WEBVTT - A True Crime Special: The Tammy Sytch Interview

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, you're look you are listening eyes up here

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<v Speaker 1>from the iHeart Radio Network or wherever you get your

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<v Speaker 1>podcast with me with my co host Chad Chad. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>was Christmas. Merry Christmas. How was your holiday?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you get? It?

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas? I got a lot. I'm loving that.

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<v Speaker 3>This Christmas week has been very merry and full of cheer,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm glad be spending it with you today.

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<v Speaker 2>This very merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Treek today post Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes yeah, post Christmas Day, December twenty sixth, For those

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<v Speaker 3>who need to check your calendar.

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<v Speaker 2>The twenty fifth is yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to tous sometimes a day it's okay in together.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in the Queen's Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they must shower you with gifts and food

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<v Speaker 3>and all the trimming, so you know, I could see

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<v Speaker 3>how you get confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some really good gifts. I got to go

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<v Speaker 1>to my great niece's house yesterday. They were hosting, and

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<v Speaker 1>all we had to bring was dessert, which was very easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even have to cook, and I got some

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff. I really wanted a Donald Duck hoodie zip

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<v Speaker 1>up hoodie for our upcoming Disney trip. So I told

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<v Speaker 1>my husband, this is what I want. So I got that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a cute women's eagle shirt because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the men's shirts are balky, but this one's

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<v Speaker 1>really cute for I'm fitting love it. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good stuff. So it was a good day,

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<v Speaker 1>and my kids were happy with their presence. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just looking forward to the new year, and with twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four has the bring for us, so it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna be super busy in twenty twenty four. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>really looking forward to it. You keep booking dates left

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<v Speaker 3>and right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean so far there there have been several dates

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<v Speaker 1>that have come in, and I'm very grateful for the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get out there and work, even in the

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<v Speaker 1>I think I mentioned this in the month of March

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<v Speaker 1>on book three weekends, so that doesn't really happen that often.

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<v Speaker 1>So and and if I play my cards right, there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot more that's gonna get booked. So

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<v Speaker 1>as always, I'll keep everybody post it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to work now while I can, while

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<v Speaker 1>ECW is still hot, while people are still interested. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be eighty three walking into a convey

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no disrespect to those who do, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that. You know, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two next year. I think I got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of good years left in me, especially if I take

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<v Speaker 1>care of myself. So you know, I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of good stuff ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, if you were fifty, if you were eighty three

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<v Speaker 3>going into a convention, would you still strut like like

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<v Speaker 3>Francine would?

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<v Speaker 1>I would try my damnedest. I would get my walker

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<v Speaker 1>and like every once in a while go like, pick

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<v Speaker 1>up my walker and do a little kick, a little shimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>little shake.

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<v Speaker 2>How about the leather pants? Could the leather pants still

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<v Speaker 2>be a thing?

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<v Speaker 1>My ass can fit into them? I would still rock them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, who knows what the hell I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look like at eighty three. I hope I'm alive at

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three, you know I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I was this close. I wanted to get Liz a

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<v Speaker 3>pair of leather pants for Christmas. I told you sure time,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I had them in the cart.

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't pull the trigger because I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>where where's she going to wear them?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? You guys go to like comedy clubs and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't have anything like on a horizon, so

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<v Speaker 3>they just I buy them for.

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<v Speaker 1>Them to sit, so she wears it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, before I book something, you know, I will get them.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, I'm not not going to get

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<v Speaker 3>them for them to sit. I'll get them before we

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<v Speaker 3>do something. But I think leather pants are in my future,

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<v Speaker 3>not for me, but for her.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they make your ass look like a peach.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's why I would love to add them

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<v Speaker 3>to her repertoire.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, So yeah, I love them. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's another thing I was thinking of. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I need I want to lose some weight

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<v Speaker 1>because I think I had mentioned, like the birth control

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm one made me gain five pounds. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of frustrated right now. So I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>holding off until next year to buy clothes for these

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<v Speaker 1>conventions and shows that I'm going for it because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very hopeful that I can lose five to ten pounds

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<v Speaker 1>by then because I think I'll be off the pills

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully once I'm off, I can drop the weight.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really frustrating, Like, you know, you work so

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<v Speaker 1>hard in the gym and you're doing your cardio and

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're lifting, and then you go on this scale

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<v Speaker 1>and you're five pounds heavier and it's not muscle. What

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<v Speaker 1>the hell is going on? So a little pissed off

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<v Speaker 1>about that. But I'm you know, I'm fighting a good fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get there and buy WrestleMania weekend. Hopefully my

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<v Speaker 1>body will be where it needs to be. I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>starve myself one I'll see what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, either way, you know, get the job done.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever goes one way, the other root goes the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to do that because I love food.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I ate yesterday, you know, because there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much good food on the holidays. But it's it's rough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's rough when a salad even blows you up. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something going on. I'm still seeing the gi I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in neurologies like there's so many things going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we don't have to talk about that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>here for a reason today and we're diving into something different.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the suggestion by a friend, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a I'd say it's a hot topic right

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<v Speaker 1>now because this just happened like within the month. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna dive into an interview that we did in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and what was it twenty one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you thought it was twenty one, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>With Tammy Sich. And I really think this was the

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<v Speaker 1>last interview that she did. I don't think she did

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<v Speaker 1>any others after us, before the unfortunate incident in Florida happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna go over this video. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to watch the whole thing, maybe just certain

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<v Speaker 1>clips or whatever and go through some calm and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because it's almost two years. It is two

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<v Speaker 1>years since we talked to her last, right, wasn't this

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<v Speaker 1>at the.

