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Speaker 1: It's now officially open. This is Draft season.

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Speaker 2: John Shplt Tony Pauline with you. The NFL regular season

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Speaker 2: us today is the man who runs the show down

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Speaker 2: at the Shrine Bowl, the one and only friend of

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Speaker 2: the program, Eric Galco.

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Speaker 1: Eric, thanks for being with us today. Man, How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great? Guys? How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: We're great?

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Speaker 2: So let's start here, second year of the process where

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Speaker 2: you don't have to be a senior, right, anybody can

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Speaker 2: go play in these games. How has it been trying

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Speaker 2: to get commitments? We're still on the zone here now.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna air on Wednesday this week. We're recording

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Speaker 2: on Monday. Guys can still kind of dip their fee

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Speaker 1: And stuff like that. How was the process gone this

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Speaker 1: year for you?

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Speaker 3: No, it's awesome. I think I said last we talking

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Speaker 3: about this, and I've told the NFL League office this

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Speaker 3: and agents. Is that the benefit of this rule It's

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Speaker 3: not just so All Star Games can have juniors, but

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Speaker 3: that juniors and their agents and their teams can get

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Speaker 3: more information. Right, if a junior is like, hey, you

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Speaker 3: know what, you know our staff and our scouting team,

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Speaker 3: other All Star games and their scouting team, NFL feedback

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Speaker 3: is not saying this guy should be invited, or more importantly,

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Speaker 3: we can kind of convey the information as to why

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Speaker 3: they've not been invited. They can really help underclass to

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Speaker 3: make decisions. So I'm trying to be as big of

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Speaker 3: a player radvoc as I can be and giving players

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Speaker 3: information to advocate for them to make sure they know

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Speaker 3: what they're getting into if they come out for the

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Speaker 3: draft has been awesome. So we've got a bunch of

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Speaker 3: juniors that'll be at the trin And Bowl this year.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they've All Star Games will as well. And

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Speaker 3: it's been great to kind of give information back.

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Speaker 2: And how about the class in general? A lot of

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Speaker 2: people talking about this being an extremely deep class. Eric

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Speaker 2: Beans again, all the COVID year guys that all got

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Speaker 2: the bonus year and all that stuff, they're in the

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Speaker 2: class this year. Have you found this has been a

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Speaker 2: much deeper pool of talent to choose from when you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's been at some positions, for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think some spots are a little bit leaner. And again,

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Speaker 3: for every time we have a COVID guy, we have

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Speaker 3: guys that can get a surprising year of villige ability

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Speaker 3: or now thanks to Diego Pave, a lot of guys

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Speaker 3: way to get guys who back to school, which is great.

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Speaker 3: These guys having options, you know, we forget so quickly.

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Speaker 3: Seven years ago, guys were declaring for the draft because

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Speaker 3: to have these guys have options. But I would say overall,

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Speaker 3: it's definitely deeper than last year. I think more so.

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Speaker 3: When I think of deeper, I don't think of number

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Speaker 3: that's subjective. I think there's more guys NFL teams would

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Speaker 3: makes it challenging for us to figure out who are

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Speaker 3: Is really difficult because there may be last year they

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Speaker 3: may have been three or fifty guys to choose from.

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Speaker 3: This year, there's five hundred guys to choose from to

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Speaker 4: Tony mc grek, Let's talk about the quarterbacks. You know,

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Speaker 4: I go back to the days when players like David

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Speaker 4: Carr and Joey Harrington played in the Shrine Bowl. You

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Speaker 4: got probably the top quarterback in the class this year,

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Speaker 4: ainshad Door Sanders. That's going to be at your game.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 3: He's a good player. He's a good player. We're hoping

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Speaker 3: he's the first first overall pick quarterback from the Shrine

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Speaker 3: Bowls since John Elway. I think that's my history is

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Speaker 3: right there. But he's a he had an incredible college career,

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Speaker 3: he is incredibly selfless. I got you to spend some

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Speaker 3: I think Shudder has done and shown right stay in

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Speaker 3: can't question how the fact that he leads his teammates

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Speaker 3: But again he's someone that is beloved by his teammates

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm curious, and you kind of answered this already, Aric,

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Speaker 2: that goes along with drafting Shad or Sanders, right, everything

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Speaker 3: Your game, It's been awesome because it's not like it

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Speaker 3: I've always seen him as somebody who really cares about

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Speaker 3: That discussion said yep, he's gonna go, and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: And they weighed the pros and cons. It wasn't a recruitment,

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Speaker 3: sometimes a negative like we forget that, like, hey, Steph

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Speaker 3: And same thing for Shadur. He's gonna walk in day one.

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Speaker 3: He's going to have his dad in a huge role

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Speaker 3: like Shadur can not only have seen it with his dad,

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Speaker 4: You know, everyone's gonna be talking about Shador Sanders, but

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Speaker 4: one quarterback I'm really excited to see play at the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know who is going to be in

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Speaker 3: know there's a scenario where Kyle is a discussion to

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Speaker 3: Kyle has already been through getting bench getting cut in

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Speaker 3: he's already shown so much resilience. That's one of the

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Speaker 3: at SIRA because again, all the off field stuff really

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Speaker 3: big calm of Court fan. We invited him early. I

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Speaker 3: your point, Tony, people maybe not talk about him in

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Speaker 3: Travis Hunter at one, two or three, and maybe Kyle's

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Speaker 3: our guy in round two, and hey, a year ago

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Speaker 3: at this time, Tony, you know as well as I do,

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Speaker 3: people weren't sure Bone Knicks or Michael Pennox were first

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Speaker 3: And this year we've got two consensus quarterbacks, a couple

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Speaker 3: It feels like the tiers are a little bit developed

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Speaker 4: Still, there are downbacks. You know, you were deciding before

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Speaker 3: you're absolutely right, Tony. He is viewed by NFL teams

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Speaker 3: the fourth threes. Knock on wood that he can get there.

