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Speaker 1: This He's Talking Cowboys, reading live from the Dallas Cowboys World.

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Speaker 1: He corners at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Bryan Brons, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Stern. Welcome everybody to

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Speaker 1: Talking Tuesday. Of course we are back with lots to

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Speaker 1: talk about after Super Bowl fifty two. So lucky to

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Speaker 1: be joined by these guys today because they are going

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Speaker 1: to bring the heat as we get in to talk

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Speaker 1: about the strong Eagles win. Who would have seen that coming.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's what's stronger, the hate from the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys fan base or the cowbell in our opening. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know. But we have lots to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Was it a catch? We'll answer that is Mickey has

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Speaker 1: all the answers. Absolutely, Oh you do, Yeah, I always do.

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Speaker 1: At the beginning of the end. For the Patriots, well

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Speaker 1: answer that, Taylor, just right off the pants, the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Peterson play calls. Try saying that ten

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Speaker 1: times fast. There you go, And then what it means

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Speaker 1: for the NFC East, and we'll get into Mickey's column

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Speaker 1: about some of these heartbreak, heartbreak kids known as the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and of course Teo Hall of Famer Everson

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Speaker 1: Walls about fortunately not should have been, and then more

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Speaker 1: Dak pushing for Kellen Moore. We saved the Kellen Moore talk?

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Speaker 1: Really for you? Rob? Oh good, I'm glad to be back.

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Speaker 1: Is this an hour show? We got three hours going today?

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Speaker 1: We got three hours? Oh it's been a while. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Cheeto changed his number. I mean that's probably the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour here for me at least. But yes,

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Speaker 1: Eagles won the Super Bowl forty one thirty three, beating

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, denying Tom Brady his six Super Bowl What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts? How are you digesting this on a

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Speaker 1: Tuesday at the end of the NFL football season, Crickets,

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Speaker 1: I think I picked the Eagles to win. You did,

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Speaker 1: except for before the playoffs began. I picked him to

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Speaker 1: get the Super Bowl, and then I changed my mind.

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Speaker 1: He gave him the out, he did, he did, he did?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, but no, we had to pick who was

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Speaker 1: going to win the game. Oh I see, Yeah, Mickey's

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Speaker 1: right though. Prior to the playoffs, for sure, it did.

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Speaker 1: Nobody trusted Nobody trusted Nick Foles, you kidd me. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I trusted him going into the Super Bowl. No.

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Speaker 1: But to me, you know what was surprising about the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl was the Eagles defense or lack of I

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Speaker 1: thought that was going to be if they if they

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Speaker 1: were going to win this game, it was going to

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Speaker 1: be because of their defense. Yeah. You know that Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady they had zero punts. Yeah, he never had to

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Speaker 1: punt during that's incredible. Five hundred and five yards Passing

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Speaker 1: offense wins championships, as they say, right, yea, can you

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Speaker 1: believe that? I don't forget it. Yeah, scoring points points,

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Speaker 1: defense got him. There was the first sack at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game. Was that really the first sack? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It felt like the only only day they made against

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Yeah, pretty much. But then Nick Foles is

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Speaker 1: just so tricky Nick. He's just great tricky. Nick's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good one. Yeah he was. He was incredible. And

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Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna get into Doug Peterson and what

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Speaker 1: he did his coaching job. I mean, the first thing

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Speaker 1: I thought of was Dak friendly is the new term

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Speaker 1: around here? How are we going to make this offense

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Speaker 1: Dak friendly? And the Eagles were about as Foles friendly

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Speaker 1: as you could imagine in that game. They blocked tremendously

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Speaker 1: for him. Who's the left tackle that replaced Bye ty By?

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Speaker 1: Bye Tye did an excellent job. They've got two studs

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Speaker 1: at running back, They've got receivers laying out all over

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Speaker 1: the place to make catches for him. A good group

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Speaker 1: of tight ends too. Yeah, I mean, Foles was really

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Speaker 1: the play calling was excellent. You know, they did a

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Speaker 1: lot of things to help him, and it really, to me,

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Speaker 1: it started in that divisional round against Atlanta when he

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Speaker 1: took off from there. I mean, they did everything around

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Speaker 1: when you look try to apply that to what the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys need to do, it's They're a good template for it.

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Speaker 1: They really are. Corey Clement, did anyone see him having

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Speaker 1: a day? Did anyone predict I guarantee any NFL pregame

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Speaker 1: show they were not saying Corey Clement is today's guy.

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Speaker 1: running back, Huh yeah, undrafted rookie out of Wisconsin. Well,

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Speaker 1: they you know what, to be honest with you, you

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Speaker 1: no catch to me. I agree, you know, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But you know, with Clement though, they've they've used three

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Speaker 1: I was talking about it, the Nick Foles friendly offense.

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Speaker 1: You get a ninety yard rush or fifty seven yard rusher,

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Speaker 1: and receptions oh my gosh, Alan Jeffrey just you know,

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Speaker 1: plastic man stretching out to make the sucazing catches. They

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Speaker 1: And special teams also, I mean they missed four points

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Speaker 1: Would you just rarely see from Stephen Gotskowski. So that's

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Speaker 1: that just shows you though the Super Bowl and you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe the pressure, you know, the pressure gets to these

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Speaker 1: complaining about that logo. Yeah, that it will logo on.

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Speaker 1: They did some work on it before the game. Well

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Speaker 1: they forgot the hash marks. Yeah, is that what it was? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got to put the hash marks down over the logo.

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Speaker 1: We need you back at the super Bowl, Mick to go.

