1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:21,668 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,428 --> 00:00:23,908 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:24,788 --> 00:00:27,948 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I'm Jane Slater, joined by Jason mccordy. We've 5 00:00:27,948 --> 00:00:31,628 Speaker 3: also got Peter Strader and Kyle Brandt here, guys. We 6 00:00:31,748 --> 00:00:34,868 Speaker 3: kicked things off in a run for the quarterback right 7 00:00:34,868 --> 00:00:38,108 Speaker 3: off the bat with Caleb Williams last night. Man, I 8 00:00:38,108 --> 00:00:41,228 Speaker 3: don't think we expected six quarterbacks to essentially come off 9 00:00:41,228 --> 00:00:43,948 Speaker 3: the board, but let's just go ahead and get your 10 00:00:44,028 --> 00:00:46,548 Speaker 3: quick thoughts on that before we jump into our lead block. 11 00:00:46,908 --> 00:00:48,308 Speaker 2: We'll just do the lead block. 12 00:00:49,268 --> 00:00:50,148 Speaker 4: Who won the night? 13 00:00:50,468 --> 00:00:53,188 Speaker 3: Guys, When we start talking about this draft, obviously we 14 00:00:53,268 --> 00:00:56,428 Speaker 3: had Caleb Williams coming off the board, and then after 15 00:00:56,508 --> 00:00:58,828 Speaker 3: that we were talking about as many as six coming 16 00:00:58,828 --> 00:01:02,988 Speaker 3: off at the quarterback position. We saw just that. But 17 00:01:03,068 --> 00:01:05,468 Speaker 3: I am curious when you go look at this draft. 18 00:01:05,548 --> 00:01:09,148 Speaker 3: Obviously we focused on Caleb Williams. We've talked about JJ 19 00:01:09,308 --> 00:01:12,348 Speaker 3: McCarthy going to Minnesota, bo Nix, a bit of a 20 00:01:12,388 --> 00:01:15,148 Speaker 3: shocker going to Denver. But if you had to pick 21 00:01:15,148 --> 00:01:16,948 Speaker 3: out of all the thirty two teams that picked in 22 00:01:16,988 --> 00:01:19,868 Speaker 3: that first round, Kyle will start with you, who would 23 00:01:19,948 --> 00:01:20,988 Speaker 3: you say, one. 24 00:01:20,908 --> 00:01:23,508 Speaker 5: Night, one well, I have a few things to say 25 00:01:23,548 --> 00:01:25,148 Speaker 5: about what the Chicago Bears did last night. 26 00:01:25,188 --> 00:01:27,868 Speaker 4: I'm going to get comfortable. I got time today, Jason. 27 00:01:29,028 --> 00:01:32,068 Speaker 5: I saw Caleb Williams come on to the stage and scream, 28 00:01:32,308 --> 00:01:34,388 Speaker 5: and I think he was really mirroring a lot of 29 00:01:34,388 --> 00:01:36,628 Speaker 5: what the Bears fans were doing. But I have a 30 00:01:36,668 --> 00:01:38,868 Speaker 5: lot of love for the Lions fans, a lot of 31 00:01:38,908 --> 00:01:39,828 Speaker 5: love for the Lions fans. 32 00:01:39,868 --> 00:01:40,668 Speaker 4: I think they know that. 33 00:01:40,908 --> 00:01:42,828 Speaker 5: I wish I could say the Lions fans that I 34 00:01:42,868 --> 00:01:44,148 Speaker 5: have nothing but love for you. 35 00:01:44,348 --> 00:01:47,108 Speaker 4: It's not true. I also have kind of an announcement. 36 00:01:47,468 --> 00:01:49,788 Speaker 5: I have a little bit of a warning, and it's 37 00:01:49,828 --> 00:01:53,428 Speaker 5: for the Lions fans, and it's for the Vikings fans. 38 00:01:53,508 --> 00:01:57,068 Speaker 4: And yes, it's for the Packers fans. Okay, is this 39 00:01:57,108 --> 00:01:58,228 Speaker 4: thing on? Can you hear me? 40 00:01:58,548 --> 00:02:01,748 Speaker 5: It's all the Chicago Bears are no longer yours to 41 00:02:01,868 --> 00:02:02,468 Speaker 5: kick around. 42 00:02:02,868 --> 00:02:05,988 Speaker 4: Do you understand? At change? It's over now. 43 00:02:05,988 --> 00:02:08,508 Speaker 5: And frankly, Lions fans, you weren't kicking him around anyways. 44 00:02:08,868 --> 00:02:11,948 Speaker 5: This is big boys stuff now, this is varsity stuff. 45 00:02:11,988 --> 00:02:12,228 Speaker 4: Now. 46 00:02:12,468 --> 00:02:14,628 Speaker 5: When the schedule comes out and you see the Little 47 00:02:14,628 --> 00:02:16,508 Speaker 5: Bears logo in a given week, that's gonna be a 48 00:02:16,508 --> 00:02:19,188 Speaker 5: bad thing. When you watch Red Zone, they're gonna go 49 00:02:19,188 --> 00:02:21,268 Speaker 5: to the Bears and that's gonna be a bad thing. 50 00:02:21,548 --> 00:02:23,508 Speaker 5: You can go ahead and make your jokes and your 51 00:02:23,508 --> 00:02:26,428 Speaker 5: conditioned to joke about the Bears and to mock the Bears. 52 00:02:26,428 --> 00:02:28,508 Speaker 4: I understand that I saw last night. 53 00:02:28,908 --> 00:02:32,588 Speaker 5: Ross Tucker tweets out, I haven't seen Bears fans it's 54 00:02:32,628 --> 00:02:35,828 Speaker 5: excited since they drafted Justin Fields three years ago. Ross 55 00:02:35,868 --> 00:02:37,348 Speaker 5: is one of the biggest jerks in the industry. I 56 00:02:37,388 --> 00:02:40,468 Speaker 5: would expect that from him. Go ahead, it's fine, get 57 00:02:40,508 --> 00:02:43,468 Speaker 5: it all out now, because last night was the most 58 00:02:43,508 --> 00:02:46,148 Speaker 5: exciting night for Chicago Bears, I think in five years, 59 00:02:46,308 --> 00:02:49,188 Speaker 5: and that includes games. And you might say, oh, that's 60 00:02:49,228 --> 00:02:52,508 Speaker 5: so sad. That's really said. It is sad. It's been tough, slutting. 61 00:02:52,628 --> 00:02:54,628 Speaker 5: I'm not denied. It's been a tough, tough time. And 62 00:02:54,708 --> 00:02:56,628 Speaker 5: I hear this. You know, it's not how many times 63 00:02:56,668 --> 00:02:58,628 Speaker 5: you get knocked down, how many times you get back up? Now, 64 00:02:58,668 --> 00:02:59,988 Speaker 5: what's how many times you get knocked down? And I 65 00:02:59,988 --> 00:03:02,468 Speaker 5: don't know what kind of Freddie Roach was talking about there. 66 00:03:02,508 --> 00:03:05,068 Speaker 5: It is how many times you get and they're not 67 00:03:05,068 --> 00:03:08,348 Speaker 5: getting knocked down anymore. Make your jokes because you can't 68 00:03:08,348 --> 00:03:11,188 Speaker 5: attack the talents. Caylen Williams is going to start his 69 00:03:11,228 --> 00:03:13,588 Speaker 5: first games at Chicago Bear, and he's going to look 70 00:03:13,628 --> 00:03:15,868 Speaker 5: around in the huddle and he's going to see a 71 00:03:15,988 --> 00:03:21,068 Speaker 5: Donsay and DJ and Keenan and Jerald and Comets and 72 00:03:21,188 --> 00:03:22,148 Speaker 5: Swift and Herbert. 73 00:03:22,308 --> 00:03:23,028 Speaker 4: You know what, He's not. 74 00:03:22,948 --> 00:03:24,548 Speaker 5: Going to see all those guys because they can't all 75 00:03:24,548 --> 00:03:27,108 Speaker 5: fit the damn huddle. The Bears have so many players 76 00:03:27,228 --> 00:03:29,028 Speaker 5: they need two Ubers to get around. 77 00:03:29,268 --> 00:03:31,828 Speaker 4: They can't even fit into the Uber Excel. They need 78 00:03:31,868 --> 00:03:33,028 Speaker 4: a second one. 79 00:03:33,588 --> 00:03:36,788 Speaker 5: So go ahead and make all of your nail ballist jokes. 80 00:03:37,028 --> 00:03:40,708 Speaker 4: Do it. I know it's done out of insecurity. 81 00:03:40,228 --> 00:03:42,588 Speaker 5: And for the first time in years, I can say 82 00:03:42,628 --> 00:03:45,468 Speaker 5: as a Bear's enthusiast, it's done out of jealousy. 83 00:03:46,068 --> 00:03:49,748 Speaker 4: They're the cool team, They're the loaded team. Soak it in. 84 00:03:49,868 --> 00:03:52,828 Speaker 5: It's real. You're not dreaming. It happened and it's going 85 00:03:52,908 --> 00:03:54,868 Speaker 5: to keep happening. And Peter, I'm gonna. 86 00:03:54,708 --> 00:03:55,268 Speaker 4: Finish with this. 87 00:03:55,628 --> 00:03:58,748 Speaker 6: You remember the Kalisi, right of course, of course, and 88 00:03:58,828 --> 00:04:02,468 Speaker 6: the Kalisi is giving a speech to Tyrian and Calisi, 89 00:04:02,588 --> 00:04:05,868 Speaker 6: says Lanister Stark, Tigerian. 90 00:04:05,988 --> 00:04:08,308 Speaker 5: They're all just spokes on a wheel and it spins 91 00:04:08,388 --> 00:04:10,988 Speaker 5: round and round. And Tyrian's not impressed, and he says, oh, 92 00:04:11,028 --> 00:04:12,788 Speaker 5: you're gonna stop the wheel. I understand a lot of 93 00:04:12,788 --> 00:04:15,588 Speaker 5: people have tried to do that. Calisi says, no, I'm 94 00:04:15,588 --> 00:04:18,428 Speaker 5: not gonna stop the wheel. I'm gonna break the wheel. 95 00:04:18,708 --> 00:04:23,748 Speaker 5: And I would say to Bears, Fance Fields, Trubisky, Cutler. 96 00:04:23,508 --> 00:04:26,188 Speaker 7: They're all the towns on a wheel, thecount. It goes 97 00:04:26,228 --> 00:04:29,588 Speaker 7: around and around and around. Caleb Williams is not going 98 00:04:29,668 --> 00:04:32,268 Speaker 7: to stop the wheel. He's going to break the wheel. 99 00:04:32,548 --> 00:04:34,668 Speaker 7: He is the breaker of wheels, the. 100 00:04:34,588 --> 00:04:35,628 Speaker 4: Mover of change. 101 00:04:35,868 --> 00:04:38,948 Speaker 5: The Chicago Bears are no longer yours to laugh at, 102 00:04:39,068 --> 00:04:40,548 Speaker 5: meme about and kick around. 103 00:04:41,068 --> 00:04:44,708 Speaker 4: Soak it in, swallow it. It's happening. It's real. Take 104 00:04:44,748 --> 00:04:48,828 Speaker 4: that in. Come on now, come on now, and well 105 00:04:49,308 --> 00:04:51,308 Speaker 4: bleeping down. 106 00:04:51,308 --> 00:04:53,748 Speaker 8: Let's go bearing down. 107 00:04:57,988 --> 00:05:03,388 Speaker 4: Do you hear me? Bear down? They hear it? Do 108 00:05:03,508 --> 00:05:08,068 Speaker 4: you hear I said, come on, you hear it. 109 00:05:08,548 --> 00:05:11,468 Speaker 2: Listen up, they hear it. You hear it? 110 00:05:12,588 --> 00:05:12,868 Speaker 8: Kyle? 111 00:05:12,908 --> 00:05:16,428 Speaker 2: Well please, Kyle just talked about a moribunfranchise that hasn't 112 00:05:16,468 --> 00:05:18,748 Speaker 2: had any good moments in about twenty years, and he's 113 00:05:18,828 --> 00:05:21,068 Speaker 2: enjoying himself and he's got Let me talk about the 114 00:05:21,108 --> 00:05:23,668 Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs here instead. 115 00:05:24,108 --> 00:05:25,868 Speaker 8: Let me talk about this. Let me talk about the 116 00:05:25,948 --> 00:05:27,188 Speaker 8: Chiefs because. 