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Speaker 1: All right, splash It Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's our third show.

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Speaker 1: I'm fp Santangela, washed up has been Giant, current Giant.

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Speaker 1: Broadcaster Susan Sluster for The Chronicle is a frequent guest

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Speaker 1: on the show, but today it's all about our special guest.

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Speaker 1: He's going to join us for the first half of

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Speaker 1: the show. He is a gold Glove winner and the

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Speaker 1: Giants a slogan web webby. Thanks for coming on, Mat,

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Speaker 1: How you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, tell us about the gold Glove. That's pretty

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Speaker 1: cool and how that came into fruition and the award itself.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the coolest trophy in all the baseball

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Speaker 1: besides the big one that's right there in the clubhouse

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Speaker 1: when you walk on the right. But talk about winning

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Speaker 1: the gold.

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Speaker 2: Glove, Yeah, it was definitely something I you know, I

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Speaker 2: didn't I wanted to get better on defense.

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Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily want to.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't It wasn't like gold Glove or bust, right,

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Speaker 2: And I think that's Patty's goal. I think now that

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Speaker 2: he's you know, done it a couple of times, and

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Speaker 2: but I just wanted to kind of get better at defense.

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Speaker 2: I felt like, especially holding runners.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that was that big of a part

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Speaker 3: of it, but it was.

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Speaker 2: And I just wanted to put the team, honestly, in

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Speaker 2: a better position. I think I was hurting myself and

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Speaker 2: and the team by, you know, letting guys run all

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Speaker 2: over me. And I just I wanted to get better

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Speaker 2: at it. And uh, you know, it's an honor to

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Speaker 2: win it. It's really cool that, you know. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know until I got on that interview a week or

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Speaker 2: two ago when they said we're the first one since

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Speaker 2: Wayne Wright and YACHTI. I feel like anytime you're in

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Speaker 2: a conversation with with those two guys, it's, uh, it's

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Speaker 2: really special. And uh yeah, I got to go to

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Speaker 2: the ceremony in New York. They put on an amazing

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Speaker 2: event at the Plaza. Got to meet a bunch of

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Speaker 2: cool guys and and people there, and yeah, the award

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Speaker 2: is is really cool. I don't get to see mine

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Speaker 2: until next year when they I finally get to go

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Speaker 2: out there with the other guys and accept it during.

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Speaker 3: Before one of the games.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I I got to when if

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Speaker 2: you saw the video meets seeing the glove for the

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Speaker 2: first time.

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Speaker 3: But it was.

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Speaker 2: It was really cool and uh happy I can share,

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Speaker 2: especially with Patty too. You know, he's one of the

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Speaker 2: best defenders in baseball, if not the best if you

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Speaker 2: look at metrics and other other stuff.

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Speaker 3: But being able to say I can do it with

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Speaker 3: him was was awesome.

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Speaker 4: Look, you and I, You and you and I talked

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Speaker 4: a lot about, especially early in the season, about the

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Speaker 4: work you were doing about holding runners. How did somebody

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Speaker 4: help you with that? Like, was there were there any

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Speaker 4: real keys for you for that, because you I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you know, but like by the mid middle of the season,

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Speaker 4: you were so far in front of the other pitchers

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Speaker 4: in terms of all the metrics on holding runners. It

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Speaker 4: was outrageous and it was it just took like kind

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Speaker 4: of the off season and in the start of the

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Speaker 4: season working on it. So that was really incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it Uh it started honestly the year before,

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Speaker 2: which is funny because I was like the third worst

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Speaker 2: defender at the pitcher position. But we were trying to

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Speaker 2: it didn't hurt necessarily that much, but I felt like

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Speaker 2: I just I think the Cardinal Game, I told you guys,

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Speaker 2: the Cardinal Game the year before was really tough. Thankfully,

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Speaker 2: I had a guy over there that I knew, mister

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Speaker 3: I did you know. I worked on it. I tried

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Speaker 2: I definitely had some I mean, the game nowadays it's

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Speaker 2: I didn't know it. I was always would always wonder

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Speaker 2: I I know, you watch Gosman throw. You got a

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Speaker 2: really I would try my best. And in bullpens, you know,

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Speaker 3: To get a good feel for stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I would ask them and put the clock out

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Speaker 2: And I think once I think I got into a game,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing something right.

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Speaker 3: So I just try to keep it going well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you're being modest right now. I

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Speaker 1: mean you you have made the improvements in holding runners,

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Speaker 1: but you're also an athlete out there, and you know

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Speaker 1: in the clubhouse and pitchers aren't athletes.