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Speaker 1: I should have been there, George Tomin there now, guys,

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Speaker 1: if you didn't know it was cold last week, if

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Speaker 1: you didn't see anything, it was cold, But that did

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Speaker 1: not stop the game. The game went on. Of those tweets,

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Speaker 1: temperature on their act, it was essentially a humble brag

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Speaker 1: I'm here, right. That's basically what they saw. Much different

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Speaker 1: than the last time they had the Super Bowl there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one. You know, we saw a good game, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl type player. Yeah, that's a good question because

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Speaker 1: think on that statement? Well, they're obviously their backup offensive

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Speaker 1: ruined the offense the second half of the season. A

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Speaker 1: linebacker Tyrann Smith wasn't there. Yeah, middle linebacker. They gave

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Speaker 1: up five hundred yards passing. Yeah, that's Tom Brady, the

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Speaker 1: We've seen and we've seen Matt Ryan a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: always respected what what the if Atlanta Falcons were able

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Speaker 1: got to give the reason why that the foul they

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Speaker 1: keep saying it, the Eagles are here is because of

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Speaker 1: they mean But yeah, it was that. Now that Mickey's right,

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl one wasn't their finest hour. Jim Schwartz

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Speaker 1: You know good, how good was New England their defense, Like,

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Speaker 1: great defensive team though, Mickey, that it really isn't. Well

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Speaker 1: there wasn't one Pro Bowler on it overall, though, Well, hook,

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Speaker 1: give me their guy. Who's their guy that was going

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Speaker 1: to turn the game around defensively? And those tackle Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: good offensively, right, Oh no, absolutely defensively. Yeah. Remember when

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Speaker 1: juts looked decent. Buffalo was Somebody correct me if I'm

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Speaker 1: wrong out there, But I think that this in nineteen

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Speaker 1: a point in the last two minutes of a game. Wow, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's says something about their defense. Yeah, I guess I'd

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Speaker 1: New England and had to patch things together. To your point, Mick,

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Speaker 1: the first month of the season, I think they were

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Speaker 1: given up thirty a game. Yeah, they were bad, they

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Speaker 1: were really. They did a better job as they went on.

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Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, you're right, I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: were overly got their defensive coordinator, head coaching. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean they did a good enough job. Feels good about that.

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting her interesting her. Yeah, they're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: that offensive staff together up there. It sounds like though,

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Speaker 1: which they like. But to your point, Tay about talking

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Speaker 1: about depth, I think one difference that you can draw

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Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about some of the bargain type

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Speaker 1: free agents the Cowboys sign they didn't pan out, and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles signed some guys in the off season that

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Speaker 1: They got aggressive. They made some trades to add some people.

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Speaker 1: Jgi eh Journe again was one, right, But you look

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Speaker 1: at some of the guys they signed for low low money.

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Speaker 1: Alshan Jeffrey was one. I think he's got one years

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Speaker 1: since or Smith Smith Chris long Foles was full signed

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Speaker 1: in the off season, I can't remember. It was because

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson got the job. Yeah, I mean they kind

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Speaker 1: back here in the SWBC Mortgage studio, getting ready to

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Speaker 1: discuss the offseason and what is next. What happens to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys? You know you said something about how the

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Speaker 1: Eagles aren't very respected by NFL fans. I'm assuming you generalize, oh,

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Speaker 1: hate between there's a special kind of hate, more so

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Speaker 1: than Washington, I believe. But do Cowboys fans respect Doug Peterson?

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Speaker 1: That's my question to you guys. The guy I had

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Speaker 1: some some strong plays as far as being the little

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Speaker 1: gutsy doing things that we don't normally see in Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl games. I mean, we saw two quarterbacks go for throws. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't see that too often. I think, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: think I think he had no question about going forward

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, actually, I think Jason Garrett would

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Speaker 1: made that call. See why does everybody say he wouldn't,

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Speaker 1: Because he made those calls the year before when he

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Speaker 1: had Zeke to hand the ball. That's that's where exactly now,

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Speaker 1: the fourth and one in the field of play with

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Speaker 1: timeouts at the end of the game, I think he

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Speaker 1: would have punted that one. And the reason and I

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Speaker 1: think this is where I think that this is where

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Speaker 1: I always like talk about coaches knowing the condition of

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Speaker 1: your team. He knew very well that if he punted

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Speaker 1: the ball to Brady, he was not going to get

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Speaker 1: it back. They couldn't stop him. They couldn't stop him,

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Speaker 1: so his decision there, And this is where I think

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Speaker 1: that maybe Jason Garrett would have been different, that he

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Speaker 1: would have tried to lean on that defense. You know,

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Speaker 1: even though things, hey, we gotta get a stop, we

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Speaker 1: got to do this. I think that's where Garrett might

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Speaker 1: have been different. Right there. Doug Peterson pushed all the

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Speaker 1: chips in at that call because if it doesn't if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work, then ball game. But he also knew

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Speaker 1: that if he punted it, he wasn't going to get

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Speaker 1: it back. That's where that's why I think it was different.

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Speaker 1: They also couldn't stop them offensively, so that's that factored

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Speaker 1: in the decision too. I mean they were doing everything

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Speaker 1: they wanted against the New England defense as well. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Belichick did the same thing. His didn't work. So everybody

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Speaker 1: forgets which one was that. Well, he went for it

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Speaker 1: on fourth down the one time, right, and they didn't.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get it tougher catch for Brady then uh well,

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Speaker 1: but but the play was the same, gamble, it was

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Speaker 1: the same. It just didn't work, didn't work, So we

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Speaker 1: don't we forget that, Belichick basically, and didn't they go

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Speaker 1: for it on fourth down inside the ten yard line

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Speaker 1: when the guy tried the leap. Yeah, and it didn't work. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, so when it works, you're brilliant. When

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work, you took the gambles. It's but it's

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Speaker 1: not just the gambles for me, it's it's the way

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Speaker 1: he really found ways to make Folds comfortable running that. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a great point, and that goes back to,

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Speaker 1: like I mentioned that divisional round. He struggled late in

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Speaker 1: the season, there's no question about it. But I just

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Speaker 1: watching that Falcons game. They made some end game changes

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Speaker 1: to kind of make him more comfortable, and I think

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Speaker 1: they were able to move the ball. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: gave me a point, gave him confidence. Well, they scored

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Speaker 1: thirty eighth the next week against me, they scored fifteen

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Speaker 1: against it. Like I said, I think they found a