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Speaker 3: They'll be at the combine. Of course, he's shown the

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Speaker 4: This is, in my opinion, probably the best position group

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Speaker 2: What you'd do or two receivers at Tony and I

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Speaker 4: of development in his game. Not the fastest guy, but

433
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Speaker 4: someone who knows how to separate, someone who knows how

434
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Speaker 4: to get open and catches everything that's thrown in his direction.

435
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Speaker 3: The Triple Crown winner. Yeah, production, it's hard to argue with.

436
00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,520
Speaker 3: And I know some debate about that in terms of

437
00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,440
Speaker 3: you know, as that matter. I think you know, every

438
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,080
Speaker 3: Bolittannikov finalist has been drafted by US two in the

439
00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,240
Speaker 3: last twenty years. For what it's worth. When NFL teams

440
00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,520
Speaker 3: are maybe can be locked in on trades sometimes when

441
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,560
Speaker 3: the guy produces that much in the way he's done it.

442
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,800
Speaker 3: To keep mind, he's a former quarterbacks. He's not like

443
00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,880
Speaker 3: been playing receiver for you know, ten years. He's adjusted

444
00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,960
Speaker 3: the position and within two or three years he led

445
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,919
Speaker 3: the country and receiving yards and receptions and touchdowns. So

446
00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,520
Speaker 3: I think his his size is undeniable. They abible to

447
00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,920
Speaker 3: win the red zones, really impressive. The ball skills are there,

448
00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,920
Speaker 3: but I think people kind of lose track of little

449
00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,600
Speaker 3: but is that he's still getting better as a receiver.

450
00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,280
Speaker 3: He is not a maxed out six year player at receiver.

451
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,440
Speaker 3: He is still as sending as a talent. I think

452
00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,320
Speaker 3: if and when he tests well at the NFL combine,

453
00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,040
Speaker 3: he's going to go from being a fun, productive late

454
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Speaker 3: round pick to a guy team for saying, well, why

455
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Speaker 3: can't he be Phuku Nakuwa, Like why are we waiting

456
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Speaker 3: on this guy? He's produced, he's big, he's strong, he's

457
00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,320
Speaker 3: going to test pretty well, Like, okay, why is this

458
00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,040
Speaker 3: guy not going much much earlier? Too? So I think

459
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Speaker 3: despite him producing as much as he did, I thank

460
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Speaker 3: people are still sleeping on Nick Nash. I'm glad you're

461
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Speaker 3: not Tony. That's why you're one of the.

462
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Speaker 1: Best of his are you?

463
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Speaker 2: You talked about guys having options, right, I think one

464
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,800
Speaker 2: of those guys is tied to Eli Stowers, who seems

465
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Speaker 2: to be contemplating a potential big and an IL deal

466
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Speaker 2: from Vanderbilt. He's on your list. Do you have anything

467
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,199
Speaker 2: with the latest on him? Is he decides how he

468
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Speaker 2: wants to navigate his NFL future?

469
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Speaker 3: No news? I mean, hey, one thing's unsurprising is he's

470
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,920
Speaker 3: a smart guy right at Vanderbilt. He knows what he's

471
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Speaker 3: doing and he wants to think by the process pretty

472
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Speaker 3: close to as well to Eli was going to be

473
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Speaker 3: I think a top Hunter pick this year if he

474
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Speaker 3: comes out. He's one of the better athletes. He has

475
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,080
Speaker 3: a lot of similarities honestly to David Njoku. So I'm

476
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Speaker 3: not sure what his ceiling is going to be too.

477
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Speaker 3: But he's weighing a lot of things. I won't try

478
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Speaker 3: all the detail, super he's weighing a lot of things

479
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,120
Speaker 3: that make a lot of sense. I think everyone knew

480
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,000
Speaker 3: kind of what I think if everyone knew what these

481
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Speaker 3: guys were really thinking about from an ANIL perspective, not

482
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Speaker 3: just dollars, but what's going on in their lives and

483
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,280
Speaker 3: other things are looking to do after football or during

484
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Speaker 3: football makes a lot more sense to so Eli's a

485
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Speaker 3: heck of a tied time. We love to have miser

486
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Speaker 3: at the shrine Bolt, but I think he make decisions

487
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Speaker 3: here pretty soon.

488
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Speaker 4: Two tight ends that we're going to see, both coming

489
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Speaker 4: off of injury. One guy thought took a massive improvement

490
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Speaker 4: this year, Rondi Goatson of Syrahcuse and then Liche of Iowa,

491
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 4: which has been a tight end producing factory for the

492
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Speaker 4: NFL for more than a decade.

493
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke's gotten a little bit forgotten about because I

494
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,479
Speaker 3: think two years ago in last year, he was like, oh,

495
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Speaker 3: it's got gonna be an obvious top tight end in

496
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Speaker 3: the draft class. And I think the injury kind of

497
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 3: limit him a little bit and coming back from it,

498
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 3: but I think he's fully back and I think he

499
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 3: is a guy that's going to be a plug and

500
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Speaker 3: play white tight end. Maybe not Sam Laporta, but you're

501
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Speaker 3: telling me that Luke Lache is a starting tight end

502
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Speaker 3: for somebody week five, week six in the NFL. I

503
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 3: won't be surprised. He's a plug and play smart, can

504
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,639
Speaker 3: block well, can play in space, can be a vertical

505
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 3: receiver who works in the perimeter too. When now that

506
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Speaker 3: he's back to one hundred percent, he's a heck of

507
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Speaker 3: a player, Tony, And that's a great called by you.