117 00:05:26,868 --> 00:05:30,828 Speaker 9: Well, because we're there are thirty one, there are thirty 118 00:05:30,828 --> 00:05:32,908 Speaker 9: one other fan bases who are sitting on the edge 119 00:05:32,948 --> 00:05:35,228 Speaker 9: of their seats last night and they're believing, like Kyle, 120 00:05:35,308 --> 00:05:37,748 Speaker 9: that there's suddenly Super Bowl contenders. There is a team 121 00:05:37,788 --> 00:05:40,668 Speaker 9: in Kansas City that everyone should be trying to stop 122 00:05:40,708 --> 00:05:44,708 Speaker 9: from doing it yet again. And sure enough, I'm watching 123 00:05:44,788 --> 00:05:47,708 Speaker 9: last night as the draft board is falling and things 124 00:05:47,748 --> 00:05:50,548 Speaker 9: are happening, and we're going and there's trades and there's 125 00:05:50,548 --> 00:05:52,508 Speaker 9: no trades in the one. How is the rest of 126 00:05:52,508 --> 00:05:55,228 Speaker 9: the league gonna let the Kansas City Chiefs draft Xavier 127 00:05:55,268 --> 00:05:56,428 Speaker 9: are Worthy at twenty eight? 128 00:05:56,468 --> 00:05:56,868 Speaker 4: Overall? 129 00:05:57,388 --> 00:06:00,508 Speaker 8: Please we are okay, there's only thirty two teams. 130 00:06:00,548 --> 00:06:02,948 Speaker 2: At some point, thirty one of you have to call 131 00:06:03,028 --> 00:06:06,268 Speaker 2: each other and say, let's not give the Chiefs the 132 00:06:06,348 --> 00:06:07,348 Speaker 2: fastest player. 133 00:06:07,068 --> 00:06:08,428 Speaker 8: To ever show up at the combine. 134 00:06:08,468 --> 00:06:10,748 Speaker 4: Should they should collude in some way and. 135 00:06:10,668 --> 00:06:12,268 Speaker 2: Say, okay, one of us has to bipe the bullet 136 00:06:12,308 --> 00:06:14,188 Speaker 2: one of us good in front of the Chiefs and 137 00:06:14,268 --> 00:06:16,948 Speaker 2: make sure Xavier Worthy doesn't go to the Kansas City Chiefs. 138 00:06:16,988 --> 00:06:20,228 Speaker 2: What's that, Jesse. He can't keep getting away with this. 139 00:06:20,668 --> 00:06:23,228 Speaker 10: It's insane to me that. 140 00:06:23,148 --> 00:06:26,228 Speaker 9: The Kansas City Chiefs quietly. 141 00:06:25,788 --> 00:06:27,548 Speaker 2: Move up four picks and get a guy who ran 142 00:06:27,588 --> 00:06:31,828 Speaker 2: a four two three forty a couple months called it. 143 00:06:31,868 --> 00:06:33,428 Speaker 4: We all saw. And here's the thing with Worthy. 144 00:06:33,468 --> 00:06:35,588 Speaker 2: I know he's only one hundred and seventy pounds and 145 00:06:35,668 --> 00:06:38,388 Speaker 2: people at Homers Ah, he's just a lightweight wide receiver. 146 00:06:38,828 --> 00:06:41,668 Speaker 2: Played three years in college, is five foot eleven. He's 147 00:06:41,668 --> 00:06:46,388 Speaker 2: listed at six foot one at the Texas Media guy. 148 00:06:45,428 --> 00:06:46,948 Speaker 4: List to Peter, we're making. 149 00:06:46,748 --> 00:06:49,548 Speaker 9: Televigence, let's go, And I think this is one of 150 00:06:49,548 --> 00:06:50,188 Speaker 9: those deals. 151 00:06:49,948 --> 00:06:51,588 Speaker 4: Where like he's a true receiver. 152 00:06:51,748 --> 00:06:53,428 Speaker 8: He runs routes, he does it all, he does the 153 00:06:53,508 --> 00:06:55,588 Speaker 8: route tree. He interviewed with teams, he was great. 154 00:06:56,068 --> 00:06:59,028 Speaker 2: I had a Xavier Worthy going seventeen in my mock draft. 155 00:06:59,028 --> 00:07:01,228 Speaker 2: All people are like, he might be gone top twelve, 156 00:07:01,268 --> 00:07:03,308 Speaker 2: top thirteen, Like that's how high the league is on 157 00:07:03,388 --> 00:07:04,268 Speaker 2: him right now? 158 00:07:04,388 --> 00:07:06,228 Speaker 8: When he ate to the Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs, 159 00:07:06,308 --> 00:07:08,028 Speaker 8: they won the Super Bowl. Last year, they won the 160 00:07:08,028 --> 00:07:08,548 Speaker 8: Super Bowl. 161 00:07:08,548 --> 00:07:10,828 Speaker 2: This year they won the NFL Draft Night, Day one, 162 00:07:10,988 --> 00:07:13,068 Speaker 2: they get exavierer Worthy. They add him to a team, 163 00:07:13,108 --> 00:07:14,988 Speaker 2: and guess what, Travis Kelsey has added five years to 164 00:07:15,028 --> 00:07:15,508 Speaker 2: his career. 165 00:07:15,668 --> 00:07:18,068 Speaker 10: You can dance and sing. They'd be a tortured poet 166 00:07:18,108 --> 00:07:19,988 Speaker 10: with your girlfriend. You can do it all because you 167 00:07:20,028 --> 00:07:22,228 Speaker 10: know what they're gonna be flying trying to chase down 168 00:07:22,308 --> 00:07:24,948 Speaker 10: Marquise Brown and Xavi. You're worthy, Travis Kesey's gonna have 169 00:07:24,948 --> 00:07:25,748 Speaker 10: single covered underneath. 170 00:07:25,788 --> 00:07:27,428 Speaker 5: The Chiefs get to pick from some of the NFC, 171 00:07:27,588 --> 00:07:29,148 Speaker 5: like the Buffalo. 172 00:07:28,708 --> 00:07:32,868 Speaker 4: Bows tormenting the team that traded them in the Homespin. 173 00:07:34,028 --> 00:07:35,308 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 174 00:07:35,188 --> 00:07:38,348 Speaker 8: Chiefs won the draft. Bears, enjoy your big weekend in April. 175 00:07:38,428 --> 00:07:39,628 Speaker 8: All right, Jason, what do you got? 176 00:07:40,028 --> 00:07:42,828 Speaker 11: I'm so disappointed that my kids already left for school 177 00:07:42,828 --> 00:07:45,508 Speaker 11: because Kyle was getting the crowd and everybody involved. I 178 00:07:45,588 --> 00:07:47,668 Speaker 11: was gonna have them just filing, and I was gonna 179 00:07:47,668 --> 00:07:49,908 Speaker 11: have them do a skull clap behind me as. 180 00:07:49,788 --> 00:07:53,468 Speaker 12: I about the New Jersey, no doubt about it. 181 00:07:53,988 --> 00:07:56,348 Speaker 11: This on TV, like, don't listen to that crazy man. 182 00:07:56,548 --> 00:07:57,588 Speaker 8: Get them off the screen. 183 00:07:57,708 --> 00:08:00,268 Speaker 11: But I'm rolling with the Minnesota Vikings as winning the 184 00:08:00,388 --> 00:08:01,748 Speaker 11: night we talked about. 185 00:08:01,548 --> 00:08:02,908 Speaker 8: Them getting JJ McCarthy. 186 00:08:02,908 --> 00:08:05,308 Speaker 11: But we thought when they made trade with the Houston 187 00:08:05,348 --> 00:08:08,068 Speaker 11: Texas weeks ago, that they were doing that to possibly 188 00:08:08,108 --> 00:08:10,108 Speaker 11: have to move up into the top five to get 189 00:08:10,148 --> 00:08:11,828 Speaker 11: the quarterback that they wanted. 190 00:08:11,948 --> 00:08:12,828 Speaker 8: They didn't have to do that. 191 00:08:12,908 --> 00:08:15,108 Speaker 11: They only had to bump up one spot from eleven 192 00:08:15,148 --> 00:08:18,228 Speaker 11: to ten to land a quarterback that they believe is 193 00:08:18,268 --> 00:08:20,468 Speaker 11: a guy that's going to lead them into the future. 194 00:08:20,668 --> 00:08:23,068 Speaker 11: All right, they had picked twenty three, they weren't done yet. 195 00:08:23,068 --> 00:08:25,868 Speaker 11: They move up six spots and go and get Dallas Turner, 196 00:08:26,108 --> 00:08:28,068 Speaker 11: the defensive guy that a lot of people had as 197 00:08:28,108 --> 00:08:31,068 Speaker 11: their first guy coming off the board on that side 198 00:08:31,108 --> 00:08:33,428 Speaker 11: of the ball. And when Dallas Turner gets drafted, they 199 00:08:33,428 --> 00:08:35,708 Speaker 11: show him walking up to that podium. To Meek Goodel, 200 00:08:35,948 --> 00:08:38,428 Speaker 11: he looked like a crazy man. He looked pissed off 201 00:08:38,428 --> 00:08:40,428 Speaker 11: that he was waiting in the green room for so long. 202 00:08:40,628 --> 00:08:42,548 Speaker 11: It was a walk where he was talking to himself. 203 00:08:42,628 --> 00:08:44,388 Speaker 11: He looked like he was getting ready to check in 204 00:08:44,468 --> 00:08:46,788 Speaker 11: the game and cause having So, I look at this 205 00:08:46,868 --> 00:08:49,628 Speaker 11: from their standpoint, and you talk about adding Brian Flores 206 00:08:49,668 --> 00:08:51,708 Speaker 11: last year to the defense. Now you go out and 207 00:08:51,748 --> 00:08:53,948 Speaker 11: you get a guy like Dallas Turner, but also Jonathan 208 00:08:53,988 --> 00:08:56,908 Speaker 11: Green or Andrew Van van Ginkel, those guys that they 209 00:08:56,988 --> 00:08:58,868 Speaker 11: added to the defensive side of the ball, and now 210 00:08:58,948 --> 00:09:01,908 Speaker 11: Kevin O'Connell gets a quarterback that he believes can get 211 00:09:01,948 --> 00:09:04,228 Speaker 11: him over the top. The one thing that O'Connell said 212 00:09:04,268 --> 00:09:07,028 Speaker 11: up JJ McCarthy after draft and was when you talk 213 00:09:07,108 --> 00:09:09,548 Speaker 11: to his teammates and everybody there at Michigan, the one 214 00:09:09,548 --> 00:09:12,068 Speaker 11: thing that they all said, he came through for that 215 00:09:12,188 --> 00:09:15,468 Speaker 11: team whenever they needed him most. And Minnesota feels like 216 00:09:15,508 --> 00:09:18,108 Speaker 11: that's what they were missing at their quarterback position with 217 00:09:18,268 --> 00:09:20,788 Speaker 11: Kirk Cousins. Whether it all works out or not, we'll 218 00:09:20,828 --> 00:09:22,148 Speaker 11: see that in the coming future. 219 00:09:22,388 --> 00:09:24,468 Speaker 8: Jane won to Night who you rolling with. 220 00:09:24,788 --> 00:09:26,988 Speaker 3: Look, I think it's hard to make a case for 221 00:09:27,108 --> 00:09:31,068 Speaker 3: any one other than the Bears. I think Kyle eloquently 222 00:09:31,108 --> 00:09:33,108 Speaker 3: laid it all out. They've come in with a stacked 223 00:09:33,188 --> 00:09:35,748 Speaker 3: covered a lot of weapons. I want to put Peter 224 00:09:35,828 --> 00:09:37,388 Speaker 3: and Kyle on the spot just a little bit, and 225 00:09:37,428 --> 00:09:39,628 Speaker 3: if we have time, Jason, I'll throw you in. Aside 226 00:09:39,628 --> 00:09:43,068 Speaker 3: from Atlanta, was there any pick that you kind of 227 00:09:43,108 --> 00:09:44,268 Speaker 3: went meh? 228 00:09:44,348 --> 00:09:46,908 Speaker 4: In the first round? Yeah? 229 00:09:46,948 --> 00:09:48,468 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I can speak for the fans. 230 00:09:48,748 --> 00:09:50,708 Speaker 5: I think the Giants draft them the league neighbors and 231 00:09:50,708 --> 00:09:53,148 Speaker 5: when we all like neighbors, but everyone's like, wait a second, 232 00:09:53,228 --> 00:09:54,348 Speaker 5: they're going to trade. 233 00:09:54,068 --> 00:09:55,788 Speaker 2: This or they're going to draft the quarterback. 