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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast starts now. According to NFL

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Speaker 1: media insider Ian Ra, Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by one Hero here in the studio and one Hero

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Speaker 1: on the phone live from Seattle. What is happening? Hey,

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Speaker 1: Dan did the one in Seattle? You're You're Dan. We're

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Speaker 1: all over the place. This is a different sort of show.

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Speaker 1: We've got Chris Westling here. We're taping this after the

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Speaker 1: Thursday night kickoff where the Seahawks took care of business

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Speaker 1: over Green Bay. Dan's in Seattle. He's gonna tell us

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Speaker 1: what he heard in the locker room, and then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go back a little earlier in our time machine

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Speaker 1: to where Mark Sessler was with us in preview each

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Speaker 1: and every game for Week one. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a big show. And by the way, right now, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking you from the now vacant Green Bay Packers coaching

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Speaker 1: box of the field, high above the Clink Century Link field,

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Speaker 1: and you could sense and smell the sorrow in the boot.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So that's the very spot where Dom Capers

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Speaker 1: was dialing up ineffective defenses for Green Bay today. I

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Speaker 1: could smell the teflon teflon dom I call him. Uh

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Let's talk first about the game,

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Speaker 1: and then Dan will get into your impressions of what

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Speaker 1: it was like to be there in the locker room

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Speaker 1: and everything. Um, we'll start with you, Dan, anything surprise

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Speaker 1: you about this game? Any big takeaways watching it, especially

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Speaker 1: as someone who I'm officially the first around the NFL

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Speaker 1: member to to lose a hero pick. I thought Packers

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Speaker 1: would be a close game. I thought this was a

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Speaker 1: field goal game. But as Chris Westling wrote on the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL page, already read his his peace on it,

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Speaker 1: which I really enjoyed. I mean, it's just kind of

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Speaker 1: were exposed in this game. Is not quite ready for

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Speaker 1: this stage anyway. I'm not ready to write the Packers up,

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Speaker 1: but it was deeply disappointing effort from a team that

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Speaker 1: I guess my takeaway is the Seahawks look like the

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Speaker 1: were a Super super Bowl contender, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: go back into Seattle again in January, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: end the same way this game ended. On the prior

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Speaker 1: podcast that I jokingly called it a must win game

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Speaker 1: for the Packers. But yeah, like the whole thing I

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Speaker 1: was thinking was this is such a good Packing team

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Speaker 1: now they're in a legitimately to have spots, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to win more games than the Seahawks. And how

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Speaker 1: many games those to lose? Three? Maybe four? That there

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to get to here. I mean that

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Speaker 1: it's a long, long season, and I hear you to me,

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Speaker 1: it said more about out the Seahawks then it really

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Speaker 1: did about the Packers. Uh, it just showed that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they were ready to go. The Seahawks have a habit

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Speaker 1: of embarrassing team, of making teams look like also rans.

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Speaker 1: They made the best high scoring offense in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't even get double digits against Seattle. So they

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Speaker 1: were primed. They were ready to go. Their offense, I

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Speaker 1: ready for that. But they weren't ready for that in

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Speaker 1: Week one. Doesn't mean they're not gonna be ready for

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Speaker 1: that later in the season. Well, they better hope the

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Speaker 1: Sure enough, we saw what happened. That's why we sent

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Speaker 1: you a seattle to get the inside goodies. That's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know. Marks was not the only intrepid quarter you do.

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Speaker 1: You are the only around the NFL writer with a

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Speaker 1: true journalism background. I believe that. If that's true, never

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Speaker 1: forget that. Uh. I just was impressed by the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: offense too. Maybe that's the thing that could be different

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch had huge holes to run through. It didn't

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Speaker 1: the threat of Percy Harvin going in motion on those

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Speaker 1: by you guys. The packer is very clearly sacrificed Boykin

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Speaker 1: today lined him up against Switchard Sherman left him on

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Speaker 1: if that's something we're gonna see other teams employee when

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Speaker 1: you have to beat Byron Maxwell, and they didn't. They

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Speaker 1: and Maxwell for doing this strategy. And why not, I

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Speaker 1: mean the sea It doesn't seem like it's a great

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Speaker 1: trade off for Seattle, but you're basically locking down half

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Speaker 1: But then I guess the stacked team. I guess there's

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? I went out of the field.

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Speaker 1: I thought. I was surprised when I picked up my

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Speaker 1: and it was so loud it almost moved dan hands hair,

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Speaker 1: but not quite. I mean, that's why he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: The whole phrase was exposed as as pretenders masquerading as

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Speaker 1: behind that. I would be worried that Eddie Lacy has

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Speaker 1: Chris Cornell, the Man's fifty years old still got the pipes.

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Speaker 1: Chris Cornell is indicative of being titled tire Seahawks organization

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Speaker 1: week one is when I made an impassioned speech that

427
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Speaker 1: this is the most underrated and best rivalry in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And you know what happened that week. I think half

429
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Speaker 1: of us picked the Falcons in that game, half of

430
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: us picked the Saints or so, and it came down

431
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Speaker 1: to the very last play of the game, Kenny Vaccaro

432
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: with a big breakup on Tony gunzaz or the Falcons

433
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: would have gone into the Superdome and won that game.

434
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: It was a thriller and America mystic because they're not

435
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: in on the NFC South will get in there. I

436
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: think they aren't in on it because you know outside,

437
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: who know what. People don't buy into the Falcons, even

438
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: when they were rolling into the NFC title game. I

439
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: think that there. You know, Dan has them as a

440
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: sneaky playoff team potentially this year. That's a that's a

441
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: smart pick, but I need to see their offensive line

442
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Speaker 1: get it done. Last year, the Saints had eight sacks

443
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: and sixteen quarterback hits on Ryan and two games. This

444
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: used to be one of the best rivalries in the NFL.

445
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: Now the Saints are a much better team than the Falcons. Well,

446
00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: I count a rivalry who plays good games against each other,

447
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Patriots. Their games are always boring.

