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Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons run their record till five hundred one one,
Speaker 1: thanks to going on the road and winning twenty two
Speaker 1: to six. They shook off a very disappointing loss. They
Speaker 1: switched kickers out. They brought a new kicker in. He
Speaker 1: was five or five and a pat so there's a
Speaker 1: great chance he's gonna be Special Teams Player of the Week.
Speaker 1: But might be the guy from Dallas who kicked the
Speaker 1: sixty four yarder to get it in the overtime and
Speaker 1: then the game winning field goals, so he might. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Romo, I thought you might get it, but
Speaker 1: probably not. Aubrey. Aubrey is probably gonna get it. But
Speaker 1: the Falcons, you, oh yo, an outstanding running game, and
Speaker 1: they hounded McCarthy. They got after five sacks in the
Speaker 1: first half, six total for the game.
Speaker 2: They picked him off twice, forced the fumble once.
Speaker 1: So anytime you can press hound the quarterback six times,
Speaker 1: pressured him numerous other times, and turned him over three times,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna win that game. What did you like
Speaker 1: about what you saw from the Falcons?
Speaker 3: Listen, but I like from the Falcons.
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna talk about the running game and
Speaker 4: what they did offensively the beginning of the game. I
Speaker 4: really really enjoyed Pinnis in the chemistry him and Kyle
Speaker 4: Pitts have gotten going.
Speaker 3: It was a mismatch.
Speaker 4: They put Kyle Pitts in different positions in different places
Speaker 4: where the mismatches were. Had him out wide at ride receiver,
Speaker 4: had him in the slot, they had him at the
Speaker 4: tight end position.
Speaker 3: But defensively is where they made their hey.
Speaker 4: Obviously they did what they did on offense with the
Speaker 4: running game, but obviously it was somewhat I don't want
Speaker 4: to say if a snooze fest hunk, But they got
Speaker 4: in the rear zone, but they couldn't score most of
Speaker 4: the time. They couldn't score most of the time. Field
Speaker 4: goals to get you beat. But the fact that they
Speaker 4: played defensive well and the god damn Viking couldn't get
Speaker 4: anything going offensively, let alone getting the red zone two
Speaker 4: score points.
Speaker 3: They only kicked field goals as well. That's why they won.
Speaker 3: That's where they won the game in y yes six points.
Speaker 2: But Atlanta's defense was outstanding. We haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Look, Atlanta's been really really bad oho over the last
Speaker 1: five or six years at rushing the quarterback, and they
Speaker 1: made a concerted effort. They drafted early, they got Walker,
Speaker 1: they traded back in the first round, got Piers, they
Speaker 1: got brought in Leonard Floyd, who was with Raheem when
Speaker 1: he was at the Rams, so therefore he was very
Speaker 1: familiar with Leonard Floyd. And they attacked the quarterback. In
Speaker 1: order for you to win, your defense has to pressure
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You cannot leave him back there and let
Speaker 1: him have all day to pack the football. The Falcons
Speaker 1: did an outstanding job and this is what they needed.
Speaker 1: They needed to pass rush for a very very last
Speaker 1: long time. I think they say they finished last in
Speaker 1: the last five years they've been last, have the least
Speaker 1: amount of sacks, and nobody's within thirty of them.
Speaker 2: So and.
Speaker 4: I'm going to say that the one thing I like
Speaker 4: about the defensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcon.
Speaker 3: The last name is Ulbridge. They don't have it. Why
Speaker 3: they don't have a Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4: But collectively as a group, running stunts stand different things
Speaker 4: with the with the with the demons, the line, with
Speaker 4: the linebackers, and adding pressure against you. You're going against
Speaker 4: the rookie quarterback even though he's in his second year,
Speaker 4: this is his first year Stars, but you're throwing stuff
Speaker 4: at him that's confusing him, because that's the one thing
Speaker 4: you want to do to a young quarterback. You want
Speaker 4: to put pressure on him, confuse him, force him the
Speaker 4: process information a little faster than you can and you
Speaker 4: get what you saw tonight. Interception fumbles, you get stuff
Speaker 4: like that. So they they played really well and I'm
Speaker 4: i'm I'm excited for the Falcons. Obviously, Penning Jr. Now
Speaker 4: Being the starter and the future is rank for Atlanta
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know why to keep Kirk Cousins looks Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: I don't know why to keep keep showing on Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: He ain't going in and nothing was wrong with Phoenix.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you ain't Nobody feeling no sympathy, freud,
Speaker 1: hell as he doesnet backed up to break truck and and.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, speaking of brings truck, do you know do
Speaker 4: you know how much Kirk Cousins has made?
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't think people understand.
Speaker 4: Hey he listen, he's he's a child of God and
Speaker 4: God has blessed him because it's over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I ain't nobody feeling ain't nobody feeling sorry
Speaker 1: for cot Cousins. He's standing on the sideline like man,
Speaker 1: coach put me in. No, bro, that's over that shipself.
Speaker 1: Sit there, draw your thirty million dollars and be quiet.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah they gave him one hundred million guaranteed. Mos he
Speaker 1: got it, so he got more money coming. But I really,
Speaker 1: I really really loved what I saw from the Falcons,
Speaker 1: their past rush. If they can keep this going, b
Speaker 1: John Robinson and here running the football.
Speaker 5: Yeah, schadeur calling me should do who it's only one
Speaker 5: should do her?
Speaker 2: Hold on? What's up?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: Nothing? Sitting here on the show was good? Yeah, we
Speaker 3: live right now.
Speaker 4: It's good. Talk to me as we want to come on? Huh,
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean you yeah, you own? I
Speaker 4: mean they could hit me talking and I said, I
Speaker 4: said it was you.
Speaker 3: But they can't. They can't what you're saying. Why you
Speaker 3: need me?
Speaker 1: Atlanta's defense had six sacks, Harrison one and a half,
Speaker 1: Doris one and a half, Pierce Junior half a sack,
Speaker 1: Leonard Ford sacked.
Speaker 3: I ain't see it. I ain't see it. I ain't
Speaker 3: see it.
Speaker 1: So Atlanta got after JJ McCarthy comes back down to reality.
Speaker 1: After he played so well the open the week, I think,
Speaker 1: even if I'm not mistaken, I think he was Offensive
Speaker 1: player of the Week in the NFC had an outstanding
Speaker 1: game spot of the Chicago Bears seventeen to six, and
Speaker 1: then they scored twenty one unanswered points to take a
Speaker 1: twenty seven to seventeen lead, and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: they end up holding on the winning JJ place really well.
Speaker 1: But that's just the ups and down that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have as a rookie quarterback. You shouldn't expect him.
Speaker 2: To be even keel especially really he's not a rookie,
Speaker 2: but as Ojo said, it's his first year starting.
Speaker 1: He's a second year player, but this is his first
Speaker 1: year starting. But uh, Falcons look good. Vikings back to
Speaker 1: the drawing board. Falcons, running their record to one and
Speaker 1: one with a twenty two to six win over the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings thanks to a great running by.
Speaker 2: Hold B. John Robinson twenty two carries a buck forty three.
Speaker 1: Alger had sixteen rushings seventy six yards thirty nine Russians
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighteen yards. Pennis Junior was thirteen to
Speaker 1: twenty one, one five three sacks. But they win this
Speaker 1: ball game twenty two to six.
Speaker 4: Hey, I have a question for you. I'm curious to
Speaker 4: how you feel about it. Chat you can you can,
Speaker 4: you can chime into it and let me know. When
Speaker 4: we talk about the tier the tier one running backs
Speaker 4: in the NFL, Your king, Henry's, you're Christian mc caffrey's.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I think Jonathan Taylor would be in that conversation as well.
Speaker 4: Is it time, yes, excuse me, I'm sorry. Is it
Speaker 4: time we put B. Jhon Robinson in that conversation? Is
Speaker 4: a Tier one running back? Or is he not there yet?
Speaker 3: Is he? Is he on the fringe of being Tier one?
Speaker 3: I'm just curious, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a he got he? I mean I
Speaker 1: need to see another year. I need to see.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Some awards I need I think, I think I need
Speaker 1: to see an All Pro or something. Yeah, right, because
Speaker 1: all those guys, I mean, you look at King Henry
Speaker 1: has basically been doing this since he's gotten too the league.
Speaker 1: Kuan was Offensive Rookie of the Year, he had another thousand,
Speaker 1: had an outstanding season, he got injured. Now he's went
Speaker 1: to the uh uh the Eagles Offensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 2: So Christian McCaffrey has been Offensive.
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, he's been a multiple time Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl rushed four thousand, received four thousand.
Speaker 2: I think I think bjon is on the CUSP.
Speaker 1: He would be he would be my next back to
Speaker 1: if you look at Jonathan Taylor, you look at it
Speaker 1: as you mentioned King Henry, Saquan and.
Speaker 3: And we can't forget Gibbs.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they're coming, They're coming, They're coming.
Speaker 1: Okay, it all depends because Gibbs and Montgomery don't get
Speaker 1: the workload that those other guys get.
Speaker 2: They split a lot of the carriages.
Speaker 1: King Henry gets the Lion share of the carry Saquan
Speaker 1: gets the Lion's share of the carriers. Christian McCaffrey gets
Speaker 1: the Lions share of the carriers. If you notice Robinson
Speaker 1: had twenty two rushes, but Algier had sixteen. So they
Speaker 1: do a great job. And and and you know, you
Speaker 1: can preserve your backs and you can. They'll be fresher
Speaker 1: longer where it on'll take the Lions share of the carriers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're right there. I mean, look, you can
Speaker 1: put Josh Jacobs in that groove. There are some guys
Speaker 1: that are that are that are right there, O Joe,
Speaker 1: that are right.
Speaker 3: There Aery Jones. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: The Eagles beat the Super Bowl, beat the Chiefs again
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Rematched the Chiefs and two for
Speaker 1: the first time since twenty fourteen. Patrick Mahomes starts the
Speaker 1: season oh and two for the first time since the
Speaker 1: South More year in high school. Jalen Hurts is now
Speaker 1: three and two against Patrick Mahomes, including the playoffs too,
Speaker 1: and what in the regular season. The broadcast caught an
Speaker 1: exchange between Chris Jones and Jalen Hurts. Jones said, you
Speaker 1: don't even have a hundred yards, Hurts. We want to
Speaker 1: have a game.
