1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: today's best minds, and recently obtained email show that Donald 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Trump was always planning. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: To say the election was stolen. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: I am shocked. I'm totally shocked. We have such a 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: great show for you today. White House communications director the 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: One the Only Ben Lebolt talks to us about the 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: state of the Union and what lies ahead for the president. 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: Then we're going to play you a. 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Clip from our Soldown City Winery show featuring the One 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: the Only Rick Wilson and surprise guest George Conway. But 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: first we have The Washington Post's own Dana Milbank. 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Too Fast Politics. 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: Dana Milbank, Molly, it's a thrill as always to be 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: with you a thrill. 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: So I love you and love having you on the podcast. 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: I was excited to have you. Oh, I'm very like 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: not DC because I like hug people and tell them 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: that I like them. 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: That's like not I feel like that's not the culture. 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: It's my culture in DC. You can hang with me anytime. 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: But I wanted to talk to you about this PC 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: for The Washington Post, where it's so crazy. I mean, 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it is, like it's not that crazy, 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: but it is also that crazy my month of living 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: the republicanly. So you I want you to. I'm not 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: going to steal your. 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: Thunder here because it's so hilarious. So explain to us 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: what you did. 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: Well, you know that it is possible and throughout the country. 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: Really the laws vary by state to vote in whatever 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: primary you want to it just as long as you 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: register is that party a certain number of days before 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: the election. And in DC it's very easy. You just 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: got to become a Republican three weeks before the primary. 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: So it is a friend's suggestion that is exactly what 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: I did. I've always been independent and registered independent, you know, 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: because I'm scrupulously neutral in all things political, and also 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: I just don't like messing around, you know, voting for 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: local primaries I don't really know about. 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. You live in the district. 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so my vote is a total throwaway anyway, and 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: it doesn't really count. But here was a chance for 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: my vote to count because in twenty sixteen, Marco Rubio 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: and John Kasik actually beat Trump, who came in a 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: distant third. So I was like, you know, I could 48 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: be part of Trump's only defeat in the entire primary season. 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: It turns out indeed, he did lose in the district 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: of Columbia. He also lost in Vermont, so we don't 51 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: have the sole distinction. But you know, there were only 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: I think twelve hundred and fifty votes for Nikki Haley. 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 3: That's how big the Republican Party is in all of DC. 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: So she won with sixty three percent, which means all 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: of two thousand people voted in this primary. But I 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: was one of them. So I feel like I had 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: a measurable effect on dealing this devastating defeat to Donald Trump. 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: What I love about this story is that Trump has 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: done a lot of I wanted to say, tweets, but 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: we know they are truths, a lot of truths. The 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: iron A too rich on how these radical leftist democrats 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: are voting in the primary and denying him of his coronation. 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: So you are one of those radical leftist democrats. 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 3: Well, except I was more of a radical leftist and 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: Hendon technically, but yeah, in fact, I hadn't yet become 66 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: a Republican when he was railing about them doing it 67 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: to him in New Hampshire, and there, in fact, you 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: had to do it months in advance of the primaries. 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: I was like, all right, this really gets under his skin. 70 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: So it was all the better reason to do it. 71 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: And you know, he's been all about how you vote 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: for Nikki Haley, you're banished permanently from MAGA, and of 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: course it's thrilled a lot of Haley supporters. Idea absolutely 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: thrilled me, you know, and I've always sort of, you know, 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: styled myself sort of you know, rhino, lowercase rhino, just 76 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: you know, never quite a real Republican, and that's that's 77 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: what I was officially. 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: So one of the things that you did was you 79 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: just embraced all of the stupid cultural war stuff that 80 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Republicans have that have been a sort of a hallmark 81 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: of trumpsm you ate a Chick fil A, You tell 82 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: us the other things like that that you did. 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Right, And that's why I called it my Month of 84 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 3: living republicanly because you know, it just seemed really cheap 85 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: to really just be a rhino. So I thought I'd 86 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: really do the stereotypical Republican thing. So I ate at 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: Chick fil a. I shopped at hobby Lobby. I got 88 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: to back the blue placard that I can have up 89 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: on my table. I didn't know if I could sleep 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: easy at night, so I bought my pillow from Mike Lindell. 91 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: It's one with He's screened on to the cover of 92 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: the pillow holding a flag and the Constitution. I have 93 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: that for sleeping. My how is the pillow. It's very 94 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: lumpy and flimsy. I compare it to Donald Trump's legal arguments. 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: I used the Sean Hannity special and it only cost 96 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: me fifteen bucks. And anyway, my cat likes it, like 97 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 3: you know, is sleeping on it right now, no doubt. 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: So I you know, I got my Mike Lindell pillow 99 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: trying to help him out of debt. I shopped at 100 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: Hobby Lobby. I went to the Museum of the Bible, 101 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: you know where Mike Johnson's clare. 102 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 2: I've been there. 103 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: I was a little disappointed because you know, he went 105 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: there and said, how God you know, made him into 106 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: the new Moses at the red seat moment. But it 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: was like totally non partisan. It was like sort of 108 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 3: a Disney version of the Bible. So I was I 109 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: was kind of disappointed because I wanted to have more 110 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: of a maga justification. 111 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: It doesn't have a real magas my eldest son, yeah 112 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: me there. 113 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bobby Lobby was more maga than that. But it 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: was tiring, and so after that I went to a 115 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: sports bar and watched NASCAR. There was a pile up 116 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the race, there was a photo finish, 117 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: and there were all these you know, hair dye for 118 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: men and copd ads. So I really felt right at 119 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: home with that. And then I drove three hours out 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: into Virginia to go to a gun show and that 121 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: was really I mean that those were my mag of 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: people right there. 123 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Did they have disgusting t shirts that say like racist 124 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: and over sexualized things about our vice president. 125 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was the Confederate flags and the three percenters 126 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: and Trader Joe. I bought one that said I support 127 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, I drink beer, I eat meat, I have 128 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: guns to protect my family and if you don't like it, 129 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: move or something to that effect. It was very very pithy. 130 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: The lack of pithiness with the trumpy accessories are because 131 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of writers writing that kind 132 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: of thing. 133 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: This is true. They had some great targets that I 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: could shoot at with my guns. There was one with 135 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 3: a cowboy with a red dot on his chest and 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: read fart and then he had actual sort of you know, 137 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: life looking genitals in blue that you could shoot at. Yeah, 138 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: you know. And there's the survival food, the freeze dried food, 139 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: and first aid stuff. They were the patriots there, the 140 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: Massa Newton patriots having their election integrity meeting geese. So 141 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: you know, these were I felt that these were my 142 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: people as well. So I think that really rounded out 143 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: the experience. And it's not that I would want to 144 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: necessarily be part of that cultural I have to say. 