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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast tweets too much about gold

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Handons. I come to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room, virtual whool room, filled with some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal and sitting in on the show today.

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Speaker 1: He is the star of the acclaimed instant hit micro

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Speaker 1: Seg Money on Money, Matt Money Smith. How's everybody doing

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Speaker 1: doing well? Greg? Greg scrunched his face when I read.

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Speaker 1: When I read the script, tweets too much about golf,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm responsible, like for the content

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Speaker 1: which I didn't that are put in front of me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't quite get it, because you know, none of us,

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Speaker 1: none of us tweet about golf, were too smart for that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the irony packed inside the what is Wait?

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Speaker 1: What was that little dig there? Greg? You're too smart

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Speaker 1: to tweet about golf. Yeah, it's a boring It's a

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Speaker 1: boring spectator sport, and tweeting about it would be even

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Speaker 1: more boring. I think we all share that. I thought

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Speaker 1: maybe it was a commentary on our colleague Adam Rank,

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Speaker 1: who tweets a lot about golf these days, or at

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Speaker 1: least his Instagram is is there's a lot of golf

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Speaker 1: and and I, as a golfer, used to be an

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Speaker 1: avid golfer. Um would politely disagree with Greg. I do

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Speaker 1: find it to be an exciting spectator sport, Um, But

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Speaker 1: I know I'm in I'm in a gross minority. I

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Speaker 1: used to know it's popular, it's popular. I used to play.

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Speaker 1: I worked at multiple golf courses as a child. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I love to play and nothing like uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: hitt and play nine holes after you finish your shift.

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Speaker 1: But it's a tough, tough like you bring that up

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Speaker 1: a lot. You have to make Greg like you are

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Speaker 1: allowed to beg on golf because when you were fourteen

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Speaker 1: you were a caddie one, so you use that a

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Speaker 1: lot as your I played, but I played on stop,

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Speaker 1: played on stop, so I was like twenty one or so.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, at a certain point you got to decide, Um,

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Speaker 1: is that what we're your job? You said, you said jobs.

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Speaker 1: So what were the different jobs at the golf course

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Speaker 1: you had? Well, you have to run the front desk,

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Speaker 1: you know when when people come in, and then you

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Speaker 1: have to wash bags. Um, you know when people return

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Speaker 1: with the bags, you have to return the golf carts. Um.

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Speaker 1: One kid once drove a golf cart into the pool there.

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Speaker 1: He got fired. He got fired for that. And then

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Speaker 1: sometimes if it's raining, you have to sit at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the hill and drive guys up the hill

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Speaker 1: because they don't want to walk in the rain up

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Speaker 1: the hill. I mean country club, right, and Greg, so

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Speaker 1: you you retired essentially at twenty one? Did you mature

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Speaker 1: out of the sport? I mean, people spend their lives

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Speaker 1: trying to mass I moved to New York. If you're

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Speaker 1: living New York and you want to play golf, it's

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Speaker 1: got to be like a huge priority in your life.

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Speaker 1: You gotta love it so much. And it just it

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Speaker 1: just knocked it out of me. And now you have children,

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Speaker 1: Like are you really gonna say, like, I'll see you

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Speaker 1: in seven hours. It's a tough ass. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: That's a tough one. And with golf, I was explain,

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Speaker 1: and it's not even seven it's and I gotta get

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Speaker 1: up early, I gotta stretch, then I gotta play holes.

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Speaker 1: And then afterwards were playing some cards, were playing dice

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Speaker 1: or whatever. So I'll see you at about nine pm

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Speaker 1: and I'll be lit to the nines by the time

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Speaker 1: I get one. So you must be with your children

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Speaker 1: twenty four seven, every single day of the year, bad

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Speaker 1: guy Mark said, good food. Knowing Mark again, I see

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Speaker 1: I wake up this morning. I woke up pretty early.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh man, early start today, six thirty. I

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Speaker 1: can't go back to bed. I jump on Twitter, see

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Speaker 1: what's going on, and I see you sending positive Nate

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Speaker 1: Tice tweets at five am. And then I text that

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Speaker 1: to the group and say, wow, five oh seven am.

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Speaker 1: Mark sent this, and Mark, You're replied that you've been

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Speaker 1: up since two. This is not good, my friend, and

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Speaker 1: we love you very much, and this is almost we're

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Speaker 1: getting to a point where we need to have some

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Speaker 1: type of intervention to get you on a sleep cycle

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Speaker 1: that carries you into your old age. That's what we

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Speaker 1: don't know about. Intervention. Would suggest that I'm like doing

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Speaker 1: it on purpose, but it's but you know, and Matt

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Speaker 1: money Smith was nice enough to send some suggestions along

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Speaker 1: by text, which I'm um following up on. But I've

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Speaker 1: been dealing with this for like fifteen years. So it

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Speaker 1: is what it is. This is the tough love. This

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Speaker 1: is this is coming at you on a broadcast and

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Speaker 1: saying you must clean this up because we're worried that

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come back and haunt you in the biggest

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Speaker 1: of all spots. That's all. Well, I'm certainly will, but

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Speaker 1: I believe this is the Circadian Rhythm podcast of record.

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Speaker 1: All right, So today's show, I hope everybody had a

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Speaker 1: nice Mother's Day weekend. I hope everybody took care of

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Speaker 1: their mom um and the wives because some people say, well,

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Speaker 1: my wife, she's not my mother, so I don't really

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Speaker 1: have to plug in on the wife, just the mother.

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Speaker 1: No, no no, no, you gotta do both. Good luck with

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Speaker 1: that method. Yeah, you try to go one or the other.

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Speaker 1: That that logic is not going to carry over. So

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Speaker 1: I think I hope everyone that's listening to the show

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Speaker 1: made the right decisions this weekend. Coming up on today's show,

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Speaker 1: with the draft now a little bit in the rear

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Speaker 1: view of me, or it's time to try to enter

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Speaker 1: reality into the conversation of all these rookies, because if

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Speaker 1: you listen to the football cognis m you know how

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Speaker 1: I feel about that, Dan, you know how I feel

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Speaker 1: To tell you, they will feel about is silent in

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Speaker 1: the town you know how I feel about it. Let

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Speaker 1: me hear let me hear it. Money, it's Kanya Santi.

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Speaker 1: The g is silent. Please don't buy it. I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like pronouncing it correctly would ruin the bit though.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the whole thing. By the way, is that

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Speaker 1: Dan's bit? Is it? Like? Is there is there an

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Speaker 1: over under? Is there like an around the NFL reddit

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Speaker 1: that sets the over under on how many mispronunciations Dan

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Speaker 1: bet and then at the end of it they settle up.

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Speaker 1: Because that's kind of what I try to figure out.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I know he's intentionally mispronouncing some of these things.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how many everything I'm saying is correct.

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Speaker 1: First of all, including cognis empty. Okay, so it's your opinion.

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Speaker 1: In doesn't mean it's the correct one money, that's all, okay.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's one way to put it. I don't

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Speaker 1: really I don't really ever try. I mean, I believe

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Speaker 1: it's the proper Italian pronunciation. But that's all right, proper

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Speaker 1: Italian pronunciation. What is your Italian heritage? Uh? Your sono studiato? Hello?

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Speaker 1: See I stand down, I'll never be invited back again.

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Speaker 1: Movement anyway over unders for rookies because yes, as I said,

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Speaker 1: perfect draft except for the Raiders. Okay, but the reality

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Speaker 1: some are gonna disappoint, and uh so we'll throw out

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Speaker 1: us hit the news. You're gonna hie, my friend. No,

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Speaker 1: that was not Delta Burke from Designing Women. That was

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning imploring a team to higher out and Gates.

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Speaker 1: Delta Burke. I found her very annoying. Even as a child.