Speaker 2: Shut your leap up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, it was. It was a sloppy game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was. It was a sloppy game.
Speaker 4: I expected fireworks, you know, obviously, you think about you
Speaker 4: think about the Eagles as great as their adult their
Speaker 4: defensive line is the tush push dominated the game today.
Speaker 3: Sakwan was decent.
Speaker 4: I don't like the fact that, again aj Brown not
Speaker 4: getting involved into the game the way he should be,
Speaker 4: being a top when we talk about the top receiver
Speaker 4: in the NFL. But again it's the offense that they
Speaker 4: do run. They are winning, and a lot of people say, listen,
Speaker 4: numbers don't matter, stats don't matter as long as we
Speaker 4: are winning games. But one of the things that I
Speaker 4: don't like on is what teams do when it comes
Speaker 4: to business, when you command a certain set gallery. The
Speaker 4: first thing he's gonna do is they gonna tell you, well,
Speaker 4: what we're paying you doesn't match up to the production
Speaker 4: that you're giving us. You know, we're gonna need you
Speaker 4: to take a pecut. You know we're gonna need you
Speaker 4: to take a piccut.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 4: That's why I always complain about them not getting him
Speaker 4: the ball as much. But again, they are winning. That
Speaker 4: that that at the end of the day, that's what
Speaker 4: it's all about. I just understand the business side of things.
Speaker 4: Down the road, what they're going to try to pull
Speaker 4: outside of that on the chief side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Oh the receivers that they got guys, Oh Joe and
Speaker 1: no matter what you say, they have guys.
Speaker 2: Juju is a guy. Hollywood Brown has become a guy.
Speaker 2: They're guys. Kelsey has been lazy.
Speaker 1: He's getting lazy with his head, and he's getting lazy
Speaker 1: with his eyes. He knows in that area of the field,
Speaker 1: he has to snap his head. He knows. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he's looking. I don't know why he's so
Speaker 1: lazy with his head. There's nobody inside and and and
Speaker 1: and uh, what's thirty two's name? Blanket ship? He got
Speaker 1: your man? Why you're so lazy your head matter? You
Speaker 1: gotta snap it around. It's like he got it. And
Speaker 1: if no, bro, you got to snap that.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 1: And you took points off the board. So in other words,
Speaker 1: you don't get points. And they go down and they
Speaker 1: get points points. Yeah, yeah, big guy got oh Jo,
Speaker 1: they got guys. I don't care how great Mahomes is.
Speaker 1: He's not overcoming that big guy.
Speaker 2: Guys. They can't running back.
Speaker 1: And I keep telling you, Pachecko's a guy. They're thirty
Speaker 1: fifty guys. You can find fifty guys in the NFL
Speaker 1: that can do exactly what Isael Pachaco could do.
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt is past this prime. He's a guy. They
Speaker 2: got guys, got guys.
Speaker 1: There's nothing special about anybody on that team right now
Speaker 1: offensively other than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Offensively, they got guys.
Speaker 4: But but you heard what you just said that nobody
Speaker 4: on that team that is special outside of the quarterback,
Speaker 4: and that's the most important position.
Speaker 2: I mean, Chris Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, that offensive line did an outstanding
Speaker 1: job today. They ran the ball. Yeah, thirty four rushes
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty two yards. Look, oh, jo I
Speaker 1: ain't got probably with a touch push. But if you're
Speaker 1: gonna let him jump the count, can't nobody stop it?
Speaker 1: You remember last year they tried a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: they tried to put an emphasis on those tackles were
Speaker 1: jump in the snap count, and they started calling it,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna let the offensive lineman jump the count,
Speaker 1: that start the guards and tackles start moving before the
Speaker 1: center starts the ball. But no, nobody's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to stop it. And you can see it they jump
Speaker 1: in the count. Yeah, but this, I mean, she look bad.
Speaker 1: I mean there's no where around it. The Chiefs just
Speaker 1: look bad on Joe.
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 1: I mean Patrick Mahomes are leading Russia. I mean he
Speaker 1: taking and he's gonna have to be careful. Lord that
Speaker 1: lord on that shoulder. I know his his non throwing shoulders,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna be you gotta be careful with that.
Speaker 1: And but you throw caution to the win, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: because you get out there and you're a competitor and
Speaker 1: you you know you've lost your first you lost the
Speaker 1: first game, you lost the second game, and you just
Speaker 1: want to have some resemblance of something and offensively and
Speaker 1: try to stay on the field. But he's gonna need
Speaker 1: to be careful. But offensively they got guys, I mean
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Mahomes had Thornton wide open and he overshoots
Speaker 1: in bout fifteen yards. Now they come back and catch
Speaker 1: him again and he makes an outstanding play.
Speaker 4: But mat Yeah, they put they put that safety on it.
Speaker 4: They put that safety in the buy and had him
Speaker 4: make a choice either you stay with the safety and the.
Speaker 3: Mahomes and then dig safety. Dig It was too late.
Speaker 3: It was too late for Mitchell to get over.
Speaker 4: Yes, But listen, you have to think about when Tyreek
Speaker 4: left the Chiefs, they just had guys, and Mahomes was
Speaker 4: still able to get it done.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 4: As long as I have fifteen, I'm not a Chiefs fan,
Speaker 4: but as long as I have fifteen.
Speaker 3: I have a chance. But as long as I have
Speaker 3: eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Who knows you, oh, Jo, he's not that same guy
Speaker 1: that he was when when Tyreek first left. You know
Speaker 1: that you watch the game, You're watching it. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not breaking news, and everybody knows. I
Speaker 1: love now. But he's not the same. It's not even closed.
Speaker 1: And when you lose, Rushie writes, who is he started at?
Speaker 1: If you go back and look that year that he
Speaker 1: got there, he had started to take over, like okay,
Speaker 1: they got something worthy, had started looking and now he's hurt.
Speaker 1: So now you got man. Look, Baltimore was willing to
Speaker 1: trade a Hollywood Brown. The Cardinals was willing to let
Speaker 1: him go. Come on now, oh yo, look at Juju.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh says, okay, you can go. He goes to New England.
Speaker 1: They're like, nah, you good, go ahead. I think he
Speaker 1: went to New England first. Then he comes to Kansas
Speaker 1: City he goes somewhere else and he's back in Kansas City. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're better off the I mean, if you take
Speaker 1: if you take those scramble yards out, you got Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt got eight carries for thirty one yards along of
Speaker 1: eleven Isaaea Pacheco ten carries twenty two yards. Ten carries
Speaker 1: twenty two yards, running hard, going nowhere. It's got this
Speaker 1: kind like man. He basically running the place. Man, I've
Speaker 1: been I've been runing you running the place as you
Speaker 1: ain't with nowhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna be all right. I mean, listen, that's
Speaker 4: the that's the one team.
Speaker 2: I oh.
Speaker 4: I will always have a chance no matter what I
Speaker 4: have surrounded me, because what I lack offensively, the quarterback
Speaker 4: I have can overcome it. This is a bad game today,
Speaker 4: but as the season goes on and they make adjustments.
Speaker 4: It's the same conversation we had with the Chiefs at
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season last year. All the goddamn drops,
Speaker 4: we ain't got nobody to throw to. Kelsey can't get open.
Speaker 4: He's not the same Kelsey was, you know, no back
Speaker 4: back a few years ago. But but but again, for
Speaker 4: some reason, you know what they ended up last year
Speaker 4: and it got damn mess.
Speaker 1: Your question, do you think Buffalo is better last year
Speaker 1: than better this year than they were last year?
Speaker 2: You like the way Josh Allen is playing right now? Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: What about Baltimore? You think they're better than what they
Speaker 1: were last year? What about the Chargers? Are they better
Speaker 1: than what they were last year?
Speaker 4: They are the most motherfucker they are the most improved.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, speaking of this Charges, I'm still I'm
Speaker 4: still in Vegas. I ain't gon so I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 4: going to the game. I'm going to tomorrow.
Speaker 1: No, I don't I do that. I got to I
Speaker 1: haven't been outside this time for me to come in.
Speaker 3: But I got two tickets for us.
Speaker 2: I take take your people.
Speaker 3: No, it was it was a surprise for you.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta stay here
Speaker 2: in prep.
Speaker 3: But we could prep ge. We could prep at the
Speaker 3: same time and watch the game.
Speaker 4: We can talk about the game and take notes and
Speaker 4: when we're gonna talk about when we get do nightcap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I absolutely doubt want to go to the game.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, j J said, Man told he told Jalen
Speaker 1: hurts you don't even have a one hundred yards heard said, we.
Speaker 2: Wanted the f and game. Shut your shut up, And
Speaker 2: that's the ultimate thing school boards.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm at the end of the day. But how
Speaker 4: long can they play like this? How long can you
Speaker 4: how how long can you play throwing for less?
Speaker 1: They did it last year? You just told you, just
Speaker 1: told me about the Cat's see.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I said, I said it.
Speaker 4: But I'm just asking you how long are you going
Speaker 4: to be able to do that this year? This is
Speaker 4: a new year when you when you come against a
Speaker 4: team that's offer of the juggernaut, that can actually run
Speaker 4: the ball, that can actually throw the ball, that can
Speaker 4: actually play a little better defense than what the Chiefs
Speaker 4: played today.
Speaker 2: What happened? You play that bad?
Speaker 1: I mean, what did they give up? But that they
Speaker 1: didn't play well? Oh yo, think about it. They gave
Speaker 1: one hundred, They gave up one hundred and twenty two
Speaker 1: yards rushing on thirty four carries. They gave up one
Speaker 1: hundred and one passing yards on twenty two attempts. So
Speaker 1: they gave up. They gave up six one sixteen. They
Speaker 1: have two and sixteen total yards. If you give up
Speaker 1: doing sixteen total yards you're supposed to win if your
Speaker 1: defense gives a poll of opposing offense to two hundred
Speaker 1: and sixteen yards and they have points because they scored
Speaker 1: off Kelsey, a babble the ball and the go to
Speaker 1: pick at the Indian zone. Yeah, and Kan kudos to
Speaker 1: the left tackle. Sim is the number one draft pick
Speaker 1: because you win't got it?
