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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: for a day at a steak?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoo? And no, Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. If you can believe it, it is already

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Speaker 1: week four, my good friend, welcome back. How are you?

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Speaker 1: How you feeling? Are you amped or you psyched? Are

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Speaker 2: All of those things? I know it's weak four. I

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Speaker 2: believe it's week four because I'm down on sleep. I'm

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Speaker 2: So yes, actually yeah, I can believe it's week four

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Speaker 2: in the best possible way because I've had so much

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Speaker 2: But this specific week is fascinating, is ridiculous. I can't wait. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: there are going to be headline weeks where we see

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Speaker 2: across this great land, but this week provides us with

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Speaker 2: something very specific, and that specific thing is bruising, is

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Speaker 2: a fat lip is a black eye, is scrape and

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Speaker 2: I look at the possibility of some of these favorites,

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Speaker 2: I'm calling this sock them in the mouth Saturday. Oh okay, well,

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Speaker 2: can we play the old body blow sound?

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Speaker 1: Will that work?

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Speaker 2: Please do? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh oh oh.

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Speaker 2: Punch them in the mouth man, Yeah, what happens if

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Speaker 2: sock him in the mouth?

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Speaker 1: Saturday? Sock him in the mouth? What happens if you

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Speaker 1: get punched in the mouth? The old Mike Tyson quote. Right,

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Speaker 1: everyone's got the plan until you get punched in the mouth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We had a slow start from Utah before, but

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech is a very real threat. Oklahoma got out

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Speaker 2: That's the fascinating. Indiana hasn't been tested this year. Illinois

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Speaker 2: The duke game certainly went their way. Arizona State's been tested,

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Speaker 1: Flea Man, Okay, sock them in the mouth.

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Speaker 2: Maybe so them lock them in the mouth. Saturday. Oh

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Speaker 2: can't wait.

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Speaker 1: It looks like an awesome week of college football games.

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Speaker 1: We're so thrilled to be talking about it today. I

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Speaker 1: Where are you at in advance? Week four? Is there

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't have anything more to say about Clemson,

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Speaker 2: And you were more sold than most on Clemson this season.

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Speaker 2: If Clemson doesn't want little old Dabo, they can find

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Speaker 1: It was a weak geography episode for you and I

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Speaker 2: Right what I feel is that USC right now is

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, you want to pick some games?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think I feel good about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to high Noon on ESPN. No, it's

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Speaker 1: a rivalry game, Dan, Yes, we've got the SMU Mustangs.

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Speaker 2: Will you be making your noteworthy breakfast potatoes on Saturday

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Speaker 2: Time makes real good breakfast potatoes. They're very good, and

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Speaker 1: That sounds That sounds pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It combines pizza and chrispy potatoes. What more can you saying?

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Speaker 1: No, As for the football part of this, last year,

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Speaker 2: I have questions about both of these defenses, especially TCU's

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Speaker 1: My general rule is to take the points in a

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Speaker 1: which is exactly what I'm gonna do here. When I

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Speaker 2: I don't even know who that's insulting to.

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Speaker 1: rewatch this morning. It seems to me, at a minimum

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Speaker 1: that they're tackling is better. They're tackling is more consistent,

432
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Speaker 1: which is something you will take that given where the

433
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Speaker 1: defense has been obviously those this is going to be

434
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Speaker 1: a much better test than North Carolina was in Week

435
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Speaker 1: one than who they played last week. Yeah right, SMU

436
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: is going to be different from those teams. To me,

437
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: it's whoever as the ball last wins. Like I'm with

438
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Speaker 1: would you say forty four to forty Yeah, I'll say

439
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: forty five forty just to be different. Sure, I like TCU.

440
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Speaker 1: I think they win this game, but I expect zero defense.

441
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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I think I

442
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Speaker 1: trust Josh Hoover a little bit more than Kevin Jennings.

443
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Speaker 2: Really I do. I love Kevin Jennings.

444
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Speaker 1: I like Kevin Jennings. I was all on Kevin Jennings

445
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: a year ago, but in this affair, I'm gonna go

446
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: Josh Hoover. I'm gonna say TCU wins forty five to forty. Yeah.

447
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna play Kevin Jennings in a losing

448
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: effort this week, Like like he just completed seventy percent

449
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: of his passes for four hundred and forty nine yards

450
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Speaker 2: and lost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How I need to get that sound back on

452
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Speaker 1: the board. We need to bring that out of retirement

453
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: because there have been already a bunch of opportunities to

454
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Speaker 1: play it, and I've been dropping the ball. So that's

455
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Speaker 1: on me for ballerhood. I will get it back on

456
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Speaker 1: the board this week. We will make sure we play

457
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Speaker 1: that on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: YEP, three point thirty CBS.

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Speaker 1: This is a really big game that we probably should

460
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Speaker 1: have talked about on Tuesday. It is your Michigan Wolverines. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: it is America's Nebraska corn Huskers. Nebraska is a two

462
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Speaker 1: and one half point home underdog in this affair day in. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: so let's talk about Nebraska. Okay, Week one a slug

464
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. They played the game in Arrowhead against Cincinnati.

465
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Speaker 1: Other than that game, Nebraska has beaten Akron and Houston

466
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Speaker 1: Christian by one hundred and twenty seven to seven margin.

467
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Speaker 2: Yes, what a story.

468
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Speaker 1: Michigan has definitely played a tougher schedule through three weeks.

469
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's even debatable being New Mexico. They

470
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Speaker 1: lost on the road to Oklahoma, and then they won

471
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Speaker 1: by sixty last week against Central Michigan. So now there's

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Speaker 1: that we I think know a little bit more about Michigan.

473
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Speaker 1: Should also point out that Michigan will be without Sharon

474
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Speaker 1: Moore in this game. Correct still suspended due to the

475
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: sign stealing thing. It's going to be Biff Poge filling

476
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Speaker 1: in as the interim coach. As I said on the

477
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Speaker 1: recap episode last week, we had a handful of people

478
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Speaker 1: right in and say, hey, uh, Michigan looked better without him.

479
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Speaker 1: We're cool with that. I don't know if that's going

480
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: to hold up against a team like a Nebraska or not.

481
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Speaker 1: But they did win by six day. They did look

482
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Speaker 1: pretty good. If you're a Michigan fan, you feel pretty

483
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Speaker 1: good about that.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: We often frame up these previews in terms of which

486
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Speaker 1: team has more pressure on them, especially in September. I

487
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: don't think there is any question about this one. The

488
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: weight of the world is on Nebraska in the spot.

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Speaker 2: Is it not agree? Agree for one?

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Speaker 1: It's Matt rule, It's Matt role year three, which comes

491
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Speaker 1: with the expectations. Have you looked at this schedule for

492
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Speaker 1: Nebraska beyond this game? Uh, it's not that bad, right,

493
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Speaker 1: Like I have a really bad habit for putting the

494
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Speaker 1: cart before the horse and pumping a little too much

495
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Speaker 1: sunshine into what's possible for some of these teams. But

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Speaker 1: after Michigan and after the bye week for Nebraska home

497
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Speaker 1: against Michigan, State on the road at Maryland, on the

498
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: road at Minnesota, home against Northwestern. You beat Michigan here,

499
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance you're going eight to zero

500
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: headed into a big game first day of November at

501
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: home against USC the aforementioned USC Trojans. Yeah, there's a

502
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: lot riding on this one from the Nebraska Huskers. Dan,

503
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: who you got?

504
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Michigan?

505
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: Why come on?