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Speaker 1: I could tell that she was not my cup of tea. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are, Delta, Um, I hope everything's going well.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it starting Delta. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: we're playing this game, hang on. Well, total respect to her,

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Speaker 1: I just found her to be a little bit a

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Speaker 1: little bit too much still with us sixty four years old. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Delta didn't marry and married to Major Payne. Was that

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Speaker 1: the name of the sitcom? Major Dad? Carol McCraney. All right,

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Speaker 1: Important Eric Fisher, former Chiefs tackle, former number one overall pick.

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Speaker 1: He's got a new team. It's the Colts who signed

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Speaker 1: Fisher to a one year, nine point four million dollar contract.

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Speaker 1: He started a hundred and thirteen of a hundred and

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Speaker 1: injuries played a major factor, and now the Colts get

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Speaker 1: of Carson Once. Yeah. You know, we saw him twice

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Speaker 1: go a long way in the NFL. You know. Now,

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Speaker 1: good left tackles, right, you know that's and that is

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Speaker 1: hard to find, don't don't the Chargers know it. What

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Speaker 1: I've been looking at it left tackle for four years.

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Speaker 1: torn achilles. It's it's my number one concerned with this

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Speaker 1: That's why Frank Break's you know, there to to get

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Speaker 1: him making faster decisions, but for the first month or two,

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Speaker 1: it's a bit We've talked about how that's a bad

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Speaker 1: lucky division and Eric Fisher in theory helps you for

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they might be struggling for a while.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was if you look at teams that

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Speaker 1: like the Cults not targeting a young tackle was one

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Speaker 1: But I do find it funny that we're also the

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Speaker 1: off season goes through these waves where we're now in

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Speaker 1: a wave where we're not allowed to critique Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know what, actually Carson Wentz is, Like

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Speaker 1: tough on him? Like, yeah, who said that other than

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Speaker 1: Dan No. I mean it's maybe it, Maybe it is.

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Speaker 1: It's just come up on our show where I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's not really I'm not really pointing the finger

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Speaker 1: at one person. It's more just like the off season

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Speaker 1: does this all the time, where it's like we're not

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Speaker 1: excited about the Carson Wentz signing. Now it's like I

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Speaker 1: don't know he was really good in two thousand and seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was good in two thousand seventeen. So

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Speaker 1: I just I, you know, a lot has changed. So

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Speaker 1: Carson went nineteen mark all right left by by the way,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and look, we all we're all subjected

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Speaker 1: to to hero worship at times and we have to

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Speaker 1: abide by it because of what these players mean to

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Speaker 1: the league. But you know, I just to me, it's

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Speaker 1: so irresponsible. With Tom Brady, I'd like to to run

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Speaker 1: that call and to be that emphatic about how you

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Speaker 1: I don't think people know kind of how how much

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Speaker 1: these guys make, you know what I mean, like that

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Speaker 1: you're talking about players, you know fifty four through ninety

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Speaker 1: that if they show up at these voluntary workouts, everything's

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Speaker 1: taken care of, all of their meals, all of their training.

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Speaker 1: They get a per diem, you know, they so like

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Speaker 1: people don't realize they get paid per day that they

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Speaker 1: show up. So either they're working out on their own

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Speaker 1: because like Greg said, they're trying to make the team.

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Speaker 1: They're on the you know they may or may not

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Speaker 1: make the team. Well, if you do it at the facility,

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Speaker 1: you're making like three hundred bucks a day. So if

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Speaker 1: you're someone that's a fringe potential NFL player or practice

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Speaker 1: squad player and you're trying to make that practice squad, um,

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Speaker 1: if you don't go in, you're losing about a grand

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Speaker 1: a week to fifteen hundred bucks a week that you're

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Speaker 1: putting in your pocket for just showing up at the

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Speaker 1: facility and work. Not not to mention everything's paid for

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Speaker 1: when you go yeah, and that's just the financial side.

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Speaker 1: These guys are they're chasing the dream. You know, they

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to be in this building of this

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Speaker 1: professional team. Uh, turn some heads and make relationships. I

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Speaker 1: am totally with you. Brady exists and a whole he's

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Speaker 1: a he's a two per center within this NFL world

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Speaker 1: and he can't just speak for everyone. But is there

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Speaker 1: a point from another angle on that I totally agree

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Speaker 1: with you with that if there are, if they're gonna

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Speaker 1: stage it, those marginal players need to be there for

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Speaker 1: everything that you mentioned. But wasn't Brady's point a little

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Speaker 1: bit that he's sort of saying, you don't have baseball

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Speaker 1: players throwing ninety mile an hour fastballs like in you know,

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Speaker 1: the middle of winter when the baseball is not happening,

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Speaker 1: that maybe it's a tone down to some degree of

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Speaker 1: the structure of the off season that they're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: And these you know, they come before the c B

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Speaker 1: A like, why are we're right? You know you're right, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but you know again, they show up, they

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Speaker 1: watch film, they work out, they do breakout meetings, they

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Speaker 1: go on the field in shorts. They're almost never even

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Speaker 1: in shells in these and they're doing walkthroughs and then

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Speaker 1: maybe they're doing a little bit of of work. But

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Speaker 1: like the idea that Brady would drop that nugget to

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Speaker 1: the public that these guys are doing what's the equivalent

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Speaker 1: of a picture throwing an our fastball for seventy pitches

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Speaker 1: on a day in January. That's just irresponsible. That's that's there.

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Speaker 1: There's that's not what That's not what they're doing in

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Speaker 1: these you know, O T A s and these camps.

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Speaker 1: That's just not what's happening. John always looking at this

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Speaker 1: and like, we don't have to pay some of the money.

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Speaker 1: I like Burnt trying to fix this offensive line for

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Speaker 1: six years. Great, no one's like, no one's paying attention

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Speaker 1: to that anymore. Like that was the biggest sinkhole in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They're offensive one the Speaking of Football Morning

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Speaker 1: in America, Brandon being the bid Bills general manager, spoke

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Speaker 1: with Peter King and there is a report that the

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Speaker 1: league is primed to set a threshold vaccination rate amongst

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Speaker 1: players for teams to conduct traditional meetings and practices, in

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Speaker 1: which is obviously an advantage to be able to prepare

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Speaker 1: for a new season at that level and being told

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Speaker 1: King that it would be an advantage uh to hold

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Speaker 1: those meetings and have those practices, and it might make

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Speaker 1: a roster decision easier for him based on who is

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Speaker 1: vaccinated and who is not vaccinated. And Marcus opens up

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Speaker 1: a whole can of worms. Obviously, a national discourse about

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Speaker 1: vaccinations and who has to get one, who must get one,

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Speaker 1: who gets the choice. All that that is going to

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Speaker 1: connect to the NFL, I think in a big way

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Speaker 1: this summer. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't have

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Speaker 1: a huge hot take on this. I think from one angle,

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Speaker 1: being is talking about, like any general manager or executive

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Speaker 1: inside the building on the football side of operations, competitive advantage.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to lose the chance to gather um

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Speaker 1: if you can. But you know, this is a personal choice.

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Speaker 1: Is even sticks out to me as an interesting number

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Speaker 1: because what are the other fifteen percent doing on that front? Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a hot take on it. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: vaccinated and I'm not telling anyone else to do um

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Speaker 1: anything but um. The other fifteen percent seemed to be

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Speaker 1: a talking point inside a locker room to begin with, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon been was was kind of asked about

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Speaker 1: this followed up from Peter King because he already said,

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Speaker 1: like I've cut a guy, you know, he said the

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Speaker 1: quiet part. He said, the part like, of course they

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Speaker 1: would cut a guy if if like things are close

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Speaker 1: between two guys towards the end of the roster and

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Speaker 1: you're you're trying to keep everyone safe, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be a factor. Most other gms probably would just, you know,

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Speaker 1: quietly do it. And it's only gonna be for guys

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Speaker 1: who are kind of marginal anyways. Stars aren't gonna be

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Speaker 1: cut based on their medical uh preferences with the vaccine.