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<v Speaker 2>End of the you know what, I'm actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>pull up the exact date.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have I'm thinking it was later in the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is actually July of twenty twenty one, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so that was, you know a little over then two

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<v Speaker 3>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, because I knew we were planning to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Russel Caid together and that is the weekend of

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving right in November, So this was like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>months before, and we sat down and we talked to her,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I got a lot of backlash from

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<v Speaker 1>fans and from viewers for even conducting this video. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can give my analysis. You can chime in when

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<v Speaker 1>you want to. We can break it down and go

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<v Speaker 1>over my thought process, you know. But I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say for the record, before we even start, I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>in my heart thought that she was on the street

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<v Speaker 1>and narrow and that she learned her lesson. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not justifying anything that happened in the past, what she

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<v Speaker 1>did before this. I'm not saying that's okay. What I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is I thought she was starting over, like with

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<v Speaker 1>a clean slate, and I truly and honestly believed that

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<v Speaker 1>she was going to be okay. So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get that out there because there was so many comments.

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<v Speaker 1>We had almost four hundred comments on this video, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were so many comments telling me that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you sitting there talking to this person, Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you laughing with her? Why are you giving her

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<v Speaker 1>the time of day. I've known her for decades and

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<v Speaker 1>decad She's a dear friend. Even with that said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not justifying anything that she's ever done to don't take

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<v Speaker 1>it the wrong way. I still believe in my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard for me, this is hard for me to

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<v Speaker 1>even talk about because I wanted the best for her

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<v Speaker 1>and I did believe at that moment in my heart

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<v Speaker 1>that she was going to do the right thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say that before we get into it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to make that clear because I got so

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<v Speaker 1>much backlash on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember at the time a ton on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>When we posted the interview, there was a ton of comments.

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't really posting a lot on YouTube at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>but we posted a preview of the episode. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of comments on that not favorable and saying

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<v Speaker 3>why are you giving her a platform?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you doing this? And you defended this is

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<v Speaker 2>my friend having a discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>And as you'll see as we get through parts of this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it goes back and forth, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it and see how you go back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>between your Barbara Walters esque questions and your friendly banter.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and it's it's a great kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>almost split personality you have to go through to get

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<v Speaker 3>through this, you know, hour which we also do have

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<v Speaker 3>this hour in our iHeartRadio podcast library here, which we

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<v Speaker 3>will point in the direction of later.

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<v Speaker 2>On as well. So join us here as we start to.

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<v Speaker 3>Dive into this little interview, with stoppages along the way

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<v Speaker 3>to comment.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, and let me really really quickly, if this

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<v Speaker 1>was just all doom and gloom, I don't think she

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<v Speaker 1>would have wanted to sit and talk to me, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, if it was just me

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<v Speaker 1>just saying how horrible of a person you are and

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, would you sit through that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think anybody would want to sit there

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<v Speaker 1>and be be rated by a friend or a colleague.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me just you know, I was trying. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to make light of anything that she's ever done.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't the goal. I was just trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get the good out of her, you know, tell some

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<v Speaker 1>stories that maybe no one ever heard before, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people might be interested in learning because we all know

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<v Speaker 1>about the train wreck side. But there was so much

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<v Speaker 1>good that I've experienced with her, and that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to bring out. And I again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to justify her having what aduis or killing somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was before the gentleman died, so keep that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind as well. But the hate that I infuriated

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<v Speaker 1>me because this was just me sitting down with a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And you'll see how uncomfortable I am and

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<v Speaker 1>how I try to to bring back the fact we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on the street and narratory. You're gonna be good, Tammy,

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<v Speaker 1>You're you know, we're never going to go back to jail. Tammy.

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<v Speaker 1>You can run it and you'll see what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But you keep that in mind as you're listening before

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<v Speaker 1>you judge me or throw stones at me.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So, Queen of Extreme, if you need me

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<v Speaker 3>to stop, raise your hand or say pause, or say idiot,

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<v Speaker 3>click the stop the video, and I will do whatever

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<v Speaker 3>you need. Or I will also tell myself idiot, stopped

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<v Speaker 3>the video. If I need to come, might I say

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<v Speaker 3>the chats are looking very nice in this way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to call you an idiot. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call you a schmuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, schmuck, hey, schmuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know my daughter heard that on one of the

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<v Speaker 2>videos and she left.

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<v Speaker 1>She told me that was a naughty word. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not to say it in your house anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she did right, Yeah, because you had a

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<v Speaker 3>laugh once you heard you saying on another one of

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<v Speaker 3>the videos.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, how are you? She's leaving already, She's gone, my son,

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<v Speaker 1>natural light, It'll make you ever vencent.

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<v Speaker 2>It will chase people off until I start talking.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just got to keep my mouth, sweetheart. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been a hot minute since I've seen that face.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? Yes? Well, first of.

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<v Speaker 4>All, get all dressed up. All my clothes are in storage,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm gonna t shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>You look beautiful as always.

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<v Speaker 4>Tomorrow to get some of it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So listen, should we should we talk about the elephant

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<v Speaker 1>in the room vaguely? Because is this your first interview? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so your first interview, first one since the vacation. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm honored I choose me, although I did badger her

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<v Speaker 1>and I threatened her and told her I will never

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<v Speaker 1>speak to her again.

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<v Speaker 5>If she knows, Yeah, you did, he threatened me. She said,

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<v Speaker 5>I will never to you again. Lyss I absolutely have

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<v Speaker 5>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You not know me?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>My time?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to do it first.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very they're very effective, so you know, everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>the situation that you were in, right. Unfortunately, I asked,

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<v Speaker 1>was this time different than the others? Did you go

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<v Speaker 1>in with the different.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this, this was totally different. I got a driving on.

