WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Going Through Changes 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.519 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:11.840 The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'm going through changes his 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.400 edition as we discuss the bengals many changes for the 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:20.800 upcoming season with two guests. First, NFL analyst and former 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:25.160 offensive lineman Brian Baldinger, I'll get his thoughts on Joe Burrow, 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.240 the Bengals O line, and much more. Then I'll be 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.120 joined by one of the eight unrestricted free agents that 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.320 the Bengals signed in the off season, linebacker Josh Bines. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.320 The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Prime Sport, the 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.960 official fan, travel and hospitality partner of the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.040 And here's a quick reminder that you can have the 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:50.360 latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:55.160 or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.760 or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since having a 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:04.440 calculator on your phone. I remember the first calculator I 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.160 ever saw. My stepfather bought it for his business and 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.080 it was the size and weight of a brick and 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:15.600 it was expensive. Now, anytime I need to do quick math, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.600 like figuring out a tip at a restaurant or my 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.800 son's on base percentage and not hold baseball. All I 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.679 have to do is use the calculator on my phone, 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.160 A useful invention right in the palm of your hand. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.360 I guess that's why they call it handy. Now let's 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.960 get to football. There are many great things to watch 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.000 on NFL Game Pass, currently available for free on NFL 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.960 dot com until July thirty first, and one of the 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:48.280 best shows is called Film Session. On it, co hosts 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.240 Brian Baldinger and Kurt Warner sit down with one of 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.559 the NFL's top players for an in depth film study 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.640 session that gives viewers a look at what it takes 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.360 to make a player one of the best at his position. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.320 Baldinger is a prominent analyst for NFL Network and joined 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.600 me recently to discuss the Bengals. Brian, let's start with 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.320 the player who has energized this fan base. What do 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.720 you think the Bengals are getting in Joe Burrow. They're 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.240 getting a natural Robert Redford in the natural. I mean, 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.880 I've never seen anybody play college football the way Joe 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.320 Burrow did a year ago against the country's best team's 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.120 week in week out. He was sensational. And the big 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.280 difference was when Joe Brady came from New Orleans last year, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.639 is he recognized how quickly he goes through his progressions 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.040 and it was a strength. And from that he was 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.680 basically able to get five wide receivers or five receivers 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.720 out in the route and let him decide where to 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.080 go with the ball and limited what teams could do 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.880 in the pass rush in the blitz game, and he 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.520 was just deadly accurate and his decision making was spot on. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.560 They're getting one of the best college prospects to ever 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.399 come out, and there's a lot to be excited about there. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.440 We're talking to NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger. How does 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.920 his potential compare to what's been solid play over the 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.240 last nine years from Andy Dalton. I don't know exactly. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.960 I mean Andy Dalton, you know, won the division, he 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.040 went to the playoffs five years in a row. We 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.720 know what his playoff record was. But they were a 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.160 very successful team for much of Andy Dalton's tenure. He 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.639 was a great leader, he knew where to go with 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.200 the ball. They had pretty good drafts back then, and 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:30.600 there's a lot of stability, uh something Cincinnati hasn't had recently, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.200 so I don't want to compare him to anybody yet. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.680 I mean, Andy Dalton was a real pro and it 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.520 has a chance to be continue to be a real 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.520 prom He just knew how to conduct himself, how to 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.480 handle himself, how to run a football team. And that's 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.760 what Joe, you know, that's that's his initial job. I mean, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.440 obviously he's got to go out and perform and play 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.040 at a high level. We got to see how quickly 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.320 he can do that right now. But I don't I 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.200 don't really want to compare him to Anny Dalton. Look, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.160 Joe Burrow doesn't have the strongest arm. I did a 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.240 football camp with Sam Darnold this year and they're training 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.880 together in California, and he was around him and he 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.520 said that the arm isn't it's not Patrick Mahome's arm, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.080 but it is an accurate arm. He knows where to 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.000 put the ball, and so accuracy is more important than 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.080 arms strength, and that's that's going to be the key. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.520 Can you convert third downs? Put the ball where you 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.360 got to be able to put it on third down 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.080 to convert and stay on the field. When you could 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.320 do that, you're gonna win games. We're talking to former 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.680 NFL offensive leman Brian Baldinger. What do you think the 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.560 lack of OTAs and mini camps are going to mean 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.800 too Joe into the other rookie quarterbacks this year. Well, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.960 it's it's a huge roadblock for everybody like that. New staffs, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.640 young players, teams that are rebuilding, not to be able 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.360 to get on the field and spend time together, get 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.680 to know one another, get to know you know as 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.760 a person, and then the timing on each other side 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.760 of the ball. It's it's going to hamstring teams. And 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.800 so I've said for a number of years because of 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.080 how little teams played their starters in preseason that September 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.400 was the new August. Well it may. We may not 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.359 see the timing that is necessary to really play at 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.960 the high level until October. With a lot of teams 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.760 this year, teams are going to struggle. I believe now 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.760 you might have to look deep to find it, and 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.520 to find the timing errors might not show up on 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.200 the TV screen right away, but I think it's going 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.680 to be there because football is a summation of a 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.320 lot of moving parts, and if they're not all moving together, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.440 in the right way. Things usually don't click real well. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.440 We're talking to Brian Baldinger. You can follow them on 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:43.080 Twitter at Baldy NFL. After Joe Burrow Brian. The Bengals 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.200 took T Higgins in the second round, linebacker Logan Wilson 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.480 in the third. Three of their seven picks or linebackers, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.480 The only offensive lineman they selected was a Team of 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.280 Energy out of Kansas in the sixth round. What did 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.000 you think of their draft overall? Well, mate, T Higgins, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.800 can you line up along with Tyler Boyd and AJ 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.000 Green and John Ross? And you know, we know that 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.039 you know, Ross has been injured a lot, We know 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.760 that AJ Green didn't play last year. I think they've 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.520 got a young player that they can develop, that can 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.839 learn from a lot of those players I just mentioned. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.800 And you know, he certainly had success at Clemson. And 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.359 I mean it was a deep wide receiver draft. You 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.279 had to take one of them, and they did. I 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.359 think that Logan Wilson is a good prospect. They certainly 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.800 need linebackers in every phase right now, especially with what 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.400 they lost over the last two seasons. So they're gonna 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.200 get an opportunity to play right away. A Kaman Denege 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.080 played at Kansas. Probably play his best football this year, 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.840 you know, with the new coaching staff. But he certainly 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.440 is a guy that you know, played on a team 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.239 that struggled and he had to be really good because 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.560 they were always behind and throwing the football, and so 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.680 he got a lot of work at pass protection there 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:59.480 at Kansas. Brian, you do mister fixed articles during the 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.520 season on NFL dot Com where you address how teams 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.400 can fix their weaknesses. So here's my question for mister 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.680 fix it. How can the Bengals improve that offensive line? Well, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.960 I mean it starts with getting Jonah Williams back. He 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.480 didn't play last year. He was a first round pick, 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:16.600 you know, I mean people thought he was a first 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.320 round pick and he's got to go play like it 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.920 now at a key position. They haven't really fixed that position, 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.600 you know, for you know, since they lost a really 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:30.920 good player three years ago. So it starts there. Look, 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.680 I mean, can Billy Price, can he play like the 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.440 number one pick he got beat out last year? Can 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.960 he get back to what he was at Ohio State? 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.320 Can he be a starting NFL center? We got to 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.360 find that out. I think, you know, I would try 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.240 to get as much competition at Bobby Hart right tackle 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:52.680 position as you can, you know, and try to try 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.600 to get the best five guys out there. That's where 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.320 it starts. It always starts up front. You're gonna get, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.280 you know, the first pick in the draft. You want 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.440 to try to build the best wall possible, you know, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.720 try to get the best five guys up front, and 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.920 the best five guys playing together as one up front. 