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Speaker 1: rhythm in the middle of that game and they carried

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Speaker 1: it over to the next week. And um, so that's

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Speaker 1: you know, that's coaching. But I think one thing that

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Speaker 1: gets lost he is that I don't think this coach

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Speaker 1: it's people were forgetting what this coaching staff did for

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Speaker 1: Dak as a rookie. It was similar. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: found ways to maximize what Dak did well. Sure to

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Speaker 1: wound up having the best season of any quarterback in

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Speaker 1: rookie history. Sure, NFL could they have done some different

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Speaker 1: things this year. That's the question. What could they've done

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Speaker 1: differently when guys went out to help him? And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what they're searching for this office. I heard

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Speaker 1: an interview with a Frank Wright, the offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, and they were kind of discussing, Okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: what was your game plan going against this New England defense,

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Speaker 1: whether they showed up to play or not. You know,

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Speaker 1: this was prior to the game, and he said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I know they're gonna go and double team al Sean, Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: I know they're gonna double team Jgi like Garrett Blunt.

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Speaker 1: He said, that's what I'm going to use all my pieces.

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Speaker 1: Everybody better be able to show up and play on

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl game. And that's what we saw. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's something that I think sometimes people were questionable here

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Speaker 1: when they're watching Cowboys games and they see that. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Beasley is double teamed, Witten is double teamed, but you

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Speaker 1: have Dez Bryant and you have other, you know, running

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Speaker 1: backs that you would expect to do well. And why

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Speaker 1: have we not been able to see that? Sometimes? Did

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Speaker 1: you not see it in twenty sixteen? Was it I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about twenty seventeen. Well, I'm saying, though, I know

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Speaker 1: the different What was the different getting back to the

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Speaker 1: offensive line talk, Yeah, what was the difference? But I

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Speaker 1: mean you saw it the first eight games of the season.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what really helped the Eagles win their

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Speaker 1: game the other night too. Yeah, I know, I mean

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Speaker 1: they clearly were they protected him right. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: a couple of moments where, you know, where Foles had

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Speaker 1: to make some hurried throws, but he was up to

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Speaker 1: the task. But not every throw was a hurried throw. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just you know, I know we talked about Chad's

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Speaker 1: green and a couple of the offensive line guys that

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Speaker 1: we had more expectations for that didn't pan out. But

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Speaker 1: if you had told me Chad's green going into the

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Speaker 1: season as long as he was healthy, what I had

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Speaker 1: seen in twenty sixteen wouldn't have shown me that he

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Speaker 1: would have had the outcome he did this year. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just I think it goes back to if the

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Speaker 1: coaches had to do it over, I don't think they

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Speaker 1: would have put Chad's Green at left guard to start

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Speaker 1: the year. During training training, training camp. I think they

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Speaker 1: would have tried to develop him a little bit more

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Speaker 1: at tackle, let him get a bit more confident there,

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Speaker 1: you know. But that's you know, that's now water under

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Speaker 1: the bridge, and you learn, you say, okay, next time.

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Speaker 1: If we think about moving guys around, we need to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: long term, is this the best thing for the football team.

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Speaker 1: I understand to get your best five guys on your field.

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Speaker 1: I get that. That's that's always a good thing to do.

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Speaker 1: But if you know, if Chaz Green was better playing tackle,

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Speaker 1: he should have been playing tackle the whole time as

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Speaker 1: a backup and not as a starting left guard. And

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Speaker 1: I think factoring into that is I'm not sure they

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Speaker 1: trusted Jonathan Cooper. Yeah, that's fair too, That's very true.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I've already hinted at it Rob your

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Speaker 1: column on Kellen Moore, it hints at you know, it

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Speaker 1: still is not official official. This is all speculation in reports, right,

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore the new quarterback quote coach, eaton lunch here

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Speaker 1: a lot. He's been eating lunch here. Dak kind of

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Speaker 1: sanctioned it. Yeah, yep. Dak at the Super Bowl was

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Speaker 1: asked about Kellen Moore being the new quarterback coach, and

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Speaker 1: he said that he pushed for it. He's very excited

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Speaker 1: for it. But Rob, you know, you wrote an interesting

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Speaker 1: column about the three reasons why this will work. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you got some people hate, especially for Mickey.

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Speaker 1: at Mickey's beard, love it. I love it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean okay. My third point out of the three, I

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Speaker 1: think was probably the most significant, and we've touched on

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Speaker 1: this during the show in recent weeks. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is the soul sounding board coach guy to

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Speaker 1: lean on and the coaching staff for Dak. Prescott Scott

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Speaker 1: Lanahan has his fingerprints all over what DAK does on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis. His development, the game planning part. I

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Speaker 1: think Kellen's a piece of that. And it was interesting

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Speaker 1: Toy you mentioned what Dak said on the News Scrug

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Speaker 1: Show during Super Bowl Week. He said he pushed for

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Speaker 1: Kellen to be hired in that role, and I think

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Speaker 1: that says a lot about what maybe we don't see

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes of what Kellen can add in terms

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Speaker 1: of what he sees on the field, his knowledge of

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Speaker 1: the game. He's definitely experienced. I mean, there's no question

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Speaker 1: about that. But I think they obviously see something in

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Speaker 1: him from and maybe it goes back a couple of

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Speaker 1: was in a quasi coaching role then. Anyway, that was

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Speaker 1: kind of maybe an interview of sorts for him back then.

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Speaker 1: So I think, you know, if he's got the quarterbacks blessing,

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Speaker 1: I think that's something to pay attention to and say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe there's something to this guy. Could they have

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Speaker 1: hired someone with more experience, Sure they could have, but

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Speaker 1: they also could have kept Wade Wilson who's been around

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Speaker 1: for twenty five years, and they didn't do it right.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we'll just see how it shakes out.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think Helen is the is you look

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Speaker 1: at him and say, oh, he's responsible for Dak's development. Now,

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Speaker 1: I think Scott Lanahan is, I think ultimately, and Jason

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Speaker 1: Garrett who's a former quarterback as well. Yes, of course

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Speaker 1: we're abs three reasons ward number one, he's Dak friendly. Two,

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Speaker 1: coaching is in the more family business. And then three

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Speaker 1: Scott Lyndahan's influenced. So yeah, Kellen was always going to

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Speaker 1: be a coach. Now is he guaranteed to be a

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Speaker 1: great head great coach and a head coach? Maybe a

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Speaker 1: head coach one day somewhere We don't know that. Um.