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<v Speaker 5>A suspension and I'm suspended from the old DUIs. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's a mandatory six months in jail on New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long were you in there for? Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I did my six months for that, but that violated

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<v Speaker 5>the probation I was still on in Pennsylvania, so I

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<v Speaker 5>had to max out that time and that was matched

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<v Speaker 5>out to May twenty first, so I did just over

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<v Speaker 5>ten months and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm all done with that probation in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't do anything else to me.

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<v Speaker 5>That five years of them sending me back all the

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<v Speaker 5>time for sneezing in the wrong direction is done.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh sorry, okay, are you clearing? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I just sneezing in the wrong direction. That's why she

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<v Speaker 1>keeps going back to jail for sneezing in the wrong direct.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is where it gets tricky. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the comments say that she's making light of this

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<v Speaker 1>whole situation. A lot if one word to go in

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<v Speaker 1>our comments section, and read the four hundred comments that

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<v Speaker 1>are there. A lot of people are saying it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a joke to her, she's not taking things seriously, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see as the as it progresses. I don't When

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<v Speaker 1>she said that, that triggered me because I'm like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't go to jail for sneezing in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done things that are not supposed to happen. You're

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<v Speaker 1>breaking the ball. That's why you went to jail. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was my first thought that came up. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>only two minutes into this video, so now I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to sit here for an hour and try

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out a way to get her to I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>have some remorse and not make it so light hearted. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, I'm nervous about this because she's my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to piss her off. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to upset her. But in the same token, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>tough love, like I'm trying to tell her this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing, Like you're screwing up and we need

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<v Speaker 1>to fix it. So right off the bat, that comment

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<v Speaker 1>triggered me. Just just letting you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, Yeah, my PM in Pennsylvania was horrible. And it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter what I would do.

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<v Speaker 5>If I was a half an hour late for an appointment,

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<v Speaker 5>she would violate me and stick me in jail.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just bullshit. But I'm done with that. It's

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<v Speaker 4>all over done.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're done. You're done with PA. What about New Jersey?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you good in New Jersey?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good here, You're good everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't drive.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't drive, Okay, we're good if I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>If I do, when I get pulled over, it'll be

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<v Speaker 5>another mandatory six months.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're not going to get pulled over again, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know we're not going to do that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna fuck around with all that stuff. That's done.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the problem was last year I got a really

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<v Speaker 5>pretty Jaguar F type convertible and I had to drive it.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you're smarter than this.

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<v Speaker 4>I know. That's why I'm not driving now. Uber is

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<v Speaker 4>my new best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well let's stop. So the comment that we got,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the comments that we got is for this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark great here timestamp when she said that Uber is

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<v Speaker 1>her new best friend. You know, she got some problems.

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<v Speaker 1>She did not stick to her words and yet did

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible choice again by drunk driving with a suspended license.

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<v Speaker 1>That's addiction and that's hard to overcome. People have been

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<v Speaker 1>sympathetic to her, and she blew that all away. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the comment I just commented back. It's sad to

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<v Speaker 1>say you got a nice, pretty car and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to drive it when you know you shouldn't be driving.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a chilling comment.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, No, No, so right then and there, And

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell that I am trying without being a bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>I am trying to let her know, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>can you see.

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<v Speaker 3>That or is it just me you are I've stayed

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<v Speaker 3>very steadfast in my belief of your just strong stance

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<v Speaker 3>as a friend in this whole entire process.

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<v Speaker 1>Then who loves this person and wants the best for them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, a friend that does not give up on another

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<v Speaker 3>friend and that you don't enable a friend. You give

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<v Speaker 3>a friend tough love, and you you try to steer

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<v Speaker 3>them in the right direction. This is what I see

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<v Speaker 3>as a friend of a friend. Okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that that I've said over and over is

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<v Speaker 1>you have to learn from your mistakes. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>learned and you're moving on and you're you're being the

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<v Speaker 1>best you you can be. That's all anybody can ever ask. Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>when you went in jail this time? Yeah, uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what number it was, But when you went

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<v Speaker 1>in this time, and I love you, I can teach you.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go in with a different mindset? Like, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know the first time, I'm sure you were scared shitless.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would be. I would be any time

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not that bad. Give me, give me an

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<v Speaker 1>example of Okay, give me an example.

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<v Speaker 5>To be a lot worse on TV than it actually is.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's it's really not that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>As somebody who's never been to jail. I'm just gonna say,

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<v Speaker 3>I never want to go. So whether it's not that

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<v Speaker 3>bad or it's really good, I never want to find out.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's just me saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the same with me and a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>comments that we got, because people are still pulling this

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<v Speaker 1>video up now, a lot of the comments are saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>jail and prison are two different things. So if she

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<v Speaker 1>thinks jail was a party, prison is not, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to learn the difference. That's now. These are people

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<v Speaker 1>who are claiming they went to jail and went to prison,

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<v Speaker 1>like fans that are saying, I've been there. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know again, why joke about it's not that bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it is unless you're just this big, lazy

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<v Speaker 1>sloth who likes to lay on a mattress that's this thin,

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<v Speaker 1>eat junk and do nothing all day and be isolated.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's your thing, then I guess it's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But it would It would tear me apart to have

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<v Speaker 1>to live like that for years and years. So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't understand this logic at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, continue, it's doable.