448
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Falcon Saints was very entertaining even the Sunday afternoon. We'll

449
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: find out how entertaining it is when the Falcons can't

450
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: get a pass rush on Drew Brees and he passes

451
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Speaker 1: for four sixty yards and t s Yeah. I mean

452
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: this is an immediate ascid test for the Falcons because yes,

453
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Speaker 1: they have Julio Jones back. But you know, if we

454
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Speaker 1: believe that Andrew Luck can win games on a three

455
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 1: win team, I don't feel that way about any wide receiver.

456
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: You you look at Calvin Johnson in Detroit that hasn't

457
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Speaker 1: turned them into a winner. It doesn't that alone is

458
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: not going to do it. Atlanta lacks depth, and they

459
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: lack difference makers and some key areas. I think this

460
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: game will be closer than you think. Dan Hansis actually

461
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: picked the Falcons to win. He has a hero pick

462
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Speaker 1: on that game. Dan of course, not in the studio

463
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Speaker 1: today because he's up in Seattle. Uh. And that's right,

464
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: we already talked to him, So of course we all knew.

465
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Speaker 1: This is a good old fashioned start all of your

466
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Speaker 1: fantasy players in this game, because the Saints are gonna

467
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: jump out to a three touchdown lead. At least the

468
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: Falcons are gonna have to keep passing to keep up.

469
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the Falcons defense cannot stop the Saints offense.

470
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: You have been ripping the Falcons defense all offseason, I

471
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: hear you, But there's no way off. But it's in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Even last season where the Patriots, I mean, where the

473
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Speaker 1: Saints were so much better than Atlanta. Atlanta came into

474
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Speaker 1: their game and we didn't believe the Saints were that

475
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Speaker 1: good last year. They were a two win team though

476
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Speaker 1: Atlanta was When the two of them played, it was

477
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Speaker 1: I believe it was on Thursday Night football in that

478
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: game was seventeen, But it was close these two games.

479
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: They always scored sixteen fewer points on the road in

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Speaker 1: games last season. That's what I'm saying. Here's the thing.

481
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: I agree with West. I don't think we bought into

482
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Speaker 1: the Saints as a true power. We didn't and this

483
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: year though, I'm not worried. I'm not worried about what

484
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Speaker 1: points fewer were scored on the road. This is a

485
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: completely different team. I totally disagree. I think they're a

486
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: totally different team on the road until proven otherwise, because

487
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: they have always been a totally different team on the

488
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Speaker 1: road under Sean Payton and the crowd noise how us

489
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: a lot with Rob Ryan's defense or whatever it is.

490
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: That defense was not as effective last year on the road.

491
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: That's not an easy place to play. And to me,

492
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Speaker 1: if they go four and four on the road, this

493
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: where that's a big win. Like they're they're five and

494
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Speaker 1: three on the road type of team. But one thing

495
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: when it's a little bit shaded when we look at

496
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Speaker 1: the Saints that way and call them a bad road team,

497
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: for instance, because what a lot of good teams go

498
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: five and three or six and two at home, they

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Speaker 1: flat out just go eight and no. Right, that's the

500
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: disparity between the two is bigger, that's true. But last

501
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: year they really weren't. This is a different team. Okay,

502
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna I want them to prove. Banking on that,

503
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Speaker 1: I guess I have I'll believe it when I see it, like,

504
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: I think they're eleven or twelve win team, but I

505
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: don't think they're necessarily the best team in the NFL.

506
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Speaker 1: By the way, for listeners, when Greg is not rooting

507
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: for the Patriots, he is a closet Saints fan. Used

508
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: to be. Now his name is Mudd in New Orleans. No,

509
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: that's not true at all. It is never mad because

510
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: I didn't say that Drew Brees was a first ballot

511
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: All of Famer. You're not allowed on the float when

512
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: Mark and I are floating down whatever High Street or

513
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: whatever what street. Buddy, I was there, you know when

514
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl. Last time I will be

515
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: riding on. I was there when they won the Super Bowl.

516
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal quote for the Ages. I wrote about them

517
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: all week that year. I was loving it. I was

518
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: talking to the players, how great new world. Don't try

519
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: to turn this around on me. Well, we have flowed invitations,

520
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: you have none. I'm gonna pick the Chargers and the

521
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals as the game. Uh. That intrigues me. This is

522
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: the This is the best Monday Night Week one capper

523
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Speaker 1: since they started doing this about eight nine years ago.

524
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: I think it was ESPN as a double header on

525
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Monday night. It's usually an a f C West game.

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00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: It's like Raiders Chargers with nothing at stage, not even

527
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: in Week one actually some louder, lousy Raiders team. It's

528
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: usually a combination of the Raiders Chargers in Chiefs two

529
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: of those teams. But this year they have the Chargers,

530
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: who are more in treguing then they have been. I

531
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: don't know since since they were maybe since they were

532
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: a dominant best team in the league with with Danny

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00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: and Tomlins a number one seed. You know this is

534
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: different though we like them. They're a big time candidate

535
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: for the Team of a T L And you know

536
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: who else is the Arizona Cardinals. Two teams very intriguing.

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00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: Why what do you mean it's generous to call the

538
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals a real candidate for Team of a t They're

539
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: one of the four teams we sent through last time.

540
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: I've got a pocket veto. I think Wesleyan is telling

541
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: you he's gonna pull the lever and the floor is

542
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna open, and the Cardinals are just gonna fall right

543
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: through into the abyss. Thank you. That's exactly how it described. Well,

544
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: you know what could change your mind? Carson Palmer goes

545
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: out there and torches your precious little car. Actually, I

546
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: like the charge. I love both charges this year too.

547
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: I like them both. But what if Carson Palmer goes

548
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: out there three d and fifteen yards? Defense is flying around?

549
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: That's not a tough that's not an easy place. Who's

550
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: flying around? And then defense? Um, how about Patrick Peterson?