234 00:09:56,108 --> 00:09:58,028 Speaker 5: And I think there was I think there was a 235 00:09:58,148 --> 00:10:01,908 Speaker 5: palpable amongst the Giants fan base and listen, that's a 236 00:10:01,908 --> 00:10:04,148 Speaker 5: reflection of Daniel Jones, and that's a reflection of all 237 00:10:04,148 --> 00:10:06,348 Speaker 5: of us buying into the draft type for the last 238 00:10:06,348 --> 00:10:07,988 Speaker 5: month that they're moving on and moving on. They ain't 239 00:10:07,988 --> 00:10:09,908 Speaker 5: moving on, and Mick Name's gonna be catching past from 240 00:10:09,948 --> 00:10:10,428 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones. 241 00:10:10,428 --> 00:10:11,788 Speaker 2: I think that was a little bit joke about me, 242 00:10:12,108 --> 00:10:14,748 Speaker 2: like it's we don't know, so this is too soon. 243 00:10:14,788 --> 00:10:17,628 Speaker 2: But like the Cowboys sitting there at twenty four, we're 244 00:10:17,628 --> 00:10:19,188 Speaker 2: going all in, push the chips and they end up 245 00:10:19,188 --> 00:10:21,748 Speaker 2: trading back and taking a Tyler Guyton who might be 246 00:10:21,748 --> 00:10:22,188 Speaker 2: a project. 247 00:10:22,228 --> 00:10:22,588 Speaker 8: We don't know. 248 00:10:22,588 --> 00:10:24,628 Speaker 2: Maybe he start trying away, but the expectation is it 249 00:10:24,708 --> 00:10:26,228 Speaker 2: might take him a while to get there. To me, 250 00:10:26,268 --> 00:10:27,948 Speaker 2: if you're a Dallas fan this morning, you're like, that's 251 00:10:27,988 --> 00:10:30,348 Speaker 2: a smart pick long term. But if we're all in 252 00:10:30,428 --> 00:10:31,788 Speaker 2: and we're looking for a super Bowl, I don't know. 253 00:10:31,788 --> 00:10:33,028 Speaker 2: If Geyiton gets us over there. 254 00:10:32,988 --> 00:10:34,708 Speaker 5: We have to talk about another one too, like the 255 00:10:34,748 --> 00:10:36,308 Speaker 5: both Little player last night. 256 00:10:36,388 --> 00:10:38,188 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they traded their pick to. 257 00:10:38,188 --> 00:10:40,388 Speaker 8: The Chiefs to get the fastest wide receiver in history. 258 00:10:40,508 --> 00:10:42,228 Speaker 8: Jason talk about it like the digs. 259 00:10:42,268 --> 00:10:43,268 Speaker 4: Trade happens and you're. 260 00:10:43,108 --> 00:10:44,668 Speaker 5: Like, well, being will take care of it, and listen, 261 00:10:44,708 --> 00:10:45,628 Speaker 5: you trust your GM. 262 00:10:45,828 --> 00:10:46,508 Speaker 4: He has a plan. 263 00:10:46,588 --> 00:10:48,548 Speaker 5: He moved back. I'm sure he has the plan. But 264 00:10:48,628 --> 00:10:50,228 Speaker 5: after night one, they're like, what are we doing? 265 00:10:50,228 --> 00:10:51,548 Speaker 4: What do we do? I think there's a little fear 266 00:10:51,588 --> 00:10:52,508 Speaker 4: this morning in Buffalo. 267 00:10:52,628 --> 00:10:54,708 Speaker 11: Definitely, Bill's mafia has to be wondering. There was a 268 00:10:54,748 --> 00:10:57,148 Speaker 11: meme going around the internet where you have your dinner 269 00:10:57,228 --> 00:10:58,588 Speaker 11: right there in front of you and they lift the 270 00:10:58,628 --> 00:11:01,108 Speaker 11: top off and there's absolutely nothing on the plate. And 271 00:11:01,148 --> 00:11:03,388 Speaker 11: that's how fans had to feel because you're expecting him 272 00:11:03,428 --> 00:11:05,708 Speaker 11: that leaves go out and get a wide receiver in 273 00:11:05,788 --> 00:11:08,428 Speaker 11: a draft that is so deep, and we see guys 274 00:11:08,468 --> 00:11:10,308 Speaker 11: go at the end of the first round. Ricky Pier 275 00:11:10,428 --> 00:11:13,388 Speaker 11: saw the get goals as well, and the Buffalo trades 276 00:11:13,428 --> 00:11:16,068 Speaker 11: out and they don't bring anybody into that franchise. So 277 00:11:16,108 --> 00:11:18,988 Speaker 11: if you're talking about that type of performance, I don't 278 00:11:18,988 --> 00:11:19,588 Speaker 11: think I can. 279 00:11:19,468 --> 00:11:20,708 Speaker 2: Look past the Buffalo Bills. 280 00:11:21,068 --> 00:11:22,348 Speaker 8: This is really in the weeds. 281 00:11:22,388 --> 00:11:23,948 Speaker 2: But if you're one of the fans at the end 282 00:11:23,948 --> 00:11:26,748 Speaker 2: of the first round, that was fascinating. So the Kansas 283 00:11:26,788 --> 00:11:29,388 Speaker 2: City Chiefs traded the pick. They then trade to pick again, 284 00:11:29,428 --> 00:11:30,948 Speaker 2: and then the Bill trade to pick, So the thirty 285 00:11:30,988 --> 00:11:33,348 Speaker 2: second pick is sitting there. I could tell you they 286 00:11:33,388 --> 00:11:35,908 Speaker 2: were about five teams trying to move up to thirty two. 287 00:11:35,988 --> 00:11:38,068 Speaker 2: So why would the last pick of the first round matter? 288 00:11:38,308 --> 00:11:40,268 Speaker 2: If you draft one of these wide receivers with the 289 00:11:40,348 --> 00:11:42,268 Speaker 2: last pick of the first round, or any pick in 290 00:11:42,308 --> 00:11:44,108 Speaker 2: the first round, you get them for five years. You 291 00:11:44,148 --> 00:11:45,868 Speaker 2: get the four years and the fifth year option. If 292 00:11:45,868 --> 00:11:48,108 Speaker 2: you take them one day later, you only get them 293 00:11:48,148 --> 00:11:51,508 Speaker 2: for four years. So Carolina was calling, but so were 294 00:11:51,548 --> 00:11:53,188 Speaker 2: other teams to get up to thirty two. 295 00:11:53,308 --> 00:11:54,948 Speaker 8: And the player is Xavier Legett. 296 00:11:54,988 --> 00:11:57,108 Speaker 2: But you saw David Tepper, the owner of the Panthers, 297 00:11:57,108 --> 00:11:58,788 Speaker 2: doing like a clap and they were so excited. 298 00:11:58,988 --> 00:12:00,028 Speaker 4: They look like they got him. 299 00:11:59,908 --> 00:12:01,868 Speaker 2: On a bargain price because we got an extra year 300 00:12:01,908 --> 00:12:03,588 Speaker 2: on them. But there were other teams calling up to 301 00:12:03,708 --> 00:12:05,788 Speaker 2: It's kind of neat to watch all those wide receivers 302 00:12:05,828 --> 00:12:07,508 Speaker 2: at the end. But I don't know anybody, and Tom 303 00:12:07,548 --> 00:12:09,588 Speaker 2: Pellisera and I were talking about I don't know anybody 304 00:12:09,668 --> 00:12:10,468 Speaker 2: that had Ricky. 305 00:12:10,268 --> 00:12:13,548 Speaker 8: Pearsall going before A. D. Mitchell and going before Lad mcconki. 306 00:12:13,828 --> 00:12:15,708 Speaker 2: So maybe the biggest shaker of the night was actually 307 00:12:15,748 --> 00:12:19,268 Speaker 2: San Francisco taking Ricky Pearsall in in the first round. 308 00:12:19,268 --> 00:12:20,628 Speaker 2: But you know what that was the guy that had 309 00:12:20,668 --> 00:12:23,148 Speaker 2: their eyes on loves contact and it's gonna love having 310 00:12:23,148 --> 00:12:23,788 Speaker 2: a big moment with that. 311 00:12:23,868 --> 00:12:25,388 Speaker 8: You can debo out there in San Francisco. 312 00:12:25,468 --> 00:12:27,428 Speaker 4: Where are we going, guys, Let's keep this train roll on. 313 00:12:27,508 --> 00:12:29,988 Speaker 3: Now, the speculation they might move on I was gonna say, 314 00:12:30,028 --> 00:12:32,068 Speaker 3: and now the speculation they might move on from Deebo 315 00:12:32,148 --> 00:12:36,148 Speaker 3: Samuel is just fascinating right on. All right, Well, if 316 00:12:36,148 --> 00:12:39,468 Speaker 3: you love the fans, the hogs that fit, you're in luck. 317 00:12:39,588 --> 00:12:42,268 Speaker 3: The NFL Draft presented by bud Light has six more 318 00:12:42,308 --> 00:12:45,228 Speaker 3: rounds to go, and you can catch NFL Networks coverage 319 00:12:45,268 --> 00:12:48,868 Speaker 3: presented by Verizon today at seven pm Eastern streaming on 320 00:12:49,068 --> 00:12:51,028 Speaker 3: NFL Plus and on ESPN. 321 00:12:51,548 --> 00:12:52,588 Speaker 4: All right, well, it took. 322 00:12:52,428 --> 00:12:54,308 Speaker 3: Twenty two picks for a quarterback to. 323 00:12:54,348 --> 00:12:55,188 Speaker 2: Go off the board. 324 00:12:55,628 --> 00:12:58,948 Speaker 3: Jason wants to see more defensive players in this second round, 325 00:12:59,268 --> 00:13:02,828 Speaker 3: but finally Philly made the move drafting Toledo's quinnyon Mitchell. 326 00:13:03,108 --> 00:13:05,388 Speaker 3: Coming up, we talked to his coach and how Philly's 327 00:13:05,428 --> 00:13:08,188 Speaker 3: newest player used social media to get recruited. 328 00:13:21,908 --> 00:13:23,908 Speaker 2: One of the coolest moments of the draft last night, 329 00:13:23,948 --> 00:13:27,708 Speaker 2: A dream realized and now his college football head coach 330 00:13:27,828 --> 00:13:30,908 Speaker 2: is here. Jason Kandell, the head coach of the Toledo Rockets, 331 00:13:30,948 --> 00:13:33,268 Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football. Thanks for having me up. 332 00:13:33,668 --> 00:13:33,868 Speaker 8: Yeah. 333 00:13:33,948 --> 00:13:35,948 Speaker 2: Look, yesterday, that was a really cool moment for quinnyon 334 00:13:36,348 --> 00:13:38,308 Speaker 2: first cornerback off the board. 335 00:13:38,628 --> 00:13:39,988 Speaker 8: He played four years. 336 00:13:39,748 --> 00:13:42,228 Speaker 2: At Toledo, one of the only small school guys taken 337 00:13:42,308 --> 00:13:44,988 Speaker 2: last night. What was it like when he got selected? 338 00:13:45,348 --> 00:13:46,628 Speaker 8: Man, about every emotion. 339 00:13:46,708 --> 00:13:49,228 Speaker 13: You can imagine a lot of relief problem moment for 340 00:13:49,308 --> 00:13:51,068 Speaker 13: him and his family. I think the thing that really 341 00:13:51,068 --> 00:13:53,748 Speaker 13: getches to see his grandmother and his mother and those 342 00:13:53,748 --> 00:13:56,108 Speaker 13: three sisters have that group hug right there in the middle. 343 00:13:56,228 --> 00:13:58,668 Speaker 8: That's just something you can't you can't put words around that. 344 00:13:58,908 --> 00:14:01,068 Speaker 2: Eagles fans are watching, They're saying, well, who are we getting? 345 00:14:01,068 --> 00:14:01,668 Speaker 2: Who's this guy? 346 00:14:01,668 --> 00:14:02,628 Speaker 8: What's his personality? 347 00:14:03,028 --> 00:14:06,468 Speaker 2: If you were to explain Quinnon the player, yes, but 348 00:14:06,508 --> 00:14:09,668 Speaker 2: the person who's coming to Philadelphia as their newest. 