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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I just good morning, too, fine gentlemen and everybody listening here.

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Speaker 3: I just realized something about myself that I'm not fond of.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, self awareness on a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It's early in the morning to be like really really

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Speaker 1: self analyzing.

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Speaker 3: So Isaaclohenpron just did his update. Yeah, and there's a

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Speaker 3: three way tie atop the leader board at the Masters,

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Speaker 3: And so I was doing a little I guess, in

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Speaker 3: round betting, in game betting. Yeah, but I went in

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Speaker 3: round betting and I went with Scotty Scheffler to be

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Speaker 3: the leader at the end of the second round. And

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Speaker 3: right before, as I'm hearing Ilo say there's a three

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Speaker 3: way tie atop the leader board, I thought to myself, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that bum, Scottie Scheffler, who bogied, you know, on the

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Speaker 3: second nine to give up the one stroke lead. So

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Speaker 3: there's a three way tie, and you bay lose a

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Speaker 3: little bit with the the way the tiebreaker money goes.

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Speaker 3: And so the point is I'm thinking to myself, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that bum, And I'm like, you know what, this is

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Speaker 3: my scorpio background shining through and through we hold grudges

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Speaker 3: and I'm curious. Do you guys hold betting grudges, because

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Speaker 3: that's not a good thing. You gotta dance with the

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Speaker 3: devil at times. Sometimes the team lets you down, you

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Speaker 3: get back on him again. Sometimes the player lets you down.

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Speaker 3: Same thing. Do you guys hold betting grudges the way

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I absolutely do, And I'll tell you the

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Speaker 1: way I do it is probably opposite of the way

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do. So maybe it's the whole

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Speaker 1: glutton for punishment thing because I played a sport like football,

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Speaker 1: where you're literally slamming your head into people for a living,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, as a kid, I loved it.

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Speaker 1: I was people are like, why would you want to

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Speaker 1: play offensive line? I'm like, they let me hit people

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Speaker 1: on every single play.

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Speaker 2: So so when I have.

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Speaker 1: Like so example, if I had I don't know, Tiger Woods,

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Speaker 1: you know, under seventy three and a half round two

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Speaker 1: in terms of strokes, Well, if it loses, I'm going

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Speaker 1: right back to it tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I'll prove them, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of that of me, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't you know, golf is probably a bad example.

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Speaker 1: It's probably more in you know, whatever props throughout, especially

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Speaker 1: recently the college basketball tournament. Things like that, like no, no,

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Speaker 1: I got a real feel for for clinging rebounds with

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Speaker 1: you come. Yeah, whatever it is, it's just you get

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Speaker 1: stuck a little bit and you just keep going back

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Speaker 1: to the well and.

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Speaker 2: Well I'll show them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm a little bit like that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think stubbornness is not the right way to win

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Speaker 5: in gambling. I think you have to have what was it,

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Speaker 5: my friend?

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Speaker 2: I wish you.

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Speaker 5: If Jason Sidecus is listening, I'm about to use your

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Speaker 5: my favorite quote from your show, Ted Lasso, be a goldfish.

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Speaker 2: You have to be a goldfish when you're gambling.

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Speaker 5: If you're worried about what happened yesterday, you're letting now.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, it's not easy to do.

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Speaker 5: You've got to be like a Jedi ninja with like

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Speaker 5: playing mind tricks on yourself to like eliminate what you

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Speaker 5: just saw. But recency bias, I mean, it's just recncy bias,

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Speaker 5: Like it's really all it is. It's just our bodies,

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Speaker 5: our brains are baked for recency bias. Because and I'm

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Speaker 5: a Scorpio, one of my my rising sign I'm a

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Speaker 5: big into astrology, Brian. My rising sign is a scorpio

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Speaker 5: as well, So I get the vindictive nature that you feel.

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Speaker 2: I understand it.

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Speaker 5: I relate to it, and you just have to figure

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Speaker 5: out a way to compartmentalize it or else you're I

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Speaker 5: always tell this, this is the best piece of advice I.

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Speaker 2: Ever got from one of from a professional gambler.

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Speaker 5: You said, if you let your next your last bet

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Speaker 5: affect your next bet, you're already losing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's right. And that's the thing is, I'll

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Speaker 3: just feel that like, ah, he let me down. But

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Speaker 3: the same is true, and you're right, Jared, it's recency

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Speaker 3: bias because it can work the other way too, where

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Speaker 3: you win a bet because of a team or a

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Speaker 3: player and you're like, you know what, I'm feeling good

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Speaker 3: about him today also, and you must maybe you shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: You shouldn't. It's you gotta be like a cornerback. I

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Speaker 3: like that, be like a goldfish. You gotta be like

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Speaker 3: an NFL cornerback. Short memory. If you get torched, right,

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Speaker 3: you can't let that affect your confidence. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: good stuff. So how about this show? Heyo Tani cleared

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Speaker 3: by the Feds. Holy cow saw this coming, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: So we get the word from the FEDS that they

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Speaker 3: believe the former interpreter that is uh Misuhara, right, our guy,

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Speaker 3: Ipe miss Ujara. He stole more than sixteen million dollars

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Speaker 3: over a two year period from show Heyotan to pay

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Speaker 3: off his gambling debts to an illegal sports book. And

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Speaker 3: so this is all on epay. The FEDS are saying

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Speaker 3: Otani good to go. We went through his phone, We

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Speaker 3: went through his records. Not a text, not an email,

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Speaker 3: not a phone call, nothing discussing gambling. They're saying he

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Speaker 3: got taken for a ride. And this is mss Yuhara,

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Speaker 3: who is charged with bank fraud, who is facing a

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Speaker 3: maximum sentence of thirty years in the clink. Wow, it's

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Speaker 3: like okay, So all I know is that Major League

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Speaker 3: Baseball is like, okay, we're good here, right, Yeah, that

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Speaker 3: sounds great to us. Otani's fine, We're good. Onward and upward.

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Speaker 3: What do you guys make of this? Because to me,

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Speaker 3: Clifton notes version, nothing makes sense, nothing passes the smell test.

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Speaker 3: But if the FEDS are saying Otani's cleared, there's so

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Speaker 3: many skeptics out there like, yeah, okay, all right, at

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Speaker 3: least have to like have the door cracked, entertain the

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Speaker 3: idea that they're right and he was taken for a ride,

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Speaker 3: even though it's gonna be very hard for a lot

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Speaker 3: of people to buy.

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Speaker 1: My my knee jerk reaction is I'm a little bit

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Speaker 1: because I think as you age, as you know, in

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Speaker 1: and you lose some important people in your life. There's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of magic to life, right You never

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Speaker 1: you never really know what you're gonna get. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot like that that line from Forrest Gump.

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Speaker 2: You know, life is like a box of chocolates.

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Speaker 1: So it's possible that we have a superstar baseball player,

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Speaker 1: like the most famous baseball player on the planet, the

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Speaker 1: who's also that could have baseball, but also one of

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Speaker 1: the most naive human beings you've ever heard of, Like

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Speaker 1: you know, this is the hay seed that falls off

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Speaker 1: of the the onion truck.

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Speaker 2: On his way to the Big City.

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Speaker 1: He goes, my goodness, New York City and somebody tries

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Speaker 1: to sell him the Brooklyn Bridge and he goes, well,

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Speaker 1: brook that bridge is off the big and where does

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Speaker 1: it go from and where does it connect to? And

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Speaker 1: it's just like, well, I'll buy it. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: it seems like, how the hell is this possible?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But is it? Is it possible?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's possible that that he got played. And it goes

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Speaker 1: back to something my grandfather used to tell me. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can fool everybody some of the time. You can

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Speaker 1: put fool some of the people all the time, but

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Speaker 1: you can't fool everybody all the time. And this guy,

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Speaker 1: it the Mitsuhara if if that's if that's what he was,

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Speaker 1: he was a con man. Well he fooled everybody for

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Speaker 1: sho Hee Otani, unfortunately is that naive superstar who got

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Speaker 1: taken for a ride. And I guess I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: believe it, but there's a boy there is still a

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Speaker 1: part of me that's like, is this the whole story?

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Speaker 5: Though it's definitely not the whole story. I think there's

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Speaker 5: absolutely more to the story. But when the Feds say that,

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Speaker 5: like the part that and credit bo Benz and our

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Speaker 5: producer kind of planted this seat in my head and

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Speaker 5: I asked a couple people and they kind of confirmed it.

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Speaker 5: The thing that really makes me believe what we're hearing

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Speaker 5: is why would the FEDS be protecting a Japanese citizen

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Speaker 5: who committed a felody? Like that's the part that I

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Speaker 5: can't get you right. So if we're saying, and I've

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Speaker 5: heard the conspiracy theory, oh Otani was the one betting

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Speaker 5: guys nineteen thousand way were placed, this guy was a

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Speaker 5: degenerate gambler. And I've seen it. I've seen degenerate gamblers.

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Speaker 5: I've lived it, I've witnessed it. They will do anything

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Speaker 5: do it. So we have clearly established that this man

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Speaker 5: is a degenerate gambler.

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Speaker 2: Bet MGM has accounts from him on shore.

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Speaker 5: Accounts he's placed on shore, wagers he's placed offshore, He's

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Speaker 5: placed bets everywhere with Bookky's everywhere. So we've established and

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Speaker 5: this guy's a degenerate gambler and he's going to do

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Speaker 5: anything to get his fix. So now, if the conspiracy

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Speaker 5: is true, that means Otani's the one betting, which means

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Speaker 5: nineteen thousand wagers were placed, and there's not one paper trail,

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Speaker 5: not one text. They had Japanese interpreters go through Otani's

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Speaker 5: and Misarhawa's text message exchanges, ninety seven hundred pages of texts,

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Speaker 5: nineteen thousand bets, and Otani didn't slip up once and

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Speaker 5: text this guy what he wanted to.

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Speaker 2: Bet like, that's the part.

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Speaker 5: So again we are getting to a point now where

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Speaker 5: if the conspiracy is true, then not one slip up

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Speaker 5: was made over nineteen thousand bets and ninety seven under

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Speaker 5: pages of text messages. And oh, by the way, the

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Speaker 5: Dodgers are now colluding with the.

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Speaker 2: FED, the US federal government to.

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Speaker 5: Protect a Japanese citizen from a felony obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 5: That is a hard, hard stretch for me to believe

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Speaker 5: that conspiracy theory. Okham's raiser is the simplest answer usually

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Speaker 5: is the correct one. The simplest answer here, this guy

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Speaker 5: Mizaharr was degenerate, and he would do anything, anything, anything,

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Speaker 5: anything to feed the addiction.

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Speaker 2: And he did and eventually he got caught.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean that could be the reality that

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Speaker 3: the thing that this is almost like tennis in your mind,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, where it's like one side

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Speaker 3: dude and the other the old Kenny mad thing.

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Speaker 2: Dude, dude, dude.

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Speaker 3: Right, Like, on one hand, I have a hard time

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Speaker 3: believing Otani just didn't know anything. He just he never

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Speaker 3: checked his bank account for two years. I guess it's possible,

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Speaker 3: but that it's just hard to believe he's just totally

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Speaker 3: in the dark, Like, oh news to be sixteen million dollars,

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Speaker 3: nineteen thousand bets and this I never knew anything. It's

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Speaker 3: hard to believe that. But if you if you think

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Speaker 3: about the other side of this. I'm trying to say this,

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Speaker 3: just because everything doesn't make sense doesn't mean something is

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Speaker 3: radically wrong. You're right, like the FEDS have the wrong conclusion.

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Speaker 3: Just because not everything adds up. It also doesn't add

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Speaker 3: up to me that the book maker, when this was

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Speaker 5: I think you mentioned it. How can someone go on credit?

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure just like he conned show Hey, he

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Speaker 5: The credit situation with these local bookies can be a

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Speaker 5: Again, this is speculation, but that's just how someone with

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Speaker 2: Really good job. They did a good job detailing this.

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Speaker 5: The bank account that the money got transferred to the

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Speaker 5: Basically, So, I honestly think a lot of the details

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Speaker 5: hopefully Showy has a fantastic Geary Homeward last night, which

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Speaker 1: He turned down the terminator before Arnold Schwarzenegger was offered it. Okay,

435
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: that's how big of a superstar that OJ Simpson was.

436
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: He had the sort of clout that James Cameron came

437
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: to him first before he was like let me find Arnold.