Speaker 3: You were moving boy to be that.
Speaker 1: Yes, but they got they got to get better. They
Speaker 1: got Joe, They got a bunch of fans guys.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: They don't have anybody that can consistently get down the
Speaker 1: field and catch the ball.
Speaker 2: Hollywood. I mean they got the guys. Those guys are
Speaker 2: oh Joe.
Speaker 1: The thing is about Hollywood Brown is that wherever you
Speaker 1: catch is it, That's what they're gonna tackle it.
Speaker 2: Man, he breaking the tackles.
Speaker 4: But you gotta think everybody don't have a Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4: Everybody don't have a Justin Jefferson. Like that's not That
Speaker 4: hasn't been the makeup of their team offensively since Tyreek left,
Speaker 4: it hasn't.
Speaker 1: I think Scott Rice was coming in his own. You
Speaker 1: could tell he gonna be a player. He was that
Speaker 1: bossy saw him got get better and better and better.
Speaker 2: So those were the guys that they were counting on.
Speaker 1: Look, the chief knew that some kind of punishment was
Speaker 1: coming to Rashiet Wrights. The reports that they wanted to
Speaker 1: suspend him for the whole year. He wasn't going for that.
Speaker 1: They settled on six games. So the chiefs knew something
Speaker 1: was coming. They didn't expect Xavier work. They didn't expect
Speaker 1: their own guy to run into Xavier Worthy and dislocated shoulder.
Speaker 2: They weren't expecting that.
Speaker 1: Look Tae Kwan Thornton, Look, I didn't know anything about it,
Speaker 1: but he goes to the comboy. He runs four two seven.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get everybody's under boted attention. You run that
Speaker 1: fast and that's at that height, you're gonna get people's attention.
Speaker 1: And that's what he did. Juju is Look, he can
Speaker 1: make tough contests. Catch him on yo, but he ain't
Speaker 1: going Oh, he ain't going nowhere in a hurry. He's
Speaker 1: never been a speed merchant. Right, But you gotta think
Speaker 1: about it. This all comes down to office a coordinator.
Speaker 1: It's all about understanding the players you have and putting
Speaker 1: the players that you have in positions to make plays
Speaker 1: based on their strengths.
Speaker 2: You have a court, how many shallow cost you have
Speaker 2: me to run? Oo?
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, listen, if that's what they do, that's
Speaker 3: what that that that that's.
Speaker 1: What you got to do. But guess what oo. And
Speaker 1: because you don't have nobody that's great run after the catch.
Speaker 1: So guess what where they catch the ball? That's where
Speaker 1: they tackled at. In order to run shallows and all
Speaker 1: that pig stuff, you need guys that can run after catch.
Speaker 2: You need guys that can break tackles. O joe.
Speaker 3: But I know one thing. You keep moving the chains.
Speaker 3: You keep moving the chains if you don't have someone
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, oh whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4: Let's think about this. Let's think about the Patriots. Think
Speaker 4: about the Patriots. They had no speed merchants, but it
Speaker 4: was shallows underneaths crosses, middle of the.
Speaker 3: Middle of that.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about, not not the Moss Patriots. I'm talking
Speaker 4: about the Edelman, the grom you know, I mean.
Speaker 3: Crossings.
Speaker 1: Is better than is better than any receiver. But they
Speaker 1: got right now on the cheese.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm not gonna I'm not comparing. I'm just saying
Speaker 4: the route. I'm about the ski.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that was their thing, and then they attack you.
Speaker 1: But in order to consistently run those you got to
Speaker 1: stay on You can't get behind the chains. And a
Speaker 1: lot of times the Chiefs will fall behind the chains,
Speaker 1: They'll get stuck at second and ten, they'll get second
Speaker 1: and twelve, they'll get a holding call. So now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they don't care if you run a
Speaker 1: shallow across. They just go tackle you and get off
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got to have some type of run
Speaker 3: a game.
Speaker 4: Yes, you got to have some type of run a
Speaker 4: game to keep the defense on, some type of running
Speaker 4: game to keep the defense honest. But the good thing
Speaker 4: for the Chiefs is it not playing the Eagles every
Speaker 4: goddamn week. They're not playing the Eagles every goddamn week,
Speaker 4: So other games are going to look much better than
Speaker 4: what they did.
Speaker 1: They realize, Oh, Jo, we saw the Chargers do this
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point in time, I can only
Speaker 1: scheme so much when you start giving me gizzards and
Speaker 1: livers and lives, and I can only make such an
Speaker 1: I can only make a dish. I can only make
Speaker 1: so much out of it, Joe. At some point in time,
Speaker 1: if you want better dishes, you're gonna have to give
Speaker 1: me better ingredients. And right now these this is the
Speaker 1: ingredients that I have, and I can only do so
Speaker 1: much with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 3: It's so funny.
Speaker 4: We had these conversations about the Chiefs and their struggles
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the season, whether it's the officer line,
Speaker 4: whether it's the receivers getting open, whether it's receivers dropping
Speaker 4: the ball. In this case, now some of the some
Speaker 4: of some of their best players that you expect to
Speaker 4: step up to the plate with the with the the
Speaker 4: absence of worthy, with the absence of the she rights,
Speaker 4: and they're messing up the ones that you think you
Speaker 4: can count on.
Speaker 3: And and hey, they got to go back to the
Speaker 3: drum ball problem.
Speaker 2: They got to go back to the thangels.
Speaker 1: OJO is that when you're struggling offensively, the one thing
Speaker 1: that you can't do is what turn the ball over?
Speaker 2: Turn them all over.
Speaker 1: Yo, you you're about to get points because think about jo,
Speaker 1: there was a stretch there early in Mahone's career. You
Speaker 1: like seventeen points. He getting that in the first half.
Speaker 1: You took about for a game easy. Oh hein't gonna
Speaker 1: get bored of that and think about it. How late
Speaker 1: it was when they got that seventeen because of the
Speaker 1: longest time they had ten and here we are with
Speaker 1: three minutes left in the game they got ten points.
Speaker 1: So we're not used to seeing them struggle offensively, like
Speaker 1: they're struggling to make matters worse is that to turn
Speaker 1: the ball over and they don't need to turn it
Speaker 1: over four or five times because you're already struggling. One
Speaker 1: turnover could possibly doom you when you can only put
Speaker 1: up seventeen points.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, The defensive, I mean defense held that team to.
Speaker 1: Like how they held that team to twenty points after
Speaker 1: they get excuse me, after they gave up what they
Speaker 1: gave up in the Super Bowl. Held them they held
Speaker 1: them to It was ten, ten aut a half. They
Speaker 1: gave up three in the third and both of them
Speaker 1: scored seven in the fourth. M You can't dang it's
Speaker 1: it's it's Look, they're in a very tough spot because
Speaker 1: of the absence of Rice and Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 2: But ain't nobody feeling sorry for the Chiefs?
Speaker 4: Nah, don't feel sorry for him because they had problems
Speaker 4: Every year we talk about their struggles we talk about
Speaker 4: their issues on offense, on defense, off the line, to
Speaker 4: talk about the receivers, the tight ends, and for some
Speaker 4: goddamn reason, now watch they end up backing goddamn San
Speaker 4: Francisco coming for we want.
Speaker 1: I don't feel as confident as I did it Bud
Speaker 1: beating Canelo. So if you ask me to put some
Speaker 1: money down, I ain't doing that. And if they do
Speaker 1: end up there, bless them. But I ain't putting no money.
Speaker 1: That means up to me. Ohto the Cowboys beat the
Speaker 1: Giants in ot Brandon Aubrey kicked the sixty four yard
Speaker 1: field goal as time expired, and then he kicked a
Speaker 1: forty six yard field goal to win the ball game
Speaker 1: forty to thirty seven. CD Lamb had one hundred and
Speaker 1: twelve yards on nine catches, George Pickens five catches sixty
Speaker 1: eight yards and a touchdown that put Dallads up by
Speaker 1: four with fifty two seconds in the regulation, but Russ
Speaker 1: came back found over the top.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I hate with this.
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, that was that was a great game.
Speaker 4: That Cowboy Giants game might might have been might have
Speaker 4: been the best.
Speaker 2: Game of it was no question about it was the
Speaker 2: best game of the day.
Speaker 3: Oh there, they were nice. They were going back and forth.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Giants defense let him down. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: listen it.
Speaker 4: The Giants defense played well most of the day outside
Speaker 4: that that one play.
Speaker 1: What stretched left and he bound? You got it wrapped
Speaker 1: up and you and you let Yeah, you let Javonte.
Speaker 1: I mean you're third and fourteen and you let him
Speaker 1: pick up. Yeah, you can't do that. You got it
Speaker 1: wrapped up, You got it stopped at the line, and
Speaker 1: somehow you let him, You let him out.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 4: That was a good game, though, it was a very
Speaker 4: good game. As a as a Giants fan, you got
Speaker 4: to be optimistic. The way they look today, especially rusted
Speaker 4: to him. They didn't look as bad as they did
Speaker 4: previous week. And Elak neighbors doing what he got to do.
Speaker 4: I just the running game. Running game was decent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every basically four yards of care. You can live
Speaker 1: with that. The thing is, o, Joe, is that the turnover?
Speaker 1: And I know you guys.
Speaker 3: He had the press. He had the pressure.
Speaker 2: That's not what yo. You can't throw. You can't get
Speaker 2: thrown down in the middle of the field.
Speaker 3: Oh no, he was trying to throw to the corner,
Speaker 3: but he got hit. Man.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, today he was dealing thirty or forty
Speaker 1: one fifty three touchdowns. Uh, that was thirty eight to
Speaker 1: fifty two three sixty one, two touchdowns, one interception, a
Speaker 1: lot of offense, a lot.
Speaker 2: Of you know, five hundred yards from the Giant, almost
Speaker 2: five hundred yards for the Cowboys. But it just cut
Speaker 2: moments that come down to making plays.
Speaker 1: I mean, Malite Neighbors nine for a buck sixty seven,
Speaker 1: two tubs one, Dale Robinson eight for buck forty two,
Speaker 1: one tub, Darius Slayton two for sixty one.
Speaker 2: I mean, guys are playing well.