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<v Speaker 4>You can make it. Stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop me, I'm gonna kill her. Give me an example

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<v Speaker 1>of a typical day. Do you get woken up at

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<v Speaker 1>the crack of dawn by a warden threatening you no, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you tell me you don't even have to wake

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<v Speaker 5>up if you don't want to. But see, I'm diabetic,

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<v Speaker 5>so they would come and wake me up before thirty

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<v Speaker 5>every morning to do a sugar check and to give

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<v Speaker 5>me a sun four thirty every morning.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I had to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's a medical thing, so you have to

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<v Speaker 5>do it. Then I'd go back to sleep for a

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<v Speaker 5>couple hours, and then usually around eight o'clock is when

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<v Speaker 5>they pop your door and you can go out and

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<v Speaker 5>watch TV, and you know, breakfast comes and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't eat a lot of their food though, because

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<v Speaker 4>the food's horrible. But yeah, and then but you don't.

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<v Speaker 5>All you basically do is watch TV, play cards. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>you can spell they if you want to.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 5>Girls who color, like those adult coloring books that they're

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<v Speaker 5>there coloring all they provide, like, no, you have to

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<v Speaker 5>have that stuff sent in.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's no like where I was anywhere, there's no

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<v Speaker 5>like strict format of things you have to do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just yeah, you can be lazy or you can

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<v Speaker 4>do something.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually got a job in there so I can

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<v Speaker 5>have something to do. So I was, and I got

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<v Speaker 5>the best job in the jail because they trusted me.

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<v Speaker 5>They knew I wasn't going to like run, so I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I was cleaning the warden's office and the lobby and

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<v Speaker 5>I got to take the garbage out by myself into

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<v Speaker 5>the parking lot where all the cars are because they

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<v Speaker 5>trusted me that I was going to come back and

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<v Speaker 5>not like run down the story.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, so fa.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was a comment that from the beginning was

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<v Speaker 3>very very scrutinized because people looked at that as why was.

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<v Speaker 2>She getting special treatment?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it because she had, you know, a little celebrity,

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<v Speaker 3>was it, you know, because she is a little more

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<v Speaker 3>you know, forthcoming, Like why why was she getting these

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<v Speaker 3>great jobs?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people also commented that they thought she

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<v Speaker 1>was lying.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's another I didn't even think of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of people said she's lying. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way they would let a prisoner or someone in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, walk out to where they

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<v Speaker 1>can escape, which again I don't know. I wasn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>say this on all of my videos. I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she did tell me before, like some times

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<v Speaker 1>when she would go back into jail, because she was

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<v Speaker 1>there multiple times, people would be like, hey, Sonny, like

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>they knew her, like hey, girls, you're back or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe there were a couple of the wardens or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what they're called, the people who

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<v Speaker 1>work there. Maybe they did have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity crush on her, and maybe she did get

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<v Speaker 1>special treatment. But I know a lot of the comments

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<v Speaker 1>said they thought she was straight up lying.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, we'll never know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was one part I remember specifically from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>People.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my face says it all like, I know you

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 1>guys can't see it, and you should go back and

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>watch this on YouTube. But my facials are just like, please, girl, please, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, let this run a little bit more about the jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we'll move forward a little bit more in

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<v Speaker 3>the interview.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, I had a job.

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<v Speaker 1>You're making time out. You're taking the trash outside by

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to a parking lot. Is there? I envision a

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<v Speaker 1>big gate with barbed wire that there.

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<v Speaker 5>Is, But I go out the front lobby doors because

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<v Speaker 5>I had all access, because they trusted.

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<v Speaker 1>Well she Of course you have all access. Why if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to run? Are you able to scale this

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<v Speaker 1>wall and.

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<v Speaker 4>Try where I was?

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<v Speaker 5>There were no when I was going out to take

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<v Speaker 5>the garbage out, There's no walls. It's just the parking

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<v Speaker 5>lot on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have ran. You could have ran for your life. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I could have walked away.

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<v Speaker 5>They probably wouldn't have realized I was gone for like

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<v Speaker 5>twenty minutes, thirty minutes, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Do it because if you get it, if you get

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<v Speaker 4>an escape charge, it's like seven years in jail. So

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want it.

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<v Speaker 1>But here day, I mean, you're you're a very likable girl.

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I've known you for years, but I wouldn't trust you

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<v Speaker 1>taking a sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>And where the parking lot is.

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 5>It's where all the CEO's park and all visitors park

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was very easy.

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<v Speaker 5>If somebody wanted to drive up, open a car door,

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 5>you can dive in and boom, you'd begune.

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 4>Nobody would even know.

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Are you in an orange jumpsuit? No? What are you wearing?

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Are you wearing like a bikini? Like what is going

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<v Speaker 1>on in these prisons?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe I would have gone out sooner, But no, you

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<v Speaker 5>wear this like alpha.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like scrubs. It looks like medical scrubs.

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, like like a hospital scrub.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, see I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking you're in all orange, you're shackled, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>big ball on your leg or you know, the color

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<v Speaker 1>chained together, just getting.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a burgundy color. So it looked like it looks

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<v Speaker 5>like you nurse. If you didn't look close enough, it

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<v Speaker 5>looked like a nurse.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this the same jail that you were in before?

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<v Speaker 5>M hm, So not the Pennsylvania one. I mean I

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 5>was in Pennsylvania before, but this is the Jersey jail

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 5>that I was in before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were in Okay, So when you walk in,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know anyone.

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<v Speaker 5>No, this time, I saw some people that were there

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<v Speaker 5>the last time. So you have friends, well, I wouldn't

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 5>call them friends, acquaintances, jail acquaintances, jail buddies.