551
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: Potentially Las Campbell on the Move the Sticks podcast this week,

552
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's brand new podcast that him and TV are doing.

553
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: Didn't Daniel Jeremiah say one GM told him Patrick Peterson

554
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: top three defensive player in the league. It was J J.

555
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: Watt and Dumpkin, Sue and Patrick Peterson. So there there's

556
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: a guy you can get excited about and everyone should

557
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: download uh Daniel uh podcast. By the way, it's gonna

558
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast. Yeah, it's gonna be really awesome.

559
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that, although I'm not really that

560
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: excited that TV now has five podcasts in his arsenal.

561
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: He's already treating us kind of like the little sister.

562
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't care about us anymore. Good guy,

563
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's not that's not but ranked the podcast

564
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: that get you up in the morning. At least the

565
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: most DJ is at the top already. I think we're

566
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Speaker 1: ahead of Damna check though, no comment, guys, he doesn't.

567
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Speaker 1: Do you know what the name of our podcast is?

568
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Do you guys know what the name of yours? Around

569
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast? What if we just called it around

570
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: the NFL a more podcast? What do you think of that?

571
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: How would be differentiate between the television show? Who needs

572
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Speaker 1: to know? Yeah? Like, for example, they've already downloaded us

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Speaker 1: if they're listening Move the Sticks, It's called Move the

574
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: Sticks with Daniel Jeremyah, there's no podcasting. I like that,

575
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: nice cutting edge producing for our competition. Do we think

576
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: that Chargers defense when they match up against the Cardinals offense,

577
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: that they have the hosses in the secondary to stop

578
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald and Floyd and our guy John Brown. No.

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Speaker 1: I think this will be a very offense heavy game,

580
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: two very good offenses, and to suspect defenses. I think

581
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Speaker 1: the Chargers defense might actually better than the Cardinals right now,

582
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: I could see that. I think the Chargers defense has potential.

583
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Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons I like them, Freney. They're

584
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Speaker 1: getting a lot of people back from injury, it's it's

585
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Speaker 1: not an untalented defense. It never really made that much

586
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: sense that they struggled really a talented defense. I would

587
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Speaker 1: say it's about average Westling. Let's just say that. You know,

588
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: sometimes these things happen. The Cardinals go out against a

589
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: frisky Chargers offense, hold them to nine points, right, and

590
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: you see some young players that start to get your engine,

591
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, roaring, And then on the flip side, Arizona's

592
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: offense looks like a house on fire. Would you reconsider

593
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: this team of around the NFL. No, it's a team

594
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: of a t L team of a t L label.

595
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: Would they be back in the wheelhouse for you? Absolutely?

596
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: I am an open minded guy. I like that this

597
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: is a big game for a team of eight autom

598
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: Is this almost an elimination game? Could? I don't know.

599
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case, because we might

600
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: not pick up team next week. If the Chargers lose

601
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: a close game, it's not going to eliminate. It will

602
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: come hours after Pittsburgh gives up forty two points to

603
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: a Josh Gordon free Brown's offense. Well, if you were

604
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: writing headlines for a New York based newspaper, you would

605
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: call this a must win game for for anybody in

606
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Week one, because that's when you start calling things must

607
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: win games. In New York. It is a must win

608
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: game for them playing against the Raiders. If if this

609
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense, by the way, is as bad as you've

610
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: said it is all off season, my guy, Philip Rivers

611
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: should just tear them up. I have not said it's bad.

612
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: Last year, they were top three NFL defense. I just

613
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be about six now, and that's a

614
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: steep steep fall. I think you've underrated Darryl Washington and

615
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: Carlos Dansby. I think those two losses are way more

616
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: important than Darnell Dockett. But if their offense can bump

617
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: up significantly, then that still looks as the makings of

618
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: and I think the receivers can. I don't think Carson

619
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Speaker 1: Palmer has it in him to play any better than

620
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: he did down the stretch last year. Well, I have

621
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: a little theory that Carson Palmer. I don't think he's

622
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Speaker 1: going to play as well as Philip Rivers did last year,

623
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Speaker 1: but I think he If you're looking for a career

624
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: renaissance guy in the in his thirties, Carson Palmer is

625
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: your Philip Rivers. That's the horse you're gonna ride as

626
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: an improving player. You for four thousand yards with three

627
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Speaker 1: different teams, and arians of the combine said he will

628
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: play in hill. He's what thirty eight or something. The

629
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: Browns quarterbacks combined to throw for four thousands. They don't seasons.

630
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: They took three human beings. Well, everyone should stay up

631
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: watch this game. It's a great one. Now let's get

632
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: to the rest of them. We still have many games

633
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: to go. We'll go through the rest of them a

634
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: little bit quicker. Let's start with Cincinnati Baltimore. Love that

635
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: the a f C North started with division games right

636
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: off the top. Uh, By the way, we should we

637
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: should mention our picks in the other games. Dan was

638
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Speaker 1: the only one who took the Falcons. I took the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals to win. Who who did you guys take? I

640
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: believe I took the Chargers, realizing the Cardinals were among

641
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: the best home teams in the NFL. I just think

642
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: that the Charges are a little bit stronger this year.

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Speaker 1: I do not recall I was in a mental haze

644
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Speaker 1: when I made my pick. I think you took the

645
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: Cardinals I'm looking at it. Yeah, you took the Cardinals.

646
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: Dan and Patrick Bull took the Chargers, So we were

647
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: split pretty evenly on that one. That is a question.

648
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Everyone took the Broncos. Everyone took the Broncos. That was

649
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: that was an easy call. In this game, Dan was

650
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: the only one in Bengals Ravens. Dan's the only one

651
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: who took the Bengals, which is a surprise because this

652
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: feels like a coin flip game, but it's in Baltimore.