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Speaker 1: But just because you didn't have a bunch of success

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Speaker 1: in the NFL as a quarterback doesn't mean you can't

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Speaker 1: be a great coach. What was Doug Peterson's career? You're

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Speaker 1: like back. I was with him in Green Bay's to

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Speaker 1: drive him around. He drank a lot of beer. There

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Speaker 1: you go, there you go, likes ice cream, Brett Fire's hand.

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Speaker 1: He did him and Brett. But they were best friends,

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Speaker 1: absolutely were. Aaron Rodgers reportedly upset that his quarterback coach

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Speaker 1: wasn't retaining Green Bay it's Alex van Pelt and Pelt

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Speaker 1: that's right. You know, he didn't have a Pro Bowl career. No,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I think we need to relax on.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, why did they hire Kellen Moore? How old

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Speaker 1: is he now? Peterson? No more? No, he's I think

634
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Speaker 1: twenty nine, twenty nine. Yeah, yeah, he's been interning for

635
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: two years. Well he's twenty nine. His birthday July fifth,

636
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: same month as Dak. You can read into that as

637
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: how you want. There you go, you know, the higher

638
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: to me is fine. I mean, the one thing is

639
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: and I think your your point three is the best

640
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: one because it is ultimately you've got all these guys

641
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: in the field that are former quarterbacks, the head coach

642
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: of a former quarterback, the offensive coordinators, former quarterback, and

643
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: now you know, Dak's gonna need somebody that he can

644
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: walk into the room. And I'm sure he's got a

645
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: good relationship with Jason or Lenahan. But if he really,

646
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, is having a problem with something, mean one

647
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: thing to walk into the room. There the coach's office,

648
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, Kellen's office, closed the door and say, hey man,

649
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: this is really what's going on. I need to think,

650
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, and he could be a little bit of

651
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: sounding board too, when you know he's someone can sit.

652
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: You got Kellen Moore now in a meeting saying, hey, listen,

653
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: I talked to the quarterback. This is what's going on here,

654
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, and it kind of it kind of gets

655
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: everybody on the same page. You know, you need somebody

656
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: that you can go in and close the door and say, hey,

657
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm having problems with this, Well you help me with this.

658
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes it's you know, you don't want to

659
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: go to the head coach, you don't want to go

660
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: to the offensive coordinator, or if you've got some complaints, yeah,

661
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: and he's go to him. Yeah, thing he goes to them. Yeah,

662
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: it's exactly right. I mean, it's it's that guy that's

663
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: the it's the go between it. You know, quarterbacks need

664
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Speaker 1: players need guys. Players need somebody that they could walk

665
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: into a room and like I saying, close the door

666
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: and just and have a complaint session and or you

667
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: know say hey man, this is really work and we

668
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: need to continue to do this. Tell Scott that I

669
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: feel you know, I mean, it's just a way of

670
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: doing this. It's just a good way of doing thing.

671
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. I know I talked about this last week, Rob.

672
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: Have you seen Tom first time at all? I have not.

673
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: Episode two came out now and this one's called The

674
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: Mental Game and it talks about, you know, his practicing

675
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and you know, obviously he's lost the

676
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: super Bowl now, but prior to this, he shows, you know,

677
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: every day when he's like driving to work or he's

678
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: been watching film, he'll call Josh McDaniels and just leave

679
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: him voice messages. Hey, this is what I was thinking

680
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: we should do. But hey, I saw this. Did you

681
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: see this? Then they showed Josh calls him back and

682
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, just having x's and o's talk, right,

683
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: But he talks about his relationship with Josh McDaniels and

684
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: how he's come up in the organization, how they've kind

685
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: of grown up together and their relationship and how he's

686
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: always been his friend and they're hard on each other,

687
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: but they understand that. I mean, I don't know Dak

688
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: and Kellen as a friendship. You know, all I've seen

689
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: is what I see on the sidelines. But I saw

690
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: that a lot. And you know who I also saw

691
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: that with last year is Mark Sanchez. Yeah, Mark, Ye,

692
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: this was really good. He credited both those guys for

693
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Speaker 1: really helping. Like Mickey said, sounding board, you know, I

694
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: mean who do you? Could you name who Troy Yankman's

695
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: quarterback coach was. That's I was just gonna ask who's

696
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: the best quarterback coach in the NFL? Did they have

697
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: a quarterback? It's a small staff, was I think they? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah?

698
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: So actually you know who the NORV turner. NORV took

699
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: care of it, but yeah, and he left Robert Alexander

700
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: handled the receivers when Michael was losing his mind. Yeah,

701
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: and then Robert Ford was involved too, But I don't

702
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: think was the tight ends coach. And I'm not sure

703
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: they had a quarterback. Joe Brodsky was. Sampeizy took care

704
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: of the offense. Yeah, you know who the quarter you

705
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: know who the quarterback coach was? Right? It was Jason Garrett.

