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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, you're look you are listening eyes up here

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Speaker 1: from the iHeart Radio Network or wherever you get your

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Speaker 1: podcast with me with my co host Chad Chad. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: was Christmas. Merry Christmas. How was your holiday?

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Speaker 2: What did you do?

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Speaker 1: What did you get? It?

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas? I got a lot. I'm loving that.

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Speaker 3: This Christmas week has been very merry and full of cheer,

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Speaker 3: and I'm glad be spending it with you today.

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Speaker 2: This very merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Treek today post Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: Yes yeah, post Christmas Day, December twenty sixth, For those

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Speaker 3: who need to check your calendar.

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Speaker 2: The twenty fifth is yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I get to tous sometimes a day it's okay in together.

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Speaker 2: I mean in the Queen's Kingdom.

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Speaker 3: I mean they must shower you with gifts and food

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Speaker 3: and all the trimming, so you know, I could see

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Speaker 3: how you get confused.

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Speaker 1: I got some really good gifts. I got to go

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Speaker 1: to my great niece's house yesterday. They were hosting, and

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Speaker 1: all we had to bring was dessert, which was very easy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even have to cook, and I got some

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Speaker 1: good stuff. I really wanted a Donald Duck hoodie zip

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Speaker 1: up hoodie for our upcoming Disney trip. So I told

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Speaker 1: my husband, this is what I want. So I got that.

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Speaker 1: I got a cute women's eagle shirt because you know,

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Speaker 1: most of the men's shirts are balky, but this one's

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Speaker 1: really cute for I'm fitting love it. I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of good stuff. So it was a good day,

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Speaker 1: and my kids were happy with their presence. And you know,

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Speaker 1: just looking forward to the new year, and with twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four has the bring for us, so it's good.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be super busy in twenty twenty four. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: really looking forward to it. You keep booking dates left

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Speaker 3: and right.

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Speaker 1: I mean so far there there have been several dates

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Speaker 1: that have come in, and I'm very grateful for the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get out there and work, even in the

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Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this in the month of March

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Speaker 1: on book three weekends, so that doesn't really happen that often.

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Speaker 1: So and and if I play my cards right, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot more that's gonna get booked. So

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Speaker 1: as always, I'll keep everybody post it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I just want to work now while I can, while

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Speaker 1: ECW is still hot, while people are still interested. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be eighty three walking into a convey

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Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect to those who do, but like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. You know, I'll be

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Speaker 1: fifty two next year. I think I got a couple

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Speaker 1: of good years left in me, especially if I take

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Speaker 1: care of myself. So you know, I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good stuff ahead.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you were fifty, if you were eighty three

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Speaker 3: going into a convention, would you still strut like like

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Speaker 3: Francine would?

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Speaker 1: I would try my damnedest. I would get my walker

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Speaker 1: and like every once in a while go like, pick

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Speaker 1: up my walker and do a little kick, a little shimmy,

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Speaker 2: How about the leather pants? Could the leather pants still

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Speaker 2: be a thing?

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Speaker 1: My ass can fit into them? I would still rock them.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, who knows what the hell I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: look like at eighty three. I hope I'm alive at

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Speaker 1: eighty three, you know I did.

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Speaker 3: I was this close. I wanted to get Liz a

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Speaker 3: pair of leather pants for Christmas. I told you sure time,

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Speaker 3: I want to see.

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Speaker 2: I had them in the cart.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't pull the trigger because I was like,

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Speaker 3: where where's she going to wear them?

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Speaker 1: Well? You guys go to like comedy clubs and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have anything like on a horizon, so

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Speaker 3: they just I buy them for.

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Speaker 1: Them to sit, so she wears it.

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Speaker 3: Well, before I book something, you know, I will get them.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, I'm not not going to get

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Speaker 3: do something. But I think leather pants are in my future,

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Speaker 3: not for me, but for her.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they make your ass look like a peach.

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Speaker 1: It's really nice.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why I would love to add them

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Speaker 1: There you go, So yeah, I love them. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's another thing I was thinking of. I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: holding off until next year to buy clothes for these

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Speaker 1: But it's really frustrating, Like, you know, you work so

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Speaker 1: the hell is going on? So a little pissed off

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Speaker 1: about that. But I'm you know, I'm fighting a good fight.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there and buy WrestleMania weekend. Hopefully my

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Speaker 1: body will be where it needs to be. I'll just

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Speaker 2: I mean, either way, you know, get the job done.

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Speaker 2: Whatever goes one way, the other root goes the other.

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Speaker 1: I don't really want to do that because I love food.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I ate yesterday, you know, because there's so

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Speaker 1: much good food on the holidays. But it's it's rough.

