1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, ray Drops, Oh, today's episode Reality 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: of the King. We are going to recap episode five 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: of season nineteen of the Real Housewives of Oorts County. 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: And look, I've been having such a good time with 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: her and she has been such a gem. Why not 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: invite her back? You guys are loving her. I love 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: her the most. Give it up for the beautiful Alexis 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Bellino back again. 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: Like it or not? 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: Hi, I like we like it. 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: The ray Drops are loving you. I hope you've been 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: having as much fun with me as I have it 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: with you. 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: Girl, Carlos, I would never have invited you to my 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: wedding if we weren't having fun all the time. 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, it doesn't matter if we're at a party 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: or we're here, you're fun everywhere. 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, And guess what if I was wearing 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: an ugly outfit, you'd say, I think maybe you should, 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: you know, step it up a little. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: I know that about you that I. 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: Like the Yes, that's totally beat, that's totally beat. 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: Well, look, as we get started, I gotta ask you 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: the million dollar question. 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Okay, do you have a fatty photo somewhere? 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh my, you're going there. 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's the topic of the episode. 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: I know you're right, You're right. 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: I I do fluctuate sometimes. 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: I think five at the most pounds. 38 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: I don't have a photo of me super super heavy. 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 4: I think here's the thing, here's the thing I wanted 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: to make clear. I'm glad you brought this up. Every woman, 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: as stick thin as you could be, can take the 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 4: wrong pose at the wrong angle, or your arms like 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: in the road, and you could look twenty pounds heavier 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: than you really are, or ten pounds or five pounds. 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm sure there's there's some out there. But 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 4: I my weight doesn't flexuate because I just I don't know. 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: I mean five pounds, it does five to ten pounds, 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 4: five never ten. 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: But I don't think that it's. 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: Something where it's like that could have just been a 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: bad angle to be honest. 52 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I feel like we all have one. Look, 53 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: Alexis I got one? You see? 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 2: Okay, that doesn't look bad to me, Carlos, but look 55 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: at the house. Okay, show me your abs now? Oh okay? 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: Oh okay, Well you didn't prep me, see we don't. 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: We don't talk before these You didn't prep me to 58 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 4: go find the worst photo I have of my ads. 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: I would show you after Memorial Day weekend or something 60 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 4: like that and show you the way I look. 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: Okay, you didn't give me that. 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, can you give me a little bit of advice 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 4: when we're going to do this episode from now on? 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: I want to. 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: That isn't okay? So wait is that you? Now? 66 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: Okay, hatty p Tati? Holy okay, you have a six pack? 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: What you've been eating? 69 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, you know I'm planning based, so I eat lots 70 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: of grease kanewah to. 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: So you are hold on, I know we have to 72 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: get into the episode, but you so you are vegan? 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: Wow? And is that medical or is that just you 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: just decided to. 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: No, it's all vanity it's all vanity. I'm vain. 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: So you think meat causes because there's traders that think 78 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 4: it doesn't. But you think meat causes you to be heavier, 79 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: and the greens keep you. 80 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: And the vegetables keep you lean and mean and mean machine. 81 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like greens keep you lean and meat 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: keeps you meat these so I am very much a 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: lean cuisine. 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: Well, I'm known as the rabbit because I eat mostly vegetables. 85 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: I want a salad or some veggies. I'll order the 86 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: asparagus even though it makes your peace snank. I don't care. 87 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 4: I will order the asparagus with my own seasonings and 88 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: maybe some parmesan doesn't matter. So maybe that's why I 89 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: don't gain a ton of weight here and there. I 90 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 4: also don't like sweet anymore in my older age. But yeah, okay, 91 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: we have to dig in. 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: I know, we okay, so we have to say again, 93 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: so listen see we First of all, I thought this 94 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: episode was super fun. I laughed a lot watching the episode, 95 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: so I thought it was a fun. Well, but what 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: wasn't fun is this. You know, listen, there's a storyline 97 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: that they continue this episode of Tamera alleging that you know, 98 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Jen wants to be her and showing a photo of 99 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Jen where she was heavier than she is now. 