706
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: He was the third quarter quarterback, right, and he was

707
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: the sounding board. Yeah, And he said that in the

708
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: end in one of our walk offs one time, remember,

709
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: and he was saying that Troy would tell you, yeah, yeah,

710
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: Troy would be and he like, okay, okay, I'll go

711
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: tell yeah I'll tell m Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, like

712
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go tell him, the same thing that Hubbard

713
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: did with Michael. Yeah, yeah, I'll go tell him. And

714
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: he went and walked to the other end of the

715
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: John McVeagh he was a quarterbacks coach, right, I think

716
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: so back in the day day day. Yeah, I know

717
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: they were Ocs, but he was with Yeah, it's if

718
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: there's things you're gonna get upset about, see that one's

719
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: like this is where mcdavie because you have a quarterback

720
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: that's a veteran guy seventeen years right in the league. Yeah,

721
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: and McDaniels all his years. I mean he was in

722
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: New England, his start in New England and he went

723
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: away to Denver, came back. You know, you have that

724
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: relationship if you're a guy all of a sudden and

725
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: you're now you know, you're my friend. You're not you know,

726
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: you don't have a high position, but all of a sudden,

727
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: now you get you still maintain those friendships, you still

728
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: have that trust, you know, And that's I think. I

729
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Kellen Moore, I really really don't.

730
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with the reports of Ben

731
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: bloom being the linebackers coach. Maybe problem is strong that

732
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: problems are not the right roblem's not the right word.

733
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: But you know, what are your thoughts on it? I'll

734
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: tell you what. To me, the most important hire they

735
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: made was if if it's true, have they said Chris

736
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Richard is for sure? Have we come out and said

737
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: that one yet? Yeah? Jerry mentioned yet. Okay, Yes, I

738
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: think that's that's the one that if you eat lunch,

739
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: you're good. I see these guys eating lunch. I'm not

740
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: sure it's a pretty good side. If you've been eating

741
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: lunch here would say that that's that's enough, that's enough

742
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: above someone else. But I've just I think that the

743
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: Chris Richard higher is really good. And I like this

744
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: because I think I do like the fact that he's

745
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: coming in with ideas. You know, he's he's run a

746
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: successful defense and maybe you know with with Marion Elliots

747
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: and nothing against Matt Eberflus, who's likely to go on

748
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: and work in the Colts as their defensive coordinator. But

749
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: I like Chris Richard here. I think that's a really,

750
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: really good hire just for the fact is you've got

751
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: a young secondary and he comes with ideas. He's played

752
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: against a lot of these these these offenses excuse me,

753
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: in the NFC. He understands that, so that could be

754
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: a help. And I think he'll be more than just

755
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: a defensive back. I totally agree, I totally he will

756
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: be the second man in charge. And that's the passing

757
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: the role, that's yeah. And he's been a defensive coordinator,

758
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: so sure knows about linebackers. He can keep an eye on, right,

759
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: He's got help in the secondary with Greg Jackson, right,

760
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: so he can kind of take a bigger picture. I

761
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: think outlook coaching Ben Bloom, I'm okay, yeah, fine, that's

762
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, that's good. Look at look at the big picture. Here,

763
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: look at the one that's going to affect your team

764
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: probably the most. Yeah it's and yeah, you're right. And

765
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: Ben did work with the linebackers for a few years.

766
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: I think before you know he came in with Rob Ryan.

767
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: He's worked with the linebackers, he's worked in other parts

768
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: of the team, and now he's Shawn he's the linebacker coach. Okay,

769
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: that's what people used to say about Peyton Manning, know

770
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: that he was essentially the quarterbacks coach in his own room. Well,

771
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: Tom Moore, Tom Moore who was with him forever the

772
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: Colts will tell you exactly that. He goes, how do

773
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: you coach this guy who goes? I just kind of

774
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: laid things out for him. Yeah, I mean like Winton

775
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: tight ends coach right there? Yeah, what are you going

776
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: to teach him? In? Sixteen years? Were awesome? They were awesome. Yes,

777
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: that's the one that they haven't filled that one. And

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00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't think they're the route that

779
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: they I know. There was some rumor about the coach

780
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: that was with Tennessee. Why am I going brain dead?

781
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: The last name Joseph Oh gosh McDonald no, no, no, no, no,

782
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: I'll think of it here a second. But there's they

783
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: brought in the Michael something Michael. But anyway, yeah, they

784
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: This sounds like this guy, this other coach that they

785
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: brought in. I can't hate when I can't remember names,

786
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: is going on to Tennessee Titans. Yeah, look up quarter,

787
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: look up offensive or offensive coordinator Tennessee Titans. And then

788
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: that it's terrible. I'm playing. I'm not helping yet. I

789
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: played a games out of helmet, I think, and that's

790
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: kind of affected the way I think nine days so Joseph, No,

791
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: it's I can look it up here if my computer

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Speaker 1: wasn't so slow. Offensive coordinator Tennessee Titans is what it is?

793
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: The current one? He was? No Sky was last year.

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00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: He was a coach at San Diego. It's a Titans coach.

795
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Speaker 1: Why can't we find his name? Bad Radio? I'm sorry, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is bad Rad. Harry Rubisky, No, stop it, figure

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Speaker 1: T is a proud member of Cowboys Nation. This is

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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys. Well, if you've been watching the Super Bowl,

843
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: you know that Papa John's Pizza is alive and well

844
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: and they are doing something that y'all better be happy about.

845
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: I think it's called the Duel Pizza. Two layers of pepperoni,

846
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: not us one. Two layers of pepperoni because it's one

847
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: hundred percent pork and beef, So that means you get

848
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: two hundred percent pork and beef on your pepperoni pizza

849
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: and with ingredients like that it's got to be Papa John's.

850
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: Just when the world was getting crazy, it got a

851
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: little crazier. They need that in more pepperoni for the

852
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: parade tomorrow to feed all those people, because I can

853
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: guarantee you they'll be drinking a lot of fluids and

854
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: hopefully eating more than drinking. There you go. Yeah, they'll

855
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: be eating dinner at Pietro's in downtown Philadelphia. Yeah, let's

856
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: watch out for this family salad. There you go. Jason

857
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: Michael's your guy, Jason Michael. I can't I'm sorry, folks,

858
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: and I can't remember name, but they got some names

859
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: in my head. Yeah, Jason Michael interviewed last week for

860
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: this job, and there was thought that he was going

861
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: to get this job. And I'm kind of hearing that

862
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: maybe that Jason Michael is going to take another job.