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 3>All right, we don't you know, if you have jail buddies,

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 3>that's that's not really something that you want. Maybe on

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 3>the outside, if you see somebody at Walmart, Okay, you

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't really have jail buddies.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, she's going back to the same jail,

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>and that's what my point earlier was. When she walked in,

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<v Speaker 1>people remembered her, knew who she was. Whether it would

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>have been another in me or you know, the people

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<v Speaker 1>who guard I would assume because the span of her

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<v Speaker 1>going back, I mean, wasn't it really short, like she

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>she got out of jail and then she went back,

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and then got out and then she went back. It

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>could be that there's people serving years and years there,

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>so she could have left and then went back, and

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like the same people behind bars, you know what

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like that's a possibility or it's the same.

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh are they called wardens? Like what are they called?

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know, jail guards? I don't know, Okay,

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>correction officer could be the same people working there that

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>recognize her. I guess it's a good thing to have

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>friends on the inside, you know. And maybe what she

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>said prior is true. Maybe because they knew who she was,

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>she did get perks. But I just find it hard

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>to believe that they would just let somebody go out

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the the main door where they could just escape. Yeah,

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>but kind of jail, what is that?

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>That's much like something on the Simpsons.

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 3>It's a joke on the Simpsons that there's a revolving door,

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 3>you know where they.

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Just come out. They go, hey, you promised to come back, Like, yeah,

0:28:59.080 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I mean, do they do this for murderers and

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>for you know, people like really hardcore criminals.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Hey, rapists, just promise not to rape anybody when you

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 3>go out forbid.

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like, that's that's scary to me that they you know,

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you could become friends with somebody in there and then

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you get these perks and you're just allowed to walk

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>out the door. I don't find that. Uh, I don't

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>know that. That scares me. That makes me nervous that

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>anyone could just escape. What does that say for our system?

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Not much? So I this this bothers me, should bother you.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Too, Yeah, that's what is? What does that say about

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 2>the was it was.

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 3>This new Jersey that she's talking about, the new Jersey

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>correctional system.

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>That not much, not much at all. I don't like it.

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 3>So moving forward a little bit up the timeline here

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 3>in the you uh, she now starts to talk about how, yes,

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 3>we've glamorized her stay a little bit in the interview

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 3>and talked about perks that she has. So now she's

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 3>going to talk about a few of the things maybe

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 3>not so perkable in her stay.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 5>Okay, we're goofing around about it, laughing about it, glamorizing it,

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 5>but it's not glamor glamorous at all. I mean, you

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 5>have the worst products in the world. It's like dollar

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<v Speaker 5>store shampoos and stuff like that.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>You have to buy alcohol products girl mental health.

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 5>No, but I'm saying that the cruis your mental health

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 5>because you're using all this like this, these horrible products,

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 5>and your hair gets shitty and your skin gets shitty,

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 5>and you look in the mirror, which isn't even a mirror.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 4>It's like this polish.

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't, okay, excuse me. What's screwed with your mental

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>health is being in jail. The fact that you are

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>in jail screws with your mental health, not your dollar

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>store shampoo. I cannot with this. Look at my face?

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Can you see her?

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:12.479
<v Speaker 2>I can see it.

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening, please go type in Tammy Sitch's list interview.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>My facials are worth the watch. I am so annoyed

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>at this point. I'm just like, I'm trying to make

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>it a point to talk about mental health. And my

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>question was legit, you kind of you missed my question.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was something like, how does this mess

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>with your mind? How does this affect your mental health?

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>And you went right into her answer and she talks

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>about dollar store products. Yeah, messing with her mental health,

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>but not being in jail. That's perfectly fine. It's the

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>products and the shitty mirror because it's not really a mirror.

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like a foil reflection or whatever she's come on.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot agree with this statement. God forbid, I'm in jail.

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>That's going to screw with my brain and my mental health.

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>At this point, I don't care what I look like.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if I'm using dollar General shampooy conditioner combined.

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Who cares. I care about being there and getting out

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:32.479
<v Speaker 1>and being a better person. I again, is she is

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>she just saying this to be funny, trying to cover

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>up real emotion that she doesn't want to show, because

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I didn't think she was gonna sit

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>there and break down and cry. That's not Tammy. That's

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>never been Tammy, you know what I mean. Like she

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't she doesn't really want to wear her heart on

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>her sleeve or show like emotion unless she got to

0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a breaking point. You know. She was always like a

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>tough New Jersey chick, you know what I mean, rying

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>off her back didn't bother her, like, she just would

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>laugh things off. And I feel like she's putting on

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a show when in reality, I think it was literally

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>eating her alive, and she just didn't want to show

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>it to me or to anybody, you know, And I

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>was pretty close with her at this point. So I

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>was getting annoyed because I feel like there's more to

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>it than she's letting on, and I feel like she

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>was holding back and it's not just for the sake

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>of the interview. It's for the sake of her mental health.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.239
<v Speaker 1>You have to let go. You have to admit when

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, you have to admit you have a problem,

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>because if you don't, it's gonna eat you up and

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>you're never gonna get better. And that's what I was

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>just trying to tell her, like, you know, this is

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>not okay. We need to switch this around, and you're

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be much better. You still are young, you still

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>have your whole life ahead at you. That was my point,

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't get it through her thick friggin head.

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm trying to run this as a very

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 3>serious topic, but I could not help but laughing at

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 3>looking at your face on our live broadcast here as

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at you on this side and.

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Looking at you on the pause screen.

0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry.

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's incredible.

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>It's frustrating because I love her and I don't care.