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: The cast called it. 101 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: The fatty photo, and Jim looked visibly upset by it. 102 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: She's like, who walks around? Like and does that? Did 103 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: you think it was mean? 104 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Wait? 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 4: When you say Jen walks around saying who does that? 106 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: You mean who does the photo? 107 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 108 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: Because because here's the problem. Jen was in the photo 109 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 4: with her. They were taking the photo together. It was 110 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 4: a photo of you saw the photo, It was a 111 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: photo of all of them together. 112 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 113 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Jen was not happy that Tamara decided to send it 114 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: to people and show it to people. 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: Did you think that was sending it me spaed it? 116 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I definitely wouldn't start showing that to people. 117 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: I don't know what that was, but I think at 118 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: the point, I'm not sure, I don't know, okay, but 119 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: I feel like maybe at that point, here's the thing. 120 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: I think Gin's up to here with Tamar, and I 121 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: think Tamar's up here with Jen. I don't know how 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: we're ever going to make this a Kumbaya moment, which 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: we all want, right, we all want, we all want 124 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 4: the reconciliation part of it. I think at that moment 125 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 4: watching that, I was like, Tamar is completely fed up, 126 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: thinks that Jen did really want to turn into her 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: and become her. So she's showing the photo of when 128 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: they met and then that I don't know what I mean, 129 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: how else do you explain it? 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: I don't. 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: I honestly know that Tamar doesn't have a n bone 132 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: in her body like that. But I do think it 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: was not okay to show it. I will be honest, 134 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 4: I don't think it was okay to see it, And I'm 135 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 4: sure would you would you show that photo if you 136 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: were in Tamor's position. 137 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, listen, I think I agree with 138 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: you right in the sense of look showing the photo 139 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: to insinuate someone's weight. If that's what she was doing, 140 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: then that's not okay, right. 141 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: Based on what I've. 142 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Heard from Tamora on the show prior to that, was 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: how she really thinks this woman has transformed herself into 144 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: how into what Tamer feels right Like. I think that's 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: the difference that I'm seeing, and I think you agree 146 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: with that. To Alexis, I think Tamar was saying this 147 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: woman transformed herself into looking like me is the before 148 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: and after of it all. 149 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: That's what I got from. 150 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: It, And here's that's what I got from you. 151 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: And here's what I'm as an outsider I'm saying, is Okay, 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: I can see both sides. 153 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: Care's why I can see. 154 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: Where Tamra would think this girl's trying to be me. 155 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: I can see also Jen wanting to Tamra has. Let's 156 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: be real, Tamra has like seven things. Now we've watched 157 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: the season a little bit more, We've seen like four 158 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: episodes or three episodes for Tamar has all this evidence. 159 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: Of Jen did this and does this, and does this 160 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: and does. 161 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: This, and now it's like, Okay, I can kind of 162 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: see that side. However, there's also the side of if 163 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: someone sees a photo of them or is like I 164 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: just want to be better. I want to be leaner, 165 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: I want to have longer hair, I want to have 166 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: better skin. 167 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: We can't judge for that either. 168 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: It's like, that's why I'm so caught in the like 169 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: this like the middle and a vortext because it's like, 170 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 4: I don't think either of them are really trying to. 171 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: Be I don't I think they both have Okay, let 172 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: me see it. 173 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 4: This way, I think they both have a good position 174 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: for where they stand. I think Tamarra has a good 175 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 4: point and Jen has a good point. And that's the 176 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: rot why this makes this this argument so like monumental, 177 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: like it's a big deal and I don't know where's 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: it going to go from here. 179 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: I mean, that's why it's juicy. Okay. And by the way, yeah, 180 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: big jam Or hadn't shown that photo. 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: I mean that photo is creating the entire storyline once 182 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: again right now, Like I don't know, she kind of carries. 