1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama. Girl Drama Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for Drama, Queen's Girl Fashion. But 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: you'll tough, girl. You could sit with us Girl Drama Queens, Drama, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama Drawn MC, Queen's Drama, Queens, Oh 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Our Friends. This was episode seven, Let the Rains Go Loose. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Original air date November two, two thousand four. Um. I 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: love that trick was in its full glory in this episode. 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: It is the opening of Karen's truck Club Trick and 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: it brings together the people of tree Hill very messy Um, 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Lucas and Felix come to blows over Anna, which is 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: weird after after Chris Keller, a dreamboat h he quits 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: his gig the night of the club opening, Haley must 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: face her fear of performing to save the night for Peyton, 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: and although Marvin tends to brook while she's drunk, Felix 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: sneaks in and attempts to take the credit, and Keith 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: and Jules realized their relationship has moved on to the 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: next level, while Dan deliberately and maliciously tells Karen that 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Deb slept with Keith. There's a lot in this lost, 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: A lot happened. Oh, I don't even know where to start. Well, 22 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: I know where to start, because you nailed it, Joy, 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: you nailed it with your Felix analysis. Give it to us. 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: Felix is Dan in the making. And I saw it 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: in the moment when Felix leaned down and made the 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: choice to lie to Brook And it's it's the same 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: choice that Dan makes when he's on the phone with 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the doctor and he lies to Deb. It's just the same. 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, go backwards, rewind twenty years, 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: and you can see how those choices can turn you eventually, 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: turn you into a dance scot a monster, a monster. 32 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: Felix is already a monster. Like we said it last week, 33 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna say it again this week. So sorry if 34 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: you're sick of it. But I genuinely cannot understand Hannah's 35 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: deep seated fear of her brother's opinion about who she's kissing, 36 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: Like super weird, the thing that was the weirdest to me, 37 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: and all of it's weird, And I just keep thinking 38 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: about goats because he's getting them. This is dark ages, 39 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: the dowry for the woman. It's so creepy. Why she 40 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: supposed that they needs approval, Hilary, you said it when 41 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: we were watching the episode, like, did anyone in the 42 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: writer's room have siblings? What was going on? Honestly, I 43 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: think all must be only children who are like man. 44 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: I bet there's like a family vote at dinner to 45 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: see who can go out with you. He did, He did, 46 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: imply though, something happened in the last town that they 47 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: were in, and I don't know how that was okay. 48 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: But here's my issue is he's like he's mad because 49 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: she's alone, topless in a photo booth. She didn't give 50 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: that photo to Lucas, she kept it for herself. And 51 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: he's saying, you know you're gonna bring rumors on this family. 52 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: It's like a pox on both your houses. Type of weird. 53 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: And meanwhile, she has, as Hillary said, pecked Lucas. Where 54 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: is banging Brooke? And she's the shameful one, like a 55 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: girl having any sexuality is bad. And to make it weirder, 56 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: after Lucas and Felix get into it and they come 57 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: to fisticuffs. Great word. She apologizes to Think. She apologizes 58 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: to Lucas and says, Lucas, you don't deserve this, And 59 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: it's like, no, Anna, baby girl, you don't deserve this. 60 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: This testosterone fest over your purity is ridiculous. That's how 61 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: I feel about it. But was it the last episode? 62 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: So the last episode, Lucas drops uh and off at 63 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: her house and Felix sees it in front of you 64 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: in the kisses are in front of Brooke Davis's house 65 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: and Davis is also on the porch. Boy does not 66 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: learn anything from the new experiences, and so is it 67 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: any wonder? Everything is just a mess with guys Like 68 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: this is when you meet a girl that goes to 69 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: a rival high school who doesn't know any of your friends, 70 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you have to break 71 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: out of your circle, which I think is a healthy 72 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: thing to do. Did you, guys break out of your 73 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: circles in high school? I did? Yeah. I don't know 74 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: if I ever had a circle. I think I kind 75 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: of bounced around. But yeah, sometimes you want to go 76 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: hang out with kids that just aren't a part of 77 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah I did that when I joined a gospel choir, 78 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: when I was a sophomore. There was a lot of 79 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: girls in there that weren't in my regular circle of friends, 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: and um, but it was cool. I learned a lot 81 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: and like, it's but to be able to connect with 82 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: people outside of who you're naturally drawn to, Yeah, I 83 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: mean I had to. I definitely broke out of my 84 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: school circle because I went to a tiny old girls 85 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: school and my high school sweetheart was my best friend 86 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: from camp since I was nine, which is so sweet. 87 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Summer camp so sweet. But man, let me tell you 88 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: what did not prepare me for the real world at all, 89 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: because I was like, I grew up on the Wonder 90 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: Years what like you were, Winnie Cooper, Like I didn't 91 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: have any understanding of dynamics. So it's hilarious to, like, god, 92 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: to watch Brooke Davis just have such like such intense energy, 93 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: like are we talking about this big dick energy? Because 94 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: that scene was hilarious. My delight of this episode was 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Brooke Davis bringing a rider to Felix and just being like, 96 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: these are my these are my boundaries, these are my rules. 97 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: I want to create a writer. What's my writer? You're you? Honestly, 98 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: though pre nuptial agreement. I don't know, but you were right, 99 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: and I honestly I feel like I failed at not 100 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: noting ever when the Big Dick energy became a thing 101 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: that it is Brooke Davis energy and the ass are 102 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: the same, like, oh my god, oh my god, it's brow. 103 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: But you guys were watching the episode and we watched 104 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: that scene and I literally was like, God, I wish 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: I was ever that cool or confident. She doesn't, and 106 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: it's inspiring. Granted, it's attractive, it is attractive, but I 107 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: also have to say that there is the moment where 108 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: I think, like, granted, she's coping by seeking validation from 109 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: a boy, but also a lot of people cope by 110 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: seeking validation from relationships. Is a validation, She's just seeking 111 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: like comfort at this point, Like everybody's got love languages 112 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: some people, you know, physical comfort is some people's love language. 113 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: And it's like, this is this is a gift time 114 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: giving to myself right now, Like I don't give a 115 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: about you. This is a gift to myself perspective. I'm 116 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: just saying it doesn't necessarily have to be self medication 117 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: so much as as I've earned this deserves to kiss 118 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: my neck, kiss my neck right now, I want somebody's 119 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: face on my back. Yeah, okay, I'm open to it. 120 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm so curious with the viewers seeing it too well, 121 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: right now they think I'm a pervert. They're like, she's 122 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: well within her rights to say these are the terms 123 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: of the agreement. I am feeling a lot of big 124 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: feelings right now. So I have nothing to give you. 125 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: If you want to make each other comfortable, Okay, here 126 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: are my rules. I don't know how much Brook is covering. 127 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't think she's attracted to Felix, but I don't either. Now, Yeah, 128 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: she's she's pushing up. I think she's pushing a lot 129 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: down because we know all the things that she's struggling 130 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: with and all the things she's dealing with. I mean, 131 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal to admit that you've sold 132 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: your blood. Like joined that scene with you and I 133 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: didn't remember shooting it, but good god, it made me 134 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: happy to watch. That was so cute. It was really funny. 135 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: But I don't remember it at all, but it was 136 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,119 Speaker 1: it was really funny. They definitely found the most discount 137 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: rack kind of like, uh, looking storied would like the 138 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: place that Brooke would never be caught dead in Yeah, 139 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: the place that I like to go to, like to 140 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: troll the goodwill and see what what gems are in 141 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: the racks, Like any thrift store in a small town 142 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: when I'm on a road trip, I'm in it. That's 143 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: how we find our calftans. Oh god, but it's definitely 144 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: not a brook Davis. Should we wear all of our 145 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: vento Calftan's in the next taping? Uh? Yeah, that's a 146 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: great idea. Idea, that's a great idea. I can't talk today, Okay, 147 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: so let's go back to that Dan scene. Um, let's 148 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: follow the chronology of our story here with Dan coming 149 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: into the cafe and being grown up, Felix freaking liar, 150 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: and Karen telling him you're creeping everybody, this phoenix rising 151 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: from the ashes nobody. She's the only one who sees 152 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: through it all and is not willing to give him 153 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: second chances. She's not over there like, oh damn good 154 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: at heart, She's like, no, he's an asshole. She doesn't 155 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: buy it. She's like, you're doing thing. It's weird to 156 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: kill stop it. I've known since kindergarten. Danny and then 157 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: Paul made such an interesting choice because he played. Look, 158 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: that revelation was mean spirited. For Dan Scott to say 159 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: to Karen, of course Keith and Deb had sex, and 160 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: he did it in such a gentle way and say, no, 161 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I've no me, it's not fake. I've even forgiven my 162 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: brother and my wife, even because he knew he was 163 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna step that that thorn right into her side. Oh yeah, man, 164 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: that was ugly. And then she she held it. She 165 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: held it for the entire episode. And what's great about 166 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: Moira is that she never references it, but you see 167 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: her carry it because it's like that Andy walks in, 168 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, Deb's in the cafe working with her, Keith 169 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: comes in to say hello. Keith, by the way, never 170 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: even looks over in Deb's direction, which is the biggest 171 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: tell tale side. I wish there would have been some 172 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: kind of like active ignoring, you know, where you're They're 173 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: like the looks but they don't see. But would have 174 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: been interesting. No, No, they just He's like, I'm not 175 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: even going to look behind the counter. There's no one 176 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: else here but Karen. And then Andy comes in. But 177 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: that timing was so great. I love come in and 178 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: the tiny T shirt I had one made for Lucas 179 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: little Lucas baby size. Oh my god, it's so funny. Yeah, 180 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: that was a fun scene. And I like that the 181 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: adults are getting this much time to play. This was 182 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: maybe the fun episode for the adults. There were so 183 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: many things going on. Oh, oh my gosh. And there's 184 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: one thing we didn't talk about in the last episode 185 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: because we had such a love fest with Miriam and 186 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: new Knows. But guys, as we're watching Andy and Karen's relationship, 187 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I forgot his name for a second. As we're watching 188 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: Andy and Karen's relationship developed, we realized that the property 189 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: in the last episode that Andy supposedly bought is a 190 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: beautiful botanical garden in Wilmington called Airly Gardens. And they 191 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: have that romantic first date and they have their little 192 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: hand touching moment and the meteors are falling. We want 193 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: to know how many of y'all have gotten married, big 194 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: life events at Early Gardens. We want to see your photos, 195 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: show us Andy's backyard. Our guys, help us paint this 196 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: picture because we're excited about it. And and in the 197 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: last episode and in this episode, we just keep coming 198 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: back to what great chemistry these two have together. The 199 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: electricity of that first handhold. And then in this episode 200 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: the first kiss, Oh my god, it was it was. 201 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: He nailed that. It was a good kiss. It was 202 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: all silhouetted, and I loved that he was just so 203 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: unconcerned with the fact that he's younger than her and 204 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: it's not much. I don't even really see much of 205 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: an age difference there. What's the number? I don't know, 206 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean love it. Yeah, we 207 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: know the Jewels is six and Keith is older than 208 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: Karen and zero conversation about that happening. Yeah, yeah, No, 209 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm hot for it. I think it's a great idea. 210 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: And his what's his line? He's She's like, doesn't this 211 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: look off? And then he's like he kisses her and 212 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: he's like, doesn't feel off? Like oh, and then he 213 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: just walks away. Yeah. I just like the energy of it. 214 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: And you're right, nobody ever references it with Keith and Jules. 215 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: It's a weird thing, and maybe it maybe it's sticks 216 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: out to us too, because we knew it was a 217 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: bunch of dudes writing that, like, how could this younger 218 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: man want to be with this older woman but she's older? 219 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: What a what a crazy and so maybe that's why 220 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: we're like ill. But it was cool that if it 221 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: had to be a topic of conversation, he said, I 222 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: don't care, and she, by the way, didn't care at 223 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: all when he was like, I thought your son was six, 224 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: and she's kind of like, yeah, your assumption. I didn't 225 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: say exactly. You know, Andy went into that whole thing 226 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: on their date about how how my single mother raised me, 227 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: and I have a great appreciation for Like I wish 228 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: my mother had gone back to school. I appreciate how 229 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: hard she worked all that kind of stuff. I think 230 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: there is a thing about boys with single moms who 231 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: appreciate like strong women and can appreciate other single mothers 232 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: in a way that maybe other dudes can't. And so 233 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: he's naturally drawn to someone who reminds him of a 234 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: woman he really deeply respects. You know. That's that's comforting 235 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: when you can say I know what this cycle looks like, 236 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: I've seen how this plays out. I like that for myself. 237 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: I want it. I do think it was realistic that 238 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: Karen has the concern that he's younger, because she does 239 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: have a teenage son and she seems done like I don't. 240 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure Karen's ready to have another baby, and 241 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: so you know that maybe an issue when an older 242 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: woman is dating a younger man, like are you actually 243 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: going to be okay with this? I mean, there's a 244 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: lot of practical application things to think about, and um, 245 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that I can't remember. 246 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Does she have another baby? She doesn't? Right? She and 247 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Andy with Keith? Wait, Karen, doesn't she have a baby 248 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: with Keith? And then he dies and then Andy helps 249 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: her raise It? Is that real? Is that what happens? 250 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: Is that what happens on our show? It happens much later. Well, regardless, 251 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: in this moment, I think Karen is, you know, feeling 252 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: like where she's at in life is maybe not where 253 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: a woman who is Andy's age would be. And so 254 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: that is a real consideration. And and is it worth 255 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: walking down this road with someone who I really like 256 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: if we're not going to be headed in the same 257 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: direction in life? Oh? I was totally right. Karen gives 258 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: birth to her and Keith's daughter, Lily Rose Scott, and 259 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: then she meets Andy and they get back together and 260 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: she travels around the world with him. Guys, we have 261 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: the best producers on our show, because the second you 262 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: guys are amazing, I feel good. I feel validated. Um yeah. 263 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: I also, you can be the same age as someone 264 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: and completely be different emotionally, because I know friends who 265 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: are empty nesters. Now I have friends who are just 266 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: having their first kids or have decided not to have 267 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: kids at all, and are free traveling the world acting 268 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: like we're still nineteen years old and we're all the 269 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: same exact age. And so I've had those moments where 270 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: I feel like the dinosaur because I've got the older kid, 271 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: and you know, like my life just feels so much 272 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: more settled than some of my other peers. Um. And 273 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: so I understand why Karen, at in her mid thirties, 274 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: might feel ten or fifteen years older. She's always been 275 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: the youngest mom in the school pickup line, she's always 276 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: been the youngest mom at the PTA meetings, and so 277 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: she just kind of ages herself up because that's how 278 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: you fit in m Those local jeans tell a story, 279 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: though she saying such a that's what I was about 280 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: to say. She's she does this in such a cool way, 281 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: And I do feel like in season two they let 282 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: Moira as Karen dress more her age, act more her age. 283 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: They weren't like putting all the moms and polo shirts 284 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: and khakis anymore. And even when because we got Carol 285 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: cut Shall exactly, and even when Karen catches us doing 286 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: silly like you know, when Lucas teeses are about breaking 287 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: curfew or she catches Brook, you know, having used a 288 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: fake I D. She's not like giving your fake I D. 289 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: But she's like, give me your hand. I'm cutting that 290 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: wristband off. You don't drink in my in my club. 291 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: You know, she's she's cool. She doesn't think that these 292 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: kids are like porcelain dolls, but she's trying to set 293 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: good examples for them. Well, she did have a baby 294 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: right out of high school, like she Yeah, I mean 295 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: she's not a square um, and so I like her 296 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: her version of parenting. You're right where she's just like 297 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: I did it, Hey, yeah, I did it. I did 298 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: it first. Um, let's talk about Karen's club trick, because 299 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: Joy that night, like the first night that we were there, 300 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: you said it. You're like, oh my god, the line 301 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: outside of tricky. I totally remember that. I had a 302 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: visceral muscle memory of looking out that door and seeing 303 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: all those people there for the first time. It was 304 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: so cool to see that place all filled up. So 305 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: if what do you remember from that episode? Oh? Man, 306 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: you know what's so funny. I remember that green dress. 307 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: I remember you in the trip T shirt like I 308 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: remember that night joy. I remember your ponytail, like you 309 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: were doing that hair was perfect. Oh my god, I 310 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: just remember it. And I remember how fun it was 311 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: for me to get to work with Lee so much 312 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: because I had so much fun working with him. You know, 313 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: Lee had become and still is like one of my 314 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: closest friends and and really is like a brother to me. 315 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: And it was special to, you know, work on that 316 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: storyline together, this unrequited love between Mouth and Brooke, and 317 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: she looks at it as this safe friendship and he 318 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: doesn't want to violate that yet he loves her. And 319 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: and we really talked about, you know, our limited at 320 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: twenty two, you know, relationship experience, and when we've missed 321 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: things and when we've been scared, and he talked about, 322 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, shared with me a lot of what it 323 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: was like growing up as a person who was famous 324 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: from Boy's World and from the Pinkest and and he 325 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: felt like he got to represent a lot of kids 326 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: in that storyline, and we were so glad that it 327 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: never got inappropriate or weird. Um because there was a 328 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: moment where he's putting you to bed, and I was like, 329 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: don't kiss or don't kiss or don't kiss her any 330 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: because he didn't such a good guy pass and he 331 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: won't tell Felix it's okay, and he won't even shake 332 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: his hand exactly, he won't re spawned with that fist bump, 333 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: and and it's really lovely and and Lea did such 334 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: a beautiful job, and I just remember that for us 335 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: feeling really special against the backdrop of you know so much, 336 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: that was special happening for all of us. Hillary. You 337 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 1: were bringing music and this world that you've been working 338 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: in into the show. Enjoy. You were bringing your actual 339 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: music in and and beginning to perform on the show, 340 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: and and everything just felt sparkly, like even it's starting 341 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: very meta. It was like season one. Every season one 342 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: was them all getting to know us and like figure 343 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: out what our actual interests star, what our actual passions were. 344 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: And then season two was just like how do we 345 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: exploit this? And I'm okay with it because like getting 346 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: back into hosting felt comfortable for me, Like there's certain 347 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: things that I've seen already in season to them think 348 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: about that. Hell yeah, yeah. It was when I had 349 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: to give that whole speech to the drug dealer the 350 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: first time I meet him, where I'm like music and 351 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: music can music? You know, like all this like exposition 352 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: about how music feels. I hated those monologues. Can hate it. 353 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: It's everywhere. It's just everybody. It's like they wanted me 354 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: to be Dawson, you know, it was dorky um. However, 355 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: when we got to act it rather than say it, 356 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: when we got to act it and actually hold the 357 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: microphone and be a kid, that's like, oh my god, 358 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: we're doing this. You know. It's the action as opposed 359 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: to the talking about it feels so much better. I 360 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: definitely remember filming this episode because Karen was so cute 361 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: and I have to hang out in that booth. I 362 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: got to just sit in that booth, which was elevated 363 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: enough that I got a bird's eye view of everything 364 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: that was going on in the club, and it was 365 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: so fun to kind of just be in I don't know, 366 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: it's basically where i'd be for MTV too, you know, 367 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: it was a natural habitat UM. And I loved the 368 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: scene where Peyton is like, introduced me to your friend 369 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: to Karen, just like he's a grown man. I'm sixteen. 370 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: I've also hooked up with your son. But if you 371 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: could do a girl a solid act. I just loved 372 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: Peyton trying to get in, trying to be introduced to 373 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: this guy I've never talked with the high school or 374 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: that was like super eager to get involved in my 375 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: adult conversation with some person. But did they have a 376 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: new Zealand accent? That's right? But were they that hot? 377 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember um being nervous. I remember 378 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: working on the song. They sent me a song that 379 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: I I've fixed a little bit. I mean I think 380 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: I thought I fixed it even I still remember some 381 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: of it, and I think I did make the song 382 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: a little bit better. But Um, I didn't like take 383 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: a writing credit or anything. I just kind of tweaked 384 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: it so I felt like it fit me, fit me 385 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: in my style a little bit more. Um and I 386 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: had fun. It just was nerve. It was nerve racking 387 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: because yeah, it was my first time singing in front 388 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: of everybody. And it was just me and the piano, 389 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: and it was a quiet song in a club that 390 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: definitely had like a high energy vibe, so it didn't 391 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: just felt like it didn't match. So um, I don't 392 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: know that I ever loved any of the music that 393 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: I sang on the show, even my own stuff. Do 394 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: you know who wrote wrote the song? Yeah? I don't remember. 395 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: All I wish I did. I like that you were 396 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: styled like Gwen Steffani, Like that was a very Gwen Steffani, 397 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: like a jewel song. It was like so like talking 398 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: about emo Yeah, Samahaclacklin type of songs, that type of thing. 399 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: I will remember you. Yeah, But it was fun. But 400 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: I did love the excuse used to be And this 401 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: is my first time watching Haley and feeling like I 402 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: really love seeing her go into this zone for the 403 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: first time, and I have for this is my first 404 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: time as joy being removed enough from from all of 405 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: this to watch it and and see kind of what 406 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: everybody fell in love with about Haley being um, nervous 407 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: and scared and and just all of those things. It 408 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: was exciting to watch her trajectory there and and Nathan, 409 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, marrying Tutor girl but ending up getting not 410 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 1: what he bargained for. That was interesting too. I'm excited 411 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: to see where that goes. He's so earnestly excited for 412 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: you in this and it darling like just so endearing 413 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: that the end of the episode where he's waiting up 414 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: is sweet. I mean, thankfully you're just with your girlfriend. 415 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: It's not like you're off like kissing dud the gravel 416 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: parking lot yet. But wow, wow, wow, I love during 417 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: this episode two, Tyler was so fun. I mean, everywhere 418 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: he goes, he just lights it up, lights up the room. Also, 419 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: this is when Chris Keller starts talking about himself in 420 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: the third person. That's right device they hope, can we 421 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: make this guy super fucking irritating, We're gonna have him 422 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: talk about it was a Seinfeld reference, wasn't it? Didn't 423 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: e Lane's boyfriend talk about himself in the third person, 424 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: and that made it like a cultural Did he I 425 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: didn't know that? Yeah, Lane had a boyfriend was a 426 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: putty who talked about himself in the third person? Did 427 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: putty do? I mean, I remember Putty? But did he 428 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: do that? That? That's so funny? If he did, I 429 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: feel like I'm dating myself with this. I'm old like 430 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: Karen God, I love up on Seinfeld and will Fortune. 431 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: We actually did you know what? You know what? I 432 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: thought was actually very sweet as well, just to go 433 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: back to watching some of what they gave to to 434 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: Nathan's storyline in this episode. Okay, I really liked that. 435 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: I can't remember who said it to him. Somebody said 436 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: because he's given up his basketball camp, and somebody said, 437 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: you did a good thing for Innate and Nathan says, now, 438 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: she did it all on her own, and and there's 439 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: something really lovely about that. He's he's really recognizing who 440 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: Haley is and making sure that other people are clear 441 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: on the fact that they each deserve to live their dream. 442 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: When he sits out, yeah, right, Like when he sits 443 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: out of the basketball camp in the previous episode and 444 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Dan finds out about it, you think there's going to 445 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: be drama. And then in this episode he talks to 446 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: Whitey and Whitey says that beautiful line about how you 447 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: may not be taking a step forward as a as 448 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: a basketball player, but you might be taking two steps 449 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: forward as a man. That's such a good line. I 450 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: even love his action when Chris Keller comes up and 451 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: he's clearly a little schmarmie. And you know the line 452 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: he throws at him about and how many guys want 453 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: to how to sleep with your wife? And James just 454 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: handled it so well as Nathan just kind of taking 455 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: it in. He's not a reactive, combative dude like that 456 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: part of his character from season one. But he was, Yeah, 457 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: he really was. But you get to see how much 458 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: he's grown that he's not like Lucas and Felix jumping 459 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: in like you're lucky. You know, this is my friend's club. 460 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do this in here. He doesn't 461 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: do it. He just kind of looks at him like, 462 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: all right, man, like experienced bar fights in Wilmington's. It 463 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: was you know, it's like a military town. The military 464 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: comes and like parties in our bars, and there were 465 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: there were fights all the time, all the time, all 466 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: the time. My little brother was a bouncer at level 467 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: five and would have to like carry people down those 468 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: five flights of stairs. You wouldn't you wouldn't put a 469 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: drunk person in the elevator because you know, like the 470 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: struggle continues. They like a special hold where they would 471 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: like you know, carda mountain and throw them out on 472 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: the sidew I saw my first mar fight like a 473 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: couple of months ago, my friend person. Yeah, my first 474 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: one I ever saw. I don't know. I don't hang 475 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: out enough dive bars, I guess, but I love them. 476 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: Another thing to add to the drama queens Stewar a 477 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: Baker's drama queens and dive bars. Like two am, a 478 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: couple of guys started fighting in the bar, surprisingly, like 479 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: unfettered by it. I don't know, anti climactic. I just 480 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: was kind of sitting there, like drinking my cocktail, just 481 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: watching these guys fight. I don't know, I wasn't do better. Um. 482 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: I remember when we first moved there, I was so 483 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: excited to live above Fire Belly because it was notorious 484 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: as the bar where Vince Vaughn and Steve Bishemi got 485 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: into that massive far fight and and like this one 486 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: got arrested and step got his face sliced open or 487 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: something crazy. It was like Bourbon legend in Wilmington's that 488 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: that was the bar where bad stuff happened. And so 489 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: of course when the apartment above it was available, I 490 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: was like, yes, this is I want to live there. 491 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: This is amazing, well, something that is the opposite of 492 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: a bar fight, perhaps because it felt real wholesome. But 493 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: I loved and wish we'd had more of that giant 494 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: lunch scene on the Quad. That was when we started 495 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: talking about when we saw it, why didn't we do 496 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: more of this? Why didn't we do that all the time? 497 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: And I do love that we we established trick. We 498 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: do create this all ages bar. We we create this 499 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: space where the kids get to go and have all 500 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: the experiences that have become so famous on our show. 501 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: But I realized, like, oh, man, whatever director came in 502 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: for this one set such a gray example, like David 503 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: David Payne was David. Oh, that's right. Of course. I 504 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: was so excited for him to come in because I 505 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: was a huge fan of that movie Heart and Souls 506 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: from like eight nine or something with Robert I love 507 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: that movie and he's the bus driver and I just 508 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: was kind of geeking out about this little movie that 509 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: I loved as a kid, and he came in to 510 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: direct us anyway, started digress but no, it was I mean, god, 511 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: he was the greatest. But he saw that Quad is 512 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: such an opportunity and it felt lively and fun and 513 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: so many things were happening, and it was such a 514 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: good device to then talk about, you know, the way 515 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: that the kids would splinter off, and also how they 516 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: all had so much drama, and by the way, not 517 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: just high school kids, the adults. And then there was 518 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: that like a nice drop of foreshadowing that that we 519 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: got from Anna Tagaro Daniel Alonzos little crack about how 520 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: you know she was a little closeted, but she was 521 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: talking about being an Emo fan, and I was like, 522 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: what's coming we were talking about? Yeah, she saw the 523 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: artwork on the poster. I don't know why, Why did 524 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: I hear that? That's so funny when Anna and Peyton 525 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: start talking about that band and she says, oh, I 526 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: love them, and Peyton says, oh, you're an Emo, Like 527 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: I didn't peg you for an Emo fan, and she goes, well, yeah, 528 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little closeted. I was like, we 529 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: want guys, Peyton will find it and seek it out 530 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: and pull it out and just be like, hey, let's 531 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: let's get into this here. You know. I it's so 532 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: weird watching these episodes back because I really didn't think 533 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: when we were filming it that I was being flirty 534 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: or like, um, overly friendly or anything. But I can 535 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 1: watch it now as an entirely separate person and be like, oh, 536 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: I can absolutely see why people would be like, Peyton, 537 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: is you know land it a little thick here? Like, oh, 538 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: tell me more, let me just sidle up to you, 539 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: especially the Peyton that we first knew who was moody 540 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: and didn't want to make new friends. That she's so 541 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: eager to make a new friend's very eager to make 542 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: friends with beautiful Anna, Just like, Okay, what else do 543 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: you like? Tell me everything. I'm gonna stay with you. 544 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: I had flyers to pass out, but I guess that 545 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: can wait. I can totally wait. Why are you eating alone? 546 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm here? Um, Peyton so neaty? Guys? That's all right. 547 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: We all were. We all were at some point in 548 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: our lives. Everybody everybody needs What do you think? Do 549 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: we have fan questions? I want to do some fan questions? Oh, 550 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: I like this one. Ashley asks us, was there an 551 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: actual menu for Karen's cafe? And what would your to 552 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: go order be or your go to your go to order? 553 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: That's a great question, was there? I mean, I'm sure 554 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: for props there was No, why don't remember when we 555 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: use those like dark blue? At least in later seasons 556 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: they were I think they were like a dark blue 557 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: menu that probably came from the Dixie grill. They were 558 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: not real Dixie grow But oh man, I remember the 559 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: BLT that would have been order. Yeah, I was gonna say, 560 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: what's your order? Yeah? Remember all of the cake stands 561 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: with the glass domes full of pastries on the US Yes? Joy? Okay, 562 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: So I'm so happy you said that because I know 563 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: what my reputation was. No. I remember a prop person 564 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: flipping out because they saw you in the scene pull 565 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: it out to eat it, and they were like, oh no, 566 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: that's not fresh, like it had been sitting there for 567 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: weeks and weeks and weeks. It wasn't like to be 568 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: eaten food. It was prop food, and you, whether it 569 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: was an awful pastry or not, played it off like 570 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: such a pro and didn't make a stink about it. 571 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: You're just like, I'm gonna eat this cardboard croissant right now. 572 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Let that be a lesson to all prop departments. Don't 573 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: put something out if you don't expect your actors to 574 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: use it. Why would you put something out if you 575 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 1: didn't think we're going to use it. I hate. I'm 576 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 1: just kind of My biggest pet peeves is walking into 577 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: a set that's that's not a working set where you 578 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: open up the pantry cabinets and it's empty, like the 579 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: word I mean, it's like, get please work with me here, 580 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: give me something to and they just think actors are 581 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 1: going to show up, and well, aren't you just supposed 582 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: to stand there? Well? What if I'm not feeling like 583 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: standing there? I'm I'm so paranoid, having had food poisoning 584 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: a couple of times. You couldn't pay me to touch 585 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: a food prop on a set unless someone told me 586 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: exactly where and when it came from. I'm like, where 587 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: where can I eat that? I won't even I won't 588 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: even touch it. I'm so like such bad PTSD from 589 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: like being in the hospital on I V drips that 590 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm good, I don't what is that 591 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: good come from? But I agree with you if I 592 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: like if I opened like a desk, like a desk 593 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: drawer supposed to be in my office and like there's 594 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: no pins in there, I'm like, guys, put some pens 595 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: in there there. There have to be like pens and 596 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: post it's in random like you know, rubber bands and 597 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: like the stuff people actually have in their desk. Roy 598 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: the last made for TV movie I was supposed to do. 599 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: I was in a fight about the budget and I 600 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: remember being like, there's no way we can make it 601 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: for this amount of money. They're like, well, we made 602 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: this other movie for that amount of money, and I said, 603 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: there were empty cupboards in that empty cupboards is the 604 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: sign of like low budget, we're just going to mail 605 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: it in. No um. They were not empty cupboards at 606 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: karen Um, but we didn't. We didn't refresh the food 607 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: there on a regular basis. But I ate it anyway 608 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: because you're because you're a professional siss. That's why you're like, 609 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to commit to this Croissan. I started it 610 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna finish it. God damn it. But I 611 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: don't think they have a menu though, what would you need? Okay, 612 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: so balt, I'm oft. I don't even know what like 613 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: Arren's Cafe specializes in. Is it like a brunch? I 614 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: think it's just American you know, bistros sort of. Yeah. 615 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: I probably would have had like grilled cheese and tomato 616 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: soup I bet Karen, you know what, I would get 617 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: a charcou to replate. You guys know me. I will 618 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: always get a sharku to replate. It's true. Just give 619 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: the woman some meats and some cheeses mates, and maybe 620 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: a teeny tiny little tin of pickled vegetables. Sick, I 621 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: need my pickles. Yeah, that would be a good Karen's 622 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: Cafe menu item. I would like that. I would like that. 623 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: This is a good question too. We have another viewer 624 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: question that seems to have been related anonymously, So thank 625 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: you whoever you are. Um asking. Season two has a 626 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: lot of new faces, Felix and Andy, Jewels and more. 627 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: What was the experience like on an offset having so 628 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: many new characters on the show. I loved it. I 629 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: thought this was so fun because we had all flooring 630 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: at each other's faces for so long that you know, 631 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: I mean, twenty two episodes is no joke. We were 632 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: in Wilmington for nine months out of every year, almost 633 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: ten months, yeah, and you know, and like seventeen hours 634 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: a day, right, Yeah, So we had sort of established 635 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: our social circles and our hideouts in our different places 636 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: that we like to go and visits and beaches, and 637 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: we had our routines, so so to have new people 638 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: come in and showing some of them around the town 639 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: or if you're finding places that they discovered that you know, 640 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: maybe we hadn't thought to go visit this museum or 641 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: this spot on the beach or whatever. It was really fun. 642 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: I loved it. Yeah, it would remind you how cool 643 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: a place was because you're you're right, we had done 644 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: it all. And then then it kind of becomes like 645 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: groundhop to day you're like, I don't know, we go 646 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: to these five places to eat and these are the things, 647 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: and totally a minute you get to show it to 648 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: a new person, you're just like, it is really cool, 649 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: isn't it. It is beautiful, isn't it Like it's a 650 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: it's a nice refresh of your own perspective. Yeah, that's 651 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: why we like to travel, you know. Well. And we 652 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: also had established dynamics on our show where we all 653 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: made each other's characters moody. It was like, you know, 654 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: if I talked to Lucas, chances are it's going to 655 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: be a buzz kill, you know, and I'll go cry 656 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: in my room. And so by introducing all these new 657 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: people that we can get excited about on the quad Um, 658 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: we break those cycles because we get to reinvent ourselves. 659 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: And so Lucas actually talks about that. You know, he's like, 660 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be a better guy. I'm trying to 661 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: be a better guy. And she's like, I don't know, 662 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: it seems and it's like it seems fine. It's like 663 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: I don't really know who you were before, but she's like, 664 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: you just seem like a sixteen year old boy. I 665 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: would say one of the things I wished. And we 666 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about this on the last episode. 667 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: A lot of us hung out one set, you know, 668 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: when Maria was around, because we knew her before. Um, 669 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: but gosh, looking back, I'm like, man, how come Brooke 670 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: only got to work with Felix? Like I wanted to 671 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: work with Anna. I loved Danielle. I just thought she 672 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: was so cool and I never got I don't. I mean, 673 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't remember what's coming because we did it a 674 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: hundred years ago, but I don't even know if I 675 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: ever got to do scenes with her. And I just 676 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: thought she was a big prom party, Like there's a 677 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: big party, Oh my god, the prom party. Yeah, you know, 678 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: that's going to be fun. Is that the one where 679 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: I wore that periwinkle dress and you wore the green 680 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: dress and we found you that I think I had 681 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: the yellow dress with the red cossage. It was all 682 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: I love that we remember things either by our hair 683 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: or by our fashion. Was this the one? Like, forget 684 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: the subplot, forget whatever happened, but I remember you looked 685 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: so pretty, you look so nice. Yeah, Danielle is such 686 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: a cool girl. And Anna comes in and is a 687 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: she cleans the slate for Lucas in a way that 688 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, he can't hang out with anybody else in 689 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: town because they all know his baggage. Um, Lucas needs 690 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: someone to come in and see him with fresh eyes. 691 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: And maybe that is why we liked people joining our cast, 692 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: because they came in and saw us with fresh eyes, 693 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, and we got to kind of try on 694 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: being new people. I certainly know at that age, at 695 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: like two years old, I was I was a different 696 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: person once a month, you know, I started hanging out 697 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: with like the metal bands in town, and you know, 698 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: like I wanted to be different than who I had 699 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: been two years before or four years before whatever. So 700 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: when these new people would come in. It was really 701 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to practice the kind of adults 702 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: we wanted to be. Um, Yeah, like him and you 703 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: guys like metal, you like improv? What's your flavor? I'll 704 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: take you to either. I love that. Why do we 705 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: think that Mouth and Brooke never had a shot? Oh, 706 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: it would have been so much better if they ended 707 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: up together like there they started this sort of Cyrano 708 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: dipersierax storyline and then never but it didn't really go 709 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: all the way. And I wanted it too. It's just 710 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, it's weird. I'm torn because on the 711 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: one hand, I love being able to model great platonic friendships, 712 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I think that they're important whether you 713 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: have a friendship where you've never tried to see if 714 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: you might make a good couple, or you go, like, god, 715 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: we really love each other. Should we try to date? No, 716 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: actually that's a bad idea. But we're just friends. Like 717 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: those are experiences that I know people have obviously in 718 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: real life, and I don't know, part of me thought 719 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: that it was so cool that we didn't cross that 720 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: line with Brooke and Mouth because their friendship, you know, 721 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: was so real and deep and and never needed it. 722 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: And then there's also a part of me that's like 723 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: we were robbed. It would have been so sweet because 724 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: they love They really loved each other so much. I know. 725 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: I think that would have been so interesting to see 726 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: them the way they would have complemented each other. And 727 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: I think Mouth would have brought out the fun, playful 728 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: little girl in Brook that always kind of felt like 729 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: she had to, um, I don't know, dress it up, 730 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: grow grow it up. Mm hmmm, Oh yeah. I mean 731 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: she's been actually like an adult, you know, going to 732 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: cocktail bars and you know, using her fake I d 733 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: for years. Mouth would have been like, hey man, you 734 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: want to like play some hacky sack in the park, simplified? 735 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: So sweet. Yeah, I do love their friendship. I do 736 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: love that. There's old question, though, Sophia, that that can 737 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: men and women be platon like good platonic friends without 738 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: sex getting in the way. Somehow it's the old when 739 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: Harry met Sally question. I think, Yeah, you know who 740 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: who has been an extraordinary friend to me, um, and 741 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: we have worked together and I celebrate every chapter of 742 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: his life is Tyler Hilton. Honestly, like Tyler when he 743 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: came on you know we had scenes together right away, um, 744 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't even think about this, but he brought 745 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: it up at a convention. He's like, I never really 746 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: knew how to be on a set, and you came 747 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: into my trailer and made me learn the names of 748 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: all the names on the back of the call sheet 749 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: where all the crews are listed. And you were like, 750 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: you learn these names, you shake people's hands, you asked 751 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: them how their day is. And I was like a 752 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: bossy older sister with him, and that's been our energy. 753 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: We've worked on three movies together. We did Extant together, 754 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: we did One Tree Hill together, Like we've worked on 755 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: so many things together. And his wife, Megan is one 756 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: of my very best friends, you know, and they're BA 757 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: has such clean energy. And by that I mean there's 758 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 1: no flirtation, there's no step outside of the bounds. He's 759 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: like trying to tow the line to see right. Yeah. 760 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: I cherish that about people. And it's funny, you know 761 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: when you say, yeah, I do think it's a great 762 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,479 Speaker 1: age old question and I get it, and look, I 763 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: get it. For a long time. We've asked it of 764 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: men and women, but I think it's really true of anybody. 765 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: Who has chemistry like everybody's into but like in the 766 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: same way that you referenced Tyler, and I think about 767 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: what a safe friend he always was to us and 768 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: still is. Like I think about my best friend Kenny. 769 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: Kenny is like a brother. Kenny shot our video. Kenny 770 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: shot our video for drama. Queen's incredibly talented director and photographer, 771 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: and he truly is one of my best friends on 772 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: the planet, like a person I can call for any question. 773 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: He will stand next to me when I get married, 774 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: like he is my family. And we've never had like 775 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: a weird moment. There have definitely been girls in my 776 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: friend group who been like I think I'm in love 777 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: with Kenny because he's cute, he's gorgeous, and he's talented. 778 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: But it's like I think those friendships are so important. 779 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: And then to be honest, like I can definitely think back, 780 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: like I had a moment in my twenties and another 781 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: moment in my thirties. Maybe you get one a decade 782 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: before you get something. I don't know, but like twice 783 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: I have had great friends who the topic has come 784 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: to be where we're like, are we in love with 785 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: each other? Do we love each other? Are we in 786 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: love with each other? Should we like try to be together? 787 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: And I think as long as you're not an idiot 788 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: and you're not doing that irresponsibly with people's hearts, like 789 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: I get how that happens too, And then truly, in 790 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: both those instances, I was like, Nope, this was a 791 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: bad idea, and there was so much you're super cute, 792 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: You're not my person. It's like, let's go back to 793 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: being friends. Like these are human things people experience, um, 794 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: But I don't know as a person who has been 795 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: across the spectrum of having like decade plus platonic friendships 796 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: to like, you know, a romantic relationship that I plan 797 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: on being in for decades to come. Like, I think 798 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: it's a case my case thing. You know. Yeah, I 799 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: think so too. And also whether you're single or attached 800 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: makes a difference too, because if you're both in relationships 801 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: with other people but you're spending a lot of time 802 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: together like best friends, that gets a little weird too. 803 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: If you're writing songs together like Chris Keller Hayley will 804 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: be very soon girl, it's about to get so messy 805 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: and tree Hill starts. I can't wait either. Well, should 806 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: we spin a wheel. Weird eight minutes. You should spin 807 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: a wheel. Let's do it. Most likely to survive a 808 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,479 Speaker 1: zombie apocalypse. Well, I'm gonna be level with you, guys. 809 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: I played Lucille on The Walking Dead and I did 810 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: not survive. Not me, but my husband did. Um my 811 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 1: son is a zombie. Um characters first. Let's do character 812 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: characters first. For I've I like the junk showed up 813 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: as our are like Doorman high school doorman in this episode? 814 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: Wait was this? The episode re established the junk was 815 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: like two years older in community college, hanging out with 816 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 1: the high school kids. I think we've talked about that yet, 817 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't. It was exciting to have Colin back because 818 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: we hadn't had him in a while. It Skills the 819 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: were the one and not survive anything, So I'm yeah, 820 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: I think Antoine would survive anything. But Skills had that 821 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: whole speech during Dare Night where he's like, I don't 822 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: like snakes, I don't like spiders, I don't like anything 823 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: that's right. You know who's the most resourceful tree Hiller? 824 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: I feel like Dan. Dan's like a cockroach. He won't die. 825 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: I think Dan would be hard to kill. But Keith 826 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: is the only one in tree Hill who knows how 827 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 1: to fix anything. Yes, true, he would be leading them. 828 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: He would be leading the pray there, everybody back their 829 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: backpacks and like leading him through the woods with his 830 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 1: handkerchief on his head and then all dead him outfit. 831 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: It's escape from tree Hill, alright. So Keith wins that 832 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 1: one in Antoine in real life is our He's our endgame. 833 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 1: He's the one that list last all the way through. Yeah, 834 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. I love it you guys. This 835 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: was a fun episode. I love Club Trick. I love 836 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be here for the next eight billion years, 837 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: thank god. And guys, next week is a fun one too, 838 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: But I wonder is it going to be a bitter 839 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: pill with a title like truth Bitter Truth. I actually 840 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,439 Speaker 1: don't remember what's coming, so I'm excited to see season two, 841 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: episode eight. We'll be here next week, and as always, 842 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for tuning in and hanging 843 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: out with us. Back by Hey, thanks for listening. Don't 844 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 1: forget to leave us a review. You can also follow 845 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: us on Instagram at drama Queens o t h or 846 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,959 Speaker 1: email us at drama Queen at I heart radio dot com. 847 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: See you next time. 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