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Speaker 1: It's rough when a salad even blows you up. There's

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Speaker 1: something going on. I'm still seeing the gi I'm still

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Speaker 1: sitting in neurologies like there's so many things going on.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, we don't have to talk about that. We're

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Speaker 1: here for a reason today and we're diving into something different.

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Speaker 1: This was the suggestion by a friend, and it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like a I'd say it's a hot topic right

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Speaker 1: now because this just happened like within the month. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into an interview that we did in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and what was it twenty one?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you thought it was twenty one, yep.

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Speaker 1: With Tammy Sich. And I really think this was the

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Speaker 1: last interview that she did. I don't think she did

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Speaker 1: any others after us, before the unfortunate incident in Florida happened.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna go over this video. I don't think

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Speaker 2: End of the you know what, I'm actually going to

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Speaker 1: So we have I'm thinking it was later in the year.

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Speaker 3: So this is actually July of twenty twenty one, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so that was, you know a little over then two

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Speaker 1: So yeah, because I knew we were planning to go

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving right in November, So this was like a couple

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Speaker 1: months before, and we sat down and we talked to her,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I got a lot of backlash from

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Speaker 1: over my thought process, you know. But I just want

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Speaker 1: to say for the record, before we even start, I honestly,

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Speaker 1: not justifying anything that happened in the past, what she

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Speaker 1: saying is I thought she was starting over, like with

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Speaker 1: We had almost four hundred comments on this video, and

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Speaker 1: there were so many comments telling me that, you know,

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Speaker 1: why are you sitting there talking to this person, Why

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Speaker 1: decad She's a dear friend. Even with that said, I'm

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Speaker 1: not justifying anything that she's ever done to don't take

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me, this is hard for me to

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Speaker 1: just wanted to make that clear because I got so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember at the time a ton on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: When we posted the interview, there was a ton of comments.

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Speaker 3: a ton of comments on that not favorable and saying

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Speaker 2: Why are you doing this? And you defended this is

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Speaker 3: And as you'll see as we get through parts of this,

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Speaker 3: Dive into this little interview, with stoppages along the way

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, and let me really really quickly, if this

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, if it was just me

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think anybody would want to sit there

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Speaker 1: So let me just you know, I was trying. I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to make light of anything that she's ever done.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the goal. I was just trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: stories that maybe no one ever heard before, and you know,

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Speaker 1: people might be interested in learning because we all know

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Speaker 1: about the train wreck side. But there was so much

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Speaker 1: good that I've experienced with her, and that's what I

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Speaker 1: trying to justify her having what aduis or killing somebody.

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Speaker 1: And this was before the gentleman died, so keep that

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Speaker 1: in mind as well. But the hate that I infuriated

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Speaker 1: how I try to to bring back the fact we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the street and narratory. You're gonna be good, Tammy,

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Speaker 1: You're you know, we're never going to go back to jail. Tammy.

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Speaker 1: You can run it and you'll see what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But you keep that in mind as you're listening before

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to call you an idiot. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Oh, schmuck, hey, schmuck.

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Speaker 1: She told me that was a naughty word. So I'm

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Speaker 1: Nice, how are you? She's leaving already, She's gone, my son,

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Speaker 1: So I just got to keep my mouth, sweetheart. It's

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Speaker 1: How are you? Yes? Well, first of.

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Speaker 4: All, get all dressed up. All my clothes are in storage,

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Speaker 1: You look beautiful as always.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow to get some of it out.

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Speaker 1: So listen, should we should we talk about the elephant

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Speaker 1: I'm honored I choose me, although I did badger her

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Speaker 5: If she knows, Yeah, you did, he threatened me. She said,

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Speaker 1: You not know me?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 1: They're very they're very effective, so you know, everybody knows

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Speaker 1: the situation that you were in, right. Unfortunately, I asked,

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Speaker 4: Well, this, this was totally different. I got a driving on.

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Speaker 4: But I'm all done with that probation in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: They can't do anything else to me.

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Speaker 5: That five years of them sending me back all the

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Speaker 1: I don't want to piss her off. I don't want

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Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, my PM in Pennsylvania was horrible. And it

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Speaker 5: If I was a half an hour late for an appointment,

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Speaker 4: It was just bullshit. But I'm done with that. It's

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Speaker 1: So you're done. You're done with PA. What about New Jersey?

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Speaker 1: Are you good in New Jersey?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I'm good here, You're good everywhere.

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Speaker 4: I just can't drive.