863
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: So I like Jason's around here. It's very odd they

864
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: didn't keep him. Yeah, all right, Rob's twitter pole, you

865
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: go get us heated up again. This one's playing and simple, Tam,

866
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: And we kind of touched on it earlier in the show.

867
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: Very Eagles themed. How close are the Cowboys to catching

868
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles? Next season. You got

869
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: two options. Are they close? Are they not close? What

870
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: do you think? Well, or they beat him twice in

871
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: twenty sixty, right they did. I've I only lost to

872
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: him twice in Philadelphia in the last eight years. He

873
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: can kind of throw out those last two games in Philly.

874
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: They're kind of Yeah, not a great right rometer for

875
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: either team. I haven't had much on the line in either. Again,

876
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: I think Taylor, I think there's where you look at

877
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: their strength. Well, maybe I think that it's now a

878
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: wash on the offensive line. Probably maybe they have a

879
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: better offensive line their defensive line has been then in

880
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: their offensive linemen or free agents at all. No, Oh

881
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, would it surprise you that the Cowboys and

882
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: the Eagles tied for fifteenth and sacks in the next

883
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: That's that's what. No, that that that is true. That

884
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: is a true And see I'm trying, I'm trying to think.

885
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think though, if you look at position

886
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: for position, their offensive line can neutralize your defensive line,

887
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: you think, and then now you have to think about

888
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: where's are they better? They better at receiver, they're better

889
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: at tight end, they're better at linebacker. See, that's now

890
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of check marks in their boxes for

891
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: secondary secondary. I mean, well, you got the young secondary,

892
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: we'll have what do you think you get better? Yeah?

893
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: That that that to me would be maybe you're starting

894
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: to think about, well, maybe that's a wash. I mean

895
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: they did give up five yards, that is true, and

896
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys did the same thing against the Chargers

897
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: and then change their secondary right, you know, right, I

898
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: think the person that will dictate the most of that

899
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: rob the answer on that is Ezeki Elliott because look, okay,

900
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: you can't say injuries anymore really, because the Eagles just

901
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: showed you that. They showed you that they had good

902
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: enough depth to maintain strong injuries quarterback, left tackle, linebacker.

903
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: They showed you that. But you have to be able

904
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: to rely on Ezekielett that he can be on the

905
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: field for sixteen games for you next season. And of

906
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: course this season was just absolutely exhausting with his trial,

907
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: and you know he showed you forty two days. The documentary,

908
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's out yet. I'll probably be

909
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: watching that next after Tom Verst time. But did actually

910
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: get done I don't know, I don't know to be sure,

911
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: but all I'm saying is that I think Ezekiel Elliott

912
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: makes the biggest difference in that right now because I

913
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: need him to be on the field. I don't need

914
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: ten games suspensions. I think in twenty sixteen you would

915
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: have said Prescott over Wins. Last year, now you say

916
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: wins over Prescott. You know, as far as year to year, Yeah,

917
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean he would see what your three brings. He

918
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: might have won the MVP wins if he'd stayed healthy,

919
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: he might he might have beat out Tom Brady for

920
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: that award. That's how good he was this past season.

921
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: So I'm with you, Tay. I mean, they won nine

922
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: games without their best player for six games, and that's

923
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: not good enough. That's not what they want. Um. But

924
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: you know what, they've built that whole football team around Zeke.

925
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: They really have their offense to help out their defense

926
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: as well, and when he's not on the field, they're

927
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: gonna struggle. Something they did. Bottom line. But the answer

928
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: to the pole fans, I think fans probably don't think

929
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: they're close at all. Yeah, I didn't have a not

930
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: close at all questions. Well, I mean yeah, well yeah,

931
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: whichever what the negative the negative win? Yeah, fifty seven

932
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: percent say they're not close to catching the Eagles season,

933
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: and Mickey brings up the point, I mean, what was

934
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: what was the stat on back to back NFC East

935
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: champions I mean it's still hadn't happened since the Eagles

936
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four. Yeah, every every year is different. Um,

937
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. I think you know, Cowboys have

938
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: to get better in some spots, no question about it.

939
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing like a couple of years ago, you know,

940
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: you were there's at all the answers and sixteen right,

941
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: I feel like we are changing momentum though with the beard.

942
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: If you keep the beard, we might see some different

943
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: things here. I feel positive about a beard through the

944
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: end of twenty eighteen. And let's just see what happens

945
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: with the beard. It won't make it till March. Oh,

946
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: because he's on TV again TV star here. No, it

947
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: just can we convince better with the beard? Itchy and

948
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: hot Okay, it's just kinda cut that drop. I just

949
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: keep listening. I get listening. I keep thinking about the

950
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: roster and your roster, I know, I mean, I mean

951
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: just think that you know safety, I'm just positioned by position,

952
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: you know, how this team would shake would would match

953
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: up with them, I think to me, I mean they

954
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: obviously they where they got better was their depth got better. Yes,

955
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: that's where that's where they get you. And that goes

956
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: back to some of the moves they made. That that's

957
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: where made a lot of moves at work. So who's

958
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: that on coaching or oh that's a front office, front

959
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: office a job, that's front office. Because again, if you're

960
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: adding players, if you're at see they got Nelson Aguilar

961
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: to play well now see and Alison Aguilar didn't play

962
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: well for a few years. That was mean, that was

963
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: the bust. That was the most surprising thing I think

964
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: during their stretch at the end of the season and

965
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: playoffs that he was born. Aguilar was just a guy. Yeah,

966
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: they were down on him. Yeah he was a first

967
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: round pick right, yep, sure was. And and and it's like,

968
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: where's this guy? Actually he was taking ahead of Byron Jones.

969
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I could make a case for

970
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: him being the MVP of that Super Bowl. Yeah, because

971
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: he plays difference in the plays he made. Watch him

972
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: in the game and you're thinking, is that Sean Jackson

973
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: out there? You know he's wearing the same number, and

974
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: he's making these amazing because they took off after the

975
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: first catch, Elshan Jeffrey disappeared and it was him and

976
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: Ernst and the running backs. Yeah, that's would beat them.