349 00:14:09,388 --> 00:14:10,148 Speaker 8: First rail pick. 350 00:14:10,668 --> 00:14:12,348 Speaker 13: Well, I mean, at first and foremost, I've said this 351 00:14:12,388 --> 00:14:14,548 Speaker 13: from day one. Five star human being, a guy that 352 00:14:14,708 --> 00:14:17,148 Speaker 13: just goes to work every day and it does the 353 00:14:17,188 --> 00:14:20,388 Speaker 13: right thing and enjoy the coach and throw back. You know, 354 00:14:20,428 --> 00:14:22,428 Speaker 13: an old soul to a certain extent, the guy that 355 00:14:22,508 --> 00:14:25,308 Speaker 13: just will will work and do what's required and make 356 00:14:25,348 --> 00:14:27,588 Speaker 13: the other guys around him better because he just he 357 00:14:27,708 --> 00:14:28,788 Speaker 13: just goes after it. 358 00:14:28,948 --> 00:14:32,148 Speaker 2: Okay, so the story goes, and Nick Saban talked about this. 359 00:14:32,188 --> 00:14:35,668 Speaker 2: There are a bunch of schools begging Quinnon to transfer 360 00:14:35,748 --> 00:14:38,068 Speaker 2: and to enter the transfer coorder, which about a thousand kids, 361 00:14:38,508 --> 00:14:40,428 Speaker 2: and typically you get someone from the MAC and say, okay, 362 00:14:40,428 --> 00:14:42,748 Speaker 2: for this final year, I'll go to the SEC. Saban 363 00:14:42,788 --> 00:14:47,348 Speaker 2: talked about yesterday that Alabama had over He stays at Toledo, 364 00:14:47,428 --> 00:14:49,028 Speaker 2: he stays in the MAC. 365 00:14:49,668 --> 00:14:51,668 Speaker 8: What's that mean to you as. 366 00:14:51,428 --> 00:14:52,068 Speaker 2: His head coach? 367 00:14:52,108 --> 00:14:54,188 Speaker 8: And also what did that do for the rest of 368 00:14:54,228 --> 00:14:54,548 Speaker 8: the team. 369 00:14:54,548 --> 00:14:56,708 Speaker 2: As far as hey, our best player is choosing to 370 00:14:56,708 --> 00:14:57,828 Speaker 2: stay here, let's go. 371 00:14:58,308 --> 00:14:59,748 Speaker 13: I think it's a testament to the culture in our 372 00:14:59,788 --> 00:15:02,268 Speaker 13: locker room, testament to who he is as a human being. 373 00:15:02,388 --> 00:15:05,948 Speaker 13: You know, loyalty is a qualit that you know is 374 00:15:05,988 --> 00:15:10,068 Speaker 13: sometimes very underrepresented in today's world. And for him to 375 00:15:10,068 --> 00:15:11,388 Speaker 13: do that and for it all to work out, and 376 00:15:11,828 --> 00:15:14,348 Speaker 13: then the culminating moment to be last night, very special 377 00:15:14,348 --> 00:15:15,988 Speaker 13: for our program, very special for that young man. 378 00:15:16,188 --> 00:15:18,028 Speaker 2: Now he goes to the Eagles. You and I were 379 00:15:18,028 --> 00:15:19,628 Speaker 2: talking off camera. I said, hey, where did you go 380 00:15:19,668 --> 00:15:20,028 Speaker 2: to school? 381 00:15:20,108 --> 00:15:22,268 Speaker 8: You mentioned Mount Union? It was like Mount Union. 382 00:15:22,908 --> 00:15:25,668 Speaker 2: What is your connection to the Philadelphia Eagles? What is 383 00:15:25,708 --> 00:15:26,948 Speaker 2: your connection to the Eagles. 384 00:15:27,228 --> 00:15:30,108 Speaker 13: Well, the head coach is my college roommate mixed to 385 00:15:30,148 --> 00:15:31,308 Speaker 13: Reality's college roommate. 386 00:15:31,388 --> 00:15:32,028 Speaker 2: And we were there. 387 00:15:32,188 --> 00:15:34,828 Speaker 13: We were the two a couple of those championship teams. 388 00:15:34,828 --> 00:15:36,988 Speaker 13: We were the two receivers that played together. And so 389 00:15:37,388 --> 00:15:39,708 Speaker 13: I've known that guy for a long time. Great football family. 390 00:15:39,788 --> 00:15:41,948 Speaker 13: And you know what's really cool about the whole situation 391 00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:44,668 Speaker 13: is is that this personality that this draft pick matches 392 00:15:44,748 --> 00:15:47,628 Speaker 13: of that the head coach and uh, not too often 393 00:15:47,668 --> 00:15:48,668 Speaker 13: do you get that opportunity. 394 00:15:48,788 --> 00:15:50,948 Speaker 2: Well and such insight. Did Nick call you and say, hey, 395 00:15:50,988 --> 00:15:52,828 Speaker 2: this guy might be one of our players. 396 00:15:54,068 --> 00:15:56,908 Speaker 13: Well, they all call, but yeah, you know that conversation 397 00:15:56,948 --> 00:15:58,628 Speaker 13: is a little bit different because you can you know, 398 00:15:58,748 --> 00:16:00,828 Speaker 13: you you know, he knows you know how to push 399 00:16:00,868 --> 00:16:02,468 Speaker 13: my buttons on how to push it so he can 400 00:16:02,468 --> 00:16:05,548 Speaker 13: get the inside information. But I just think this and 401 00:16:05,588 --> 00:16:07,788 Speaker 13: all and all things in a hundred different ways, this 402 00:16:07,828 --> 00:16:08,388 Speaker 13: is a great. 403 00:16:08,188 --> 00:16:10,428 Speaker 2: Fit all things Quinn and Mitchell has said, give us 404 00:16:10,468 --> 00:16:14,828 Speaker 2: a good nick. Sirianni college roommates. What's yeah, what was 405 00:16:14,868 --> 00:16:17,868 Speaker 2: the scouting report on Kyle? Get on in here, so 406 00:16:17,908 --> 00:16:21,148 Speaker 2: your knick Sirianni's. We see him wearing the deep Dallas 407 00:16:21,148 --> 00:16:25,068 Speaker 2: sweatshirt and doing the mean mug. We love Sirianni. 408 00:16:25,148 --> 00:16:25,308 Speaker 5: Yeah. 409 00:16:25,348 --> 00:16:27,868 Speaker 2: What was he like? Intrad throat, timid wallflower type. 410 00:16:27,868 --> 00:16:30,668 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a guy that you that's 411 00:16:30,668 --> 00:16:32,508 Speaker 13: a guy you want on your noon basketball team. You're 412 00:16:32,548 --> 00:16:35,188 Speaker 13: gonna he's gonna the days that maybe it's uh there's 413 00:16:35,188 --> 00:16:37,228 Speaker 13: not quite the energy that's needed. He's gonna bring that, 414 00:16:38,428 --> 00:16:40,828 Speaker 13: maybe get into scrummers or two and maybe let you 415 00:16:40,868 --> 00:16:43,868 Speaker 13: clean it up. Maybe I don't know, but uh no, 416 00:16:43,988 --> 00:16:47,268 Speaker 13: a great human being, a great roommate, you know, and 417 00:16:47,348 --> 00:16:48,788 Speaker 13: you know, a great player when he was playing. 418 00:16:48,788 --> 00:16:50,308 Speaker 8: To you know, it was kind of a weird. 419 00:16:50,068 --> 00:16:52,268 Speaker 13: Thing because I got done and got the opportunity to 420 00:16:52,308 --> 00:16:54,348 Speaker 13: be a student coach, and he had a year left 421 00:16:54,348 --> 00:16:57,308 Speaker 13: to be uh, you know, his fifth year because of 422 00:16:57,348 --> 00:16:59,148 Speaker 13: an injury, and actually got a chance to coach him too. 423 00:17:00,108 --> 00:17:03,508 Speaker 2: That's cool. So the connection is, Jason, you roommates with Sirianni. 424 00:17:03,548 --> 00:17:06,868 Speaker 2: They draft your best player this year in the first round. 425 00:17:07,268 --> 00:17:07,748 Speaker 8: Real quick. 426 00:17:07,748 --> 00:17:10,068 Speaker 2: For the viewers at home who watch the MAC and 427 00:17:10,108 --> 00:17:12,388 Speaker 2: they love their maction, what can we expect from your 428 00:17:12,428 --> 00:17:13,308 Speaker 2: program this season? 429 00:17:13,788 --> 00:17:16,268 Speaker 13: I think this is just a quick glimpse of what 430 00:17:16,308 --> 00:17:17,828 Speaker 13: it can be. And we got some great ones coming 431 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:20,388 Speaker 13: back next year. You know, a couple guys that you 432 00:17:20,388 --> 00:17:22,588 Speaker 13: know that I've got a lot of attention here in 433 00:17:22,628 --> 00:17:23,748 Speaker 13: the early scouting process. 434 00:17:23,788 --> 00:17:25,348 Speaker 8: Is what it looks like for next season, you know. 435 00:17:25,428 --> 00:17:26,308 Speaker 4: And we're really. 436 00:17:26,148 --> 00:17:29,148 Speaker 13: Excited about those guys and what it could be coming 437 00:17:29,188 --> 00:17:31,068 Speaker 13: off of an eleven win year, and I think we're 438 00:17:31,068 --> 00:17:32,428 Speaker 13: just scratching the surface of what we can be. 439 00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:34,188 Speaker 2: So I'm really excited about it. We hope to see 440 00:17:34,188 --> 00:17:36,428 Speaker 2: you back here next year with another first round prospect, 441 00:17:36,468 --> 00:17:38,068 Speaker 2: and we hope to see you guys in a big 442 00:17:38,108 --> 00:17:38,708 Speaker 2: time bowl game. 443 00:17:38,748 --> 00:17:40,348 Speaker 8: Thanks so much, coach. I appreciate you joining. 444 00:17:41,068 --> 00:17:43,548 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Good Morning Football and Peter Schger. This 445 00:17:43,588 --> 00:17:46,428 Speaker 2: is Tom Tellisiah, one of the best insiders in the game, and. 446 00:17:46,588 --> 00:17:48,348 Speaker 8: Look, there are some teams we haven't hit yet. 447 00:17:48,388 --> 00:17:50,108 Speaker 2: I figure, let's finish up the show and get to 448 00:17:50,148 --> 00:17:52,908 Speaker 2: some teams, because I know you've got tons left Giants. 449 00:17:52,948 --> 00:17:56,908 Speaker 2: So much buzz about the Giants potentially taking JJ McCarthy 450 00:17:56,908 --> 00:17:58,268 Speaker 2: six overall, they're on the clock. 451 00:17:58,388 --> 00:17:59,228 Speaker 8: No one trades out. 452 00:17:59,348 --> 00:18:01,668 Speaker 2: McCarthy's sitting there right for them, and they go with 453 00:18:01,788 --> 00:18:03,268 Speaker 2: receiver Molik Neighbors. 454 00:18:03,428 --> 00:18:05,228 Speaker 8: What insight do you have on that decision? 455 00:18:05,228 --> 00:18:07,188 Speaker 2: As many Giants fans are wondering, are we moving on 456 00:18:07,228 --> 00:18:09,788 Speaker 2: from Daniel Jones? No, Actually, quite the contrary, You're all 457 00:18:09,788 --> 00:18:11,308 Speaker 2: in on Daniel Jones for another season. 458 00:18:11,428 --> 00:18:13,988 Speaker 12: There were two teams that were trying to trade up 459 00:18:14,028 --> 00:18:15,188 Speaker 12: into the number three. 460 00:18:15,028 --> 00:18:17,308 Speaker 4: Pick, and I was the Giants and the Vikings. 461 00:18:17,348 --> 00:18:19,388 Speaker 12: The Patriots never got anything close to the type of 462 00:18:19,388 --> 00:18:21,068 Speaker 12: an offer that was going to make the move, and 463 00:18:21,188 --> 00:18:24,148 Speaker 12: all three teams were targeting the same guy, which was 464 00:18:24,268 --> 00:18:24,748 Speaker 12: Drake May. 465 00:18:24,868 --> 00:18:27,748 Speaker 4: The Patriots decide we're going to stand pat they take May. 466 00:18:28,068 --> 00:18:30,428 Speaker 12: At that point, it became sort of a poker game 467 00:18:30,468 --> 00:18:32,148 Speaker 12: between the Giants and the Vikings. 