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't care when people get mad at me for

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>saying that I love the girl even though she probably

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>hates me. Now, I will always have love for her

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and I will always feel bad for her. Do I

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>have sympathy? I'm at the breaking point now where it's

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>it's enough is enough, It's too much and it went

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>too far. And I've said it a million times. But

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>do I have love for her. I've known her forever,

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>She's a friend. I've been friends with her for years,

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>She's been at my wa We've hung out so many times.

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm always gonna have love for her. It breaks my

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>heart to see her go through this. And if you

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>can't understand you listeners, if you can't understand that knowing

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>how close her and I were and knowing that I

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>have always defended her, but I'm also trying to make

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>her realize how wrong she is, and I'm trying to

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 1>turn it help her turn it around. You know, I'm

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>not trying to sit on my soapbox and say I'm

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the most perfect person in the world. No, that's not

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to be

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a friend here, and I've said this behind the scenes,

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>let her know, like this is not acceptable behavior, and

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>it just went in one ear and out the other.

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>She's just made poor choices. You can't argue the fact.

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>You can't disagree with me, You just can't.

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 2>No, absolute you could hear it in my voice.

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm aggravated now. I was aggravated. Then I'm gonna be

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>aggravated forever with this situation because I'm a friend and

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I love her, and I don't want her to be

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>going through this. And that's how I feel.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you want her at the conventions, you want her

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 3>next to you, You want her doing all these things

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 3>that you get to experience now.

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Side by side.

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 3>You don't want to have to see her in shackles

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 3>and in ours jumpsuits and reading statements about remorse for

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 3>all these horrible things. No, I completely get it. This

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 3>is this is the worst situation. And this video is

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 3>literally the point where it could have turned around and

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 3>been the path to you know, the the promised land,

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 3>and it just unfortunately didn't happen.

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 2>All Right, that was one thing.

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to move forward because we're literally never going

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 3>to get past the thirteen minute mark unless if we

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 3>don't start to move forward.

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 2>So let me pull up.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just talking about products.

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Is that it's just get Yeah, it's going to be

0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more about that, you know, and how

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 3>hard it is to be slumming it out with the

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, the jail products that they provide to you.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think there's a little bit about the food.

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 3>If memory serves correct, spoiler alert is not good.

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, she got special food. If you don't want to

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 1>play it, I'll just tell you she got to eat

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>pizza and burgers because they brought her special food. She said,

0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>so she was eating what the other inmates weren't eating.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what she told us. But you can skip that.

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 3>It must be nice, I mean, that must be nice,

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 3>you know the Martha Stewart like jail stay.

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Let me just read one comment while you're looking this

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>pissed me off to drinking and driving over and over

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 1>knowing the lives that Rex is simply incredibly selfish, which

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree with. The person doing it says, all I

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>care about is myself, you meaning me, this person. You

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>should decide who your friends are, Francine, those who care

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>about the lives of others. Also, and action show that

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>these are hard decisions to make. But look at all

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 1>the dead friends who were with these irresponsible people like

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>this person. So now am I a bad person for

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to help my friend get on the straight and narrow.

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of these comments, a lot of

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>people telling me, you know, one guy said, oh, you

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>should have helped her more than she wouldn't have killed

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the person, so like putting the blame on me for

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 1>this happening. It's like you, what's that expression? You could

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>lead a horse.

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 2>To water, I can't make a drink, right.

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what I feel like, Like, I feel like I tried,

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't like an every day I wouldn't call

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>her every day and say are you okay? Are you

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>doing the right thing? But I would always like try,

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, every every week or something, try to be

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>like are you okay? Is everything all right? And despite

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>other people's one person saying all I did it for

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>was to get bookings, like I can get my own bookings.

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't need her to get bookings. I did it

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>because I loved her and she was a friend of mine,

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and I would try and check on her and see

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>if she was okay. But when you check on somebody

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and they constantly lie to you, I was over it

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like she's not even telling me the truth,

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, even when there were police reports out, she

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>was trying to tell me she never got arrested again,

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like what. And I have the

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>text messages to prove it, So there you go. But

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of people telling me, you know, you're a

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>shitty friend, or you shouldn't have been her friend, you

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 1>should have cut her off years ago, and blah blah

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. That's not what a friend does. A

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>friend tries to help a friend. And I thought she

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 1>was going to change, and I can't emphasize that enough.

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many times I have to say it.

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:52.959
<v Speaker 1>And now I'm pissed off.

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna let her run a couple of minutes more, actually,

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 3>because I would, we'd get more to only fans and

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 3>some of these other things a little bit down. Let

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 3>me let this run a little bit more.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 5>Sure, piece of steamless steels so you can't really see yourself.

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 5>But then I go and I do my cleaning and

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 5>like the offices and I look in the real mirror

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 5>in their bathrooms and I'm like, oh my god, this

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 5>is just horrendous, you know.

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 4>So it really does fuck with your head.

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you just you know that's then you just

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 5>like prey that you know, a full spotting and a

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 5>hydrofacial will fix everything when you get out, Like.

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:31.959
<v Speaker 1>Are you with like major criminals? Are there? Are there

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>girls that have like committed murder or I hate this skin? Okay,

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you away from these girls, No, you're You're around them

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole time.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 5>Basically, there was one girl there, she's already been there

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 5>six years, leaning on trial. She's therefore killing her girlfriend,

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 5>chopping her up into little pieces and burying her in

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:57.800
<v Speaker 5>the backyard. And the girl, the woman's daughter, is still missing.

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 2>It's lovely, right, I.

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Can't hear that story. It makes me sick to my stomach.