438
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: Then of course the trial, the low speed chase, the

439
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: White Bronco, all of the things that follow Oh that

440
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it was one of the most controversial moments

441
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: in American modern society when that verdict came down from

442
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: Judge Edo. This man may be arguably the most the

443
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: most culturally relevant human being to have ever lived from

444
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: birth to death. If you asked anybody in this country

445
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: for about a fifty year span, who's oj Simpson, they

446
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: knew who you were talking about.

447
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is so bittersweet feelings, like I'm not the

448
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 5: Lord and Savior, Like it's not my job to judge

449
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 5: people as they as they die. Obviously, I do think

450
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: he's guilty of that crime back, you know, the double murder.

451
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 5: I think most average people, you know, with brains do.

452
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: The later on life stuff.

453
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 5: Was interesting because he's kind of like, he's kind of

454
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Speaker 5: a Vegas guy, Like that's kind of how he ended

455
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Speaker 5: his life. I have a friend who works at one

456
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 5: of the country clubs here in town. She actually served

457
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Speaker 5: him multiple occasions, and you know, he plays golf every day,

458
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 5: he goes to the local bars. He's a big obviously

459
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 5: football fan, and Bill's fan and supporter. Still he goes

460
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 5: there's a lot of Buffalo support here in town. Naked

461
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 5: City Pizza, and there's some other local buffalo bars. He

462
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 5: used to go to the buffalo bars and like watch

463
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 5: the games. Like he was spotted in like local dive bars.

464
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Speaker 5: He's hanging out at this hotel. He's playing at you know.

465
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: Red Rock Country Club, which is a public golf course.

466
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Speaker 5: So it's kind of like he ended his life I

467
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 5: think in a quiet, peaceful way, and I don't want

468
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 5: to get into the stuff that happened before.

469
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Speaker 2: I agree.

470
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Speaker 5: The ninety four the Bronco Chase. I remember the documentary

471
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Speaker 5: because it was in the time that the Knicks and

472
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 5: the Rockets were in the NBA Finals, and I remember

473
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: them telling the story about people were literally in the

474
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 5: mezzanine of the garden not even watching the Knicks in

475
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 5: the NBA Finals. Wow, to watch the TVs of the

476
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 5: chase like that is how impacted. Like the Knicks in

477
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 5: the finals. It was like fifty years, it was the seventies,

478
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 5: whenever it was, it was a long time. So the

479
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 5: Knicks were in the finals and people were like, Nah,

480
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 5: that's good, I'm not gonna watch the Knicks, Va Sachem

481
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 5: and director, I'm gonna go watch I'm gonna go watch

482
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Speaker 5: you know oj in a in a car chase. Like

483
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Speaker 5: that's how impactful it was culturally to put that in perspective.

484
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 5: But again the later stuff like he he was kind

485
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Speaker 5: of a friend to a lot of people here in town.

486
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Speaker 5: So it's a weird story and we wish his family

487
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,239
Speaker 5: the best, of course, but bittersweet feelings, I would say,

488
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 5: is the word I would use.

489
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a good uh message at the end there, Jared,

490
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: where I think a lot of times, uh, we forget

491
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: about the family. Yeah, right, Like we just completely forget

492
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: about them. And it's it becomes complex real fast because

493
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: it's like I can almost hear the like the retorts,

494
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: you know I can. It's like, oh, so we're talking

495
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: about Ojay's family, what about the Goldman family?

496
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: Sure?

497
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 3: You know what about And it becomes like that and

498
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, you can't say everything at once, you

499
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And that's where it becomes really

500
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: tricky to navigate through. There's another layer here, a lack

501
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: of acknowledgment. We're gonna get to. I've got another layer

502
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: on the oj thing that we'll push back because I

503
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: know us, being the gas bags we are, we're just

504
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: gonna blabber and blabber. The clock is going to be destroyed.

505
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: So cooking up a parlay, you guys, just do your thing.

506
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: Let me throw this at you. The attendees at the

507
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four NFL Draft, only thirteen. Only thirteen player

508
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: is going to be there live in person to get

509
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: the bear hug from Roger Goodell will probably have what

510
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: seems to be the top three picks, at least the

511
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: top three quarterbacks. While I'll be there Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels,

512
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: Drake May I'll be there in the flesh. But just

513
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: down to thirteen. It was seventeen attendees last year in

514
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: Kansas City. It's the lowest marks in twenty twenty one,

515
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 3: and that was right after the pandemic when there were

516
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: thirteen players that year as well. I say this, man,

517
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: you've earned this day. You want to be there in person, Great,

518
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: you want to be there with your family at the

519
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: house party.

520
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 4: Great.

521
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: You want to be fishing with your dad like Joe

522
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: Thomas like a while ago. Great, You've earned this. Whatever

523
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 3: you want to do, knock yourself out is the way

524
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: I see it.

525
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, you're one hundred percent right. And I'll

526
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: take it a step further and say, go get you

527
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: the bag before you get the bag. So a lot

528
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: of these players they don't need the NFL to help

529
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: them market themselves. They're famous on their way out of college.

530
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: They've made a lot of money in nil deals. They

531
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: know how to market themselves already. They probably have a

532
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: marketing manager who has been handling name, image and likeness

533
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: deals for years now, and so as a result of that,

534
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: they get to control their own image. If they're broadcasting

535
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: from home in their own environment, they also get to

536
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: put up different brands.

537
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

538
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm sure they're gonna be wearing T

539
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: shirts and hats and maybe drinking certain beverages. And if

540
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: the NFL wants to videotape them in their in their

541
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: living room, they're gonna have to let them have, you know,

542
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: their energy drink of choice sitting on the coffee table

543
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: or their baseball cap of choice sitting on their head.

544
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Every time, every time we're looking at Drake may or

545
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams or whoever it is that's not gonna be

546
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: attending the draft.

547
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: All right, now we go live to Nashville.

548
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee, where you know, player X is sitting there having

549
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: a sip of a Bang Energy drink or whatever.

550
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

551
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be that these guys

552
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: are going to cash in on some of their brand deals.

553
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: Whereas the NFL this is just a marketing tool, and

554
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: we've all been convinced that it's a super important moment

555
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: for the NFL. We're in actuality, it's not like, yes,

556
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: it's important for the upcoming season, and yes, there's a

557
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: lot of interest in Hey, is my team gonna select

558
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: that quarterback I was hoping that they were going to take.

559
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Is my team going to trade up and get the

560
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: receiver that we're hoping that this team trades up and gets. Yeah,

561
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean those things are important, But in actuality, none

562
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: of these players are doing anything on draft Day. They've

563
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: already finished their college football career. They're months away from

564
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: playing a single snap in the NFL that actually matters.

565
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: So this is just a marketing tool for the league.

566
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: So if the league wants higher attendance at the draft

567
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: wherever they're going to have it, they better start paying

568
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: the players.

569
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 4: Who they want to attend at the draft.

570
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this is a night where these kids

571
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: just should be able to do whatever they want, Like

572
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: if they want to go to the draft, that they

573
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 5: want to sit front row and you know, shake Goodell's

574
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: hand and like let them read the card for crying

575
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 5: out loud. Like I didn't get these kids as much

576
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 5: as much positive reinforcement as possible, because let's be honest,

577
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 5: the second they walk across the stage and give Gidella

578
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: hug and then walk to the other side and start

579
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 5: doing all the media, that's where the job begins. The

580
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: job starts draft night. Like I remember my last night

581
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 5: in college before I graduated. It was I don't even

582
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: really remember it, frankly, so I don't know why. I

583
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 5: just like to you, I don't remember it because it

584
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: was the last night before I left the world and

585
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: started an internship down in Atlantic City at one of

586
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 5: the radioffiliates down there and started my life.

587
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: So that was it.

588
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: Like, give these kids whatever they want, whatever they want

589
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: to do, full full rain, and if they want to

590
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 5: do it at home with Joe Thomas and go fishing,

591
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 5: I think that's totally fine.

592
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: I wonder what he caught that day. Now they think

593
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, get a breakdown of he caught seven crappie.

594
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: You know, some blue gill here there. I thought, Yeah,

595
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: that's a sunfisher.

596
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: Gotta love that.

597
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: It's freaking sunfish out of nowhere. All right, We've got

598
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: rich oron Berger Penn State, all American jer It's Smith

599
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming up next the

600
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: parlay platter. You might say, Man, college hoops is done.

601
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: No NBA today at all. Nothing Masters that's going on.

602
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: Maybe a little UFL to spruce, but I'd be interested.

603
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 2: We'll find out some handicaps from you.

604
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, I'm not deep in that game just yet,

605
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: but all right, you know you'll get there. We'll get

606
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: there with Jared Smith in the parlay platter. Coming up

607
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: next here on Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. It's Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. Shortly after the show, our podcasts will be

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Speaker 3: right after we get off the year. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: do this, check this out late. Okay, Jared, you are

617
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: in full Masters mode here with the parlay. I'm curious

618
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: how you're gonna lay this one out.

619
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

620
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 5: Well again, golf is a bit of a different betting experience.

621
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: I like your approach betting it live. I would have

622
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: been probably betting Scheffler if I was near my computer

623
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: yesterday and not, you know, at one of the local

624
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 5: watering holes enjoying the Masters. I probably would have been

625
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: at my computer hammering Scottie Scheffler live multiple times throughout

626
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 5: the day as it was becoming more and more obvious

627
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: that he was gonna be the leader heading into the weekend.

628
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: But I think the matchups is where I do find value.

629
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 5: I think the outrights are just dark throws. I think

630
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 5: the finishing position bets right, top five, top ten, top twenty,

631
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 5: those can be a struggle to although I love betting

632
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 5: in at bet MGM because they pay out ties in full.

633
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 4: Not all sportsbooks do that.

634
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: But I think the individual round matchups are fascinating to me.

635
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 5: So we've got two of them today, We're gonna pop

636
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 5: them both into parlay and we'll keep you on.

637
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: Your merry way.

638
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: The first one, Shane Lowry against I'm not even out

639
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: of say this guy's name, Akshay Batia. Shane Lowry, in

640
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: my opinion, is like the most undervalue golfer every week.

641
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 5: This guy has no weaknesses in his game, and he's

642
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 5: very overlooked. Maybe it's the fact that he's a little porky,

643
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: maybe it's the fact that he's international. I don't know,

644
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 5: but this guy's price is always undervalued. He's minus won

645
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: twenty today to.

646
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: Be Akshay Batilla in a matchup.

647
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 5: It starts in about, oh about two hours, so you

648
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 5: got two hours to get this bed in, so it'll

649
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 5: put Shane Lowry minus went twenty in first leg.

650
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: Of the parlay, second leg of the parlay. You guys

651
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: might not like this.

652
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: My inner child hates this, but we've got to go

653
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 5: where the money thinks we need to go. We're gonna

654
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 5: fade Tiger Woods today in a matchup against Terrell Hatton.

655
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: And I don't love Terrell Hatton.

656
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 5: The dude is like a volatile you know, water spickett

657
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: waiting to explode on the golf course. But Tiger Woods

658
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 5: had to play twenty three holes yesterday in really tough conditions.

659
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: He survived, his body made it through. He's playing the weekend.

660
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: This is where I think the age and the physical

661
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: limitations he has starts to take its toll now that

662
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 5: we're getting into the thirty six holes and beyond with

663
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 5: his body. So as much as I want to hope

664
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Speaker 5: that he's gonna compete and he's gonna be around this weekend,

665
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 5: I we're gonna see Sunday red Tiger. I think this

666
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 5: is gonna be a tough round for him. Conditions are better,

667
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: but I think Terrell Hatton is going to pull off

668
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 5: the win in their individual round matchup. Terrell hatt and

669
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 5: Shane Lowry both to win their matchups at bet MGM.

670
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 5: The parlay is plus two twenty four. Not our juiciest

671
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: but again Saturday morning, no NBA. Let's just kind of

672
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 5: coast through the weekend here, right, Yeah, yeah, I.

673
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: Like this this weekend.

674
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: I've never really placed any bets on golf before. Okay,

675
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: but but I but I just started with the Masters

676
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: and it's fun. You know, got a couple of wagers.

677
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: It's a It's not as heavy of a sweat as

678
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: it is when you're placing player props in an NBA

679
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: or a college basketball game, you're just kind.

680
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: Of cruising through you I mean your game, Yeah, exactly.

681
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of check the It's almost like you

682
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: check the scores when you remember to, you know, as

683
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: opposed to sitting down and watching a game or you

684
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: know some of those uh no, what we call him

685
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: the no runs first Oh yeah, first pitch, you're like high,

686
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: like just sweating out your.