653
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: What is it about the Ravens this year that you

654
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: think they'll be a little bit better. I think that

655
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: we'll see. You know, we've talked about this before, but

656
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: improvements on offense because I think Joe Flacco will be

657
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: used to his successful abilities better under Kubiak. I think

658
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: Kubac is a guy that can come in, you know,

659
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: you don't need a full season to get that offense

660
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: chimed up. I think that he'll do a nice job

661
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: with him early. Ray Rice when he's back, looks lighter, healthier.

662
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: He won't play in this game, though, But but Pierce

663
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: is healthy too, and that wasn't the case for one

664
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Speaker 1: or the other all last season. You know how much

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Speaker 1: On the website, you can go and find uh all

668
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Speaker 1: our picks. It's called the Around the NFL Power Picks.

669
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: It's got every game pick. But then we have one game,

670
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Speaker 1: and it has to be a game where it's not

671
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Speaker 1: a big heavy favorite anything like that, where you feel

672
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: a special lead, confident, and you felt confident about the Ravens.

673
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: There was like a corporate robot staring me down, saying

674
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: do something and writing it must be two sentences. I

675
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: picked this game. Andy Dalton has a lower completion percentage

676
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: against the a f C North than Brandon Weeden. That

677
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: is a nice bit of minutia and and I like it.

678
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a coin flip game. Since

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00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: John Harball took over, the Ravens are right there with

680
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Is the best home team in the NFL.

681
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: And as we mentioned a couple of podcasts ago, I'm

682
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: buying into this offensive improvement. I like what I've seen.

683
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: And all these fantasy football guys who think that Tory

684
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: Smith is Andre Johnson because he's playing that role, I

685
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: think Steve Smith might lead this team in receiving. Wow,

686
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: I hope not interesting because we saw so An Kwan

687
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Balden leaves and number week one last year for the Niners.

688
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: How many catches you have thirteen or some wi What

689
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Speaker 1: if Smith has to emerge as it was a huge,

690
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: huge contributor to this I think he can. I really

691
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: like the Ravens in this game too. And for everyone

692
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: that's gotten after me for ranking Andy Dalton and so

693
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: low in my first Quarterback index that goes up every

694
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: week where we ranked the quarterbacks? Where did you rank them?

695
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Just watch? So where do people want them? You know

696
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: they're an unnamed reporter in Miami called me ridiculous or

697
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: something that I had Ryan tannehill Over. I've read that

698
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: unnamed reporter for seven or eight years now, and if

699
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: that guy was calling me ridiculous, it would make me

700
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: feel a lot more confident about my opinion. I feel

701
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: like I finally made it. But yeah, there's a reason

702
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: they call it the After Dalton scale because he is

703
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: the prime meridian. He is the measuring stick for all

704
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: of their quarterbacks. He's very mediocre and he stinks in

705
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: the division and he's gonna stink in this game? Alright,

706
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Bears. This is a fun one,

707
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: or it is. Who would you rather have on your

708
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: schedule than the Bills in Chicago? Reminds me of their

709
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: Week one last year. They totally drubbed the Colts. Do

710
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: you remember that game? They won by about thirty points.

711
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: Shows that you can't take Week one too seriously. What

712
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: do we think about this Bill's Bears game? Does Buffalo

713
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: have any chance? I would like to see the Bills

714
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: just turned the offense over to Kyle Orton and then

715
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: this is his homecoming to Soldier Field. Now, that would

716
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: get me excited Buffalo with I think their whole thing

717
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: with e j. Manuel last year was we're gonna be

718
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: one of the fastest offenses in football. I think they

719
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: ran the third most plays and I think Football eight

720
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: sleutters have them as the second fastest team behind the Eagles.

721
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: But it didn't translate, did it it. There's just not

722
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: a lot of moments we can remember from Buffalo's offense

723
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: that were keeper moments. It was. I guess they had

724
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: a nice comeback against Carolina Panthers in that one game,

725
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: but it's just really few and far between and this

726
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: has to be for a loyal fan base. One of

727
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: the more depressing teams right now, just because you already

728
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: look at the quarterback situation with the guy that you

729
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: took a first round pick on. It seems lost. And yes,

730
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: it will be better for Order to be in there.

731
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: I think that's a better quarterback, But it's it's a

732
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: pressing situation for a team it already gave up its

733
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: first round pick. They they can play fast, but they

734
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: don't play well and there's no proof that they know

735
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: how to run an offense. But there is talent here.

736
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got Cordy Glenn, they've got pretty good receivers,

737
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: they've got a nice running back group, got a good defense,

738
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: and they've got a great matchup. I mean, the Bears

739
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: defense was among the worst in the league. If E j.

740
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: Manuel was ever going to get off to a decent start,

741
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't this be the game? Yeah? I mean if we

742
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: think we know everything based on the preseason, and then

743
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: the regular season usually tells us we know nothing. It's

744
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: a great matchup on the other side of the ball too.

745
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean, trustman, were expecting that offense to be better.

746
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: It's a pretty tough Week one matchup, and we don't

747
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: really know how different this Bill's defense is going to

748
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: be under Jim Schwartz, but it's still a very talented defense.

749
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: With that said, we all took the Bears. I get

750
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: very tired by the way this is cropped up in

751
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: the last few weeks of all this Jake Cutler breakout season.

752
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: The guy has been in the league for a long time.

753
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: There is no breakout season. He thrives against teams. I mean,

754
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: statistically he's very good against lesser competition. But well, he

755
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: could have his best season in a long time. Why not,

756
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: because I'm with you. I read Jay Cutler breakout Season

757
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: every year. It's just very with the same articles over

758
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: and over. It depends if you're talking breakout in reality

759
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: or fantasy. Because he did have that one year if

760
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: you remember where he had about forty hundred yards in

761
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: Denver with Mike Shanahan. They lost all the games at

762
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: the end of the year, and then Shanahan got fired,

763
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: but Cutler was lightening it up back then until the

764
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: game's got important. He twenty two and two against sub

765
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: five teams and then going this is going to be

766
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: a sub five hundred team. He's playing Yeah, and then

767
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: he started crying, and so I can't play in Denver anymore.