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Speaker 1: They're they're not cutting Tom Brady about this, and he

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Speaker 1: said the quiet part out loud. But it's like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like it's just like last off season where

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Speaker 1: we said the world is coming to the NFL that

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Speaker 1: like everything that words struggling with in our work lives

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Speaker 1: and everything is going to affect the NFL two and

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Speaker 1: this is this is a good example of that. Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, our country, you know, it's gonna have so

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Speaker 1: many people that don't want the vaccine, and the rest

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Speaker 1: of the world's kind of looking at like, what the

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Speaker 1: hell is wrong with you? You guys are smart enough

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Speaker 1: to have all the vaccines, like why why aren't you

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Speaker 1: taking them? And there's gonna be there's gonna end up

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Speaker 1: being repercussions, whether they like say it out loud or not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to me, uh, I'm with you, Greg, it's a non story.

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Speaker 1: I think it's obvious. And you know you're the the

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Speaker 1: anti actors can can have their way with you know,

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Speaker 1: however you want, but whatever, it's a business. You know,

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Speaker 1: if if you feel like this is the best way

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Speaker 1: to operate your business because you want to have eighty

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Speaker 1: five or vaccine and your facility and do it. You

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Speaker 1: don't like it, don't work for him, you know, go

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Speaker 1: go work for someone else. Go work for the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Go work for the Ravens or whoever else will bring

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Speaker 1: you in. If the bills aren't willing to employ you,

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Speaker 1: and if none of them are, whatever, go work somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's people. People mistake rights for privilege.

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Speaker 1: You know, these are independent, privately owned businesses, and then

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Speaker 1: that's that's the reality to me. I know it's not popular. Um,

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Speaker 1: I get it. I don't get I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to put words in your mouth to try

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Speaker 1: to put you on the anti anti vax or position.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take some sort of political stance,

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Speaker 1: But to me, I think it's just a guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but and there's also there's different forms of privilege, like

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Speaker 1: Lebron according to Dennis Shrewder and some you know German

558
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Speaker 1: interview like him in Bron were the only two guys

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Speaker 1: that haven't been vaccinated on the Lakers and intruders out

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Speaker 1: now after um, you know, getting the disease. Like that's

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Speaker 1: the privilege of being Lebron. Like if if you're a

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Speaker 1: if you're a starter making a ton ofment, you might

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Speaker 1: have the privilege to have a decision. But if you're

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like like guys who get arrested and

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Speaker 1: stuff like, you don't have the Like those guys end

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Speaker 1: up losing their jobs if you run a foul the law.

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Speaker 1: And this is this is similar. Do we know if

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady um accepted the vaccine because he seemed to

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Speaker 1: um issue the concept of wearing a mask the entire

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Speaker 1: season and he's out there whipping the ball around in

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Speaker 1: a park. You know, whenevere else connect you gotta bring

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Speaker 1: up old desk mark huh fuenty of doubts that connect

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Speaker 1: on Tom Brady if you, if you care to in

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Speaker 1: those realms all right, in other news mark, who is

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow? Mm hmm, well he's many people. Um. He

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Speaker 1: affected our lives when he did the football version of

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow with a multitude of teams about ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: and Dan and I were charged with I am not exaggerating. Um,

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Speaker 1: there was a stretch of time where Dan and I

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Speaker 1: were literally charged with writing ten plus Tim Tebow articles

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Speaker 1: a week. Mine um involved him dating or wanting to

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Speaker 1: be dated by Kardashian various Kardashian sisters. There was a

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Speaker 1: Katie Perry spread in there, um, something to do with

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Speaker 1: someone else. And Dan and I would tell you how

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Speaker 1: many Tebow articles we did each week, and whoever wrote

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Speaker 1: more would get the first round of beers for free

587
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: at the uh the old tavern up the street. The

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Speaker 1: breaking the breaking point for me was ye and while

589
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Speaker 1: the brain point was he ended up on my beam

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Speaker 1: and it was a horrible situation. Uh so that was bad.

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Speaker 1: But the break point for me is a professional NFL

592
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: media was having to work one Easter morning and I'm

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Speaker 1: in the newsroom and I'm you know, I got my

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Speaker 1: eye out, What's what's going on the league? It's quiet day,

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Speaker 1: It's Easter Sunday. And then a furious shadowy league figure

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Speaker 1: calls ready to fire my ass because I had yet

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Speaker 1: to write a poe about Tim Tebow speaking at some

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Speaker 1: Christian gathering in front of fifty thousand people or something.

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Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jeremiah's dad was involved. Was his thing,

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Speaker 1: It's like, and there was a fury that I had

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Speaker 1: yet to write a story about this church event, which

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Speaker 1: I guess. I was like, oh, I guess I blew

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00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: that one. Uh, And I was like, this is horrible,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want this to happen anymore in my life.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think Tim Tebow landing spots was the

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Speaker 1: first article I ever wrote at at NFL dot com.

607
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: He was getting replaced by who was he getting replaced? Man?

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Speaker 1: You should remember this Peyton Manning. Of course, right after

609
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Speaker 1: free agency. It was like that, the reaction to Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning signing there I give I give John Elway credit

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Speaker 1: for this, and everybody listened to the show knows I

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Speaker 1: could be critical towards John uh and his handling of

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Speaker 1: the Broncos, especially in the last five years or so.

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Speaker 1: But at the height of Tebow Mania and that two

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Speaker 1: thousand I guess it was eleven season when everyone was

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Speaker 1: going crazy and he was having those fild finishes to

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Speaker 1: the game, and then of course the playoff win over

618
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and all that mania with the ninety yard touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Elway never bought in even in the press conferences. He

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Speaker 1: never gave the people what they wanted, which was for

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Speaker 1: him to say, he's our future, He's our team. Lay

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00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: always knew. I wonder what happened to that guy. I have.

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Speaker 1: I have three nuggets on Tebow that I'll share. UM.

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Speaker 1: One is and I don't know if these are incredible.

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Speaker 1: I think they're in chronological order. UM. I was calling

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Speaker 1: before I got the Charger's gig. I used to just call,

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Speaker 1: you know, game of the week, UM on the radio,

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Speaker 1: so I would be in whatever NFL talent calling a game.

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Speaker 1: I was doing a Packers Broncos game, and I was

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Speaker 1: on the field at Lambeau and I was watching Tim

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Speaker 1: Tebow warm up. And I have never seen in all

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Speaker 1: my years of calling football, college or professional, such a

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00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: poor throwing warm up like I was in disbelief how

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Speaker 1: badly he was missing receiver, like it really was. It

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00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: was like beyond comprehend that, like, wait, this is an

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Speaker 1: NFL and you're watching the receivers just kind of getting

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00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: all pissy as they're running their routes. Um, that's one too.

638
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Speaker 1: I called the Broncos Bears game that Caleb Haney started

639
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: for the Bears, in which the Broncos one in overtime.

640
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I had to catch a flight out of Denver that night.

641
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: I think it might have been Tebow's first start, um

642
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: or it was it was an early Tebow moment, whatever

643
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: the case. Before I called NFL games, I used to

644
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: call college football games, so I had been in some

645
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: of these massive like I've called Tennessee Alabama. I mean,

646
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking giant, ninety thousand sec fans freaking out, pouring

647
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: out of the stadium, celebrating in the streets for hours

648
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: on end. That went over the Bears is the closest

649
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: thing I have ever experienced in the NFL to a

650
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: college atmosphere. If you've ever been a mile high, you

651
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: you leave the stadium and if you go up on

652
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: the hill, it's the strip of bars. This st You

653
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: couldn't move a car. I couldn't get to my flat.

654
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: I had to spend the night in Denver. I could

655
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: not get out because people had just foured into the

656
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: streets to celebrate this regular season win over the Caleb

657
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: Haney lead Bears authored by Tom Tim Tebow. And then

658
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: my third nugget is, of course he played second fiddle

659
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: to me on the successful single season network show Million

660
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: Dollar Mile on CBS that I forgot about that. So

661
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: you people and I were tight. You guys worked together,

662
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: work together. We'd spend eighteen hours a day together on

663
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: set for about three weeks straight. Could not could not

664
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: be and I don't know if I've ever met like he's.