687
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: Pores the first pitch.

688
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all one, I'm like, oh, we're losing.

689
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: That's over.

690
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

691
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: I like I like that.

692
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 4: I like those those choices. I like the explanation.

693
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: Also, I do like that.

694
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: Listen, some recreational betters, they they want to bet for

695
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 3: who they're rooting for, yes, and that's why I'm getting yeah,

696
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: but I like it, Like that's why a lot of

697
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: people bet overs, Yeah, regardless of the sport. Is like

698
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: I want to root for runs or points or I

699
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: don't want to root for a lack of that, But

700
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: that might be the better side, that might be the

701
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: better angle. And I get that you don't want to

702
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: root against tiger woods. But if you see value. And

703
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: he played twenty three holes and he's got an older body. Now, yeah,

704
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: there's there's value in fading Tiger, even though you don't

705
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: want to root for that.

706
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 5: Here's the under strategy, guys, here's why people like to

707
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 5: bet unders that are really sharp. You're ahead when the

708
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 5: game starts. Yeah, yeah, you're not behind when you're betting

709
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 5: and over you're behind. The second the game starts, you're

710
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: already behind. You need to make up ground the under

711
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: you're ahead.

712
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it makes all the sense in the world. Hey,

713
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: coming up next, this is a great achievement, but it

714
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't be viewed the same way without major success. Oh,

715
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: we got the third round of the Masters coming up

716
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: today and shout out to Tiger Woods made his twenty

717
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: fourth consecutive cut at the Masters. That is the most ever.

718
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: And I just got to think we're in such an

719
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: all or nothing. We have this all or nothing mentality

720
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: in sports, and I don't know, for whatever reason, I thought,

721
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: how would this be viewed if Tiger Woods didn't have

722
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: fifteen majors on his resume?

723
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

724
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: If Tiger Woods, let's say he's got one or two majors. Yeah,

725
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 3: and he just made his twenty fourth consecutive cut at

726
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 3: the Masters, it would be viewed at much more negatively,

727
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: where it's like, Okay, it's great, but where are the

728
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: major wins man? This guy keeps coming up short when

729
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: it really matters. He's good the first two days, but

730
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: not the last two days, right, Like, it's just interesting,

731
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: how if you have major success. No pun intended, right

732
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: with Tiger having fifteen majors, so for him to make

733
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: twenty four consecutive cuts, it's like, Wow, that's amazing. It

734
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: would be viewed totally differently if he had two majors,

735
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: and that's weird to me. I get it, But I

736
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: think sometimes the all or nothing mentality it can get

737
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: us away from the truth. It gets us to like

738
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: the way we we view the Atlanta Braves where they're

739
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: making it, they're winning the division, they're winning all these

740
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: games in the nineties, and it's like, yeah, you won

741
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: one World Series. And I'm not saying that's completely wrong,

742
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: but I think there are times where it gets us

743
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: away from the truth. I'll throw one other example at you,

744
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: John Calipari at Kentucky. A lot of people will look

745
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: at it and say he failed it was disappointing, so

746
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: forth and so on, And there's a leg to stand

747
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: on if you think that. But let's not reduce what

748
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: he did to nothing. To win a championship, to get

749
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: to four final fours, that's something. It's more than nothing.

750
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: So this idea of all or nothing, I think there

751
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: are a lot of times that it gets us away

752
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 3: from being accurate about an athlete, a coach, a team,

753
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: what have you.

754
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's being close to great isn't great?

755
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

756
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: Or close to being a champion? Isn't a champion? You know,

757
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: life gets a little bit easier when we start talking

758
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: about champions because it's a much shorter list. When we

759
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: start talking about you know, the number one on the list,

760
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: and it's a statistical category and there's no arguing that point.

761
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Like who's made the most three pointers ever in the NBA?

762
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: You know, who's the leading point scorer in the NBA.

763
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: Who's got the most passing yards in the NFL, who's

764
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: got the most touchdown throws in the NFL?

765
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Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean?

766
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Speaker 4: Like, ultimately, I think I think as human beings, we

767
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Speaker 4: just work.

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Speaker 1: We just work better with facts, like stationary facts Tiger

769
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: making twenty four cuts is very cool, especially consecutively, especially

770
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: at that tournament.

771
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: It's amazing.

772
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: That's a really challenging place to play, and it speaks

773
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Speaker 1: to his longevity and his reign over this sport. And

774
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: we know all it says about Tiger, but you're absolutely right.

775
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: If it weren't for all of the major victories, especially

776
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Speaker 1: the victories at the Masters, it would be less impressive

777
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: to all of us, and it kind of should be.

778
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: You know.

779
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: Look, you know, when somebody kicks a ball towards a

780
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: goal in soccer, or somebody shoots a three pointer, we

781
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: don't give them credit for almost getting it in the

782
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: goal or almost getting in the hoop. We don't give

783
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: a kicker credit for hitting the upright. You gotta get

784
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: that sucker through.

785
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: We gotta get that, you know what I mean?

786
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Like we need, we need completion of the task and

787
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: being a champion, Like would Steph Curry be heralded as

788
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time if he wasn't

789
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: a three time NBA champion.

790
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: No, we wouldn't.

791
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: He would just be a really amazing three point shooter

792
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: who never was able to help shepherd.

793
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: His team to the Promised Land.

794
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: So it's it's look wins and championships and accomplishments and

795
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: setting goals in achieving goals. It's a part of the

796
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: human condition that we're all striving towards something. And that's

797
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: why sports are amazing because you get to see that

798
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: happen in a realm that many of us hung up.

799
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: You know, the the cleats or the or the basketball

800
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: shoes or.

801
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: You know, maybe not the golf clubs.

802
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: A lot of people do that for leisure, but you

803
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, like, and we get to watch

804
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: people actually do those things for a living and live

805
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: those dreams. And essentially what everybody wanted to do when

806
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: they were a part of a team or playing a

807
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: sport is hoist a trophy or be on the top

808
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: of that platform when the awards ceremony began.

809
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, golf is probably one of my favorite sports to

810
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: watch because of the mental grind that it is. Like,

811
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Speaker 5: it's there's very few sports that are individual Tennis, boxing,

812
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 5: sports like that, right, mostly Olympic sports, and the individual

813
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 5: nature to golf makes it the most unique, I think

814
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: of the American major sports. Right, I think tennis has

815
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 5: kind of lost its luster a little bit. Boxing is

816
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 5: completely falling off the map. You throw UFC in there,

817
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 5: big UFC card today. I think the between the ears

818
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 5: element to golf makes it the hardest. I always say

819
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: the hardest thing to do in sports is to hit

820
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 5: a baseball coming at you ninety miles an hour, ninety five,

821
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: one hundred with a round bat, hitting a round ball.

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Speaker 2: I think the.

823
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Speaker 5: Second hardest thing to do in sports is hit a

824
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: golf ball long and straight consistently.

825
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: But because of the team.

826
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Speaker 5: Element to baseball, it's not all on you, right, Like

827
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: if Mike Trout strikes out, even though that's a bad example,

828
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Speaker 5: showey Atani strikes out, there's you know, Freddy Freeman behind him.

829
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 5: Whereas in golf, if you strike out like that's it,

830
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 5: there's no one behind you.

831
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Speaker 2: You are going home. So I think that's the part

832
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: about Tiger that is the most impressive. The physical stuff.

833
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: Listen, all of these guys can play, they all can shoot,

834
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 5: they all can pot, they all can hit the ball

835
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Speaker 5: three hundred and fifty yards down, you know, down a

836
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 5: narrow fairway. The difference that is what makes Tiger Woods

837
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 5: greater than the rest is how he approached the game. Mentally,

838
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: and I think that is why he will always be

839
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Speaker 5: in every tournament that he's competing in. I just think physically,

840
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 5: over the course of seventy two holes is where he really,

841
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 5: you know, struggles now. So I think the Masters is

842
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 5: the only major that he ever could win again. And listen,

843
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: Jack wanted it what forty six. I think there's a

844
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 5: chance that he wins another Masters. It's a long shot,

845
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 5: and obviously the odds reflect that. But Tiger's mentality is

846
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 5: what makes him great, and that's what frankly the only

847
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 5: reason why he could still compete is because of that mentality.

848
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: Well, I think this.

849
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Speaker 3: I think that when an accomplishment isn't viewed as such,

850
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: that's a problem and it's unfortunate when that happens. So,

851
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: for instance, let's take Tiger Woods. He's made twenty four

852
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: consecutive cuts at the Masters. Everybody would agree that's an accomplishment.

853
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: It's never been done before, no one's ever done that,

854
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: So that's an accomplishment. If Tiger Woods has one or

855
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: two majors, we're not viewing it that way, and to me,

856
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: that's a shame. It's still an accomplishment, but you have

857
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: to have that major success for it to be viewed

858
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: that way. And I get some of that, but sometimes

859
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: it's just unfortunate. I'll give you another example. Look at

860
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: Lebron James. So we always compare to Michael Jordan. We're

861
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: not gonna do a full blown tail to the tape.

862
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: I could do that, but mj was six and zero

863
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: in the finals. Lebron is four and six. Okay, Now

864
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: getting to the finals is an accomplishment. I'm not saying

865
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: that should be the main focus of a conversation, but

866
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: when you go in your first trip to the finals

867
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: and you're dragging Booby Gibson and big Z there and

868
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: you got smacked around against the Spurs, but they've got

869
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: Duncan Janobli Parker, who's unfair.

870
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: It was a.

871
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: Mismatch, But we don't view Lebron getting there as an accomplishment.

872
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: To me, that's a shame. That's not the same as

873
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: hitting the upright or coming close to hitting that three

874
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 3: in it rims out. You took a team to the

875
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: finals all the way through the Eastern Conference when you

876
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: didn't have a stacked roster at all. I just don't

877
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: like when those accomplishments are completely overlooked. And I'm not

878
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: saying we can't be unsatisfied and say, well, you gotta

879
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: close the deal, you gotta win it all. I get that.

880
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: But when there are accomplishments that aren't on the level

881
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: of winning a championship or winning a major or whatever,

882
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 3: I don't think the accomplishment that's a little bit less

883
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: than that should be completely dismissed and we give it

884
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: the Heisman pos and it's all or nothing. Baby, I

885
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: don't want to hear about you coming close. Don't bother

886
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: me with this all I almost got it that. No,

887
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 3: you better freaking get it done or no credit whatsoever.

888
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: I think that mentality is wrong.

889
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree. Look, coming from that NFL well,

890
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: playing six years and being on playoff teams four of them,

891
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: I can speak to you about how difficult it is

892
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: to make it there. We were back to back to

893
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: back playoff teams in New England from the year I

894
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: was drafted into the year I left. One of those years,

895
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: we went all the way to the Super Bowl. After that,

896
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: I went to the Arizona Cardinals and I had a

897
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: five win season, and man, so you get to see

898
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: what it's like when you're at the highest level in

899
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: football and you get to see what it's like when

900
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: you're at the lowest. And then when I moved over

901
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: to the Chargers as a free agent, twenty thirteen was

902
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: a playoff season and twenty fourteen wasn't. And there's a

903
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: stark difference between the way the locker room feels the

904
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: way the team feels, you know, when you're on a winner,

905
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: and when you're on a loser, a team that at

906
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: some point in the season you realize, oh geez, it's

907
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: over for us.

908
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: It's awful, And the reality is the sting.

909
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: It actually stings more when you get closer to the

910
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: championship than you fail, when you're on the doorstep of

911
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: greatness and you stumble just before you get the Super

912
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: Bowl ring. Like the season that I remember the most

913
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: is a twenty eleven season when we almost beat the

914
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: Giants in the Super Bowl.

915
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: It like it's it's awful, you know, And I.

916
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: Think a lot of people can can associate with that

917
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: feeling of like almost getting what they wanted and just

918
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: falling a little bit short. And that's the reason why

919
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: we celebrate champions because they're doing there, they're setting a

920
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: goal in there achieving the goal, and that's what we

921
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: all strive towards. So I understand what you're saying, and

922
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it should be lost on anybody how

923
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: difficult it is to even become a professional golfer, or

924
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: to consistently make cuts on tour, not just that Masters,

925
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: but on tour, it means you're one of the best,

926
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: say two hundred golfers on.

927
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 2: The planet, and that's saying a lot. Or to even

928
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: play in the NFL at any given.

929
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: Moment, you know you're one of the best two thousand

930
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: players on the planet, or in the NBA or what

931
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: have you. Or to bring a team like Lebron James did,

932
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: really on his own volition, all the way to a final.