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb nine for a buck twelve, Jake Ferguson nine
Speaker 1: for seventy eight, George Figgins five for sixty eight, Cavonte
Speaker 1: Turpin four for forty seven. Man, if they let another
Speaker 1: defender cross their face, I mean offense, Oh Joe, on
Speaker 1: what route?
Speaker 2: What route? You don't let nobody inside of you on
Speaker 2: the gold line, that's the easiest throw. Yeah, I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm like.
Speaker 1: Dude, I was like, I was like, I just want
Speaker 1: to be I just want to be a fly on
Speaker 1: the wall because I would love to hear with deep
Speaker 1: with the coordinator and the position coach are teaching these guys,
Speaker 1: because it seemed like they just let guys just willing,
Speaker 1: nearly just just go across their face. I'm not letting
Speaker 1: you cross my face. It's just like an offensive player. Oho,
Speaker 1: you never let a defensive player across your face. So
Speaker 1: as a defender, the offensive player not let try to
Speaker 1: let you cross his face. As a defender, why would
Speaker 1: you let the offensive player across your face.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Ojoe.
Speaker 1: But give the Cowboys credit because these are games that
Speaker 1: we've seen the Cowboys fade in.
Speaker 2: Do you have the lead, Ojo?
Speaker 1: And then and then guess what, And in three plays
Speaker 1: they're backing the end zone and they got the lead.
Speaker 2: But you have to give all the credit.
Speaker 1: Sixty four yards, o Joe, that ball like it'd have
Speaker 1: been good for seventy four.
Speaker 3: It is, he said.
Speaker 4: He said, Obviously, are we having a soccer background as well.
Speaker 4: It's one thing to be able to kick far, but
Speaker 4: to be able to kick far and be accurate, is
Speaker 4: you that's the problem because the further out you go,
Speaker 4: with the goalpost being as narrow as they are, is
Speaker 4: being accurate from that far out and being able to
Speaker 4: control the trajectory of the ball and where you wanted
Speaker 4: to go. And he's really really good at that. And
Speaker 4: I know because he has a soccer background, he's that
Speaker 4: much more confident in doing so well.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure all of the guys got soccer backgrounds.
Speaker 2: There are no most straight on kickers anymore. There used
Speaker 2: to be, you know, the soccer you know, the straight
Speaker 2: on the square, the square toe guys. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't think I've seen who was that.
Speaker 1: The last guy was probably Mark Moseley, but he was
Speaker 1: he was gone, But for I don't think I was
Speaker 1: in the league when I got there.
Speaker 2: He right, I think he retired. I don't think I
Speaker 2: played against Mosley. I don't.
Speaker 1: But he's the only kicker to win the MVP nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty two, if I'm not mistaken, kicker win the MVP
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Oh, Joe, yeah, yeah, but I like
Speaker 1: this is like I said, O, Joe, this is the
Speaker 1: type of game that the Cowboys would normally lose, have
Speaker 1: a lead and then give it up lad in the
Speaker 1: ball game and then Dack with either fumblot or strip
Speaker 1: sack or something like that. That did a heck of
Speaker 1: a job of getting out of harms way too, because
Speaker 1: they had him sacked one time and he got him
Speaker 1: out of that. But you see Jared saying there after
Speaker 1: the game that they signed your davy in clowning. After
Speaker 1: you see Russell Wilson grow for four hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: yards on you. Yeah, you better go get somebody you
Speaker 1: need youmpression.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And alright, like.
Speaker 1: I said, and the thing is, Oh, Joe, he just
Speaker 1: he kicks so effortless and the ball just jumps off
Speaker 1: his foot. I mean, he don't try to kill it.
Speaker 1: I mean it's the same swing whether he's kicking a
Speaker 1: pat or he's kicking the ball sixty plus yards, it's
Speaker 1: the same. It's the same, it's the same motion, it's
Speaker 1: the same rhythm. And it was It was unbelievable. The Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Who the Cowboys play next? One in one the Giants
Speaker 1: fall zer and two. The Giants welcome in Kansas City
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, don't they?
Speaker 4: Oh, that's gonna be a good one. Wait, what are
Speaker 4: they playing at Kansas City or New York? Well, that's
Speaker 4: gonna be a good one. That's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1: In Kansas City. Cowboy's play Bears in Chicago Dallas.
Speaker 2: Oh, they ain't much going on that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, first drive, Gianz left tackle, James Hudson fifteen
Speaker 1: yard pienoty five yard false start, fifteen yard Pillty five
Speaker 1: yard false start. Hustled with bitch the following drive and
Speaker 1: got into it on the sideline with Brian Dayball. We
Speaker 1: just saw last week, Molak neighbors bro. I just want
Speaker 1: you to know, what do you want them to do
Speaker 1: on the first possession of the game. You give up
Speaker 1: fifteen yards, twenty yards, thirty five yards, forty yards in penalties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I just try to figure out what does he
Speaker 1: want the what if you want the coaches to do?
Speaker 4: I don't think he understands that that affects the game
Speaker 4: in the long run.
Speaker 3: It affects the game in the long run. Every play counts,
Speaker 3: every play matters, even in the beginning of the game.
Speaker 3: You don't know what could have happened on that first drive,
Speaker 3: if that's that's all, that's all.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think players understand every play counts, every single one.
Speaker 4: Now that there might be one or two that changed
Speaker 4: the game itself. The two and in that first drive
Speaker 4: one of those players that would have changed that game.
Speaker 3: It could have been right there.
Speaker 4: Where you keep jumping off side or you're having you're
Speaker 4: costing your team. You're costing your team, which is why
Speaker 4: you're getting into it with the coach. Yeah, we got
Speaker 4: we gotta bench you.
Speaker 3: They did that. It literally, Yes, when you.
Speaker 4: Mess up consistently over and over, you gotta go down.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, either coaching or you're
Speaker 1: condoning it. Now, which one is it? O Joe, are
Speaker 1: you coaching this type of behavior? Are you condoning this
Speaker 1: type of behavior? When either case, you're wrong. And I
Speaker 1: wish this young, I wish this And like I said,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, sometimes you're so close to a situation you
Speaker 1: don't see it or you don't understand it. But I
Speaker 1: hope he got an opportunity to sit back and look
Speaker 1: at his actions. And sometimes it becomes when you become
Speaker 1: you can become reflected, when you can reflect, like, damn, that.
Speaker 2: Wasn't the coach fault. That's on It's on me. It's
Speaker 2: on me, guys. I'm sorry. He should apologize to the team.
Speaker 1: The question that I have is that I've seen back
Speaker 1: to back weeks I've seen people, but blowing up at
Speaker 1: the coach.
Speaker 2: That's not a good sign on Joe. No, not at all,
Speaker 2: not at all, because I'm telling you what.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the people upstairs that pay that
Speaker 1: pay day bass. Is he losing his team? Does he
Speaker 1: have control of this team? Can he coach this team?
Speaker 1: Those are the questions that they're asking, right, But I
Speaker 1: don't look at like I said, I hadn't had a
Speaker 1: whole lot of head coaches, oh, Joe, But I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't remember about doing at the Dan Reed. I
Speaker 1: don't remember anybody doing it in like Shanahan. I don't
Speaker 1: remember that doing that the way Phillips. I'm just like Brian.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Guy, like I said, I'm I'll show you know what.
Speaker 1: I guess this to be expected. I'm old school, I've
Speaker 1: been I'm so far removed for it, I removed from it.
Speaker 1: I guess this is the modern day behavior. This is
Speaker 1: how guys instead of accepting accountability that you know what,
Speaker 1: I messed up. I got the holding call, I got
Speaker 1: the false start. It's somebody else's fault. I guess that's
Speaker 1: where we are right now. So I guess this is
Speaker 1: why I couldn't coach, got I couldn't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't listen.
Speaker 4: It's a different era of football. It is a different
Speaker 4: era of player in general. The money is different that
Speaker 4: they are making.
Speaker 3: The funny thing about it, it's okay to make it. Yes,
Speaker 3: thanks are going to happen.
Speaker 4: The point of pre is to practice, to get it
Speaker 4: perfect and do it as many times as you can
Speaker 4: the right way. Our mistake can happen, yes, but for
Speaker 4: him to happen back to back to back to back,
Speaker 4: and you cast your team affecting your team, now you
Speaker 4: got to sit down. You gotta sit down. So I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm even I'm.
Speaker 3: Not even sure how you even argue the fact. But
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know that that was.
Speaker 3: A left tack. So that's the money position.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't. I don't, Like I said, I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Now is that guys?
Speaker 1: Like I said, Oh Joe, you know, and in today's
Speaker 1: the way it is now. But I think, guys, look,
Speaker 1: in this situation, I just don't know, you know. And
Speaker 1: I understand that Brian day Bard is gonna catch it
Speaker 1: flak because he's the head coach and he kind of
Speaker 1: bowed up.
Speaker 2: But where are the leaders? Where are your offensive leaders?
Speaker 2: Where are your leaders of the team?
Speaker 3: Brian, Brian Burns? What they was there? They wash? This
Speaker 3: was right on the sideline. That's Wilson.
Speaker 2: James.
Speaker 1: Yeah, James, you just cost us one hundred yards impunities
Speaker 1: and so what you wanted to just leave you in
Speaker 1: there and just let you let's just keep going. They
Speaker 1: might have put him back in the game. But I
Speaker 1: can't after this kind of behavior, which I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: Because the one thing I refuse to do is to talk,
Speaker 1: is to reinforce negative behavior. If your child acts up
Speaker 1: and you give them ice cream a cookie, what will
Speaker 1: they continue to do? You're reinforcing negative behavior. I'll never
Speaker 1: reinforce negative behavior. I refuse to.
Speaker 4: And I don't think he understand how important he is too.
Speaker 4: But you might be the most the most important offensive
Speaker 4: player for the offense.
Speaker 3: To even go to even be able to eat slaves. Boy,
Speaker 3: you got Russell Wilson's blind side? What do you what
Speaker 3: are you doing? And if you can't take accountability for
Speaker 3: going off sides and having holding penlolies, man, go sit
Speaker 3: your ad down somewhere. Man, you costing.