468 00:18:32,308 --> 00:18:33,868 Speaker 4: Do we really think New York is. 469 00:18:33,788 --> 00:18:35,628 Speaker 12: Going to take JJ McCarthy In the end, when we 470 00:18:35,628 --> 00:18:38,788 Speaker 12: found out is they're not as high on JJ McCarthy 471 00:18:38,788 --> 00:18:41,108 Speaker 12: as some other teams in the league might have been. 472 00:18:41,348 --> 00:18:43,708 Speaker 12: That a clear need at the wide receiver position. It 473 00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:45,668 Speaker 12: was a matter of they take Molik Neighbors to take 474 00:18:45,748 --> 00:18:48,188 Speaker 12: Roma Dunza. In like the forty eight hours or so 475 00:18:48,268 --> 00:18:50,428 Speaker 12: before the draft began, the words started to spread it 476 00:18:50,468 --> 00:18:53,188 Speaker 12: was going to be Malik Neighbors. There've been off field 477 00:18:53,228 --> 00:18:56,068 Speaker 12: things with him that was a concern. Would New York 478 00:18:56,148 --> 00:18:59,228 Speaker 12: go down that road? They decided to what they're getting 479 00:18:59,308 --> 00:19:01,428 Speaker 12: on the field. When you talk to coaches and scouts 480 00:19:01,428 --> 00:19:04,068 Speaker 12: that I know you do, Peter, You're getting an absolute dog. 481 00:19:04,428 --> 00:19:07,188 Speaker 12: He's the tone setter. He wants the ball on every 482 00:19:07,188 --> 00:19:10,708 Speaker 12: single snap. He's a really really good receiver. And I'm 483 00:19:10,748 --> 00:19:13,868 Speaker 12: sure they're hoping with thirty five million dollars in chains 484 00:19:13,908 --> 00:19:16,508 Speaker 12: stuck with Daniel Jones this year, this guy. 485 00:19:16,388 --> 00:19:18,028 Speaker 4: Is gonna be one of the reasons that he plays better. 486 00:19:18,068 --> 00:19:20,268 Speaker 2: And you saw so many people saying that that Neighbors 487 00:19:20,268 --> 00:19:23,108 Speaker 2: is above Harrison on some teams boards It's true he was. 488 00:19:23,588 --> 00:19:24,828 Speaker 8: You mentioned some stuff off though. 489 00:19:24,948 --> 00:19:27,228 Speaker 2: The only reason and it's nothing that's gonna you know, 490 00:19:27,228 --> 00:19:29,308 Speaker 2: it's something just some of the stuff off the field, 491 00:19:29,308 --> 00:19:30,668 Speaker 2: which is right facts, and the Giants have to be 492 00:19:30,668 --> 00:19:33,108 Speaker 2: so sensitive to that because of the Kadarius Tony situation. 493 00:19:33,188 --> 00:19:35,308 Speaker 2: But then I was told this is nothing like what 494 00:19:35,388 --> 00:19:37,708 Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony was and different kind of player. 495 00:19:37,708 --> 00:19:38,548 Speaker 8: This guy is all ball. 496 00:19:38,628 --> 00:19:40,988 Speaker 2: So we'll see Giants go receiver sixth overall, the first 497 00:19:40,988 --> 00:19:43,228 Speaker 2: time they take an LSU wide receiver in the first 498 00:19:43,308 --> 00:19:46,388 Speaker 2: round since Odell Beckham. All right, number two stay in 499 00:19:46,428 --> 00:19:48,788 Speaker 2: New York. Every mock drafted, cluding my own, had brock 500 00:19:48,828 --> 00:19:52,028 Speaker 2: Bowers to the Jets. Roma Dunza goes nine. I'm like, 501 00:19:52,068 --> 00:19:53,988 Speaker 2: all right, it's gonna be brock Bowers to the Jets. 502 00:19:54,028 --> 00:19:57,148 Speaker 2: Jets trade back one pick, they take the offensive lineman 503 00:19:57,188 --> 00:19:58,028 Speaker 2: out of Penn State. 504 00:19:58,108 --> 00:19:58,588 Speaker 4: OLU. 505 00:19:58,948 --> 00:20:00,868 Speaker 2: Your reaction to that and what insight you have on 506 00:20:00,908 --> 00:20:02,788 Speaker 2: the Jets passing on brock Bowers in the end? 507 00:20:02,828 --> 00:20:05,508 Speaker 12: Well, first of all, Joe Douglass extra draft capital for 508 00:20:05,588 --> 00:20:07,588 Speaker 12: moving back one spot because he just so happened to 509 00:20:07,628 --> 00:20:09,788 Speaker 12: have three teams behind him that were all potentially in 510 00:20:09,828 --> 00:20:13,748 Speaker 12: the quarterback market. Worked out pretty well. Not entirely shocking here. 511 00:20:13,868 --> 00:20:14,948 Speaker 12: The question was just going to. 512 00:20:14,988 --> 00:20:17,028 Speaker 4: Be, are you trying to give Aaron Rodgers another weapon? 513 00:20:17,188 --> 00:20:20,468 Speaker 12: Or given who you signed in Fradzy, Listen, Tyron Smith, 514 00:20:20,588 --> 00:20:22,308 Speaker 12: it's a one year deal. You know he's not gonna 515 00:20:22,308 --> 00:20:23,868 Speaker 12: be a long term guy. Do you need to continue 516 00:20:23,868 --> 00:20:26,148 Speaker 12: to fortify that offensive line group? Well, they use what 517 00:20:26,388 --> 00:20:29,908 Speaker 12: fourteen different offensive lineman last year was an unbelievable number. 518 00:20:30,108 --> 00:20:32,148 Speaker 4: They know better than anybody they need depth. 519 00:20:31,948 --> 00:20:34,148 Speaker 12: With a forty year old quarterback, You're thinking, how do 520 00:20:34,188 --> 00:20:35,068 Speaker 12: we keep this guy up? 521 00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:35,348 Speaker 4: Right? 522 00:20:35,468 --> 00:20:37,628 Speaker 12: Olufashana was a guy who we knew when the tackle 523 00:20:37,708 --> 00:20:40,468 Speaker 12: run began was going to go somewhere there between like 524 00:20:40,628 --> 00:20:44,348 Speaker 12: seven and fourteen. I wasn't super shocked by it, obviously. 525 00:20:44,348 --> 00:20:46,708 Speaker 12: Brock Bauers is a really unique weapon. Some people I 526 00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:48,668 Speaker 12: talked to said he was one of the few guys 527 00:20:48,708 --> 00:20:50,628 Speaker 12: in the entire draft that they would trade up for 528 00:20:51,228 --> 00:20:54,548 Speaker 12: who was not a quarterback. The Jets, though, decide they're 529 00:20:54,548 --> 00:20:57,308 Speaker 12: going to continue to fortify that offensive line group instead, 530 00:20:57,628 --> 00:20:59,588 Speaker 12: which probably means is we watched Day. 531 00:20:59,468 --> 00:21:01,348 Speaker 4: Two, Day three of this draft. 532 00:21:01,348 --> 00:21:03,988 Speaker 12: Here, let's see how many other weapons the Jets might 533 00:21:04,028 --> 00:21:04,708 Speaker 12: be able to that. 534 00:21:04,868 --> 00:21:06,908 Speaker 2: Is it bad that I'm watching brock Bauers film and 535 00:21:06,948 --> 00:21:08,868 Speaker 2: I'm like, gigg, He's my favorite player in the draft. 536 00:21:08,908 --> 00:21:12,228 Speaker 12: Well, the storyline being Jets pass on Rock, Jets get 537 00:21:12,268 --> 00:21:13,268 Speaker 12: another tackle. 538 00:21:12,988 --> 00:21:15,268 Speaker 4: To keep Aaron Rodgers from getting killed this year. 539 00:21:16,028 --> 00:21:17,668 Speaker 12: I mean, I think that that speaks to how many 540 00:21:17,668 --> 00:21:19,548 Speaker 12: people believed it was brock Bowers. 541 00:21:19,668 --> 00:21:21,108 Speaker 4: There were teams that were willing to trade up for 542 00:21:21,108 --> 00:21:21,548 Speaker 4: brock Bars. 543 00:21:22,508 --> 00:21:24,748 Speaker 12: The Raiders, while they missed out on Michael Pennix were 544 00:21:24,748 --> 00:21:27,068 Speaker 12: extacked that they got that level of a weapon here. 545 00:21:27,348 --> 00:21:30,108 Speaker 12: But again, fourth of Jets, you're thinking Aaron Rodgers can 546 00:21:30,148 --> 00:21:32,108 Speaker 12: elevate a lot of people around him. 547 00:21:32,228 --> 00:21:35,068 Speaker 4: What he can't do is block for himself. 548 00:21:35,108 --> 00:21:36,748 Speaker 12: You can get the football out you need as many 549 00:21:36,788 --> 00:21:37,268 Speaker 12: of those guys. 550 00:21:37,348 --> 00:21:38,948 Speaker 2: I will put this out there because I know that 551 00:21:39,028 --> 00:21:40,868 Speaker 2: Jedd it would have been interesting if a Doonza was 552 00:21:40,908 --> 00:21:43,628 Speaker 2: on the board. They love the Donsay awesome. So whereas 553 00:21:43,668 --> 00:21:45,708 Speaker 2: they passed brock Bowers up, and I think you can 554 00:21:45,748 --> 00:21:47,868 Speaker 2: make the argument it's like if it's a doonsa where 555 00:21:47,908 --> 00:21:49,308 Speaker 2: they have done that over Olu. 556 00:21:49,468 --> 00:21:50,228 Speaker 8: I'm not sure. 557 00:21:50,628 --> 00:21:52,428 Speaker 12: We'll never know a lot of people you said it 558 00:21:52,548 --> 00:21:55,548 Speaker 12: had those three receivers grated pretty similar that you refine 559 00:21:55,548 --> 00:21:58,668 Speaker 12: thement orders here Roma Dunzay to Chicago, man. 560 00:21:58,548 --> 00:22:00,268 Speaker 8: That is such a get for Chicago. 561 00:22:00,708 --> 00:22:02,748 Speaker 2: The last one is at the end of the first round, 562 00:22:02,828 --> 00:22:05,228 Speaker 2: and we talked about a little bit Cowboys who said 563 00:22:05,228 --> 00:22:07,508 Speaker 2: they were going to be all in, end up drafting 564 00:22:07,588 --> 00:22:09,948 Speaker 2: what might be a long term project at tackle and 565 00:22:10,108 --> 00:22:12,708 Speaker 2: Tyler get in your reaction to the Cowboys trading back 566 00:22:13,108 --> 00:22:15,548 Speaker 2: and then going offensive line, not. 567 00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:16,788 Speaker 4: Totally shocked by it. 568 00:22:16,868 --> 00:22:19,348 Speaker 12: I think that if anything, people were thinking they're going 569 00:22:19,388 --> 00:22:21,988 Speaker 12: to go interior here, whether that was Graham Barton, if 570 00:22:21,988 --> 00:22:25,068 Speaker 12: you were still on the board, whether that was Zach Frazier, Jackson, 571 00:22:25,068 --> 00:22:28,828 Speaker 12: Powers Johnson. With Tyler En, you're getting a really talented player. 572 00:22:28,868 --> 00:22:31,508 Speaker 12: The only knocks that I really heard on Tyler Geydon 573 00:22:31,708 --> 00:22:32,628 Speaker 12: was there were just. 574 00:22:32,548 --> 00:22:35,508 Speaker 4: Some the love football that much. There were some just 575 00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:37,588 Speaker 4: overall maturity types of things here. 576 00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:40,548 Speaker 12: The Cowboys have never been shy about taking those types 577 00:22:40,588 --> 00:22:44,868 Speaker 12: of players. They're looking for guys with traits. Geydon has traits. 578 00:22:45,028 --> 00:22:49,028 Speaker 12: They lost Tyron Smith, they lost Tyler Biattish. In this offseason, 579 00:22:49,228 --> 00:22:52,508 Speaker 12: the offensive line was a huge priority. Quite frankly, the Cowboys. 580 00:22:52,508 --> 00:22:54,308 Speaker 12: As much as you talk about, okay, you'd like to 581 00:22:54,348 --> 00:22:57,468 Speaker 12: take the best player available, this is a need draft 582 00:22:57,508 --> 00:22:58,708 Speaker 12: for the Dallas Cowboys. 