933
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: It's it's insane, it's an incredible accomplishment. But at the

934
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: same token, like Tom Brady, he was in the AFC

935
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: Championship Game every other year of his career. He played

936
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: twenty two years. I think he went to when it

937
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: was all said and done, eleven conference championship games. I

938
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: would have to have one of you check the math

939
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: on that, but I think that's the number over the.

940
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 4: Course of that career.

941
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: If he didn't win a single one of those conference

942
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: championship games. We would ultimately look at Tom Brady like

943
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: there was something wrong, you know.

944
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: We would don't get me.

945
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: Wrong, like it's incredible getting to a championship game year

946
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: after year after year. But ultimately we would say, okay,

947
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: but why did he never get to a super Bow?

948
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: You know, why why didn't he ever get his team

949
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: over that hump to the super Bowl. It would be confounding,

950
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: it would be strange. We would remember him very differently.

951
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: Everybody would talk about Tom Brady very differently.

952
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that Patriots example the best, Brian, and

953
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think we do.

954
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 5: Like, don't get me wrong, champions should be celebrated, but

955
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 5: there's a lot of other greatness that is involved in

956
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 5: sports that gets brushed aside because it's like, well, they

957
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 5: didn't win, you know. And I think us as like,

958
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 5: you know, the armchair quarterback sitting in our you know,

959
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 5: on our couches in our living rooms.

960
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: It's easy for us to just pooh pooh the people

961
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 2: who didn't win.

962
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 5: But just as much hard work and effort blotzwoot and

963
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 5: tears goes into that the Patriots rich, the Patriots team

964
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: and you weren't on this team, right, You were on

965
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 5: the one that lost to the Giants a second time,

966
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 5: not the first one. That was the undefeated great team, Right,

967
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 5: That wasn't the team you were on, That Patriots team,

968
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 5: the seven team. I think it was That Patriots team

969
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 5: I think is the best example of why greatness that

970
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 5: doesn't win a championship.

971
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Really deserves to be celebrated.

972
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 5: That Patriots team was unfreaking real and they ran into

973
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 5: you know, that's any given Sunday, right, Like, they ran

974
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 5: into the worst matchup possible, and they played their worst.

975
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: Game of the season in their biggest game.

976
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: And so unfortunately they will be pushed aside from the

977
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 5: greatness category because they weren't able to win the super Bowl.

978
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 5: But let's be honest, if a couple of bounces go

979
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 5: their way in that game and they're able to win

980
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 5: a very close game, they are the greatest team of

981
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 5: all time period.

982
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: End of story.

983
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 5: We're done with the discussion that Patriots team's the best

984
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 5: team that's ever played the NFL.

985
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 2: So and they're not. They're never going to be because

986
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: they didn't win the big game.

987
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 5: But that doesn't take away the other what twenty one

988
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 5: games they played throughout the regular season in playoffs.

989
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: Where they were unfreaking real.

990
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 5: I think it was twenty because there's right, there was

991
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 5: a h There wasn't an eighteen game seas or seventeen

992
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 5: game season back then. But you get the point, like

993
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 5: they were unbelievable for four and a half months and

994
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 5: then for three hours they weren't, and now we're gonna

995
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 5: pooh pooh the last four and a half months, like

996
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 5: it's it's a hard pill to swallow.

997
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: That is the agony of defeat, and.

998
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: Right, it's funny timing that agony of defeat was the last.

999
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: Before.

1000
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: You know, it depends how you look at that, rich

1001
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: That could be perfect timing, that could be unfortunate timing.

1002
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 3: You know, we'll get reconnected with Jared Smith, but uh yes,

1003
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: we get what he's saying though, no doubt and in.

1004
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: Reality, Brian, like I I think, I think of my career,

1005
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of ways, like, man, I'm

1006
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: super proud of a lot of the accomplishments along the

1007
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: way what I was able you know, to achieve throughout

1008
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: my college football playing career from an individual standpoint and

1009
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: a team wide standpoint, But the almost are the ones

1010
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: that hurt the most. Like, sure, you know, we went

1011
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: to the Rose Bowl on a one loss season and

1012
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: we faced USC when I was at Penn State, and

1013
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: that January first game didn't work out for us, And

1014
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: boy do I remember that a lot more than the

1015
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: wins at the Outback Bawl and the Alamo Bowl.

1016
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you totally get it.

1017
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those things. Look at the Super

1018
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 3: Bowl matchup real fast. Yeah, let's say the Lions were

1019
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: the team that beat the forty nine ers, made it

1020
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, lost to the Chiefs.

1021
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1022
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: You know, all I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with say, hey,

1023
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 3: you got to close the deal, it's not good enough,

1024
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 3: so forth and so on. But let's not overlook an

1025
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: accomplishment the Lions getting to the NFC Championship Game accomplishment.

1026
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: If the Lions were able to get to the Super

1027
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: Bowl and albeit not win, it still an accomplishment.

1028
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, And so I just.

1029
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: Think it's unfortunate at times we reduce it to you

1030
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 3: never accomplished anything. I just think that part of it

1031
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: is wrong. Hey, we've got rich Orenberger, Penn State All

1032
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: American Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming

1033
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: up next. Was this just a publicity stunt? It's Fox

1034
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It is

1035
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. So Rich,

1036
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: your former teammate, some guy the nickname the Goat, Tom Brady. Huh,

1037
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: he was on Deep Cut with Vic Blens. So the

1038
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: concept here is that a well known person like Tom

1039
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: Brady is just getting a haircut. Okay, he's getting his

1040
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: haircut while they're just talking about sports life, anything that

1041
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: the host, Vic Blens wants to throw at the famous person.

1042
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 3: So Tom Brady goes on this YouTube show and this

1043
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: is what caught the most attention.

1044
00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: We get it.

1045
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: You're one percent retired.

1046
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: Yes, let's say one day. It is a situation, right,

1047
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the forty nine ers. Maybe you know, headed

1048
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: to the playoffs.

1049
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 5: Offense is great, Patriots, somebody, somebody Raiders could be you

1050
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 5: never know, Scott Forbu.

1051
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: Somebody goes down.

1052
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: Would you pick up that phone.

1053
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm not opposed to it. If they would, I don't

1054
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: know if they're.

1055
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 5: Gonna let me if I become an owner and an

1056
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 5: NFL team, But I don't know if I don't know.

1057
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm always going to be in a good shape, always

1058
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: be able to throw the ball.

1059
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 5: So to come in for a little bit like MJ

1060
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 5: coming back, I don't know if they let me, but

1061
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be.

1062
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 4: Opposed to it.

1063
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: Okay. I saw a couple of layers here, Rich, is

1064
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: it's not happening.

1065
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1066
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 3: So Tom Brady is in line to be a minority owner.

1067
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: He's bought into the Raiders organization, right, and so it's

1068
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: pending approval. The NFL goes through this extensive process to say, okay,

1069
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: green light, you're approved for ownership. So Tom Brady would

1070
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: have to sell off his equity. No player can own

1071
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 3: equity in NFL teams, and so once he's approved, which

1072
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: will happen, he would have to sell his equity to

1073
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: then pick up a helmet for like the final six

1074
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: games of the season or whatever. Like it's it's a

1075
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: fun thought. It's just not happening. It You could speak

1076
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: to this for sure, Rich, Maybe this helps you in

1077
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 3: retirement where you just you almost like dangle that carrot

1078
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: in front of you, like, you know, maybe maybe I'm

1079
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: still in good shape, I can still sling it, you know,

1080
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: maybe that helps you a little bit better instead of

1081
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: just facing the reality of I'm probably never going to

1082
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 3: play a game again. So maybe that's what's going on here.

1083
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: But long story short, we're not gonna see Tom Brady

1084
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 3: on an NFL field in a uniform playing ever again.

1085
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: It's not happening unfortunately.

1086
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: Well the only yeah, but I'll throw at you is yeah,

1087
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: but Tom Brady is more important and valuable to this

1088
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: league if he's playing, rather than broadcasting with Fox or

1089
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: any other network, or as an owner, I mean, you

1090
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: can fight I'm owners, you know, I mean, I guess

1091
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: they're not a dime a dozen. You need to have

1092
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: a substantial amount of money, and you also need to

1093
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: have the credibility that will allow the other owners to

1094
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: vote you into their you know, their wolf pack there.

1095
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: But but there are other.

1096
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: People who can own NFL teams who yeah, that that's

1097
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: really that's not special or important. It is, but it

1098
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: isn't you understand what I'm saying. That's not really a

1099
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: public facing role. And as a broadcaster, I mean, who

1100
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: knows what he's going to be as a broadcaster. He

1101
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: could be a great broadcaster or he could be a

1102
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: very poor broadcaster in terms of commentating. Look, Drew Brees

1103
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: was an incredible, a Hall of Fame talent as a quarterback.

1104
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: I think that there are mixed reviews so far on

1105
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: how it's gone in the booth. And you know, even

1106
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: as a studio analyst, you know, so who knows how

1107
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: that's all gonna look when Tom Brady gets there. So

1108
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: he is a more valuable asset to the NFL if

1109
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: he's actually on a playing field, this minority ownership that

1110
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: he's chasing down with the Las Vegas Raiders, if he

1111
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: really really wants the NFL to approve him, he's got

1112
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: to stop dangling that carrot. Yeah, Because if I'm if

1113
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm the NFL, if I'm Roger Goodell and I'm talking

1114
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: to the other owners right now, I'm saying, hey, hey, guys,

1115
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: we're not going to prove Tom Brady to be one

1116
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: of us and sit in this room and essentially lord

1117
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: over the NFL and make decisions alongside of us until

1118
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: we know for sure that the most important well, I

1119
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: guess you should say the most important aspect of his

1120
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: career from a marketing standpoint for our league is officially.

1121
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: Put to bed.

1122
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: Because if there's any chance of a Tom Brady return.

1123
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: We certainly don't want that chance to be fumbled because

1124
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: we allowed him to have a minority ownership, and that's

1125
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: what blocked him from going back to the field and

1126
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: finishing the season. For I don't know, a playoff bound

1127
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers team who lose their quarterback, or a

1128
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: playoff bound Rams team who lost their quarterback, or playoff

1129
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: bound Cowboys team who lost their quarterback. Imagine that storyline.

1130
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: It's December, and you know, heaven forbid, Doc Prescott goes

1131
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: down with an injury. But then all of a sudden,

1132
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: it's Tom Brady's stepping into Dallas and helping them into

1133
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: the playoff.

1134
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: Holy cow, yes, how funny would that be? Where right now?

1135
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: The reality is we've got this extensive process to approve

1136
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: any minority owner, right, so Tom Brady's having to wait

1137
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 3: months and months and months. Let's say he's approved, and

1138
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: then the scenario presents itself that you're talking about where

1139
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: the Cowboys that goes down. They give Brady a phone

1140
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 3: call and Brady's like, I'm in, and the NFL's like, well,

1141
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: you got to sell your equity. All of a sudden, boom,

1142
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 3: it's approved. Yeah, this guy has a lot of money.

1143
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 3: Approved Tom Brady get a helmet, get out there. Yeah. Yeah,

1144
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing though, is that's what's attached to it.

1145
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: Also rich is Caleb Williams, who's going to be the

1146
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: number one overall pick of the Chicago Bears. His dad,

1147
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: Carl was wondering about this last year where it's like, hey,

1148
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: could my son maybe own equity in the NFL team

1149
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: that drafts him? Is that possible? Aaron Rodgers has wondered

1150
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: out loud about the same thing. And the NFL they

1151
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: put a rule in place recently that was just like no, no, no,

1152
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: let's nail that door shut, you know what I mean.

1153
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: Let's lock it, let's bolt it. Let's make sure that

1154
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: these players don't get their hands on our cash. And

1155
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 3: so if you bent the rules and said, okay, our

1156
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: rules are set up where no player is allowed to

1157
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: own equity in NFL teams, Tom Brady does, but we're

1158
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: gonna look the other way so he can come back

1159
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: out and fill in for Brock Purdy who just got hurt,

1160
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: and Brady's out there balling with the forty nine ers.

1161
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 3: If you look the other way on that, best believe

1162
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: there are gonna be a lot of current players who say, hey,

1163
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: why can't I have a stake in a team as well?

1164
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 3: And the NFL clearly does not want that to happen.