183 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: The story, she moves everything forward. I don't agree with it. 184 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: I'm letting you know right now, I am telling you 185 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't agree with it. 186 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: She ever showed the photo. However, here we are and 187 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: I can see both sides of them. 188 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, No, I agree. 189 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: And it's interesting too because I felt like when Gina 190 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: was talking to Heather about it, Heather was sort of like, look, 191 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: I think she did it for these reasons. And instantly 192 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: they're like, Heather is scared of camera. This is your 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: friend group. I don't know them as well as you do. 194 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: Do you think Heather is scared of Tamera? 195 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: No, No, Heather is not scared of Tamra. 196 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: No, I think I think Heather has her own viewpoints. 197 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 4: I don't think Heather is scared of Tamla. I think 198 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: it's it's this is a sticky situation because Tamara had 199 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: does have six or seven valid points about why Jin 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: is looking like she's uh, you know, seeing a white 201 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: female Jin. 202 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: Also, it's like this is worn pony. 203 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to be a better person, like look better, 204 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 4: be better, feel better kind of thing. 205 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: That's that's the wash, and that's the truth of it. 206 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 4: Like, I don't think at all that Heather is scared 207 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 4: of Camela. I don't think anyone I was just tell you, 208 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 4: I will tell you. I think Heather is afraid of 209 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: having enemies. I think Heather has such a soft soul 210 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 4: that she doesn't want to have anyone mad at her 211 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: or like I feel like she plays Switzerland a lot, 212 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: like doesn't have a lot of a huge backbone in 213 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: certain areas. But Heather is not scared of people. So 214 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: what That's that's how I feel. And I love Heather, 215 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: She's one of my good friends. I love her so 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: but that's how I mean. I think we can see 217 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: that through the show and through the season. 218 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Aubrey, I don't think Heather is afraid 219 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: of anybody. I think Heather has based on what I've 220 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: seen from Heather on the years she's been on She's 221 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: a tough woman and she's. 222 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: Never shied the way from stating her opinion. I'll be 223 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: a popular or not. 224 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: I feel like Heather stands in her beliefs, in her convictions. 225 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: I don't think for a second she's got a tamera. 226 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: I think when. 227 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: It comes to Heather, she owns who she is and 228 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: she's not trying to ever follow the majority boat. I 229 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: just don't see her as the type of woman. 230 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: I agree. I one hundred percent agree. I think she 231 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: does stand her ground, but I. 232 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: Do feel like to keep I feel like she's kind 233 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: of the peace. She tries to be a little bit 234 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: of the peacemaker. 235 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: There are times I feel like she could have one 236 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 4: side more than the other where she I feel like she. 237 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: Kind of goes a little in the middle. But that's 238 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,359 Speaker 2: just me and I have filmed with her, so yeah. 239 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I sat by her at the reunion in 240 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: last season eighteen, and she did not stick up for me. 241 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: When everyone's yelling at me and we have already talked 242 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: about this, we have smashed this, we have done this. 243 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: It's done. 244 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: But you know, she was right there where she could 245 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: have simply said, guys, let her like this talk and 246 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: so so I just think she sometimes she wants to 247 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: be the peacemaker. 248 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: I didn't think about that because I remember you and 249 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: I spoke about that too, and I felt the same 250 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: way at last year's reunion when it came to I 251 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: felt like it was a pile of shit just dumped 252 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: on you, and I'm like, why is it anyone defending election? 253 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: So it wasn't a pile of shit dumped on me. 254 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: It was Emily yelling and not letting me speak, and 255 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: so it was it was just her loud mouth and 256 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: then Heather was stuck in the middle. So it was 257 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: But that's okay. Look, I don't want to talk about 258 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: the past. We got to talk about this episode. So 259 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: it was juicy and good and I think next episode, Okay, 260 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: the trailer for next episode. 261 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, hey, gosh, I can't wait to see it. 262 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: But no, it's good. 263 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's good. 264 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. 265 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. So what I love 266 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: about Gina is listen, I'm proud of Gina, her sobriety. 267 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy that she is killing it in real estate. 