Speaker 1: Uh, he got an unnecessary roughness penalty, then he got
Speaker 1: a false start penalty. Then he got another unnecessary roughness piloty,
Speaker 1: and then he got a five yard then he got
Speaker 1: another false start. He did that and then he got mad.
Speaker 4: Hey, come on, come on sit over here with me,
Speaker 4: real quick, come on, come on think about this real quick.
Speaker 4: Get your mind together, get your mind together, and we'll
Speaker 4: put you back in. But now you want to bore
Speaker 4: up at the head coach after you messing up, you
Speaker 4: costing us, man, sit your ad down, man, But you know.
Speaker 3: What, you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't you can't sit him down too long because
Speaker 4: obviously he's your started left tackle. He's just started left
Speaker 4: tackle for a reason, and your start left tackle is
Speaker 4: really the money position. So you're paying him with whatever
Speaker 4: you're paying him, so you ain't got no choice but
Speaker 4: the plane.
Speaker 1: Sometimes, oh Choe, you have to discipline a player because
Speaker 1: the other players are watching, and and and and and
Speaker 1: and you don't want the other players to think that's acceptable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always I've always tried to, like when I played,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I've always tried to like stay within myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were times I was seed, absolutely, but I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know guys are watching me, and I
Speaker 1: know one day I'm gonna move on and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be there and they're gonna be in my position
Speaker 1: where they're gonna be one of the better players. And
Speaker 1: I never wanted players to think that was okay. There's
Speaker 1: a time and the place for everything. Yeah, the quarterback
Speaker 1: messed up. Yeah, guys wrong, ran wrong routes. Just pull
Speaker 1: them to the side, and we didn't have nearly the
Speaker 1: cameras that they got. Now, oh Joe, you can't do nothing.
Speaker 1: You can't say it. I mean, even you talking to somebody,
Speaker 1: I wonder what they're saying. I want to with there
Speaker 1: talking or you might have somebody got the book, got
Speaker 1: the got the mic, the big round bubble and picking
Speaker 1: up all the audio because think about you, cause you
Speaker 1: heard what Chris Jones said, that's on.
Speaker 2: The field, O Joe, and then picked that up.
Speaker 1: So I just I just I just I just hate
Speaker 1: this for the young man. Hopefully he gets an opportunity
Speaker 1: to get home and and and on the plane ride
Speaker 1: home if it didn't dawn on him, Ojoe when he
Speaker 1: was on the sideline. Hopefully on that long plane ride
Speaker 1: home to New York. He's sitting there and he's having
Speaker 1: a conversation with himself, like, you know what, I need
Speaker 1: to be better. I need to handle my emotions better
Speaker 1: so I don't put my team in the harm's way.
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, when you play
Speaker 1: a team sport, your behavior is reflective on the team.
Speaker 2: It ain't just you.
Speaker 1: John mckiroe can blow up and get all he wants to,
Speaker 1: but guess what, o, Joe, he's playing tingles. A golfer
Speaker 1: can get mad and break his club that Joe love Hell,
Speaker 1: that's one less club.
Speaker 2: In your bag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know, I know. One thing is to
Speaker 3: blow up like that, understanding that.
Speaker 4: You're not even You're not even the starter. He's not
Speaker 4: even the starter. And I'm surprised somebody ain't say and
Speaker 4: see what you're doing right now? The mistakes you make
Speaker 4: it right now is why you're not the starting left
Speaker 4: tackle anyway, which is why you're coming off the bench,
Speaker 4: and the only reason you in the game is because
Speaker 4: the start is injured hurt.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's wrong with Andrew Thomas, but here's
Speaker 1: the thing that how.
Speaker 4: You now you see why? That's what I if I
Speaker 4: was the Ball. I would have told him, now you
Speaker 4: see why your ass ain't starting.
Speaker 2: You better be careful because you're not starting that type
Speaker 2: of behavior. Get you cut.
Speaker 4: They showed, They show you that though faster faster than
Speaker 4: you could.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Uh, Andrew Andrew Thomas is out with Liz Frank.
Speaker 1: Do they expect him They expect him back at some point, right,
Speaker 1: because he had it last year.
Speaker 2: He didn't just do it. Yeah, so he's trying to
Speaker 2: come back.
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's a tough injury for a tackle
Speaker 1: because you know everything, everything's on your toes, you got
Speaker 1: to push.
Speaker 3: Off your toes, you got a kid, everything.
Speaker 2: So I hate that. Like I said, I don't know
Speaker 2: Brian dave Ball. I don't know Brian dave Ball from
Speaker 2: a candapaign.
Speaker 1: I just know what higher up thinks when they see
Speaker 1: this type of behavior and they see it reoccurring.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: But the hard part is is the season's already started,
Speaker 4: so there's really nobody else to bring in and you
Speaker 4: have to rely on him no matter.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, because any.
Speaker 4: Anybody that's available, they available for a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But hey, you see my view and you see what's
Speaker 3: over my show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Jerry announced after the game the Cowboys have signed Ed Rutgers.
Speaker 1: Your baby in clowney o Joe. How much will that
Speaker 1: help the defense? They did sacks rust three times today.
Speaker 2: Uh, you got him Clark, Kenny Clark got him once.
Speaker 1: Uh, Houston got him once. Man, what others that come from?
Speaker 1: Am I am I blind or something?
Speaker 2: I see?
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark got one, Hudson got Houston got one. But
Speaker 1: they said he got three sacks?
Speaker 2: What other one? Who got the other sack? Am I
Speaker 2: missing something? Maybe my eyes are bad? I just baby baby? Hey.
Speaker 4: But addition to Jay Young, Jadavian is gonna be good.
Speaker 4: He destructive, he has a motor. He gonna get after
Speaker 4: the quarterback.
Speaker 3: He's he's okay.
Speaker 4: Against the run, they gonna they're gonna be alright. They're
Speaker 4: gonna be alright. Any any help they can get defensively,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be good. It's gonna be It's gonna be
Speaker 4: really good because they gonna need it.
Speaker 3: They gonna need it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Ravens beat the Browns by the score forty one to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Ravens linebacker Kyle van Oi told the Ravens told the
Speaker 1: reporters that the Baltimore defense had a team done a
Speaker 1: meeting in order to get beyond's.
Speaker 2: Last week for fourth quarter collapse. It worked. The Ravens
Speaker 2: are now thirteen and two following losses since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: It was a ten to three half at the half.
Speaker 1: Miles Garret Steed after the game. I mean, this issue
Speaker 1: is embarrassing. We've got to be better on defense. We've
Speaker 1: got to be better as a team. They slowly chipped away,
Speaker 1: and he did a solid job holding them to three
Speaker 1: when we could.
Speaker 2: But then eventually the damn broke.
Speaker 1: And we just whatever they wanted and we have to
Speaker 1: continue to play for sixty minutes. Kevin Stefanski said after
Speaker 1: the game that won't that he won't consider a QB
Speaker 1: change A Miles, enjoy that one hundred and sixty million,
Speaker 1: because this is what it's gonna be like in your
Speaker 1: future until y'all get until you get a quarterback. This
Speaker 1: is what you're going to be resigned to now. I look,
Speaker 1: maybe you know getting a million, a couple of two million,
Speaker 1: you know, two million dollars a month every game, check
Speaker 1: on Joe before a tax. Yeah, maybe that maybe that
Speaker 1: lessens it some this is your faith, this is your fate,
Speaker 1: this is oh yo, let's be real, this is what
Speaker 1: this is what's gonna happen in Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Unless something miraculously happens. We do know that Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: can go on to run offensively.
Speaker 2: It's over. You watched them today, it's over.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah today, But you got to understand what they
Speaker 4: planning against. Now you're playing against the division opponent that knows.
Speaker 1: Your question to do. When he was in Cleveland the
Speaker 1: first time, why didn't they keep him? And he was
Speaker 1: the guy he went to ending Why didn't they keep him?
Speaker 1: If he was the guy he went to the gym direction?
Speaker 1: Why didn't they keep him?
Speaker 2: If he was the guy?
Speaker 3: You know why.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not saying he's the guy. I'm not
Speaker 4: saying he's a guy. But it's what you had to
Speaker 4: deal with right now. And they definitely don't want to
Speaker 4: they they definitely don't want to make a move that
Speaker 4: early the quarterback number two because basically, what you're telling
Speaker 4: your team is we're waving the white flag and were
Speaker 4: throwing it all in and we're gonna worry about starting
Speaker 4: our future right now.
Speaker 1: I ain't got I got a sheet. I got anything
Speaker 1: that's white, and I'm waving it.
Speaker 3: It's week two. You can't you can't wait.
Speaker 4: You can't wave the town till maybe week five, weeks six,
Speaker 4: and stuff still ain't going well.
Speaker 3: You said it yourself. What week you said they were
Speaker 3: gonna swisch quarter swisch quarterback.
Speaker 2: Oh with the Giants eight?
Speaker 3: Oh you said the Giants?
Speaker 2: Well, hell, oh, Cleveland clean gonna be muer than that Week.
Speaker 3: Six, Week six, Week six, if anything.
Speaker 1: Well, week I can just imagine how Cleveland receivers feeling.
Speaker 1: It's tough to continuously run routes, try to get open,
Speaker 1: and you like, I give, I give, I give, you
Speaker 1: give Cleveland deep Russ defense twenty one rush is forty
Speaker 1: five yards, but Lamar had nineteen or twenty nine for
Speaker 1: two twenty five and four tubs passing.
Speaker 3: He did. They did say they were gonna stop Dereck Henry.
Speaker 4: They did did Grant Dell Pitt did say it's not
Speaker 4: hard to tackle Derrick Henry. They did a good job
Speaker 4: on Derrick Henry, not everybody everywhere else through the air.
Speaker 1: Zay Flyers had seven for seventy five. D hot was
Speaker 1: two for sixty four a touchdown. Walker two for twenty
Speaker 1: six two touchdowns, Wallace two for twenty five a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Oh Man ro Kwan Smith had himself a day fifteen total,
Speaker 1: fifteen total tackles and a fumber return for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: They got up to the quarterback, they got up the
Speaker 1: flat with look flac oh is a statue.
Speaker 3: You can't move you never could, that ain't never been
Speaker 3: and it's fourteen.