506
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: It actually goes against one of my central picking tenants, right,

507
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: what we think is a good defense at home as

508
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: an underdog in a tough place to play. I've just

509
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: seen it from Nebraska before that they can lose this

510
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: game the way that they lost, like the Illinois game

511
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: last year. Last year's team is not this year's team.

512
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Speaker 2: Of course, I don't trust Nebraska's offense. I just don't.

513
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Speaker 2: I have to see it perform against a good team

514
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Speaker 2: before I can say yes, I am a believer in

515
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: this team's ability to score thirty points against a quality defense.

516
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Have we seen that? No?

517
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Speaker 1: But what have we seen from the Michigan offense against

518
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: better teams, better defenses that you feeling reassured that they

519
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: can do anything against Nebraska here on the road.

520
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: I agree. My problem is we've seen Nebraska. This is

521
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: third year of Matt Ruhle, and we've kind of understood

522
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 2: the rhythms of this team that they'll put a bunch

523
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: of points on flawed teams and still haven't been able.

524
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it's this week, right, Maybe it's this week where

525
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: they figure it all out. I just think we have

526
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: more data and disappointing data about the Nebraska offense that

527
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: has me worried about Nebraska in this specific spot. That

528
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: we know what Michigan's going to try to do, that

529
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: they're going to try to run to set up play action.

530
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: We know Michigan doesn't have game changing receivers week in

531
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: week out, but there is something to me about like

532
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: picking against Dylan Rayola against what should be a good defense,

533
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: especially upfront. You saw that they were showing heavier stuff

534
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: that they were getting ready to employ against Nebraska last

535
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: week and it was Central Michigan whatever. But I don't know, man,

536
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: I just I'm not on a trusting plane with Nebraska's

537
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: offense right now. And part of what has me a

538
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: little bit encouraged about Michigan is the quotes after Oklahoma

539
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: and after Central Michigan from Biff Pogee were sort of

540
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: like we were trying to shorten the Oklahoma game. We

541
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: didn't want Bryce Underwood to run. We wanted him to

542
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: get that experience and not put too much on his plate.

543
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: And now that we've been through that, we realize we

544
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: need to.

545
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: Just let it rip.

546
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: Well, and there's something that has me a little bit maybe, look,

547
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: I'm gullible, maybe I'm buying in too early on Michigan,

548
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: but that has me going a little bit, Well, what.

549
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: I saw kind of in retrospect now, and I think

550
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: I talked about it at the time as well. I

551
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: think what we saw a little bit in that Oklahoma

552
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: game is what we saw a lot of in say,

553
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame Miami game. Yeah, new quarterback coaching staff,

554
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: unsure how much they can put on his plate, unsure

555
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: how we would respond in hostile terry. And I think

556
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: in both cases now obviously not to Dame loss, and

557
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: so did Michigan, but with respect to CJ. Carr, with

558
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: respect to Bryce Underwood, in neither case was the guy

559
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: rattled by the situation. You know, it seemed as though,

560
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: even though the stats on the stat line for Bryce

561
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Underwood didn't really work out against Oklahoma just nine for

562
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: twenty four, it didn't seem like the moment was too

563
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: big for him. It didn't seem overwhelmed being there. It

564
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: seemed as though, even though he was in hostile territory,

565
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: he looked fine, he could handle it. They need to

566
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: get better around him, and clearly it was a pretty

567
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: good defense. But all being said, I thought it quitted

568
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: himself fairly well, just composure wise, being that QB one right.

569
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: So that I think is an interesting wrinkle that's obviously

570
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: very very hard to gain plan for, and in our

571
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: case here hard to preview because we just don't know

572
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: what version of the Michigan offense we're going to see.

573
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: I think the formula for Nebraska is going to be

574
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: a lot of what we saw against Oklahoma, and what

575
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: we saw Oklahoma do against Michigan was they basically sat

576
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: on him. Right. We had one long run from Justice Haynes,

577
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: we had one long pass to Donovan McCully, but otherwise

578
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: there was no real pop. Now Michigan can try to

579
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: change that, and if they do change that, obviously this

580
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: all goes out the window. But I think you try

581
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: to stop the run. I think you try to put

582
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: this one more on the arm of Bryce Underwood. Eventually

583
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: he could be a first round quarterback. We didn't really

584
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: see that against Oklahoma, but I think if they try

585
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: to make a little bit more hay through the air,

586
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: Michigan will be better for it. How that works out

587
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: against another good defense on the road remains to be seen,

588
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: but at least based on what we have seen so far,

589
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: take the runaway, sit on him, try to force you know,

590
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: everything to go through Bryce Underwood. That's probably the cleanest

591
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: path through to victory.

592
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of runaway, you are threatening to

593
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: run away from it all and move to the south

594
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: of France with one particular run defense pet stat correct,

595
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: you picked Illinois Indiana based specifically on this one run

596
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: defense before contact? What is Nebraska's I don't have it?

597
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: What is their rank? Do you have ready for it?

598
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty second?

599
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: Wow?

600
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: So look, maybe that Cincinnati game, it's Game one, it's

601
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: in an NFL stadium. It was just a different kind

602
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: of feeling on an NFL field, and they weren't ready

603
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: to fill gaps and fit runs like fine, not great, Well,

604
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: it's not great early on that this run defense if

605
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: that's what is you know, job number one against this

606
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: Michigan offense, it hasn't been incredible in the limited data

607
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: set that we have.

608
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the catches. Can Nebraska do that right? Can

609
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: they do it as effectively as Oklahoma? Did, and to

610
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: your point, I'm not sure. Like my question coming into

611
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: this season was whether or not the Nebraska defense would

612
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: take a step back with a new coordinator with a

613
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: line to me that looked a little bit worse. And yeah,

614
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: some of those early stats kind of back up that concern.

615
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

616
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but that's kind of my thinking

617
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: at the moment. One way or another. I think we're

618
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: headed for a rock fight with this one, and I

619
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: think it's something in the neighborhood of like twenty three twenty.

620
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: I like Nebraska, I like the quarterback and defense combo

621
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: a little bit better. So let's go to Nebraska plus

622
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: the points. Let's say Nebraska home dog of the week. Wow,

623
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: the yakos home dog of the week. Okay, I'm gonna

624
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: go Nebraska outright here twenty three to twenty. But I

625
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: think it's close, and honestly, the way that I am

626
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: presenting this is assuming a lot. I am not convinced

627
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: that Nebraska can go out there and stop the run

628
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: as effectively as Oklahoma. And I am also not convinced

629
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: we're going to see the same version of Michigan that

630
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: we did against Oklahoma. Maybe they do open it up

631
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: a little bit more. There's a lot of assumption going

632
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: on here on this side of the show show that

633
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: could definitely come back to bite me. But I'm going

634
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: to say Nebraska, right.

635
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: Michigan twenty seven to twenty.

636
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: Three, seven point thirty ABC Florida Gators on the road

637
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: at the Miami Hurricanes. Miami is a seven and one

638
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: half point favorite. They are all the way up to

639
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: number four in the polls so far. Outside of that

640
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: last let's say a quarter and a half against Notre Dame,

641
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: everything else on the Miami side has been incredible. Yeah,

642
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: they have looked really good. Bill Connolly has Miami so

643
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: far with the top offense in America per his sp

644
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: plus as they were a year ago. Clearly, we are

645
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: still waiting for Florida to live up to their promise

646
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: in advance of this season. The game against USF was

647
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: a disaster. The game last week might have been worse.