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Speaker 1: I can't drive, Okay, we're good if I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just know we're not going to do that. We're

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Speaker 5: Well, the problem was last year I got a really

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Speaker 1: All right, you're smarter than this.

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Speaker 4: I know. That's why I'm not driving now. Uber is

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Speaker 1: Okay, well let's stop. So the comment that we got,

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Speaker 1: She did not stick to her words and yet did

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Speaker 1: That's addiction and that's hard to overcome. People have been

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a chilling comment.

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Speaker 1: If anything, No, No, so right then and there, And

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Speaker 1: I am trying to let her know, Like I mean,

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Speaker 3: That or is it just me you are I've stayed

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Speaker 1: Then who loves this person and wants the best for them?

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Speaker 3: Yes, a friend that does not give up on another

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Speaker 1: The thing that that I've said over and over is

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Speaker 1: best you you can be. That's all anybody can ever ask. Correct,

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Speaker 1: when you went in jail this time? Yeah, uh, I

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Speaker 1: Did you go in with a different mindset? Like, because

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Speaker 1: I mean I would be. I would be any time

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Speaker 5: To be a lot worse on TV than it actually is.

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Speaker 3: So that's just me saying that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, continue, it's doable.

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Speaker 4: You can make it. Stop.

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Speaker 1: Stop me, I'm gonna kill her. Give me an example

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Speaker 5: All you basically do is watch TV, play cards. You know,

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Speaker 5: But there's no like where I was anywhere, there's no

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Speaker 4: It's just yeah, you can be lazy or you can

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Speaker 5: I actually got a job in there so I can

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so fa.

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Speaker 3: Was it because she had, you know, a little celebrity,

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Speaker 1: say this on all of my videos. I wasn't there.

442
00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: You know, she did tell me before, like some times

443
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: when she would go back into jail, because she was

444
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: there multiple times, people would be like, hey, Sonny, like

445
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: they knew her, like hey, girls, you're back or whatever.

446
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: So maybe there were a couple of the wardens or whatever,

447
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know what they're called, the people who

448
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: work there. Maybe they did have a little bit of

449
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: a celebrity crush on her, and maybe she did get

450
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: special treatment. But I know a lot of the comments

451
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: said they thought she was straight up lying.

452
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: Interesting, we'll never know.

453
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one part I remember specifically from the beginning.

454
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: People.

455
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, my face says it all like, I know you

456
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: guys can't see it, and you should go back and

457
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: watch this on YouTube. But my facials are just like, please, girl, please, all.

458
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: Right, let this run a little bit more about the jobs,

459
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: and then we'll move forward a little bit more in

460
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: the interview.

461
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 4: Yep, I had a job.

462
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: You're making time out. You're taking the trash outside by

463
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: yourself to a parking lot. Is there? I envision a

464
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: big gate with barbed wire that there.

465
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 5: Is, But I go out the front lobby doors because

466
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 5: I had all access, because they trusted.

467
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: Well she Of course you have all access. Why if

468
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 1: you wanted to run? Are you able to scale this

469
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: wall and.

470
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 4: Try where I was?

471
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 5: There were no when I was going out to take

472
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 5: the garbage out, There's no walls. It's just the parking

473
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 5: lot on the street.

474
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: You could have ran. You could have ran for your life. Yeah.

475
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: I could have walked away.

476
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 5: They probably wouldn't have realized I was gone for like

477
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 5: twenty minutes, thirty minutes, but I didn't.

478
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: Do it because if you get it, if you get

479
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: an escape charge, it's like seven years in jail. So

480
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 4: you don't want it.

481
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: But here day, I mean, you're you're a very likable girl.

482
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: I've known you for years, but I wouldn't trust you

483
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: taking a sorry.

484
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 4: And where the parking lot is.

485
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 5: It's where all the CEO's park and all visitors park

486
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 5: and stuff like that.

487
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: So it was very easy.

488
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 5: If somebody wanted to drive up, open a car door,

489
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 5: you can dive in and boom, you'd begune.

490
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: Nobody would even know.

491
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: Are you in an orange jumpsuit? No? What are you wearing?

492
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: Are you wearing like a bikini? Like what is going

493
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: on in these prisons?

494
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 5: Maybe I would have gone out sooner, But no, you

495
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 5: wear this like alpha.

496
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 4: It looks like scrubs. It looks like medical scrubs.

497
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh, like like a hospital scrub.

498
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, see I'm.

499
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: Thinking you're in all orange, you're shackled, you got a

500
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: big ball on your leg or you know, the color

501
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: chained together, just getting.

502
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 5: Like a burgundy color. So it looked like it looks

503
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 5: like you nurse. If you didn't look close enough, it

504
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 5: looked like a nurse.