583 00:22:58,748 --> 00:23:00,388 Speaker 4: They lost so many guys in free agency. 584 00:23:00,468 --> 00:23:02,308 Speaker 12: They got to fill some needs, and today the next 585 00:23:02,308 --> 00:23:03,628 Speaker 12: one might be the running back. 586 00:23:03,468 --> 00:23:04,308 Speaker 4: That they've taken around two. 587 00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:05,988 Speaker 8: I want to end it with this because we started 588 00:23:05,988 --> 00:23:06,508 Speaker 8: the show with it. 589 00:23:06,668 --> 00:23:09,948 Speaker 2: Michael Pennix, you had an amazing rant at seven to 590 00:23:09,988 --> 00:23:12,388 Speaker 2: ten in the morning. Earlier it went online. I'm sure 591 00:23:12,388 --> 00:23:14,628 Speaker 2: it's going big. There's just surprise around the league. The 592 00:23:14,628 --> 00:23:16,308 Speaker 2: thing that you said that that blew me away. He said, 593 00:23:16,348 --> 00:23:19,068 Speaker 2: the biggest shock, not only from this draft, but maybe 594 00:23:19,068 --> 00:23:21,868 Speaker 2: in the last five years, was the Atlanta Falcons taking 595 00:23:21,908 --> 00:23:24,708 Speaker 2: Michael Pennock's eighth. Overall, You've had a few hours to let. 596 00:23:24,668 --> 00:23:25,708 Speaker 8: That marinate online. 597 00:23:25,868 --> 00:23:28,548 Speaker 2: Anyone texts you about that, take anyone to ever comment 598 00:23:28,588 --> 00:23:28,748 Speaker 2: on it. 599 00:23:28,788 --> 00:23:30,628 Speaker 8: I'd like to hear the reactions in saying that. 600 00:23:30,708 --> 00:23:33,748 Speaker 12: I think that people largely have the same questions. Everyone 601 00:23:33,788 --> 00:23:35,508 Speaker 12: I've talked to is asking the same thing, which is 602 00:23:35,588 --> 00:23:37,828 Speaker 12: just what was the thought process here? 603 00:23:37,828 --> 00:23:38,388 Speaker 2: It's just so. 604 00:23:38,348 --> 00:23:40,428 Speaker 12: Uniquely Like I've led to some of those other names 605 00:23:40,548 --> 00:23:42,668 Speaker 12: of surprise picks the draft, it wasn't a surprised Michael 606 00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:45,948 Speaker 12: Pennix went you had it in the top thirteen thirteen. 607 00:23:45,988 --> 00:23:47,788 Speaker 12: I had him thirteen in my mock that I don't 608 00:23:47,788 --> 00:23:48,268 Speaker 12: publish on. 609 00:23:48,348 --> 00:23:49,588 Speaker 4: Of the courage that you do got. 610 00:23:49,628 --> 00:23:51,228 Speaker 12: He got thirty two of thirty two in his mock 611 00:23:51,228 --> 00:23:55,548 Speaker 12: that he didn't not bad, but everybody believed that. 612 00:23:55,828 --> 00:23:58,508 Speaker 4: You know, that was probably you know the direction here. 613 00:23:58,548 --> 00:24:01,348 Speaker 4: It just was. It was interesting because there was so 614 00:24:01,468 --> 00:24:03,788 Speaker 4: much smoke. There was so much scuttle butt. 615 00:24:03,828 --> 00:24:06,748 Speaker 12: Okay, the Falcons really like Michael Pennix. It felt like 616 00:24:06,908 --> 00:24:10,108 Speaker 12: a smoke screen. Nobody thought it was going to go 617 00:24:10,468 --> 00:24:12,108 Speaker 12: that direction. Once they got on the clock. They had 618 00:24:12,148 --> 00:24:14,828 Speaker 12: conversations about a trade that didn't materialize. You need a 619 00:24:14,868 --> 00:24:17,668 Speaker 12: second team to trade with. How about this sad that 620 00:24:17,748 --> 00:24:20,388 Speaker 12: I emailed? Our NFL research team got back instantly because 621 00:24:20,388 --> 00:24:22,348 Speaker 12: they're that good at their job. Falcons are the first 622 00:24:22,388 --> 00:24:25,748 Speaker 12: team in the common Draft era in nineteen seventy that 623 00:24:25,828 --> 00:24:28,948 Speaker 12: has ever taken four skill position players in the top 624 00:24:28,988 --> 00:24:32,588 Speaker 12: eight in four consecutive drafts. There's only been two teams 625 00:24:32,588 --> 00:24:35,468 Speaker 12: that did it three straight times, and that was these 626 00:24:35,468 --> 00:24:38,028 Speaker 12: are some rough days here. But it was the early 627 00:24:38,028 --> 00:24:42,188 Speaker 12: two thousands Lions when they took Joey Perrington and Roy 628 00:24:42,228 --> 00:24:46,148 Speaker 12: Williams and the Mission State guy Rogers Charles Rodgers, and 629 00:24:46,228 --> 00:24:49,188 Speaker 12: then it was the late two thousands Raiders where they 630 00:24:49,188 --> 00:24:52,908 Speaker 12: went on the run of JaMarcus Russell, Darius Hayward Bay 631 00:24:53,468 --> 00:24:56,548 Speaker 12: and Darren mcfatta. Okay, so I'm not saying that's the 632 00:24:56,588 --> 00:24:59,348 Speaker 12: direction we're going here, but if you're wondering how rare 633 00:24:59,428 --> 00:25:01,428 Speaker 12: it is for a team to do what the Falcons 634 00:25:01,508 --> 00:25:04,188 Speaker 12: just did four consecutive years, taking a skill position player. 635 00:25:04,388 --> 00:25:06,068 Speaker 12: By the way, they just give a different skill guy 636 00:25:06,068 --> 00:25:08,388 Speaker 12: at the same position one hundred million dollars guarantee. 637 00:25:08,428 --> 00:25:11,468 Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest head scratchers of the weekend. 638 00:25:11,468 --> 00:25:12,948 Speaker 2: You said the last five years, I don't know if 639 00:25:12,988 --> 00:25:15,668 Speaker 2: I ever remember a pick that just on paper is 640 00:25:15,708 --> 00:25:18,548 Speaker 2: so confusing that Michael Pennis in Yet in the same 641 00:25:18,548 --> 00:25:20,628 Speaker 2: offseason where they let the world know that they're not 642 00:25:20,708 --> 00:25:23,108 Speaker 2: hiring Bill Belichick, the greatest coach of all time, and 643 00:25:23,108 --> 00:25:25,468 Speaker 2: they're hiring someone else because they have their process. 644 00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:28,308 Speaker 8: They have their process on this decision. The Atlanta Falcons 645 00:25:28,348 --> 00:25:28,988 Speaker 8: are out there on a. 646 00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:31,188 Speaker 4: Limb this year, and I would no two. I'm not 647 00:25:31,228 --> 00:25:33,948 Speaker 4: saying we're not. We don't know. This could end up 648 00:25:33,948 --> 00:25:35,588 Speaker 4: being brilliant. You could have a Kirk. 649 00:25:35,388 --> 00:25:38,788 Speaker 12: Cousins god for Biharon Rodgers last year, where it's for 650 00:25:39,028 --> 00:25:41,308 Speaker 12: Sam and Achilles and he all of a sudden, Kirk 651 00:25:41,348 --> 00:25:43,908 Speaker 12: goes down and Michael Penis is playing for you. But 652 00:25:43,948 --> 00:25:46,148 Speaker 12: Aaron Rodgers would have lost his mind if right after 653 00:25:46,188 --> 00:25:48,508 Speaker 12: the Jets made the commitment to him and true that they. 654 00:25:48,468 --> 00:25:49,748 Speaker 4: Used their first rump pick last year. 655 00:25:49,828 --> 00:25:52,228 Speaker 2: How could you imagine take a quarter But Jets signed 656 00:25:52,268 --> 00:25:55,308 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers last year and then went to eighth overall pick, 657 00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:56,148 Speaker 2: take a quarterback? 658 00:25:56,148 --> 00:25:57,468 Speaker 8: Could you imagine Rodgers' reaction? 659 00:25:59,548 --> 00:26:02,068 Speaker 12: Michael Pads Michael Penicks is one of the most polarizing 660 00:26:02,108 --> 00:26:04,188 Speaker 12: players in the draft. I had one coach tell me 661 00:26:04,628 --> 00:26:07,148 Speaker 12: weeks ago he was the second best quarterback behind callable 662 00:26:07,148 --> 00:26:09,708 Speaker 12: As when he watch his tape, second best one. Several 663 00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:12,388 Speaker 12: other people told me he is seventh. He is below 664 00:26:12,508 --> 00:26:15,668 Speaker 12: Spencer Rattler. Okay, so it depended do you think you 665 00:26:15,708 --> 00:26:18,948 Speaker 12: could play with that style of quarterback. There were people 666 00:26:18,988 --> 00:26:20,948 Speaker 12: who really didn't buy into it. The people who did 667 00:26:20,988 --> 00:26:22,708 Speaker 12: buy into it thought, Okay, if he got a guy 668 00:26:22,708 --> 00:26:24,108 Speaker 12: who can just get the football out of his hand 669 00:26:24,108 --> 00:26:27,028 Speaker 12: really quickly see the field, give him a clean pocket. 670 00:26:27,188 --> 00:26:29,348 Speaker 12: Sounds a lot like Kirk Cousins. They now have that 671 00:26:29,468 --> 00:26:31,908 Speaker 12: other guy. Maybe this works out beautifully for him. But 672 00:26:31,908 --> 00:26:34,228 Speaker 12: I would say if they did not make things easier 673 00:26:34,268 --> 00:26:38,268 Speaker 12: on themselves publicly with their fans, with the media. 674 00:26:38,148 --> 00:26:39,028 Speaker 4: Or in their own locker room. 675 00:26:39,268 --> 00:26:40,988 Speaker 2: And now they have another thing that they have a 676 00:26:41,068 --> 00:26:43,748 Speaker 2: deal with looming, pendix will always be hovering now. 677 00:26:44,188 --> 00:26:47,428 Speaker 12: Six weeks ago, they gave Kirk Cousins one hundred million 678 00:26:47,468 --> 00:26:50,668 Speaker 12: dollars guaranteed. And for Cousins, it was all about finally 679 00:26:50,788 --> 00:26:53,148 Speaker 12: a team that's committed to me. That was the issue 680 00:26:53,148 --> 00:26:55,468 Speaker 12: in Minnesota. It was about the commitment. The Vikings wouldn't 681 00:26:55,468 --> 00:26:57,308 Speaker 12: fully guarantee here too. I'm going to go to the 682 00:26:57,308 --> 00:26:58,828 Speaker 12: place where I know I'm going to be the quarterback 683 00:26:58,868 --> 00:27:01,828 Speaker 12: for two three years? Are you honestly are you the 684 00:27:01,908 --> 00:27:04,588 Speaker 12: quarterback for two or three years? At this point in 685 00:27:04,628 --> 00:27:06,948 Speaker 12: a year, we talked about Kirk Cousins getting traded because 686 00:27:06,988 --> 00:27:09,148 Speaker 12: they're ready to move to Michael Pennocks. There's so many 687 00:27:09,188 --> 00:27:11,668 Speaker 12: tentacles of this and so much potential fallout. 688 00:27:12,188 --> 00:27:14,988 Speaker 4: We're just seeing the start of the story in Atlanta. 689 00:27:15,028 --> 00:27:18,228 Speaker 4: For the Falcon's sake, over works out, we'll see. Well. 690 00:27:18,268 --> 00:27:20,908 Speaker 3: The one surprise we did get last night was Michael 691 00:27:20,988 --> 00:27:24,348 Speaker 3: Pennis junior. We've got Jim Naggy senior Bull director of 692 00:27:24,388 --> 00:27:28,268 Speaker 3: Peter Schreger to break down Michael Pennis Junior. I mean, 693 00:27:28,268 --> 00:27:29,308 Speaker 3: obviously he's helping. 