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Speaker 2: The percentage of conspiracy theorists who believe that the United

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Speaker 3: So in this thing of we are in this odd

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Speaker 1: There are more people believe it.

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Speaker 3: Trump himself has has talked about conspiracies about this death,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I remember that one His father.

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Speaker 3: That theory, I just want to not was based on

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Speaker 2: I feel like Regis Philip and it's all bonkers things

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Speaker 2: The percentage of Republicans who believe in the conspiracy theory

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Speaker 3: And this isn't there are more conspiracy theories as we

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Speaker 5: You know, Mike. I feel welcome, And from a favorite

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Speaker 5: a beautiful monsoon in Waco, Texas. So happy twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Now get we needed it, though, didn't we?

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Speaker 5: Oh? I love the rain. I love Mother Nature even

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Speaker 1: Well, it's always a blast to have you on because

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Speaker 1: you bring such a message of hope, inspiration, dedication, commitment, motivation.

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Speaker 5: Well and Michael back at shall I mean, I'm addicted

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Speaker 5: to truth logic and common sense. Not my truth logic

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Speaker 5: this gets kind of mushy right now, No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: and hunting. Let's talk about your music. The fiftieth anniversary

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Speaker 5: Well, am I. We've talked about this before, that my

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Speaker 1: Well, it is timeless, It is truly timeless, and I

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Speaker 1: How did you first hear it? Were you noodling on

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm always playing. I played my guitar and shoot

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Speaker 5: my bow and trained with my firearms, literally, Michael, every day.

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Speaker 5: Talk about that please well again, Michael, thanks letting me

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Speaker 1: Can you hold it? This moment is our guest, Ted

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Speaker 1: Nugent dot com. More coming on honest, Michael Berry almost

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Speaker 1: that the Motor City Madman is our guest. He has

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Speaker 1: stayed extra with us. A new project called the nuge

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Speaker 1: Vault you can find it at nuge vault dot com

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00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: is described as your front row seat to submerge yourself

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Speaker 1: in rock and roll history like never before. This is

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Speaker 1: occasioned by Ted Nugent's celebration of the fiftieth five zero

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Speaker 1: anniversary of his iconic rock album not album, It's an

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Speaker 1: anthem album. Sorry I lost my train of thought, stranglehold.

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Speaker 1: He's got a speakeasy rockout gig tour going on. He's

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Speaker 1: going to be at the Kenney Store this weekend on

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Speaker 1: the thirty first. He's got a blank Kicker. I'm not

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Speaker 1: allowed to say it, but it rhymes with Pitt Kicker.

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Speaker 1: Speakeasy rockouts in Michigan in Texas this spring and summer.

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Speaker 1: Uncle Ted played for us at the RCC and I

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Speaker 1: will tell you a couple of takeaways I have from that, folks.

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Speaker 1: Number one is people love Uncle Ted. We sold out

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Speaker 1: just like that. We sold out fast. Number two is

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Speaker 1: we have never needed so much sound. It was an

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Speaker 1: entire eighteen wheeler of speakers that came in. It was insane,

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Speaker 1: I mean insane. Number three, this guy's been doing this

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Speaker 1: for more years than I've been alive, and he does

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Speaker 1: not mail it in. You pay good money and he

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Speaker 1: gives you everything he's got on stage and before and after,

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Speaker 1: and as a venue owner, that mattered more to me

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Speaker 1: than anything else. And I don't know if I've ever

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Speaker 1: thanked you for that, but that was a hell of

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Speaker 1: a night.

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Speaker 5: Brother. Every night, thank you for that, Michael. And you're right,

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Speaker 5: there is an energy level that the real music lovers

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Speaker 5: bring to me. And the inspiration from the audience is

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Speaker 5: actually dangerous. I mean, I sweat so much on stage.

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Speaker 5: We have ducks on the limit to come in because

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Speaker 5: because they expect to flush a mallard from my puddle

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Speaker 5: of sweat on stage. Yes, there's a James Brown work

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Speaker 5: ethic that we deliver every night. I tell my band

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Speaker 5: before we go on, tonight is the most important concert

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Speaker 5: of our life. And we say that every night, because

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Speaker 5: every night is the most important concert of our life.

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Speaker 5: We want to deliver the beast, the grind, the groove,

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Speaker 5: the fun, the spirit, the piss and the vinegar, the

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Speaker 5: middle finger against all things evil, which I weave into

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Speaker 5: the wonderful, entertaining evening. But yeah, well, thank you for that,

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Speaker 5: because the people do rave about our shows. Because I've

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Speaker 5: I'm out of control. I mean, I get on stage.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to get on stage and play these songs.

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Speaker 5: As a guitar player, I just happen to have created

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Speaker 5: some of the most exciting and fun guitar licks to

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Speaker 5: ever play. So I'm still like a crazy kid back

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Speaker 5: in Detroit nineteen fifty nine when I get ready to

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Speaker 5: perform every night. And I think the people have noticed that.

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Speaker 5: They celebrate that, and their reciprocity from audience to stage

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Speaker 5: is like a tsunami of energy. So once again, how

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Speaker 5: lucky can I be?

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm going to ask you a questions, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let Ted Nugent be Ted nugent. I

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Speaker 1: just want you to give the shortest, most succinct answer

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Speaker 1: you can and without giving it much thought, just whatever

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Speaker 1: pops in your brain.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you got it.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna walk out right now. And pick up a

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Speaker 1: bow and shoot it. It's the bow that's going to

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Speaker 1: allow you to be most accurate.

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Speaker 4: What is it.

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Speaker 5: I'm shooting a new Matthew's Lift lightweight forty eight pound draw.