1165
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, they absolutely do not, and they don't

1166
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: want to make exceptions. And so I think Tom Brady, honestly,

1167
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: if he is serious about wanting to be an owner

1168
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: and wanting to have a chunk of a team, I think,

1169
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: at least for the twenty twenty four season, he just

1170
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: buried himself like he's there's no way, if I'm Roger Goodell,

1171
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to allow the NFL to approve him owning

1172
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: a portion of any team if there is even a

1173
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: shadow of a doubt, even a chance an ink the

1174
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: mere mention of the fact that he's considering an NFL return,

1175
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: because that is so much more valuable to the league.

1176
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: So again, like it seems like a one off thing, right,

1177
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's on this podcast, he's hanging out, he's

1178
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: getting his hair cut. It's just maybe he was a

1179
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: little flippant with his words. But if I'm if I'm

1180
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, I'm taking those words very seriously. And if

1181
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm any of these other teams, by the way, you know,

1182
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: because there there there were reports and and there were

1183
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: there was acknowledgment that teams have reached out to retired quarterbacks,

1184
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: including Tom Brady, when they have injury situations. Hey, I mean,

1185
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: would you be interested in playing for us? And some

1186
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks have expressed that Yeah, And I seriously

1187
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: considered it, and like so we'll see, we'll see what happens.

1188
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 4: It would he wouldn't be he He referenced Michael Jordan.

1189
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan has been a stalking horse for Tom Brady

1190
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: for years. When Julian Edelman recently spoke about this, another

1191
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: one of my teammates, he said that one time they

1192
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: were in LA training and he said something about Joe

1193
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: Montana and he and you know, and Brady was like,

1194
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm not chasing Joe Montana.

1195
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 4: Right, I'm chasing Jordan.

1196
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1197
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 4: Like that's the way he thought of this.

1198
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: Like I want to be not just the best ever

1199
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: in my sport, I want to be the greatest of

1200
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: all time in all sports. I don't want there to

1201
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: be any question when I'm finished. So like, like MJ

1202
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: came back and he had some success. So let's see,

1203
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: let's see what Brady does. I mean, maybe there is

1204
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: an act too to this career after the retirement.

1205
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: Can you imagine real fast if that scenario plays out

1206
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 3: where let's just say it's the forty nine ers they're

1207
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: gearing up for the playoffs. Brock Purty gets hurt. The

1208
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 3: Niners want Tom Brady, and the league is like, we'd

1209
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 3: love it too, but we approved him for ownership and

1210
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 3: he can't own equity in an NFL team and play

1211
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: at the same time. So sorry, it's gonna be Joshua

1212
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 3: Dobbs instead, Okay, kidding, right, yeah, Brady in said it. Dobbs.

1213
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh Brady, Brady was interested. Yeah, but we can't.

1214
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: Sorry, world, we're gonna go with the pastronaut instead instead

1215
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: of the goat.

1216
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could. We'll see how it plays out, but

1217
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: that that is more realistic than Brady playing again. Unfortunately,

1218
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: that's where we're at. Coach John Caliperi rich he is

1219
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: relocated no longer the coach at Kentucky. He will be

1220
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: taking over at Arkansas as their head coach. How about

1221
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: this curveball. Kentucky hires Mark Pope, who, as you're deep

1222
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: in the college basketball game, BYU's head coach. He was

1223
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: a player won a championship in ninety six at Kentucky,

1224
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 3: and so he takes over as head coach. And what's

1225
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: funny when you read the fine print here in which

1226
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: never won an NCAA tournament game as a coach. Is

1227
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 3: what we're looking at here. I think this is funny, man,

1228
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 3: where all these UK fans and boosters, they can't wait

1229
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: to just kick John Caliperry out the door, get out

1230
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 3: of here, good riddance. Anybody's better than him. I think

1231
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: it would be hilarious. If Kentucky sucks, they're just even

1232
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: worse without Cal now that they have a new coach,

1233
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 3: which is very possible. By the way. Look, I don't

1234
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 3: have any problem with someone saying, hey, we want more

1235
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: these first round exits. It's not good enough. I get that.

1236
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 3: But again, to make a championship in four final fours,

1237
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 3: which cal accomplished at UK, to make that out to

1238
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: be nothing is wrong, and to make it out to

1239
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: be like anybody can do better anybody but Cal, Yeah,

1240
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: good luck with that. Maybe this is Billy Gillespie two

1241
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 3: point zero.

1242
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1243
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, here's what I will say about Party and

1244
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 2: his time at.

1245
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: A at a blue blood program. One of the interesting

1246
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: stories of his early career. There was told to me

1247
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: by another Fox Sports radio host who interviewed him, Steve Hartman,

1248
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: and he goes, you know, we're having this conversation when

1249
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: he first got the job, and he knew what he

1250
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: was getting into immediately when a fan came up to

1251
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: him after I believe it was his maybe it was

1252
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: his first season or his second season. He took the

1253
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: team to the Elite eight, and they go this Kentucky

1254
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: fan goes, hey, coach, I just want to let you know.

1255
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: I want to introduce myself. Didn't want to interrupt you,

1256
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: but I just want to let you know that even

1257
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: though this season was a failure, we're all still counting

1258
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: on you. Like, like, think about how insane that conversation is.

1259
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: If you're a coach who just took a team deep

1260
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: into the tournament, you're like, wait a second, Like what

1261
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: did I just hear? But there are certain programs when

1262
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: you signed the contract, you know what you're getting into.

1263
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: If you're a Lakers head coach, you know every single

1264
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: season it's championship or bust. If you're if you're coaching

1265
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: that organization, that franchise, there's an expectation you know, and

1266
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: anything that's less than that is going to be considered

1267
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: somewhat of a failure.

1268
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 4: Kentucky is one of those programs. And I agree with you.

1269
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: The grass always seems greener on the other side until

1270
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: you get there and all of a sudden you're like, oh, yeah,

1271
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: you know what, we didn't realize we we didn't realize

1272
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: this side of the the fence had groundhogs. That's gonna

1273
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: be a problem. And geez, you know they don't. We

1274
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: don't really have the drainage on this side of the fence,

1275
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: you know that until was over here. But we got

1276
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: a soggy patrick grass over here. And oh man, you know,

1277
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 1: is this lawn even level? I keep I'm walking around

1278
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: and it looks level when you look at it, but

1279
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: there's some potholes here, like you know.

1280
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: So so I agree with you, be careful what you wish.

1281
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: For, because oftentimes when you open your eyes and it's

1282
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: sitting there in front of you, you got a you

1283
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of Mark Pope.

1284
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck, I know it. It's uh.

1285
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 3: And the names that were thrown out there as potential candidates, Oh,

1286
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: could we get Dan Hurley? The back to back championship

1287
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 3: winning head coach at Yukon. How about Billy Donovan, he

1288
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 3: won back to back titles at Florida, the current Chicago

1289
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 3: Bulls head coach. How about Scott Drew he won a

1290
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Speaker 3: title at Baylor. Right, And now all of a sudden,

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01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 3: you get Mark Pope. That's like saying, hey, I'm gonna

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01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 3: take you on a trip, and you're thinking, okay, is it?

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Speaker 2: Are we going to Italy?

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01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 7: Yeah?

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: How about Maui? Who Yeah, no, We're going to Des Moines.

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Speaker 2: That's the biggest little city in the Midwest, talking.

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01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 3: Dan Hurley and yeah, and with Mark freakin Pope, who

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01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 3: hasn't won an NCAA tournament game as a head coach.

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01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 4: Well, here's the look.

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01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: He's a Kentucky grad, played two seasons one national championship. There,

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01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: you know, there's a little bit of recognition in terms

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01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: of coming back into the fold. Here's the other thing

1305
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: basketball is changing. I don't know how important anymore who

1306
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: your coaches. As long as he's an excellent recruiter and

1307
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: as long as he has the donors and the backers

1308
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: of the program behind him. Now he's gonna have to

1309
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: be pretty strong willed, because I imagine a lot of

1310
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: the money men and women behind Kentucky basketball who are

1311
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 1: going to try to influence his decisions in terms of

1312
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: roster building and how he coaches this team are going

1313
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: to be more involved with him than they were involved

1314
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: with cal Parry. And that's probably some of the reason

1315
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: why he got shuffled off the deck and they brought

1316
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: in somebody new. Maybe maybe they view Mark Pope as

1317
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: more controlled. We'll see, but that's a big part of

1318
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: this money is going to lord over college basketball in

1319
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: a way we've never seen before.

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01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'll meet you halfway real fast. Just because

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01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: he hasn't had great success as a coach doesn't mean

1322
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: he can't going forward. That's true, absolutely right. Just because

1323
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: he wasn't the first choice or a big name does

1324
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 3: not mean he can't have big success going forward. That's

1325
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 3: also true. But the other side of the coin is

1326
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 3: a guy named Juwan Howard who was a member of

1327
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: the Fab Five at Michigan. All of a sudden he's

1328
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 3: their head coach. Oh, good vibes, this is gonna be great,

1329
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 3: And it started off well, and then he's slapping guys

1330
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: in the handshake line and getting booted out the door

1331
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 3: because he can't win any game, you know, so the

1332
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 3: former player thing, eh, not destined for greatness either. Here's

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01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: what I would say on that. We got rich oron Berger,

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 3: Penn State, All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 3: Brian No. Coming up next, we got NFL Draft odds, Galore.

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01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: Let's look at a couple of these odds and see

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: if there's some value we can pounce on. It is

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Saturday, hang with us right here.

1339
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1340
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 3: So some NFL draft odds are available on bet MGM,

1341
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 3: and it seems more and more at least the odds

1342
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 3: are indicating looks like Jaden Daniels, the LSU quarterback, might

1343
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 3: be heading toward Washington. Over there, rich might be a

1344
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 3: part of the Commanders where right now, the team to

1345
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 3: draft Jaden Daniels Washington is the the odds on leader

1346
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 3: at minus one sixty five. Next in line is the

1347
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 3: Patriots at plus one seventy five. So much different odds

1348
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: on both of those teams. And this has grown a

1349
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 3: little bit more and more with Daniels probably going to Washington,

1350
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: which hey man I think it's gonna happen. Whether it

1351
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: should or shouldn't happen, whether it's the right move or not,

1352
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: time will tell. But I think that is going to

1353
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: be the case because a lot of teams, and Washington

1354
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: might be one of them, they look at it and

1355
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 3: they say, Hey, best case scenario if we look at

1356
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 3: the ceiling and Jaden Daniels is a dual threat guy

1357
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: and he can get outside the pocket and make a

1358
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: lot more things happen. I think they might view it

1359
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: that way and go with Daniels there. And I think

1360
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 3: also maybe a small little hint if you look at

1361
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota, who they picked up to be the backup

1362
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 3: quarterback stylistically a lot more like Jaden Daniels, where if

1363
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: Daniels went down, you wouldn't have to completely change your offense.

1364
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 3: So that layer of it I think makes sense also

1365
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 3: to point to Daniels might be headed to DC.

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01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I won one hundred percent agree. In fact,

1367
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: when Marcus Mariota was signed, that was my first thought too.

1368
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, they're going to get Daniels

1369
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: because Mariota could talk to him or walk him through

1370
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: the style of offense, not obviously they're going to employ

1371
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: with Daniels now at the NFL level. Here's the thing,

1372
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: and this is true for basically every franchise. A mobile quarterback,

1373
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: a dual threat quarterback is like vitamin C to an offense.

1374
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's considered a cure all. It's not going

1375
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: to make every aspect of the offense better. Obviously, you

1376
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: need to work on your offensive line. Obviously, you need

1377
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: weapons around the offense for your quarterback to connect with.

1378
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 4: A running game, etc. Etc.

1379
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: But a dual threat quarterback can hide a lot of

1380
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: the blemishes of a struggling offense. And there's no question

1381
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: Washington struggled last year and over the past half decade longer,

1382
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: they've been struggling. So I think this would be a

1383
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: smart move. Now, it's a smart move if everything works out.

1384
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: I think the Indianapolis Colts had a similar idea when

1385
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: they drafted Anthony Richardson. Obviously, he was injured and they

1386
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: had a transition to Gardner Minshew and still had something

1387
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: that resembled a pretty successful season in Indy. We'll see

1388
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: if Washington can pull off the same thing with a

1389
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,799
Speaker 1: healthy Jayden Daniels.

1390
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: If that's who they end up drafting.

1391
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, another of the odds that caught our attention. Number

1392
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: one wide receiver to be drafted. Yeah, so Marvin Harrison Junior.

1393
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: He's at minus seven hundred. You have to risk seven

1394
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 3: hundred dollars to win one hundred. He's a huge favorite.