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: I switched, you know, after I voted, I switched my 146 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: party back to Independent. And then I was passing a 147 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: Chick fil A and I was thinking, I can still 148 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: eat there. It's good. 149 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: I thought, Chick fil A stopped giving money to anti 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: LGBT causes, Well. 151 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: Then I'm not going to eat there anymore. 152 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Did you have the fried oreos at Chick fil A? 153 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 5: No? 154 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: I didn't even know about this. You see, you are 155 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: a better Republican than I am. 156 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: Molly, Ah, I'm sure that's not true. 157 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: I should have checked with you first on this. No, 158 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: I just got the fried chicken sandwich and the milkshake. 159 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: But was it good. 160 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: It was really good, and I think I'm I'm just 161 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: going to stick with it. I you know, whatever, whatever 162 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: their politics are, it's good. 163 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: So let's talk about what else is happening in the 164 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Beltway besides your weird and hilarious story. We are sort 165 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: of at the end of primary season. 166 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: Would you say that's fair? 167 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: I would say it's over, yes. 168 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we have eight months of limping along 169 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: until this election. 170 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: That is a very dreary thought. And I feel it 171 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: personally as well. I've sort of been following. You know, 172 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: I was going to cover the primary, but there's no 173 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: primary to cover, so I've basically been slumming it covering 174 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: the House Republicans, who it's sort of cheap fun, but 175 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: they never really disappoint, you know, they're always going to 176 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: do something wacky. But you know, after this week, I 177 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: was like, all right, I'm going to finally have to 178 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 3: graduate and start covering this interminable presidential campaign. And I'm 179 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: really not looking forward to it. I can already since 180 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 3: the procrastination. 181 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: Let's have two seconds on cheap fun. We got to 182 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: go back because. 183 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: Oh please, Yes, I think this is the stupidest group 184 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: of Republicans that the House has ever seen. 185 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: Well, and that's a high bar, but I think, I mean, objectively, 186 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: we have to say they cleared it this week. What 187 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: did we do? We spent the last year getting rid 188 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: of the speaker, having all these showdowns and everything. 189 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 6: And then. 190 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: And they're basically passing the same, you know, the same 191 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: spending bill that Kevin McCarthy agreed to a year ago. 192 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: So we just wasted the last year having all of 193 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: these fights that amounted to nothing. 194 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: Basically, this entire thing is because Matt Gates was mad 195 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: at McCarthy for allowing an ethics investigation into. 196 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: Him, yes, which is still proceeding. 197 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: I mean, so like, think about how stupid that is. 198 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to sort of overstate the stupidity. But 199 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: you know, it's not like they've done nothing. They've they've 200 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: impeached majorcas without any impeachable offenses. They've they're very close 201 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: to impeaching Biden, even though it turns out the whole 202 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: case is you know, imploded, because they're relying on a 203 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: whole bunch of felons the main witness is in jail 204 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: and the ones in jail. The other one is on 205 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: the lamb. 206 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: For his own protection, likely because they worry about the 207 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: Russians killing him. 208 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 3: And they want to have a hunter Biden hearing with 209 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: various of his accusers. But they're all going to have 210 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: to come in orange jumpsuits. Now. 211 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 212 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: The maiorci Ist impeachment, though, is my favorite of the 213 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: two failed impeachments, because now they've realized they can't bring 214 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: it to the Senate. 215 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: Right after all that and saying it's really an emergency 216 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: and our national security depends on getting this guy out 217 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: of office, They're like, all right, we're just going to 218 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 3: sit on this for a while. Yes, that's particularly delightful. 219 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they're hoping that they can draw 220 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: a maximum attention to it if they pull back for 221 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 3: a while. But it does sort of undermine the whole 222 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: profess need to get rid of the man in the 223 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 3: first place. 224 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: My favorite stupid moment of the stupidest Congress is actually 225 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: the moment that they decide that they're going to get 226 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: rid of Santos, and then over the weekend leadership realizes 227 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: they actually really need his vote. Because they spend the 228 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: weekend doing the math that two is less than three, 229 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: and they somehow on Monday morning they figure that out 230 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: and they start to try to get people to vote 231 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: against expelling Santo's but. 232 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: It's too late, right, the ship had sailed, and they 233 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: narrowly do and they are correct that they can't govern 234 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: without Santos, but I mean they couldn't really govern with him, 235 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: so it's not a huge difference. But yeah, I mean, 236 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: like when the majorcas impeachment went down the first time, 237 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: it was by one vote and Santos tweeting do you 238 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: miss me now? And Gate says, yes, I miss him already. 239 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: In fairness, they couldn't really govern before. And you've seen it, 240 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: I think now six before this congress they had a 241 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: single rule. You know how the procedural what you started 242 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: to make had not failed in twenty years, and now 243 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: they've done it six times over the last year. It 244 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: would take one hundred and twenty years to have gotten 245 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: to that under normal proceedings, but they were able to 246 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: do it all. 247 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you got to respect the incompetence. So 248 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, this is just the stuff. You know, if 249 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: you watch c SPAN, it's not like the mainstream media 250 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: is picking up the really crazy stuff, there is still 251 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: more crazy stuff. 252 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: Well, I am trying to fill that vacuum. I've been 253 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: trying to list every little bit of crazy and I 254 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: don't know if you know, I have a whole book 255 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: coming out. I think it's looking like September. It's going 256 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: to be called The Fools on the Hill. It's just 257 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: a compendium of crazy. And you know, I'm just going 258 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: to keep hitting you over the head with all the 259 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: craziness lest you forget any one delicious nugget of it. 260 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm struck by was actually, 261 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, so it looks like they're going to be 262 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: able to pass this the first tranche. 263 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: Of spending bilts. Right, these are the bills that we 264 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: were just talking about. 265 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: But on the floor, Chip Roy is furious and gives 266 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: this insane speech yesterday where it was like, we didn't 267 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: do nearly enough. We should be cutting the FBI buy more. 268 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what is happening. 269 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: Well, so one third of the House Republicans oppose this, 270 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: so it just sort of shows you and that's roughly 271 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: the crazy quotient in the House. And I mean, but 272 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: that's more than enough to you know, screw up the 273 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: entire operations of the place, and they have. But you know, 274 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: it does show you that if Mike Johnson or if 275 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: McCarthy before I'm actually wanted to try to govern, you 276 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: could do it with Democratic votes. They would stand up 277 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: to the crazy. So the option has always been there. 