505
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: Was this the same jail that you were in before?

506
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 5: M hm, So not the Pennsylvania one. I mean I

507
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 5: was in Pennsylvania before, but this is the Jersey jail

508
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 5: that I was in before.

509
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were in Okay, So when you walk in,

510
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: you don't know anyone.

511
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 5: No, this time, I saw some people that were there

512
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 5: the last time. So you have friends, well, I wouldn't

513
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: call them friends, acquaintances, jail acquaintances, jail buddies.

514
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: All right, we don't you know, if you have jail buddies,

515
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: that's that's not really something that you want. Maybe on

516
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: the outside, if you see somebody at Walmart, Okay, you

517
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: shouldn't really have jail buddies.

518
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, she's going back to the same jail,

519
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: and that's what my point earlier was. When she walked in,

520
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: people remembered her, knew who she was. Whether it would

521
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: have been another in me or you know, the people

522
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: who guard I would assume because the span of her

523
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: going back, I mean, wasn't it really short, like she

524
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: she got out of jail and then she went back,

525
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: and then got out and then she went back. It

526
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: could be that there's people serving years and years there,

527
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: so she could have left and then went back, and

528
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: it's like the same people behind bars, you know what

529
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that's a possibility or it's the same.

530
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Uh are they called wardens? Like what are they called?

531
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't even know, jail guards? I don't know, Okay,

532
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: correction officer could be the same people working there that

533
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: recognize her. I guess it's a good thing to have

534
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: friends on the inside, you know. And maybe what she

535
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: said prior is true. Maybe because they knew who she was,

536
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: she did get perks. But I just find it hard

537
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: to believe that they would just let somebody go out

538
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: the the main door where they could just escape. Yeah,

539
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: but kind of jail, what is that?

540
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: That's much like something on the Simpsons.

541
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: It's a joke on the Simpsons that there's a revolving door,

542
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: you know where they.

543
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: Just come out. They go, hey, you promised to come back, Like, yeah,

544
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: we'll be back.

545
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, do they do this for murderers and

546
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: for you know, people like really hardcore criminals.

547
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: Hey, rapists, just promise not to rape anybody when you

548
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: go out forbid.

549
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: It's like, that's that's scary to me that they you know,

550
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: you could become friends with somebody in there and then

551
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: you get these perks and you're just allowed to walk

552
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: out the door. I don't find that. Uh, I don't

553
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: know that. That scares me. That makes me nervous that

554
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: anyone could just escape. What does that say for our system?

555
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Not much? So I this this bothers me, should bother you.

556
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, that's what is? What does that say about

557
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: the was it was.

558
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: This new Jersey that she's talking about, the new Jersey

559
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: correctional system.

560
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: That not much, not much at all. I don't like it.

561
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: So moving forward a little bit up the timeline here

562
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: in the you uh, she now starts to talk about how, yes,

563
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: we've glamorized her stay a little bit in the interview

564
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: and talked about perks that she has. So now she's

565
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: going to talk about a few of the things maybe

566
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: not so perkable in her stay.

567
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 5: Okay, we're goofing around about it, laughing about it, glamorizing it,

568
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 5: but it's not glamor glamorous at all. I mean, you

569
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 5: have the worst products in the world. It's like dollar

570
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: store shampoos and stuff like that.

571
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: You have to buy alcohol products girl mental health.

572
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 5: No, but I'm saying that the cruis your mental health

573
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: because you're using all this like this, these horrible products,

574
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 5: and your hair gets shitty and your skin gets shitty,

575
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 5: and you look in the mirror, which isn't even a mirror.

576
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: It's like this polish.

577
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I can't, okay, excuse me. What's screwed with your mental

578
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: health is being in jail. The fact that you are

579
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: in jail screws with your mental health, not your dollar

580
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: store shampoo. I cannot with this. Look at my face?

581
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: Can you see her?

582
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 2: I can see it.

583
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: If you're listening, please go type in Tammy Sitch's list interview.

584
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: My facials are worth the watch. I am so annoyed

585
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: at this point. I'm just like, I'm trying to make

586
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: it a point to talk about mental health. And my

587
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: question was legit, you kind of you missed my question.

588
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I believe it was something like, how does this mess

589
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: with your mind? How does this affect your mental health?

590
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: And you went right into her answer and she talks

591
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: about dollar store products. Yeah, messing with her mental health,

592
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: but not being in jail. That's perfectly fine. It's the

593
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: products and the shitty mirror because it's not really a mirror.

594
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: It's like a foil reflection or whatever she's come on.