1395
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: Molik Neighbors out of LSU, he's four to one. I

1396
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 3: would not be surprised if someone goes with Neighbors and says,

1397
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 3: this dude is just explosive. I'm so curious which of

1398
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 3: the commonly held beliefs will turn out to be wrong.

1399
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 3: Most people think, you know, MHJ is going top. He

1400
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: might not coming up next. You can't be an Ostrich. Oh,

1401
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 3: good morning to you. Hope your Saturday is off to

1402
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 3: a great start. We got the third round of the

1403
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 3: Masters going on here. You got a favorite golfer, by

1404
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 3: the way, Rich, outside of Tiger okay, tech, Yeah.

1405
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,480
Speaker 2: I guess the lefty Phil Mickelson.

1406
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: I know a lot's been said about Phil over the years,

1407
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: but I just love the fact that he would have

1408
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: been the greatest golfer of this.

1409
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: Generation if there was no such thing as Tiger Woods,

1410
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1411
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, like we were talking about those almost earlier

1412
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: in the show, Brian, you were mentioning the fact that

1413
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't think we give enough credit to a team

1414
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: like the Patriots, who may almost made it to the

1415
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl as many times as they did. And you know,

1416
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: the list goes on. There's so many people in golf

1417
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: who are shuffled way further down the list than say it,

1418
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods or Rory McElroy. You know, their names aren't

1419
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: as well known because you know, they're not as successful

1420
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: as those guys from a wins, tournament wins or major

1421
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: wins standpoint. And Phil Mickelson has obviously had a successful career,

1422
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: winning tournaments, winning majors, but he would have what he

1423
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: would have if there were no Tiger Woods would have

1424
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: been something unbelievable, remarkable, beyond measure.

1425
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 4: But there was a Tiger Woods.

1426
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: So I find him to be such an interesting character

1427
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 1: in golf, and I find myself drawn to the television

1428
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: when he's on TV golfing.

1429
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 3: No, I hear you, man, I hear you. It's funny

1430
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 3: to play those what if games. Yeah, you know what

1431
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,560
Speaker 3: if we never had Tiger Woods, Yeah, Lefty would be

1432
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 3: thought of much differently. Let me throw this at you,

1433
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: because the two main stories this week, it's what's happened

1434
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 3: with Show Hey Otani and it's OJ Simpson passing away.

1435
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 6: And so with.

1436
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: Otani, it turns out the FEDS have said it's his interpreter,

1437
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 3: Ipe Mitch Yuhara, who was stealing sixteen million dollars from

1438
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: his bank account to covery to cover gambling debts and

1439
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 3: all of that sort of thing. So the Feds cleared

1440
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,919
Speaker 3: Show Heyotani, and so I started thinking about these two stories,

1441
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 3: and they're very different stories. With what happened with Otani

1442
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 3: and the gambling situation with his interpreter and OJ Simpson,

1443
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 3: the fame, the notoriety, and then the double murder charge.

1444
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 3: This is what I think, Rich. You tell me if

1445
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: this makes sense to you or not. Yeah, I think

1446
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 3: that you can't just bury your head in the sand

1447
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 3: like an Ostrich when there's information that's readily available, when

1448
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 3: there's proof, and you say, hey, yeah, ye, I don't

1449
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 3: want to bother with the proof. I just believe this

1450
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 3: to be true, right, because I started thinking about when

1451
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 3: the news about OJ passing away. The five part documentary

1452
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 3: Made in America that aired on ESPN was tremendous and

1453
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 3: one of the parts that really stuck out with me

1454
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 3: was one of OJ's childhood friends said on the doc,

1455
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 3: he was like, I just don't believe he could do that.

1456
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't believe that he could murder the mother of

1457
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 3: his children, and how brutal of murder it was. I

1458
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 3: just don't believe it. I grew up with the guy.

1459
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 3: I don't believe it, and I always thought rich I

1460
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 3: was like, look, man, if there's blood and DNA in

1461
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 3: the bronco at Ojay's home of Nicole Brown Simpson of

1462
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 3: Ron Goldman, like, at some point the proof is staring

1463
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 3: at you in the face, can't just bury your head.

1464
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 3: And so I think something similar with Otani, I feel like, man,

1465
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 3: that's hard to believe. He knew nothing at all. This

1466
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 3: dude's making nineteen thousand bets stealing his cash. He's not

1467
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,560
Speaker 3: involved whatsoever, never changed to check his bank account in

1468
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 3: two years. It's just hard to believe. But that's what

1469
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: the Feds have found. That's the proof that they found.

1470
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: They're like, bro, we went through everything. We went through

1471
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: his phone, his messages, his texts, his emails, no mention

1472
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 3: of gambling at all. Nothing, And so when that proof

1473
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 3: is right there, I mean, you could go ash and say, now,

1474
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 3: now just hard to believe, don't believe it, and you

1475
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 3: might be right, But I think it's foolish to just

1476
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 3: dismiss proof if it's readily available.

1477
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so difficult when when you have a story

1478
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: that is so tidy to believe it right, you know

1479
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,480
Speaker 1: what I mean? When when when all the pieces fit perfectly,

1480
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: Because life is much messier than what this ended up being. Like,

1481
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: life is usually way more complex than Hey, you know,

1482
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: this is just the classic story of a guy getting

1483
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 1: taken advantage of. I like, there's there's a part of

1484
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: me that wants to believe that maybe there are back

1485
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: room deals being forged and bonds being forged between Ibi

1486
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: Mitsuhara and Shoheo Tani that Hey, if if anybody's ever

1487
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: gonna take the fall in any of this, it's gonna

1488
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,600
Speaker 1: be you, and then I'll take care of you on

1489
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: the other side, Like.

1490
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1491
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: Like, because that that seems I guess a it's it

1492
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: would be a much more interesting story. It would be

1493
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: horribly damaging to show Heotani if any of that ever

1494
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: ever was.

1495
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 4: Proven to be true.

1496
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: But that's anybody who still is believing that sho Heyo

1497
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: Tani had anything to do with this, that he was

1498
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: the one interested in gambling, and Ipe Mitzuhara, maybe he

1499
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: was also interested in gambling, was just really the bag

1500
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: man for sho Heo Tani. This this is truly a conspiracy,

1501
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: and it could be a conspiracy of just two people.

1502
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: But if that's what you're willing to believe, when all

1503
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: of the facts are staring you in the face, that

1504
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: suggests that no, that's not true, that sho Heo Tani

1505
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: was taken advantage of that you could paint him with

1506
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: the brush of naive, but guilty you can't. And the

1507
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:57,560
Speaker 1: proof is the fact that the federal government would be thrilled,

1508
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: would be thrilled if they had a player or a person,

1509
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: I should say, a person of the esteem of sho

1510
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: Hao Tani going down on charges of you know, gambling

1511
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: outside of the legal realm, and you know, the monies

1512
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: that they could recover from him in damages and all

1513
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: of that stuff. And the US Attorney's Office could pat

1514
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: themselves on the back for taking down another illegal sportsbook

1515
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: and then have show Haotani's name tied to this whole

1516
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: case and etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Because if Sho Hao Tani

1517
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: can go down for you know, illegal gambling, well then.

1518
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 4: So can you. So you better button up.

1519
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: And isn't that the point of law enforcement not only

1520
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: to enforce the law, but when you see somebody pulled

1521
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: over for speeding on the side of the freeway, like

1522
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: you you you go and you look at your speedometer

1523
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: and you're like, ooh, I better check my speed too,

1524
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: Like this would be a landmark case, a slam dunk

1525
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: for the US federal government in terms of battling illegal

1526
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: gambling activity.

1527
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: But they don't have the proof.

1528
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: If they had the proof, show Hey would be going

1529
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: down to And so the more I read, the more

1530
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: I understand, the more information that comes out from the

1531
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: people who have, you know, purportedly did this investigation, the

1532
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: more I believe that show Hey is innocent and he

1533
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: was just taking advantage of by a thief and a

1534
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: degenerate gambler.

1535
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing, man, is with the OJ situation,

1536
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 3: there were so many dumb arguments, and I just don't

1537
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 3: want to do the same thing with a much different

1538
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: case with Otani. Right, So the OJ thing, it was, well,

1539
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: well maybe they planted the evidence, you know, It's like, okay,

1540
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 3: maybe they plan it the glove more conspiracies, right, just conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy.

1541
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, they're planning the you know, the evidence

1542
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 3: of blood in the bronco and OJ's home, Like really,

1543
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 3: that's what does that sound like? It makes sense? Because

1544
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't right, And I don't want to do the

1545
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 3: same thing when it comes to Otani, where it's like, hey,

1546
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 3: in spite of this being what the FEDS have found,

1547
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 3: I mean, do you really believe that, you know, like,

1548
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 3: what if.

1549
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: This and what if that?

1550
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: You start playing that game and I just put on

1551
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 3: the brakes for a second. I'm like, holy cow, Maybe

1552
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 3: they're right, you know what I mean, Like, maybe they

1553
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 3: are accurate with what they're finding. Another aspect of this

1554
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 3: rich is I got a text from one of my

1555
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 3: buddies and he just simply wrote that he said, I

1556
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 3: thought that this might be an unpopular opinion, but it's

1557
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 3: sad that NFL, Twitter and Facebook hasn't acknowledged OJ's death.

1558
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 3: If you look at Twitter, if you look at NFL's

1559
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 3: page on X if that's what you want to call it,

1560
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 3: there's no mention of Oj passing away. Yeah, and my

1561
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: friend wrote, Hey, if he were proven guilty, I get it,

1562
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: but the fact he was acquitted and to don't and

1563
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 3: to not make a post is messed up. They're worried

1564
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 3: about what people will say. Now, this was my response, Rich,

1565
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 3: I'm curious where you come out on this. I just wrote,

1566
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 3: I totally disagree with you that dude was as guilty

1567
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 3: as sin, regardless of what a completely biased jury decided.

1568
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 3: How would you even begin to write a post about

1569
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 3: OJ If you're the NFL, what would you say about

1570
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 3: a double murderer? You have to make sure every single

1571
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 3: word is as carefully crafted as possible. I just don't

1572
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 3: see what the gain is. I don't. I think it's better.

1573
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 3: It's not like we're in the dark and we don't

1574
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 3: know this news. Like we wouldn't know this information if

1575
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 3: you know NFL. Twitter doesn't put it out there, we

1576
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: know it. The NFL is just gonna get hammered with

1577
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 3: whatever they put out there. I don't see what the

1578
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 3: gain is. So I have no problem with the NFL

1579
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 3: not acknowledging it.

1580
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think people lose track like

1581
01:24:53,360 --> 01:25:01,520
Speaker 1: the the NFL. This isn't like some philanthropic organization.

1582
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 4: I mean, they are a business.

1583
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: The NFL is only going to make decisions that help

1584
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: them make more money. How on earth would it be

1585
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: good marketing for the NFL to celebrate the life or

1586
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: the passing. Even though he was a legendary player, and

1587
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: he was an incredible running back and arguably one of

1588
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: the best football players who have ever walked planet Earth,

1589
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: and he played in your league, how does it benefit

1590
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: them in the least bit to acknowledge him in his passing.

1591
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he did during his time playing a

1592
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: lot of good for the sport. After his career as

1593
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: a broadcaster in a movie star, he did a lot

1594
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: of good for the sport. But then inarguably one of

1595
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: the most infamous people of all time with his involvement

1596
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: or I mean, in many people's opinion, his murdering of

1597
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: two people.

1598
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, this doesn't shock me in the

1599
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: least bit. They're a business.

1600
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, I don't know, if a diner

1601
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: used to have Charles Manson as one of their you know,

1602
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: their greatest customers, before you know he he murdered those

1603
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: people with the Manson family, Like what after his passing

1604
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have a Denny's put out a

1605
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 1: tweet saying, Hey, sad to see.

1606
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: Charles Manson died. Like no, it's like I mean, it doesn't.

1607
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: What you do with your life has an impact on

1608
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: whether or not people want to associate with you, And

1609
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: unfortunately for the NFL, they have an affiliation with easily

1610
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: one of the most infamous human beings in American modern history.

1611
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a I compare it to selling

1612
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 3: a used car. Now follow me on this.

1613
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, if you're only.