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 2>That's I should have jumped over that. That's lovely in

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the morning.

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, details, details, disgusting, disgusting.

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want me to skip over it.

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean you could play it so they know. I'm

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>just covering my ears. I don't want to hear. Put

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>your hands up when it's done, so I know it.

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:22.919
<v Speaker 1>It's done, so.

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 4>We don't know exactly what happened to the daughter.

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 5>Then there's another one that was there, the Spanish girl who.

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 4>This is like disgusting.

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 5>She videotaped her boyfriend and her nine month old bab

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 5>These are the well I was in there with And

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 5>all I did was drive a car when I wasn't

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 5>supposed to.

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Where's the boyfriend at is he in jail?

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 4>Yes, he's there with her.

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, see that with children. I can't. Like,

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:55.919
<v Speaker 1>that's just too much.

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, everybody just kind of avoids her, and it's just

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 5>it was disgusting. It was absolutely gusting when I find Like,

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 5>when I got there, I didn't know what she was

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 5>there for, and she's being all nice and she's Spanish

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 5>and talking in Spanish and stuff like that, and then

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 5>somebody told me what she was there for. I was like,

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, yeah I do. All I did was

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 5>drive a car, and I'm here with these kind of people.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.760
<v Speaker 5>And there was three other girls that were there for murder.

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.240
<v Speaker 5>One she was seventeen at the time. She was already

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 5>there for three years. She was seventeen at the time.

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 5>She had a baby at home, dressed the baby up,

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 5>took pictures of the baby, sent it to all her friends,

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 5>and then smother the baby, put it in a duffel

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 5>bag and throw it in the dumpster. Oh and these

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 5>are the ton of people I'm in there with and

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 5>all I did was drive a car.

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. As a mother, I can't even I

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>love my kids.

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm not even a mother, and I can't even fathom no,

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 5>I know, Oh my.

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 4>God, that's awful.

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, yeah, you hear all.

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 4>It's not a fun place. That's why. That's why I

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 4>try to get a job so I can get out

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 4>and spend half the day.

0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, Okay, stop this is We're gonna have to

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>do two parts. We're never going to.

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 4>Get through this.

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.720
<v Speaker 1>This would affect my mental health being there with people

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>like that. That would make me insane. That would drive

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>me insane. Rather for her to compare shampoo conditioner, bad mirrors,

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>but she could talk about this side and it doesn't

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>even affect her. How does one comprehend this like that?

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>That kind of thing would would physically make me ill

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:40.919
<v Speaker 1>every day. I couldn't even fathom being around people like that, because,

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe because I'm a mother and I have children,

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and God forbid, like the first thing I would do

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>is kill myself before my kids would even you know,

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 1>anything would happen to my children like I would prevent

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>it by by hurting myself before my children. You get

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Any good parent would do something like that, right.

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I could never be around people who would harm a child,

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 1>especially their own kids. That infuriates me to the point

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>where it makes me sick to my stomach, and it's

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 1>making me nervous talking about it, Like I'm getting so

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>riled up. That is not even affecting her. She's telling

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>these stories like, oh my god, this one did this

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and this one did this. But she has more passion

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 1>talking about hair products. But look at what it's doing

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 1>to me right now. It's making me so angry. Yeah,

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting so worked up over this. Is this such bullshit?

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And this is this is the part of the interview

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that made me sick and I hated it. I can't

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>wrap my brain around how she's thinking or her logic

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to this whole thing. Like that's why I don't understand,

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Like is she putting on a show? Is this an act?

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Like what is going on? Don't I don't know if

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>she's trying to be cute. I don't get it.

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I feel like we had more of Sonny than we

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 3>did Tammy. If that's the way you want to look

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 3>at it then, Yeah, because I kind of.

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Felt that way too.

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 3>You don't glamorize the fact you had a bad hair

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 3>product and bad skin product part of your stay in

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 3>jail and then be like, oh, yeah, we had to

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.879
<v Speaker 3>stay away from the baby murderer and this and that.

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 3>It's like, no, you know what's funny, I'm never going

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 3>back to jail because I was next to baby murderers,

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, like, and I'll take the bad hair care products.

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 2>So I don't have to be by the baby murderer.

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, Like, I'm trying to have a

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, a realistic conversation about your mental health and

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 1>what triggers mental health when you're in a jail or

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 1>prison setting. She's triggered by freakin' dollar store products, but

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>she's not triggered by these criminals who are harming children.

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got to comment for you. If somebody said, Francine,

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 3>you can tell, you can tell. You have it all

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 3>together way more than Sunny. Stundy is more consumed with

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 3>products and not upset at her seventy uy's. It's a

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 3>shame because now someone has died and she's done.

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just don't I haven't watched this in a

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>very long time, so this is triggering me, and I

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.800
<v Speaker 1>can't understand where she's coming from.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Break it up for sure, just.

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>To talk about this without flinching, but getting upset at products.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 1>You could see my facials when she was telling the story, like,

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I just covered my ears. I couldn't even listen to

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 1>it a second time. Once was enough for me. But

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember it, and I remember it made me nauseous,

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>It made me sick to my stomach, and I didn't

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>want to hear any more about it. Fuck, you know

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying? Like, and again, maybe it's because she's

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>not maternal and I am because I have children. Some

0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>people aren't. But harming another human doesn't get you, but

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>fringing cheap dollar products get you. Like that doesn't make

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 1>any sense to me. This is why I don't think.

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You know, does the mental illness factor

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>come in that she talked about in prison recently? You know,

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the being bipolar being I don't. I don't even remember

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>what they said she was. Was schizophrenia in there? I

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. Was it just bipolar and depressionatic depression?