595
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: I cannot agree with this statement. God forbid, I'm in jail.

596
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: That's going to screw with my brain and my mental health.

597
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't care what I look like.

598
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't care if I'm using dollar General shampooy conditioner combined.

599
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: Who cares. I care about being there and getting out

600
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: and being a better person. I again, is she is

601
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: she just saying this to be funny, trying to cover

602
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: up real emotion that she doesn't want to show, because

603
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't think she was gonna sit

604
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: there and break down and cry. That's not Tammy. That's

605
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: never been Tammy, you know what I mean. Like she

606
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: doesn't she doesn't really want to wear her heart on

607
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: her sleeve or show like emotion unless she got to

608
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: a breaking point. You know. She was always like a

609
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: tough New Jersey chick, you know what I mean, rying

610
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: off her back didn't bother her, like, she just would

611
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: laugh things off. And I feel like she's putting on

612
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: a show when in reality, I think it was literally

613
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: eating her alive, and she just didn't want to show

614
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: it to me or to anybody, you know, And I

615
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: was pretty close with her at this point. So I

616
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: was getting annoyed because I feel like there's more to

617
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: it than she's letting on, and I feel like she

618
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: was holding back and it's not just for the sake

619
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: of the interview. It's for the sake of her mental health.

620
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 1: You have to let go. You have to admit when

621
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: you're wrong, you have to admit you have a problem,

622
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: because if you don't, it's gonna eat you up and

623
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: you're never gonna get better. And that's what I was

624
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: just trying to tell her, like, you know, this is

625
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: not okay. We need to switch this around, and you're

626
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: gonna be much better. You still are young, you still

627
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: have your whole life ahead at you. That was my point,

628
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: and I couldn't get it through her thick friggin head.

629
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm trying to run this as a very

630
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: serious topic, but I could not help but laughing at

631
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: looking at your face on our live broadcast here as

632
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm looking at you on this side and.

633
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Looking at you on the pause screen.

634
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry.

635
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's incredible.

636
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: It's frustrating because I love her and I don't care.

637
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: I don't care when people get mad at me for

638
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: saying that I love the girl even though she probably

639
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: hates me. Now, I will always have love for her

640
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: and I will always feel bad for her. Do I

641
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: have sympathy? I'm at the breaking point now where it's

642
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: it's enough is enough, It's too much and it went

643
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: too far. And I've said it a million times. But

644
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: do I have love for her. I've known her forever,

645
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: She's a friend. I've been friends with her for years,

646
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: She's been at my wa We've hung out so many times.

647
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna have love for her. It breaks my

648
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: heart to see her go through this. And if you

649
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: can't understand you listeners, if you can't understand that knowing

650
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: how close her and I were and knowing that I

651
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: have always defended her, but I'm also trying to make

652
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: her realize how wrong she is, and I'm trying to

653
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: turn it help her turn it around. You know, I'm

654
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: not trying to sit on my soapbox and say I'm

655
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: the most perfect person in the world. No, that's not

656
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to be

657
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 1: a friend here, and I've said this behind the scenes,

658
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: let her know, like this is not acceptable behavior, and

659
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: it just went in one ear and out the other.

660
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: She's just made poor choices. You can't argue the fact.

661
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: You can't disagree with me, You just can't.

662
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 2: No, absolute you could hear it in my voice.

663
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm aggravated now. I was aggravated. Then I'm gonna be

664
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: aggravated forever with this situation because I'm a friend and

665
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: I love her, and I don't want her to be

666
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: going through this. And that's how I feel.

667
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you want her at the conventions, you want her

668
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: next to you, You want her doing all these things

669
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: that you get to experience now.

670
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Side by side.

671
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: You don't want to have to see her in shackles

672
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: and in ours jumpsuits and reading statements about remorse for

673
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: all these horrible things. No, I completely get it. This

674
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: is this is the worst situation. And this video is

675
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: literally the point where it could have turned around and

676
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: been the path to you know, the the promised land,

677
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: and it just unfortunately didn't happen.

678
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: All Right, that was one thing.

679
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 3: I'm going to move forward because we're literally never going

680
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: to get past the thirteen minute mark unless if we

681
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: don't start to move forward.

682
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: So let me pull up.

683
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: It's just talking about products.

684
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: Is that it's just get Yeah, it's going to be

685
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: a little bit more about that, you know, and how

686
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: hard it is to be slumming it out with the

687
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the jail products that they provide to you.

688
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I think there's a little bit about the food.

689
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: If memory serves correct, spoiler alert is not good.

690
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Well, she got special food. If you don't want to

691
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: play it, I'll just tell you she got to eat

692
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: pizza and burgers because they brought her special food. She said,

693
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: so she was eating what the other inmates weren't eating.