1614
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 3: Gonna talk about the good stuff, you're gonna be oh,

1615
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 3: great gas mileage. I'll tell you what, man, the tires

1616
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 3: are brand new or whatever. Right Like, yeah, you got

1617
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 3: talking about the exhaust sucks or whatever. Right Like, you're

1618
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 3: just going to be talking about the good things. So

1619
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: NFL and their Twitter page, they're gonna be talking about

1620
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 3: the positive things, like, oh, look at this draft moment

1621
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 3: from a couple of years ago with the draft less

1622
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 3: than two weeks away, or oh, look at the game

1623
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,839
Speaker 3: in Brazil. It's gonna be Jordan Love and the Packers

1624
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 3: against Jalen Hurts and the Eagles. It's like fun, NFL

1625
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: good positive, Yay, right, Like that's what their X page

1626
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 3: is going to be. It's not going to be Hey,

1627
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 3: OJ passes away at age seventy six, most of you

1628
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 3: think he committed a double murder and got away with it. Like,

1629
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 3: that's not going to be highlighting the NFL. That's talking

1630
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 3: about the exhaust being a problem. Yeah, to a potential buyer,

1631
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 3: that just doesn't help them at all. It makes way

1632
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 3: more sense to sidestep.

1633
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: That absolutely absolutely, yeah, I that is it.

1634
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 4: And what is used car sales?

1635
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean like when you really distill it and you

1636
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: boil it down to it's it's trust and how do

1637
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: you earn that trust through good marketing? Because, like you said,

1638
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna stand in front if you're a used car salesman,

1639
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna stand in front of that dent on the fender,

1640
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, while you're while you're showing the car to

1641
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: the perspective buyer, you're gonna be like, hey, listen this thing.

1642
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean, man, the lady who used to own it,

1643
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: it was a grocery getter.

1644
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: She barely took it on any trips, and she brought

1645
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: it right here to the dealership every time it needed

1646
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: to be serviced. In fact, we have the full write

1647
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: up every time she brought it in the only thing

1648
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 1: she's ever done to it, changed the brakes once and

1649
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: just got oil changes. So you're gonna love this ride.

1650
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: And meanwhile you stand in front of a big dent

1651
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: on the bumper. But sometimes you can't avoid the obvious.

1652
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it's a flood recovery vehicle and you

1653
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: can't lie about that stuff, and you just have to

1654
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: sort of put it on the side of the lot

1655
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: and then hope people don't see it. And that's exactly

1656
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: what OJ Simpson is to the NFL's He's that car

1657
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: that you know it has to be on the lot.

1658
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: But if there's any way we could get you to

1659
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: not look in its direction because we know it's not

1660
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: a safe ride and it's not gonna be one that

1661
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 1: really brings positive attention to our car lot over here.

1662
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say we're gonna show you this Mazda we

1663
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: just got rolling in. Yeah.

1664
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, have a look at this.

1665
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1666
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 3: No, that's the way it goes, man, That's that's the

1667
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 3: reason behind it. Why NFL Twitter was like, yeah, we'll

1668
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 3: let other organizations mention this OJ passing away story. We're

1669
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 3: good on that.

1670
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: We're good on that. Well, TMC handle it, Yeah, yeah,

1671
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 2: no doubt.

1672
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 3: Let ESPN handle it. And man, they did like the

1673
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 3: life in times, right, OJ. I don't know, man, it's

1674
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 3: it's a tricky situation to get involved in because it

1675
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 3: can't just be about someone's fame, right. You can't allow

1676
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 3: someone's fame to change how you would commonly think about

1677
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 3: a story, right, and a lot of people that's the case.

1678
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 3: All right, we'll move off this coming up right around

1679
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 3: the corner. There was a golden opportunity for a team

1680
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 3: and they let it slip right through their fingers. Details

1681
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 3: on that on the way. Rich Ornberger with US Penn

1682
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 3: State All American Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No.

1683
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1684
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1685
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 3: The Denver Nuggets, rich Man, golden opportunity last night and

1686
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 3: it went right through their fingers. So Denver was the

1687
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 3: one seed in the West before last night they lost

1688
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 3: to the Spurs and Denver had a twenty three point

1689
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 3: So with that loss they go from a one seed

1690
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 3: to a three seed. Right now, three way tie atop

1691
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 3: the West and that changes everything in terms of who

1692
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 3: they face and then later in the playoffs whether they

1693
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 3: have home court or not, which could be a big deal.

1694
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 3: So that was a big loss, disappointing for the Nuggets

1695
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 3: who had it last night. Let it slip away.

1696
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting what's happened with the NBA. I

1697
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: think the games that are more consequential are played obviously

1698
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 1: at the top of the playoff standings, as opposed to

1699
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: the bottom.

1700
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Like in the NFL.

1701
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: You know, the end of the regular season, we're all

1702
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: watching with baited breath, who's gonna sneak into the wildcard round?

1703
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: And it's so consequential.

1704
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Because we know in the NFL how wildcard teams can

1705
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 1: be sometimes. I mean, you could have wild card winners,

1706
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, Super Bowl winners. It's happened before, and so

1707
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: it's just crazy, I mean, is it is so urgent

1708
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: and important in the NFL the bottom of the playoff bracket.

1709
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 2: Meanwhile in the NBA, it's like it's like the reverse.

1710
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, Denver losing home court advantage, you know,

1711
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: as they obviously are one of those teams who are

1712
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: slated to make a deep run. I mean, that's more

1713
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: important than you know whether or not the Lakers are

1714
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: going to be the the nine seed or the ten seed,

1715
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: or you know, like or like you know whether or

1716
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: not the Clippers are going to be the sixth seed

1717
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:37,520
Speaker 1: or the seven It's it's just the NBA is so backwards.

1718
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Like the regular season, it almost doesn't matter anymore because

1719
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: you have thirty teams participating in the regular season and

1720
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: you allow twenty teams into the postseason, so that means

1721
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 1: only five teams in each conference aren't making the postseason,

1722
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, in some form or fashion. I know that,

1723
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, the opening round now is a play in

1724
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 1: tournament quote unquote, but yeah, I agree with you, Like

1725
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's more it's more important and interesting what's

1726
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 1: happening at the top of the standings in the NBA

1727
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: toward the end of the regular season than what's happening

1728
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: at the bottom. And that is so backward because there

1729
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 1: should be real consequence for teams who are underperforming. Meanwhile

1730
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: they're not. And like the Lakers, who were a playing

1731
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: team last year, they can make it all the way

1732
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,560
Speaker 1: to the Western Conference Final and face a team like

1733
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets and and they don't have to do

1734
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: as much during the regular season to get there.

1735
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, man, I love the play in tournament.

1736
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 2: I don't mind it.

1737
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: I think it's better. I think it's better than the

1738
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: eight teams in that we had before. Yeah, because at

1739
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: least it's it's it's urgent, you know, it's it's it's

1740
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: a one and one and done situation or a two

1741
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 1: and done situation.

1742
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1743
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:57,799
Speaker 3: No, just that part of it too. But it's also

1744
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 3: the battle to try to be in the top six

1745
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 3: to avoid the play in. So if you look out East,

1746
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 3: you've got Orlando, who's the five right now, the Pacers

1747
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 3: are the sixth, and you've got the seventy six ers

1748
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 3: they're in seventh place, right They all have the same record.

1749
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 3: So tomorrow, when every single team is playing in the NBA,

1750
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 3: there's a lot on the line in terms of who

1751
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 3: avoids the play in, who's seeded where, right, all these

1752
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 3: teams are trying to avoid the play in if they can.

1753
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: Because you're in the playoffs, you're not at risk to

1754
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 3: potentially miss the playoffs by not playing your way in.

1755
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 3: I also think this too, man, if you are facing

1756
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 3: the Sixers and Embiid his back and he looks great.

1757
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 3: Embiid looks like he hasn't missed any time whatsoever. And

1758
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 3: they could be either. They could be as much as

1759
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: the five. They could be the sixth. Philly could be

1760
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 3: the seven or eight, depending on how the play in

1761
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 3: shakes out, if they're even in that. If that's your

1762
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 3: first round opponent, imagine if that's the Bucks first round opponent.

1763
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 3: That's the way it's set right now, and you've got

1764
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 3: these injury concerns with Giannis and his calf strain. If

1765
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 3: your first round opponent, if you're Milwaukee, is Philly, that's bad.

1766
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 3: That is not what you want whatsoever.

1767
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the other thing too, is you could

1768
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 1: actually seed higher and potentially face a team you don't

1769
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: want to see in the first round, or or seed

1770
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: lower and it could be you know, favorable to you.

1771
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,640
Speaker 1: So so there's that also in the NBA, you know,

1772
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: because these these playoffs there, they happen over series and

1773
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: so you get multiple bites at the apples. So if

1774
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: you're the better team but some some other team, you know,

1775
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: whether it be because they had you know, a better

1776
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: early season record than you did, or you know, whatever

1777
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 1: the consequence of a of an injury down the stretch

1778
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: of the season. It actually could benefit you to having

1779
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: a lower seed going through the postseason as opposed to

1780
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 1: a higher seed. There's so many problems with the NBA

1781
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,799
Speaker 1: the conclusion of the regular season, but I will agree

1782
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: with you. I thought I would hate the play in.

1783
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't like the idea that ten teams

1784
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: get in. That seems ridiculous. But I do like the

1785
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 1: idea of urgency. I like the idea that you can

1786
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: be a team that has a one shot, you know,

1787
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: one game opportunity, and if you don't win, you leave.

1788
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: You're sorry, you're going home.

1789
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like that level of urgency.

1790
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: So the early portion of the postseason has become more

1791
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: interesting in the NBA, and then you go through a

1792
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: little bit of a valley and then it starts perking

1793
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 1: back up during the conference championship times.

1794
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy when you compare the East and West

1795
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 3: record wise, some of these play in teams where Atlanta

1796
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 3: they're in tenth place right now, they're nine games under

1797
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 3: five hundred and tenth place. In the West, its Golden State,

1798
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 3: who's nine games above five hundred. Yeah, so Golden State's

1799
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 3: eleven games back of Oklahoma City and Atlanta they're twenty

1800
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 3: seven games back of the Celtic. Both those teams are

1801
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 3: in tenth place in their respective conference. It's just wild, man,

1802
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 3: But I can't wait for the PLAYFFS. Its gonna be

1803
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. I'm in full NFL draft mode

1804
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 3: over here, rich and I just I boil it down

1805
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 3: to this and this year. I don't know if this

1806
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 3: is a yearly thing, but especially this year. If you

1807
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 3: look at a lot of these mock drafts very similar,

1808
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 3: you know, not no major just crazy curveballs and a

1809
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 3: lot of the mock drafts and we know that's not

1810
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 3: how it goes in actuality. That's what I'm wondering. What's

1811
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 3: the major curveball where we say, whoa, we didn't see

1812
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: that on any of these mock drafts. Because it happens

1813
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 3: every single year, it's gonna happen this year all so,

1814
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 3: and when you look at the top ten, I am

1815
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 3: just trying to find It's like a daily question for me,

1816
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 3: where is the major curveball? Who's the team that says, yeah,

1817
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 3: we know Marvin Harrison Junior is really good, but we

1818
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 3: just prefer mo leak. Neighbors didn't see that one coming,

1819
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 3: did you, right? Or who's the team like the Raiders.

1820
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 3: You don't hear anything about the Raiders? Do they get

1821
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 3: aggressive and pull Vault into the top three and get

1822
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,879
Speaker 3: a QB. You know what I mean, there's just something

1823
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 3: radical that happens. It's gonna take place.

1824
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 2: I just don't know what it is.

1825
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 4: I completely agree with you.

1826
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: You know it's going to And then, by the way,

1827
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: what often happens is a team all of a sudden,

1828
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: moves up the board, and then we see the chain

1829
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: reaction that creates.

1830
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 4: We see the ripples in the pond.

1831
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, a team jumps ahead, and then

1832
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 1: other general managers and organizations they get antsy and their

1833
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: phones start ringing, and then they start calling other gms

1834
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: and you know, one All it takes is one move

1835
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: that is unconvey unconventional or unexpected, I should say, and

1836
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: then it triggers a chain reaction event where other moves

1837
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 1: happen concordantly as a result.

1838
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 4: So we've seen it.

1839
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes where you know, we've gotten through the first round

1840
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: without a single trade. It's a rarity, but it happens,

1841
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: and we've seen plenty of drafts where in the top

1842
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: ten we have a tremendous amount of movement, and I'm

1843
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 1: curious which way this draft goes.

1844
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 2: I feel like with as much talent at the quarterback position.

1845
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: As we have this season, we're going to see movement,

1846
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 1: Like we're going to see a trade pretty early in

1847
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: this draft. A team is going to be commenced to

1848
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: move off their spot for a more QB needy team.