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.320 That's where it starts. We're talking to NFL Network analyst 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.000 Brian Baldinger. You were an offensive lineman for more than 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:18.240 a decade in the NFL. Speaking about Jonah Williams after 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.720 missing his rookie year with a shoulder injury, are you 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.960 concerned at all about his ability to come back and 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.520 take over at left apple right away? Well, I mean, 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.040 I'm you know, I'm out a doctor obviously, and i 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.120 haven't seen, you know, how he rehabbed. But I've seen 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.240 plenty of guys come back from injuries that age and 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.120 just play fine. I mean, I would just go by 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.120 his youth, the fact that he has not had many 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.480 injuries that he should be ready to go. I mean, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.400 most players make the biggest jump between the first and 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.920 second year. The fact that he didn't play, he probably 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.960 kind of editors as a rookie. But provided he's healthy, 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.640 I mean, I expected to go out there and be 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:56.920 what he was at Alabama, you know, a dominant player, 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:01.079 especially in the run game, Brian. The Bengals even't historically 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.760 been a big spender and free agency, but this year 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.800 they signed eight unrestricted free agents. They spent more than 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.680 one hundred and thirty million bucks. What did that say 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.120 to you? You got to be able to line up 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.640 with twenty two starters and so you know, I think 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.080 that you know, getting a DJ Reader is a guy 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.599 that I don't think Gino Atkins has had next to. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.720 I mean, Dj Reader is a dominant, dominant defensive tackle 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.040 and he asked him a good pass rush too, just 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.520 ask Quinton Nelson. I mean, I think he gives Quintin 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.120 Nelson more trouble than anybody else out there. I mean, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.200 I think that will make Geno Atkins better. I mean, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.000 that's that's one player you know that they signed and 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.760 I think can make an immediate difference. Trey Waynes has 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.560 been a starter in this league. It's been a first 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.839 round pick. They eat corners right now, I'm still waiting 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.920 for William Jackson third to play at a high, high level. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.880 I think he's got the ability to do it. I 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.480 thought Marvin Lewis thought that he could be as good 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.600 as anybody that had come into the league. So, I mean, 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:01.040 I just mentioned two guys, but look, you've got to 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.359 line up with twenty two starters. You've got to be competitive, 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.880 and you've got to create competition. And I think Zach 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.840 Taylor is creating a competitive atmosphere just within its own 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.640 team right now, and that's where it kind of starts. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.760 Let's do a Baldies breakdown of the AFC North. What 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.959 do you think of the Ravens, Steelers and Brown's going 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.800 into twenty twenty. Well, I mean, I think the Ravens 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.960 are in a different level right now. They certainly have 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.840 built done a great job of building around Lamar Jackson 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.720 has only been in the one hundred year history of 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:36.360 the NFL, there's only been two unanimous MVP players, Tom 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.240 Brady in two ten of Lamar Jackson last year. We 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.080 haven't see anybody run the ball like that and really 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.120 commanded offense the way Lamar did last year. And you 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.000 know he's working with Markus Brown the entire off season 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.720 down the South Floor. They both from that neighborhood. And 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.680 you look, Hollywood Brown didn't have an off season, didn't 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.080 have a training camp with a foot injury. If he 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.880 gets timing down with Hollywood Brown, the way they run 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:03.080 the ball, I mean, they might be off the charts, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.400 just really good. They restocked the defense. They're the class 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.680 of the SEC. North Pittsburgh. We got to see what 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.920 the health of Ben Roethlisberger is. We know when he's 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.640 healthy in the lineup, Pittsburgh's a different offense. Defensively, they 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.959 led the league in takeaways in his sacks. Those are 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:22.240 two pretty good, you know, statistical categories to you know, 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.720 to lead in. And I think Keimnis Stefanski is going 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.520 to be a good fit with what he wants to 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:31.439 do offensively, and I think it's going to benefit Baker Mayfield. 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.560 I think the division got better and tougher and more 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:39.320 competitive this offseason. Yeah, unfortunately, I agree, Brian. This is 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.719 the third year of the Film Session series that you 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.360 do with Kurt Warner. For those who have not seen it, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.320 described film Session. We sit in a film room with 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.959 star players and coaches around the NFL and we let 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:56.280 them analyze their play within their scheme to us, and 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.280 you know, I've done forty five of them now, Dan 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.400 and I keep learning from everybody. This week, we sit 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.319 down with Amari Cooper, the number one receiver of the 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.080 Dallas Cowboys, and he takes us through route running and 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.640 what he does to get open and how he fits 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.160 into the scheme and what they do, and it's eye 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:16.160 opening of what he sees and the way that he 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.080 plays the game. Ste Find Gilmore was in the film 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.199 room with me last year, the Defensive Player of the Year, 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.640 And when you sit down and listen to Stefind Gilmore, 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.800 you realize why he was a Defensive Player of the Year. 