694 00:27:29,068 --> 00:27:29,828 Speaker 4: The Senior Bowl. 695 00:27:30,708 --> 00:27:33,068 Speaker 3: But was his Senior Bull performance something that caught the 696 00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:36,188 Speaker 3: iris time there, that caught the ie of the Atlanta Falcons. 697 00:27:36,188 --> 00:27:36,788 Speaker 10: We'll find out. 698 00:27:49,348 --> 00:27:50,868 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 699 00:27:51,988 --> 00:27:53,588 Speaker 8: Welcome back to Good Morning Football. 700 00:27:53,588 --> 00:27:57,748 Speaker 2: I'm Peter Schreeger, and this is Detroit, Michigan, home of 701 00:27:58,028 --> 00:28:01,868 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. We get kick started 702 00:28:01,908 --> 00:28:05,908 Speaker 2: tonight at seven pm ECE. Hearing the last night, the 703 00:28:05,948 --> 00:28:10,628 Speaker 2: story was surprises, trades, and of course quarterbacks. And I'm 704 00:28:10,628 --> 00:28:13,148 Speaker 2: here with Jim Naggy, who's the executive director of the 705 00:28:13,188 --> 00:28:17,108 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. We saw ten different players who preticiated in 706 00:28:17,108 --> 00:28:18,988 Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl go in the first round last night. 707 00:28:18,988 --> 00:28:20,228 Speaker 8: They were only two last year. 708 00:28:20,388 --> 00:28:22,668 Speaker 2: Jim, You've got to be thrilled as the executive director. 709 00:28:22,388 --> 00:28:22,948 Speaker 8: Of the whole event. 710 00:28:23,188 --> 00:28:24,628 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a great night, Peter. 711 00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:27,268 Speaker 14: Just happy for those guys, Happy for you know, this 712 00:28:27,308 --> 00:28:29,068 Speaker 14: is the end of their journey, you know, like it's 713 00:28:29,148 --> 00:28:31,908 Speaker 14: so much sacrifice, so many people poured into these players. 714 00:28:32,188 --> 00:28:34,268 Speaker 14: So to see ten guys go off, it was it 715 00:28:34,268 --> 00:28:34,868 Speaker 14: was a fun night. 716 00:28:34,948 --> 00:28:37,348 Speaker 2: One of those guys was Michael Pennix junior going in 717 00:28:37,388 --> 00:28:39,988 Speaker 2: the top ten. He was a Senior Bowl participant. You 718 00:28:40,148 --> 00:28:42,348 Speaker 2: worked at NFL front offices forever. You've been a part 719 00:28:42,348 --> 00:28:45,028 Speaker 2: of six different Super Bowl teams. I got to ask 720 00:28:45,068 --> 00:28:47,468 Speaker 2: you to eighth overall when you already have Kirk Cousins 721 00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:49,028 Speaker 2: as a former front office guy. 722 00:28:49,068 --> 00:28:49,868 Speaker 8: What was your reaction. 723 00:28:50,108 --> 00:28:52,668 Speaker 14: Well, I'll say this about Terry Fontno. You know the 724 00:28:52,988 --> 00:28:55,308 Speaker 14: people are questioning the move today. I think he hit 725 00:28:55,348 --> 00:28:57,588 Speaker 14: a solid double in the offseason getting Kirk Cousins. 726 00:28:57,628 --> 00:28:59,148 Speaker 4: He's going swinging for the fences. 727 00:28:59,228 --> 00:28:59,388 Speaker 2: Right. 728 00:29:00,348 --> 00:29:03,748 Speaker 14: We talk about how quarterback is the most important position 729 00:29:03,788 --> 00:29:05,988 Speaker 14: in sports, and then teams don't really. 730 00:29:05,788 --> 00:29:06,708 Speaker 4: Address it that way. 731 00:29:06,788 --> 00:29:09,468 Speaker 14: So I'll just go I'll take you back real quickly 732 00:29:09,548 --> 00:29:11,428 Speaker 14: to the first time I saw Michael Pennix was at 733 00:29:11,428 --> 00:29:13,548 Speaker 14: the Manning camp, like three or four summers ago. 734 00:29:13,748 --> 00:29:15,668 Speaker 4: He was still in Indiana. I didn't know what he 735 00:29:15,708 --> 00:29:17,388 Speaker 4: looked like. I show up at this camp. I don't 736 00:29:17,388 --> 00:29:18,668 Speaker 4: know what any of these guys really look like. 737 00:29:18,868 --> 00:29:21,428 Speaker 14: I see this guy throwing howartzers all over the field, 738 00:29:21,468 --> 00:29:23,988 Speaker 14: and I've handed left handed, and I think I grabbed 739 00:29:24,028 --> 00:29:25,988 Speaker 14: Rhet Lewis, and I'm like, Rhet, who's the guy that 740 00:29:26,108 --> 00:29:26,588 Speaker 14: was just throwing. 741 00:29:26,628 --> 00:29:28,668 Speaker 4: He goes, Oh, that's Pennix from Mi Alma Mater. I'm like, 742 00:29:28,708 --> 00:29:30,868 Speaker 4: holy cow, that kid can throw it. So very cool. 743 00:29:30,948 --> 00:29:32,908 Speaker 4: Like four years later we see him go eight overall. 744 00:29:33,068 --> 00:29:34,068 Speaker 8: Yeah, and then getting to know. 745 00:29:34,108 --> 00:29:36,308 Speaker 2: Him at the Senior Bowl, Like, what are the Falcons 746 00:29:36,308 --> 00:29:38,548 Speaker 2: fans getting in there? QB two Now, I guess, but 747 00:29:38,588 --> 00:29:40,028 Speaker 2: what are they getting in Penix? As far as a 748 00:29:40,028 --> 00:29:41,868 Speaker 2: man and a leader, guy that's been through a lot, 749 00:29:42,068 --> 00:29:43,828 Speaker 2: A guy that's been through a lot, you talk. I mean, 750 00:29:44,108 --> 00:29:45,508 Speaker 2: I go back to my time in Seattle. 751 00:29:45,548 --> 00:29:48,228 Speaker 14: Coach Carroll wanted players that had been through adversity and 752 00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:50,308 Speaker 14: proven they could get through it. There's nothing worse as 753 00:29:50,308 --> 00:29:51,948 Speaker 14: a player to sit in a training room for as 754 00:29:51,988 --> 00:29:53,308 Speaker 14: long as he had to sit in a training room 755 00:29:53,308 --> 00:29:55,148 Speaker 14: all those years in Indiana and to get through that 756 00:29:55,188 --> 00:29:57,148 Speaker 14: and come out the other side and have two really 757 00:29:57,188 --> 00:29:58,108 Speaker 14: fully healthy years. 758 00:29:58,268 --> 00:29:59,068 Speaker 4: He's grown a lot. 759 00:29:59,148 --> 00:30:01,948 Speaker 14: You're getting a grown man that's been through some stuff 760 00:30:02,068 --> 00:30:03,348 Speaker 14: and show up for training camp. 761 00:30:03,428 --> 00:30:04,788 Speaker 4: You want to watch this guy throw live? 762 00:30:04,908 --> 00:30:05,228 Speaker 8: Yeah? 763 00:30:05,548 --> 00:30:08,188 Speaker 2: Number twelve overall. The Broncos are on the clock, and 764 00:30:08,228 --> 00:30:11,428 Speaker 2: they don't trade back. They take bow Knicks, a six 765 00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:14,508 Speaker 2: year college player who was at Auburn then went to Oregon, 766 00:30:14,748 --> 00:30:16,268 Speaker 2: another Senior Bowl participant. 767 00:30:16,388 --> 00:30:18,228 Speaker 8: You're reacting to that pick and what the. 768 00:30:18,268 --> 00:30:20,348 Speaker 2: Broncos fancy to know about Bo Nicks, and you've got 769 00:30:20,348 --> 00:30:21,348 Speaker 2: to know very well well. 770 00:30:21,388 --> 00:30:23,988 Speaker 14: I think the Broncos did a great job of keeping 771 00:30:24,028 --> 00:30:26,068 Speaker 14: that under wraps because I think they've known and Bo 772 00:30:26,268 --> 00:30:27,988 Speaker 14: is their guy for a long time. I just have 773 00:30:28,068 --> 00:30:30,548 Speaker 14: a hard time if you spend time around bow Knicks 774 00:30:30,868 --> 00:30:32,668 Speaker 14: and then you know what Sean Payton likes. 775 00:30:32,788 --> 00:30:34,828 Speaker 4: That's just the perfect marriage. You got to guy in that. 776 00:30:34,828 --> 00:30:36,908 Speaker 8: Because I wouldn't. We don't know Bonnicks like you do. 777 00:30:37,028 --> 00:30:39,348 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, Bo's a you know, son of a height, 778 00:30:39,508 --> 00:30:42,068 Speaker 14: really established high school coach, great high school coach in 779 00:30:42,108 --> 00:30:45,268 Speaker 14: the state of Alabama, total film junkie, loves football, immersed 780 00:30:45,268 --> 00:30:45,788 Speaker 14: in it, you know. 781 00:30:45,788 --> 00:30:47,748 Speaker 4: And then you've got Sean Payton, who he's. 782 00:30:47,668 --> 00:30:50,108 Speaker 14: Won a Super Bowl with a guy who's accurate, gets 783 00:30:50,148 --> 00:30:53,108 Speaker 14: the ball out on time, very Drew Brees likes. 784 00:30:53,148 --> 00:30:54,988 Speaker 4: So to me, this one just made too much sense 785 00:30:55,068 --> 00:30:55,748 Speaker 4: not to happen. 786 00:30:55,828 --> 00:30:57,828 Speaker 8: And his Senior Bowl experience was with him. 787 00:30:57,868 --> 00:31:00,188 Speaker 14: Yeah, Bo, I mean he got better every day, you know, 788 00:31:00,308 --> 00:31:02,148 Speaker 14: he got better every single day, and that's what that's 789 00:31:02,148 --> 00:31:03,068 Speaker 14: what the teams look for. 790 00:31:03,108 --> 00:31:05,708 Speaker 4: The first day is kind of like if you're a scout. 791 00:31:05,388 --> 00:31:07,308 Speaker 14: At Senior Boy, You're like, it's kind of a kind 792 00:31:07,308 --> 00:31:08,228 Speaker 14: of a throwaway day. 793 00:31:08,308 --> 00:31:09,988 Speaker 4: Let's let these guys get their legs under him. 794 00:31:09,988 --> 00:31:11,628 Speaker 14: But he got better every day, and I think he 795 00:31:11,668 --> 00:31:14,388 Speaker 14: blew away all the guys in the interviews because I'm 796 00:31:14,388 --> 00:31:15,828 Speaker 14: not in those interviews, so I have to walk on 797 00:31:15,868 --> 00:31:17,828 Speaker 14: and ask guys like who's doing good, who's you know, 798 00:31:17,868 --> 00:31:18,948 Speaker 14: who's struggling a little bit? 799 00:31:19,428 --> 00:31:20,828 Speaker 4: And Bo's Nate kept coming up. 800 00:31:21,108 --> 00:31:24,628 Speaker 2: Defensive players didn't go until fifteenth overall, and the first 801 00:31:24,668 --> 00:31:27,148 Speaker 2: defensive player was a Senior Bowl participant and a guy 802 00:31:27,188 --> 00:31:29,508 Speaker 2: who was off some team's boards because of a medical 803 00:31:29,548 --> 00:31:32,308 Speaker 2: red flag when he was medically retired after a neck 804 00:31:32,308 --> 00:31:33,588 Speaker 2: in jur at the University of Washington. 805 00:31:33,588 --> 00:31:35,748 Speaker 8: I'm talking about lat too out of UCLA. 806 00:31:36,028 --> 00:31:39,068 Speaker 2: He goes fifteenth overall to Chris Vallard, the first defensive 807 00:31:39,068 --> 00:31:39,748 Speaker 2: player off the board. 