1849
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 2: But we'll see. I've been wrong before.

1850
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 1: In fact, when it comes to NFL Draft, like all

1851
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: of us, I'm wrong every single year because it's impossible

1852
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: to call it.

1853
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:54,560
Speaker 2: Really is it is.

1854
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 3: I'm looking at some of these odds for certain players.

1855
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 3: Where the team to draft JJ McCarthy, the Michigan quarterback.

1856
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 3: The Vikings are a pretty heavy favorite, right just plus

1857
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 3: one fifteen. It's a little bit better than even money.

1858
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 3: Next in line is the Patriots at plus two seventy five.

1859
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 3: Do you see the Patriots. Let's just play that out

1860
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 3: where you know, let's say they stay at three. Imagine

1861
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 3: if they say, yeah, a lot of people think we're

1862
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 3: gonna take either Jayden Daniels or Drake May, whoever's available.

1863
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:30,080
Speaker 3: We just had our eye on this JJ McCarthy guy.

1864
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 3: The whole time, these Michigan quarterbacks kind of it worked

1865
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 3: out for us before you know, we're going team JJ over.

1866
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 3: I don't see that happening. But again, that could be

1867
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 3: one of the major curve balls that no one has

1868
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 3: talked about.

1869
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: Right right, And and that's another thing is players who

1870
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: their value skyrockets or plummets over the course of the

1871
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 1: month of April. I mean, we've we've seen it a

1872
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: million times. I'll go back to the Baker Mayfield draft.

1873
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: I think I think early in the draft season, you know,

1874
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 1: talking about around February time, you know, it was Sam Darnold.

1875
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 2: Everybody was talking.

1876
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: About Donald and he was really the bell of the

1877
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 1: ball USC quarterback. And then all of a sudden, more

1878
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: and more people were talking about Baker Mayfield. And then

1879
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 1: I remember it was the night before, maybe it was

1880
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: two days before, maybe it.

1881
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 2: Was the morning of.

1882
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: I forget, but Baker Mayfield. All of a sudden, there's

1883
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 1: rumors the Cleveland Browns maybe taking him with the first

1884
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 1: overall pick, and it kind of it felt a little

1885
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: shocking because that's another name that was considered maybe a

1886
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 1: lower value pick that rocketed up the board.

1887
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 4: And was the first one taken, so you just never know.

1888
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 2: You can't call it.

1889
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: And JJ McCarthy might be one of those players who, Yeah,

1890
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I guess if you watch college football this year, you

1891
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 1: know it's Jaden Daniels, it was Caleb Williams, it was

1892
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: Drake May was Bo Nicks all receiving more intention than

1893
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, but ultimately he was the last QB state

1894
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: in college football. Jim Harbaugh had tons of nice things

1895
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 1: to say about him. And here we are, you know,

1896
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: within striking distance of the draft, and there's a lot

1897
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: of speculation he could be an early pick.

1898
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, could be. Also Michael Pennix junior. Yeah, the Washington quarterback.

1899
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 3: The odds are really interesting with him rich where it's

1900
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 3: just a crapshoot. So to give you a glimpse, the

1901
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 3: Raiders are close to four to one like that, and

1902
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 3: that's the odds on leader to get Michael Pennock junior,

1903
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 3: which tells you a lot. There's no heavy favorite. The

1904
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 3: favorite is four to one, the Vikings, the Broncos there

1905
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood of five to one to get Michael

1906
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 3: Penick junior. And then it just goes from there. Mel

1907
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 3: Kiper Junior had Pennick Junior in his latest mock draft

1908
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 3: going to the Rams, who are listed right now at

1909
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,839
Speaker 3: fourteen to one. That'd be a heck of a payday

1910
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 3: right there. It worked out like that. But do you

1911
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 3: think would you even consider because right now it just

1912
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 3: seems like you're throwing a dart. Would you throw a

1913
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 3: dart and say, hey, the Broncos have to get a

1914
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 3: quarterback or the Vikings have to get a quarterback. You're

1915
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 3: getting close to five to one, sayah, why not? But

1916
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 3: I just don't get down with betting like that unless

1917
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 3: I have like a strong feeling this is gonna be

1918
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 3: the case. I don't like just closing my eyes and

1919
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 3: hoping to hit a bull's eye, you know.

1920
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1921
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: Well, and what's interesting about what's interesting about the draft

1922
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: is it's not even like you what happens if all

1923
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are taken before the Vikings can get one,

1924
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like like Sony, any of

1925
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that they liked are off the board before

1926
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: they get to pick, or they tried to trade up

1927
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: but can't because they're filibustered by better trade packages from

1928
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 1: other organizations. That's the other thing like, even if you

1929
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 1: had a great feel for this, even if you knew

1930
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 1: beyond the shadow of a doubt that the intent for

1931
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: an organization was to take a quarterback, it still could

1932
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: work out differently because it is such a crapshoot once

1933
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: teams are on the clock, because any of the other

1934
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: thirty one or I guess in this case, the team's

1935
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: on the clock, so you plus thirty other organizations they're

1936
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: competing for potentially that spot to move up and select

1937
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 1: that player. So yeah, I agree with you. It's tough

1938
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 1: to close your eyes and throw that dart. But if

1939
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 1: there is an organization that feels like they're probably gearing

1940
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 1: up to take a QB, the Broncos have.

1941
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 2: To be one of them.

1942
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 1: The Vikings, maybe they can stave it off one year

1943
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 1: and see how it goes with Darnold if they want

1944
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 1: to go into complete rebuild mode. But they're certainly the

1945
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: most desperate organizations. Most of them are pretty close to

1946
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: the top of the board, and you would assume most

1947
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: of them are going to be selecting a quarterback.

1948
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 3: You know, we were just singing the praises of Adki Matsuyama.

1949
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 3: Three birdies on the first nine right bogie on the

1950
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 3: tenth hole right after we were singing his praises.

1951
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 2: Freaking guy.

1952
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I feel. I do feel like

1953
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 1: I like I low. I feel like you do have

1954
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: a little skin in the game. There's a lot of

1955
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: a lot of matsu Yama.

1956
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 3: Talk, a lot of matsu Yama. Get in the top twenty.

1957
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 3: Come on, buddy, you know if I ever throw out

1958
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 3: a buddy, yeah that there's there's some cash on him

1959
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 3: to get to the top twenty. So he's got what

1960
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 3: eighteen plus eight holes? He got twenty six more holes

1961
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 3: to work with today and tomorrow, so get the top twenty.

1962
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 3: He's got to look at that. We've got Rich Orenberger

1963
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 3: with US Penn State, all American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

1964
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm Brian No coming up next Rapid Fire. We all

1965
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 3: have picks to make and hopefully mine will be right

1966
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 3: and everybody else's would be wrong.

1967
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 2: You know, would you be.

1968
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 4: Okay with that?

1969
01:45:58,120 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 5: Rich?

1970
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what everybody's are, that all of our picks

1971
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 3: are right.

1972
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 2: We'll be right.

1973
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 4: We could be nine and oh this show, Oh my gosh.

1974
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.

1975
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 3: But first choice is three and six me hitting mine.

1976
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 3: You guys just crapping out, you know, like we're at

1977
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 3: the craps table. Second choice would be nine and oh,

1978
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, so this is a good second choice

1979
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 3: right there. We'll get some picks to you right around

1980
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 3: the corner. It is Fox Sports Saturday. Right here on

1981
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports

1982
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 3: Saturday with you here, hey. Shortly after the show, our

1983
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 3: podcast will be going up. If you missed anything on

1984
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,400
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1985
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1986
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1987
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll see

1988
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 3: the show posted right after we get off the year.

1989
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,879
Speaker 3: Props to the crew, Bo benzon Our, trusted producer, Chris Purfett,

1990
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 3: Technical producer Isaac Lowen, Cron Crushing the Updates, Crushing Life,

1991
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 3: Top of the Hour, Up on Game, LaVar Arrington, TJ Hushmanzada, Plexico, Burist.

1992
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 3: They've got you covered all. We got some picks to make.

1993
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 2: Let's do it rapid fire.

1994
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Rich, We'll start with you, man, what are you

1995
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 3: thinking today?

1996
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 1: All right, So I've got a little MLBPGA mash up

1997
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: here for you be no, I'll start in Major League Baseball.

1998
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 1: So last night, for those of you on the West

1999
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: coast who stayed awake or those of you on the

2000
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,759
Speaker 1: East coast who couldn't sleep, there was an eight seven

2001
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 1: thriller in LA. The Padres take the first game of

2002
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 1: the series against the Dodgers.

2003
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 2: Eight to seven ball game there, So Padres, they got

2004
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 2: plus one and a half on the run line.

2005
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 3: I like it.

2006
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 1: The back end of this rotation has been pitching well

2007
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 1: this season. Matt Waldron last time out held up, and

2008
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,640
Speaker 1: the offense coming out of that Cup series into this

2009
01:47:56,720 --> 01:48:00,679
Speaker 1: series against the Dodgers has been generating hits and runs

2010
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 1: and getting on and getting over and getting in. So

2011
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 1: plus one and a half there for the Padres on

2012
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: the run line in Game two of the Dodgers series.

2013
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 1: Moving on to the Masters. Yeah, okay, here we go.

2014
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: The most popular golfer inarguably in all golf is still

2015
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods.

2016
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 2: He's got my attention.

2017
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 1: He's playing about par golf right now through the first

2018
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 1: two rounds seventy three in his opening round seventy two yesterday,

2019
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 1: little bit more of a scatterplot in terms of.

2020
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 2: Bogies and birdies.

2021
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 1: But my first wager here is going to be Tiger

2022
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Woods to birdie any of the par three holes in

2023
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: round three of the Masters. So he only has one

2024
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: birdie on the par three holes at the Masters so

2025
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 1: far this tournament, and it was yesterday and I believe

2026
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 1: it was in the front nine. So I'm going to

2027
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: take Tiger Woods to birdie any par three hole in

2028
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: round three, and then the next one on Tiger as well,

2029
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods to shoot seventy two or under in round three.

2030
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, he's playing par golf, so I feel

2031
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 1: good about a seventy two. And that's where I'm at

2032
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: today with the rapid fire in my front.

2033
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so I'm gonna go with a couple

2034
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 3: of puck selections.

2035
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you might be breaking new ground.

2036
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 3: Austin Matthews is phenomenal this season. He's got a chance

2037
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 3: to get the seventy goals in the season and he's

2038
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 3: been on an absolute heater, scoring goals left and right.

2039
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 3: Scored a couple of goals his last game. I'm gonna

2040
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 3: take him as an anytime goal scorer against the Red

2041
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 3: Wings today at minus one thirty. I'm also gonna go

2042
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 3: college puck on you. We got the championship game here, Rich,

2043
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 3: Give me the Denver Pioneers plus one and a half here, Okay, yeah,

2044
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 3: they just can't lose by two or more. All right,

2045
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 3: you're going. They're going for their tenth championship here. They're

2046
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 3: tied with Michigan for the most ever in college hockey.

2047
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 3: Give me the Denver Pioneers. I was tempted to take

2048
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 3: him on the money line, but I'm gonna take him

2049
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 3: plus one and a half against Boston College.

2050
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:10,679
Speaker 4: Sure, and then.

2051
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm torn.

2052
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 3: I could go back to the well again with Scottie Scheffler,

2053
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:19,799
Speaker 3: or I could go a little UFC three hundred on you, Rich.

2054
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: Oh my, what do you think?

2055
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 3: Do you feel one over the other?

2056
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 2: Give me three hundred. You're breaking new ground all over

2057
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 2: the place.

2058
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

2059
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 2: What a card? Yeah, big one.

2060
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:36,599
Speaker 3: The card is unbelievable. Give me Charles Olivera plus one

2061
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 3: eighty five. Okay, Olivera. He's gonna get it done. This

2062
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 3: dude has won twelve of his last thirteen fights. You

2063
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,759
Speaker 3: get him at almost two to one. That's great value.

2064
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 3: I can't turn that down, So give me a Give

2065
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 3: me Charles here to get this one done.

2066
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 2: Incredible, incredible, We.

2067
01:50:55,720 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 3: Got real fast. Jared had some technical issues. He's going

2068
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 3: with the first inning run. He's going with the ur

2069
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 3: feet in Cardinals d Bax right there. That is something

2070
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on. Love that all rightybody, have

2071
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 3: a good day.

2072
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 2: We'll catch you soon.