1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of iHeartRadio, Hey, brain 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Stuff Lo and Vohla bamb Here. It's dinner time with 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: the family, and everyone's eating and chatting any family drama aside. 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: It sounds like a good time, right, But for some, 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: hearing other people's crunching, lip smacking, or gulping can cause 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: anger and anxiety. Miss Aphonia is a condition that often 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: evokes strong negative feelings at a person in response to 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: certain sounds, from other people's eating and drinking, to pen 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: clicking and keyboard tapping to simple breathing, so much so 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: that they have to get away from the source of 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: those sounds. But science is working on it. Back in 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, research published in the journal Current Biology studied 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: the brains of people with missophonia to see how their 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: brains process emotions after hearing certain sounds. Evaluated the data 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: of forty two participants, a twenty with missophonia and twenty 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: two without. People who don't have missophonia can generally tune 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: out everyday sounds that might be a bit bothersome. For 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: people with missophonia, the sensitivity comes from the pattern of 19 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: the sound, though not its volume. For the article, this 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: episode is based on how stuff works. Spoke with study 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: co author doctor Subinder Kumar, now a research assistant professor 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: of neurosurgery at the University of Iowa. He explained that 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: the aversion to certain sounds is quote a sudden realization 24 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: on the part of the person who has missophonia. They 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: just can't tolerate the sound and it just goes on 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: and on over time. While it's not known exactly how 27 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: common the condition is, it can be debilitating for the 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: people who do have it. On average, symptoms start around 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: age twelve, but they can appear as early as age five. 30 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: Trigger sounds often incite rage and anxiety. The sensitivity can 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: get so intense that a person might lash out verbally 32 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: in response to a sound or begin avoiding social situations 33 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: where the sound might occur, especially if they haven't been 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: diagnosed and have trouble explaining why they're reacting so strongly. 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: Imagine a person with missophonia living with a friend, but 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: they don't want to talk because they're bothered by the 37 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: sound of their friends breathing. Kumar said, then it gets 38 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more complicated because they also have this 39 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: feeling that other people are not believing them so they 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: suffer in silence. The researchers studied measurements from functional and 41 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: structural magnetic resonance imaging, that is, fMRI and MRI, observing 42 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: parts of the brain used for processing perceptions and emotions. 43 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: They also monitored physiological data like heart rate and sweat 44 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: responses to measure participants stress levels. Participants heard three kinds 45 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: of sounds, trigger sounds like eating, breathe, or drinking, unpleasant 46 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: sounds like a baby's cry or a person's scream, and 47 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: neutral sounds like a busy cafe or the sound of rain. 48 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: Both groups were asked to rate how annoying the sounds were. 49 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Those with mesophonia rated how much the sounds triggered mesophonic reactions. 50 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Those without it rated how antisocial the sounds would make 51 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: them or how much they would dislike being around the noise. 52 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: The group with mesophonia did experience distress typical of their 53 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: disorder from the trigger sounds, but the unpleasant sounds didn't 54 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: produce the same response. After hearing the trigger sounds, the 55 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: group with misophonia experienced increased heart rates in sweating measured 56 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: through galvanic skin responses, but also called electrodermal activity. Basically, 57 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: when we sweat, our skin becomes more electrically conducive because 58 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: water is conducive, so you can measure even small changes 59 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: in whether or how much we're sweating by attaching electricrodes 60 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: to two fingertips and sending a tiny amount of current 61 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: through them. Increases in heart rate and sweat indicate that 62 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: we're experiencing stress. According to the authors, these responses indicate 63 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: a fight or flight response to the trigger sounds. They 64 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: wrote that people with messophonia tend quote to escape from 65 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: the environment of trigger sounds or experience anxiety and anger 66 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: if unable to escape. The group with missophonia in the 67 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: study also exhibited abnormal salience. Salience is how much we 68 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: notice something. The trigger sounds stood out more for these participants, 69 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: and the parts of their brains involved in processing salience 70 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: were more active than was observed in the other participants. 71 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: In people with missphonia, the trigger sounds activated the anterior 72 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: insular cortex of the brain, a network that directs our 73 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: attention towards stimuli that are, for whatever reason, irrelevant or 74 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: meaningful to us. Why Normally, this part of the brain 75 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: helps us say hear our name, in a noisy room 76 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: because we've learned that that's important, or it might draw 77 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: our attention to the color red or yellow for evolutionary reasons. 78 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: In the participants with missophonia, the trigger sounds also activated 79 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: parts of the brain related to processing and regulating emotion. 80 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: The researchers also asked all of the participants questions about 81 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: body consciousness based on notions of the private body, the 82 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: public body, and body competence. Kumar explained that the private 83 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: body is basically inner perception, like when a person can 84 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: easily sense their heartbeat. The public or outer body references 85 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: your consciousness about presenting yourself to and being perceived by others. 86 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: Body competence refers to how strong, fast, and coordinated you 87 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: feel like you are in comparison to other people. Both 88 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: groups had similar scores in body competence, but Kumar said 89 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: found that people with misceophonia had a higher score on 90 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: the private body and also on the public body, so 91 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: they were definitely perceiving their body internally differently compared to 92 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: people who don't have missophonia. The researcher's data can't tell 93 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: us whether this unusual self perception is a cause of 94 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: or a result of missophonia, but Kumar is optimistic that 95 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: further research can be directed to basically quiet the brain 96 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: structures related to the condition, and he hopes that in 97 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: the meanwhile, the fact that research is being done will 98 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: bring people a bit of comfort. Today's episode is based 99 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: on the article why do some people hate the sound 100 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: of chewing? Scientists might have the answer on how stuffworks 101 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: dot Com, written by Shelley Dancy. 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