768
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: You have to tweet I was stopping. I got the

769
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Bears in the playoffs, and the playoff March begins this

770
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Bills. Uh, let's talk about the Redskins Texans.

771
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: It's funny. When we were thinking about this game back

772
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: in April, I remember thinking, how this is gonna be

773
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: really intriguing. You know, r G three making his comeback

774
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: under a new coach. You got the number one pick

775
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: in the draft. At the time, I thought it would

776
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: maybe be a quarterback. Now this game is a little

777
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: under the radar, but it's two teams. We don't really

778
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna get. What what do you think

779
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get in this game? I saw a quote

780
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: from r G three this week, something along lines of

781
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: you guys are just gonna have to wait and see

782
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: what we've got secrets that were ready to unleash. All right.

783
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: I like that, and and for a minute I was

784
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: buying in, like, yeah, you know what, they've been holding

785
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: back again for the second time in three years. And

786
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: then I thought about it. I'm like, this guy's trying

787
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: to convince himself. I think he just needs to show

788
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: average play fundamentals like he does not need to be

789
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: That's why you traded multiple number one picks for average.

790
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: I just think to win this game, that's all he's

791
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: gotta do. I think I've seen the way Jadevi and

792
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: Clowney hits, and I've seen the way Robert Griffin the

793
00:40:53,480 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: third slides. That's true, clown it could be Clowney versus

794
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: Trent Williams for part of that game. That's a pretty

795
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: good silverback. That's a pretty good match. A good looking

796
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: pass rush for Washington going up against Dwayne Brown, and

797
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: we really don't know what this offense is gonna be. Like,

798
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: this is a sneaky interesting game. It's actually a game

799
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: I think I want to take for that one o'clock

800
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: spot because or at least I know i'll watch right

801
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: away during the week. Because these are two teams I

802
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: really have no idea about it, because they have new coaches,

803
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: new offenses. I took the Texans in this game. I

804
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: didn't overthink it too much. I just think these are

805
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: two pretty bad teams, so I took the home team.

806
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: People have undersold the fact that Cushing is back as well.

807
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's got a lot of injuries, but

808
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: it's always Watton Clowney. Wait a minute, you got the

809
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: third piece right here. That is very Tannel's point. Mark,

810
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: you took the Texans as well. Well, you know two

811
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: years in a row the team that's picked number one

812
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: overall has gone onto the playoffs. That seems coincident. How

813
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: many of those teams had Ryan Fitzpatrick has there. I

814
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: am not predicting that to happen this year. This game

815
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: smells like twelve to nine Texans that billow'brien offense unleashed

816
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: for nine points. Mark, Mark and I were we were outvoted, though.

817
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, Dan and Chris all took the Redskins. Chris

818
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: uh thinks the Redskins could be sneaky at least be

819
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: in the mix this year as a halfway decent team.

820
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm not nearly convinced of that. It's just something I say.

821
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: Titans Chiefs another game which isn't going to get America

822
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: excited yet. I actually am intrigued to see because I

823
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: want to see Jake Locker under Ken wizzen Hunt. What

824
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: are you guys looking for in this game? I'm looking

825
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: to see how bid the Chief's offensive line is. If

826
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: they're just adequate or if they are going to be

827
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: like a season long problem. That that would be one

828
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: thing I'll be looking for. Say hello to Darrell Casey,

829
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: hy case Well, you know the Chiefs. This Titans defense,

830
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: this Titans team really is generic. It's not just that

831
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: they're the Titans. They really are generic on paper. But

832
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: they do have a lot of defensive players that at

833
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: least you know that who knows, maybe they could be

834
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: halfway decent. Derreck Morrigan, Darrell Casey, Cameron Wimbley, a key

835
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Mayor's they're all moving to new positions. Sean Phillips. It's

836
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: just like a lot of positions they weren't drafted to

837
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: be And you want to talk about a twelve ten game, right,

838
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: That just feels like that I could see that. And

839
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: Ray Horton, their defensive coordinator, is a guy that we

840
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: couldn't have loved more the last couple of years, and

841
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about him at all in terms

842
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: of his ability to turn around this defense. Well, you

843
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: know one thing last year in Cleveland, everyone felt he

844
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: was going to flip the switch by the end of

845
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: the year. That was not a good defense. Now I

846
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: think they underperformed significantly and that's probably why we haven't.

847
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: He leaves his cornerbacks on an island, which could be

848
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: an issue for a team that lost alter on Verner

849
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: and now it's starting Bleedy Ray Wilson. Yeah, it's not.

850
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Both both of these teams look bad to me. I

851
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: think this bleed else It sounds like one of those

852
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: guys that Mark made up down at the desk. If

853
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: you're in your team keeper league that uses defense in

854
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: a dynasty scenario, you want to get Bleedy Ray Wilson

855
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: in your roster. Back came up with Wiggy Van Vleet.

856
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: Once again, Mark and I on the same page. We

857
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: both took the Titans, who are significant underdog. I guess

858
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to take at least one

859
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: big underdog every week or else it's not fun. This

860
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: week it was the Titans going to Kansas City. Chris,

861
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: you took the Chiefs. You're feeling confident the home I'd

862
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: take the home team in this game, and I am

863
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: in a I'm intrigued by Jake Locker, but I'm gonna

864
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: believe that when I see it mode with him. Right

865
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have the better quarterback. I think the Titans

866
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: have the better offensive line. Who has the better quarterback

867
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: guru running the team? Good question. I would go Andy Reid.

868
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: He has a longer history. I think you have to

869
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: go with any After a couple months, we're gonna look

870
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: back and say he's done a lot with this offense.

871
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: I think we're gonn look back and say he does

872
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: a lot when he gets a veteran quarterback, he's already

873
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: been established, but he can't develop a younger quarterback. Well,

874
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: he never really had a good young quarterback in Arizona.