Speaker 1: Oh go by you our special teams. I was, That's
Speaker 1: how I made the team. That's why I started. I
Speaker 1: cut my teeth on the special teams. But to sixty
Speaker 1: seven didn't go in there as a special team player.
Speaker 1: You are to check my resumes. Started playing with me.
Speaker 1: To sixty seven, There've been thirty thousand men that played
Speaker 1: this game, coach this game, own team, being a general manager,
Speaker 1: thirty thousand on that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. No, I don't know what. To
Speaker 2: sixty seven what percent of thirty thousandars?
Speaker 1: But they're less than four hundred men that got a
Speaker 1: gold jacket A thirty thousands.
Speaker 3: I can tell you what. I can tell you what
Speaker 3: that is. You know I was a math major two.
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Just it's just Joe, it's tough, and I just I
Speaker 1: feel bad for the Browns fans because the one thing
Speaker 1: I know haven't played in Cleveland. No matter how bad
Speaker 1: they sucked, those fans still so came and sold out.
Speaker 1: Now a lot of times they might have had bags
Speaker 1: on their head, and they might have booed when things
Speaker 1: weren't going well, but they're out there tailgating knowing that
Speaker 1: their team gonna get the breaks beat off them.
Speaker 2: But they show up, they look bad.
Speaker 1: If any like you know, like certain fan bases on
Speaker 1: Joe just one time, Yeah, if Cleveland get an opportunity
Speaker 1: to say, man, we went to the super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: know everybody wants to win, but for those some of
Speaker 1: those fans to get an opportunity to see man, like
Speaker 1: I said, Brown's got some loyal ass fans.
Speaker 2: And I played them when I was in Denver.
Speaker 1: I went when they were at when they were old Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and I played them at Baltimore. Obviously they loved it Browns, man,
Speaker 1: they loved the Browns. But I ain't got no quarterback.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no quarterback. I don't care. I don't
Speaker 1: care how good your defense is not in today's game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, everybody saying what y'all did, Yeah with the
Speaker 1: Ravens in two thousand, it's twenty twenty five. That's damn
Speaker 1: near quarter century ago. Nobody's playing football like they played
Speaker 1: a quarter century ago.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the rules, the rules don't permit it.
Speaker 1: And guess what, you're playing a quarterback all that money,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna pay him to turn around and hand
Speaker 1: the ball off. It's look, they're gonna have to find
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They thought they had a quarterback with Jay,
Speaker 1: with Deshaun for whatever reason, it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: He's been injured. He showed the injury, he got.
Speaker 1: A McKinley's injury, and it seems like he's working his
Speaker 1: way back. I don't know if he's gonna come back
Speaker 1: this year. We'll see. Don't show without a quarterback, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna do nothing.
Speaker 3: You don't have a chance.
Speaker 4: I don't care. And yeah, it ain't even it ain't
Speaker 4: even about the Browns. That goes for sure. Until you
Speaker 4: figure out your quarterback position, you're not going to have
Speaker 4: any type of success. Now, you can have flashes of brilliants,
Speaker 4: you could have success maybe for a game, maybe two,
Speaker 4: but it's all about being consistent weekend and week out
Speaker 4: and having a chance at winning each week.
Speaker 3: Right now, they just don't have that. They don't have it.
Speaker 4: But they're gonna they gon'n they're gonna have They're gonna
Speaker 4: have games where they go out there and win. They're
Speaker 4: gonna have games but they go out there and flag.
Speaker 4: We're gonna throw for three hundred three TD you. We're
Speaker 4: gonna have games like that at some point this season.
Speaker 4: I guarantee that that's just that's just the way that
Speaker 4: that's just the way the floor of the game works,
Speaker 4: just in general.
Speaker 1: Well, they might win them games on play it on
Speaker 1: a Tuesday or Friday, and we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't. We don't have night capital all those days.
Speaker 2: Ah uh.
Speaker 1: But Kenvin Stefanski said after the game that he won't
Speaker 1: consider quarterback change for Week three. Before the game, Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter dropped the bomb. The Ravens were planning to draft
Speaker 1: shaduor Sanders in the fifth round with the one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty first pick. But before the Ravens could turn
Speaker 1: the cart in, should Door let it be known to
Speaker 1: Baltimore that he didn't want to he didn't want to
Speaker 1: be on the roster with Lamar, where he wouldn't have
Speaker 1: a chance to play anytime soon. Shador did not want
Speaker 1: to be drafted by Baltimore and preferred to end up
Speaker 1: in a place where he might have a better chance
Speaker 1: to play sooner. The Ravens instead drafted an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: Carson Vincent, with one hundred and forty first pick. I'm
Speaker 1: just go ahead. Schadul was asking about it after the game.
Speaker 1: My response says, I'm focused on the now. I don't
Speaker 1: really talk about anything in the past, and whatever happened
Speaker 1: in the past, it is, that's what it is. I'm
Speaker 1: more focused on it now. I'm more focused on how
Speaker 1: the game that we're just gonna have had and figuring
Speaker 1: out how to move forward from now. You wouldn't even
Speaker 1: believe my memory don't even go back that far. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember anything post draft. I remember I'm here,
Speaker 1: I go to practice every day, and it's a twenty
Speaker 1: four hour rule.
Speaker 2: It serves no purpose in my life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, we don't even have that kind of power
Speaker 4: coming into his draft though, as a player, you saying
Speaker 4: where you don't want to go, you don't have that
Speaker 4: kind of power.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't let me tell you something about the Ravens.
Speaker 1: I don't know should do a situation the Ravens.
Speaker 2: I can only speak to what I know. I know Ozzi,
Speaker 2: I know DaCosta, and I know the owner Steve Ashatti.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, when t O was supposed to go to
Speaker 1: the Ravens and he said he didn't want to.
Speaker 3: Go, he said he named Yeah.
Speaker 1: They said, you know what, don't worry about it, boo.
Speaker 1: The NFL and them, they worked out some type of
Speaker 1: agreement too.
Speaker 2: Ended up in feeling if he said this, they would
Speaker 2: have obliged him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I doubt it. Though I doubt it.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know what I would I would like to
Speaker 1: say more, but unfortunately, I think we should move on
Speaker 1: from this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it serves no I'll leave it at that. It
Speaker 2: serves no purpose.
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. Shout y'all deduce whatever y'all
Speaker 1: wanted to deduce from it. Bingles Beat the Jaggar thirty
Speaker 1: one twenty seven. Joe Burrow Joe.
Speaker 3: Wait who who?
Speaker 2: The Bingles beat the Jags?
Speaker 1: Thirty one twenty seven. Joe Burrow is deal told injury
Speaker 1: that could require surgery. Image of the Burrow left toe
Speaker 1: injury is being sent to notice foot specialists doctor Robert
Speaker 1: Anderson uh to be reviewed. According to Adam Sheefter, it's surgery,
Speaker 1: it's deemed necessary. It is expected to sideline Burrow for
Speaker 1: approximately three months.
Speaker 4: If the key word was if they sent the photo
Speaker 4: to the doctor, the doctor ain't no way and hell,
Speaker 4: he made no goddamn diagnosis this, this, this, that quick.
Speaker 3: He ain't made no diagnosis that quick.
Speaker 2: The doctor like the ex ray.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I don't I don't like.
Speaker 4: The way Adam Scheff and I don't like the way
Speaker 4: they're reporting stuff and and they they they talk about
Speaker 4: it could be grade three and he might need surgery.
Speaker 4: He might be out, he might be out three months. Listen,
Speaker 4: it could be grade two. Grade two ain't number three.
Speaker 4: Four weeks and you back out there.
Speaker 3: Great hold on Loo can finished. It could be grade one,
Speaker 3: and it's day to day with today's technology as advanced
Speaker 3: it's as technology is, and the treatments and the ways
Speaker 3: to get players back healthy and getting them back on
Speaker 3: the field much faster than when we were playing. We
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 4: And I don't like the fact that when they make
Speaker 4: these reports they say the worst case scenario.
Speaker 3: It ain't got to be What's what? Why you listen?
Speaker 2: Where you got this? Starting to ask you a question? Ojoe?
Speaker 2: Who reported this? Adam Schefter? Where you get from, Joe?
Speaker 2: Yell the chat? Where you get this from? That? It
Speaker 2: was even his toe? Where did you get this from? O? Joe?
Speaker 3: Hold on, wait, wait wait wait, let me let me
Speaker 3: before you before you go on. Can I say something
Speaker 3: real quick?
Speaker 4: When I saw Joe sit up on the sideline right,
Speaker 4: I mean on the field, when he turned over and
Speaker 4: the doctors came out and he got up, I knew
Speaker 4: his toe was hurt.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you why?
Speaker 4: When he got up to walk off, instead of walking normal,
Speaker 4: he was walking his left foot on his heel. So
Speaker 4: we didn't put no pressure on his to I say,
Speaker 4: you know what, man, he meet and mess no, no, no,
Speaker 4: because if it was arts, you wouldn't putt no pressure
Speaker 4: on the back of the hill.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm trying to say. When you walk
Speaker 3: like that, you don't let you push at the bottom.
Speaker 3: You don't let your toe your bottom.
Speaker 4: I said, God, damn, you know dislocated or jam? This
Speaker 4: told when he got tackled, he was he was facing
Speaker 4: front down right. Whoever let whatever lineman landed on him
Speaker 4: in the back, Jim the guy damn touring the goddamn ground.
Speaker 3: So I just I just.
Speaker 4: Don't like if you're gonna report something at least, so
Speaker 4: let me ask.
Speaker 1: You this, How did Adam Cheff to know they were
Speaker 1: sending it to not the foot special Robert Anderson?
Speaker 3: What I mean, obviously they let him know that, So
Speaker 3: what else did they know?
Speaker 2: What else did so they let him know that.
Speaker 3: No, listen, they did not know. They did not.
Speaker 4: There's no way that doctor, that foot specialist, gave him
Speaker 4: a diagnosis and god damn five six hours oo.
Speaker 2: No, but their doctors did.
Speaker 1: And that's why they send it to noted Robert Anderson
Speaker 1: for a second opinion.