268 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: So she's hosting this event and she surprises the girls 269 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: with the New Orleans trip, and then you visibly see 270 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Tamra not excited to go, and that's when we learned 271 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: that this is the start of what has been you know, 272 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: out there in social media world about how Tamra left 273 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: the cast trip early and she announced I believe on. 274 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: Social media that she quit. 275 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: So what we what we saw in this episode, Alexis, 276 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: was Tamra talking about her lack of enthusiasm going to 277 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: New Orleans because it's the same location that her best 278 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: friend and fellow podcast host Teddy Mellencamp felled down marble 279 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: stairs as she's going through cancer and getting humors removed. 280 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: And I'm just like. 281 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's fascinating to watch all of this 282 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: unfolding real time because you I saw camera personality change 283 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: instantly when Gina announced New Orleans. And I know a 284 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, oh, Tom's making excuses, but 285 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: I feel like that was to me, that moment was 286 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: so pivotal that she really is dealing with some heavy 287 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: shit at this current time of filming. 288 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: It. You can see it. And this is the thing. 289 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: Tamra doesn't cry on camera about personal things, like not 290 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: deep of a personal thing because she doesn't like to 291 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: go there. 292 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: I can tell it. I can see it. Even in 293 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: the seasons that we've watched before, she'll cry about things 294 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: that are in the moment that she's ticked off about 295 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: or this, and that she doesn't go deep. 296 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: That's what she's in therapy for. I feel like right 297 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: now it's trying to dig deep, right, like get to 298 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: the deeper roots. But she doesn't typically cry about something 299 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: that's so close and personal. And I think she was 300 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: still at that moment back at that time, it was 301 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: all true new. I don't even think camera could even 302 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: function like knowing, okay, what's happening right now, Like I'm 303 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: barely being able to film. 304 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: I don't know my best friend. I don't know if 305 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: she's you know, what's happening, what's her what's her diagnosis? 306 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: But so it was. 307 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: That's the thing with the camera is a raw and 308 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: it can capture the real moment. It can also tell 309 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: when you're faking it. Fake crying is very apparent. Real 310 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: crying and real emotion is very apparent. 311 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: So I feel like that. 312 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: Was one of the moments that you can look and go, 313 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: holy hat, she's hurting like bad right now. 314 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: No, it's just to like hear what Teddy is going through, 315 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: what happened. 316 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: To her, how the fall really you know, did a 317 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: did her confidence that she was rebuilding after going through this. 318 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: It was just it was very sad to to to 319 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: just hear that and then to have to visualize how 320 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: that moment must have felt for for Tamera being triggered 321 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: by the thoughts of New Orleans. But look, it's the 322 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: beauty of the show when you get to follow stuff 323 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: in real time. Speaking of beauty, following Ran in the 324 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: gym full time, it's my idea of a great night. 325 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: Alexis, I'm just. 326 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you mean following Ryan Jen's husband? Yeah, 327 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: I'm confused. So you want to just you want to 328 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: just go back to more gem scenes and follow him. 329 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: That's it. 330 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: Give me that spin off, Bravo, What do you think? 331 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: What are you guys talking about? Give me that spinoff? 332 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: You can add Eddie there at John Like, that's my 333 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: type of seed. Give me Ryan working out please every 334 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: day of the week. 335 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: Well, like you mentioned, I mean. 336 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 4: You mentioned at the beginning of this episode or just 337 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: when we first start talking about this episode, you mentioned 338 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: that you liked that it was lighter and there were 339 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 4: some fun There was a lot more like some of 340 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: the home Wife, some of the gym wipe, some of 341 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 4: the other life and the whole episode, which I enjoyed 342 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: because the quirkiness and the fun stuff that you see 343 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: behind a couple or two friends. That's draw and not 344 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: just you know, more of the let's get into the 345 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 4: heart of it all. 346 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: It's really actually cool and I thought it was fun. 347 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 4: I think it's cool to see how people interact and 348 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 4: couples interact and you can relate and you're. 349 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: Like, oh we do that or oh that was odd, 350 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: you know, like either way, it's just so fun. 351 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I really really enjoyed it. And like 352 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: you said, getting deeper in this episode versus like the 353 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: girl and Girl drama to hear Jan talk about what 354 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: she's going through in her situation with her ex husband, 355 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: how she was awarded child support. 