875
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Was always John Skelton and Matt Winer and do not

876
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: Max Hall Derek Anderson, by the way, so take that back.

877
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: The police didn't underestimate Max saw This week he was

878
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: arrested for something or other. I know what it was,

879
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna say Dolphins before you move on,

880
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: who you got westling By Wilson or DeMarcus Van Dyke

881
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Bleedy Ray Wilson's a better name. DeMarcus Van Dyke sounds

882
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: like uh Will Smith went into a nineteen fifties sitcom.

883
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: I like that. Dolphins Patriots Another game where Dan Hansis

884
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: has a hero pick because he's insane. No, he took

885
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The rest of us took took the Patriots.

886
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: And as a Patriots fan, I think you look at

887
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: this game and you think this is the worst time

888
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: to go down there. That it's very hot. The Patriots

889
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: needing percentage under Bill Belichick is way lower in September

890
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: than it is the rest of the season. They traditionally

891
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: improve as you go, So if you're Miami, this is

892
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: a good time to get the Patriots. The rest I

893
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: checked Bill Belichick wasn't concerned about hot temperatures in a

894
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: September game. Greg, you're trying to undersell New England. They've

895
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: won what leven straight ten plus win seasons. They've never

896
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: had real trouble with Miami outside of a here in

897
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: this that's not sure. The dolphinsive often been trouble for

898
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and company. Maybe not the last few years.

899
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, not in not in the recent incarnation.

900
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: I I don't see. Here's the one thing. Miami doesn't

901
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: get a lot of attention in their offense. We don't

902
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: know what they what they have planned entirely. That could

903
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: create some problems. I just don't see New England losing

904
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: the game. Though, I have stumbled onto a pattern in

905
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: the hero picks here. Remember last year Mark kind of

906
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: went off into the desert for a week, came back

907
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: and he picked like four or five hero picks that

908
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: didn't make much sense and one pretty comment killed season.

909
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: Dan took a few weeks off, come back and he

910
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: picks like five hero picks right off the back, most

911
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: of which don't make sense, including this one. Right, I

912
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: think all that time away, we aren't firing well. The

913
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: connective tissue was also when you have a human being

914
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: under the age of six months in your house, waking

915
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: up every three hours, you start to do things that

916
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: don't make sense from an adult level, your hypothesis makes

917
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: more sense than mind. Well. Mars was a change in

918
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: form because for those just tuning in, Mark was the

919
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: champion of our first ever Picks competition, ran away with it,

920
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: did a great job, and then corenkoream down. Greg was

921
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: very angry about it that I was very upset. Mark

922
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: made me feel better by coming in dead last last year. Dan,

923
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: on the other hand, he struggled both the years, so

924
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: maybe he's just looking to get out of that and

925
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: make sounds like dance in his own head. He's got

926
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: a little RG three action went on right now. I

927
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: give him courage. He's picked some wild ones out of

928
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: the gate and at the he hits on him. Wow,

929
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: the boss's bosses here. The Raiders and Jets next on

930
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: the thing. Wow, my boss has stepped into the room.

931
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: A shadowy figure has entered the building. Would you like

932
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: to come on the podcast, John Marvel? My uh, my

933
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: boss has stepped in for the first time ever. I'm

934
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: feeling a little intimidated right now, a little nervous, and

935
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: he's just come in. He's he's going to remain shadowy.

936
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: He has made his stance clear on the toaster. By

937
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: the way, we haven't talked about this in a while.

938
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: And uh, when Greg's toaster is a game that he

939
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: says I need to defend, it needs to happen again soon.

940
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: I've just been enjoying the trophy toaster. He also said,

941
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: no Tomato cans what No no Tomato. I'm gonna do

942
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: what Wesley did, face a bunch of very weak competition

943
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: and keep that that is a consult. That is an

944
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: insult to the people we squared off against. I think

945
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Marvel is of sound mind here. We're not gonna just

946
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: let you sit on this throne unchallenged. Month after months,

947
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm uster Douglas. After Tokyo, Baby, I'm going around the world.

948
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: I'm meeting women, I'm eating well, I'm getting fat. I'm

949
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: about to have a subpar video game release in your honor.

950
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the Jets and Raiders.

951
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: A little frisk gear game here with Derek Carr starting

952
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: for Oakland. Do we give them a legit shot to

953
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: win this game? No, it's a tough one. I mean,

954
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: I guess what everyone immediately was like, Oh, if you've

955
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: got the if you don't have the Jets defense and fantasy,

956
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: you go pick them up right now. Okay, except there's

957
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: no secondary. I would I would definitely pick up the

958
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Jets defense. And I get it. It's just that part

959
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: of the reason the Jets were the Jets for so

960
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: long was that secondary and the press corners that Ryan

961
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: had to do what he needs to do. They will

962
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: be challenged and it's gonna it's a rough It's a

963
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: rough start for Derek Carr, no question, but I think

964
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: it's a It's a much more interesting game than we

965
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: would have had the shop thing worked in our fashion.

966
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: Here football fans got a better game. We this is

967
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: a more talented roster than it was a year ago

968
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: in Oakland. We all picked the Jets in this game,

969
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: so we it's one of the games that we totally

970
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: agree on. And yet I do think this is gonna

971
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: be a tough game for the Jets. I think Dennis

972
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: Allen is a better coach than Chris says. He might

973
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: not be good dealing with the media, but he's gotten

974
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: the most out of his talent. He's got more talent. Now,

975
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: these two teams aren't that in balanced in terms of talent.

976
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets are very talented either when

977
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: they're talented on the defensive line the Raiders. The Raiders

978
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: are allegedly following the Seahawks plan. When Russell Wilson was

979
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: installed as a starter, he had a good offensive line,

980
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: he had a dominant running game and a very good defense.

981
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: They're putting Derek car behind an offensive line that couldn't

982
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: block in the preseason, receivers that drops passes all preseason

983
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: and don't have no They're they're a bottom five receiving group.