977
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: Can we do a little pole on the show really quickly? Yeah?

978
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: Who deserves I mean, now this would probably have been

979
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: better for last week, But who deserves a Super Bowl more?

980
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: The City of Philadelphia or Jason Witten? I think Jason Witch,

981
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think the Cowboys. I don't think

982
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: the City of Philadelphia show and they deserve anything. I

983
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: think two years ago Jason Witten really believed that he

984
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: was going to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I do. And

985
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: I think he talks about those kids and what they

986
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: mean to him and how you know, they give him

987
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: energy and stuff. That was we saw him at the

988
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: end of the season. It's it's gut wrenching to watch him,

989
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, saddle up and not have the opportunity to

990
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: go do this. Yeah, and you know we're talking about

991
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: tight ends. Rob Gronkowski now talking about questioning his retirement

992
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: and things like that. Can a lot of hits elbow,

993
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: knee head, He's serious, they'll be back. It's emotional. I

994
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: mean if I just lost Super Bowl. I'd be like,

995
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: I'm done with football and I hate this that, And yeah,

996
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: he's had a million injuries too for a guy who's

997
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: only twenty nine. The concussion thing probably scared him pretty good.

998
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: The other I'm sure it gave him pause because that

999
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: was the second one. R it's the second one, right.

1000
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: Does he look like he is so much bigger than everybody? Oh? Yeah,

1001
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: I think it reminded me of great athletes like the

1002
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: little Thale with the Giants and the little Eputians. Yeah,

1003
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: it was such travels. I was so bigger than everybody

1004
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: else out there. Travel You know that him and Nick

1005
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: Foles played together at Arizona. Yeah? Really, asting, I mean

1006
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: you have a just breeding athletes for Scooby, that guy,

1007
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: Where do you end up? Scooby was with the Browns.

1008
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: Oh and now I think he's on the street now,

1009
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, Scooby, right life, will hut you fast? Yea,

1010
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: that's you fast? Yeah? No, I mean Robert Gronkowski, he

1011
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: is hell of an athlete. But it's just always crazy

1012
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: to see after these games these guys, what they go through,

1013
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: what they're dealing with. But the tight end position almost

1014
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: was revolutionized with him just re upped, you know, because

1015
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: it was kind of getting a little stagnant and then

1016
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: everyone was like, okay, tight end. He was like, he

1017
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: is like Tony Gonzalez two point zero in terms of

1018
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: just this freak pass catching tight end. But now the

1019
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: argument is Witten. Yeah, let's see it does everything. That's

1020
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: where Malcolm Jenkins came out. Did you see what he said?

1021
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: He says, when you play against Grinkowski, it's like playing

1022
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: against the combination of Witten and then our guy at

1023
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City. He says, it's like a combo of those guys.

1024
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: He says, imagine putting those guys together and forming one

1025
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: tight end. That's what you get having to deal with

1026
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: that guy puzz he's big enough. He Do you see

1027
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: the block he through scrimmage? Oh, that one where it's

1028
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: just domination. Yeah I saw that. Yeah. Huge. Yeah. Glad

1029
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: you brought up Travis Kelsey. You know, it's not often

1030
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: that you see two brothers playing in the NFL. We

1031
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: we see it here on the same team. But yeah,

1032
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, I think you said Kelsey might be the

1033
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 1: best center. Now I'll tell you what he's Yeah, he's

1034
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: him and Travis Frederick you know Mac in Atlanta. They've

1035
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: They've got some quality centers in this league. But I'll

1036
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: tell you what he's he's fun to watch. I don't

1037
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: know if he's he's not the strongest guy. But the leverage,

1038
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: the mobility, the second level stuff he's he's always on

1039
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: his feet. That's what you gotta have. That is incredible. Yes, Now,

1040
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: someone who is both an Eagle and a cowboy. Terrell

1041
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: Owns is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame officially

1042
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: class of twenty eighteen, joining names like Randy Moster, Kramer,

1043
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: Braner Lacker. What are your thoughts? Ryan Dawkins too, Bran Dawkins.

1044
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: That one doesn't set well with me. TiO oh Dawkins,

1045
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: Oh Dawkins. He's putting his hands up to you want

1046
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: to go into it, like Dawkins over Woodie, Are Dawkins

1047
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: overs Everson Walls about the safety position? But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1048
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: the safety position. John Lynch would probably say something like

1049
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: that too. Yeah. I mean, okay, he had thirty seven

1050
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: career interceptions. Can I can I speak on just my experience,

1051
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: but you saw him, so no, I saw him and

1052
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: I was with him in Philadelphia and Brian Dawkins has

1053
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: the qualities of Darren Woodson. He does. He might he

1054
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: is not the player of Darren Woodson, but he has

1055
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: the qualities the game and a lot to him. He

1056
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 1: has a great teammate. He was passionate about the game.

1057
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: You know, he played it the right way. You know,

1058
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: I understand where Cowboy fans have their you know, with

1059
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: Everson Everson walls and stuff. I get that Jerry Kramer

1060
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: was going to get in. I just felt that was

1061
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: going to happen. If you talk to the voters, they

1062
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: were they were hopeful, but they kind of understood what

1063
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: was up they were up against. But I do know

1064
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: this about Brian Dawkins. If if there's a guy, he

1065
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: is the Darren Woodson of the Philadelphiagles. That's how much

1066
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: he meant to them. And so I I when he

1067
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: again my experience just being with him, I respect that

1068
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: the way he is, but you know, I would like

1069
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: to have seene. I was surprised two wide receivers got in.