278 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: It's just like they needed to exhaust every other option 279 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: before they could do the most sensible thing. So, yeah, 280 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: the spending wheel. They got rid of all the or 281 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: virtually all of the crazy riders about abortion, the trans 282 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: at gay rights, at DEI, and you know, all the 283 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: other cultural war issues. So they just tossed all of those. 284 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 3: They stuck to the spending agreement that McCarthy had Biden 285 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: reached a year ago alone. Behold, it sails through with 286 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: i think all Democrats but two or something like that 287 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: and two thirds of the Republic. So it's not so hard, 288 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 3: is it. 289 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: So let's talk for a minute about even though this 290 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: is the rematch presidential race that nobody wanted, where the 291 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: stakes are impossibly high, yet again, there are some really 292 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: strange congressional races that are percolating. Magan really continues to 293 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: pick some of the most incredibly bad candidates I've ever 294 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: seen in my life. 295 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it'd be tough to exceed what they 296 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: did the last time around. 297 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: They may have done it, though. 298 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: They might have. I mean you got to you know, 299 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: if you look at North Carolina the gubernatorial nominee, I mean, 300 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: that's something they did get rid of that. I think 301 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: it's Sandy Smith was the name. She's the one who's 302 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: sort of been accused by her ex husband of trying 303 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: to run car and throwing an alarm clock at him. 304 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: She lost in the general election last time. This time 305 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: they were able to bump her out the way in 306 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: the in the primary. But yeah, I mean, I think 307 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: for everyone that, you know, what's left of the party 308 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: established is able to knock down a couple of the 309 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: crazies still get through. They've just sort of lost control 310 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: of the process. So it's what Tom Massey said a 311 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: few years ago that you know, he was confused as 312 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: to what the ideology was of the Republican primary voters, 313 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: like are they you know, libertarian? What are they? And 314 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: he finally realized they just want the craziest son of 315 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: a bitch in the race. 316 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey was happy to oblige. I mean this is 317 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: a guy who went to ID and now he says. 318 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: Crazy, right, and now he walks around with his pocket 319 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: protector debt counter. So truth is he's one of the 320 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: more sane ones in that in the house right now. 321 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: One of the things that I was struck by was 322 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Nikki Haley this week dropped out of the race. 323 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: She goes, this is like my favorite thing. 324 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Like she's so quaint, She's like, what our biggest problem 325 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: is our national Dad. I was like, I haven't heard 326 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: this since what is this two thousand. 327 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: And th right right? Which is like no child left 328 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: behind the flight right? No, it's it was a great throwback. 329 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: It's not wrong. It's just there's been a universal decision 330 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: to just ignore this, not worry about entitlements. Just right 331 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: off into the sunset. 332 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: Do you think that being fiscally sane will come back? 333 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: There are so many things we wonder about. Will that, 334 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: you know, we'll just general sanity and the belief in 335 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: a strong America leading overseas. Will that come back? Will 336 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: democracy come back? Well? I would think that you would 337 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: reach a debt crisis at some point and then that 338 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: would force a reckoning. But it's you know, it never 339 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: actually seems to happen. It has not. Injured are standing 340 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: in the world. So you know all the people who 341 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: are saying, you know, social Security is going bankrupt, that 342 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: it cares going bankrupt and we won't be able to 343 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 3: issue you dead as the United States, it just hasn't happened. 344 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: Maybe it just hasn't happened yet, but I've sort of 345 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: given up on any sort of prudence. 346 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Dana Milbank, Molly. 347 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure as always. 348 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Ben Lebolt is the White House Communications Director. Welcome to 349 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: Fast Politics. Wait, what is your fancy title, Ben. 350 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: Lebalt, white House Communications Director. 351 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: That seems very fancy. 352 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: I can search for a new title if it's too much. 353 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 5: Now it's good. 354 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: We like a fancy title here at Fast Politics. Since 355 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: you are in the admin, I now first. 356 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: Want to talk to you about things that happened to 357 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: me on television last night at one o'clock in the morning. 358 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: You may not be used to having questions phrase quite 359 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: like this, but this is where we are. So last 360 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: night on television at one o'clock in the morning, I'm 361 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: with Tim Miller. 362 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: He's quite wonderful. I love him. 363 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: But we were talking about it and he was saying 364 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: that out of the New Yorker magazine profile. 365 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: He said, Well, he said, I'm worried that the White 366 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: House doesn't think the polls are right and isn't reactive 367 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: enough and might be complacent. Just for a minute, since 368 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: you work there, Yeah, tell us why that is not 369 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: something that necessarily people have to worry about. 370 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, well, I think entering this year, you know, 371 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 4: everybody should know what's at stake. We're quite clear that 372 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 4: American democracy is on the line, that rights and freedoms 373 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: for Americans across the country, or on the line if 374 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 4: you're a woman who wants to make their own healthcare decisions, 375 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: if you're a parent who believes they should decide what 376 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: books your kids have access to rather than an ideological governor, 377 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: if you believe that Jane Ray sixth was an insurrection, 378 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: not a celebration of patriots, I think pretty clear driven 379 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: by the president, are quite clear on what the stakes 380 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: are of the president's success on behalf of the American people. 381 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: In some ways, this year reminds me a little bit 382 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 4: of twenty twelve, when I served as the press secretary 383 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 4: for the Obama by re election campaign at that time 384 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 4: and We went into the year knowing that the country 385 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: was divided and that the race was essentially tied, and 386 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: I think we find ourselves in that same position today. 387 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 4: And so you know, we're now entering the portion of 388 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: the year where you know, we're moving closer towards the 389 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 4: end of the primaries and the two candidates entering the 390 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 4: general election. I think the State of the Union speech 391 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: is sort of the president's first appeal to the country 392 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: as a whole, the highest viewership we'll expect the president 393 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: to see all year, and really to start to reach 394 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 4: people with his me She then follow that with travel 395 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: to key states across the country and make sure that 396 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: people hear the contrast version of that message and the choice. 397 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: And so everybody here from the President down is up 398 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: night and day, recognizing the stakes, doing everything we can 399 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: to communicate both about the President's record and what's at 400 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: stake this year. 401 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about this speech. 402 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: This is the State of the Union is an incredible 403 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about some of this stuff that I 404 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: feel like the Biden administration has accomplished that they haven't 405 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: gotten credit for in the very narrow and likely wrong polling. 