648
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: If I could, for a second quote the wise profit

649
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Yogi bearra place with respect to Billy Napier, it is

650
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: getting late early. They desperately need this win here on

651
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: the road again hostile territory and in state rival. It

652
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: would build real goodwill with the Florida fan base. If

653
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: they were able to pull the upset here.

654
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: My kids would be super impressive. I could start throwing

655
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: down Tomahawk dunks tonight. Is there any reason to think

656
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: that Florida can turn it around, can snap their fingers,

657
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: can correct some of what has ailed them on the

658
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: road against arrival In the Miami Hurricanes, who are playing really,

659
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: really well right now, I guess if they could poison

660
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: Carson Beck or something, if they have the wherewithal No,

661
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: to me, there is not. You're not defined by who

662
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: you are necessarily by your worst day, but now this

663
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: is the worst days after throwing five picks against LSU

664
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: last week and losing to USF in the manner in

665
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: which they did. I just think when you go back

666
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: to back with that kind of disappointing performances, with those

667
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: kinds of disappointing performances, it's harder to dig yourself out.

668
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: I saw a quote, I'm going to get this quote wrong.

669
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing here that Mario Chris Ball wanted Miami fans

670
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 2: to turn and it's something maybe a little bit hopeful,

671
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: but to turn hard rock into some kind of asylum,

672
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: right to some kind of mad house to some kind

673
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: of crazy house where people are just losing their absolute

674
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: minds in the stadium, which obviously they should be. It's

675
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: an in state rival in Florida. I just think there's

676
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: a certain amount of aggression that Miami plays with that

677
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: Florida is not built to withstand. They're two mistake prona offense,

678
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: They're not savvy enough on the sideline that there's talent

679
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: on this Florida team on both sides of the ball.

680
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: But when you watch the game against LSU, there was

681
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: no vision from the sideline there. The game plan was

682
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: terrible in trying to combat with this LSUD was doing.

683
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: And Miami's playing with a chip that's the size of

684
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: Biscayne Bay on its shoulder right now. I just I

685
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: don't see a way for Florida to dig themselves out

686
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: on the road, specifically because they weren't in this kind

687
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: of pit last year at home against Miami, right and

688
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: now Miami's defense appears to be way better and communicates

689
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: way better, is on the same page more often, and

690
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: their defensive line is healthy, and Florida's gonna find a

691
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: way in this spot. I don't buy it. I think

692
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: Miami's winning by seventeen to twenty four.

693
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: What troubles me the most about Florida in this moment

694
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: is that it's not just one thing. You know, the

695
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: offensive line right now is the second most penalized in

696
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: all of FBS, and when they're not getting penalized, they're

697
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: missing blocks in the run game, which is not helpful

698
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: to DJ Lagway. It puts more pressure on DJ Lagway.

699
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: DJ's actually had good pass protection, but if he doesn't

700
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: have a complimentary run game, that puts a lot more

701
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: on his arm. I think Jayden good, absolutely, but look

702
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: at what happened last week. What happened last week was

703
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: five interceptions yeap, what happened the week before for DJ Lagway.

704
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: DJ Lagway got worse as that USF game went on.

705
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: I could probably build a case that DJ Lagway's got

706
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: a bit of the yips right now and defensively, like

707
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: they're not blitzing at all, they're not getting pressure at all.

708
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: We've been doing this for a long time, Dan, like

709
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: between the two of us, we got a lot more

710
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: gray now. We got two more wives, we got two

711
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: more dogs and two more kids than we did when

712
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: we first started this whole endeavor.

713
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: That's true.

714
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: I think by now I can look at these numbers

715
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: and have a pretty good sense for how they fit

716
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: together to tell a story. And to me, the story

717
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: is that it's time to fire Billy Napier. The story

718
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: is that to have all this talent and look this

719
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: bad against those opponents, there's no excuse for that. And

720
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: so what stranger things happen every week in this sport?

721
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: Every week?

722
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: Could Florida snap its fingers and suddenly turn into a

723
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: different team and be fired up to play an in

724
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: state rival? Yeah, sure, absolutely, I don't even think it's

725
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: far fetched. Let's not pretend that Mario crystal Ball is

726
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: mister clutch here. Okay, but if the starting point for

727
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: the Keynes is that they've got a big advantage along

728
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: both lines, and they've got a veteran quarterback who can

729
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: probably pick anybody apart if they can't get pressure on them,

730
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why you bet Florida here, which is

731
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying too. I don't have it

732
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: quite by as much, but I've got it thirty four

733
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: to twenty four. I think Miami wins is one by ten.

734
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: I think they win going away, and I don't know

735
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: if it's particularly stressful because I look at this, I

736
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: look at how mistake prone Florida has been, and I

737
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: see a big advantage for Miami team that again has

738
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: been pretty rock solid outside of a quarter and a half.

739
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: By the way, it's never a good sign if you're

740
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: a team like Florida and the story after the game

741
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: is like, what's wrong with this LSU offense? Yeah, yeah,

742
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: exactly getting at that many turnovers and not being able

743
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: to turn it into anything.

744
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven point thirty on Fox. It's Arizona State. It

745
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: is the Baylor Bears. Dan Baylor favored by two and

746
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: a half points, both teams two and one. I have

747
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: not been encouraged by Baylor's defense. Stop me if you've

748
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: heard that one before.

749
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

750
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: I've also not been impressed by Sam Levitt in the

751
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: early going. I looked on Tuesday night and seventy three

752
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: percent of the bets were on Baylor minus two and

753
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: a half points, which seems really high to me. That

754
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: seemed high to you.

755
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I get the logic.

756
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: I do. I think it's because we probably know more

757
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: about Baylor at this point at least that we can

758
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: lean on. Yeah, the offense is undeniable. I think Baylor

759
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: could score twenty eight against a literal brick wall right now.

760
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: My problem is that almost anybody can score twenty eight

761
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: against them too. Now. It's early, I can't emphasize that enough,

762
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: but I'm not really seeing the growth from the Baylor

763
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: defense that we were hoping for, and this is the

764
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: kind of game where it could bite them.

765
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

766
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: So, even though ASU hasn't looked great so far, they

767
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: have been able to do two things pretty consistently. That's

768
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: run the ball with ray Leak Brown and Kanye Yudo,

769
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: and also plays slowly. Pop open the spreadsheet for a second,

770
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: take a look at take a look at Baylor's numbers

771
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: efficiency numbers against the run. That whole column is frigging

772
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: beat red.

773
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: Yep.

774
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: So I think ASU is gonna be able to run it.

775
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to slow it down.

776
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to pick their spots

777
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: through the air and not lean as much on Sam Levitt,

778
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: who I do think is struggling a little bit in

779
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: the early going here.

780
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: Yep.

781
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: Give your quarterbacks some good looks as a result of

782
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: running game which should be there in this matchup, and

783
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: limit the number of possessions that Baylor has. We say

784
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: this all the time, but styles make fights, right, these

785
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: are two very different teams. My thought in this game,

786
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: are you ready for it?

787
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm ready love it or leve it. Love it or

788
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: love it.

789
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: Either love Baylor's ability to out score anybody who walks

790
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: through the door, or you go the other direction and

791
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: go with Sam Levin. I don't love it. I'm going levit.

792
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: ASU wins this one out right, thirty four to twenty eight.