508
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Speaker 3: I think Gaston early on it was kind of like

509
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Speaker 3: is he a tight end or is he just kind

510
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 3: of just playing there a little bit? But he's really

511
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Speaker 3: taken an effort, especially the second half of this year,

512
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Speaker 3: to be a great blocker, And I think the second

513
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Speaker 3: half of the year he's given really a great effort

514
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 3: as a blocker, both that receiver and playing more in line.

515
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Speaker 3: He can add the weight to be a tight end,

516
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 3: for sure, but man, the second half of when Syracuse

517
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 3: needed a big play or a red zone target, like

518
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 3: they just said, Aronde go out there plays. I think

519
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 3: if you watch the second half of the season for

520
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 3: Erande gas and at Syracuse, and then you watch Mikeyasiki

521
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 3: this year how the Bengals use them, it's the same thing,

522
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 3: right they are saying, Hey, Mike, go one a one

523
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: on one matchup. You're bigger, stronger, and still fluid at

524
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 3: the catchpoint to make it play in the red zone

525
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 3: or on third down. I think there's a lot of

526
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Speaker 3: similarities there too, And again, as long as Gatston tests

527
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Speaker 3: well wait the way he should, I think people will

528
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Speaker 3: help be underrating how early in the draft he can go,

529
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Speaker 3: because if he truly isn't Mike AA Sicky type of player,

530
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 3: every NFL team's gonna want that matchup guy at tight

531
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Speaker 3: end slash receiver in the red zone this season.

532
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Speaker 4: Jump to the offensive line. Two small school guys, Thomas

533
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Speaker 4: Perry of Middlebury who was on Bruce Felbin's Freak Freaseless

534
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 4: before the season, and Gareth Warren from Lindenwood, who I'm

535
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 4: told is an athletic freak himself. Six ' five and

536
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Speaker 4: change three hundred and thirty pounds could run in the

537
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Speaker 4: four nine to forty what weeks Beck From both of

538
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Speaker 4: these guys.

539
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Thomas Perry is physically strong and really impressive in

540
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 3: that way. He's streaming with Duke many Weather has for

541
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Speaker 3: last year, and I think you can talk to Duke

542
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 3: as well too and say, hey, Duke's not shy about it.

543
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Speaker 3: He believes Thomas Perry is going to be a very

544
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 3: similar to like an Alien Marpette type player. And we're

545
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Speaker 3: bullish on Thomas. He made huge drides, you know, One

546
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 3: of that matters a lot and watching small school players

547
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: is not only do they dominate the film, but when

548
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 3: you watch the year before to the next year, are

549
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 3: they ascending in a really like exponential way. And you

550
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: watch his junior stuff versus senior stuff, and you see

551
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: Thomas Ferry is getting way better every year. I think

552
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Speaker 3: between the fact that he's athletic, super strong, has the

553
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Speaker 3: length to play guard and center, and in fact he's

554
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: gotten better every year, I think he's a draft pick

555
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Speaker 3: and also a guy teams are saying, we don't want

556
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Speaker 3: to mess with the next Alany Marpett. I think for

557
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: Gareth Warren, I won't real kind of what the numbers are,

558
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: but I saw some of his numbers when he got

559
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: to training early on because they're seen in early and

560
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: I had to verify with like three other people to

561
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: make sure that this was right and these numbers were correct.

562
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Speaker 3: I think he is going to be as a chance

563
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: to be one of the most athletic offensive tackles in

564
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Speaker 3: the last couple of years, and I think I know

565
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 3: can't leave Platt at relative athletics wo or Ras like

566
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Speaker 3: I would be surprised if Gareth Warren is not a

567
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 3: ninety nine percent tile offensive line this year's draft class.

568
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Speaker 3: That's why we invite him. We believe me athletic trades. Again,

569
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 3: he's getting better as well too, So good call by

570
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Speaker 3: Tony And again I think Warren, based on some of

571
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: the stuff he's on so far, testing wise, if it

572
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 3: went at the NFL combine, he's going to really be

573
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: one of the biggest naps to learn in late February

574
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Speaker 3: early March.

575
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Speaker 4: You know, so you talk about athletic linemen who have improved,

576
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: and I'll set it up like this, last year, CJ.

577
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: Hansen had a real good week of practice at your game.

578
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 4: He's now on the active roster for the Chiefs. His

579
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Speaker 4: former teammate at holy Cross Luke Newman, transferred to Michigan State.

580
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Speaker 4: And I mean you talk about a zone blocking guard,

581
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 4: you talk about a guy that can get out on

582
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Speaker 4: a second level pull across the line of scrimmage. I

583
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 4: mean Newman to me, showed improvement this year at a

584
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Speaker 4: much higher level of competition.

585
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's a great mover. I think I

586
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: took up the holy Cross on when he played left

587
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: tackle that he can really move in space at a

588
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: high level, can work laterally left him too is right

589
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 3: as well too, and I think he's shown that at

590
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: Michigan State playing obviously more inside the fact that he

591
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: can move at a really special level as a zone blocker.