808 00:31:39,788 --> 00:31:41,188 Speaker 8: What was your reaction, Yeah. 809 00:31:41,068 --> 00:31:43,548 Speaker 14: So happy for leaut to him and what he and 810 00:31:43,628 --> 00:31:44,548 Speaker 14: his family have been. 811 00:31:44,468 --> 00:31:46,228 Speaker 4: Through with this. I mean, think about that three or 812 00:31:46,268 --> 00:31:47,548 Speaker 4: four years ago he was totally. 813 00:31:47,348 --> 00:31:50,308 Speaker 14: Can't play football anymore, and then four years later. He's 814 00:31:50,388 --> 00:31:52,908 Speaker 14: the first defensive player picked in the draft. So, I mean, 815 00:31:53,028 --> 00:31:55,188 Speaker 14: Chris Ballard, you're sitting there. You get layout two lots 816 00:31:55,308 --> 00:31:57,908 Speaker 14: at fifteen. You don't have to trade up for him. 817 00:31:57,988 --> 00:31:59,308 Speaker 4: I know Chris has to be thrilled. 818 00:31:59,468 --> 00:32:02,908 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know again, Senior boat player Quinion Mitchell 819 00:32:03,108 --> 00:32:07,388 Speaker 2: out of Toledo is the first defensive back taken smaller school. 820 00:32:07,588 --> 00:32:10,068 Speaker 2: But Nick Saban said on one of the broadcasts last 821 00:32:10,148 --> 00:32:12,828 Speaker 2: night that we begged him to transfer in the transfer 822 00:32:12,868 --> 00:32:15,188 Speaker 2: portal and he was like, no, I'm good at Toledo. 823 00:32:15,228 --> 00:32:16,028 Speaker 8: I'm gonna stay here. 824 00:32:16,148 --> 00:32:17,908 Speaker 2: But he was already viewed as one of those prospects 825 00:32:17,948 --> 00:32:18,828 Speaker 2: you guys obviously had your. 826 00:32:18,708 --> 00:32:20,068 Speaker 8: Eyes on to invitto the Senior Bowl. 827 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:22,228 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I give his agent a lot of credit. 828 00:32:22,268 --> 00:32:24,228 Speaker 4: There was a lot of agents when Coinnn. 829 00:32:23,948 --> 00:32:25,908 Speaker 14: Was going through the agent process telling him not to 830 00:32:25,908 --> 00:32:27,548 Speaker 14: come to Mobile, that he's probably going to be a 831 00:32:27,628 --> 00:32:28,708 Speaker 14: late first runner any day. 832 00:32:28,788 --> 00:32:31,068 Speaker 4: Will he comes and improves his stock. 833 00:32:31,468 --> 00:32:33,468 Speaker 14: This guy was loyal to as the group of guys 834 00:32:33,508 --> 00:32:35,628 Speaker 14: he came in with, he was loyal to his coaches, 835 00:32:35,828 --> 00:32:37,388 Speaker 14: and the thing he showed at the Senior Bowl was 836 00:32:37,388 --> 00:32:39,588 Speaker 14: what he could do in pressman coverage didn't. 837 00:32:39,388 --> 00:32:40,948 Speaker 4: See a lot of that at Toledo. 838 00:32:41,348 --> 00:32:43,668 Speaker 14: Big strong guy, and then he leaves mobile and runs 839 00:32:43,668 --> 00:32:45,948 Speaker 14: four to three to three at the combine. The dude's 840 00:32:46,148 --> 00:32:48,388 Speaker 14: checking every box and Philly needs help at corner. 841 00:32:48,428 --> 00:32:50,268 Speaker 4: This was a great pick by Howie. 842 00:32:50,668 --> 00:32:53,188 Speaker 2: One of the quarterbacks that we have not spoken about 843 00:32:53,268 --> 00:32:55,668 Speaker 2: much today. At the second overall pick, Jaden Daniels. You 844 00:32:55,748 --> 00:32:57,908 Speaker 2: of course did the work on Jayden as a Senior 845 00:32:57,908 --> 00:33:00,628 Speaker 2: Bowl director. What are the Washington Commanders fans getting in 846 00:33:00,708 --> 00:33:02,748 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels, who you've seen play for many years? 847 00:33:02,908 --> 00:33:03,468 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have. 848 00:33:03,628 --> 00:33:05,828 Speaker 14: And I thought he was the most improved quarterback two 849 00:33:05,908 --> 00:33:07,588 Speaker 14: years ago in twenty twenty two. 850 00:33:07,788 --> 00:33:08,868 Speaker 4: Then he comes back this year. 851 00:33:08,868 --> 00:33:10,868 Speaker 14: Everyone makes a big deal of the progress he made 852 00:33:10,908 --> 00:33:11,828 Speaker 14: this year, and he did. 853 00:33:12,228 --> 00:33:14,348 Speaker 4: But this guy's getting better and better and better, and 854 00:33:14,428 --> 00:33:15,868 Speaker 4: I thought this might be the pick. 855 00:33:15,948 --> 00:33:18,028 Speaker 14: You know, spending time with dan Quinn and Seattle like 856 00:33:18,068 --> 00:33:19,868 Speaker 14: I did in Adam Peters in New England, I was. 857 00:33:19,788 --> 00:33:20,628 Speaker 4: With both those guys. 858 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:23,028 Speaker 14: Dan Quinn was probably thinking which one of these guys 859 00:33:23,068 --> 00:33:26,028 Speaker 14: don't wouldn't I want to defend, you know, like trying 860 00:33:26,068 --> 00:33:28,628 Speaker 14: to do this guy was gonna keep defensive coordinators up 861 00:33:28,628 --> 00:33:28,948 Speaker 14: at night. 862 00:33:29,028 --> 00:33:31,308 Speaker 4: So the pick makes a lot of sense. Jayden. I 863 00:33:31,428 --> 00:33:32,588 Speaker 4: was in Tuscalusa for. 864 00:33:32,548 --> 00:33:34,428 Speaker 14: That Alabama game and watching him do what he did 865 00:33:34,468 --> 00:33:35,628 Speaker 14: to Nick Saban's defense. 866 00:33:35,828 --> 00:33:37,228 Speaker 4: I mean, this kid's phenomenal. 867 00:33:37,348 --> 00:33:39,548 Speaker 2: Are you surprised by the order how it went? Pennix 868 00:33:39,548 --> 00:33:42,308 Speaker 2: before McCarthy. When we do this stuff, we do it 869 00:33:42,668 --> 00:33:45,188 Speaker 2: and every team has their board. But when it's all 870 00:33:45,228 --> 00:33:47,148 Speaker 2: said and done, we've got six quarterbacks going on the 871 00:33:47,148 --> 00:33:49,668 Speaker 2: top twelve and it goes Kayleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake 872 00:33:49,748 --> 00:33:52,868 Speaker 2: May three, Pennix four, McCarthy five, Nick six. 873 00:33:52,948 --> 00:33:53,868 Speaker 8: Is that how you at it? 874 00:33:54,028 --> 00:33:54,108 Speaker 4: No? 875 00:33:54,228 --> 00:33:57,828 Speaker 14: I mean I think it's the JJ Pennix thing. Everything 876 00:33:57,828 --> 00:34:00,188 Speaker 14: else came off kind of true. I'll say this about 877 00:34:00,228 --> 00:34:02,868 Speaker 14: Michael Penix. I think he really built steam once the 878 00:34:02,868 --> 00:34:05,228 Speaker 14: coaches got involved in the process, because he has things 879 00:34:05,268 --> 00:34:07,468 Speaker 14: you can't coach. You saw him, You've seen him throw 880 00:34:07,548 --> 00:34:09,908 Speaker 14: live I mean, you can't coach that arm. You can't 881 00:34:09,948 --> 00:34:11,708 Speaker 14: coach what he can do from the pocket. So again, 882 00:34:11,908 --> 00:34:13,868 Speaker 14: I think so the scouts maybe picked him apart a 883 00:34:13,908 --> 00:34:15,628 Speaker 14: little bit some of the underneath accuracy. 884 00:34:15,948 --> 00:34:17,668 Speaker 4: I think coaches think they can clean that up. 885 00:34:18,028 --> 00:34:20,508 Speaker 14: And then this guy taking shots and the accuracy on 886 00:34:20,548 --> 00:34:22,468 Speaker 14: the deep ball. You can't coach that either, So that's 887 00:34:22,468 --> 00:34:23,188 Speaker 14: why you see. 888 00:34:23,028 --> 00:34:24,828 Speaker 4: Pennix kind of make that late push. 889 00:34:24,828 --> 00:34:26,148 Speaker 2: So you had all these guys at the senior bro, 890 00:34:26,268 --> 00:34:28,148 Speaker 2: are you already looking at next year's quarterbacks? 891 00:34:28,508 --> 00:34:31,228 Speaker 4: We are, we are. I have not yet. 892 00:34:31,268 --> 00:34:32,868 Speaker 14: I kind of like to get through the draft and 893 00:34:33,108 --> 00:34:34,148 Speaker 14: then get onto the next year. 894 00:34:34,548 --> 00:34:35,068 Speaker 4: One. 895 00:34:35,108 --> 00:34:37,028 Speaker 2: Give us one quarterback to watch for this next up. 896 00:34:37,028 --> 00:34:38,108 Speaker 2: I'm in college football season. 897 00:34:38,108 --> 00:34:40,748 Speaker 14: Absolutely, you're putting me on the spottles, say Carson Beckett Georgia. 898 00:34:40,908 --> 00:34:42,508 Speaker 14: I was just at their spring game a couple of 899 00:34:42,548 --> 00:34:45,228 Speaker 14: weeks ago. Yeah, he was really good and she's talented. 900 00:34:45,228 --> 00:34:47,068 Speaker 14: Hed he come up this year, would have went today, 901 00:34:47,108 --> 00:34:49,188 Speaker 14: probably would have went on Friday. 902 00:34:48,868 --> 00:34:50,148 Speaker 8: So you wouldn't have put him in the top six 903 00:34:50,148 --> 00:34:50,748 Speaker 8: out of this crew. 904 00:34:51,828 --> 00:34:54,828 Speaker 14: No, not in this class, but coming back, and he's 905 00:34:54,868 --> 00:34:56,228 Speaker 14: one of those guys and he's going to be in 906 00:34:56,228 --> 00:34:57,348 Speaker 14: the first round mix next year. 907 00:34:57,388 --> 00:34:59,228 Speaker 4: He was really good a couple of saturdays ago. 908 00:34:59,148 --> 00:35:02,468 Speaker 2: When I saw him, Carson beck Carson beck Georgia, I 909 00:35:02,508 --> 00:35:04,388 Speaker 2: go get your mock draft twenty twenty five. 910 00:35:04,428 --> 00:35:05,788 Speaker 8: I've ready and I'm already on it. 911 00:35:05,948 --> 00:35:07,548 Speaker 2: Jim Nagi, thanks so much for joining us. Such a 912 00:35:07,548 --> 00:35:09,268 Speaker 2: friend to the NFL network. Of course, you can watch 913 00:35:09,268 --> 00:35:12,228 Speaker 2: a Senior Ball in January every year and Jim as 914 00:35:12,268 --> 00:35:14,428 Speaker 2: the executive director, runs the showdown in Mobile, one of 915 00:35:14,428 --> 00:35:17,188 Speaker 2: my favorite favorite events that we do and of course 916 00:35:17,188 --> 00:35:19,308 Speaker 2: one of the best things in the college football and 917 00:35:19,468 --> 00:35:20,268 Speaker 2: pro season. 918 00:35:21,548 --> 00:35:23,548 Speaker 3: Guys, I know you're hearing it from your wives. Please 919 00:35:23,588 --> 00:35:26,388 Speaker 3: go get some sleep at some point, eat some food, 920 00:35:26,588 --> 00:35:29,428 Speaker 3: drink your electrolytes. We've got two more big days to 921 00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:30,828 Speaker 3: talk about here on Good Morning Football. 922 00:35:30,828 --> 00:35:31,508 Speaker 12: We'll see you next. 923 00:35:32,428 --> 00:35:33,428 Speaker 8: Don't bring anyone home. 924 00:35:33,588 --> 00:35:34,868 Speaker 2: Job Jane