793
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what is Baylor's defense is allowed? What

794
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: against Power conference opponents? Forty forty one points a game? Yeah,

795
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: against Auburn at SMU. Yeah, when the worst thing in

796
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: this game is a team's rush defense and it's a

797
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: tight line, I'm just going to go with the team

798
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: I trust a little bit more to get off the

799
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: field or stay on the field. And right now, that's Asu.

800
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: ASU was taking a step back. You're right from where

801
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: they were last year. But I'm going to extend the

802
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: grace that if if your defense is ahead of the

803
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: other team's defense in a tight game, in a game

804
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: that I think we're going to see points, I think

805
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: as you just has a better shot to get off

806
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: the field, I'm going to go with the sun Devils

807
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: here by five or six.

808
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: If you are listening to this anywhere where you can

809
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: leave a comment, if you're watching this anywhere where you

810
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: can leave a comment. We would encourage your predictions down

811
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: in the comments. Let us know where we're right, let

812
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: us know where we're wrong. Of course, you can always

813
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: ranch a flag. Yeah, you can always send us a

814
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: note sOliver bloodmail dot com or across social media. But yeah,

815
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: plant the flag in the comments. Let us know your thoughts. Yes,

816
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: some quick hitters, all right, Four o'clock ESPN two, NC

817
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: State at Duke. I love this game. I am I

818
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: thrilled about this game. I know you did some digging

819
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: on this one. What was the defensive stat that you

820
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: pulled out about these guys.

821
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: I think both of these teams, I'm verifying this right now,

822
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: but I think both of these teams are among the

823
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: nation's worst and giving up big plays great.

824
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: That makes for a fun game, does it, not correct?

825
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: I think so.

826
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: I am going points here in NC State because I

827
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: really like what I've seen out of NC State so

828
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: far this season. They are not, by any stretch a

829
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: perfect finished product, but I really like what I'm seeing

830
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: from Hollywood Smothers. He's been out standing so far. I

831
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: think NC State goes on the road. I think they

832
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: win this one outright, but at a minimum, give me

833
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: those points.

834
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: I went back and forth on this one. NC State

835
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: hasn't been super impressive. They got socked in the mouth

836
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: by wake Forest early, and they came back and they

837
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: did a good job. And Hollywood's Mothers has been very good.

838
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: It's tough to get CJ. Bailey down. I guess you

839
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: gotta buy low on Duke, and in this moment, after

840
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: what they look like against Tulane and Illinois, I don't know.

841
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: The line confuses me a little bit because NC State

842
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: has turned its performances into wins and Duke hasn't. But

843
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: I think they ascend to the meme. I think there's

844
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: still too much there. I'm gonna go Duke here to

845
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: win this one by five or six because I am

846
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: not fully willing to give up on this Duke team.

847
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: And I just I'm with you where NC State is

848
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: not a finished product. There are lots of things to

849
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: like about NC State, but I just don't think Duke

850
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: is disastrous. So I think they can win a game

851
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: like this at.

852
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: Home seven PMSPN South Carolina at number twenty three Miszoo

853
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: Miszoo right now ten and a half point favorite. We

854
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: are recording this on midday Wednesday. There will be an

855
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: SEC injury report out later today after we hit stop.

856
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: At that point, we should get a little bit more

857
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: clarity on Lenora's sellers. So Lenora's took a helmet the

858
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: helmet shot. He left the game a week ago. Whether

859
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: or not he is back in time for this one

860
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: remains to be seen. I did see that Shane Beemer

861
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: expressed a little bit of optimism, but he also was

862
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: playing a bitcoy in saying that, yep, you can get

863
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: the injury report with everybody else. So yeah, we can't

864
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: really judge this one on the point spread because I

865
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: think it's gonna change whether or not he ends up playing.

866
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: It could jump if he doesn't. Obviously, where are you at?

867
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: What is your thinking with regard to this game. Let's

868
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: assume that he does play, because if he doesn't, it's

869
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: a different story altogether. I think it would be a

870
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: big advantage in favor of Maszoo. But assuming Lenoris does play,

871
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: how does that change your thinking here?

872
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: I think Lenoris is great. We call him the creator

873
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: for a reason. I just think what's around him right now.

874
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: He has played a lot this season, and this offense

875
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: has been horrible. He did not play for a large

876
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: chunk of that Vanderbilt game. Excuse me almost cough there.

877
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: But I am a little bit more confident with this

878
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: game being at Missoo and at best, if he is

879
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: questionable as we record this, at best, he's gonna be

880
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: questionable during the game. He's not going to be fully himself.

881
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: Just because he's playing, obviously, does not mean he's feeling

882
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: one hundred percent or anywhere near it. So you need

883
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: him to be physically at his best. He's not somebody

884
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: who's just gonna sit in the pocket and pick you

885
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: apart that offensive line. I think Missoo wins this game

886
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: by I don't know. I think they cover this game

887
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: whether or not he's in there.

888
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

889
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are a couple of touchdowns better.

890
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: What I'm most interested in is how Missouri holds up

891
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: against this South Carolina defensive front. I'm curious to see

892
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: what they do. I'm curious to see if they're putting

893
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: Bouprabula a little bit more on the move. I'm curious

894
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: to see Hallamaud Hardy fares against this defensive front. I

895
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: really like where Missoo is at right now. Miszoo has

896
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: been one of those teams that I know we talked

897
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: a lot about in the preseason because they've got an

898
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: interesting schedule. If they can get it going, if everything clicks.

899
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's really early, and again I don't

900
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: want to put the cart before the horse, but there's

901
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot of reason to feel pretty excited about Miszoo

902
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: if they look this good the full way through. And

903
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: so this is a really good opportunity to see what

904
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: they're made of against what I think is a pretty

905
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: good defensive front. Maybe it isn't quite as good as

906
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: it was a year ago, but there's still plenty of

907
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: talent up front, and certainly in the line backing core

908
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: in the South Carolina side as well that defensively, this

909
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: will be a different test for the Tigers. I'm gonna

910
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: go Miszoo as well. I don't like them covering that

911
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: point spread though, and I sort of don't like it

912
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: regardless of who's playing quarterback. To me, it just seems

913
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: like too many points in an sec matchup that we

914
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: know a little bit more about South Carolina at this point.

915
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: Missoo's look good, but South Carolina has played better teams,

916
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to see what missoo looks like.

917
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: That's true, that's a big line for somebody who has

918
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: not proven it against somebody as complete as South. Well,

919
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 2: South Carolina doesn't appear to be as complete, but Kansas

920
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: is not complete, so who knows.

921
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: And of course the nightcap, it's a real nightcap. This

922
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: one's at eleven pm Eastern time on Fox. It is

923
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Michigan State making the trip out west, squaring off against

924
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: usc usc now at eighteen and a half point favorite.

925
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: Let me reiterate what I said at the very top.

926
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: I sort of stumbled through it, but I stumbled through

927
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: it the first time I brought it up a week ago.

928
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: I am told that East Lansing, based on our YouTube comments,

929
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: is in the Eastern time zone.

930
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: You can also just look it up and go back.

931
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: I could look it up.

932
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: I didn't, Okay, I didn't.

933
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm taking the verballer Hood's word for it. Right. My

934
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: body clock math was incorrect. This is going to feel

935
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: like eleven pm for me. It will feel like eleven

936
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: PM for them. We will be doing a live stream.

937
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: They might be through the first quarter, right, Okay, we

938
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: have caught some flak additionally, and I talked about this

939
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: at the top as well, for not talking enough about USC.

940
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: But now on this episode, on this episode, I think

941
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about USC.

942
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: I think they've given them their flowers? Have we?

943
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Not sure?