984
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: They don't have anybody resembling a number one receiver. They

985
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: don't have a proven tight end. This is this is

986
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: one of the worst offensive personnels as far as roster

987
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: in the league. And you're putting Derek car behind them.

988
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: It's a recipe for failure. Well, you're going up against

989
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: one of the worst secondaries in the league. I mean,

990
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: Antonio Allen. How about that front seven. It's outstanding, but

991
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: it's well, they don't have a they do. I wouldn't

992
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: say the linebacking crew is amazing in terms of there.

993
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: They don't have a pass rusher that scares you to death. No,

994
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: it's an outstanding run stopping group, and it's an outstanding

995
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: defensive line. They don't have any one on one guys

996
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: that win. And I could see this being a low scoring,

997
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: pretty competitive game because the Jets are that kind of

998
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: tea kind of like their game against Tampa and in

999
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: Week one last year. I like that. Well, hold on

1000
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: one thing about that, because we don't talk at all

1001
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: about what the Jets need to do. What about Geno Smith,

1002
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean, hit him against It's a nice matchup against

1003
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: Oakland's defense in my opinion, So I think it's a

1004
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: very nice matchup. And I liked what I saw Geno

1005
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: Smith in the preseason improvement. I think he has a

1006
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: sneaky chance to be a lot better this year, to

1007
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: to make a bigger leap than let's say, O Ryan team.

1008
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: I like the connection with Decker too. They just missed

1009
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: on a couple of of deep passes in the third

1010
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: preseason game. I think Becker is gonna have a better

1011
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: season than people people think a Marvel Thanks. Decker is

1012
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: a number three or number four receiver, but he's out

1013
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: of his tree. All right, We've got five games left,

1014
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: not a lot of time, so we'll go through some

1015
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: of these a little quicker. Jaguars and Eagles, Mark, you

1016
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: were tempted to take this game as your favorite game

1017
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: of the week right off the top. You've got such

1018
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: so much Jaguars fever. It was a lot to like here.

1019
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: I want to see number one. Everyone asked, will defense

1020
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: is catch up to Chip Kelly and you know, shut

1021
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: that thing down? Well, guess what Chip Kelly has been

1022
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: working too with new wrinkles. Well, how will Darren Sprowles

1023
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: be used? And then for Jacksonville. I like Jacksonville's defense.

1024
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: I think that Gus Bradley is starting to put the

1025
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: pieces in place to have, you know, some interesting results here,

1026
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: and I don't see them completely flatlining like a year ago.

1027
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: So Eagles offense Gus Bradley defense, I like it. I

1028
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: might have to ask to watch that game. This is

1029
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: a big test for that Jaguars defense, who I think

1030
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: greater than the sum of its parts. But it's about

1031
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: as tough of matchup as you're gonna have going on

1032
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: the road and playing playing the Eagles. I think the

1033
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense is another year away. There are a lot

1034
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: standier than they were like early, especially early last season,

1035
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: but they don't really have difference making talents yet. They've

1036
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: got send Derek Marks and Jonathan Sipprey and a bunch

1037
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: of guys. They've got veterans too that they're gonna have

1038
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: to basically overhaul sooner than later. But I do think

1039
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: that you've got a lot of guys like and see

1040
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: it wants about one team that is maybe doing something

1041
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: in Seattle, like I see it a little bit with

1042
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's defense because it's a guy that knows how that

1043
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: was actually done. Be a lot more watchable. If Blake

1044
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: Borders was starting this game, we will be in by

1045
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: halftime all right, we all take the Eagles in that game,

1046
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: No surprise there. We all took the Vikings, who are

1047
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: actually Rode underdogs this week, so it's strange we all

1048
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: picked the underdog. They're going to St. Louis. It's an

1049
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: interesting game that Vikings are one of our team of

1050
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: a t L candidates, and uh, I guess that's why

1051
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: we all had to go with them. I thought this

1052
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: was a game. Uh. You know sometimes on Twitter we

1053
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: get comments that we're biased. Well, yeah, of course we are.

1054
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: We're not journalists, right, what do you mean both by bias? Though?

1055
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: I still like the Rams. They're boring, they refused to

1056
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: upgrade their quarterback situation. They play in a mausoleum, so

1057
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: I subconsciously when I go in to pick games, the

1058
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: Rams are usually one team that I give the benefit

1059
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: of that the worst crowd in the end. Yeah, you

1060
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't even concern yourself with where this is being played.

1061
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: And you've I thought Bradford actually looked improved in that

1062
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: passing game before we went down compared to what we

1063
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: think of Sam Bradford. That's out the door, obviously. Listen.

1064
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: I for me, the Vikings have a lot going on.

1065
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: I think they're there. They were my pick for the

1066
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: team of a t L and I think that whether

1067
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: or not it's Teddy and he has to wait a

1068
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: while to play, Castle is not a not a bad

1069
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: guy to carry the ship until then. Greg Robinson, the

1070
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: number two overall pick of the draft, is benched for

1071
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: this game, which is a deeply disappointing decision for the Rams.

1072
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're not they're not. They were not planning

1073
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: on that. They're not happy about that. They could have

1074
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: just drafted Blake Bortles and started him this game. Oh

1075
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: that would have been nice. They do still have Chris

1076
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: Long and Michael Brocker's and Robert Quinn and Ogiltree. It's

1077
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, this is any team do a worse job

1078
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: developing their offensive players that they pick goes back to

1079
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: the coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer. You got mentioned they've put a

1080
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: lot of first through third round picks into that offense,

1081
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: and you're right, where's the development? Cowboys forty Niners? Pretty

1082
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: fun game. Dan Hansas once again went out on limb.