Speaker 3: Second opinion. But I wait, let me let me finish, man,
Speaker 3: Let me let me text Joe, Let me text Burrow,
Speaker 3: Let me text Burrow. Listen, I can get it right
Speaker 3: from the horse's mouth. Hold on, let me do.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is, Oh, Joe, is that Look
Speaker 1: my brother had that injury, and he had and look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some guys that had that injury
Speaker 1: as time time had that injury in time. I've said
Speaker 1: he was never the same. Jonathan Ogden had that injury.
Speaker 1: He retired. Jack Youngblood had that injury. He retired. My
Speaker 1: brother had that injury. He shot that toe up every week.
Speaker 1: He ended up having to put a steel plate in
Speaker 1: there so wouldn't be in the toe, wouldn't be because
Speaker 1: you been as much.
Speaker 2: And he ended up.
Speaker 1: Having surgery after the season. And it was about three
Speaker 1: it was about three or four months.
Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, hold on, I'm texting Borough right now,
Speaker 4: and he gonna answer me.
Speaker 3: You're gonna answer me. But I see this. That's worst
Speaker 3: case scenario.
Speaker 4: Yeah, me, with what you're saying, what you're talking about,
Speaker 4: this is worst case scenario. And we talked about a quarterback.
Speaker 4: Were talking about a quarterback that is he he's somewhat
Speaker 4: of a dual threat. He has great, great pocket presence,
Speaker 4: he has great escapability. He's not Lamar Jackson, not Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: but he moved around the pocket. Now, I also want
Speaker 4: to know, and I want to add that Joe holds
Speaker 4: onto the ball too long.
Speaker 3: You got to know when the journey's over.
Speaker 4: I have to know when the journeys over, especially in
Speaker 4: that case, in that play right there, nobody's open. You
Speaker 4: know it's okay to go down it's okay to take
Speaker 4: that sack and live to see another down.
Speaker 1: It's hard because he wants to make he wants to
Speaker 1: make a play, Ojo.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 4: I know he wants to make a play. But again,
Speaker 4: now we're back on the table getting.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be oo. He gonna be injured. You resigned
Speaker 1: to that fact, Ojo. He's gonna be injured, Ojo. Every
Speaker 1: other year, he's gonna be injured. It's football. It's football.
Speaker 1: The game of football is a violent sport. Injuries happen.
Speaker 3: It's part. It's a part of the game.
Speaker 4: What you want to do is you want to minimize
Speaker 4: us the best way you can, the best way you can.
Speaker 3: And I would love for Joe to.
Speaker 4: Say, you know what, ain't nothing out there right now,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna take this sack, live
Speaker 4: the player.
Speaker 3: Let's get back.
Speaker 1: To Oh Joe, I agree with you. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing with a quarterback. What does the
Speaker 1: quarterback do he dropped back? What else do you have
Speaker 1: to do? Shift this motion? And so when you start
Speaker 1: messing with that foot, now you start messing with your mechanics. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the one thing you don't want to do is
Speaker 1: mess with those mechanics, because the one thing with quarterbacks
Speaker 1: try to try to prevent and stay out of.
Speaker 2: Is developing bad habits.
Speaker 1: And when you start having injury, then you guess what
Speaker 1: you do, Oh Joe, you develop bad habits.
Speaker 3: The bad habit to compensate for that area where it
Speaker 3: was hurt. I knew it's.
Speaker 1: Exactly I'm not. I'm not saying. I think you look
Speaker 1: at it like, Okay, how serious is the turf toe?
Speaker 1: They seem to think it's very serious. Now they probably
Speaker 1: X rayed. Okay, now they'll probably go get an them R.
Speaker 1: They'll send those images. They probably got most teams, most
Speaker 1: teams now stadiums are equipped with imaging.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've got that. We got it right there.
Speaker 2: Right, guess what right there is?
Speaker 1: They said he got doctor doctor Anderson. I think, if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, he's in Charlotte. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: he's in Charlotte. Right, he's in Charlotte, or is he
Speaker 1: he might be the team doctor for the Giants.
Speaker 2: I think he's in Charlotte.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: But anyway, listen, worst case scenario, I'm I'm optimistic.
Speaker 3: I'm optimistic. And let's say let's say let's say Joe.
Speaker 4: If anything, worst case scenario, not worst case, best case scenario,
Speaker 4: Joe missus three four weeks.
Speaker 3: I say, you come back Steelers October fifteen.
Speaker 1: Well, you said if he misses three or four weeks,
Speaker 1: he's not having the surgery.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that great. Listen.
Speaker 4: Worst case scenario is grade three. I need surgery. I'm
Speaker 4: out three months. But I don't have no problem with
Speaker 4: Browning coming in as my starter. I have no problem
Speaker 4: with that, Brownie. What can you do for us the
Speaker 4: next five weeks? Can you get us three? Can you
Speaker 4: get us the three and two? Can you get us
Speaker 4: the four and one? Make sure we're still in the hunt.
Speaker 4: Make sure we're still winning. Charlotte, Listen, you got all
Speaker 4: the talent around you. You got, you got all the
Speaker 4: pieces you need.
Speaker 1: That's what that's that's that's why I'm just talking about
Speaker 1: the turn toe. My brother had that turnte injury. If
Speaker 1: you uh that game, that his first playoff game. He
Speaker 1: ended up catching three touchdowns against Detroit at that turnte
Speaker 1: That's why he was running like he was running like
Speaker 1: he had a club foot. But all he did was
Speaker 1: shoot the toe up every week, and he went and played.
Speaker 1: Now you know, I don't know if they do that anymore,
Speaker 1: O Joe. Back then, that's what we did. That's what
Speaker 1: I did. And if I showed the injury, I'm shooting
Speaker 1: it up. Ain'tkle injury. I'm shooting it up. I'm playing.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be all right, guys.
Speaker 2: Guys know that.
Speaker 1: Because I had a conversation with it. Emmy little that said, boy,
Speaker 1: you crazy. He said nah. He like, nah, sharp, I ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't do them needles. I said, brother, you're a
Speaker 1: seven round draft pick. If i'd have got first round money,
Speaker 1: I might have thought long and hard about doing the needle.
Speaker 1: But severn round draft pick. Hey, hey, were you were
Speaker 1: your first couple of years, you only made one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah you hey, let me let me see it.
Speaker 3: Let me see a Joe checks.
Speaker 1: But y'all, I'm just I'm just trying to point out
Speaker 1: some guys that have had that Church toe injury. Jonathan Ogden,
Speaker 1: he was never the same. Jack Youngblood, just kid me.
Speaker 1: Let me tell me. Jack Lambert had that same injury.
Speaker 1: He ended up retiring time time will tell you he
Speaker 1: was never the same.
Speaker 5: Yea, he was, he was Charles Wilson, Charles Wolson had
Speaker 5: it too, had it he was?
Speaker 1: He was never he was never the same after that
Speaker 1: injury my brother had, like I said, he shot it
Speaker 1: up and he played. But it's gonna be very very
Speaker 1: interesting to see how that thing, how what plays out.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 3: Manam tripping. Man, you got me texting this. Man, it's
Speaker 3: twelve thirty at night in Cincinnati. I forgot. I'm way
Speaker 3: in Vegas. Man, I'm tripping.
Speaker 2: Uh, we're gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: We got Brown in that quarterback back and.
Speaker 2: Jake Brown and keep it can break Jake Brown and
Speaker 2: keep the Bengals afloat. I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonnaell you how you're gonna keephim flat right here?
Speaker 4: Watch this, I'm gonna tell you how. I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: You can hear me, you, Hey, y'all can see me.
Speaker 4: Brownie gonna come to the line like this, right, come boom,
Speaker 4: say if you're gonna drop down in the boxer, Chase Brown,
Speaker 4: baller right now, Chase Brown balling right, Chack.
Speaker 3: Gonna come out? Alert alert alert check.
Speaker 4: Check nigga, they got they got goddamn chasing to you
Speaker 4: against man and man bump and run.
Speaker 3: Hey, BROWNI gonna hit his hip like this. That means god, touchdown.
Speaker 3: Were good?
Speaker 2: We good?
Speaker 3: Were good.
Speaker 4: When you hey, listen, when you have when you have
Speaker 4: them kind of weapons around you. At times, it doesn't
Speaker 4: matter who's at the quarterback position. But Browning is capable
Speaker 4: of running the offense. We saw what he did when
Speaker 4: he came in last time. Burrow was hurt, but he
Speaker 4: was like he was out that dishing dealer. He was
Speaker 4: at that dishing dealer. And I'm talking like a like
Speaker 4: a like a Vegas like a Vegas car dealer.
Speaker 3: That's what he gonna do. I'm telling you, we good.
Speaker 3: Were good.
Speaker 2: Social media was not kind to Brian Thomas Jr. Day.
Speaker 2: They said he looked disinterested.
Speaker 1: One week after catching one fans on seven targets, Thomas
Speaker 1: had four catches on the team high twelve targets. Had
Speaker 1: a big drop on fourth down late in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I didn't get an opportunity to see this game.
Speaker 1: I was kind of going back, I think in the box,
Speaker 1: and so you know, I was kind of like all
Speaker 1: over the place. I'm trying to really focus on Dallas
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to focus on you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, O Joe, no doubt who's playing in
Speaker 1: that early that early window. That was okay, So what
Speaker 1: you think of Talk to me now.
Speaker 4: Listen, it's one of It's one of those games. It's
Speaker 4: one of those games. I want, I need to touch
Speaker 4: the ball, get me involved in the game. Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 4: Extreme success last year as a rookie.
Speaker 3: One of those games. He wasn't getting the target necessary.
Speaker 3: He felt like he wasn't being part of the game.
Speaker 4: That frustration, that anger and a ladd gets in the way,
Speaker 4: or when the ball does come your way, you get upset.
Speaker 1: Unk.
Speaker 4: It's happened to me before too. Uncle, you be wanting
Speaker 4: the ball, you get angry on the sideline saying thing
Speaker 4: with Kelsey. Today you saw Kelsey say I'm tired of
Speaker 4: this ship. And then when the balls came your way,
Speaker 4: you ain't ready drop them. You're angry, your mind, your
Speaker 4: mind ain't clear. That's what happened. That's what happened to
Speaker 4: be T today. That's what happened to be T today.