665
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: He's as nice a person as you've ever been around

666
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: in your life. Um, as you know, could not could

667
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: not be more happy that I was able to spend

668
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: those three weeks with that pleasant young man. Do you

669
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: still like text once in a while about various items

670
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: in your phone? I have, he's in my phone. Yeah,

671
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: I do not text him though. Did you tell him

672
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: that he had the worst pregame warm up you've ever

673
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: seen out of a corvette? You know, what's money, believe

674
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: it or not. I don't know if I said it exactly, UM,

675
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: but I kind of alluded to it. He's got like

676
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: this great self deprecating sense of humor, believe it or not,

677
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: like he was he totally I mentioned I had I

678
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: think I think I had mentioned something to that. You know,

679
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't that abrasive. I just said, hey, I called

680
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: that that Bronco Packer game. I was watching your warm up.

681
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, so I think I kind of I

682
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: took a circuitous route to get to that point. And

683
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: it was a very gentle point I made anyway. Like

684
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: with all that said, and you know, I do want

685
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: to I I feel like it's a whole episode just talking

686
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: to Money about his Tebow experience. But Tebow is back

687
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is pretty nuts to me. He's

688
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: thirty three years old now. Um, he just spent the

689
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: last four or five years in the organization of the

690
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: New York Mets in Major League Baseball trying to make

691
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: it as a pro. And he hacked it down in

692
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: the minors and went through the grind of the minor

693
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: league season, which is not um glamorous on any level.

694
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: And this is a lionaire athlete. Um didn't work out,

695
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: and now urban Meyer is bringing him to the Jacksonville

696
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: Jaguars where he's going to get a chance, uh to

697
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: try out as a tight end. Now, Mark the quarterback

698
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: dream is dead. Ken Tim Tebow make a team. Let

699
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: me tell you their depth dar right now at tight

700
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: end our Boy, Chris Man, Hurts, Luke Farrell, Farrell, Tyler Davis,

701
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy, ben Ellefson all on the depth chart. Tebow

702
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: does he have a shot? I mean he couldn't make

703
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: it based on the fact that Urban Meyer UM seems

704
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: to love him. And you know, to Money's point, people

705
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: that you know, no Tin Tebow and away from some

706
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: of the you know, media critique say the same thing.

707
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: And and this is a young team UM with not

708
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, major veteran leadership. So I

709
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: mean from that angle, I would say, yes, can he

710
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: still play? Can he play tight end? I mean, he

711
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: is an incredible athlete and he maybe maybe still has

712
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: those skills. I mean I'd want to see him play

713
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: before I can say yes or no. But from a

714
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: person angle, I think they're not bringing him in UM

715
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: without a real chance of him being on the roster.

716
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: I think they're bringing him in like most thirty four

717
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: year old veterans that get signed this time of year

718
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: as a camp body, maybe a little bit of a

719
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: favor in this case, and his chances of even being

720
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: ahead of O'Shaughnessy for the fourth or fifth tight end

721
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: spot are slim to none. There's very little reason to

722
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: think he would be remotely athletic enough to play tight end.

723
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Like it's starting tebow to your organization, because you love

724
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: the name alone creates the man. He's in shape, and

725
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: it's like, what's the eighty six roster spot to Irban Meyer,

726
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: Sure give him some, give him some time in in

727
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: May through August and in the odds, you know, the

728
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: overwhelming odds are then he say goodbye. Eight years ago

729
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: I would have said, oh, this is also a needless

730
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: distrus action in that building. But that's a t bamania.

731
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: I feel like it's from another era. I don't think

732
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a story. I think it's

733
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: going to be a part of this camp with Trevor

734
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Lawrence in the building, but I don't think it's going

735
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: to take over the team the way it maybe would

736
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: have once upon a time. Um to you know, to me,

737
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of things. One, you know,

738
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if the Jags need publicity,

739
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: and you know, in in Jacksonville, you know, I'm not

740
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: quite sure. I would assume after Trevor Lawrence, you've got

741
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: everything you need right to try to stoke the fire

742
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: and that fan base. I've struggled to cell tickets. Obviously

743
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: Lawrence helps, but more more than most franchises. That's fair. Yeah,

744
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: so to Mek, to me, that's you know, I think

745
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: it's worth to me. It's more financial as opposed to football.

746
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: The one thing I would say that I didn't add

747
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: from you know, my I think I called two or

748
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: three of his games. But it's like the Beatles, like,

749
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: at least at that point it was. It was not

750
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: that I was alive when the Beatles, when Beatlemania was

751
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: taking over, but you see the film of it that's

752
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: sort of looked like like when you came out of

753
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: the tunnel. They had this group and I had never

754
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: seen this for any other team before, but they had

755
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: a group of what I would say was probably two

756
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: to three hundred people that would come on the field

757
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: and sit in this one particular area that we're just

758
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: there for Tebow. They were not there to watch the

759
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: Broncos warm up, they were not v I P. This

760
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: was a Tebow centric group, and I think that's what

761
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: you invite, right, you invite all these people that um.

762
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: And again, financially it's great, but from a football standpoint,

763
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: when you're warming up and you're trying to get ready

764
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: to play, you know, this game that's tough enough as

765
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: it is, and you've got two hundred people staying on

766
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: the field that it paid for this premier experience with

767
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: this individual that may or may not have a huge

768
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: impact on the game. I think that's asking, you know,

769
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: that's asking a little bit from the rest of your

770
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: roster right to embrace tebow Mania going into a seat

771
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be there and it's gonna be at

772
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: every spot. If you're listening fourth round pick Jordan's Smith,

773
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: you're like, please give me a rep against Tebow and

774
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: let me wipe the floor with it. Got this floor please? Um.

775
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: And finally in the news, the NFL will release it's

776
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: schedule on Wednesday, and you can check that out right

777
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: here on NFL Network And were there, I should say,

778
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: they're on NFL Network and ESPN two has it as well.

779
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: Contractually obligated to mention that, Um, what do you guys,

780
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: if you have the power to pick the opening game,

781
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this one. Mark. If you

782
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: have the power to choose, what is the Thursday night opener,

783
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: what's the matchup you want to see? All right? So

784
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: looking at all their home and a way opponents, so

785
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: you gotta go. The problem is there away against the Patriots.

786
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: So you're saying they Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

787
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, get the game obviously right otherwise, but they

788
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: play in New England, so that is tedious because that

789
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: wipes out what would easily be my number one pick.

790
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: There's a very clear second for me. Don't give me

791
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: Bucks Saints the first of all, that is highly annoying.

792
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: UM give me Tampa Bay Buccaneers at home against the

793
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Yep, I think that's the choice. Um, I agree,

794
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: Saints Saints feels like it's almost as likely. I don't

795
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: think they want to use They wouldn't do the Cowboys

796
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: or the Giants. I don't think. If anything, because it's

797
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: like the kickoff is gonna get great ratings. Anyways, Let's

798
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: save that Cowboys game for another time. The Bills. The

799
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: Bills are sort of the perfect the perfect compromise, the

800
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: perfect marriage. They're the best team possible, and they're also, like,

801
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, a smaller market. It's a matchup you wouldn't

802
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: be used to see, and it's beautiful. Yeah, I think

803
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,479
Speaker 1: the I just wonder if that's too early for that game, right,

804
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean a potential Super Bowl preview? You would think

805
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: they'd want that maybe a little bit later. Um, I mean,

806
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: like you said, they're gonna get ratings anyway. Right, it

807
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: feels like it feels like it could be Saints with

808
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: Jamis and everything, But that would that I'm with Mark,

809
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: the Bills would think Jamis is like a big national

810
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: selling point. I don't know, not at all. I will

811
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: say this, and I know they they like to have

812
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: it obviously in the building of the defending champions, So

813
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: maybe this rows it out. But I will throw this

814
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: one out because I know this is an important facility

815
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: in our league and I know this is a big market.