406 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: So to talk about sort of the accomplishments that you 407 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: highlighted in this speech. 408 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: Well, if you, Molly, I mean, I think the State 409 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 4: of the Union offered a few things that offered a 410 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: chance for the President to look back for the largest 411 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 4: audience that he'll face in a long time, and talk 412 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: through the fact that we overcame the pandemic that was 413 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: killing so many Americans, that we've collectively built the strongest 414 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 4: economy in the world. We've brought inflation down more than 415 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: any other country, that wages are significantly outpacing inflation, that 416 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: the racial wealth gap is the lowest it's been in 417 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: twenty years. That more jobs have been created fifteen million 418 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: under this administration than any presidential administration in history. 419 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 6: So those are. 420 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: Things that people may have heard bits and pieces of before, 421 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 4: but they didn't collectively hear it until Thursdaying weren't a 422 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: lot different situation this year, coming out of the supply chain, 423 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: inflation coming down than we were last, So that was 424 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 4: an important part of the case to be made. The 425 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: President also looked forward about what must be done now 426 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: you know, some of these accomplishments could be significantly expanded 427 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 4: to impact many more Americans. So you know, with insulin 428 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 4: capped at fifteen dollars per seniors, while the President's proposed 429 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 4: we should be able to do that for all Americans 430 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: who require in camping prescription drug costs a two thousand 431 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: dollars out of pocket a year for seniors. Let's offer 432 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: that to all Americans. Housing costs. This is something that 433 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: has been a persistent problem facing Americans up and down 434 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: the economic scale. The President has proposed some tax breaks 435 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 4: to provide mortgage reliefs and building more housing to keep 436 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: the price of rent down. He recommitted to things like 437 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: making sure that IVF is available to every single American 438 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: and that the rollback of grow that we stopped that 439 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: that we were sore row and you know, all these 440 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: implications for women and families across the country. So that's 441 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 4: a chance to look forward and then also to just 442 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: talk about what's on the line and what the contrast 443 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: is against you know, MAGA Republicans and the President is 444 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: a defender of democracy. This is a very significant moment 445 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: in US history that will come to it for this November. 446 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 4: He stood up for democracy at home and abroad. He's 447 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 4: standing up for individual rights and freedoms. Republicans used to 448 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 4: be say that they were for freedoms, but they've passed 449 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: hundreds of bills and state legislatures to take freedoms away 450 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 4: and certainly are responsible for the fall of Roe versus 451 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: Wade at the Supreme Court. And look, their economic approach 452 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 4: hasn't worked. You know, the president's predecessor showered billionaires and 453 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: corporations with two trillion dollars in tax cuts. It exploded 454 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 4: the deficit, and the middle class had to pay for it, 455 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: and they didn't see any benefits out of it. And 456 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 4: so you know, the present that laid out the stakes 457 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: and laid out the contrast in a really compel a way. 458 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 5: Right. 459 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: So, one of the many arguments that I have with 460 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: people in the pundon industrial complex, by the way, I 461 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: think they're going to kick me out, is that Joe 462 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: Biden is not a president for you. He is a 463 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: president for more working class Americans in a way that 464 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: is I think really sort of like a thing that 465 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party sort of lost sight of. And one 466 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: of the things that makes me think about that is 467 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: like Biden has had this quest against fees. It's small, 468 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: it's very un sexy, but I actually think it's something 469 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: voters really do care about can you talk about that 470 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: and other things like it. 471 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: I think the President's tests is always is this something 472 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 4: that your family would talk about around the Thanksgiving table? 473 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: And people like us, Molly, obviously, we've been hyper political 474 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: for a big portion of our lives. But you know 475 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: that the average America and the average family isn't like that. 476 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 4: And you know, when I get together with my extended 477 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: family over Thanksgiving, there's still a lot of people who say, 478 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 4: you know, I'm just not interested in politics. It doesn't 479 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: have that big of an impact on my life, which 480 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: I've argued to various extents over the years, but I 481 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: got to tell you it's stuck. Like jug fees where 482 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 4: it took a trip, they were loaded up with all 483 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: these resort fees that didn't even stayed a resort, you know, 484 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 4: doubled the cost threat or you know, they want to 485 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: go see a concert or a game, and you know 486 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 4: the ticket company is doubling the fee for that and 487 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: not disclosing it. I mean, the presence Lens has always 488 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: been the family million household he grew up with and 489 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: around in Scranton, Pennsylvania and Claymont, Delaware. You know, working 490 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: families who struggle to make ends and meet who aren't 491 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: one hundred percent sure that they'll have job security or 492 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: financial security and have to strap things together every couple 493 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 4: of weeks. And he has kept those Americans, those hardworking Americans, 494 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 4: at the heart of his presidency. He's made sure that 495 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: the earners on the bottom of the wave scale have 496 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: actually seen the biggest gains under this administration as wages 497 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: have gone up. He's made sure that the racial wealth 498 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 4: gap has closed. His address areas like student debt relief, 499 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 4: which had really burdened families and prevented them from you know, 500 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 4: putting down at the down payment on a house or 501 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: having another kid. He's focused on things like the child 502 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 4: tax care credit and the economy to make sure that 503 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 4: this is just the lenses. Does it impact the daily 504 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: life of hardworking Americans, and if so, then he's got 505 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: time to focus on. 506 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: So I think that's important point about the junk fees 507 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: and the sort of smaller pieces of legislation that may 508 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: not be mass deportation squads but will actually help people's lives. 509 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: So talk to us about some of the top lines 510 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: from the speech, and also just some like IVF abortion. 511 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I would love you to talk about like sort of 512 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: the health freedom aspect. 513 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: The President believes that this is a significant moment in 514 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: history that we're living through where democracy is on the 515 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: line abroad, and and he draws a connection between what's 516 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: happening abroad in Ukraine and in Europe where Putin's on 517 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 4: the march. He's waving a war of aggression against Ukraine. 518 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: He won't stop there. We know that when dictators and 519 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: authoritarians are on the march that they'll go into other countries. 520 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: He's signified that he would like to do so, it 521 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 4: least into the Baltics, and that if we don't stop 522 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: them there, it'll continue and our native alliance, the strongest 523 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 4: alliance in history, will be threatened. And by the way, 524 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: if he enters into a European country that's part of 525 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: the NATO alliance, we're at war. So we've got to 526 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: stop Putin in Ukraine, and we've got to stop you know, 527 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: bowing down to Putin and his government and imply that 528 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: it's just okay for authoritarians like Putin to seize territory 529 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: that's not theirs. Well, we're also facing a really significant 530 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: moment at home and a significant risk to our democracy 531 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: became very clear on January sixth, where thousands of insurrectionists 532 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: stormed the Capitol and tried to overturn the results of 533 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: a free and fair election, and Maga Republicans have embraced 534 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: and the president's predecessor embraced those people not as insurrectionists, 535 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: not as criminals, but as patriots. Well, that's a very 536 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: dangerous moment for our country that has not been fully alleviated, 537 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: and the present believes we need to confront that directly. 