694
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: That's what she told us. But you can skip that.

695
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: It must be nice, I mean, that must be nice,

696
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: you know the Martha Stewart like jail stay.

697
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: Let me just read one comment while you're looking this

698
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: pissed me off to drinking and driving over and over

699
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: knowing the lives that Rex is simply incredibly selfish, which

700
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: I agree with. The person doing it says, all I

701
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: care about is myself, you meaning me, this person. You

702
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: should decide who your friends are, Francine, those who care

703
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: about the lives of others. Also, and action show that

704
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: these are hard decisions to make. But look at all

705
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: the dead friends who were with these irresponsible people like

706
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: this person. So now am I a bad person for

707
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: trying to help my friend get on the straight and narrow.

708
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: I got a lot of these comments, a lot of

709
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: people telling me, you know, one guy said, oh, you

710
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: should have helped her more than she wouldn't have killed

711
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: the person, so like putting the blame on me for

712
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: this happening. It's like you, what's that expression? You could

713
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: lead a horse.

714
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: To water, I can't make a drink, right.

715
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like, Like, I feel like I tried,

716
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like an every day I wouldn't call

717
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: her every day and say are you okay? Are you

718
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: doing the right thing? But I would always like try,

719
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, every every week or something, try to be

720
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: like are you okay? Is everything all right? And despite

721
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: other people's one person saying all I did it for

722
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: was to get bookings, like I can get my own bookings.

723
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I didn't need her to get bookings. I did it

724
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: because I loved her and she was a friend of mine,

725
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: and I would try and check on her and see

726
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: if she was okay. But when you check on somebody

727
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: and they constantly lie to you, I was over it

728
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: because I'm like she's not even telling me the truth,

729
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: you know, even when there were police reports out, she

730
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: was trying to tell me she never got arrested again,

731
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: and I was just like what. And I have the

732
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: text messages to prove it, So there you go. But

733
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm sick of people telling me, you know, you're a

734
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: shitty friend, or you shouldn't have been her friend, you

735
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: should have cut her off years ago, and blah blah

736
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. That's not what a friend does. A

737
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: friend tries to help a friend. And I thought she

738
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: was going to change, and I can't emphasize that enough.

739
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how many times I have to say it.

740
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 1: And now I'm pissed off.

741
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let her run a couple of minutes more, actually,

742
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: because I would, we'd get more to only fans and

743
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: some of these other things a little bit down. Let

744
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: me let this run a little bit more.

745
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 5: Sure, piece of steamless steels so you can't really see yourself.

746
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: But then I go and I do my cleaning and

747
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 5: like the offices and I look in the real mirror

748
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: in their bathrooms and I'm like, oh my god, this

749
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 5: is just horrendous, you know.

750
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: So it really does fuck with your head.

751
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you just you know that's then you just

752
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 5: like prey that you know, a full spotting and a

753
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: hydrofacial will fix everything when you get out, Like.

754
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: Are you with like major criminals? Are there? Are there

755
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: girls that have like committed murder or I hate this skin? Okay,

756
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: you away from these girls, No, you're You're around them

757
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: the whole time.

758
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 5: Basically, there was one girl there, she's already been there

759
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 5: six years, leaning on trial. She's therefore killing her girlfriend,

760
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 5: chopping her up into little pieces and burying her in

761
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 5: the backyard. And the girl, the woman's daughter, is still missing.

762
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: It's lovely, right, I.

763
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: Can't hear that story. It makes me sick to my stomach.

764
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: That's I should have jumped over that. That's lovely in

765
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: the morning.

766
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, details, details, disgusting, disgusting.

767
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want me to skip over it.

768
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: I mean you could play it so they know. I'm

769
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: just covering my ears. I don't want to hear. Put

770
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: your hands up when it's done, so I know it.

771
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: It's done, so.

772
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: We don't know exactly what happened to the daughter.

773
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: Then there's another one that was there, the Spanish girl who.

774
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: This is like disgusting.

775
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 5: She videotaped her boyfriend and her nine month old bab

776
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: These are the well I was in there with And

777
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 5: all I did was drive a car when I wasn't

778
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 5: supposed to.

779
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: Where's the boyfriend at is he in jail?

780
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: Yes, he's there with her.

781
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, see that with children. I can't. Like,

782
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: that's just too much.