592
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 3: I think early on at Michigan State. Keep mind, he

593
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Speaker 3: had a kind of got there finishing up the spring

594
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Speaker 3: season and spring degree at holy Cross kind of got

595
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Speaker 3: to Michigan State a little bit. But again, the second

596
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: half of the season with most of these transfers, really

597
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 3: what you want to look at. And I think for

598
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: Luke Newman showed the ability to win with power but

599
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: also continue to win in space. I think for zone

600
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: blocking teams and teams want to get him out in

601
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 3: space a little bit more. He's going to be a

602
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 3: really really covered offensive lineman. And again I think I

603
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: have looked at too many people in the media and

604
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 3: kind of where they have players as well too. But

605
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: don't be surprised if Luke Newman is one of the

606
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Speaker 3: higher ranked guards by a lot of NFL teams coming

607
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: into the draft process because he's going to test well.

608
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: But the movements there on film that's really really hard

609
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 3: to find for our guard, slash tackle, slash center. He

610
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Speaker 3: could play all three well.

611
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Speaker 4: One last offensive lineman for me. In contrast to newman

612
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: Nash Jones of Texas State, who really wasn't on the

613
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Speaker 4: roster on the scouting radar before the season, I wasn't

614
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Speaker 4: spoken about. I mean, here's a guy who looks like

615
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 4: in an NFL offensive line, a big, thick lower body.

616
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: I mean, just dominates opponents at the line of scrimmage.

617
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Speaker 3: I guess talk about Nash Jones. I'll credit our director

618
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 3: of College down and Shane Coughlin, because a year ago

619
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Speaker 3: we invited Nash Jones a year ago before anybe else

620
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Speaker 3: real knew aboutim, but we were bullished on him as a

621
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Speaker 3: player a year ago. He's made great rides but physically imposing,

622
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: physically impressive high football IQ. Talking to as head coach GJ. Kenny,

623
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: the last two years he's made strides there. If he

624
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: can't play center, that's okay. He can really be a

625
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: high football IQ guard, tackle, convert, but really really impressive.

626
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Speaker 3: I think short area movement, really tackle a handle defensive

627
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Speaker 3: tackles that are much bigger than him, guys that are

628
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: three sixty three seventy at the NFL level. He'll handle

629
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 3: with pretty good control. And also we can get out

630
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: in space as he's played tackleles Kylaker as well too,

631
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Speaker 3: So we've been a fan of Mashones for two years

632
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: now and again grand to our skuting staff are being

633
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 3: bullish on a Texas State guy a year for NFL

634
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: teams know about him, but no doubt he's activate player.

635
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 4: We'll move to the defensive side of the ball. You've

636
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 4: got to zero technique those tackle types. If you'd like

637
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 4: Jordan Phillips Maryland, who I believe is a red shirt sophomore,

638
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: and CJ. West, the Kent State transfer who played in

639
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 4: Indiana this year and had a terrific season. I mean,

640
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 4: both of these guys are just nasty, punch in the face,

641
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 4: do the little things right type of defensive tackles.

642
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think both those guys have a great chance

643
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: to be top hundred picks. It's hard to find guys

644
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: that are big as that that can move, that have

645
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: had successful productive seasons, you know, not necessarily sacks, but

646
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: also pressures and just generating impact on the quarterback. But

647
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Speaker 3: also talking to both those guys really really high character

648
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Speaker 3: and really smart guys, like you can tell pretty quickly

649
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: finding guys that big, who can move that well, who

650
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: can process the way they can. I think both those

651
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: guys will rise to the top hundred picks, and no

652
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: doubt they have some similarities. I think cj can be

653
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: a little more effective as a penetrator. I think Jordan

654
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: eats up space at a really, really high level for

655
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: a guy that big. But both those guys are highly,

656
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: highly viewed by NFL teams and they'll be hotly fought

657
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: after on draft weekend because I think after a good

658
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl week and then again at the NFL combine,

659
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Speaker 3: I think both those guys have a great chance and

660
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: only be top hundred picks, but guys that are coveted

661
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: quite a bit when the second third round comes around.

662
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 4: Everybody loves the small edge rushers, and when you talk

663
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 4: about draft Twitter world, they talk and talk about small

664
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Speaker 4: edge rushers, to talk about Donovan Ezekie Ruka of Boston

665
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 4: College and Kyle Kinnard of South Carolina. Yet somehow Antoine

666
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 4: Ryland Powell is often left out of the conversation. This

667
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: is a guy with twenty sixteen sacks and twenty tackles

668
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: for the loss, and when you put on the Virginia

669
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 4: Tech tape, all this guy does is recavoc behind the

670
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: opponent's line of scrimmage.

671
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a classic example of the use of bullet

672
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: of china shop like. He is always active in the backfield,

673
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 3: making I think his offensive line in front of him

674
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: really uncomftable the entire time. And sometimes when guys have

675
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: a lot of production, and you know your scouts or

676
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Speaker 3: meilss not not a huge fan of him, you wonder,

677
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 3: all right, some of those sacks kind of empty sacks, right, Hey,

678
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 3: do he kind of just clean up five or six

679
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: of those? Maybe one or two, but all those are

680
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: really earned to your point, And there's a world where

681
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: he's got twenty sacks. The way he gets pressure on

682
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: the quarterback and wave forced quarterback to make plays and

683
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: decisions early too, when we kind of forget sometimes that, hey,

684
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: a sack only comes when a guy is not throwing

685
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Speaker 3: the ball away or getting the ball out quicker too.

686
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: And I think if you look at his pressures, him

687
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: and Elijah Roberts, other player of the trine ball this

688
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: year too leave the country and pressure is forced. So

689
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: I think overall, more activity in the backfield is going

690
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: to lead to a lot more success in the NFL.

691
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: And I know Paul Ryland is not the biggest guy,

692
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: but again to your point, Tony, no doubt he's going

693
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 3: to get drap to no doubt playing the NFL in summersfects.

694
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 3: But again, don't be surprised if he's a fourth fifth

695
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: round pick that's playing in a rotation early on its

696
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: NFL career.