1070
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, me too, you know, Oh,

1071
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: I was almost feeling which is kind of an odd

1072
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: It's a different perspective that I have here. You know,

1073
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: in the past two years. I will give credit to

1074
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame and what they've done

1075
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: digitally showcasing the moments that happened. I think everyone saw

1076
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: Randy Moss his reaction and showing I guarantee you most

1077
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: NFL fans three four years ago would not have known

1078
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: about the knock and the call the way that they've

1079
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: broadcasted that now, and you know a lot of it

1080
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: we all learned with Jerry Jones, but you know the

1081
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: way that they've done that now. And then what to

1082
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: did last year following his denial the second year in

1083
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: a row as a finalist, it almost seems like, are

1084
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: you just scared of him on social media? Are you

1085
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: scared because you're gonna get this backlash? Well, I mean,

1086
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: I know his numbers are there. He wouldn't be there

1087
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: if they weren't, but he thir round pick TESSI, Chad Nuga.

1088
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you look at his numbers, and he

1089
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: should be in off of his numbers. Yeah, and then

1090
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: it goes back to the polarizing attitude and relationship with teammates.

1091
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: But to me, you know, and we covered to and

1092
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: the thing about him that is so fascinating is like, yeah,

1093
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: there's people don't like him, but there are teammates that

1094
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: swear by him and love him, you know, and your head.

1095
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: You know, the fellow receivers that he played with, you know,

1096
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: I think he tried to you know, mentor some of

1097
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: those young guys. Um, am I wrong? I mean, he's

1098
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: an incinerator. That's fair to have that opinion. That's a

1099
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: lot of people have that opinion. I'm just saying based

1100
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: off of his numbers. And it's hard to say he

1101
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: was had off the field problems because he was never

1102
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: in trouble with the law. And there's guys that have

1103
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: gotten in the Hall of Fame that we're in trouble

1104
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: with the law. So he's he I don't know, he's

1105
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: a fascinating person to me. I've I've never been able

1106
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: to quite figure it out. But I saw that the

1107
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: two receivers going in. It just seemed like, OK, are

1108
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: you guys scared of his reaction? Again, I don't think

1109
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: that had anything to do with it. I don't know.

1110
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: It's I think they felt like he waited long long enough.

1111
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: It was the third time, and because you look numbers

1112
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: in Banta, but his numbers say he could have been

1113
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: he could have been. Yeah, so maybe two years ye

1114
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: look up with Bill Polian had to say about him. Oh, No,

1115
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: he's not for everybody, that's for sure. He didn't leave

1116
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: here on great terms. By the way, Oh, because he

1117
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: incinerated the locker room last year. Once he got his money,

1118
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: then all bets were off. I had a coach tell

1119
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: me he is one of the most single, most dividers

1120
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: that he's ever had in the locker room. That he

1121
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: divides players that he doesn't you know. And what happens

1122
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: is he doesn't he doesn't do it outwardly. Yeah, but

1123
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: what he does is he takes the players that are

1124
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: on the bottom of the rosters. Have you ever noticed, Yeah,

1125
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: have you ever noticed? His friends tend to be the

1126
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: guys who are a player fifty fifty one and fifty two,

1127
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: empowers them and then he kind of like kind of

1128
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: gets them into his corner and stuff, and then he

1129
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: goes against I had a head coach. It was a

1130
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: long conversation about him. He said, one of the most

1131
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: talented guys he'd ever been around. But he says, he

1132
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: will divide your locker room in a heartbeat. Yeah, he's

1133
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: the high blood pressure of locker rooms. Have you ever

1134
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: you guys have any good stories about him in this

1135
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: locker room, any interesting things. I mean, every every day

1136
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: it was just interesting. I mean every day it was

1137
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, the media is trying to bait him to say,

1138
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, an explosive headline, and a lot of times

1139
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: they got it, you know, because if they were losing

1140
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: and he wasn't getting his numbers, I mean, he'd let

1141
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: you hear about it. The strangest, the strangest press conference

1142
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: ever was the Parcels overdose press conference when t O

1143
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: supposedly overdosed. That was one of the craziest days of

1144
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: my life. And he had twenty five million reasons now,

1145
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: yeah do it. Yeah, his age, his handler, that whole thing.

1146
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: Parcels just got up and quit Parcels. I'm not asking,

1147
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to be interrogated for no reason.

1148
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: And he got up. It just left off. This left

1149
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: that a press conference when he came back from his

1150
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: house and reported to it was an off day or yeah,

1151
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: and he showed up and they called asy was called

1152
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: a press conference with Bill and build. Bill did not

1153
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: want to go out. No, if he knew exactly what

1154
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: he was walking into but he got just interrogated about

1155
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: TiO situation for about ten minutes and finally just had

1156
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: enough and walked out. Well you could talk to Mickey. Yeah,

1157
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: that was something else man, And well did you watch

1158
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: the Two Bills? I did? It was very good. It

1159
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: was good. Wasn't he messed over Bill Belichick like he

1160
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: did a lot of other people. I forgot the end

1161
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: of the Jets thing? Oh, did you have the Cleveland one? Yeah,

1162
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: he didn't tell Belichick could have been the coach head

1163
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: coach to Cleveland, I mean of the New York Giants, right, right,

1164
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: and tell him did the same thing to Zim right,

1165
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: absolutely didn't tell Zim that he wasn't going to come back,

1166
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: and he waited and waited, and Zim took the job

1167
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: at Atlanta. Right, Otherwise he might have still been here

1168
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: real quick to I was hoping. I had some hope

1169
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: for Everson Walls to get in. You know, you're not

1170
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: a finalist for twenty years, and maybe then you're a finalists, like, well,

1171
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: then maybe they're ready to take the step and put

1172
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: him in there. Yeah, the Jerry Kramer one had Yeah,

1173
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: he'd waited longer. Yeah, but Kramer was a Senior Committee.

1174
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: Everson was still Eli your Bowl. So now he goes

1175
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: over to the Senior going to wait five years before

1176
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: you become a senior candidate. We'll see what happens. And well,

1177
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining us today on this Talking Tuesday.

1178
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: It's always fun to talk about Super Bowl, but not

1179
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: so fun when it's not us. So you know, there's

1180
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: always next year, the famous saying, so there's always next

1181
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: week when we'll be back. Join us next Talking Tuesday.

1182
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, Rob Mickey, Brian Kent. We'll be back then.

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