538 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: So that's one. 539 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 4: Secondly, there's been a rollback of rights and freedoms. The 540 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: rights and freedoms of Americans across the country are under assault. 541 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: If you're a gay person that believes their identity should 542 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 4: be recognized, if you're a woman who wants to make 543 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 4: their own healthcare decisions, if you're worried about what's happening 544 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 4: in schools where entire programs and chapters of history are 545 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 4: just being torn out of books, Well, this is a 546 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: moment where we need to fight back for our freedoms 547 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: and to defend our individual liberties. And the present beliefs 548 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: that this is a year where we'll make big decisions 549 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: on that front. And at the art of things, as 550 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: we talked about earlier, is the present believes we need 551 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: to continue to build the economy from the bottom up, 552 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: in middle out instead of the top down. We know 553 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: what the results have been, record job creation, the strongest 554 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 4: economy in the world, record contracts for workers, Unions are expanding, 555 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: wages are rising. The policies that the President has put 556 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: into place, which by the way, some people said were 557 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: too aggressive when he did so, has led those things. 558 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: He believes we need to can continue our progress. And 559 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 4: the MAGA Republicans all they want to do is the 560 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: same trickle down economic expansion of tax breaks for billionaires 561 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: and corporations. Well, guess what the President thinks tax fairness 562 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: should mean. It should mean charging billionaires and corporations their 563 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: fair share, that we should actually have a minimum tax 564 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: on billionaires, that we should raise the minimum tax on corporations, 565 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 4: that we can actually do things like fund a child 566 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: tax scar rented in this country for working America. 567 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: So let me ask you two questions. 568 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: So, one of the things that you guys are going 569 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: to get into trouble with in this election, and you're 570 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: already seeing it in some of the exit poll line 571 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: is progressives who you know in some ways they don't 572 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: understand just how much the Supreme Court sucks. 573 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: And so I want to talk to you about like 574 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: student debt. 575 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: One of the things I think has been really amazing 576 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: is that the buy An administration has been quietly working 577 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: around the clock to try to cancel student debt, but 578 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: not so easy. You guys have canceled certain tranches. Talk 579 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: to me about where you are and what's happening with that, 580 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: And also do you think people can understand that the 581 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: Supreme Court really is just going around trying to undermine 582 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: legislation at every point. 583 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: Well, the good news is you can see from a 584 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: public pulling that Americans more Americans know about the work 585 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: that the president's doing on student deck belief than the 586 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: progress are making out a lot of other issues. So 587 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: this is one area that's broken through. I think it's 588 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 4: broken through in part because the Supreme Court overturned what 589 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: the President was trying to do in terms of canceling 590 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: student debt for millions in America. But he didn't allow 591 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court decision to stop is canceled student debt 592 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 4: for four million Americans to the tune of the one 593 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty eight billion dollars in debt relief through 594 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: every executive lever that he has available to do that, 595 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: and every couple of weeks every month, there are thousands 596 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: of new borrowers getting a letter and email from the 597 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: President saying that their debt is canceled or that their 598 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: payments are reduced. So he's attacking this from every single angle, 599 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 4: and I think it shows the type of work he's 600 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: done throughout the presidency. You know, he doesn't believe this 601 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: is a country that should have crumbling infrastructures, So he 602 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: passed legislation to get forty six thousand infrastructure projects off 603 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: the ground modernists across the country. He doesn't think Europe 604 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 4: and China should lead the world on that. 605 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: He thinks the. 606 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: United States should. He dug into the supply chain crisis 607 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: that was causing inflation into individual issues to look at 608 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 4: things like semiconductors, which power refrigerators in cars. We invented 609 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: those in America, but they were being built overseas in Asia, 610 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 4: and the present pass bipartisan legislation to make sure we're 611 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: building those in America again. Factories are getting off the 612 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 4: ground in places from New York to Arizona. To make 613 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: sure that those chips are built here in the United States. 614 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 4: I mean, he really took and looked at the pandemic 615 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: and the financial crisis that came out of it, to say, 616 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: what do we need to do to build our enomy 617 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 4: in a way it's helping working families, that's bringing prices down, 618 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 4: and that's addressing the cost issue that Americans are facing 619 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 4: at home. And so that's really been the heart of 620 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: his domestic policy agenda. 621 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 622 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: One of the things that I've been impressed with that 623 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: you guys have done is we have this attention economy. 624 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: The goal here is to get in front of voters 625 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: and also to inspire young people. How is the Biden 626 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: Biden administration talking to constituents in ways that are a 627 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: little bit creative and not necessarily traditional because I think 628 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: that you guys are doing interesting stuff. 629 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 630 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: Well, look, you know, from a purch of my job, 631 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: there's nothing more important than that, and it's what I 632 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 4: spend every day on is figuring out how we reach 633 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: the average person across the country. And you have to 634 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: realize the average person is not consuming political news right 635 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 4: They're going about the day. They may have you know, 636 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: a morning show or day side TV on to you know, 637 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 4: catching bits and pieces of it as they're you know, 638 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: making lunch or a family member or heading to a job. 639 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: At night, you know, after dinner, people are watching The Bachelor, 640 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 4: you know, more than they're watching the evening news and so. 641 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: And some people don't have cable, like anyone under. 642 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: Fifty exactly, there's lots of cord cutters now. Streamings increasingly important, 643 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 4: and so the media has just become more fractured. People 644 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 4: have added new channels to their diet, but they haven't 645 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: removed the old channels, and so there's diminishing returns on 646 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: any interview or news event. And so what we have 647 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: to do is figure out how to reach people everywhere 648 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: throughout their day on their smartphone, on consumer media that 649 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 4: doesn't tend to cover political neviws, on digital media, through 650 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 4: every social media platform available. We produced our on content. 651 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: We talked to the media, We talked to the media 652 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 4: at the White House, we talked to the media in 653 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: the States. We brief influencers who have large reach with 654 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: their own audiences. We need to reach people across ages 655 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: and demographics wherever they get their news. So look like 656 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 4: we've got you know, talking to you right now. We've 657 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 4: got a podcast strategy then my dads didn't have four 658 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 4: years ago, So we look at information consumption and we 659 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 4: work backwards from that to make sure we're reaching people. 