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what the things were. But are these

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 1>traits signs of off kilter with your brain? I don't know.

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't. I can't justify what she's saying.

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it, man, I just don't get it.

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I think you are correct. I think maybe

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 3>we should break this up into a second part because again,

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 3>really sixteen minutes seconds in.

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Sixteen minutes of me being angry.

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 3>And again, you know, once we get past about the

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 3>twenty five minute mark, you guys start to talk about

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:13.840
<v Speaker 3>some of your fun memories.

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:15.919
<v Speaker 2>And going to Fort Lauderdale together and hang it out.

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, if we dive in deeper and

0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>find other things that we can talk about, we'll do

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a part two. But this, this was the gist of it.

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to get in her brain and

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>learn a little bit more about what she went through.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And I really didn't learn that much because I don't

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.359
<v Speaker 1>know what's fact and what's fiction. To be honest with you,

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I really don't and I don't know. I mean, you

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>guys can have your take on it, but it's it's

0:48:53.760 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>super frustrating just because I and everybody says to me,

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 1>why do you say she's a good person, because the

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>timey I knew and the timey I hung out with

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>years ago was a good person. The timing I was

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>with that Russell Kate was a good person to me.

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there when she did all this other stuff,

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like a lot of the

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 1>things that she did in her life were wrong. A

0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of the things she told me she never did,

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the things with Chris she told me

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>weren't true. Who do I believe? Do I believe her

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:41.439
<v Speaker 1>or do I believe everybody else? It's hard when it's

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 1>your friend. You want to give them the benefit of

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 1>the dell, you know, you want to believe in them.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to help them. That's all I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish these fans would stop chastising me for trying

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<v Speaker 1>to help a person, trying to be a friend to

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<v Speaker 1>a person, because sometimes all one person needs is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to believe in them, and if they get that, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they turn their life around. Unfortunately, I wasn't her person,

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<v Speaker 1>and it you know, it didn't matter what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>because she was going to do her own thing anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that's where we're at, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a good friend, and I want you to know

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<v Speaker 3>that as we wrap this up, you're a good friend.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen nothing but passion. I've seen nothing but you

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<v Speaker 3>doing all you could in this video. Everything we've covered,

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, the tears that you shed today, but additionally,

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<v Speaker 3>when we covered the dark side of the Ring episode

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<v Speaker 3>this past summer, and there's nothing more that you could

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<v Speaker 3>have done. And even though I could even say when

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<v Speaker 3>she came out of jail and we were recording shows,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, you told me what was going on,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, after she went back in, I saw

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<v Speaker 3>the passion.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are a good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate that. I just I'm so sick of

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<v Speaker 1>fans telling me how crappy I am and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>bad judge of character and all this stuff. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, you know, I just I tried. I just

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<v Speaker 1>tried to be there for her. And I would do

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<v Speaker 1>it for any of my friends. I would do it

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>for you. I would do it for any of my

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<v Speaker 1>friends who I care about. And sometimes you have to

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>show tough love. You don't always get the results you want.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least I know in my heart that I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to be there for her, and I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>help her and it just didn't work out. And it's frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know again, fifteen years is a long time

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 1>if she's able to get out, and what if sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six years old or something, she'll be Hopefully she'll

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<v Speaker 1>be healthy enough to enjoy the rest of her life

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<v Speaker 1>and walk the street and narrow and learn from this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so much like that horse that you led to

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 3>the water, you could tell those fans, like a wise

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:25.359
<v Speaker 3>man once said to a group of people, before they.

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<v Speaker 2>Can all kiss yours? Yeah, how about that?

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, listen can wrap it up for twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>for us.

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<v Speaker 2>We will not be back.

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<v Speaker 3>Until twenty twenty four on the iHeartRadio airwaves. So looking

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<v Speaker 3>back on the first you know, month and change here

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<v Speaker 3>with iHeartRadio, I think it's been great.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts so far, Queen of Extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just super excited for twenty twenty four and the

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:01.280
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0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 1>want to get better and we want to provide you

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<v Speaker 1>the best wrestling podcast that you can listen to. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>If you like this kind of topic, you like this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of content, just tell us we do something similar.

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<v Speaker 3>We have things we can dive into and we will.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll dive. We'll go head first as long as there's

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<v Speaker 3>some water. We don't dive if there's nothing there. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>dive if there's stuff, and trust me, we will. So Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to follow me on social media, it's

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<v Speaker 3>coming in twenty twenty four, so stay tuned to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And catch us on the YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 3>The Queen of Extreme Francine's YouTube channel is loaded with

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. YouTube is gosh, we have hundreds of videos. Content

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<v Speaker 1>content that only you get to see. I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to plug something. New Year's Eve is coming up and

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<v Speaker 1>I will be doing my third annual virtual one Signed

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<v Speaker 1>by Superstars. Last year was absolutely insane that my husband

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<v Speaker 1>little tipsy. I'm expecting it to be another debacle this year,

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<v Speaker 1>just go to Signed by Superstars dot com. You can

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<v Speaker 1>truth or Darek kind of thing. You get to pick

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<v Speaker 1>what I do. Yeah, it's crazy, It's gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So for more info, yeah, just go to sign by

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<v Speaker 1>Superstars dot com. And if you want to follow me

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, you can find me at ecwdva Francine,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to wish you all a very blessed New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's even New Year's Day, and I hope that twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four brings you everything that your heart desires. We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you, guys, God bless I hope you're staying safe.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're staying healthy, and most of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you're streets they t