brains behind that defense and
Speaker 1: coordinating that defense. He's gone. I don't know what his
Speaker 1: replacement's gonna look like. Um, the secondary was beat to hell.
Speaker 1: They know, pretty rough in the secondary. They're now supposedly
Speaker 1: talking to Richard Sherman. That looks like their weakness. But
Speaker 1: they coached them up. I mean, they didn't have Nick
Speaker 1: Boast the last year. They didn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: their best players, and they coached them off. I mean,
Speaker 1: I kind of think maybe the scheme in the system
Speaker 1: prevails there even without Salah. All Right, fascinating team, the Diners.
Speaker 1: Moving on Kyle Pitts. They say, the best prospect tight
Speaker 1: end prospect maybe ever I'm gonna And there's an offense
Speaker 1: with stars at wide receiver and Julio Jones and Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridley a former m v P, and Matt Ryan was
Speaker 1: someone to approved and an offensive coach that everybody loves.
Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith with that set, Kyle Pitts as a
Speaker 1: rookie seventy one and a half catches yards, seven and
Speaker 1: a half t ds. Get it, obliterates the rookie tight
Speaker 1: end record by like triple. Oh my god, Well, this
Speaker 1: is a generational all time prospecting. What an excellent offensive
Speaker 1: situation I gotta pull up with Darren Waller had last
Speaker 1: year in one of the great tight end seasons, because
Speaker 1: I think that might even be close to better than
Speaker 1: what Waller had. All right, it'd be It'd be a
Speaker 1: lot to ask. I was ready to go over for anything,
Speaker 1: because I just want to believe in this in pits
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm buying the hype. Arthur Smith tight ends
Speaker 1: for what it's worth. You know, didn't put up huge
Speaker 1: numbers in Tennessee, even though he certainly got him a
Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns. Well that, yeah, that that feels a
Speaker 1: little too rich. Even though I was ready to go over,
Speaker 1: I guess I guess I'm gonna have to go under.
Speaker 1: By the way, one of the best rookie campaigns by
Speaker 1: a tight end never was Mike Ditka, who had one thousand,
Speaker 1: seventies six yards and twelve touchdowns. I mean, you look
Speaker 1: across the board most other rookies, and I know this
Speaker 1: is sort of a trope, but there's a truism behind it.
Speaker 1: The rookie tight ends just don't produce that way, So
Speaker 1: he's not a normal tight end. To be fair, I
Speaker 1: think I think he could get to nine dred of thousands.
Speaker 1: So if you, if you had put it right a
Speaker 1: little lower, I might, I might I go under. But
Speaker 1: I think that he's going to be different. I mean
Speaker 1: there's no question about that. So last year Waller, who
Speaker 1: was very I think I think that's the closest comp right.
Speaker 1: It's it's just an impossible cover. He almost operates like
Speaker 1: a wide receiver as opposed to a tight end, just
Speaker 1: so athletically gifted for his size. Last year, Waller did
Speaker 1: a hundred and seven catches for eleven nineties, six and
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. But again he was targeted DDT five times.
Speaker 1: I didn't look it up. I would guess the next
Speaker 1: highest targeted receiver was probably Agalore, like eight five targets
Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean, car was a part
Speaker 1: of out, so you got Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley. I
Speaker 1: just don't man, that seems high to me. Still. You
Speaker 1: know what if Julio Jones is still in the building, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he's moved targets. Uh, how about Nause Harris. Okay,
Speaker 1: new Steelers running back. He's gonna be locked and loaded
Speaker 1: and be a big part of that offense you you
Speaker 1: expect as a first round pick. Running back James Conner
Speaker 1: is in Arizona. Now, I'll set it atven total yards
Speaker 1: and seven and a half touchdowns. I'll go over. I'm
Speaker 1: sure fantasy people who were like all down and don't
Speaker 1: waste the first round pick on running back, Oh that
Speaker 1: that lasts as long as as you're in your fantasy
Speaker 1: draft and you're like, who else is getting three touches
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Naja Harris to me, was on a
Speaker 1: short list, I'd go I'd go over him and Pitts.
Speaker 1: I think I have a decent chance to you know,
Speaker 1: be underdog offensive rookie of the year. Guys, even with
Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks, I'll go over too, because I mean,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor surpassed the numbers you mentioned last year, and
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna use them all day long, starting
Speaker 1: right away. And I think that you know, you could
Speaker 1: also examine what the over under would be in terms
Speaker 1: of receiving yards because he's he's a dual threatened so
Speaker 1: I think he has a great chance to be Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year. I'd agree, you gotta ben, he can
Speaker 1: barely move hand the ball to the guy a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of those smoke routes, just you know, I agree,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up. You know, the one
Speaker 1: thing about Taylor is that he was behind the best
Speaker 1: offensive line in the league, you know, and I think
Speaker 1: the Steelers look like they might have one of the
Speaker 1: what ten worst at this point, So that would be
Speaker 1: the only concern, especially for someone that was running behind
Speaker 1: the offensive lines that he's been running behind his entire
Speaker 1: time in college. At the same time, there's like a
Speaker 1: flip side of that, right, Alabama's got this great offensive line,
Speaker 1: but you're also dealing with just incredible athletes size, speed
Speaker 1: ratio in the SEC, so he knows what it's like
Speaker 1: to have to absorb I think darn close to NFL
Speaker 1: contact at the d line linebacker level, and he broke
Speaker 1: a ton of tackles, So I'm with you. I think
Speaker 1: it's a hey, clean sweep, got the over and I'll
Speaker 1: do one more and then if anyone else has one, uh,
Speaker 1: please throw it out. Rashade Bateman, okay, first round pick
Speaker 1: of the Ravens. A lot of conversation that he is
Speaker 1: going to be exactly what they needed to get their
Speaker 1: passing game going well. According to this over under, I'm
Speaker 1: not totally buying it. Fifteen and a half catches, seven yards,
Speaker 1: three and a half, T D S three and a half,
Speaker 1: that's me. I'll go push. I think that you nailed that.
Speaker 1: I think you nailed the exact line. You keep the
Speaker 1: he's gonna have fifty and a half catches, and I
Speaker 1: think i'd go under two um at least for the
Speaker 1: yards in the in the catches that's at I feel
Speaker 1: like six D and fifty yards and forty five catches
Speaker 1: would be a success for a rookie receiver in that
Speaker 1: in that system. Come in, be part of the solution,
Speaker 1: and you don't have to light the world on fire.
Speaker 1: I feel like if I take the under, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be attacked for negative Lamar Jackson commentary, So uh,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like getting it. I'm already gonna get
Speaker 1: attacked by the anti bactors. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: two groups coming after me after this podcast, So I'll
Speaker 1: go over. Lamar Jackson canal throw outside the numbers as
Speaker 1: accurate as any quarterback in history. I'm going over to
Speaker 1: be fair Hollywood Brown five d at eighty four yards
Speaker 1: and seven touchdowns this rookie season, seven sixty nine and
Speaker 1: eight his second. I think maybe Bateman is viewed a
Speaker 1: little more complete than than that. I think you set
Speaker 1: the number right around right right where it should be
Speaker 1: over alright there? Anybody have one to throw out them?
Speaker 1: So I have I have one too quick, dan Esque
Speaker 1: ones because you were nice enough to offer them to us. UM,
Speaker 1: so you can just you don't have to analyze it.
Speaker 1: Just go over under landon Dickerson, your boy over under
Speaker 1: two sacks allowed, two sacks allowed? UM, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how else tweet Judges,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he's gonna allow any
Speaker 1: sacks out of the pivot in Philly this year over
Speaker 1: seventeen stars. Alright, how about this, Robert Sala This has
Speaker 1: to be captured on UM Broadcast Network. UM footage two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two fist bumps during the regular season
Speaker 1: over under two. So that's you know, a little over
Speaker 1: a week, you know, twelve a week or something. That's
Speaker 1: a pretty big number. He might get injured. Um, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under. Yeah. The camera found its way
Speaker 1: to Salah more often than any other player on the
Speaker 1: forty niners during his final couple of seasons there, so
Speaker 1: I think the cameras will be trained on Sala than it.
Speaker 1: Just I think the Jets defense isn't gonna be good
Speaker 1: enough this year. They didn't address the ball, that's side
Speaker 1: of the ball. I think it's gonna be a little
Speaker 1: bumpy as they try to figure some things out. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the under. There m not enough
Speaker 1: to fist bump about. How about over under? Well, it's
Speaker 1: not really an over under. It's an either or. Uh.
Speaker 1: Your boy Wilson has got more interceptions than touchdowns. Are
Speaker 1: more touchdowns than interceptions, Zack Wilson, by the way, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Well, go ahead, dan Is, I know
Speaker 1: where you're going. Greg. Um, let's see. I it's too
Speaker 1: I'm so conditioned to the failure at this position that
Speaker 1: I would get us. What's gonna probably happen is he's
Speaker 1: gonna have an up and down season. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: plenty of doubts around him, but I just want to
Speaker 1: live in the realm of optimism. I'm gonna say he's
Speaker 1: gonna go positive. We also, you've got a Mike Lafloor
Speaker 1: offense that came from the brain of Kyle Shanahan, which
Speaker 1: is a quarterback friendly. You're not gonna put quarterbacks into
Speaker 1: worlds of total chaos. It would be a huge disappointment
Speaker 1: if you threw more picks than touchdowns. So I just
Speaker 1: I can't see that world touchdowns one. It's hard to
Speaker 1: do that at this point. And Josh Allen did it
Speaker 1: his rookie season. He had he had more interception, but
Speaker 1: that's it's pretty rare. I mean, when that happens to
Speaker 1: a veteran like Jamis, it's like you become a punchline.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, no, the NFL is it's too
Speaker 1: hard to throw that many interceptions. I think he'll be
Speaker 1: fine accurate quarterback to we're talking about, yeah, you like
Speaker 1: nineteen and thirteen or something like. I was gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: they're back up. We just talked about this last week.
Speaker 1: Their backup quarterback right now is like Delta Burke, I
Speaker 1: don't even know if they have a crack up quarterback
Speaker 1: on the time. I don't know if you knew this.
Speaker 1: By the way, Delta Burke still a lot still were throwing.
Speaker 1: Are we throwing Mac Jones over? Under? I'm gonna set it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set it at seven and a half. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's too low, but I don't care. I'm going over.
Speaker 1: I'm because I'm going what I'm rooting for. I really
Speaker 1: think they're gonna try to make this work with Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: and they're only gonna go to and they're only gotta
Speaker 1: go to Mac Jones if is truly not going well,
Speaker 1: which is certainly, you know possible after watching last year's off,
Speaker 1: going over, you're going over. I I just I just
Speaker 1: don't believe in almost any veteran quarterback when a first
Speaker 1: round quarterback is being brought onto the roster. And I
Speaker 1: don't also don't believe that we're gonna get Cam Newton
Speaker 1: from four years ago right just because they added a
Speaker 1: couple of tight ends. He threw eight touchdown past his
Speaker 1: last year. This cannot be understated. Overstated eight touchdowns in
Speaker 1: fifteen starts in the NFL in twenty. It's almost impossible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is almost. Oh, I got one more. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: go um. I can't do better season. I think that's
Speaker 1: too tough. But who has who has better numbers? DeVante
Speaker 1: Smith or Jalen Waddle. I go Smith for sure, I
Speaker 1: think better opportunity versus tongue about loa. Yeah, that's fair,
Speaker 1: but there's more. There's more mouse to feed in Miami,
Speaker 1: and Waddle seems like he's going to be more like
Speaker 1: a big, big playmaker DeVante Smith maybe catch us some
Speaker 1: more short routes. He looks like the number one in Philly,
Speaker 1: Whereas battles like, yeah, I'll go Smith. I mean, I
Speaker 1: you know, you could argue for either. I'm going Smith.
Speaker 1: Smith is the goal for me too. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna They're gonna really work to make that the
Speaker 1: wide receiver prospect that actually plays out how the Eagles
Speaker 1: want to, Whereas maybe it's gonna take some time down
Speaker 1: in Miami. And I'm also like that's sold on toa
Speaker 1: I know that's not a very popular opinion, but not
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you, Dan, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: a totally popular opinion. He was totally buried all last season,
Speaker 1: there was very few people. You're gonna get attacked, Chad's
Speaker 1: gonna come slight your scalp for that. I just think
Speaker 1: there's and there were reasons for the excuses, and they
Speaker 1: were all valid for the most part. So I'm not
Speaker 1: like killing him saying he can't play. But it's just
Speaker 1: like that was not a fun guy to watch as
Speaker 1: a rookie. Uh. The assumption that a few months of
Speaker 1: the calendar passes and some other players are involved, the
Speaker 1: old sudden He's gonna be dynamic. Maybe it will be.
Speaker 1: We gotta see it. Yeah, I'm all right, I'm out.
Speaker 1: If anybody else has any I'm all set. Anybody else good?
Speaker 1: All right, real quick, real quick, alright, I got one more. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I know, I said over under, over under. Podcast hosts
Speaker 1: that have a cornhole board hanging on their wall set
Speaker 1: it at one and a half over under any podcast,
Speaker 1: any podcast hosts anywhere in their home, not a lot
Speaker 1: like a studio where they do podcast. This is my house.
Speaker 1: It is in their home, a cornhole board hanging on
Speaker 1: their wall. Confidently going over because I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know what we're what is the what kind of like
Speaker 1: it could be anyone with a podcast and they call
Speaker 1: themselves the host of it. We only need to find
Speaker 1: one more in the entire on the entire globe for
Speaker 1: that to be. You find guys, if you guys listening
Speaker 1: to the show, and you host the podcast, and you
Speaker 1: have a cornhole board there, let us know. There we go.
Speaker 1: I'm going over taking it over comfortably. Just think about
Speaker 1: like the Midwest alone, all I would imagine our thousands
Speaker 1: of college football podcasts we were, we were down on
Speaker 1: the cornhole boards everywhere. But it's it's supposed to be played.
Speaker 1: It's not a decoration. It's like it's it's a you know,
Speaker 1: nothing's no. This is what's great about it. It's it's functionality.
Speaker 1: I used I just used it a week ago. I
Speaker 1: just pulled it off the board, took it out front,
Speaker 1: through some bags, put it back. So not only is
Speaker 1: the decoration use, it's getting mileage. That's like you know, money.
Speaker 1: You could go play the records behind you on a
Speaker 1: record player if you needed to, so I think it
Speaker 1: would ruin your stylus. I think you would immediately via
Speaker 1: the record store. Brunners. And by the way, they do
Speaker 1: have lines in them. I almost wonder if it is
Speaker 1: and crack it open. Yeah, there's tracks on the front
Speaker 1: side and there are six tracks there, so I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's only one way to find that. And by the way,
Speaker 1: it's also a nod money to the great Chris Westling
Speaker 1: who introduced us to Cornell. And also, um, it should
Speaker 1: be noted that the go fund me for the Westling
Speaker 1: family Lakish and Link is hitting the three hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollar mark and that is a testament all the amazing
Speaker 1: fans of this show and everyone who loved west Uh. So,
Speaker 1: that is great and it's still out there if you
Speaker 1: want to um hit it. Um, you can find it
Speaker 1: on our social media accounts. And thank you to everyone
Speaker 1: that's contributed. That is awesome. Hidding me fantastic. That's not
Speaker 1: for you, Mark, stay away from it, okay, Nor am
Speaker 1: I attempting to take hold of it. I'm I'm very
Speaker 1: glad where it's going. So we get we gotta play
Speaker 1: some some bags, you know this uh this offseason, Mark
Speaker 1: and I were down at Colleen and Gonzos. They don't
Speaker 1: they just there's a movement. They don't like the name
Speaker 1: cornhole and they just call it like you know, bags
Speaker 1: or bagoo. Yeah, I think that like all those all
Speaker 1: Gonzo's Philly got friends. You know, they all called Bago bag.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Chicago's bags. But either way, I kind of
Speaker 1: I don't. I like the idea of bags. I like
Speaker 1: the idea of bags. The name cornhole, it's fair, it's
Speaker 1: a fair point. Everyone's just so, everyone's so like worried
Speaker 1: about saying something offensive. Everyone's taking to a certain place.
Speaker 1: I think with cornhole, it's not it's not that things.
Speaker 1: But you knew that thing? Yea do you mean that
Speaker 1: you first? So I don't knows And butthead okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know you. You're gonna have to explain that
Speaker 1: one to me, Dan, maybe you could do it right now?
Speaker 1: What do the what do the Philadelphians call it? Oh?
Speaker 1: Please play some bago big thumbs down in the bag bag.
Speaker 1: I like bags, that's good. Awes some corn throw some
Speaker 1: corn throw some corn. Okay, Well, I know where you
Speaker 1: can find a board if you need one. Hit me up. Money.
Speaker 1: You've said it all and we uh. I love when
Speaker 1: you're on the show. I always love it anytime, guys.
Speaker 1: And now you've got petrols of money is coming up? Right?
Speaker 1: All good? Yeah? Every day and I believe Money is like,
Speaker 1: I'm scheduled to talk for three hours today. That's not enough.
Speaker 1: I want for four four hours. Let's let's try to
Speaker 1: find another couple of hours, right, Money. I believe we
Speaker 1: have power rankings on NFL Network this week as well
Speaker 1: we do Thursday. I believe the old Zeus are gonna
Speaker 1: make the debut, so I will. He will service his
Speaker 1: foil find us on the design. Yeah, that's what makes
Speaker 1: good TV. Battle him. He's he's put the Jets at
Speaker 1: number eight, and I don't I find that to be
Speaker 1: a little bit out of bound. I said, Dan, that's
Speaker 1: way too low their top five team for me. It's
Speaker 1: why we're in the green today because I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: big Jets believer. There we go, There we go. All right,
Speaker 1: good stuff, all right, we'll be back. Like Greg said, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: are just gonna have some fun. We've got the schedule
Speaker 1: least dropping, so we're gonna have some analysis on that,
Speaker 1: including revenge games. And Greg, you gave me a good
Speaker 1: idea for an NFL dot com piece that I have
Speaker 1: to write. Uh spicier avenge with the bills involved. Uh,
Speaker 1: So be back Wednesday. Check us out NFL Network show
Speaker 1: Back Friday, and Yes, Me and Money on Power Ranking's
Speaker 1: on Thursday. A lot coming up. Stan has a signing
Speaker 1: off for a Quiet Storm the old Boss Money, star
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Speaker 1: course Ricky Hollywood behind the glass. Was that dot that
Speaker 1: that on your spa