944
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: The good news is this USC fans, finally, at long last,

945
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: you get to play a real team, and that team

946
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: is Michigan State. Sparty has not played past defense since

947
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty one. Dan. Yeah,

948
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: So if everything holds true that you mentioned at the top,

949
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: all the reasons why we should feel good about the Trojans, yep,

950
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: Jade Mayava should have a pretty nice day, like three

951
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards and four touchdowns nice against this

952
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: Spartan secondary. Does that seem like it computes for you? Yes,

953
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: I am going to lock up USC bluck of the week.

954
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: I am gonna do this as an offering of goodwill

955
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: to our USC brethren out there that feels we have

956
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: slided the Trojans, to which I would say, there is

957
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: no further act of appreciation. There is no more active

958
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: appreciation here in the verballer hood than me locking up

959
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: your Trojans. What could go wrong?

960
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: What could go could go wrong?

961
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: Just take this big old wooden horse and wheel it

962
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: inside the gates my lock of the week. I can

963
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: assure you nothing ever, ever could be wrong with Ty's

964
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: lock of the week.

965
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 2: Look, USC beat Perdue by sixteen? What's beating Michigan? And

966
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: stay by seventeen?

967
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: Right? Absolutely eighteen. You got to get to nineteen if

968
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: you want to cover this points bayh sorry stops.

969
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm taking sc here. Situationally, it's a good spot.

970
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: I think last week was a good moment to wake

971
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: them up a little bit against Purdue, who fought hard,

972
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: ultimately couldn't get it done and couldn't really touch the

973
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: Trojans late. So yeah, I'm Michigan State. It's just that

974
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: the defense is still too concerning because I think I

975
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: think offensively they can make plays, but I just I

976
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: think the defense is going to take them out, especially

977
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: across the country, especially this late. I just I'm out.

978
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: I am one in three of my locks of the

979
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: year or loschool so far on the year. Nothing to

980
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: worry about here, though, guys, Okay, just take it as

981
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: my token of appreciation. I think us he wins this game.

982
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: But the point spread. Who knows one other one that

983
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention very quickly here Friday night, Iowa

984
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: at Rutgers. We mentioned this in passing. I am one

985
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: thousand percent taking the points in this game. I'm I'm

986
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: not sure, actually, but I have been damn impressed with

987
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: the Rutgers passing offense so far. It's actually been quite good.

988
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: The whole offense has been quite good, which is weird

989
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: because the defense hasn't and usually it's the other way

990
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: around for Rutgers. I don't trust that they're going to

991
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: be able to beat Iowa's defense, but I don't trust

992
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: Iowa's offense at all. So give me the points. This

993
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: could be sixteen to fourteen in favor of somebody. I

994
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: will take Rutgers plus the points.

995
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: Iowa also has Indiana next week, so a bit of

996
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: a look ahead spot on the road in New Jersey

997
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: going to that. You can fact check me on this

998
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: Eastern time zone.

999
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Western time zone, Eastern times on.

1000
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I'm gonna go Rutgers as well.

1001
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: We saw it, you know, it was traveling across the

1002
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: country last year with Washington going down to Rutgers. I'm

1003
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: will Rutgers here home dog.

1004
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: Couple under the radar games for all y'all.

1005
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: High noon.

1006
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: Arkansas at Memphis, Memphis favored by or Memphis.

1007
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: Is Arkansas favor seven and a half point do yep.

1008
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: We've also got Maryland at Wisconsin, Wisconsin favored by ten

1009
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: and a half points. This is actually my lock of

1010
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: the Weekluck of the week. You can mark me down

1011
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: for two of them this week. I'll take s Seve

1012
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: and I'm loving Wisconsin here. Okay, I'm not buying Maryland

1013
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: at this point in time. Exciting young talent and milik Washington,

1014
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: but not feeling it. I think this is where Wisconsin

1015
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: gets off the schneid here and gets a big home win.

1016
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: Memphis lock of the week by the way, for me,

1017
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: really yes.

1018
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: Luck of the week. You think maybe a letdown scenari.

1019
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: I think it's a letdown moment for Arkansas and it's

1020
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: on the road against what appears to be a good

1021
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: defense for Memphis. We'll see against this schedule what that

1022
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: actually means. They've played Chattanooga and then Georgia State and Troy,

1023
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: but they've been on the road two weeks in a

1024
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: row and played good defense, and to me, that's something encouraging.

1025
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: So I think Arkansas pulls this out, but I think

1026
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Memphis loses it real close, and so I'm going to

1027
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: take the points. A couple other ones that could be interesting.

1028
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: Clemson is at home. They are favored by seventeen and

1029
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: a half against Syracuse. I believe Steve Angeli leads the

1030
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: nation in passing yardage so far this season. I do

1031
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: not think much of Syracuse's ability to stop Clemson's offense.

1032
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: But Clemson's offense has also done a really good job,

1033
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: most recently, of stopping itself. So if we find out

1034
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: on Sunday morning, after we wake up bleary eye talking

1035
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: about a million games on the Saturday night stream that

1036
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: Syracuse lost this game but was plucky and it ended

1037
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: up being thirty to twenty in favor of Clemson, that

1038
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: is an entirely believable outcome to me. Yeah, what is

1039
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: Clemson's twenty twenty five team done to earn a seventeen

1040
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: point spread?

1041
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: Syracuse will be up for this game.

1042
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm taking the points.

1043
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: This is fran Brah I'll take the points too. What

1044
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: the hell three point thirty ESPN Twulane on the road

1045
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: at ole Miss, ole Miss favored by eleven and one

1046
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: half points.

1047
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: Austin Simmons coming back.

1048
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe so. But Toulne a lot to

1049
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: play for. Yeah, Toulene a lot to play for if

1050
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: you do the thing where you do way too early

1051
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: playoff projections. Tulane, I think, is the team that everyone

1052
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: favors right now to get in out of the non

1053
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: Power four conferences and perhaps have a run at this playoff.

1054
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: They need to at least keep this one close if

1055
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: they want to remain I think the leader in the

1056
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: clubhouse in that conversation eleven and a half points feels

1057
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: like a weird number to me. I like ole missing

1058
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: this one, but would not surprise me if they win

1059
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: by seven. So I'm gonna go points again.

1060
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm one points here as well. It's also I think

1061
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: a letdown look ahead spot. Not that Tulane does not

1062
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: have ole Miss's attention, but I believe ole Miss as

1063
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: LSU next week, a week after a fun back and

1064
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: forth against Arkansas with the back quarterback. So I just

1065
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: think situationally, Tulane's in a good spot. I'm gonna take the.

1066
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: Points seven ESPN two BYU on the road at ECU.

1067
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: E SU is a six and one half point home dog.

1068
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: I am taking ECU outright, Wow, Okay, give me the

1069
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: Pirates outright, cross country travel for BYU. ECU can put

1070
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: up points BYU. I like Kilanie Sataki a lot. I

1071
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: feel like I always underestimate BYU. This is not a

1072
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: dig at BYU, but they are, of course still trying

1073
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: to figure out what all their pieces look like on

1074
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. I feel like ECU

1075
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: is actually a fairly veteran team that knows how to

1076
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: score points. Defense might be in short supply here, but

1077
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: at a minimum, give me those points. I kind of

1078
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: like them outright.

1079
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking BYU here actually coming off of by

1080
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: The defense has been lights out against nobody obviously, but

1081
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: I think situationally BYU will not be like sandwich between anything.

1082
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: So I'm going Cougar's here to win it.