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:31.640 I mean, just smart, intuitive, and they take their film 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.840 studies very seriously and they take everything they learn and 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.240 they apply it to the game, film out to the games, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.760 and it makes their job a lot easier on Sundays 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.160 when they do the work during a week. The first 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.840 five episodes will air in primetime on NFL Network, and 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.080 you can see all the episodes online on NFL Game Pass, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.400 NFL dot com slash game Pass, and the NFL is 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.240 offering complimentary access to that through July thirty first. Brian 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.960 have one more question. From your playing days. You played 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.320 in Indianapolis with a quarterback who has drafted number one overall, 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.880 who had a long career but not a particularly great 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:12.880 career in Jeff George. Based on that experience, what advice 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.720 would you give Joe Burrow, knowing the kind of pressure 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.960 he's going to face is the number one overall pick. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:24.199 To take your job extremely serious. It's the most important 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:29.480 thing there is. The preparation week in week out cannot 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.560 be undermined just how important it is. You're the leader 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.320 of the whole team. Everybody's looking at you to help 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.440 turn things around. I would just tell Joe to be 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.880 a complete pro from day one. There are no off 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.400 days during the season. You can enjoy your off season 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:51.560 in February, go enjoy the Pro Bowl, Go make the 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.359 Pro Bowl, enjoy Las Vegas since it's now in Las Vegas. 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.960 But take their job extremely serious. Be the leader of 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.840 the team and lead by example. That's what I would 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.600 tell Joe Burrow. That's what I think Jeff George could 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.600 have been better at as talented as he was, he 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.640 could have been a better leader, and he could have 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.160 prepared harder. It's good advice. Sounds like the type of 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.040 person that Joe Burrow is coming into the NFL, and 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.760 ultimately we'll see if he makes some of those Pro 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.360 Bowls going forward. Brian, I appreciate you time looking forward 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.520 to watching film Session on Saturday night and throughout the season, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.440 and I hope you have a great twenty twenty. The 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.720 pleasures all mine Laporta joining again in a joy Film 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.360 Sessions A great show appreciated This Saturday night at eight 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.320 NFL Network will They're a film Session show with Packers 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.920 wide receiver Davante Adams and you can see all previous 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:47.119 editions on NFL Game Pass. If you don't already subscribe, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.920 you can sign up for free access through July thirty 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.360 first at NFL dot com. Before we get to our 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.320 next conversation, here's a quick reminder that you can take 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.320 your Bengals prior to the next level in twenty twenty 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.520 with an afficial Shold Bengals fan package from Prime Sport. 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.080 The Bengals have a linebacker on their roster this year 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.200 who earned a seventy six point six grade last year 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.120 from the film watching gurus at Pro Football Focus. So 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.840 just how good is seventy six point six. Well, it 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.920 was better than the grades earned by Pro Bowlers Bobby 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.320 Wagner and Jalen Smith, as well as Devin Bush and 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:29.120 Joe Schobert, among others. That linebacker is Josh Bindes, who 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:30.880 signed a one year deal with the Bengals as a 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.000 free agent after spending his first nine years in the 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:38.920 league with Baltimore, Detroit and Arizona. Josh. I had linebackers 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.720 coach Al Golden on my podcast a few weeks ago, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.960 and here's what he had to say about you. Experienced, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:50.520 proven winner leader, very bright, a vocal leader of the 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.520 line Struman. So I think from that standpoint, he brings 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.760 a lot to the room. He's been tagnal in the 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:03.080 standard that he setting and what he demands of the 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.240 younger guys. So here's my question for you, how are 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.000 you doing that when you haven't even met these guys 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.920 face to face. It's just being vocal, just in the 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.800 meetings and just like uh from the beginning, Uh, Like 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.240 I asked a million and one questions and I'm just 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.360 like that, And if I don't know anything, I want 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.240 to ask as many questions as possible so I can 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.080 get a clear understanding what it is. And what asked 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.880 of us and um, and just trying to you know, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.240 set the standard for the our room and just you know, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.920 trying to bring everybody along. We've got some young guys 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.320 in the room, so you know that they get involved 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.120 quickly and and you know, got to be ready to 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.680 play and be ready to go. So and uh, it's 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.000 just it's the way the lead goes. It's you know, 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:46.960 and I'm just in a position enough to you know, 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.600 have so much experience and uh and you know, just 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.560 one the past, all that knowledge as much as possible 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.800 down to the younger guys. Do you relish the opportunity 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.920 to be the veteran leader of this group? Oh yeah, 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.760 Oh yeah, for sure. I'm I just feel like it's 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.639 I guess it's one of the natural things about me 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.760 are just you know, very uh you know, forward and 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.120 just you know, uh, just dictator at the same time 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:13.800 and just knowing how to lead and just put the 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.640 people in the right direction. And at the same time, 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.880 I'm always open to listening and you never know where 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.960 great ideas come from. I don't turn out rookies from 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:22.960 bad ideas or anything like that, because everybody has a 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.520 great idea and you never turn your nose up at anything. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.120 And I think that's just you know, it's just called 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.080 growth and evolving, knowing you can get lessons from everybody, 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.000 no matter where they are in life. How challenging is 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.680 it to learn a new defense without OTAs in mini camp, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.440 I think it's it's childhood. Depending on the kind of 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:43.879 guy you are, I think a lot of guys have 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.800 different you know traits. Some guys maybe like learn better 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.640 with you physically going in and some guys can pick 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.840 it up easily by just you know, talking about it 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.280 and seeing in here and there or you know, and 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.879 it all depends on your learning style. And I think, uh, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.879 just so happens to uh, you know, the zoom meetings 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.080 and anything like that. It's just you know, pivotal from 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.000 a just a mental standpoint and just trying to remember 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.959 and play everything together without having to physically do it. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:11.760 And that thing is gonna make you that much of 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.480 a better player, because when physically do it, that's gonna 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:18.200 all tie together and make it all whole. And soon 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.280 enough we'll get to that point of doing that. We're 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.840 chatting with Bengals linebacker Josh Bynes. The season that you 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.840 had last year is remarkable to me. You weren't in 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.320 an NFL training camp. One Sunday in late September, You're 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.720 playing golf. The next Sunday, You're starting at linebacker for 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.679 the Ravens against the Pittsburgh Steelers. And at the end 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:39.920 of the year, if you had enough snaps to qualify. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.480 Pro Football Focus graded you as the eleventh best linebacker 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:50.560 in the NFL. How was that possible? Honestly, just waiting 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.960 on an opportunity, just taking one game at a time 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.040 and just and being ready. One name is called I 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:01.120 think this just I could credit to my trainer, Lillian 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.879 after Malick. She's just done a great job working with 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.479 me for the last six years or so, and I've 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.280 just been amazing. Just make sure I'm staying and ready 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.960 and in shape and just prepared to, you know, whenever 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.680 I got the opportunity to play, and just so having 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.920 obviously I got a call and I was had to 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.680 start and play with fifty somethings snapped my first game back, 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.760 and uh, and I just think it's just you know, 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.399 just some just very resilient and just looking forward to 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.080 just always proving people wrong and and proving myself that 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.400 I can still play this game. I mentioned that Pro 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.879 Football Focus great from last year two years ago with Arizona, 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.240 they had you as the fourteenth best linebacker in the NFL. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.280 Are you playing your best football ever? And if so, why, 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.320 I don't know. I just think everything you just started 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.879 to click and make sense more. And and I'm just 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.640 taking care of my body so much, a lot, whole 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.280 lot better than I obviously, you know, a younger guy, 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:58.320 and just and just trying to make football makes sense, 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.359 and just you know, trying how to do anything you 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.280 know that's not asked to me, and just trying to 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.080 do the best of my ability and and and that's 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.960 just really isn't pretty much not doing too much. I 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.800 just occurred it to a lot of studying and just 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.560 you know, and just be being in the right position 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.359 and uh and just going and just playing football. I 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.520 love this game to the end of the the end of time, 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.040 and I'm just trying to give it my hole as 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.080 while as long as I can play it, because I 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.280 love it and as long as I feel good. My 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.680 body feels great and amazing, so I want to continue 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.640 playing it at a high level as much as possible. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.040 We're talking to linebacker Josh Bines, you spent your first 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.520 three years in Baltimore playing with guys like Ray Lewis 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.000 and Ed Reid. What did you learn from each of 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:41.640 those guys? Oh Man, just read is just about far. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.480 It's it's just super amazing just learning the game and 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.640 just learn learning little little details as far as alignments 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.119 and what kinds are ad and everything like that. I 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.280 just try to remember those things when I'm studying film 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.280 to look to give me clues, to give me a 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:00.679 little knowledge, okay, what may happen, and you know what 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.840