Speaker 4: Young bull. I know you're gonna see this lock back
Speaker 4: in and when the opportunities come, you make the most
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have games like this.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have games like this where the team is
Speaker 4: saying number seven ain't beating us.
Speaker 3: You not you not beating us, were not letting you
Speaker 3: get the ball.
Speaker 4: So when the opportunity do come, you got to make
Speaker 4: the most up, young bull. You're gonna have games like this.
Speaker 4: I know it's frustrating. I know you want to be
Speaker 4: a part of the offense. You're gonna have games like this.
Speaker 4: Get back to the drawing board. Lock in next week. Well, Trevor,
Speaker 4: gonna get to the ball. Don't worry about it. It's
Speaker 4: gonna happen. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I hate games like that, though, un I hate it.
Speaker 1: Oh Joey, And it happens that very way. You complain
Speaker 1: for the ball, and when they gave you the ball,
Speaker 1: the ball beat you up.
Speaker 3: Beat you right up, hey, like you never caught, like
Speaker 3: you never caught the ball.
Speaker 1: Today you're like boys so hard man. Hey, we've been there,
Speaker 1: We've been there. That's what always. I just kept my
Speaker 1: mind shut.
Speaker 3: Got I looved mm hmm. Did you see our defense today?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that Trey Henderson
Speaker 1: like what first at Yeah, he.
Speaker 4: Put the nail in the coffine. But the defense in
Speaker 4: general played well today. They weren't phenomenal, they weren't great.
Speaker 4: They were exactly what I said we need to be
Speaker 4: throughout the season.
Speaker 2: Just good what it had to.
Speaker 1: Be because your guys were you know, Brownie threw three picks,
Speaker 1: so they had the defense had to bow them back
Speaker 1: because he was turning the ball over Leftard, he was
Speaker 1: turning the ball over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna fix that. We're gonna fix that.
Speaker 3: You know what, We're gonna fix it.
Speaker 4: Listen, he don't get so many reps in practice. He
Speaker 4: only gets so many ughs in practice.
Speaker 3: The rep you do get is to prepare you for
Speaker 3: game situations.
Speaker 4: Like this, in case bur gets hurt. Boom, you're throwing picks. Okay,
Speaker 4: you know what I gotta get. I gotta I gotta
Speaker 4: get aclimated to game speed. I gotta get acclimated to
Speaker 4: tempo of the game, being back in the offense, getting
Speaker 4: in the swing of things.
Speaker 3: It's different. One thing is one thing to do it
Speaker 3: in practice, it's a different thing to do it in
Speaker 3: the game. I got my feet wet. Okay boom.
Speaker 4: Now next week I'm gonna dive in. I'm ready to
Speaker 4: get wet. I'm ready to get wet.
Speaker 3: Let's go. We got this.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you Joe gonna be back in four weeks,
Speaker 4: if anything, maybe five when we play the Jets of
Speaker 4: the Steelers.
Speaker 3: He'll be back then. Brian ay gonna get us about
Speaker 3: four and one, four on one of three and two.
Speaker 2: So at worst, calls for concern for Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 2: Not a soud boy slap. Oh no, oh no, he good,
Speaker 2: he good, he good.
Speaker 3: That's that boy. Now listen, understand his DNA, understand.
Speaker 4: His makeup, his skill set, the Jaguars, understand what they
Speaker 4: have and seth He good, he good, And he's an
Speaker 4: LSU tiger.
Speaker 2: You know he good? Hell?
Speaker 3: Malie Naples mad last week the same way, the.
Speaker 2: Same way, yeah.
Speaker 3: The same way.
Speaker 2: He was pissed.
Speaker 3: Look what he did today? One bad game?
Speaker 2: That m you good.
Speaker 1: There was a lot made of Trevor Lawrence's exchange with
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen. It was like it seemed like col would say,
Speaker 1: hit him in the chests at Lark right.
Speaker 2: That would have looked like I don't know, like I
Speaker 2: said I tried.
Speaker 1: I really try not to read lipso choke because I
Speaker 1: don't want to be I don't want to be wrong.
Speaker 2: But I did. I did see Trevor Lawrence do this,
Speaker 2: and I know what that means.
Speaker 3: Right right, come on with that.
Speaker 1: Either shut up, believe me a lord, I ain't paying
Speaker 1: you know, tention either one stop it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh dang? Hey, who the who the Bangals play are
Speaker 3: next week?
Speaker 2: On? Ask who they play next week? Play the Vikes
Speaker 2: in Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Oh man, we're finna wash them. Well, we're finna washed them.
Speaker 4: We're finla watch well, we're finna washed the Vikings, especially
Speaker 4: after the day expect with the way our defense is playing.
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, I know you're gonna see this boy.
Speaker 4: You ain't catching Nothaniel every playing in Minnesota, Every playing
Speaker 4: in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Hey, Chase had himself a day fourteen for a buck
Speaker 1: sixty five in a tub on sixteen targets.
Speaker 3: Come on, now, come on.
Speaker 4: Now, you gotta feed the beast. We talking about the
Speaker 4: greatest bangling franchise here. Yeah, it don't matter who the
Speaker 4: quarterback is. That's why I say we're gonna be all right.
Speaker 4: T Higgins was cutting up to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a little while. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: He look, I don't know what they were doing. So y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all just gonna let y'all just gonna let Chase just
Speaker 1: catch all the ball T like if y'all.
Speaker 2: Double it, they throw me the ball?
Speaker 3: Hold on, how you gonna stop it?
Speaker 4: Because they put Chase all over the place. Oh you
Speaker 4: want to double chase wherever you go? Well, T gonna Okay,
Speaker 4: I take my chance with T. Which one wasn't a
Speaker 4: triple crown?
Speaker 1: Which one is this thought of as the best receiving
Speaker 1: in football. Okay, let me take him away.
Speaker 4: A nickel, ain't too far behind T? Too far behind?
Speaker 4: TI can do some nice stuff too. Man, Well, we
Speaker 4: ain't gonna do that. We ain't gonna downplay once.
Speaker 2: Stop it. Hey, T Higgin is phenomenal. He ain't one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one and one has got a chance to be an
Speaker 2: all time great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm okay, I understand what you hey, I understand
Speaker 4: what you see.
Speaker 1: That's what he's not gonna do. Take him away, Okay,
Speaker 1: make T Higgins. I'm gonna make T. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: T can't, but I want to see it for a
Speaker 1: game with two. I know what Chase can do.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know what ticket do. I'm telling you
Speaker 3: what he could do. I didn't see any with my
Speaker 3: own side. He gonna top you every time.
Speaker 1: So in other words, he's the equivalent. So another words,
Speaker 1: what you're telling me is that I didn't Yes, you did.
Speaker 3: No, I did not.
Speaker 2: I said I know what Chase can do. So you
Speaker 2: said T. Higgins can do what Chase can do. That's
Speaker 2: what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Oh, they two completely different skill sets.
Speaker 1: Come on, now his skill set is it the equivalent
Speaker 1: and his own skill set?
Speaker 2: Is he the equivalent of T Higgins? I mean of Chase?
Speaker 2: That's my point.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a guy that won the triple crown
Speaker 1: away enforced the No matter what you say, Higgins is
Speaker 1: the B side, just like Canelo last night was the
Speaker 1: A side and Bud was the B side.
Speaker 2: Higgins is the B side to Chase.
Speaker 4: No, receive it one A and receive a one B
Speaker 4: period and you know what we're gonna show you. I
Speaker 4: like what you're saying because you know, I'm a little
Speaker 4: nervous to him. You know what, let me let me
Speaker 4: I'm a little nervous. I'm gonna tell you why I'm nervous.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you why I'm nervous.
Speaker 2: What's you're nervous about?
Speaker 4: Because we were planning the Viking Wait, I I know
Speaker 4: I didn't think about it. We plan against Brian Flore's defense,
Speaker 4: and you know what Brian floor is do. Hey, Brian
Speaker 4: Flores has all these exotic defenses, stunts, blitzes, people coming
Speaker 4: from everywhere and can it can be somewhat overwhelming and
Speaker 4: confusing for a quarterback that's.
Speaker 3: Not used to seeing it. Brother Browning has to deal
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 4: If I'm Zach Taylor, I want to put Brother Browning
Speaker 4: and I gotta stand up because I'm excited.
Speaker 3: If I'm back Zach, I'm Zach Taylor.
Speaker 4: I need to put Brother Browning in a in a
Speaker 4: great situation and getting him in rhythm.
Speaker 2: You gotta run the ball.
Speaker 4: With the run the ball, get Chase brown on, get
Speaker 4: Chase brown going. Once we get Chase going, Chase brown going,
Speaker 4: then we could go.
Speaker 3: To the passing game. A little small stuff under slants,
Speaker 3: quick throws, get Browning and rhythm.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 3: If if we get the if we get the we
Speaker 3: get the run game going, then we hit him with
Speaker 3: the play action like this.
Speaker 6: Boom Chase t Well, we talk about Mitchell, but and
Speaker 6: you seen Mitchell Tinsley. You saw Mitchell Tinsley one hand
Speaker 6: catching the ends all to day the highlight.
Speaker 3: Stop playing with the rookie. Man. Man, we're gonna we're
Speaker 3: gonna be all right. I'm telling you. I'm telling you man,
Speaker 3: we might sco we might put thirty five on the bikers.
Speaker 2: Man. Okay, stop playing what all right? Hey I was here.
Speaker 1: But another words. T Higgins is the A side along
Speaker 1: with Chase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been that.
Speaker 4: I told you that. I told it a long time ago.
Speaker 4: There are very few teams in the NFL that have
Speaker 4: two number one receivers. The Bangles are one of them.
Speaker 4: The Eagles might be another team.
Speaker 2: I think Higgins is phenomenal, but he not the A side.
Speaker 4: Give me another team to have two number one. Give
Speaker 4: me another team, got to no more receivers?
Speaker 1: Come on that, don't do it. I guess you could
Speaker 1: say you can say Miami with Wadle in Tyreek. Okay,
Speaker 1: you could say you can say the Rams with pooking
Speaker 1: the cool and and and and Davante and.
Speaker 3: Cooking the night. Baby, you cooking the night.
Speaker 2: You're cooking cowboys. You want to say pickings and I
Speaker 2: like it. Yeah, it's a bull. Yes here