697
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 4: Three linebackers will talk about it, and they're all different

698
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 4: in their styles. Aaron Smith of South Carolina State, a

699
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 4: smaller one gap running chase pursuit minebacker who just he

700
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: may be small in stature, but he plays with a

701
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: nasty attitude.

702
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: Super tough, can play in the box at really high level.

703
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 3: It's gotten better as a coverage guy vertically and on

704
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 3: the perimeer, which I think is really really important too.

705
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: But he'll be a guy that can handle the green

706
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: dot the NFL level. NFL teams want to know that

707
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: at the Trine Bowl, in our interview process and during practice.

708
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: But I think if he can prove, which I'm sure

709
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: he will, it is the NFL teams he can be

710
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: that Mike linebacker and where that green dot and has

711
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: the range to play in space and vertically to be

712
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: one of the higher HBCU players draft, not just this year,

713
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: but in the last couple of years. And I think

714
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: as right now he's our only HBCU college player so far,

715
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: but he's seen the represent it well and he'll be

716
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: not only a draft pick, but a guy NFL teams

717
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: are covering on draft weekend, if not Day two, early

718
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: Day three, because like you said, Tony, he's he's a guy.

719
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: NFL team still want it. They can be long into

720
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 3: play in space, but really be a thumper on the inside.

721
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: Those guys are harder.

722
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: I know.

723
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, guy transferred from Georgia to Kentucky, Jamis Dumas Johnson,

724
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 4: who I thought, if he entered the draft last year,

725
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: would have been a top one hundred pick. I mean,

726
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: he's bigger, he's stouter, he's toughest.

727
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: Nails didn't get worse, right, guys don't get worse usually.

728
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right, Tony. He's a guy that

729
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: is a plug and play I think in a three

730
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: four defense inside linebacker he plays tomorrow. He could do

731
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: more than that, but I think he's a plug and

732
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: play starter in the NFL, and NFL teams are devaluing linebackers,

733
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: maybe more aggressively than running backs. In the draft process

734
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, and especially guys that are

735
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: more considered first second down guys early on their career.

736
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: Doomus Johnson can do more than that, but I think

737
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: right now, short term, that's what he's best at. But

738
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: to your point, Tony, you want an NFL starter as

739
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: a linebacker, inside guy in a three to four or

740
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: maybe a mic a four to three. He's gonna start

741
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: for you tomorrow in the NFL. I think no doubt

742
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: about that win a year ago. He's only gotten better

743
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: at Kentucky and he's gonna be a kip A player.

744
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: And another guy who kind of is very often not

745
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: mentioned at all, Jay Higgins of Iaiowa. Not the biggest guy,

746
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: not the fastest guy, but I mean his instincts, he's

747
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: thinking white years ahead of everyone else on the field.

748
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: Well does it have mental lapses? And he's always willing

749
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: to throw his body into the affraid to make the tackle.

750
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Speaker 3: Yeah ninety nine on n see Football twenty twenty five.

751
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: I've been to one of the highest ranked players in

752
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: the game, backs to where those scouts. I like those scouts.

753
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: They do a great job. But talk about a green

754
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: doc guy talking to Ja a couple of times, and

755
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: personality is going to be affusive for NFL teams and

756
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: seeing what he's like. But again, in terms of football,

757
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: IQ Tony like he is. It's cliche to say quarterback

758
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: of the defense, but I think a lot of our

759
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: guys can be green dock guys to the trin Bol

760
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: this year. I think NFL teams will leave the process

761
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: saying I am positive Jay Higgins can lead our defense

762
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: tomorrow in the NFL. So I think some teams are

763
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: a little bit lower because you're like, well some of

764
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: the in space stuff for the athletic stuff. I think

765
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: he'll prove those things wrong. But I think at the

766
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 3: end of the day, whether he's a first round pick,

767
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: a third round pick, or a seventh round pick against

768
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Speaker 3: Jay's going to be a guy the NFL team to

769
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: come on to start briarly on the NFL career. I

770
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: know two years ago we had a guy Nate Lambman

771
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: from Colorado who was the best run defender I've seen

772
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: the last couple draft classes still, and he went on

773
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: draft because he's the first second down guy only, but

774
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: he was smart, physical, tough, and he's sorry for the

775
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: Falcons ever since as a UDFA, I think Jay Higgins

776
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: has a notch above him, and I think similar career.

777
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: LI likes Fan Jays is going to play a long

778
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: time in the NFL and be a starting linebacker for

779
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: a lot of NFL teams.

780
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Shannon Rebel at defensive

781
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: back real quick, Eric. He heard his knee early in

782
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: the year. He was a small school guy. A lot

783
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: of people projected him as a first round pick. Is

784
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: he going to be a participate at all? Where is

785
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: he in terms of his recovery?

786
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: No. Our process is if you were invited to the

787
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl and you have a season ending injury that season,

788
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: we of course still honor your ability to come to

789
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: the trine Ball and take himut of interview process. Our

790
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: interview process is, you know, I'm proud of It's great.

791
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: We've got eighteen hours of time with NFL teams, meaning

792
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: all of our players can knock out a lot of

793
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: their interviews from the combine process. And for a lot

794
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: of these guys, the interviews are way more important on

795
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: the field stuff. And I think for a guy like

796
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 3: Shavon who is not going to benefit from that if

797
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: he wasn't able to do that I think is super important.

798
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: He's a great personality. He likes to talk, he likes

799
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: to hear about a story, he likes to share where

800
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: he's come from and where he's going. I think for

801
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: NFL teams they'll want to leave the Shrine Bull saying, Okay,

802
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: he may have helped with the combine, but we feel

803
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: good about the character in person and who he is.