783
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody just kind of avoids her, and it's just

784
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 5: it was disgusting. It was absolutely gusting when I find Like,

785
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 5: when I got there, I didn't know what she was

786
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 5: there for, and she's being all nice and she's Spanish

787
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 5: and talking in Spanish and stuff like that, and then

788
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 5: somebody told me what she was there for. I was like,

789
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 5: oh my god, yeah I do. All I did was

790
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 5: drive a car, and I'm here with these kind of people.

791
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 5: And there was three other girls that were there for murder.

792
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 5: One she was seventeen at the time. She was already

793
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 5: there for three years. She was seventeen at the time.

794
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 5: She had a baby at home, dressed the baby up,

795
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 5: took pictures of the baby, sent it to all her friends,

796
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 5: and then smother the baby, put it in a duffel

797
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 5: bag and throw it in the dumpster. Oh and these

798
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 5: are the ton of people I'm in there with and

799
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 5: all I did was drive a car.

800
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god. As a mother, I can't even I

801
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: love my kids.

802
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: I'm not even a mother, and I can't even fathom no,

803
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 5: I know, Oh my.

804
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: God, that's awful.

805
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah, you hear all.

806
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: It's not a fun place. That's why. That's why I

807
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: try to get a job so I can get out

808
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: and spend half the day.

809
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, stop this is We're gonna have to

810
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: do two parts. We're never going to.

811
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: Get through this.

812
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: This would affect my mental health being there with people

813
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: like that. That would make me insane. That would drive

814
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: me insane. Rather for her to compare shampoo conditioner, bad mirrors,

815
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: but she could talk about this side and it doesn't

816
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: even affect her. How does one comprehend this like that?

817
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: That kind of thing would would physically make me ill

818
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: every day. I couldn't even fathom being around people like that, because,

819
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, maybe because I'm a mother and I have children,

820
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: and God forbid, like the first thing I would do

821
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: is kill myself before my kids would even you know,

822
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: anything would happen to my children like I would prevent

823
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: it by by hurting myself before my children. You get

824
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. Any good parent would do something like that, right.

825
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: I could never be around people who would harm a child,

826
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: especially their own kids. That infuriates me to the point

827
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: where it makes me sick to my stomach, and it's

828
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: making me nervous talking about it, Like I'm getting so

829
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: riled up. That is not even affecting her. She's telling

830
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: these stories like, oh my god, this one did this

831
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: and this one did this. But she has more passion

832
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: talking about hair products. But look at what it's doing

833
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: to me right now. It's making me so angry. Yeah,

834
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm getting so worked up over this. Is this such bullshit?

835
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: And this is this is the part of the interview

836
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: that made me sick and I hated it. I can't

837
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: wrap my brain around how she's thinking or her logic

838
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: to this whole thing. Like that's why I don't understand,

839
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: Like is she putting on a show? Is this an act?

840
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: Like what is going on? Don't I don't know if

841
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: she's trying to be cute. I don't get it.

842
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: I feel like we had more of Sonny than we

843
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: did Tammy. If that's the way you want to look

844
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: at it then, Yeah, because I kind of.

845
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: Felt that way too.

846
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: You don't glamorize the fact you had a bad hair

847
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: product and bad skin product part of your stay in

848
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: jail and then be like, oh, yeah, we had to

849
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: stay away from the baby murderer and this and that.

850
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: It's like, no, you know what's funny, I'm never going

851
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: back to jail because I was next to baby murderers,

852
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: you know, like, and I'll take the bad hair care products.

853
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: So I don't have to be by the baby murderer.

854
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, I'm trying to have a

855
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, a realistic conversation about your mental health and

856
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: what triggers mental health when you're in a jail or

857
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: prison setting. She's triggered by freakin' dollar store products, but

858
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: she's not triggered by these criminals who are harming children.

859
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to comment for you. If somebody said, Francine,

860
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: you can tell, you can tell. You have it all

861
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: together way more than Sunny. Stundy is more consumed with

862
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: products and not upset at her seventy uy's. It's a

863
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: shame because now someone has died and she's done.

864
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just don't I haven't watched this in a

865
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: very long time, so this is triggering me, and I

866
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: can't understand where she's coming from.

867
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: Break it up for sure, just.

868
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: To talk about this without flinching, but getting upset at products.

869
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: You could see my facials when she was telling the story, like,

870
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: I just covered my ears. I couldn't even listen to

871
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: it a second time. Once was enough for me. But

872
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: I remember it, and I remember it made me nauseous,

873
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: It made me sick to my stomach, and I didn't

874
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: want to hear any more about it. Fuck, you know

875
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, and again, maybe it's because she's

876
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: not maternal and I am because I have children. Some

877
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: people aren't. But harming another human doesn't get you, but

878
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: fringing cheap dollar products get you. Like that doesn't make

879
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: any sense to me. This is why I don't think.