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Speaker 5: The mystical flight of the arrow has never been more

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Speaker 5: accurate with this technology. So that's the bow of my

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Speaker 5: choice these days?

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Speaker 1: Is there an arrow of choice? I don't know a

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Speaker 1: lot about archery, you know.

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Speaker 5: I'm shooting some gold tip arrows. They've been making the

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Speaker 5: ted Nugents Zebra gold tip arrow for years. But I'm

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Speaker 5: also experimenting with a bunch of other arrows. That state

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Speaker 5: of archery and marksmanship, firearms and optics and AMMO is

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Speaker 5: at an all time high. So it's about what you're

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Speaker 5: most comfortable with, what feels good to you, and it

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Speaker 5: is important that that bow or that gun feels right,

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Speaker 5: and that's the one you should shoot, all right?

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Speaker 1: Not your favorite. But if I asked you right now

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Speaker 1: to lay your hands, and it might be on your hip,

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Speaker 1: might be in your pocket, it might be on the

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Speaker 1: table next to you, on the nearest handgun.

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Speaker 5: What would it be. It's the same block model twenty

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Speaker 5: ten millimeters. This on my right hip, along with four

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Speaker 5: magazines on my left hip every day everywhere. Once Ted

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Speaker 5: Nugent shows up, it is no longer a gun free zone.

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Speaker 5: I probably.

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Speaker 1: All right, What about what knife you could lay your

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Speaker 1: hands on the fastest?

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Speaker 5: Right now? I've got my old Victorianox pocket knife in

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Speaker 5: my left pocket, and I got a brand new steel

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Speaker 5: Force a folding knife on my right pocket, and I

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Speaker 5: have a Leatherman tool on my left hip. I'm out

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Speaker 5: of like a hardware store.

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Speaker 1: What meat did you most enjoy that you ate at home?

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Speaker 1: That you killed within the last week.

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Speaker 5: A beautiful sow pig right here on the north bask

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Speaker 5: You River with my bone arrow, and she was just

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Speaker 5: about seventy five eighty pounds and it was the most

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Speaker 5: delicious maxtrap with garlic and pepper and honey. I swear

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Speaker 5: to God, it's the meat of the gods.

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Speaker 1: Now, will you make chops and bacon and all that

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Speaker 1: out of her?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? Yeah? We use it all man, Good for you.

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Speaker 1: What do they say that the ruder to the tutor,

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Speaker 1: that's the way to do it, especially with it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well, yeah, that's called the conservation, the wise use

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Speaker 5: of a natural resource. And I always say the cuter,

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Speaker 5: the cruter the sweeter the meat.

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Speaker 1: Now is that a Is that a culinary reference?

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Speaker 5: I think it is. That's why I like Lamb chops

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Speaker 5: so much.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I like the lamb lollipops. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why that is, but it's yes, with the bone.

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Speaker 5: Gotta have the bone right.

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Speaker 1: It's just like it's a built in handle, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's like a toothbrush you can eat. I absolutely, absolutely

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Speaker 1: love it. All right. Tell me a movie that you

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Speaker 1: have watched in the last month. It may not be

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Speaker 1: the all time greatest or you're what you want to

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Speaker 1: be defined by that. You really enjoyed.

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Speaker 5: Man on Fire with Denzel Washington. I love. I'm a

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Speaker 5: big fan of Revenge.

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Speaker 1: Yes, me too. Vindication very good. Okay, tell me somebody

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Speaker 1: that you are good friends with a celebrity from whatever

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Speaker 1: field that people would be surprised you're friends with because

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Speaker 1: y'all may not share the same political views.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a gentleman who has a band called Rage

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Speaker 5: Against the Machine. His name is Tom Morello, and he

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Speaker 5: plays guitar and occasion with Bruce Springsteen and Bruce Springsteen.

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Speaker 5: Even though he had his foot in his mouth more

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Speaker 5: often than necessary. Bruce and Tom and I were all

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00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: raised on Chuck Berry and Mitch Ryder music, so I

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Speaker 5: will overlook the stupid politics and just jam on killer music.

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Speaker 5: How's that.

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Speaker 1: I love it, and I can appreciate that the art

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Speaker 1: at that moment takes precedence. You know, it's really too

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Speaker 1: bad because Springsteen has written some really good stuff, and

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Speaker 1: I love his hard scrabble story, and I love his

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Speaker 1: truth and how he stayed true to New Jersey in

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Speaker 1: the gritty, you know, New Jersey street. But my goodness,

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Speaker 1: his mind is warped. It's absolutely warped. When's the last

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Speaker 1: time you spoke to President Trump? I know he adores you,

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Speaker 1: just a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 5: I'm congratulating him, and I'm bringing a lot of important

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Speaker 5: issues to the forefront. Some people who have been illegally

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Speaker 5: law fired, like a felon farmer in Michigan who's never

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Speaker 5: been a wrestler or given a speeding ticket, but he's

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Speaker 5: now a felon because he had a bad muffler on

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Speaker 5: a tractor according to the jack boot Thugs of the EPA.

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Speaker 5: So we're seeking a pardon for this good man. Those

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Speaker 5: are the kinds of issues that I fight for every day,

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Speaker 5: and the great Donald Trump, who's a real commander in chief.

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Speaker 5: He is addressing those We got a sheriff pardoned in

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Speaker 5: West Virginia who was lawfared, and there's been so much

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Speaker 5: of that. We have a target rich environment out there.

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Speaker 1: Yep. I think Ed Martin is going to do a

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Speaker 1: great job at that. Uncle Ted, I'm up against a break.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate your time. Ted nugent dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can go to the nuge Vault nuge vault dot com.

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Speaker 1: We love you, brother, I love you.

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Speaker 5: Back to Michael. God speed, buddy,