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Speaker 2: We go back and forth all the time.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a high school quarterback and all the

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Speaker 1: plays you made, the one that stands out to me

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Speaker 1: on the double play against the Dodgers and the emotion

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Speaker 1: you showed after touching the base. I mean, you've had

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Speaker 1: the diving plays where you dive at first base, but like,

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Speaker 1: I think you're selling yourself a little bit short. It's

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Speaker 1: not just about holding runners like you're an athlete out

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Speaker 2: I try to be you know, it is the the

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Speaker 2: joke in the clubhouse that pitchers aren't athletes. And to

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Speaker 2: it's it holds some truth. But yeah, I think, especially

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Speaker 3: You know able.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get better at catching balls too.

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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Times when you know, there's a lot of balls hit harder,

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Speaker 3: So I just wanted to.

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Speaker 2: I just felt like.

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Speaker 3: I needed to in all those parts of the game.

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Speaker 4: At Yeah, you're keeping a lot more double plays in

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Speaker 4: every way, and you're getting over to first better to

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Speaker 2: Double place Yeah, and I together perfect. Well, that's what

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Speaker 2: kind of JP said at the end of last year.

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Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, if we just get better at this,

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Speaker 2: I think at the end of the year, JP kind

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Speaker 2: all the analysts do all this stuff, but they can

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Speaker 2: figure out, like if you didn't let them steal the base.

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Speaker 2: You've saved this many runs and I you know, saved

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Speaker 2: the name of the game is. Just trying to keep

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Speaker 2: if I'm you know, being a dumbass out there and

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Speaker 3: And you got Patty.

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Speaker 2: Behind the plate, so give him a chance to throw

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Speaker 1: I mean you could have won a Silver Slugger Award too,

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Speaker 1: if that was still an award for pitchers, you might

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Speaker 1: have won that too. But we got to get to

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Speaker 1: the off season news. Tony Vitello, he's he's your new manager.

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Speaker 1: What are your impressions. When was the first time you met?

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Speaker 1: and how you feel about that whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew about it a little bit. I knew

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Speaker 2: we were talking to him, and then I think I

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Speaker 3: I reached out to him.

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Speaker 2: We texted a little back and forth, and I was

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Speaker 2: I got to meet him in person, which was awesome.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna bring a lot of enthusiasm, you know. He's uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, a Brillian and I think baseball guy, and

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Speaker 2: him and I think something that is going to be

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Speaker 2: great for us. He just wants everyone on the same page,

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Speaker 2: like this is this is what we're.

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Speaker 3: Trying to do. The main goal is to win at all.

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Speaker 2: Costs, and uh, I think it's gonna be great. I

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Speaker 2: texted all the guys after where I was like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if anyone's met him, but I did get

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Speaker 2: get to meet him, and I you know, I texted Chatie, Willie,

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Speaker 2: I text all us saying, this guy's this guy is

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Speaker 2: work with him.

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Speaker 4: When when you first when you first heard about it, Logan,

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Speaker 4: was there any like like, I don't know thought in

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Speaker 4: your mind like, well, you know, he hasn't had any

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Speaker 4: pro experience of any kind, playing, coaching, managing. Uh, maybe

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Speaker 4: there might be some veterans that might not totally be

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Speaker 4: you do you feel like the personality and the experience

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Speaker 4: just like wipes any of that out.

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Speaker 2: I really don't. I don't know how much much all

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Speaker 1: And that's what I was gonna ask you, Well, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So how important is it to you at this

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Speaker 2: I thought at the end of the year, I saw

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Speaker 2: I there's some mechanical things that I was really excited

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Speaker 2: about that I felt, you know, talking to people, and

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to keep going with that, try to get

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Speaker 2: better at that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're a strikeout guy now four strikeouts. You led

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Speaker 1: the National League in strikeouts? Is that your new thing?

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Speaker 1: Are you just blowing guys away next year.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, Maybe it's a fluke here. I won the

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Speaker 2: gold Glove. I was the worst defender and I won

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Speaker 2: the gold Glove. And I'm not a strikeout guy, and

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Speaker 2: I struck out all, you know, more guys than I

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Speaker 2: ever have. But no, that's that's kind of the evolvment thing. That's,

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Speaker 2: you know, trying to get better in certain ways. Definitely,

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Speaker 2: I think Justin was a big part of the strikeouts

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Speaker 2: going up, you know, finding new ways to to get

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Speaker 2: strikes early and counts, throwing different pitches.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I felt like before I'd get in trouble with it

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Speaker 2: too where I would just kind of heavily lean on

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Speaker 2: my change up and if it's the eighth or ninth

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Speaker 2: time the guy's seen it in a game, it's probably

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Speaker 2: not going to be as effective. And learning I can

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Speaker 2: throw other pitches and different counts, and I thought that

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Speaker 2: was really cool. And yes, try to get to try

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Speaker 2: to get a little better, I think definitely, you know,

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Speaker 2: I do think the extra velo is a thing. I'm

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Speaker 2: not chasing one hundred, but I think if I can

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Speaker 2: maintain it a little longer in games, I know, I

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Speaker 2: you know, I can get to ninety four, ninety five

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Speaker 2: early in a game, and then by the end of

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Speaker 2: the game it's ninety two. So if I can maintain

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Speaker 2: a little better, and that's part of the mechanical things

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Speaker 2: that I'm excited about.