356 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: She mentioned how she was also awarded never paid. 357 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: She told Jeff Lewis is actually two hundred thousand dollars 358 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: that is ow to her. 359 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: She has not seen a dime. 360 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: That was wild to me, Like, how is he able 361 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: to get away with that if it was the judgment 362 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: in court that he has to pay. 363 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: I don't I honestly don't know. It's actually bizarre. 364 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 4: And also props like and by the way, there should 365 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: be something that is done about that because of the 366 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: judgment of the court. 367 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: She's got most of the kids most of the time. 368 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: She needs some help. 369 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: But props to Ryan for actually taking these kids under 370 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: his wing and just saying okay, look, but how embarrassing 371 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: for the dad that didn't isn't paying Like now the 372 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 4: stepdad or the boyfriend their fanced but like, okay, now 373 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: the boyfriend's. 374 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: Paying for all the kids when the dad should be. 375 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 4: But I mean, why don't we know if he has 376 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: like some you know issue, Well, he's not on the 377 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: cat so we won't know, but he might have financial problems. 378 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. 379 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 4: But all I know is it's embarrassing the other fatherers 380 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: taking care of your children when you're well capable of it. 381 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: In the judgments, you're spots too. 382 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: No listen, Ryan is great because he's not married to 383 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: Jin just yet. He had his girlfriend with his fiance 384 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: and her children move into his home. I listen, I 385 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: understand why Ryan felt the need of Alexis to confront 386 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: Jim's ex husband to really ask about, like where's the money? 387 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: Because I think it Ry's defense is a man to 388 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: man conversation and the fact that his children, you know, 389 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: Jen's and his. 390 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: Child or residing in Ryan's house. They're residing Arian's house. 391 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: It's like, it's it's crazy, It's crazy. I don't I 392 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: thought it was a great thing that he confront of him. 393 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 3: What did you think? 394 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: I'm I'm kind of mixed about that, honestly, coming from 395 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: a broken family, I think it's I think it's hard 396 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: because you just don't know what's going to be the 397 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 4: right thing to do, right Carlos, because he is supporting 398 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 4: the kids. Ryan is supporting the kids most of the time. 399 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 4: They are living in his home most of the time. 400 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 4: I don't even know what the what the agreement is. 401 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: So it's hard, and I don't know that a. 402 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 4: Man to man conversation is the right way to handle it, 403 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: because then that, you know, does set Gin back ten steps, 404 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 4: like she said, and she's just trying to keep the peace. 405 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: But maybe it's the one thing that'll work. 406 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: Maybe it's the one thing that'll get will isn't it 407 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: will to actually step up a little, you know, I 408 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: don't know. 409 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: It's hard because I'm from a broken pain. 410 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 4: So it's like I can see I can see the 411 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: that Ryan was doing it and all, you know, wanted to. 412 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 2: Do it to help the situation. And then I can 413 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: see where Jenna is like, that's just hurt the situation. 414 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: I can see both sides. 415 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: Okay, No, that's fair. 416 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: I can't be black and white. 417 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: No, that's fair. 418 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: That's fair because at the end of the day, if 419 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: something goes awry, like Jen said, the ex would allegedly 420 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: use that to punish her, which is not okay. 421 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: Right, And that's the sticky part to it. 422 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: No, that makes sense that yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was. 423 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: It was tough to hear. The other thing, though, alexis 424 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: as we're diving to the deep personal stories. The other 425 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: thing that was tough to hear is what Gina and 426 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: Travis are going through as it relates to traps ex, who. 427 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: Is allegedly. 428 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: Not allowing Travis to see his son because Travis is 429 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: dealing with Gina and how he's not even the son 430 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: isn't even going to school like this. 431 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: This is mind boggling to me that. 432 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: This happens, the fact that a parent would do that. 433 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: It's scary because the court system can't keep up with 434 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 4: all of it. There's so many, Like I do feel 435 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 4: a court tries to make it fair and equal for everyone, 436 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 4: and there's just so many divorced families, and. 437 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: It's like, how how do they keep up? I don't know. 438 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: That's why you have to work really hard to keep 439 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: you know, some kind of an agreement so it doesn't 440 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: go to court. 