1083
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: He went with the Cowboys. The rest of us went

1084
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: with the forty Niners. I'm really down on the forty

1085
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: Niners this year. And yet I still couldn't quite pull

1086
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: the trigger going up against this defense. This is the

1087
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: perfect recipe for the forty Niners to shut everyone up

1088
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: and score thirty five points and just put the preseason

1089
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: behind them. Out of Dan's hero picks, I think this

1090
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: might be the one that I could most easily see happening.

1091
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: I could see it happening. I didn't see any of

1092
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: them are crazy except for Seahawks Packers, and even that one,

1093
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: at least you're riding a good team. I could see

1094
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys dropping thirty five points on the forty Niners

1095
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: defense this week. That's what he's got to hope for,

1096
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: that kind of a game. Romo last time, don't if

1097
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: it is allowed time when they played the Niners in

1098
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: Romo was injured late game, one of the gutsiest performances,

1099
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: completely forgotten for a guy that's always sold down the river.

1100
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: I I like the Dallas offense week after week, depending

1101
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: on these guys staying healthy, and we'll find out real

1102
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: fast what's going on with Once again, our shadowy league

1103
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: figure known as John Marvel shaking his head. He doesn't

1104
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys often, there's a lot to like. He

1105
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: got Tyrone Smith the best to take about it exactly.

1106
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: You've got Tony Romo before he gets injured. You've got

1107
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: Jason Witten before he gets in before. I like to

1108
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: Marco Murray, the line is much better. I think this

1109
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: game could be in the thirties or the forties. Should

1110
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. It's in the late Fox

1111
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: window Carolina and Tampa Bay, which is the game, kind

1112
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: of the under the radar game that I'm most excited

1113
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: about because I want to see what this Bucks defense

1114
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: looks like. I want to see what the Panthers look like.

1115
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: And Cam Newton, we're not sure as of this taping.

1116
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: Even if he's definitely starting, he's expected to start, we're

1117
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: allowed to change our picks by the way Cam Newton

1118
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: does and start. Chris Westling, you took the Panthers. I

1119
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: assume that changed that if Cam Newton doesn't start. But

1120
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I took the Bucks. Anyways, even before the rib thing,

1121
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: we were concerned about Newton. He just doesn't look the same.

1122
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: He's not going to give you on the ground the

1123
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: weapon that he did in past seasons, and they're already

1124
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: depleted in terms of who we can throw too. So

1125
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: I picked the Panthers too, And I'm already wondering why.

1126
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: But I look across the Tampa Bay and I say, listen,

1127
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: this front seven against what we saw from that offensive

1128
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: line could be an all out assault. So there's another

1129
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: division that's all division games this week, NFC South, and

1130
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: I think Lovey Smith gets off to a fast start

1131
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: with her without Cam Newton. Dan Hansis agreed with me.

1132
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick was with you guys. Three of you chose

1133
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: the Panthers in that game, and uh, it's two great defenses.

1134
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the one hesitation I had was a defense.

1135
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks will be a great defense. Yeah,

1136
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: look at the talent and look at the coach. What's

1137
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: what's not to like? Well, I think great. I don't know.

1138
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: I guess they would. I think they'll be in the

1139
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: top five by the end of the year. Gerald McCoy

1140
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: and company against the Panther's line that has four players

1141
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: starting a new positions. That could go ugly. With Cam

1142
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: Newton running around like someone from our newsroom down there,

1143
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: Lavonte David could go off. This is a recipe for

1144
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to get injured this game because this game will

1145
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: be three nothing. Both offensive lines are terrible and both

1146
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: defensive lines are incredible. Three nothing. I like it. Last

1147
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: game of the week that we'll talk about Giants and Lions. Uh,

1148
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: we all went with the Lions. That just shows the

1149
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 1: amount of distrust I guess we have with Eli See

1150
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: that needs to prove it to us before we start

1151
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: picking them in games. The Giants. What about the Lions?

1152
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: They have tara lost defensive and they have some amazing talent.

1153
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: They have solid talent on paper, although I think just

1154
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: because it's so good at the top five, it gets

1155
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: a little overcome. What's your argument to pick New York

1156
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: if you're if you're suggesting one of us should have

1157
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: done that, that there are two lame teams that play

1158
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: each other and crazy things happen. It's it's closer to

1159
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: a coin more annoying of the two teams. It's a

1160
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: coin flip game. I went with the Lions. I just

1161
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: don't think the Giant the Giants have a better defense.

1162
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: Do they have a better defense than the Lions. I

1163
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: would probably take their defense over the Lions. Well, they

1164
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: have a lot of new parts. I went with the

1165
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Lions because I think they are significantly more, significantly better

1166
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: team than the Giants. I think, you know, Manning needs

1167
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: to prove he's not on the decline. That's going to

1168
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: be the big storyline there this year. I just wonder

1169
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: if he has another season like last season, if any

1170
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: of those guys are back next year. It's my lock

1171
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: of the week, Golden tap, three touchdowns, lock of the week,

1172
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Suck it up. There is the gold standard. Will be

1173
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: happy with that pick. By the way, we all, as

1174
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: I said, we all took the Lions. My power pick

1175
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: of the week, if you guys were curious, was Vikings

1176
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: over Rams. Chris Wesleyan's Power Picks sponsored by Derrissel was

1177
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: the Saints over the Falcons. Thanks to the power pick

1178
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: roles that you have established that I was able to

1179
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: pick that game. I was shocked at the Saints were

1180
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: eligible for a power Yeah. We we've We've made it

1181
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: a rule that you can't pick uh an easy pick.

1182
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: So we have to pick a game that that should

1183
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: be close. You know going into the week. You can't

1184
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: just pick a heavy favorite or anything like that. Not

1185
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: that we know what that is. All right, we will

1186
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: run out of time. We've talked about every game. We're

1187
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna do this every Friday. It's gonna come out and

1188
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: you can download it on iTunes, get it on stitcher,

1189
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. I think that's it for Mark Sessler,

1190
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: Chris Wesseling, t D and one big shadowy League figure,

1191
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: John Marvel. I'm Greg Rose Dalcie in it.