660 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: Ben Lebault, thank you so much for joining us. I 661 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: hope you'll come back. 662 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: It was great to talk to you and would love 663 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 4: to Thanks Molly, and. 664 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: Now we have a special clip from our sold out 665 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: show at City Winery in New York City with Rick 666 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: Wilson and George Conway. One of the things about Robbie 667 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: Kaplan is you can't just get any lawyer for that case. 668 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 6: I mean, she. 669 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: Really is singularly very smart and go. 670 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 5: And then the way I got to know her was 671 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 5: I had she was. She has another case against Sean 672 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: which most people don't know about. It is a it 673 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 5: is a uh it was a class action. I don't 674 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 5: think I got certified as a class action. But it 675 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 5: involves lots and lots of people who. 676 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: They were Trump Steaks, No, Trump Water. 677 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 5: No, it's it's Trump University. No, but it's but it's 678 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 5: it was a ripoff. It was it's called no, no, 679 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 5: what is it? 680 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 6: That Trump for President campaign? 681 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 5: Free drinks for that table where we go That right, 682 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 5: very smart crowd scheme where it was like you can 683 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 5: get rich just you know, and roll in our program, 684 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 5: send us money. And it basically it was a what 685 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 5: they call multiply was that was that the that the 686 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 5: and the and the and they and they pushed it 687 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 5: on the apprentice. He did and what was Don Jr? 688 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 5: And there was I am shocked. 689 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: Don Jr. 690 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 5: Was basically lost the load of money and there was 691 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 5: you know that you can demonstrate apparently the evidence is 692 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 5: pretty strong. You can demonstrate basically there was no way 693 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 5: anybody other than Donald Trump and the founders of ACN 694 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 5: We're gonna make any money on us. So I had 695 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 5: read this complaints, so I have read well, because the 696 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 5: judge didn't certify it as a class action, refused are 697 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 5: uncertified it as a class action. So that piece of 698 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 5: it's going up. So it's not gonna it's not gonna 699 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 5: get tried this year. So but you know, at some 700 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 5: day he's gonna have to get out of prison to 701 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 5: testify in this case. But I mean, you're maybe no, 702 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 5: maybe maybe they'll just let him testify for my satellite 703 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 5: from you know, from the they'll have to shut down 704 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 5: the license plate making room for a couple of hours 705 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 5: and he can have his deposition. 706 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 6: I've read in the prison laundry. 707 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 7: Now it's the best rud laundry in any federal correction. 708 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 5: The c before I got here, the prison commissary, no 709 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 5: one liked it. 710 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 6: It was strong. 711 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 5: Prisoners came up to me and would say, sir, we 712 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 5: have a terrible, terrible commissary. 713 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 6: It's it's it's it's. 714 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 5: Do we need a businessman, a stable genius to run 715 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 5: the commissary? 716 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 6: Before the things there, we're not classy. I've made them classy. 717 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 5: And the license plates, they were terrible. They were the 718 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 5: worst license plates. Now they shine. They are Trump license. 719 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 6: Plates are more beautiful license plates than these. 720 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: When do I tell them to stop? Or can I 721 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 2: let them keep doing it? 722 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 3: Oh? 723 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: They can keep doing it? 724 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 5: Okay, did this on the We should just do this 725 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 5: on the Jimmy Kimmel's right something right, right? 726 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,720 Speaker 6: I mean we can. 727 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 5: Okay, Well yeah, I. 728 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 7: Mean, but George, you're you're more bullish than a lot 729 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 7: of people. On Trump actually going to prison, Yes, talk 730 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 7: about that, because there are a lot of people it's 731 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 7: really simple. 732 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's criminal. 733 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 6: I have noticed a lot of criming. 734 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and look at I mean, look at it 735 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 5: this way. He's got the ninety one counts basically any 736 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 5: combination of them. I mean it's like you gotta okay, 737 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 5: they should have a roulette wheel. They've got the quick 738 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 5: ninety one. You know, wherever the ball lands, that's three 739 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 5: or four years right there. So you know, you just 740 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 5: a couple of spins, bye bye. 741 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 2: So that's I feel. 742 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: Like you will not be said to see him go. 743 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 5: I you know, I don't wish him unwell. He is unwell. 744 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 5: I don't wish him unwell. I mean I I don't. 745 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: I think when you like the Republican Party back. 746 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 5: We're never getting it back. 747 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 6: It's gone. 748 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 5: It's gone. It's dead, it's gone. I mean, you know, 749 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 5: it's it's basically, if Trump doesn't destroy the Republican Party 750 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 5: this year, it'll be because he got elected and he will 751 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 5: destroy the country, right, But he's not going to do that. 752 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 5: And I think that you can already see the tensions 753 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 5: in the Republican Party at the state level. At the 754 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 5: federal level, You've got Henry Barber saying no, don't spend 755 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 5: the money on Trump's legal defense and his judgments. You know, 756 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 5: you've got you've got all these I mean at the 757 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 5: state level. Look, the Republican Party is a disaster because 758 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 5: all the looney tunes have taken over the state. The 759 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 5: state parties, Michigan's are perfect. Florida can't raise any money 760 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 5: because they're crazy. You know, we we haven't seen everybody. 761 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 5: I want all the Democrats to be paranoid and upset 762 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 5: and scared. 763 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 6: We don't don't. 764 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 5: Because I want all of you people to walk on 765 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 5: a crawl unbroken glass with people on your back to 766 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 5: the you know, in a swing state, please take you know, 767 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 5: get on Jet blue or. 768 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 6: Whatever whatever whatever, register legally, and. 769 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 5: That's you know, that's that's the way. You know, it's 770 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 5: it's when you assume that, oh, he's such an idiot, 771 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 5: he can't win. Is y he wins? Yeah, And that's 772 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 5: what happened in twenty sixteen. 773 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 7: I remember twenty sixteen. I was talking to people around 774 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 7: Clinton World. 775 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 6: They're like, oh man, they've got this in the bag. 776 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 6: It's amazing. 777 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 5: They were hanging out in. 778 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 6: Brook they were picking out curtains in the west wind. 779 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 7: They were like, I'm going to be the deputy Secretary 780 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 7: of Commers, I'm going to be in the state and 781 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 7: where were they after that? 782 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 5: And then and then but they figured it out, like 783 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 5: with seven days to go before the election, which is 784 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 5: why they held that big rally in Philadelphia, and it 785 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 5: was and they never how many times they go to 786 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 5: Wisconsin zero? 787 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the reason they did go to Wisconsin was 788 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: because every time she went it wasn't good, was it 789 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: didn't do whatever. 