804
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: I think for Shavin because he won't be able to

805
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: work on the combine maybe pre draft, hopefully he will

806
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: the interviews what's really gonna matter for him and him

807
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: talking NFL teams, the whole draft process at the Shrine

808
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: Bol is going to be really really important. I think

809
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: he's going to crush those interviews. And I'll say it

810
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: right now, shavan Or will be a first round pick

811
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: despite maybe not doing any combine or protesting, because he's

812
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: that specially a player and a person.

813
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: And the thing is, you know, people say, well, chevon

814
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: Rabel only had five interviews at the Combine, but yeah,

815
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: at the Shrine Ball he interviewed with all thirty two teams.

816
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: So the importance of the interviews that the Shrine Bowl

817
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: can't be you know, can't be over state.

818
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: One thing we'll say is that every team can have

819
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: at least twenty to thirty minutes minimum with every player

820
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: on our roster. And that's more than the NFL Combine

821
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: gives to guys, right, And I guess that's what I'm

822
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: really proud of it. It takes a lot to do that,

823
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: and our schedule is tough to do that. But I

824
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: got like Shavon is going to leave. I remember Dave

825
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: Flowers had very few Combine interviews. Are our second interview

826
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: being in charge of the shrinebol because he didn't follow

827
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: the Srine Ball and it made his draft cross a

828
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: lot easier too. Is able to focus on the right

829
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: kind of things, focus on training was it will be

830
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: healthier the entire process long too. So it's an honor

831
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: chance to work with Shavan and help him with interview

832
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: prep and be honest team the rest of the way too.

833
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: And again NFL teams and media will be able to

834
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: see Shavon revel at the Shrine Bowl all week long

835
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: for interviews.

836
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you about two more defense backs and

837
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: we'll let you get out of here, go back to

838
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: the CAAA. Isaiah Waxter, I mean a bigger tough, shutdown corner.

839
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a safety at the

840
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: next level. What do you think about Waxter? What are

841
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: we going to see from Waxter?

842
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll play a lot of corner, play some safety

843
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: as well too, because I think teams agree with that

844
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: he could play safety as well too. I think he's

845
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: going to be one of the best athletic testers of

846
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: the six to one plus corners in this draft class.

847
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a plug and play

848
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: gunner for NFL teams and usually about four or five

849
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: I'll call him gunner. First prospects get drafted on Day three.

850
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: Guys that are gunners, we'll see where they're at afterwards.

851
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: Guy like bub Means Yer ago Right was drafted to

852
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: be a gunner, but also played receiver for the Saints

853
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: as a rookie pretty early on too, And I think

854
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: that's how Waxter not only makes the team that makes

855
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: an impact as a rookie, but his junior film was outstanding.

856
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: If you watch the game against Maryland this year when

857
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: he faced against Kayden Prather among others at Maryland, played

858
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: really well on the red zone, vertically down the field too,

859
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: and tell its injury stuff this year a little bit

860
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: to kind of overcome that, but no doubt he's one

861
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: of the more physically impressive corners in this year's draft class. Again,

862
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: he'll be a draft pick for NFL teams about saying, hey,

863
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: can he be a special teams guy early on, which

864
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: will show at the Trian Bull as well as athletic

865
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: testing wise. And then no doubt showed that a corner

866
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: and safetyd in the tribal week of practice.

867
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to segue right into Maryland because the

868
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: last guy want to speak about is Glendon Miller, a

869
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: guy who the last two years has really impressed me.

870
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: He often plays over the slot receiver but can be

871
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: moved all over the field, terrific ball skills. He's also physical.

872
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see now the rise of bigger slot receivers

873
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: being more and more common with NFL teams or tight ends.

874
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: And no longer do you only mean Nickel, who's a

875
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 3: five eight, twitchy, quick guy. My guy like Bedia Bishop

876
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 3: like those guys are really important to have as an

877
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: every one in the NFL. But sometimes you want a

878
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: bigger corner or bigger safety to play inside, and Glennon

879
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: Miller is going to be able to be a guy

880
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: that can guard the Pukunakus of the world, the Mica

881
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: Sikis as well as hang at safety, and Berro was

882
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: successful in the run game as well too, So he's

883
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: a lot to appreciated right now. NFL teams liked him

884
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: a lot going into the season. That Maryland defense had

885
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: some struggles team, but overall, Glenn is as I think

886
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: well liked by a lot of scouts who know him well,

887
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: and I've seen the last two years and again I

888
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: think to your point, Tony, he's going to be coveted

889
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: as that Nickel first prospect. You can do a lot

890
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: more at safety, maybe even corner as well. During Shrine

891
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: Bowl week.

892
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you one last question and I'll

893
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: shut up for the rest of this shows.

894
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: A third one last question. I love it? Is it?

895
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: There you go?

896
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: The Shrine Ball going back forever has always had a

897
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 4: history of bringing Canadian prospects to their game. And last

898
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 4: year you hit a home run with quantest stickers. I

899
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 4: know it's from Tennessee, but he played in the CFL

900
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: and when the Jets put him on the field, he

901
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: was terrific. You're gonna be able to pull a rabbit

902
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: out of the hout from Canada this year or someone

903
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: who played in Canada.

904
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure it's a good question. I mean,

905
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: I could probably squint and say a guy was born

906
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: in Canada and it's playing the Shrine Bowl either. But

907
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: we've liked that that tradition of having Canadian players take

908
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: advantage of the Trine Bowl process as well too. But

909
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: at the same time, we're want to put a great

910
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: product on the field for NFL teams, and having one

911
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty really talent NFL players is most important

912
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: versus kind of of having you know, not gimmick but

913
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: kind of other players from different areas for no reason

914
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: or different reasons. So we'd love to We love that tradition.

915
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of great players from a Keeym

916
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: Hicks to now Quantest Stiggers that played in the Shrine

917
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: Bowl that came from Canada. But I'm not sure if

918
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: will this year too. But we still have three weeks left,

919
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens.

920
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: Eric, can't wait to see you down in First Go,

921
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: can't wait to hang out talk to you again. As

922
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: we get things starts start seeing these guys on the

923
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: field awesome. I know this is a busy time. We

924
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: appreciate you giving us some of your valuable time to

925
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: talk about the players heading down to the Shrining game

926
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 2: and anything else you want to tell the fans about.

927
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: The game of the floor is yours.

928
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: No, it works on it man at and T Stadium

929
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: for our one hundredth anniversary at the East West Shrine

930
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 3: bol It's incredible, one hundred games we've played in this event.

931
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: We've got some great Hall of famers, former Shrine Bowl

932
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: Hall of Famers, NFL Hall of Famer is going to

933
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 3: be there as well too, and a really special event.

934
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: We're again hopefully going to have an increase in draft

935
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: picks this issue and do our job on the football side.

936
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: We're really looking at having a great event for our players,

937
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 3: NFL teams, media, as well as all the great historical

938
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: players have played the Trine Bowl over the years too,

939
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: so we're excited to have our hundred year aniversary too,

940
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: and appreciate us be on and we'll see you down there.

941
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to see the Shrine bull. Eric,

942
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: thanks so much. Thanks guys, that's Eric Galco. Great job

943
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: from him, friend of ours.

944
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: Front of the program from the Shrine Bowl, and we

945
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: can't wait to see him down there in Frisco.

946
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: And he does a great job giving the media access.

947
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: We'll player interviews down there.

948
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: Tony and I will be obviously at practice the first

949
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: few days and breaking down everything we see right here

950
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: on draft season, and I'll be on the Giants Little

951
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: podcast to Do and all that stuff.

952
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: If you're a.

953
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: Giants fan, don't forget. Moodies is a proud partner of

954
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955
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957
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: Tony real quick before we say goodbye.

958
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: We'll have more time to obviously break all this Dan

959
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: as we get closer to the draft, and you know,

960
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: we see what team's doing for agency which will impact

961
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: team needs and all that stuff. But we do know

962
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: who the first eighteen teams will be selecting and what

963
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: order in the NFL draft until we get to the playoffs. Here,

964
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: I'll rattle off very quickly, and then I want to

965
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: go through just a couple bullet points here. Believe it

966
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: or not, there were ten teams that finished with five

967
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 2: or few were wins this year, which is a lot

968
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: for any NFL season. So the Titans, the Browns, and

969
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: the Giants were the only teams finishing with just three wins.

970
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: That's the order, Titans and one, Browns at two, Giants

971
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: at three. Let's go through those teams first. The Titans

972
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: and Browns and Giants certainly all are in need of

973
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: a quarterback in one way, shape or form. Curious to

974
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: see how that shakes out given the just Shaan Watson

975
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: situation in Cleveland and Tennessee doesn't look like Will Levis

976
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: is their guy, and the Giants I really don't have

977
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: a quarterback on the roster at all except for Tommy DeVito,

978
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: so I'll be curious to see how those teams handle

979
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: this draft in terms of the quarterback position with Sanders

980
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: Ward and then, of course, the consensus seems to be

981
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: that Travis Hunter is the top non quarterback player in

982
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: this draft class, so we'll see how it shakes out

983
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: between those three teams.

984
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: What will be interesting to see is does the fact

985
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: that Tennessee and Cleveland two teams that will likely, if

986
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 4: not almost definitely go quarterback if that helps Jyley Milroe.

987
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: And what I mean by the is you know Schidor

988
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: Sanders and Camboarder are gonna go, you know, one to

989
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: two in some order or another. Does that push Jalen

990
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 4: Milroe up? I mean a year ago, a year ago

991
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: at this time, did you think Michael Pennix was going

992
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 4: to be a first round pick? Did you think bon

993
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: Nicks was going to be a first round pick? And

994
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: look where they went. You know, people will discuss and

995
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: debate the Jalen Milroe back and forth. I'm a big

996
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: fan of his. I think that Tennessee and Cleveland being

997
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: selected one to two really impacts in a positive way.

998
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 4: Jalen Milroe.

999
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could push them off the board. You're right.

1000
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: Next set of teams Patriots at four they win their

1001
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: final game with the Bills resting everyone at four and

1002
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: thirteen Jaguars they loose. The Colts they picked fifth, Raiders sixth,

1003
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: Jets seventh, Panthers eight, Saints nine, and Bears tenth to

1004
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: round out the top ten. Tony and in that group,

1005
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: the Raiders certainly have a quarterback need the Jets potentially,

1006
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: and I mean, look, even if Aaron Rodgers is back,

1007
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: that's not a long term answer there, right, So they

1008
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: have a quarterback need as well. The Saints very well

1009
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: could have a quarterback needed and them or nine depending

1010
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: on what they do with Derek Carr. So a lot

1011
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: of teams need quarterbacks. And this ain't last year's class,

1012
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: but there's gonna be a lot of quarterbacks to fill

1013
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: those needs for all those teams.

1014
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: Well, the Raiders really wanted to move up and get

1015
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: you know, Jayden Daniels last year. I'm sure you know,

1016
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: if the right package is offered to a team like

1017
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: the Grounds, they may you know, foot flop with the Raiders.

1018
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 4: So the Raiders can get up and get their quarterback.

1019
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: And I mean, how ironic is it? Two months ago

1020
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: we're talking about Carolina having the first pick of the

1021
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: draft Bryce Young. His career is over Carolina. Yet things

1022
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 4: have kind of changed and now it looks like they're

1023
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 4: going to stay with Brychs Young because he played relatively

1024
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: well in the final two months of the season. Credit

1025
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: to him, and obviously they're out of the quarterback range.

1026
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, ironically, after a year one where people like, how

1027
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: could you be so dumb selecting Bryce Young over CJ Straud,

1028
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: then the final half of their second seasons.

1029
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: Bryce Young played better then c J.

1030
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: Stroud, So it's almost like you should have made determinations

1031
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: and how good players are after just their rookie year.

1032
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: It's funny how that goes, but you know, that's that's

1033
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 2: the NFL. And then let's go through eleven to eighteen.

1034
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: You got the forty nine ers, who I can't believe

1035
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: they're picking at eleventh in this draft, you know, because

1036
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: they need more opportunities to get good players. In San Francisco,

1037
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: Dallas at twelve, Miami at thirteen. Three teams that I

1038
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: think you would qualify as teams fans thought could be

1039
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 2: playoff teams this year, but all disappointed, whether it's because

1040
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: of injury or something else. Then you have Indianapolis, who

1041
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 2: were bringing back both their general manager and their head coach,

1042
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: and Trent balk and Shane Steiken. I'm sorry, Trent Balki

1043
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 2: is a part of me in Jacksville, but they're bringing

1044
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: back their entire team in Indianapolis, Atlanta, Arizona, the Bengals

1045
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: at seventeen, and then the Seahawks round things out at

1046
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: pick number eighteen.

1047
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: You know, you look at San Francisco at eleven, you

1048
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: look at Miami. Thirteen teams that had injuries, especially in

1049
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: Miami at the quarterback position. I mean, this may be

1050
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: this is an opportunity for them to add that final piece,

1051
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 4: so in the first round, early in the in the

1052
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: following rounds to maybe push them over the edge. Dallas.

1053
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 4: Who knows what's gonna happen in that organization. Indianapolis. I

1054
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: mean they're gonna roll with Anthony Richardson, and I like

1055
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: what Chris Ballad has done with his team's minus the

1056
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: quarterback position, which he never seems to get right. So

1057
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: that is an interesting situation.

1058
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Krek, Chris baward the GM in Indianapolis, thank you,

1059
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: though he had a brain freeze there for a second.

1060
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see what these teams decide to do

1061
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: as we head into the drafts and obviously as we

1062
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 2: get a better idea for team needs. You know, there

1063
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: could be Tony in this draft. Maybe fifteen guys with

1064
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: true first round grades. It's not gonna be a large number.

1065
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Last year, I was close to twenty four. It was

1066
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: a lot, and I think it's gonna be much much

1067
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: less this year. So trying to get a real impact

1068
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: player for these teams picking even around you know, thirteen

1069
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: or fourteen, depending on how they have these guys graded,

1070
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: could end up being tough. So it'll be fun to

1071
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: kind of digest this middle of the first round where

1072
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: I think we could see some movement given you know

1073
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: how short the first round grade list might be in

1074
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: this particular class.

1075
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Speaker 4: And we still got a wed on the underclass But

1076
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 4: I mean, is Derek Harmon at Oregon has he is

1077
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 4: he can officially you know, enter the draft. So many

1078
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 4: guys you know playing in the final four, and those

1079
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Speaker 4: those underclassmen get extra time. Remember January fifteenth used to

1080
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: be the hard date. Now that date has been pushed

1081
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: back to the end of January.

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Speaker 1: No question about it, Tony, good stuff, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Our next episode, we're going to be reacting to the

1084
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 2: semi finals of the college football playoffs. Those games will

1085
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: take place on Thursday and Friday. Tony and I we

1086
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: were recording the following Monday morning, so we'll react to that.

1087
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: We'll look forward to the college football Finals the following weekend.

1088
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Is it a Monday night again, the National championship game?

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00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: I'm assuming it's the Monday Monday night, and then.

1090
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: We will record the day after that game.

1091
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: Reacting to that and then believe it or not, that's

1092
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: basically our Shrine Bowl preview show as well, because and

1093
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: Senior Balls will be off on that Friday to first

1094
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 2: go and then mobile for those two games. So there's

1095
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: really no break this year, right, you know in past

1096
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: years we've done this, you kind of have two weeks

1097
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: in January, there's not a whole lot going on, and

1098
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: you know you're trying to figure out how to do content.

1099
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: Well, not this year.

1100
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: We are rolling and then we get back, we'll review

1101
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl and then just three weeks after that

1102
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: we're off to the Combine. So a lot of stuff

1103
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: going on, Tony. It should be a fun next couple

1104
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: of months.

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Speaker 4: Gonna be very busy and listen, draft, draft, draft, that's

1106
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: what some of us live for.

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Speaker 1: What do you have on sports? Key to coming up?

1108
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Speaker 4: We've got divisional team mocks as far as the divisions

1109
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: are concerned, I think with the NFC North just went

1110
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: up today, go five rounds deep for each team in

1111
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 4: each division, and later on this week I'll have a

1112
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Speaker 4: full first round.

1113
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Speaker 2: Mack can't wait to see it. We'll talk about that

1114
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Speaker 2: on next week's show as well. For Tony poline from

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Speaker 2: sports Keta. I'm John Schmulk. This has been Draft Season,

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Speaker 2: presented by Moodies. Thanks for being with us. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you next time.

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Speaker 1: Everybody