1083
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: Any reason to think that either Oregon State or Washington

1084
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: State can pull an upset. So we've got Oregon State

1085
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: on the road at your Oregon Ducks. Oregon's favored by

1086
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: about thirty five, Platypus Cup and then the night cap

1087
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: seven thirty on CBS, Washington Does travel to Pullman to

1088
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: square off against the Washington State Cougars. Washington State is

1089
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: about a three touchdown touchdown dog at home.

1090
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: No, there's no reason to believe in either one of

1091
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: these teams. I actually think Washington might be my lock

1092
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: of the week here.

1093
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: Oh again, okay, yes, two double.

1094
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: Barrel of the week. Yeah, not double barrel, but yeah,

1095
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: double lock.

1096
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna pound him.

1097
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: I think Washington State is just not good at all.

1098
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: And Washington they've played well after the first half against

1099
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: Colorado State, it was like what you see, Davis, But

1100
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: I just think there's too much firepower there. I think

1101
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: they're gonna win this game, especially since it's a revenge spot.

1102
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: I think they win this game by twenty eight.

1103
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: Three or four. Other notable games here, Okay, Oregon big

1104
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: by the way as well. Yeah, I tend to agree

1105
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: with that.

1106
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1107
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: North Texas on the road at Army Man.

1108
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: It was a weird game last year.

1109
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: It was weird game last year. But North Texas with

1110
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: Drew west mestermaker, excuse me, Yeah, it's been very solid.

1111
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: Give me the mean green here minus the number on

1112
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: the road at Army. Army savored by two and a

1113
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: half points at home.

1114
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking Army here. You know why? You how many

1115
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: points North Texas scored last season against Army three three points,

1116
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: three points. They lost this game eteen three fourteen three. Yes,

1117
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: it is a revenge spot. I just don't like the

1118
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: actual spot that this game is being played in. Four

1119
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: North Texas traveling across the country, so Army is the

1120
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: home dog. They made the quarterback change after Charleton State

1121
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: and worked out against Kansas State. I'm going with Army

1122
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: here at home as a.

1123
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: Dog UNLV on the road at Miami Ohio, Miami ohioway

1124
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: two and a half point home underdog. I am on

1125
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: UNLV as of my fighting. Dan Mullens YEP three point

1126
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: thirty ESPN plus it is JMU the Dukes on the

1127
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: road at a Liberty. This line has come down. Actually,

1128
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why. I like James Madison. I'm not

1129
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: quite sure what's going on with Liberty right now. I

1130
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: expected a lot more from them, So give me JMU,

1131
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: give me the Dukes. I like them winning on the

1132
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: road at Liberty. It's not quite as big a game

1133
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: now as we thought it was going to be in

1134
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: the preseason, but nonetheless JMU still has a ton of play.

1135
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: For give me the Dukes.

1136
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really a crazy road game about an

1137
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: hour and a half apart in Virginia. I'm going JMU

1138
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: big here. Didn't like how sloppy Liberty was against I

1139
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: want to say, Bowling Green with all the turnovers last week,

1140
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: So I'm going JMU by a couple of touchdowns.

1141
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: And three point thirty. On the Peacock Network, Purdue making

1142
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: the trip up to South Bend. Notre Dame is favored

1143
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: by about twenty five twenty six points. I was disheartened

1144
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: this week reading the number of tweets that were sent

1145
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: to many of our friends. Pete Sampson, I thought jess

1146
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: Smetana got a couple of these, a bunch of the

1147
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: Notre Dame personalities that we know and love. People riding

1148
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: in and asking is Marcus Freeman's still the guy to

1149
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: lead this program? Is he the guy you want to

1150
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: talk about? An over friggin reaction to a loss? Two

1151
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: losses now, oh and two start for Notre Dame. Marcus

1152
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: Freeman got this team to a national championship a year

1153
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: ago basically by running the quarterback, and by running with

1154
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Price, and by throwing a lot

1155
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: to tight ends, and by sort of feeling their way

1156
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: through the playoffs with virtually no passing game. Okay, this

1157
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: was a pickleball offense. They won with defense. They did

1158
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: a hell of a job. They deserve to be there.

1159
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: I think they absolutely have their guy and Marcus Freeman,

1160
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: no two ways about it.

1161
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

1162
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: The question that with Marcus Freeman is around the coordinator

1163
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: hires at this point, and I think you're right to

1164
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: bring up, as I know you have, as I have,

1165
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: is this guy good when it comes to actually hiring

1166
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: coordinators that can help support the broader mission. I'm not

1167
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: sure of that answer right now with respect to their

1168
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: defense and Chris ash because what it looks like to

1169
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: me is a defense is a team that has a

1170
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: ton of talent on that side of the ball, but

1171
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: they're committing too many penalties. They're getting pushed around against

1172
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: the run, They're not getting any pressure on quarterbacks. It's

1173
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: a secondary that seems like it is not communicating as

1174
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: well as it did a year ago. There is a

1175
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: lot that needs to be tied it up on that

1176
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I am not here to say

1177
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: that Perdue is going to push that envelope. I think

1178
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame will win this one going away. I think

1179
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: they're going to run the ever loving crap out of

1180
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: the ball and they will start to work in some

1181
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: new concepts for CJ. Carr, we will see perhaps a

1182
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: little bit more down the field. To guys like Jane Greathhouse, Okay,

1183
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: I think they'll be fine in this matchup. But to

1184
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: the people out there who are asking about Marcus Freeman,

1185
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: my response is you're asking the wrong question. We should

1186
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: be asking about Chris ash. Perhaps if the offense doesn't

1187
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: go nuclear at some point this season, we can ask

1188
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: some questions about Mike Denbrock. The question surrounding Marcus Freeman

1189
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: is not about whether he's the guy. It's about whether

1190
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: or not he can solve some of these issues in

1191
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: real time with the coordinators that he has brought on

1192
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: to the staff. Okay, and that's going to remain the

1193
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: question until we see otherwise. They've got a really big

1194
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 1: five week stretch here now, they still have a lot

1195
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: to play for. I know it's a popular talking point

1196
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: to write Notre Dame completely out of this playoff, Chase.

1197
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest with you here, it's still

1198
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: going to be a rather slim margin for them if

1199
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: they want to get back in. But it is only

1200
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: week four. There is a lot that is going to

1201
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: break between now and the end of the season, so

1202
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: it's there for Notre Dame. But they got to fix

1203
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: things quickly, and they've got about five weeks to do it,

1204
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: because these next five weeks are going to be everything.

1205
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: The remainder of the schedule, after you get past that

1206
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: USC game in the middle of October, they should be

1207
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: able to win most of those games pretty easily, all right,

1208
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: famous last words. I suppose they could always drop one,

1209
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: but at time of recording, it looks like those games

1210
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: are very, very, very winnable for Notre Dame. It is

1211
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: what they do over these next five weeks I think

1212
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: that determine everything and whether or not they can turn

1213
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: this defense around in very short order, to me, is

1214
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest telltale.

1215
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: And if they lose, if they lose to Purdue, if.

1216
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: They lose, obviously over at that point from Mark Freeman,

1217
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: not for Marcus Freeman, but for any playoff chances. Now

1218
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: I know that I don't think they're going to lose

1219
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: the Purdue. I think they're gonna win this game going away.

1220
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: But what they do against teams like Boise State, team

1221
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: like an Arkansas, certainly a team like an NC State

1222
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: who they've got coming up USC These are some big

1223
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: matchups that are in front of them, and I think

1224
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 1: Notre Dame needs to take them seriously. Notre Dame needs

1225
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: to go with purpose, and they need to figure out

1226
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: this defense first and foremost. The offense will sort itself

1227
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: out in my opinion, But defensively, I don't like anything

1228
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: of what we have seen so far. It feels like

1229
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: all the goodwill they built up over the course of

1230
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: the last couple of years has evaporated overnight. Chris Ash

1231
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: may not be the guy. And if he isn't the guy,

1232
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: I hope Marcus Freeman takes matters into his own hands

1233
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: and either turns it over to Mike Mickens or starts

1234
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: Colin plays himself. But the Chris Ash thing, if it

1235
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: doesn't work this week, if it doesn't work, let's say

1236
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 1: in the next two weeks, they've got to figure something

1237
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: out relatively quickly. Because I do not think in all

1238
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: honesty they are fully out of this thing yet. But

1239
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: they have to show that they understand the assignment and

1240
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: they can get better in a hurry, and that Marcus

1241
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: Freeman has answers.

1242
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: And that all rides on getting their first win on September.

1243
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: Twentieth against Purdue Perdue. I like where Purdue's at. I

1244
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: think they have showed some encouraging signs here, but they

1245
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: are very very new under Bary otom. Yeah, showed a

1246
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: little bit of fight against USC, so kudos to them,

1247
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: but Notre Dame going away at home. They need this

1248
01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: one now more than ever. All right, looking for an

1249
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: optimal quad this week. By the way, my.

1250
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: Question to you is how bad you really want place.

1251
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: It's dawn on me that this is sort of the

1252
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: opposite of the window of opportunity. You know, if you're

1253
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: going to be in front of the TV and if

1254
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: you want to get the maximum dosage of college football

1255
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,959
Speaker 1: in week four, your optimal slate is in the afternoon. Okay,

1256
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: if you can build the quad either through your streaming

1257
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: service or manually of many people who do it manually

1258
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: and send us pictures all the time, whatever floats your boat.

1259
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: At three point thirty, you've got Auburn on the road

1260
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, You've got Michigan on the road at Nebraska,

1261
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: You've got Tulane on the road at Old miss which

1262
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: I think could be damn interesting. And then if you

1263
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: give it a half hour, you've got NC State on

1264
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: the road at Duke, which is going to be a

1265
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: crazy interesting acc matchup. I had many options here. I

1266
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: don't think you have as many options early. You definitely

1267
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: have some interesting options late. But for me, if you

1268
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: want to really capture the flavor of the week, and

1269
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: if you want to make sure that as many conferences

1270
01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: as possible are represented, look in the afternoon that makes

1271
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: sense to you.

1272
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 2: It does.

1273
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: With that being said, if you do need to be out,

1274
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: if you do need to be amongst the people, if

1275
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: you do not have a way that you can be

1276
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: in front of your TV, but you have to find

1277
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: some way to get out there and do something on Saturday.

1278
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: It may go without saying based on what I just said,

1279
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: but do it anytime before four pm Eastern time. That's

1280
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: your window. Okay, okay, that's your window to go out,

1281
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: be amongst people, catch the community showing of cats, go

1282
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: to a movie. I don't even know what movies are in.

1283
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: Now, man, I might move my window to night time.

1284
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, we can't take the window at night. We

1285
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: got to do a mid ice stream. I know we can't.

1286
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think the afternoon ones are pretty

1287
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: spicy to me.

1288
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: I just want to watch Illinois Indiana. I want to

1289
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Speaker 1: make sure that you watch Illinois Indiana. I think that

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01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: game is very quietly one of the big ones. Florida

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: versus Miami is probably more of a narrative game, but

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Speaker 1: there is so much intrigue with respect to that. Baylor

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Speaker 1: Arizona State's going to be fun as hell. There gonna

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01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: be a lot of points, yeah, I would expect in

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: that game. And then you've got some other ones in

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Speaker 1: the night that are also interesting. Again from a narrative perspective,

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01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: South Carolina MISSOO could be really interesting. You look at

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Speaker 1: some of our under the radar games, right, maybe you

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Speaker 1: just like watching rivalries. Why not watch Washington against Washington

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01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: State Dan's lock of the week. Let's see what happens there.

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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of reasons to be

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01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: excited about that nightcap, but earlier for me looks like

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: the window if you need to get out.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Also notable UCF, Scott Frost and Bill

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01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 2: Belichick playing a football game against each other, setting up

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01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 2: for in a couple of weeks. It's the Chapel Thrill

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Speaker 2: series with Chris Ludacris Bridges.

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Speaker 1: I believe that UCF is favored by about a touchdown

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Speaker 1: in that game.

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01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: UCF is favored here. Troy Buffalo seemed a lot more

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: interesting before the season started. But Buffalo had a competitive

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01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: game against Minnesota to start out the year, but then

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Speaker 2: not so competitive. I want to say it's Kent State

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01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: last week that they almost lost. Are unfortunately competitive against

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Speaker 2: Kent State, so that game is interesting to me. Kansas

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01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: West Virginia was bonkers in West Virginia in a huge

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Speaker 2: letdown spot. Now against what could be a really fun

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Speaker 2: Kansas offense in Lawrence. Air Force Boise is always kind

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Speaker 2: of interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: Boise.

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Speaker 2: I think coming off of a bye, they've only played

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Speaker 2: two games, whatever it is, and air Force is a

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Speaker 2: dog at home. That's just interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: Ken point home dog I've got written down here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Utsa, Colorado State is interesting to me because Colorado

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Speaker 2: State has been not good this year. As the kids say,

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01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: cheeks Utsa one of the weirder schedules and more difficult schedules,

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01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: but I think UTSA is able to take this one

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Speaker 2: on the road at Colorado State. Also of note, Tennessee

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: is going to try to exercise some of those Georgia

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: demons against UAB, who is awful, and Tennessee might win

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01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: that game seventy seven to three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we should probably make a game here on

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Speaker 1: this show, just because we've seen it a lot in

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: the early going. We should probably have some sort of

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01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: like seventy Survivor pool where we get to pick one

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01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: team each week we think is going to get to seventy.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I looked at Tennessee. I think there's

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01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: a really good chance that they get to seventy. I

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01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: looked at Washington against Wazoo.

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Speaker 2: I think we're about Florida State getting Kent State a.

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Speaker 1: Really good chance. Florida State is probably going to try

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: to get to eighty if at all possible. Those would

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Speaker 1: probably be my three selections if I'm being honest here.

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Speaker 1: There's definitely a game to be had there. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: something we could talk about on the next episode.

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Speaker 2: My key number here is fifty. Will arch Manning complete

1348
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: fifty percent of his passes against Sam Houston better favored

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: by forty and a half. The other one that's interesting

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01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: to me just from a narrative and lion standpoint, Louisville's

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01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: favored by nearly what twenty seven twenty eight points against

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01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: Bowling Green, who just be liberty. Bowling Green hasn't been amazing,

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01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: but they generate a bunch of turnovers. They need to

1354
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: get way better penalty wise. But Eddie George now has

1355
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: a cat that is the unofficial mascot of the program,

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 2: and he's allergic to cats, love it, but he still

1357
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 2: pets the cat.

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Speaker 1: Love it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, throwing Miller mass into that equation. Bowling

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: Green covers that score, covers that spread.

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: Spread right now twenty six and a half points.

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Speaker 2: One final favorite tie. Can you drop that big, stanky, luscious,

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01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: creamy tempting sat rum in five?

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Speaker 1: Baby oh baby, oh baby, oh baby, O baby baby.

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Speaker 1: I believe we've got Patriot League versus IVY League this week, Dan,

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01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: do we not?

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: True?

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01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: We do in a bunch of cases. It is Patriot League,

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01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: it is IVY League. None of these IVY League teams

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01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: have played any games very difficult perhaps some week four

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: yips I don't know. Yeah, Friday night, six pm, Columbia.

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Speaker 1: Oh and O on the road at your Lafayette fighting Leopards, Dan,

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01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: who you got?

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Speaker 2: Columbia doesn't stand a chance, not in that environment. Give

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: me Lafia pick.

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: I am with you. When you go to Fisher Stadium.

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: You never know if you will emerge unscathed. Gimme the Yeties. Yes,

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: Saturday High noon, Georgetown on the road versus Brown. You're

1379
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: not gonna believe it. Brown undefeated but also winless zero

1380
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: and zero. Give me the Hoyas on the road. What

1381
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: the hell?

1382
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: It's too difficult a place to go to Rhode Islands.

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: We'd give me Brown.

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01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: Really, yes, I need to take the music down. Are

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01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: you sure?

1386
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely positive? Holy Cross?

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Speaker 1: Oh and three on the road at the Yalies, also

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01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: winless but have not played a game. Oh and O

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Speaker 1: it's week four, guys, what are we doing? Gimme holy Cross?

1390
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: Give me Yale better. Pizza town?

1391
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: Is it?

1392
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: It's new Haven? Yeah?

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: Of course I had no idea.

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't know New Haven Pizza.

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: I know Mystic Pizza. I know that's in the Great.

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: Marie High but b Haven is just like it's an

1397
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: international pizza Capital Saturday.

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01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: At one Fordham oh and three, Colgate oh and three.

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01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: Somebody's gotta win, Dan, this is Patriot League on Patriot

1400
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: League crime. Who do we got?

1401
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm going Gators slowly, they play that very slow. I

1402
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 2: have no idea. I'm talking about Colgate's gonna win by three.

1403
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: Give me Hammies. Let's go Hanmies. Wow foredam Yeah. Saturday

1404
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: two pm vm I one and two, Richmond one and two.

1405
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: Who do we got? I'm going Spiders. Give me the Spiders.

1406
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, my Spider Census Tingling. Give me a regimend here.

1407
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: And last, but not least, this is the big Saturday

1408
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: primetime game in the Patriot League six pm Eastern Time.

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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 1: It is Lehigh three and zero. It is the Bucknell

1410
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: Bison at two and one. Dan, I gotta go Mountain Hawks,

1411
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: even though even though they're away from Goodman Stadium. Yeah,

1412
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: give me the Mountain Hawks.

1413
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm going Lee High wone Engineers by third team.

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01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: There you have it, folks again, get in on the

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Speaker 1: Viory not a sponsor, absolutely could be twelve games on

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Speaker 1: the slate. Over the course of our last two episodes,

1419
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: we have talked about all of them. It is a

1420
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: twelve game pick them game against the spread. If at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season you finish in the top five,

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01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: you get a coveted seat on our board of trustees.

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Speaker 1: But over the short term, if you sign up for

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Speaker 1: any tier, certified or premium, any paid tier, I should

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Speaker 1: You can play in the game. You can also get

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Speaker 1: these episodes without the ads. A little bit early. You

1428
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 1: can vote in over baller Top twelve poll, which drops

1429
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Speaker 1: early on Sunday morning. You can get access to our discord.

1430
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Speaker 1: You can be part of the broader community overballers. If

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Speaker 1: nothing more, you have the peace of mind and knowing

1432
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: that you're helping Dan and I keep the lights on,

1433
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: agree that it is where we're at. Oh, one other

1434
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: thing here, I did want to mention this. Oh, okay,

1435
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: we have two longtime listeners, Scott and Katrina. Okay, they

1436
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 1: wanted me to do a dramatic announcement. Oh God, apparently

1437
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: we wish their in laws a happy anniversary seven years ago.

1438
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: Now did they pay you for this. It did not

1439
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: pay me for this.

1440
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, ty, your time is valuable.

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: It is valuable. I want to congratulate Scott and Katrina,

1442
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,520
Speaker 1: who are expecting a baby.

1443
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 2: Dan, Wait, how did they make it?

1444
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: We can't talk about that here.

1445
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: How do they make it? How do you make a baby?

1446
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: Tye thing?

1447
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: Here? Where is it? Hold on? Not talking about this?

1448
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: Wait? Hold on? How did they get to this point physically?

1449
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: What did they do?

1450
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: Not talking about this? Ty?

1451
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: The suspense here. We're all adults here.

1452
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Scott and Katrina expecting a baby, and yes

1453
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: it is a girl. Congratulations whoa Congratulations Scott, Congratulations Katrina.

1454
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh however you made it? Congrats?

1455
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: Congrats. There you go, all right, Dan Ruberts Week four

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01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: the preview episode in the Books Week four, though for

1457
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: sure there will be drama in store. If you are interested,

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: please do stop by the YouTube channel live midnight Eastern

1459
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. Dan and I do the full recap

1460
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: last week. I could barely keep my eyes open. It

1461
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: was an emotional roller coaster after that A and M game,

1462
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: But I've managed to do so admirably, Thank you very much.

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01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully I will have a little bit more energy this week,

1464
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: being so Notre Dame does not have an emotional ringer

1465
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: to put me through, at least I hope they don't.

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01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: With Perdue coming to town.

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01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: If Notre Dame loses to Purdue, can we go live

1468
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: right after the game.

1469
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: If Notre Dame loses to Perdue, I'm quitting the show. Ooh,

1470
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm it's it's a career. Like who should I bring

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: in as the new co ho that's up to you.

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01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 2: That's up to you.

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01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: I'll produce, you know, I'll edit, I'll cut, I'll help

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01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: you with video or whatever. But if yeah, if there's

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 1: any sort of Rex out there for who Dan can

1476
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: replace me?

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01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: Man McConaughey has been texting me NonStop.

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01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: Okay, whoever listen, that's on you. I will just serve

1479
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: as the quiet producer, Yeah, hanging out in the background.

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01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: But I'm done. I'm done with college football. If they

1481
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: lose the Purdue, okay, fair enough. Give people out there something.

1482
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 2: Show is really going to take off. How horrible would

1483
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: that be? If Notre Dame were to lose to Purdue.

1484
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: You drop off of Mike and then the show just

1485
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: explodes in popularity. That's probably the moment. Oh my God,

1486
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:39,480
Speaker 2: just the delta. The growth of the show is astronomical.

1487
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 2: To the moon people just waiting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, eight five five verbal three is the reaver blind.

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01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: I am cutting them again this week. She is still

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01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: out of town. So if you got anything to say,

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Speaker 1: do it before like nine thirty pm Eastern time. I

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Speaker 1: need a bit more.

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Speaker 2: That's reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Eight five five verbal three. That's that's the number, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein. It's always a pleasure to speak with you,

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01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: Always pleasure to be here in the verballerhood talking through

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Speaker 1: all of the games that we have in store. We

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Speaker 1: will be back again on Saturday night. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: tune into that live stream, hit file, hit subscribe if

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Speaker 1: rating or review.

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Speaker 2: All of that stuff helps. Thank you one, thank you all.

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Speaker 1: For supporting what we do. We'll catch you all on

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Stay safe, peace,