790 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 6: Here's here's the book. 791 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 5: The reason why she lost was because the election became 792 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 5: about her. 793 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 794 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 5: The reason why he lost in twenty twenty was because 795 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 5: the election was about him, because he was the incumbent 796 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 5: and the lunatic. And twenty twenty four he is going 797 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 5: to lose because he cannot help but make the election 798 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 5: about him, because everything has to be about him. And 799 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 5: they can tell him, no, you have to say you 800 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 5: have to you know, you have to talk about Joe Biden, 801 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 5: and he'll mutter some things about Biden crime family where 802 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 5: he's see and then he's gonna say blah blah, and 803 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 5: then and then and then people like people like Rick 804 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 5: are gonna run ads saying you know, you are a lunatic, 805 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 5: You're a madman, and he's gonna say, no, I'm not. 806 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 5: He's gonna spend all day saying I'm a stable genius 807 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 5: and he's gonna look like a complete and one of 808 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 5: the things we have to do this year, everybody was 809 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 5: upset about this guy herd the council. It's like, no, 810 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 5: he did he doesn't. He did us a favor because 811 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 5: he put the mental state of our presidential candidates an issue. 812 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 5: And okay, hey, Joe's old. He forgets stuff. I forget stuff. 813 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 5: We're all forgetting stuff. Okay, he needs more sleep than 814 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 5: he used to, like my dog, like my dog, Bonnie. 815 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 8: Yes, okay, Bonnie, and so fucking what Yeah, okay, and 816 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 8: you're here, all right, So so let's let's talk about 817 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 8: You got the old guy who's nice and not crazy 818 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 8: and doesn't wanna it, doesn't want. 819 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 5: To destroy the be a dictator for damn a minute. 820 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 6: Or burn down the republic, burn down the. 821 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 5: Republic, or you know, reak vengeance upon his enemies. 822 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 2: That's us, by the way, in case you're wondering, Yeah. 823 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 6: I want the I want the bungalow nearest to the 824 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 6: to the fire pit. 825 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what Givemo is known for its bungalows. 826 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 5: But anyway, I mean, you know, one of the one 827 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 5: of the great failures. So the press was that, I mean, 828 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 5: it's his problem. Isn't just that he's losing it, like 829 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 5: he's losing it in terms of his ability to recall things, 830 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 5: his language ability is is aphasia, all these things. His 831 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 5: problem is the same problem he's had this entire life. 832 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 5: He's a narcissistic sociopath. And and the thing that's that's that's. 833 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna clap for narcissistic. 834 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 5: Exact, everybody cluster b let's hear it for cluster We 835 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 5: having a hand for all these people who know what 836 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 5: cluster b is. Everyone took a cluster b he he 837 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 5: we need to talk about that. And four years ago, 838 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 5: oh my god, four and a half years ago, I 839 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 5: wrote a piece in The Atlantic that was like eleven 840 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 5: thousand words trying to get people to focus on the 841 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 5: fact that he was a narcissist somath. No. But you know, 842 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 5: I mean it got some press. It really got a 843 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 5: lot of play in the Beltway. I think all of 844 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 5: the basically all the journalists read it and they said, oh, 845 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 5: that makes sense, but they still ill wouldn't report it 846 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 5: because because well, well there's there's first of all, there's 847 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 5: there's a, there's a everybody's used to his lunacy. So 848 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 5: you know, we've defined deviancy down if you will, and 849 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 5: we've we've basically, you know, or psychologists or sociology called 850 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 5: it malignant normality. And so everything he's graded on a curve. 851 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 5: But there's the gold Water Rule, and the press always 852 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 5: afraid about the Goldwater Rule says says that mental health 853 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 5: professionals cannot talk about people who are not their patients, 854 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 5: and they and and so they're afraid to go near it. 855 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 5: The problem is all the reasons behind the Goldwater Rule 856 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 5: don't apply here. Like one is, well, how can you 857 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 5: how can you say somebody has this condition if you 858 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 5: haven't examined them. Dude, we have been examining this fucking 859 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 5: guy for how many years now? Nine nine years, nine 860 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 5: nine and years. And it's not like it's not like 861 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 5: it's ambiguous or marginal. I mean, if you look at 862 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 5: you know, this isn't hard. I mean, it's it's actually 863 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 5: written in plain English that diagnosed The Constatistical Manual of 864 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 5: of of mental disorders is the description of narcissistic personality 865 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 5: disorder and it's and anti social personality disorder. Of the 866 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 5: two clear ones that he clearly has. You go through 867 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 5: one through nine, only like five of them you have 868 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 5: to have. He's nine for nine, like five, they're like 869 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 5: five of them. For for sociopathy, ding ding ding ding ding, 870 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 5: you only need like three. It's like so much winning, 871 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 5: so much winning and everything. If you look at those 872 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 5: behavioral characteristics, it explained everything makes sense about Donald Trump. Everything, 873 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 5: the pathological line that's basically part and parcelov of the 874 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 5: self regard, the talking about himself, the fact that he 875 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 5: thinks that that the soldiers who die and to protect 876 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 5: democracy are our suckers and losers. Okay, this is this 877 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 5: is this is Donald Trump. This is his this is 878 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 5: his sociopathy and his narcissism. And and you know, there 879 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 5: was there was one I was sort of wondering about, Well, 880 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 5: was he is he is? There is Does he assault people? Yes, yeah, 881 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 5: we've proven that already. And and there are just so 882 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 5: many I mean it, literally he checks every box. And 883 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 5: we need to start talking about that because it explains 884 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 5: almost everything about him, about his desire to use the 885 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 5: government as an instrument for revenge, about his problem with 886 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 5: not seeking consent before in trying to engage in sexual relations, 887 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 5: with other people, and you know his fevery stealing documents 888 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 5: and money. Do I mention the pathological line? Yeah, you know, 889 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 5: it's all. It all makes sense when you say this 890 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 5: is this guy is textbook and and the press will 891 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 5: not talk about it. They'll just say, oh, he's unconventional 892 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 5: because he's a fucking lunatic. 893 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 6: But take him seriously but not literally, No, take him literally. 894 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 5: He's crazy and and and you know, I I think 895 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 5: that's something that we need to talk about this year. 896 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 5: And now that we. 897 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: Are he's the nominee again. 898 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 5: We're gonna start talking about it this year more than ever. 899 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 5: And you you know, we're. 900 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: Gonna talking over The goal is we're going to talk 901 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 1: about it for eight months and then we're never going 902 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: to talk about him, right. 903 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 9: That's what we want, and then we go back to 904 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 9: having normal politics with normal presidents who you might not 905 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 9: agree with, but who you don't think are going to. 906 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 7: Asp You know what, I don't think we're going to 907 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 7: be clear of it, even if we beat him this year. 908 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 7: I don't think we're going to be clear of it 909 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 7: for a while. There's a lot of bad incentives out there, 910 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 7: I hope. So there's a lot of bad incentives out 911 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 7: there to make people act in crazy ways. 912 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 5: And that's not in the clubhouses. Yeah, right, running there 913 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 5: the Lauren Boberts. But that's the thing. I mean, I 914 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 5: think the Republican Party is going to fall apart because 915 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 5: those people are not going to be able to hold 916 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,439 Speaker 5: it together. Yeah. 917 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 1: One of the things go ahead, one of the things 918 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: you would say to me for years now, as you've 919 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: been saying to me, he's going to destroy the Republican Party. 