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Speaker 1: Susan, you asked one more, and I'll ask one more

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Speaker 1: and we'll let them go.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've got the really important one. Since it's YAF season,

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering how you're doing in the fantasy football I have.

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Speaker 2: I so in the Giants one, I think I'm in

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Speaker 2: a playoff spot right now. I think I'm six and four,

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Speaker 2: so not bad. I'm honestly five hundred in like every league,

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Speaker 2: which I don't know if I'm excited about that that

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Speaker 2: I'm not bad in any league, but.

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Speaker 3: It's been a weird I feel like it's been a

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Speaker 3: weird football year. You know. I have one league where

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Speaker 3: I have like.

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Speaker 2: Six of the best players and they're just not working

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Speaker 2: out for me, and I'm not in the playoffs in

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Speaker 2: that league. But in another league, I don't have as

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Speaker 2: good as players and I'm in the playoffs. So it's

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Speaker 2: just it's all weird.

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Speaker 4: I would say I'm rooting for you in the Giants one,

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Speaker 4: except for I think we would all love to see

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Speaker 4: you be the bat boy for a day. So I

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Speaker 4: don't know's that's one.

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Speaker 3: Well Chappie.

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Speaker 2: So Chappie won the league last year and his team

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Speaker 2: is not very good this year. So I'm hoping we

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Speaker 2: get to see Matt Chapman, uh bat boy sighting this year.

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Speaker 1: He'd actually have to take it. Yeah, last one, Logan,

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Speaker 1: we let you go. Thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 1: This is huge for our podcast. You're first guest ever.

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Speaker 1: It's been great. I know you just want to gold glove.

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Speaker 1: I know Asai Young means a lot to you too.

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Speaker 1: But what would a World Championship in the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: Giants uniform in the Logan web?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be the best, you know, I I've I

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Speaker 2: came up in an error with uh. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys still there from the championship years.

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Speaker 2: It was bomb I mean, I'm gonna keep naming Bombbuster,

510
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Speaker 2: crab Bell all these guys, right. And I got to

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Speaker 2: see firsthand how much it meant to these guys and

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Speaker 2: how much the Giants mean.

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Speaker 3: To them, and it was really cool.

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Speaker 2: And then I had my first really full season was

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Speaker 2: twenty one and we won one hundred and seven games,

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Speaker 2: and I thought there was no chance that any team

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Speaker 2: was going to beat us. We I just felt that way,

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Speaker 2: and we came close, not really that close, but you know,

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Speaker 2: one run away from going to the CS and and I, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I just thought that was gonna how it was,

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Speaker 2: how it was going to be the rest of my

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Speaker 2: career here, Right's uh, it's the Giants were just going

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Speaker 2: to keep winning and unfortunately hasn't worked out. It's starting

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Speaker 2: to get, you know, more and more frustrating at the

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Speaker 2: end of seasons. But it's it's it's just something that

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Speaker 2: I want to do. I mean, I think everybody wants

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Speaker 2: if you're playing the big leagues, you want to win

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Speaker 2: a World Series, but it's especially it would be especially

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Speaker 2: great to win it in a Giants uniform. I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: hoping I'm here my whole career, but that's not always.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't always work out that way. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I got three more years left on my contract, and

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Speaker 2: I just hope, you know, hopefully it's this year, right

534
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Speaker 2: and hopefully we you know, uh, Buster goes out and

535
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Speaker 2: signs all the best players and we trade for all

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Speaker 2: the best players. But but no, I I think, uh,

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Speaker 2: I think we're on the right track. I think we've

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Speaker 2: got a good corps guy core group of guys. I

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Speaker 2: think bringing a guy like Tony is gonna be a

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Speaker 2: huge part of it. And uh, I'm super excited for

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Speaker 2: this year. But I feel like I'm going away from

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Speaker 2: your question. Yes, that is the that is something that

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Speaker 2: I I, you know, hopefully look forward.

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Speaker 3: To doing in a Giants uniform, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got all the guys, the boat she got,

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Speaker 2: you know, bringing saves back. You're just all the all

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Speaker 2: the it's it's exciting.

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Speaker 3: It's exciting.

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Speaker 2: Webby.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, man, I know you're working out. You

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Speaker 1: take time for us. It means a lot to us,

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Speaker 1: bro and I look forward to seeing you soon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, key, and we really appreciate that. Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 3: guys for having Mebby.

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Speaker 2: Bye guys, Bye,