816
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: Was to check that box? What if Tampa Bay went

817
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: to l A to play the Rams in the full

818
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: House at Englewood, Matthew Stafford's first game I bow side

819
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, They kind of got robbed of

820
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: opening that stadium the right way. In Beau of COVID.

821
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: This would be a way to kind of sell the

822
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: whole experience and what it means and a good game

823
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: and a really good but the Bucks would totally revolt.

824
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: What was the year? Was it the well, they just

825
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: got the Super Bowl in their building, so you know,

826
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: I know, remember when the Ravens had to after they

827
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl had to open what I think

828
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: it was against the Broncos and I think Joe Flaccos

829
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: like passes in this game, but they had open on

830
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: the road if I'm not mistaken, because the Orioles were

831
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: like at home on the same Peter Angelos, the owner

832
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: of the Orioles, would not move a game. Uh, and

833
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: it stuck it to the Ravens. It sounds like some

834
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: like rich guy fighting that we were just trivy to

835
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: plus there was like not that it's a reason to

836
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: do it, but no player or team has ever owned

837
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: another team over the course of the amount of time

838
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: Brady was in in New England. As Brady and the

839
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: Patriots did Buffalo like literally like statistically, no one beat

840
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: up on one other franchise enough so it would be

841
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: a nice little like we can get back at even

842
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: at the end, even in Brady's last year, the Bills

843
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: had a chance to win end and didn't come up.

844
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: To me, it probably comes down to the Cowboys and

845
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: the Bills, right, I mean that's so I feel it

846
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: gonna be the giants in the Bills. I feel like

847
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: they don't like to use their best things their Cowboys. Yeah,

848
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys makes a lot of that. If I if I

849
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Speaker 1: were a betting man, which I am not, especially in

850
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: matters related to professional football. Cowboys at Bucks. That brings

851
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: the ratings in a biting reaction show. By the way,

852
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: we're doing a Wednesday night show. We're changing our schedule

853
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: this week. We're so big on the schedule release this year.

854
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: We love it. They rolled out Viking Saints as an opener,

855
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, following that NFC title games. So they don't

856
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 1: they don't always save you know, the best matchup right.

857
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. All right, So we're

858
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: caught up on the news. Now, let's get caught up

859
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: on you know, where are these rookies, these high profile rookies.

860
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: How are they going to come out of their rookie seasons.

861
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of silly obviously, because you can't really know

862
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: how these guys are gonna play. Look at look at

863
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you just studied Money for an entire

864
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: season is the voice of the Chargers. Nobody thought Herbert

865
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: was gonna do what he did, so that's that's part

866
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: of the fun. Jeremiah ranked them below Ross Blacklock, uh

867
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: Texans defensive tackle. You know the hits? You know that

868
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: that is that is wonder Wall by Oasis. Every time

869
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: I see like a nugget about Blacklock, I'm just like, well,

870
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: DJ had him nineteen Herbert, you know, I'd like to

871
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: play the thing like, oh, I like feuding with people

872
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: because I don't take it seriously. But then you see

873
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: the stuff where he always brings up DJ and how

874
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: he missed on Darnald and how he's bringing up that

875
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: justin Herbert thing constantly. This is your way of seriously

876
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: sticking it back to DJ for his little fun social media.

877
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: Very spiteful. I mean, I I just would think it'd

878
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: be awkward that he has to now work with Herbert

879
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: for the next decade like this amazing quarterback. It's like, yeah,

880
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: I thought you were like as good as like a backup,

881
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, defensive or every every show, or he thought

882
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: he was the twentieth best player in the draft, which

883
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: I would say is quite a compliment, right for someone

884
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: that that was operating in a run first offense and

885
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: a head coach that was terrified to have his quarterback

886
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: take chances. Well, he's like Tom Talsco didn't see him

887
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: as a top twenty the twentieth best play there, that's

888
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: for sure. Ain't that the truth? So let's since we're

889
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: talking quarterbacks, let's start with pick one, pick one of

890
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: one of two fifty nine, Trevor Lawrence. Really interesting to

891
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: imagine where the Jaguars end up this season if they

892
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: get legit quarterback play, which is in line here potentially.

893
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: So let me throw this out as a rookie season

894
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence, and you guys tell me over under,

895
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: is this in the ballpark in your mind? Or is

896
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: this way out of line? First of all, he's starting,

897
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: let's say, I'll say, uh, you know, sixteen seventeen games,

898
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half games, all right, a half touchdowns,

899
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half interceptions, yards passer rating? Am I crazy?

900
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: Is this too optimistic? Or are we should we look

901
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: at him as emerging as something close to his star.

902
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: Something Herbert asked right out of the game, I'm going

903
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: under with those numbers, I mean expecting, and those are

904
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: similar but a little lower than what Herbert did last year.

905
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: That that's a lot to ask. I mean, even even

906
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, who was playing pretty well last year, wasn't

907
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: going to get to those sort of numbers. And I

908
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: still have questions about how this surban Meyer thing goes

909
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: and the talent around him in Jacksonville. It's not like

910
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: they're loaded there. I don't think Lawrence is landing in

911
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: an amazing situation. I think he's landing in a pretty

912
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: typical situation for a number one pick. I don't know.

913
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Baker Mayfield started fewer games through twenty seven touchdowns,

914
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: had fourteen interceptions in thirty seven hundred yards. So if

915
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: you're giving an extra game, you know, sixteen and a

916
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: half starts you can get. You gave him to Trevor Lawrence.

917
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: I think you're in the ballpark. And I wouldn't have

918
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: a problem with over With the way that the NFL

919
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: operates offenses right now, yeah, I think i'd lean under. Um.

920
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: I just you know, I feel like Herbert's season was

921
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: such an outlier, you know, in terms of just those

922
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: those numbers, we don't see him, you know, and I

923
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: think in terms of urban he's such a you know,

924
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: he is such a maniac for for winning, and I

925
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: could see him trying to minimize mistakes that are inevitably

926
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: going to come with rookie quarterback, no matter how good

927
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: a prospect they are, because you know, we saw that

928
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: in a lot of those Charger games. You know, as

929
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: great as Herbert was, late game situations tended to get

930
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: away from him a little bit. A lot of that

931
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: could be because the defense wasn't playing well and maybe

932
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: he felt like he had to do too much. But

933
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: they don't have a good defense in Jacksonville. I don't

934
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: think they have a great offensive line in Jacksonville. So

935
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: I could just kind of see Meyer trying, especially in

936
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: that division right kind of being able to envision, you know,

937
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: I know we don't have the roster right now, but

938
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: maybe this thing's gettable. At eight and eight, he's talking

939
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: about running and that that's going to keep the numbers down.

940
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: But then and that we move this full this fullback nonsense.

941
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: What have we just moved to right guard, and just

942
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: see how that goes. Like a bunch of shakes, get

943
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: him up about a hundred pounds and and let's fly

944
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: plug him right in. Text them right now, Money, see

945
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: if if you want a roster spot, maybe offensive line.

946
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have not it sounds like you

947
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: haven't texted Tibo in quite a while. That would be

948
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: an odd way to get back in touch with him.

949
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: But if you type in Tebow on your phone right now,

950
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: money doesn't bring up the most recent text, and how

951
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: long ago was that? It does not. Wow. You know

952
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: what's funny is I don't see it in here. Teba

953
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: was blocked money. Maybe he was like able to send

954
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: some sort of electronic pulse his contact from Money. By

955
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: the way, when I was setting that, when I was

956
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: setting that line for Lawrence, I did go back and

957
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: look at what Andrew Luck did, which is interesting because

958
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: everyone says that Lawrence best prospects since Luck. Surprisingly, and

959
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a different error. At this point,

960
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: there's two thousand twelve but twenty three touchdowns, eighteen interceptions

961
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: completed less uh just over of his passes passer rating

962
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: of seventy six and a half. They want eleven and

963
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: five though. Yeah, and did a lot of good things

964
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: doing it. And that's the type of thing where I

965
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: think that's a realist expectation. Lawrence could look really good

966
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: and still his numbers might not be. I guess part

967
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: of the reason I didn't set it in that area, Greg,

968
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: because I know the game is played differently now and

969
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: it's more offensively declined anyway, justin fields, let's hit some

970
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks justin fields. I just want to talk

971
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: about playing time here. Twelve and a half starts, he is,

972
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: of course the Bears, Andy Dalton is in the building,

973
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: easy over. Yeah, I agree. Hmm. I thought that was

974
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: about that sounded about right. I can absolutely see them

975
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: starting Dalton for three games before pulling the record. You know,

976
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: but we do this, we do this. We do this

977
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: every year. What week will quarterback X start? And the

978
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: conservative approach is always week six, week five, and then

979
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: the team gets its butt kicked in week one, and

980
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: bang that guy's in there in week two. That no

981
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: one has a patience for for fifty days of Andy Dalton,

982
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: I promise you. I think the difference with Fields is

983
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: just his disposition, his lead ship, like that's that's some

984
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: of the things that really make him special. Um. You

985
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: hear the way teammates gush about him. So I just

986
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: think Andy Dalton can overcome that. To me, he goes

987
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: into that building, he takes over that team, he takes

988
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: over that quarterback room. He becomes their savior and their

989
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: leader of this new era Bears football. And I think

990
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: they're just to me that the coaches they'll have to

991
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: go with him. I think I think he will inspire

992
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: confidence in that team that Andy Dalton just simply can't.

993
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: You can so far, I'm going over. The two of

994
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: you have convinced me. Yeah, I'm kind of with you.

995
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: I think I think all that was well said. I'll

996
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: hit you over there too. Here's a tougher one, Trey Lance,

997
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: I got him an eight and a half starts. I'm

998
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: going over and Garoppolo in the middle. I thought about

999
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: this the more. I think he's got a real chance

1000
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: to start Week one, um, and that it will be

1001
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: sooner than later. I think it's all going to be

1002
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: up to him. If he looks, if he looks awesome,

1003
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: and he's and he's picking up the offense, and he

1004
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: gives Kyle shanahand some different options. I think he's got

1005
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: a chance to play early. I'd be interested to hear

1006
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: what Money has to say, because I mean from a

1007
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: college angle, he's a little bit of an outlier in

1008
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: terms of how many passing attempts he had in college.

1009
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: So it's like, but you hear that he's you know,

1010
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: incredibly like intellectual, pre snap all there mentally, So if

1011
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: he's if he's able to do it, I would go over.

1012
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: But I would I would always go over in these

1013
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: situations with the rookie quarterbacks because I just don't think

1014
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: you go get this guy and do what you did

1015
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: without thinking in your mind there's a great chance he

1016
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: starts fourteen or fifteen games for us. Yeah, I'm with you,

1017
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: Mark and Greg. I think he starts, you know, because

1018
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: and look what if you know what is Shanahan so

1019
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 1: good at right? It's disguising, it's it's winning the play

1020
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: before the ball is snapped. And like you said, I

1021
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: mean what you hear about Trey Lance is just such,

1022
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, a smart guy, someone who's able to diagnose.

1023
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: Was asked to do that to check in and out

1024
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: of place from the quarterback position, even though it was

1025
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: at North Dakota State. UM. You know, I I would

1026
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: be really surprised if he didn't start. I've got to

1027
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: believe they're still crossing their fingers that there's a way

1028
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: to move Garoppolo um that they can get, you know,

1029
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: recoup some of that draft capital they lost from a

1030
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: desperate team that that unfortunately sustains an injury and training

1031
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: camp um or preseason. So I you know, because look,

1032
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: I think you can design it right. You can kind

1033
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: of do what the Bills did with Josh Allen where

1034
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: you don't have to throw before Yeah, exactly, he's done.

1035
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: I think that's sort of been lost on this. That

1036
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, when I was thinking of was when I

1037
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: was calling Herbert the best rookie season of the last

1038
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: two decades. Number two is probably r G three that

1039
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: same year with Andrew Luck and that's Kyle Sani and

1040
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: that you know, he was threw twenty touchdowns, five Intercepton's

1041
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year r G three with Shanahan. If

1042
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: he can do it for r G three, I gotta

1043
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: think he's he's ready to do it. I just I

1044
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: wonder if because we're I think we're all in agreement

1045
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: that the Fortys have a chance to be very good

1046
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: this season. And it's not all on the quarterback. It's

1047
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: because it's just it's a well rounded roster that got

1048
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: killed by injury, uh setbacks last season, and you would

1049
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: think with steady quarterback play and all these other pieces

1050
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: that they can win a lot. I just wonder if

1051
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: if they decided to open the season with Garoppolo and

1052
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: and Site in part that Lance has such little background

1053
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: and playing in general, even going back to college, that

1054
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: if they get out of the gates fast and there

1055
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: are five and one, they might not be like in

1056
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: a rush to put in the kid, And then when

1057
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: they hit turbulence around mid season or Graplo gets hurt,

1058
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: which is always a factor here, then Lance gets there.

1059
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna play a start a similar amount

1060
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: of games. That's just a hunch I have, But I

1061
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: haven't just quickly pushed back on they're gonna be exceptional.

1062
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what that defense is gonna look like.

1063
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: You know, they got rid of Buckner. That was the

1064
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: wrong call, you know, I on think Armstead has been

1065
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: as good without him. I think, you know, kin Law

1066
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: was average, you know, to just maybe even below. He

1067
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: started to come on a little bit towards the end

1068
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: of the year, but that didn't seem like an adequate

1069
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: replacement for Buckner, and that was that was a strength man.

1070
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: They got that push up front, and that was just

1071
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of what caused everything else to operate. Everybody celebrated

1072
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: Robert sala for being the brains behind that defense and

1073
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: coordinating that defense. He's gone. I don't know what his

1074
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: replacement's gonna look like. Um, the secondary was beat to hell.

1075
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: They know, pretty rough in the secondary. They're now supposedly

1076
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: talking to Richard Sherman. That looks like their weakness. But

1077
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: they coached them up. I mean, they didn't have Nick

1078
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: Boast the last year. They didn't have a lot of

1079
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: their best players, and they coached them off. I mean,

1080
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: I kind of think maybe the scheme in the system

1081
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: prevails there even without Salah. All Right, fascinating team, the Diners.

1082
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: Moving on Kyle Pitts. They say, the best prospect tight

1083
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: end prospect maybe ever I'm gonna And there's an offense

1084
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: with stars at wide receiver and Julio Jones and Calvin

1085
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Ridley a former m v P, and Matt Ryan was

1086
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: someone to approved and an offensive coach that everybody loves.

1087
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith with that set, Kyle Pitts as a

1088
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: rookie seventy one and a half catches yards, seven and

1089
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: a half t ds. Get it, obliterates the rookie tight

1090
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: end record by like triple. Oh my god, Well, this

1091
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: is a generational all time prospecting. What an excellent offensive

1092
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: situation I gotta pull up with Darren Waller had last

1093
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: year in one of the great tight end seasons, because

1094
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: I think that might even be close to better than

1095
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: what Waller had. All right, it'd be It'd be a

1096
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: lot to ask. I was ready to go over for anything,

1097
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: because I just want to believe in this in pits

1098
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm buying the hype. Arthur Smith tight ends

1099
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: for what it's worth. You know, didn't put up huge

1100
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: numbers in Tennessee, even though he certainly got him a

1101
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns. Well that, yeah, that that feels a

1102
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: little too rich. Even though I was ready to go over,

1103
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: I guess I guess I'm gonna have to go under.

1104
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: By the way, one of the best rookie campaigns by

1105
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: a tight end never was Mike Ditka, who had one thousand,

1106
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: seventies six yards and twelve touchdowns. I mean, you look

1107
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: across the board most other rookies, and I know this

1108
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: is sort of a trope, but there's a truism behind it.

1109
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: The rookie tight ends just don't produce that way, So

1110
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: he's not a normal tight end. To be fair, I

1111
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: think I think he could get to nine dred of thousands.

1112
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: So if you, if you had put it right a

1113
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: little lower, I might, I might I go under. But

1114
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: I think that he's going to be different. I mean

1115
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: there's no question about that. So last year Waller, who

1116
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: was very I think I think that's the closest comp right.

1117
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: It's it's just an impossible cover. He almost operates like

1118
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: a wide receiver as opposed to a tight end, just

1119
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: so athletically gifted for his size. Last year, Waller did

1120
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: a hundred and seven catches for eleven nineties, six and

1121
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns. But again he was targeted DDT five times.

1122
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: I didn't look it up. I would guess the next

1123
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: highest targeted receiver was probably Agalore, like eight five targets

1124
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean, car was a part

1125
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: of out, so you got Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley. I

1126
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: just don't man, that seems high to me. Still. You

1127
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: know what if Julio Jones is still in the building, Yeah,

1128
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: if he's moved targets. Uh, how about Nause Harris. Okay,

1129
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: new Steelers running back. He's gonna be locked and loaded

1130
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: and be a big part of that offense you you

1131
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: expect as a first round pick. Running back James Conner

1132
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: is in Arizona. Now, I'll set it atven total yards

1133
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: and seven and a half touchdowns. I'll go over. I'm

1134
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: sure fantasy people who were like all down and don't

1135
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: waste the first round pick on running back, Oh that

1136
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: that lasts as long as as you're in your fantasy

1137
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: draft and you're like, who else is getting three touches

1138
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Naja Harris to me, was on a

1139
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: short list, I'd go I'd go over him and Pitts.

1140
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: I think I have a decent chance to you know,

1141
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: be underdog offensive rookie of the year. Guys, even with

1142
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks, I'll go over too, because I mean,

1143
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor surpassed the numbers you mentioned last year, and

1144
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna use them all day long, starting

1145
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: right away. And I think that you know, you could

1146
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: also examine what the over under would be in terms

1147
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: of receiving yards because he's he's a dual threatened so

1148
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: I think he has a great chance to be Rookie

1149
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: of the Year. I'd agree, you gotta ben, he can

1150
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: barely move hand the ball to the guy a lot

1151
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: a lot of those smoke routes, just you know, I agree,

1152
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up. You know, the one

1153
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: thing about Taylor is that he was behind the best

1154
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: offensive line in the league, you know, and I think

1155
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers look like they might have one of the

1156
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: what ten worst at this point, So that would be

1157
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: the only concern, especially for someone that was running behind

1158
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: the offensive lines that he's been running behind his entire

1159
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: time in college. At the same time, there's like a

1160
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: flip side of that, right, Alabama's got this great offensive line,

1161
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: but you're also dealing with just incredible athletes size, speed

1162
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: ratio in the SEC, so he knows what it's like

1163
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: to have to absorb I think darn close to NFL

1164
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: contact at the d line linebacker level, and he broke

1165
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: a ton of tackles, So I'm with you. I think

1166
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: it's a hey, clean sweep, got the over and I'll

1167
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: do one more and then if anyone else has one, uh,

1168
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: please throw it out. Rashade Bateman, okay, first round pick

1169
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: of the Ravens. A lot of conversation that he is

1170
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: going to be exactly what they needed to get their

1171
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: passing game going well. According to this over under, I'm

1172
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: not totally buying it. Fifteen and a half catches, seven yards,

1173
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: three and a half, T D S three and a half,

1174
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: that's me. I'll go push. I think that you nailed that.

1175
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: I think you nailed the exact line. You keep the

1176
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna have fifty and a half catches, and I

1177
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: think i'd go under two um at least for the

1178
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: yards in the in the catches that's at I feel

1179
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: like six D and fifty yards and forty five catches

1180
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: would be a success for a rookie receiver in that

1181
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: in that system. Come in, be part of the solution,

1182
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: and you don't have to light the world on fire.

1183
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: I feel like if I take the under, I'm going

1184
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: to be attacked for negative Lamar Jackson commentary, So uh,

1185
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't feel like getting it. I'm already gonna get

1186
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: attacked by the anti bactors. I don't want to get

1187
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: two groups coming after me after this podcast, So I'll

1188
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: go over. Lamar Jackson canal throw outside the numbers as

1189
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: accurate as any quarterback in history. I'm going over to

1190
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: be fair Hollywood Brown five d at eighty four yards

1191
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: and seven touchdowns this rookie season, seven sixty nine and

1192
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: eight his second. I think maybe Bateman is viewed a

1193
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: little more complete than than that. I think you set

1194
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: the number right around right right where it should be

1195
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: over alright there? Anybody have one to throw out them?

1196
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: So I have I have one too quick, dan Esque

1197
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: ones because you were nice enough to offer them to us. UM,

1198
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: so you can just you don't have to analyze it.

1199
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Just go over under landon Dickerson, your boy over under

1200
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: two sacks allowed, two sacks allowed? UM, I don't think.

1201
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how else tweet Judges,

1202
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he's gonna allow any

1203
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: sacks out of the pivot in Philly this year over

1204
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: seventeen stars. Alright, how about this, Robert Sala This has

1205
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: to be captured on UM Broadcast Network. UM footage two

1206
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two fist bumps during the regular season

1207
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: over under two. So that's you know, a little over

1208
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: a week, you know, twelve a week or something. That's

1209
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: a pretty big number. He might get injured. Um, so

1210
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under. Yeah. The camera found its way

1211
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: to Salah more often than any other player on the

1212
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: forty niners during his final couple of seasons there, so

1213
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: I think the cameras will be trained on Sala than it.

1214
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: Just I think the Jets defense isn't gonna be good

1215
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: enough this year. They didn't address the ball, that's side

1216
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: of the ball. I think it's gonna be a little

1217
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: bumpy as they try to figure some things out. So

1218
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the under. There m not enough

1219
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: to fist bump about. How about over under? Well, it's

1220
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: not really an over under. It's an either or. Uh.

1221
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: Your boy Wilson has got more interceptions than touchdowns. Are

1222
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: more touchdowns than interceptions, Zack Wilson, by the way, I mean,

1223
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. Well, go ahead, dan Is, I know

1224
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: where you're going. Greg. Um, let's see. I it's too

1225
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm so conditioned to the failure at this position that

1226
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: I would get us. What's gonna probably happen is he's

1227
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna have an up and down season. He's gonna have

1228
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: plenty of doubts around him, but I just want to

1229
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: live in the realm of optimism. I'm gonna say he's

1230
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: gonna go positive. We also, you've got a Mike Lafloor

1231
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: offense that came from the brain of Kyle Shanahan, which

1232
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: is a quarterback friendly. You're not gonna put quarterbacks into

1233
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 1: worlds of total chaos. It would be a huge disappointment

1234
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: if you threw more picks than touchdowns. So I just

1235
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: I can't see that world touchdowns one. It's hard to

1236
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: do that at this point. And Josh Allen did it

1237
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: his rookie season. He had he had more interception, but

1238
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: that's it's pretty rare. I mean, when that happens to

1239
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: a veteran like Jamis, it's like you become a punchline.

1240
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, no, the NFL is it's too

1241
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: hard to throw that many interceptions. I think he'll be

1242
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: fine accurate quarterback to we're talking about, yeah, you like

1243
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: nineteen and thirteen or something like. I was gonna say, like,

1244
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: they're back up. We just talked about this last week.

1245
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: Their backup quarterback right now is like Delta Burke, I

1246
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: don't even know if they have a crack up quarterback

1247
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: on the time. I don't know if you knew this.

1248
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: By the way, Delta Burke still a lot still were throwing.

1249
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: Are we throwing Mac Jones over? Under? I'm gonna set it.

1250
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set it at seven and a half. Maybe

1251
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: that's too low, but I don't care. I'm going over.