920 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I mean functionally the party doesn't exist. 921 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 5: It doesn't exist anymore. 922 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,919 Speaker 7: Right, there's no ideology, there's no philosophy, there's no plan 923 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 7: of governance. 924 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 5: It's all about Well, there was the twenty twenty Republican platform. 925 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 6: You mean, the one that was whatever Donald says goes. 926 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 5: Yeah. They said we will just reprint the one from 927 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. 928 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 6: It's better when it was like the Bath Party platform. 929 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 930 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: Oh but but yeah, I think that's a really good point. 931 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: We are, Uh, he really has all of the It's 932 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 1: funny because as Nicky Haley and Nikki Hally's last sort 933 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: of hurrah, she was talking about spending, government spending, and 934 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I haven't heard a Republican talk about 935 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: this in like five seasons. 936 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 6: No, it was, it was. 937 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 5: It was so quaint. I remember like that first debate, 938 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 5: it's like. 939 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 6: Oh, tell us more about them. Before times Grandma was. 940 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 5: Talking about not spending money wastefully. Wow, that's like that's 941 00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 5: the earth I grew up on. What how into that planet? 942 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 5: So I give her credit for that. Yeah, I don't 943 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 5: give her credit for raising her and saying, well, I'll 944 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 5: vote for him even he's a criminal. And did she 945 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 5: say she'd pardon him or no? 946 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, she said several times that She's like, we just 947 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 7: have to put it behind us. I'm like, yeah, close 948 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 7: the jail, Doring's behind us. 949 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:25,399 Speaker 5: That's she seems to have gotten better lately. I don't know. Yeah, 950 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 5: it's gonna last. 951 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: She's out now she's going. 952 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 5: Look, I know she's out, but I I but she was, 953 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 5: she's she was actually getting close to saying the right 954 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 5: things almost consistently. 955 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: And then she was like, and Joe Biden's bad too. 956 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well I hope she. I hope she stays strong. 957 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 6: I don't hold a lot of hope for it, though. 958 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 7: I Mean, I've just seen too many of these people 959 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,280 Speaker 7: join that cadre of broken men and women who oppose 960 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 7: Trump and. 961 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 6: Then so befo him anyway, because Biden's communism, and then 962 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 6: you end up being like a hollow shell of a man, 963 00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 6: like a Marco or a Ted. 964 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 5: Cran What about it, right, If I had to bet 965 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 5: money on that. 966 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 6: Rudy, Rudy's on a hollow shell of anything. Rudy is. 967 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 5: Rudy is like Rudy is, he's he's just sloshing around. 968 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 6: Rudy is destroyed. Yeah, yes, listen, I would actually not 969 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 6: actually full. I wouldn't even describe it as secrets. 970 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 7: I would describe it something on the lower shelf in 971 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 7: the plastic jug wild No, no, not even wild turkey, 972 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 7: like old Ocelot or. 973 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: All right, we have zero minutes left. 974 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 10: Yes, I'm going to break this up, this party, but 975 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 10: it was absolutely amazing, all right, George Conway, No, no moment. 976 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 6: So it's now time for a moment. We're standing now 977 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 6: for the moments of fu We really. 978 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 1: Wanted to and this whole time didn't we So we 979 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: are in the moment of fuckery. For people who listen 980 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: to my podcast, that's something we do there. 981 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 3: Do you do it in your podcast? 982 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 5: No? I do. 983 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 6: Who's on the enemy's list. 984 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 5: Oh and oh that's good. 985 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: I listened to your podcast, so don't. It's didn't make 986 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: it sound it made it sound like I don't, but 987 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 1: I do. Obviously, moment of buckery, you're gonna go first 988 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,359 Speaker 1: because you have real scorged earth. 989 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 6: Is Mitch motherfucking McConnell. 990 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 7: That is a man who, at two critical moments in 991 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 7: our American history, had the chance to shut. 992 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 6: Donald Trump's ship down. He had the chance. 993 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 7: He said the right thing after January sixth, and when 994 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 7: he said Donald Trump did this, he caused this, and 995 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 7: you know what he did what he did this week? 996 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 11: Will hope to endorse Trump because of what don't you know? 997 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 11: We'll hold full communism when Joe Biden is a Marxis socialist. 998 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 11: And guess what This is a man who insulted Mitch 999 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 11: McConnell's wife, who called her Coco chow, overtly racist, unbelievably 1000 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 11: destructive to McConnell's plan to hold power in the Senate, 1001 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 11: and yet all he cares about is the vestigial twitch 1002 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 11: reflex of maintaining a Republican Therefore, most vote for the 1003 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 11: guy is divorced from every single moral aspect of what 1004 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 11: Trump is and does. And for that, Mitch McConnell, is 1005 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 11: my moment of fuckery. 1006 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: Nice. 1007 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 3: That was very good. 1008 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 9: Go girl, you're pretty good at this. 1009 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: So my moment of fuckery is actually something I've seen 1010 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: now because I was interviewing Tammy Baldwin the other day, 1011 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: great senator from the state of Wisconsin running for reelection, 1012 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: good people, and she was saying to me, you know, 1013 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: they actually brought in a candidate who lives in California 1014 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: to run for the Wisconsin seed. 1015 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 7: Well, it's like Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania. He flew his 1016 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 7: jet down from his house in Connecticut. 1017 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 6: I'm not kidding you, No, no, he really did. 1018 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 5: And this is not even a joke. 1019 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 6: They bought a house in. 1020 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 7: A very fancy neighborhood, I know because they know one 1021 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 7: of his neighbors, and they fly their jet down there 1022 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 7: when Dave has to come down for events. They commute 1023 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 7: from Connecticut to run for US Senate in Pennsylvania. 1024 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 6: But this is happening in. 1025 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: Wisconsin, and he actually lives in a seven million dollar 1026 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: house in California. But these are candidates who are carbon baggers, 1027 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: but they're also self funded, and so I just wonder 1028 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: and again, we are going to see more reporting on this, 1029 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,280 Speaker 1: but I just wonder how much of these self funded 1030 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: candidates are running because the RNC is having some trouble 1031 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: raising money. 1032 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 6: It's listen, McConnell. 1033 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 7: This was part of McConnell's plan for a long time 1034 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 7: was to get wealthy moderate Republicans to run and smash them. 1035 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 6: Ag. Here's the again, going back to my moment of fucker. 1036 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 7: The irony is that Mitch McConnell after twenty twelve said, oh, 1037 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 7: fuck these tea Party people, We're going to put more 1038 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 7: modern Republicans in. 1039 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 6: Well. 1040 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 7: That didn't work in the end of the day, but 1041 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 7: so then there the plan was, oh, well, we'll get 1042 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 7: these rich guys. 1043 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 6: They're donor class guys. We know who they are. 1044 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 7: They like money, we like money, and it made it 1045 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 7: easier for them to counteract the crazy right and also. 1046 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: All and also all that money is going to Trump's 1047 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: legal bills, so you got to get bless them. 1048 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 5: And that is our moment off the Great Well. 1049 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 6: And by the way that it started, my experience. 1050 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 5: Was we've done it. I know, We've done it. 1051 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in 1052 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: every Monday Wednesday and Friday to hear the best minds 1053 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: in politics makes sense of all this chaos. 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