880
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, does the mental illness factor

881
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: come in that she talked about in prison recently? You know,

882
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: the being bipolar being I don't. I don't even remember

883
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: what they said she was. Was schizophrenia in there? I

884
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: don't think so. Was it just bipolar and depressionatic depression?

885
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: I don't.

886
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: I don't remember what the things were. But are these

887
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: traits signs of off kilter with your brain? I don't know.

888
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I can't justify what she's saying.

889
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't get it, man, I just don't get it.

890
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: Oh well, I think you are correct. I think maybe

891
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: we should break this up into a second part because again,

892
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: really sixteen minutes seconds in.

893
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Sixteen minutes of me being angry.

894
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: And again, you know, once we get past about the

895
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: twenty five minute mark, you guys start to talk about

896
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: some of your fun memories.

897
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 2: And going to Fort Lauderdale together and hang it out.

898
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if we dive in deeper and

899
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: find other things that we can talk about, we'll do

900
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: a part two. But this, this was the gist of it.

901
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: I was just trying to get in her brain and

902
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: learn a little bit more about what she went through.

903
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: And I really didn't learn that much because I don't

904
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: know what's fact and what's fiction. To be honest with you,

905
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: I really don't and I don't know. I mean, you

906
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: guys can have your take on it, but it's it's

907
00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: super frustrating just because I and everybody says to me,

908
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: why do you say she's a good person, because the

909
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: timey I knew and the timey I hung out with

910
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: years ago was a good person. The timing I was

911
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: with that Russell Kate was a good person to me.

912
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't there when she did all this other stuff,

913
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like a lot of the

914
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: things that she did in her life were wrong. A

915
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: lot of the things she told me she never did,

916
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: a lot of the things with Chris she told me

917
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: weren't true. Who do I believe? Do I believe her

918
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: or do I believe everybody else? It's hard when it's

919
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: your friend. You want to give them the benefit of

920
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: the dell, you know, you want to believe in them.

921
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: You want to help them. That's all I'm saying. I

922
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: just wish these fans would stop chastising me for trying

923
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: to help a person, trying to be a friend to

924
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: a person, because sometimes all one person needs is somebody

925
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: to believe in them, and if they get that, sometimes

926
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: they turn their life around. Unfortunately, I wasn't her person,

927
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: and it you know, it didn't matter what I said,

928
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: because she was going to do her own thing anyway.

929
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: So that that's where we're at, and that's it.

930
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 3: You're a good friend, and I want you to know

931
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: that as we wrap this up, you're a good friend.

932
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: I've seen nothing but passion. I've seen nothing but you

933
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: doing all you could in this video. Everything we've covered,

934
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: you know, the tears that you shed today, but additionally,

935
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: when we covered the dark side of the Ring episode

936
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: this past summer, and there's nothing more that you could

937
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: have done. And even though I could even say when

938
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: she came out of jail and we were recording shows,

939
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: and you know, you told me what was going on,

940
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: and you know, after she went back in, I saw

941
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: the passion.

942
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: So you are a good friend.

943
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that. I just I'm so sick of

944
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: fans telling me how crappy I am and I'm a

945
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: bad judge of character and all this stuff. And it's

946
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: just like, you know, I just I tried. I just

947
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: tried to be there for her. And I would do

948
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: it for any of my friends. I would do it

949
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: for you. I would do it for any of my

950
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: friends who I care about. And sometimes you have to

951
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: show tough love. You don't always get the results you want.

952
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: But at least I know in my heart that I

953
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: tried to be there for her, and I tried to

954
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: help her and it just didn't work out. And it's frustrating.

955
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: But you know again, fifteen years is a long time

956
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: if she's able to get out, and what if sixty five,

957
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: sixty six years old or something, she'll be Hopefully she'll

958
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: be healthy enough to enjoy the rest of her life

959
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: and walk the street and narrow and learn from this.

960
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much like that horse that you led to

961
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: the water, you could tell those fans, like a wise

962
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 3: man once said to a group of people, before they.

963
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: Can all kiss yours? Yeah, how about that?

964
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: How about that? All right?

965
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 3: Well, listen can wrap it up for twenty twenty three

966
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: for us.

967
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: We will not be back.

968
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: Until twenty twenty four on the iHeartRadio airwaves. So looking

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Speaker 3: back on the first you know, month and change here

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Speaker 3: with iHeartRadio, I think it's been great.

971
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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts so far, Queen of Extreme.

972
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm just super excited for twenty twenty four and the

973
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979
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982
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Speaker 1: I'm excited for the future.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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986
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