441 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: And and and the fact is, where does Travis go? 442 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: How does he get any help? You can't. It's like 443 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: you just don't get the sun. I mean, you can 444 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: call the cops, you know, you couldn't. 445 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: There are certain things you can do, but then the 446 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 4: cops do come and they'll be like, sorry, I can't 447 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: help you right now, Like you know, this is a 448 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: court situation. It's just it's so bizarre. And I don't 449 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 4: want to say the court system is broken, but in 450 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: the family court of law, I do feel like it 451 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: might be a little broken. I feel so bad for 452 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 4: so many families, and there's so many emotions and so, 453 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: you know, especially when children can't speak their mind or 454 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: really have you know, I think it's like twelve or 455 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: fourteen so they can actually say, you know, before the 456 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: court will actually listen to them. 457 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's hard. 458 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that made me sad to hear that. 459 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: And then the fact that the ex wife is calling 460 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: Gina's son. 461 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: Fuck and involving the children. Okay, okay, you got to 462 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: keep gives out of it. It's between the adults here, 463 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 4: you know. 464 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: I I my my mind boggled with that. 465 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: I agree. 466 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: The cast then goes to New Orleans and listen. I 467 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: love it when the cast goes on a trip. I 468 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: feel like you're going to get a double dose of 469 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: fun and drama. 470 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: So listen. 471 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: I enjoyed them getting ready for it. Shannon showed what 472 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: she was working with between her legs. 473 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: You know, I was shocked. I was shocked. 474 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 2: That shocked me. 475 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: I thought she was like so conservative. 476 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna I have lost her name for 477 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 4: my vocabulary, thank you, thankfully. 478 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: Like now it's like we're done. 479 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 3: I will okay. 480 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: I think people are starting to seed the truth. 481 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: Okay, Alexis. There's certain things you can. 482 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: Give any advice or any I'm sorry, you can give 483 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 4: any input. 484 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: You want to on that. I am going to muzzle Okay. 485 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: I'll left it. 486 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: I wish I wish the dress was muzzled like that 487 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: is something that I just I just do not. I 488 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: don't want to see that. I just and and and 489 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: she was gleefully showing it. I'm like, this ain't the 490 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: love hotel. 491 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: I don't know who you're trying to secure by showing your. 492 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: I will say that she's sitting there going no, No, 493 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: nobody wants to date. And it's like, okay, well it's 494 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: clear why why they don't, Like. 495 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: No one wants to hear and see those kind of 496 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 4: things like they wouldn't if you're gonna act class even 497 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: be classy, like don't just at it like. 498 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I'm gonna say. I told you I'm 499 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: not gonna die jokes. No, I no listen, no listen 500 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: mine right now? You ready. 501 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: To me? Sister? 502 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: You would you would click, honey, you know what you 503 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: would do. You would click that button? So bad done? Okay, 504 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: podcasts over the world. 505 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 3: For the night in recording that you. 506 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: Listen honey, you're about to get married, so clearly you 507 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: know how to use what you got, so let's just 508 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: keep it there. 509 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: But well, it's funny because I. 510 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: Mean John and I have not because yeah we're yeah, okay, 511 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: we learned, you know, let that from last event. 512 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: We'll move on, do you guys? Okay, what. 513 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: What are the topics the Alexis were if aie was 514 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: ever made a sex video? 515 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: You need a drink for this. Drink water. It's a 516 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: bottle of water, mylet. 517 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 4: People can't see and I'm like, I neither drink and 518 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, having a martini over here. 519 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So alex Is, what what are your thoughts all 520 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: like couples making sex videos? 521 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 4: Well, I think if you're in a loving relationship, and 522 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: you are, you know, here's the fear that I would 523 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 4: always have, because now it's my third marriage, would be 524 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 4: what if that gets out? What if then it's like, okay, 525 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: you something goes awry. It's like okay, now what But 526 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 4: they's just out there, you know. I think it's great. 