1252
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm because I'm going what I'm rooting for. I really

1253
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: think they're gonna try to make this work with Cam Newton,

1254
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: and they're only gonna go to and they're only gotta

1255
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: go to Mac Jones if is truly not going well,

1256
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: which is certainly, you know possible after watching last year's off,

1257
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: going over, you're going over. I I just I just

1258
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: don't believe in almost any veteran quarterback when a first

1259
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: round quarterback is being brought onto the roster. And I

1260
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: don't also don't believe that we're gonna get Cam Newton

1261
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: from four years ago right just because they added a

1262
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: couple of tight ends. He threw eight touchdown past his

1263
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: last year. This cannot be understated. Overstated eight touchdowns in

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: fifteen starts in the NFL in twenty. It's almost impossible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is almost. Oh, I got one more. Uh, let's

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Speaker 1: go um. I can't do better season. I think that's

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Speaker 1: too tough. But who has who has better numbers? DeVante

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01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: Smith or Jalen Waddle. I go Smith for sure, I

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01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: think better opportunity versus tongue about loa. Yeah, that's fair,

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: but there's more. There's more mouse to feed in Miami,

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Speaker 1: and Waddle seems like he's going to be more like

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Speaker 1: a big, big playmaker DeVante Smith maybe catch us some

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Speaker 1: more short routes. He looks like the number one in Philly,

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Speaker 1: Whereas battles like, yeah, I'll go Smith. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: you know, you could argue for either. I'm going Smith.

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Speaker 1: Smith is the goal for me too. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna They're gonna really work to make that the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver prospect that actually plays out how the Eagles

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Speaker 1: want to, Whereas maybe it's gonna take some time down

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Speaker 1: in Miami. And I'm also like that's sold on toa

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Speaker 1: I know that's not a very popular opinion, but not

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you, Dan, I feel like that's

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01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: a totally popular opinion. He was totally buried all last season,

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Speaker 1: there was very few people. You're gonna get attacked, Chad's

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01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna come slight your scalp for that. I just think

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01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: there's and there were reasons for the excuses, and they

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01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: were all valid for the most part. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: like killing him saying he can't play. But it's just

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01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: like that was not a fun guy to watch as

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01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: a rookie. Uh. The assumption that a few months of

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01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: the calendar passes and some other players are involved, the

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01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: old sudden He's gonna be dynamic. Maybe it will be.

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Speaker 1: We gotta see it. Yeah, I'm all right, I'm out.

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Speaker 1: If anybody else has any I'm all set. Anybody else good?

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Speaker 1: All right, real quick, real quick, alright, I got one more. Sorry,

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: I know, I said over under, over under. Podcast hosts

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Speaker 1: that have a cornhole board hanging on their wall set

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Speaker 1: it at one and a half over under any podcast,

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Speaker 1: any podcast hosts anywhere in their home, not a lot

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01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: like a studio where they do podcast. This is my house.

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Speaker 1: It is in their home, a cornhole board hanging on

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Speaker 1: their wall. Confidently going over because I mean, I don't

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: know what we're what is the what kind of like

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: it could be anyone with a podcast and they call

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01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: themselves the host of it. We only need to find

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01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: one more in the entire on the entire globe for

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Speaker 1: that to be. You find guys, if you guys listening

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01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: to the show, and you host the podcast, and you

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: have a cornhole board there, let us know. There we go.

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Speaker 1: I'm going over taking it over comfortably. Just think about

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Speaker 1: like the Midwest alone, all I would imagine our thousands

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Speaker 1: of college football podcasts we were, we were down on

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Speaker 1: the cornhole boards everywhere. But it's it's supposed to be played.

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Speaker 1: It's not a decoration. It's like it's it's a you know,

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01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: nothing's no. This is what's great about it. It's it's functionality.

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01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: I used I just used it a week ago. I

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Speaker 1: just pulled it off the board, took it out front,

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Speaker 1: through some bags, put it back. So not only is

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Speaker 1: the decoration use, it's getting mileage. That's like you know, money.

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Speaker 1: You could go play the records behind you on a

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: record player if you needed to, so I think it

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: would ruin your stylus. I think you would immediately via

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01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: the record store. Brunners. And by the way, they do

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01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: have lines in them. I almost wonder if it is

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: and crack it open. Yeah, there's tracks on the front

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Speaker 1: side and there are six tracks there, so I don't know,

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Speaker 1: there's only one way to find that. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's also a nod money to the great Chris Westling

1329
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: who introduced us to Cornell. And also, um, it should

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Speaker 1: be noted that the go fund me for the Westling

1331
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: family Lakish and Link is hitting the three hundred thousand

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01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: dollar mark and that is a testament all the amazing

1333
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Speaker 1: fans of this show and everyone who loved west Uh. So,

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Speaker 1: that is great and it's still out there if you

1335
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: want to um hit it. Um, you can find it

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Speaker 1: on our social media accounts. And thank you to everyone

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01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: that's contributed. That is awesome. Hidding me fantastic. That's not

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Speaker 1: for you, Mark, stay away from it, okay, Nor am

1339
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: I attempting to take hold of it. I'm I'm very

1340
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: glad where it's going. So we get we gotta play

1341
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: some some bags, you know this uh this offseason, Mark

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01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: and I were down at Colleen and Gonzos. They don't

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01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: they just there's a movement. They don't like the name

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: cornhole and they just call it like you know, bags

1345
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: or bagoo. Yeah, I think that like all those all

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: Gonzo's Philly got friends. You know, they all called Bago bag.

1347
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Chicago's bags. But either way, I kind of

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01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I like the idea of bags. I like

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01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: the idea of bags. The name cornhole, it's fair, it's

1350
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: a fair point. Everyone's just so, everyone's so like worried

1351
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 1: about saying something offensive. Everyone's taking to a certain place.

1352
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: I think with cornhole, it's not it's not that things.

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: But you knew that thing? Yea do you mean that

1354
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: you first? So I don't knows And butthead okay, yeah,

1355
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: I don't know you. You're gonna have to explain that

1356
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: one to me, Dan, maybe you could do it right now?

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01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: What do the what do the Philadelphians call it? Oh?

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01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: Please play some bago big thumbs down in the bag bag.

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: I like bags, that's good. Awes some corn throw some

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: corn throw some corn. Okay, Well, I know where you

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: can find a board if you need one. Hit me up. Money.

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01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: You've said it all and we uh. I love when

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: you're on the show. I always love it anytime, guys.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got petrols of money is coming up? Right?

1365
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: All good? Yeah? Every day and I believe Money is like,

1366
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: I'm scheduled to talk for three hours today. That's not enough.

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01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: I want for four four hours. Let's let's try to

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Speaker 1: find another couple of hours, right, Money. I believe we

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Speaker 1: have power rankings on NFL Network this week as well

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01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: we do Thursday. I believe the old Zeus are gonna

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Speaker 1: make the debut, so I will. He will service his

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: foil find us on the design. Yeah, that's what makes

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01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: good TV. Battle him. He's he's put the Jets at

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Speaker 1: number eight, and I don't I find that to be

1375
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: a little bit out of bound. I said, Dan, that's

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: way too low their top five team for me. It's

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Speaker 1: why we're in the green today because I'm I'm a

1378
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: big Jets believer. There we go, There we go. All right,

1379
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: good stuff, all right, we'll be back. Like Greg said, Wednesday,

1380
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: are just gonna have some fun. We've got the schedule

1381
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: least dropping, so we're gonna have some analysis on that,

1382
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: including revenge games. And Greg, you gave me a good

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: idea for an NFL dot com piece that I have

1384
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: to write. Uh spicier avenge with the bills involved. Uh,

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: So be back Wednesday. Check us out NFL Network show

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01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: Back Friday, and Yes, Me and Money on Power Ranking's

1387
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: on Thursday. A lot coming up. Stan has a signing

1388
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: off for a Quiet Storm the old Boss Money, star

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01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: of the hit Micro say money on money and of

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01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: course Ricky Hollywood behind the glass. Was that dot that

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Speaker 1: that on your spa