527 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 4: It can be a lot of fun for a couple. 528 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 4: I just feel like it's a little scary, you know, 529 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: because I'm getting married to John right now, So. 530 00:28:50,280 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think have you done it? Carlos haven't. Yeah, 531 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: you're pleading to that. 532 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: There is nothing recorded. 533 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: Listen you know how like when you're listen with cell 534 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: phone with cell phones, Verse came. 535 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: Out and you were like trying to. 536 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: Cell phones came. 537 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 4: Out, You're trying to what videos like you were oh 538 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: and then it dropped or what what? 539 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: I don't know where you're going. 540 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: No, you're just like you're having fun, you're in love, 541 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: you're having fun, and you test your shit out. But 542 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: then but then I'm like you Alexis, I was like, 543 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: wait a second. I immediately was like this is getting 544 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: deleted the moment, like the. 545 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: Action is done. I just I'm not. I'm not. I 546 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: don't need anything saved. 547 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 4: Well yeah, or if it gets out, that's the problem 548 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 4: you have to That's what I worry about. 549 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: What these people, you know, that's the scary thing. 550 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: It's okay, No, people are crazy and. 551 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: Exes are not as graceful these days. 552 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: What does that mean. 553 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: If they're mad at you build. 554 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 2: Engines? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that you're it's 555 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: at yours. It's right there at your hand. You can 556 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: do it. You know what I mean. 557 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: Before it was you had to have the big old device, 558 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: the big cam quorder that you're like, okay, let me 559 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 4: try to how do you do that? 560 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: Like a phone? 561 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, it's more discreet, like you know it 562 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: was before we had the rep the Flintstone age, you know, 563 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 4: like okay, here. 564 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly. So I'm glad. 565 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Look, I'm glad that time my life is over now. 566 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: One thing that I thought was a funny revelation have 567 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: a Debro revealed that Terry Debro where its lift shoes, obsessed, obsessed. 568 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 4: Okay, And I think it's phenomenal too because I think 569 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: most people know it. You can kind of tell when 570 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 4: he was, you know, out in about or whatever. But 571 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: I think it's awesome that it's self revealing. That I'm 572 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: not duprecating because it's on him, not her, but you know, 573 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: it's just being so lulnerable and honest. It's like, look, okay, 574 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: who cares he wants to gain an entry or two? 575 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: Okay, what's the problem with that? No body deal. He 576 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: still looks great, they're happily married. It does not matter. 577 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: It's like okay, but yeah, awesome. And she's like I 578 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: love the comment where she's like they probably cost more 579 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: than a house or something. I forget when it was 580 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: like something like that his shoes. We won't be buying 581 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: another pair of those anything. 582 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, no, not any time soon. 583 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: But it made me think, like, I mean, because I'm 584 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: like five nine a half, and because John is how 585 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: John is like what six to two? 586 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? You tall? Yeah? 587 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 588 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: I and Tina peck and still hot as f So 589 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: there you go. But anyway, yeah, he doesn't need shoes. 590 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: He didn't need a lift in anything. Okay, But so 591 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: you're I do want some, I know what, but you 592 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: don't think five nine and a half you feel like 593 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 4: you want to be a little taller. I'll text Terry 594 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: and ask him where he gets them. Maybe it's a 595 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: Christmas present. We'll get it for you for Christmas, Okay, 596 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: Heather and I'll go in on it together, all right. 597 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think it would feel good to feel 598 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: five to ten? 599 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: Ah? For sure? All for sure? For sure? Because this 600 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: is things everyone likes a tall man. 601 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 4: I think that I don't think hype matters. I think 602 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: that it's about the heart and about everything else. I mean, 603 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 4: it's weird because I usually am with taller men because 604 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: I'm five seven, though, Carlos, It's like, what what short 605 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 4: guys even gonna think I'm hot? 606 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: You know, Like it's like I'm like too tall for everyone. 607 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: It's shorter, you know, so they're like, oh, Jero too tall, 608 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: you know. So no, it's yeah, I can see it. Okay, 609 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: let's get you some list, honey. 610 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: Yes, almost, almost some lifts, but no. After I watched 611 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: this episode, I thought of you, Alexis, because I know 612 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: in our conversations you always talked about like how you 613 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: know you like it when the shows are fun, you 614 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: like it when the show's get personal story. I thought 615 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: this was the first episode the season where I enjoyed 616 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: them having fun and to be laughing at like broken vaginas, 617 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: like the joke of that with Jen having public surgery. 618 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: Like I thought all of that to me was a 619 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: solid episode of like getting back to like them enjoying 620 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: each other having fun. 621 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: Did you feel the same way watching it too? I did? 622 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 2: I was. 623 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 4: I loved I mean just because some times it's fun 624 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: to kind of chuckle, you know, even if it's not 625 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 4: something you can relate to, It's like it just fun 626 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 4: to chuckle and see how other people live their lives. 627 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: That's what I think is good about all of the 628 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: reality TV is just like, Okay, you can watch how 629 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: someone lives their life, because when you're in your own life, 630 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: it is so a lot. 631 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a lot. 632 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: And then you can go, oh, well they're kind of 633 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 4: dorky in that way, or oh they argue about that, 634 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: it just it just puts you. Or you can go, oh, 635 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 4: maybe that's a better tool I can use for the 636 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 4: next argument, or oh that was funny. 637 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: I want to make that joke with my husband. I 638 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 639 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 4: I love the I love the day to day I do, 640 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 4: and I know they can't do too much of it 641 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 4: because they've loved the audience. 642 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: I know that. 643 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 4: You know that as a producer for twenty years in 644 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 4: this industry. However, it is fun to have a little 645 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: bit of an in it. The Carlos quite tell you something. 646 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 4: I think after watching that next preview for next week, 647 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: I think that there's a set up. 648 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: I think they're getting ready. 649 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 4: We're like, Okay, let's give them a little bit of 650 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,479 Speaker 4: fun because they don't get hot head down next week. 651 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah that was all about I. 652 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: Agree with you. They're like motherfuckers enjoy this while you can't. 653 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: This is the last fun episode you're going to get 654 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: because the ship is about to hit the fan next week. 655 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Gretchen, Tamera, Katie Shannon, like, everybody's getting into 656 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: it next week. 657 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 3: So look, one thing we know about this cast trips. 658 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: It breaks out the drama. 659 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: And when they said twenty four hours later, it looks 660 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: like they are not going to disappoint in that department. 661 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: So Alexis you have to come back next week to 662 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: talk about that. It's going to be insane. 663 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 4: And I think that's the rest of the seasons unity 664 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 4: in same Like you see the trailer, you know, it 665 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 4: all goes. 666 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: It's like it's like that's why they're giving us this 667 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: little bit of It's like here's a piece of cotton candy. 668 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: Here take a cotton candy stick, and now we're going 669 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: into the mud. You're going into the mud for the 670 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: next three episodes, the guy or four I don't know 671 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: how many, Oh. 672 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: Gosh, I don't know how many, but at least three 673 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: or four we have to I don't even know what 674 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: episode we're on. 675 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 2: What is this one? 676 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: It's episode five? So so the episode five were talking about, 677 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: we have. 678 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 2: At least five. 679 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it's going to be crazy and it's 680 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: we also heard in the in the coming attractions, that's 681 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: when Tamer quits the show and we get to see 682 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: what led her to do that, and listen. I can't 683 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: wait to see it. I can't wait to recap that 684 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: with you, Alexis. Thank you so much, my sweet dear, 685 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: for taking time out of your busy, busy, busy busy 686 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: evening for us. It's a late one for us, but 687 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me. Enjoy your soon 688 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: to be hobby and the family, and I'll catch you 689 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: on the next one, my love. 690 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: Okay, last, We'll see you later, guys. Bye. 691 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 692 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership. 693 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 3: With the Lack Effect Network. 694 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at 695 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore