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Speaker 1: your host. Michael Bumpis and Paul Moyer. Michael Bumps and

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Speaker 1: Paul Moyer. Here Hawks Live every Thursday at seven pm

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Speaker 1: right here on seven in ESPN. It's been a while, Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's been a it has I was thinking, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: know this is really off the wall, but I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: in Doc, here's just been fourteen weeks. You're the numbers guy,

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time. It's been a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I should have left you, but I'll ado beat to

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Speaker 1: step two. That is a rap lyric Therapaul, if you

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Speaker 1: didn't know what I was doing, Yeah, like I haven't

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Speaker 1: fallow that. You know what I listened to on my

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Speaker 1: way here? Yeah I do. I do. We'll save that

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Speaker 1: for another We'll say that, well, these Hawks are five

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Speaker 1: and oh yeah, and we had an interesting conversation before

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Speaker 1: we got on air, and you could nitpick the Hawks

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Speaker 1: however you want to do it. You can say the

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Speaker 1: offense is this the defense is that look at these numbers.

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Speaker 1: Look at those numbers, they're five and oh though, everyone

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Speaker 1: should just relax and enjoy the ride. Right. I was

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Speaker 1: listening to Eric bi Enemy who's the offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: an absolute leader. I love listening to him. And he

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Speaker 1: again he's more eloquent than I'm going to but he

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Speaker 1: basically said, this game is about alphabets, and it's one

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Speaker 1: is the wa it's win, and the other one's the

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Speaker 1: L and the loss. He goes, what we do and

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Speaker 1: why stats don't matter to us. We don't even look

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Speaker 1: is get to w Once that game's over, we go

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Speaker 1: into a brand new game plan plus and it's we

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Speaker 1: may know the defense gonna give up some yards. Who

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Speaker 1: here's what we got to do offensively. He was so

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Speaker 1: good at how he said and basically, stats are for

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Speaker 1: losers and we're just nitpicking on these stats. The Seahawks

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Speaker 1: come up with Tiley stops when they need to. We've

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Speaker 1: had a lot of double digit leads at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day. The only thing that really matters is

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Speaker 1: the W the alphabet and which and that's what. And

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Speaker 1: I'm on the same page with you. And because we

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Speaker 1: saw this defense, they got this this game going the

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Speaker 1: second half. Yes, the offense came out, they scored first,

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Speaker 1: and the defense calls two turnovers. But without those two turnovers,

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Speaker 1: what does the offense look like? Are they really gonna

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Speaker 1: get going? Who knows? But to see that defense perform

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Speaker 1: back into a flat catch with one hand, to see

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Speaker 1: them force a fumble with the quarterbacks scoop it up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're doing the right things at the right time.

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Speaker 1: Are they giving up a bunch of yards? Okay they're

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Speaker 1: five and oh, everybody relaxed, take a chill pill, just

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Speaker 1: and winning if they lose, don't crucify. Yeah, I really

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Speaker 1: remember all the plays in the Minnesota game, but but

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Speaker 1: I really do look at Let's just start putting this

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Speaker 1: then let's look at this defense the next four games,

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Speaker 1: and then the next four and then next four. I

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Speaker 1: just want to see improvement. We've seen improvement the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks. We haven't given up a lot of big plays.

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Speaker 1: We need to continue to play good team defense. And

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Speaker 1: I won't I don't call out names, but there's some

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Speaker 1: underneath some blocks that first drive in Minnesota. Look, if

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Speaker 1: he's my biggest concern going into this game, as well

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Speaker 1: a little bit about what needs to get better, right,

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Speaker 1: But every week is a new week, find a way

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Speaker 1: the next one. And statistics don't matter. Russell Wilson, he's

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Speaker 1: Right now, I think it's all Russell Wilson. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that last drive again. I mean it's been a

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Speaker 1: There's just there's no way to describe him. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is who I thought he is or or

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Speaker 1: what that's probably bad grammar. He is, he's There are

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Speaker 1: some guys that no one likes pressure, no one likes

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Speaker 1: and that's what separates him from Russell Wilson. Russell's body

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Speaker 1: He is so special. He is playing not just great,

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Speaker 1: up next, we'll dive into the Seahawks weeks. I have

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Speaker 1: I'm Michael Bump as he is Paul Moyer, and now

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Speaker 1: we get to talk to Darren Urban from Cardinals dot Com. Darren,

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Speaker 1: you guys? We are doing okay? Now I wanted to

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Speaker 1: away to Paul. Oh, we're starting out well. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I mean Arizon. I don't know if it's a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Man. How are you guys? Hey,

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Speaker 1: the hospital, show me the X rays. You seem to

426
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Speaker 1: be so mentally tough. Where did you get that from

427
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Speaker 1: or has that something that developed over the past couple

428
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Speaker 1: of years. I think it's I think it's developed. I think, uh,

429
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: you know, actually it's interesting and it actually started with

430
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Speaker 1: reading books. Um. I mean, I'm from Montana, so I

431
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: take a lot of pride and being a tough guy,

432
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: and but mentally tough is a whole different ballgame. And

433
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: just you know, having that discipline of um, folks in

434
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: daily on what you want to get done, and trying

435
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: to ignore the negativity and and and being neutral. Rush

436
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: talks about it maybe sometimes being positive, whatever it takes.

437
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: But it really started for me it was reading books.

438
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 1: I read The Slide Edge and um, just you know,

439
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: taking the power of building you know, daily daily actions

440
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: to make something great. And I really believe in that.

441
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 1: And then I took that and went into a rehab

442
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: and so I said, all right, I know if you

443
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 1: do small actions daily, you know you can you can

444
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: do something great. So let's do that with this rehab.

445
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, after the fact, everyone told

446
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: me that it was one of the hardest injuries to

447
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: come back for. But I supplied what I knew, which was,

448
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, to do the little things right, to eat, right,

449
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: to sleep, right, to go and work my tail off

450
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: every day. And then you know, the following year you

451
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: come back, I'll see when we were playing games again,

452
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: and um, I just applied the same thing to the

453
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: second year. So just reading books is really kind of

454
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Speaker 1: how it started, which is kind of funny. You don't

455
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: know where it comes from, but you know you're you're

456
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna one in life left and somehow, So I was

457
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: hopefully ungrateful to apply it. You know, well, I that's

458
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: um I was thinking after the first injury, you know

459
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: that that reading that book and implying all that you're going, okay,

460
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm in. But that second time, that second injury, how

461
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: hard was it to get back on that same process? Uh? Yeah,

462
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: I've been pretty open about this is the second injury

463
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: was extremely tough. I mean, you know, we had worked

464
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Speaker 1: our tape off and I had given so much credit

465
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: to you know, the trainers and the amazing job that

466
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: we had done. And I was feeling fit was the

467
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: funny thing, and it was feeling strong. I thought my

468
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: legs were really strong, and we were playing well and

469
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: having success. And then to go down, I was like,

470
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: it was just like you said, it did. It jeopardize

471
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Speaker 1: everything that I had known, And you know, it threw

472
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: me in a really dark place. And and I've been

473
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: able to talk about that, and you know, I've leaned

474
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: out my family and my friends, and you know, fortunately

475
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: this team is really special and how close we all are,

476
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: and you know, they kind of brought me back out

477
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: of that and they were like, just be who you are,

478
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just be consistent, be the

479
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: daily discipline guy. Be positive, you know what I mean,

480
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: that's who you are. Don't let this change you. Don't

481
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: let to change your career path. You know your story

482
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: has never been per but you know it's your story.

483
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: And so I just had to kind of get through

484
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: those those dark days and then kind of go into

485
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: that mindset again of all right, this is a rehab.

486
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Speaker 1: I know how to do this, right, I've been through

487
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: a really gruesome one. I know how to do this,

488
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: and we just applied the same mindset, and here we are.

489
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Speaker 1: You're later, and good things happen when you when you

490
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: just devote yourself to daily disciplines. You've got some motivational

491
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: speaking aspirations down the road. You're you're gonna be hired

492
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: because you got you got a great story and your

493
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: message is really good. Yeah, I mean, I just I

494
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: just you know, it's funny everyone gets injured, you know NFL.

495
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: I think it's one hundred percent injury rate, and so

496
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: it's surprising that we don't, you know, have a better

497
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Speaker 1: grasp of mentally how to get back from these and

498
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Speaker 1: um so I just hope I said to mind, whether

499
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: it's a senior in high school that just towards ACL

500
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, any guy on the team that they can

501
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: look to me and say, how did you do this?

502
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: And and I just hope that they can believe in

503
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: themselves and their mind is so powerful to get them back.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. Will. Now you've played on some pretty successful teams.

505
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: You mentioned that UB team that made it to the

506
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Final four. Now you're on a team that is five

507
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: and oh first time in franchise history for the Seahawks.

508
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: What is the confidence and swag like with this team

509
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: right now? Do you gotta step on the field and

510
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: just know you're gonna get it done? What's it like?

511
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: I think you know there is some confidence, but you know,

512
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: anyone that's been on a successful team knows that it

513
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: comes down to the preparation. I think this team, you know,

514
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: every week feels like we have something to prove, and

515
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's that chip on that shoulder that

516
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: that makes us hungry and wants us to show that

517
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: we can beat anyone. And so there's really no overlooking

518
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: what we have and there is confidence and what we're

519
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: able to do. But every week prepare like we have

520
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: to play our best and we have to show it

521
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Well, you've got a couple of former players

522
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: that are playing really good football right now over at Arizona.

523
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,479
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker is one of them easy specials. Well, what

524
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: can you say about this guy? Do you know their

525
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: weakness as well? Are you weak to be able to

526
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: exploit them? There? Tell me they're not as good as

527
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: they look last week on film. No, they're special players

528
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: for sure. I think I think you guys who are

529
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: fans against you to know how special they can be.

530
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: And um, it'll be a fun reading and I think

531
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: all all Husky fans will be watching this one. We

532
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: got bumped at prime time, so it'll be good to

533
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: reunite with those guys. And you know they present a

534
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: really good challenge. But um, you know, like I said,

535
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: I have confidence in the guys that we have on

536
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: our side, and um, the preparation is going to be

537
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: a separation and um you know we'll just have to

538
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: go out next seat on Sunday. Well, we appreciate you

539
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 1: taking time, man, go do your thing six and oh

540
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: here you come, have a good night and get some arrested.

541
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: I got two touchdowns for you this week. Okay, make

542
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: it happen. I love it all right, I love all right, man,

543
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: I have a going all right. Well, thanks, all right,

544
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: we got you covered all things Seahawks on the coming

545
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: up next, we talked to John Clayton, the professor right

546
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: here on Hawks Live, Hawks Slide every Thursday from seven

547
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on seven ten ESPNC. Oh yeah,

548
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: we got that funk going Paul seven ten ESPN every

549
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: Thursday at seven pm. And when you hear the funk plan,

550
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: you know we're talking to John Clayton. John, how you doing? Man? Good?

551
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Is this not the worst football game you've ever seen?

552
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: I mean, this is so bad. I mean I had

553
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: to turn on the election debate just because I mean,

554
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: this is so bad. How can Daniel Jones run eighty

555
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: yards and trip up at the ten yard line? That's incredible.

556
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: He's never ran that far into his life, John, I mean,

557
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: a forty yard dash was foreign to the most quarterbacks,

558
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: at especially him. But it did look like all of

559
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: a sudden he went, this is the farthest I've ever

560
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: run before, and his leg said I'm out. I mean,

561
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: but as many interceptions and turnovers as he's had, he's

562
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: had to chase some plays down at certain points where

563
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: we had to run a certain amount. So since we're

564
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: talking about this game, yeah, man, Jalen Hurst, I mean

565
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: they bring him in, my guess is not to be

566
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: a backup forever. I mean, at some point whence they

567
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: gotta make a move, don't they know? They don't. I mean,

568
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: this was a stupid decision. It was a stupid decision

569
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: by the Green Bay Packers to take Jordan Love and

570
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: trade up for him. When you have Aaron Rodgers, a

571
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback and who wanted to be there

572
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: for at least four more years, and now because of

573
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, you have to get rid of him in

574
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: two I mean here, this is a team and you

575
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: saw him twice last year that is weak and wide receiver.

576
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: They need position players. They're the oldest roster in football.

577
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: And they take a quarterback in the second round who's

578
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: not a position player in the deepest second round in

579
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: NFL history. Absolutely stupid. I mean it's like, okay, so

580
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Tayson Hill goes with New Orleans. They made the mistake

581
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: of paying him ten million dollars a year, but he

582
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: was undrafted. You take away a position player who could

583
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: do really well. I mean, you know, it could have

584
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: been a DK medcalf, you name it, and they take

585
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: him when they have a you know, a quarterback making

586
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars a year. Stupid. Well, you know,

587
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: John did that kind of hurts me because every year

588
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: I was playing, they drafted a safety and you kept

589
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: saying that's a good move, that's a good move. I

590
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: say that, No you didn't. But okay, well yeah I did.

591
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: See Pa could have told you. I talked to two

592
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: times a week and I asked him every week, is

593
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: this Kelly Steve Kelly used to do it? I asked John,

594
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: every week, is this the week that Jalen Hurts gets

595
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: a show? You shoots me down every week? He shoots

596
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: me down. Every week he shot me down. They normally

597
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: this shoot me down that hard. But you know what

598
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: he says, It was really your question, my question. He

599
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: knew it, I said you because you knew back then, Paul,

600
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: when I was covering. It's like they were good safeties.

601
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: There you go. John, It's like, okay, so gee, should

602
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks bring back Earl Thomas and have him come in. No,

603
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: they've got good safeties. You had good safeties. You were

604
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: a good safety. Everybody was a good safety back then.

605
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I like John, I'm keeping We're gonna keep you, John.

606
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate John. When do you think we're going

607
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: to see snacks Harrison? I get to feeling this week.

608
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean, unless there's some complications, you know, as far

609
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: as it's conditioning and all that stuff. You know, they

610
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: need run stoppers because and again it's not like you're

611
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of him. I don't know

612
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be ten plays, fifteen plays, but they

613
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: need him on the roster this week because you know,

614
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: you're in a period right now where four of the

615
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: next five teams that you're facing can really run the football.

616
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, I was looking at some stats

617
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: tonight and I'm amazed how Cliff Kingsbury has changed since

618
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: coming in, you know, because he was running you know, empty,

619
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: he was running you know, four receivers, five receivers when

620
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 1: he came in, and then he realized, no, this isn't working.

621
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: I can't totally do my air raid offense. And he

622
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: went to more two tight ends. And they're running a

623
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: lot of two tight end sets as you see in

624
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: this entire division. And so no, I think that clean

625
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: the end. You need to run stopper to help out

626
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: take a little pressure off for Jarran read take a

627
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: lot of pressureut of Punafford stop the run Kingsbarry still

628
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: doesn't wear a sock though, so I just can't really. Yeah,

629
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: he's he's he's that GQ. John, let me ask you

630
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: about this defense, and I don't think he shoes is

631
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: what you get? Yeah, well he probably wears a new

632
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: fresh pair every every week. He can afford it. John

633
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: had been asked us a bunch in or have been told,

634
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, the Seas need to improve their defense. They

635
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: got to bring some people in. But John, you look

636
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: at the talent on this defense. You know in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: you can make a case. You know, they're potentially four

638
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Speaker 1: Pro bowlers. You could say the linebacker. I mean, Kj's

639
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: playing unbelievable. Bobby obviously has been in the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: A bunch d line you got read you know, Mayo,

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Speaker 1: I think there's some players there. Do they need to

642
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: improve on the on players? What do you think it is? Well,

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00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: what it comes down to is execution, and I think

644
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: what ends up happening. You know, team went five and no.

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00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman said this on Sunday during the broadcast, is

646
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Speaker 1: that don't judge things this year by yards allowed. Judge

647
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: it by key stops and wins. This team make key

648
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: stops and wins or five and oh five and oh

649
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: and non division games. But four of the five quarterbacks

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00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: they faced are pretty good quarterbacks. I mean quarterbacks that

651
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: are four thousand yard quarterbacks and are going to get yards.

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Speaker 1: And if they're going to be behind by double digits

653
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: in the second half, there are going to put up yards.

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00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: And so don't judge the yards, judge the play. And

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00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: certainly they need to tighten things up. I mean Shaquille

656
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Griffin has tightened things up in his last two games

657
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Speaker 1: or actually last three games. That's good. This is going

658
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: to be a big challenge now to Quentin Dunbar because

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00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: mostly everything they do in Arizona with the air raid

660
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: offense is stroke to the left to DeAndre Hopkins that

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00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: he needs to stop him. And so you look at

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00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: that and say, okay, and now, really in for the

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00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: next five games they're facing running type of offenses. And

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Speaker 1: now it's a matter that's been a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a strength of the team except for the Minnesota game.

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Speaker 1: So justighten things up and let Russ win and just

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00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: try to cut the number of points allowed. So do

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Speaker 1: you do you think the Seahawks stand pat Do you

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Speaker 1: think they don't make a trade the rest up until

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Speaker 1: a trade. I wouldn't discount that, but I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they've standard pat because think about what

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00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: they've done quietly and quietly. What they've done is really good, okay,

673
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: because they were able to talk four players into coming

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Speaker 1: in to help the defense and get them on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. Think about this, Paul, and again it's like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you were undrafted, so you know, Michael was undrafted.

677
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: You didn't make a lot of money unfortunately during your career,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the early years of your contract. But they

679
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: talked Damon Harrison, who was making nine million dollars a

680
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: year as a defensive tackle, into taking a practice squad.

681
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: They talked Michael Kendricks, who at one time I was

682
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Speaker 1: making seven million dollars a year into taking a practice

683
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Speaker 1: squad spot. You know, Ray Ray Armstrong, who didn't make

684
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Speaker 1: a lot of money, is a good special teams player,

685
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: practice squad. Damarious Randall, a former first round pick, you

686
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: know they him for the practice squad and now he's

687
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: on the active roster making the minimum salary. That's adding

688
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: four players on defense, not a big money, keeps you

689
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: well under the cap, gives you flexibility, but gives you

690
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: more talent. Schneider is amazing, he really is. John. We

691
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: saw the Cardinals on Monday dominate the Dallas Cowboys. Colin

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00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Murray didn't play great, but they beat him thirty eight

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Speaker 1: to ten. Are the Cardinals that good? Are Are the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys that bad? Cowboys are that bad? I mean, Cardinals

695
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: are good, but they're not as good as you know,

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Speaker 1: even I think people think because you think about the idea.

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00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: They're four and two and they lost the two games

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00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: they should have won, you know, because you know Carolina

699
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: is not good on defense. They lost that game. Detroit's terrible.

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00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: They lost that game, and it was a home game,

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00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: and so that was a great win at the beginning

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00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: of the season against the forty nine ers, certainly to

703
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: blow out a bad Dallas. But I think, just like

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00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: we saw with the Rams, they somewhat are a byproduct

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00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: of the easy starting schedule that they have because they

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00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: could have been and oh if they won Detroit and

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Speaker 1: Carolina and you got inconsistent throwing by Kyler Murray. I

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00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: mean they are a good run team. They're a little

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00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: bit better on the offensive line. Defensively, they you know,

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00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: they're okay. I mean they're better that I think people

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00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: thought they were going to be. But again, how much

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00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: of that is the talent that they faced? All Right, John,

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Speaker 1: My favorite time of this segment. What question? Again, this

714
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: is open segment here for you. What question have you

715
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: not been asked this week that you've been wanting to

716
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: talk about? Well, what's going on with Pete Carroll? As

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00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: far as I'm not talking about his knee surgery or

718
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: anything like that, it was just a scope and all

719
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: that stuff, But what about his future? And it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, what I haven't been asked about It is like,

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Speaker 1: where are they on a contract extension? And what I'm

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00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: and envisioning is that somehow, some way, because I know

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: they've been talking, and I would anticipate he's going to

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00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: get a two or three year contract extension because it's needed.

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00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to coach into his seventies. He

726
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: wants to hear. I'm bringing up Marv Levy and how

727
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: he coached into his seventies. You know Nick Saban. I mean,

728
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: he's going to probably will his way to coach. There

729
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: was one hundred and fifteen because that's just Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, Pete Carroll, I think you

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00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: know sometime reasonably soon before the end of the season's

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00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: going to contract ascension, but nobody's asking me about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for bringing out another great segment. I love

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Speaker 1: this part, and I really do. John. What is the

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Speaker 1: likelihood of this team going six and oh, maybe let's

736
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: go seven and oh on the season. I think it's

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00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: pretty good because you know, the tough I think the

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Speaker 1: tougher of the two matchup. And I'm not saying this

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Speaker 1: lightly because of Arizona because against a road game with

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Speaker 1: I don't know hardly anybody in a stadium, but you know,

741
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: and it's Arizona is a better I mean, they're's still

742
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: one of the most improved teams in football. The RAM

743
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: games still going to be difficult. But what this team

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00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: has to do now and I think they have the

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00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: ability to do it. Unfortunately, I don't think there doesn't

746
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: look as though Jamal Adams, who didn't practice today and yesterday,

747
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: is going to be there. And they needed Jamal Adams

748
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: in a game against the mobile quarterback like Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: But they also need him in a game where Sean

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00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: McVeigh is so good at calling the run plays, and

751
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: also they need him for San Francisco which is the

752
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: next week, and Kyle Shanahan's so good at calling the

753
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: run plays that they need somebody to stop those motion

754
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: running offensive teams. And so I just get the feeling

755
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: that the tough game's gonna be Buffalo because you got

756
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: two division games, it's gonna take a lot out of them.

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00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an early game in Buffalo, and that

758
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: can be tough. I say, it's an early game in Buffalo,

759
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: but then hey, I thought the Seahawks is gonna play

760
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: at one o'clock on Sunday, and now they're playing Sunday night,

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00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: So who knows. I bet you the Seahawks have their

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00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: first home game this week. They're gonna have more fans

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00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: in the stand than the Arizona Cardinals could be could be,

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00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: even though it's not gonna make a lot of noise.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well, John, we appreciate you taking time out

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Speaker 1: your day and as always, keep it funky. See you

767
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: next time. You got to all right, Thanks John, Thanks

768
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: all right, things just went from bad to worse in Dallas.

769
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Unnamed player storing their coach and staff under the bus

770
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: for their two and four start. Who looks worse? Paul

771
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Moore and I have both played and coach will give

772
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: you our thoughts and much more. Next on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live every Thursday from seven and nine, live on

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00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: Michael Bumpis and Paul Moyer. Hawks Live every Thursday at

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Speaker 1: seven pm on seven ten ESPN. You will find me myself,

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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpas and my guy Paul Moyer. Yo. Talking at talk. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is what we do, Paul, we do. We talked

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00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: that talk. Yes. Do we walk that walk? I do?

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Speaker 1: You can't vouch for me? Hey, goot a voucher? Well

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00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I can't vouch for it. But I

782
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: don't see you during the day. We talked during the day. Yeah,

783
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: but I don't see so I don't get to actually

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00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: see you. Walks that bad segment back start to the

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00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: segment on My Shark Man. No worries, but we are

786
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: what we are going to talk about these Dallas cowboys.

787
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Somebody said something about a coach. They're not prepared. They

788
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: leaked a story. Now was big news, and we have

789
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: an issue with this. I feel like we're on the

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00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: same page when it comes to this topic. Yeah, and

791
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: so I put a little context to this. NFL Networks

792
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: Jane Slater said the team's coaching or two players unnamed

793
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: sources here, and again I'm okay with that. I'm sure

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00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: that there were two players that said it said that

795
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: the team's coaching staff is totally unprepared. They don't teach.

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00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: The unnamed player told the Slater unnamed player nine players

797
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: they don't have any sense of adjusting on the fly.

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00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: It became a story. And the reason why I'm struggling

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Speaker 1: with this is I'm okay with an unnamed source. I

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00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: think that's part of the media. They need to go

801
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: find thing. But it's part of what Also the issue

802
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: of the media is you got to put more context

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00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: to this. What was it a starter? Look, we have

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00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: fifty three players in a sixteen player practice squad group now,

805
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: so we're talking sixty nine players. Are they disgruntled? Were

806
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: they just mad last week after the game because they

807
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 1: look bad? I mean, in meantime, are you talking about

808
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: the offense. You're talking about the defense, talking about the

809
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: head coach. Who are we talking about here? The offense

810
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: was the number one offense in the NFL going into

811
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: last week. Now they lost their Dak Prescott. They put

812
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: in Andy Dalton. He didn't look good. They've got they're

813
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: beat up on the offensive line. They don't make adjustments

814
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: on the fly. I'm gonna ask you, Michael, how many

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Speaker 1: coaches have you been around and the seven to eleven

816
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: minutes that you have in halftime, which, by the way,

817
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: you got to get in there at halftime. Sometimes you're hurt,

818
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: you get ice, you get some things, You get maybe

819
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: some orange, you get some fluids in you. Some guy's

820
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: got to go to the restroom. You talk amongst yourselves,

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Speaker 1: The coaches talk amongst itself. They walk out and you

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00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 1: got maybe two minutes. How many coaches have you known

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Speaker 1: that were unbelievable at changing up your whole system at

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Speaker 1: halftime and coaching on the fly. Not very many. I

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00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: think most of the adjustments have been between amongst the coaches.

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00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: They've got so many ideas. When they get to the players,

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00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, I'm gonna hit them with a B

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Speaker 1: and c I'm not going to give them the whole

829
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: conversation we just had. I'm just gonna call a couple

830
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: of plays and set guys up. And the issue I

831
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: have with it is who is this player? And are

832
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: you working as hard as these coaches? Are you staying

833
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: out the facility until two am in the morning, not

834
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: seeing your family? Even if they aren't the greatest coaches.

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Speaker 1: I would like to think an organization, like any organization

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, has coaches who are being held accountable

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Speaker 1: and who are at least given the perception that they're

838
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: working hard. I understand players get angry, they don't like

839
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: the play calling. They would like guys to be handled

840
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: differently in certain situations, But what are you doing to

841
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: help the calls? That's what kind of gets me. Yeah,

842
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: it's it's rarely the scheme. Some of the best coaches

843
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: I've had have coming at halftime. Pete Carroll does was

844
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: actually and we talked about what was the change. He

845
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: talked about it in its press conference. He was very calm.

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00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: He just said, look, what we're doing is fine. You know,

847
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: we've got to execute it better. Sometimes it's just look,

848
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay the course. We got to execute better.

849
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna do that way. We're gonna speed up the

850
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: tempo on offense. On defense, Hey, here's what we're gonna do.

851
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna play more press. We're gonna make a little

852
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: subtle changes. But I got two minutes, maybe three minutes.

853
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: You're right, I come down at halftime. When when I

854
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: was coaching, we would all huddle together as coaches as

855
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: a group, and then the head coach would say, all right,

856
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: you know whatever was said. Sometimes he would have something

857
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: to say. Sometimes, depending on the situation, is maybe the

858
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: coordinators talked amongst each other on how we're gonna win

859
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: the game. Usually we split up immediately. Defensive coaches talked immediately,

860
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: all right, do we keep moving on this game plan?

861
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: Do we need to make some subtle changes along the way. Great.

862
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: Then either the coordinator brought the whole defense together at offense,

863
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: or we broke up into our individual groups and say, hey, guys,

864
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: we're good. We gotta do this a little better. By

865
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: the way, here's what they're doing with this formation today.

866
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: You know, they actually get to see it now on

867
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: iPads or surfaces. It's that game's changed a little bit.

868
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: But I can there's just not enough time to go.

869
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: All right, guys, remember that game plan we just spent

870
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: the last four days on and I got in at

871
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: six am and I got home at one am. Yeah,

872
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: it's out. We're actually gonna go from a three four

873
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: defense to a bear front that we've never run before.

874
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: This is gonna work. Great, let me draw. We've never

875
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: practiced this, but you're going to execute it. If you

876
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: are going to execute it? All right? So now now

877
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: we're players. Yes, now you're Bobby Wagner, I'm Russell Wilson.

878
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: Can I be Russell? Yeah? Well you gotta make more

879
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: money going Okay, Okay, I'll pretend like I'm Russell Wilson.

880
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: How do we handle this situation? If it's not us

881
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: leaking this story, which I doubt players of that caliber

882
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: leaked that story. Do we find out who it is?

883
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: Do we call them out? Like what's going on in

884
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: that locker room? Are we the Seahawks? If we're the Seahawks? Okay,

885
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: because I was thinking Cowboys originally with the Seahawks, because

886
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I think they've they've lost their leader, and

887
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, you know, I'm going

888
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: to cut you off, but you're they lost their leader. Yeah,

889
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: in this organization, there's a few of them. Yes, I

890
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: can't think of another one. I agree because I don't

891
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: think Ezeki Eliot's the leader or a leader. Um. And

892
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: his body language has been bad this year, you know. Um,

893
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: there's no question question that Dak Prescott's a leader here.

894
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: You're right. I think there's a bunch And if it

895
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: was the Seahawks and if Russell Wilson's there and all

896
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden they said that that would be addressed

897
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: as the team say, and they always say, look, protect

898
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: the team. You know. The one thing that's great about

899
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, I'll go into the draft. Nobody's got anything

900
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks who they're gonna draft. It is it's

901
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: a written rule. They talk about it. What's said, it's

902
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: said in here. We don't leak that out to the

903
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: rest of the world. That family business. You remember when

904
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: some of that stuff got leaked with Richard Sherman and yeah,

905
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: you know Earl and all that stuff, and it got

906
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: leaked at it really that hurt I think Pete Carroll,

907
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: I think it hurts some of the team players. And

908
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: guess what, they're not here anymore. You know that you're

909
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: you're gone. And I think they've got a group of

910
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: guys that wouldn't happen and if it, if it did,

911
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 1: it would be addressed and it would be shut down

912
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: immediately like that. In't that's not true. That is a

913
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: telltale sign of a dysfunctional organization. When I used to

914
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: go and spend an eight at my friend's house, my

915
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: mom let me go out. She go, Look what happens

916
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: in this house stays in this house. This is family business.

917
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: You don't go out on the streets and air your

918
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: dirty laundry and tell everybody what's going on. You know

919
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: who did that, The bad kids who had stuff going

920
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: on their house and didn't understand that. So that's what

921
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm seeing when I look at that Dallas organization, I'm like,

922
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: this is all messed up. Dak hasn't been there for

923
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: a week or so. Jerry's uptop trying to control his head,

924
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: coach it. But the messed up artist. It doesn't surprise

925
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: me that this is happening with a cowboys. Well, I

926
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: also think it. It's why it's so important to get

927
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: guys and do your due diligence when you draft guys,

928
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: how do they handle adversity? You know, you have an adversity.

929
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean what comes out of you when it's shaken. Now,

930
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: whatever you put inside you, it comes back out right.

931
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: So you've got to have leaders. The Seahawks have a

932
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: lot of leaders and a skin. I think it's why

933
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: they win. It's not an accent they win these close games.

934
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: It's not an accent that the offense was horrible last

935
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: week and the final drive they go down and score

936
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: the winning touchdown. It's not a surprise. Okay, So who

937
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: looks worse? The players or the reporter that leaked this

938
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: because that reporter is affiliated with this organization. Well, I

939
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: think the player does. I would love to question that

940
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: reporter and say, hey, I'm not saying that the source

941
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: wasn't there. It's one player. You talk about one player.

942
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Who's that player? And you don't have to give me

943
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: the name? Is it a starter? Is it truly a

944
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: credible person? And what was the what's the emotion? But

945
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: I need more color behind that to understand. Because it

946
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: became a national story. Now McCarthy's got to address it.

947
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: I thought he could address it a little bit harder

948
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: on that set. She's not accurate, not true. I don't

949
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: know who that player is. Talk to the other players

950
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: on this, and if more players come out, then guess what.

951
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: Jarry's got to make a change because you got a

952
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: problem with Leadershipcarthy comes us as we have to be

953
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: men about this situation. He should have just came out

954
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: and said, look, if you feel a certain way, just

955
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: address it, get into the locker room, talk to me.

956
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: Let's keep this in house. You don't go to the media.

957
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: We're the media. You're giving us stuff to talk about.

958
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: We're talking about Dallas Cowboys and the Hawks are playing

959
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals on Sunday Night football, and you guys gave

960
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: us a whole segment to talk to talk about, like,

961
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: come on, Dallas, do better. I honestly though, would have

962
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: left for a reporter to say, are you sure you

963
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: want to say that? Do you really believe that? Is

964
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: that how you feel or is that how you think? Yeah,

965
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: and there's two different things that your motion. Is that

966
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: truly what you believe? And that as a report, I

967
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: think you gotta pull that out that so both of

968
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: them look bad to me, it's all bad in Dallas. Well,

969
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: coming up next is this Finally the year Peak her

970
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: wins Coach of the Year Paul Moyer and I will

971
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: let you know why. He is far in a way,

972
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: the most deserving and if he doesn't win, it's criminal.

973
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: That's around the corner. On Hawks Live. Hawks Slide every

974
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Thursday from seven to nine, live on air on seven

975
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: ESPN Shadow Michael bump Is Paul Moyer Hawks Live every Thursday. Paul,

976
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: give you a hundred bucks. I'll give you a one

977
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: hundred bucks if you tell me whose song that is?

978
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Um that was? I just can't because we're talking about

979
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: de Sean Jackson right now. It looks like he just

980
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: blew his knee air. I'll give you. I can't do both.

981
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: We don't have enough time for me through both. I'll

982
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: give you. Start playing the music, the bump coming back in. Okay,

983
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: you're not gonna know any of it. I'm not. No,

984
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into the eighties and nineties. No, but

985
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: I I know the guys putting the music out, so

986
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna set me up. They're gonna they're gonna valey,

987
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: I'll serve. Look here the host, it's the Michael Bumpus

988
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: and Paul Moyer. No, this is you know how football works.

989
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: It takes eleven Yeah, okay, right here, yeah, it takes

990
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: three including Nasatov. All right, let's talk about these Seahawks

991
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: and specifically Pete Carroll. This guy has never won Coach

992
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: of the Year, which I feel like it's crazy. I'm

993
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: looking at his numbers. Had two seasons with seven to nine. Okay,

994
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: we get that. Understand the quarterback situation after that. Eleven wins,

995
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: thirteen wins, twelve, ten, ten nine and down year ten

996
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: eleven five. Thus far, he's probably gonna win I would say,

997
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: over ten games guaranteed this year. Why hasn't this guy

998
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: gotten any love? Well, this is really frustrated to me.

999
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: And I was listening to a show and the reason

1000
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: why I got frustrated is it was their criteria, and

1001
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: so they threw out they had Vrabel was their number

1002
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: one guy. I'm okay with that. They had Naggie, they

1003
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: had Tomlin. I was okay with Tomlin too. Again, I

1004
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: think they're having a good year. Yeah, they threw out

1005
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: the reason why they had Pete Carroll fifth. And the

1006
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: reason why they had Pete Carroll fifth was the other

1007
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: teams weren't expected to win as many games as they

1008
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: had won this year, and I'm like, well, so that's

1009
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: the criteria. It's the criteria is okay, if you weren't

1010
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: expected to make the playoffs or you don't expected to

1011
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: win ten games, but you exceeded that, then now you

1012
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: can be the coach of the Year. So the Seahawks

1013
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: are undefeated, undefeated? Did anybody think the Seacs would be undefeated?

1014
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: Not only are they undefeated five and oh for the

1015
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,479
Speaker 1: first time in franchise history. He's doing something here that's

1016
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: never been done yet. He's on the outside of the

1017
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: bubble looking in, and he's the winning most He's the

1018
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: most winning coach since Russell Wilson's coming, and maybe Belichick's

1019
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: got him. They're they're one, two or three whatever, certainly

1020
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: the most consist distant along with Belichick along the way.

1021
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: At one point, I think, you know Green Bay was

1022
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: there too, but you know they got a new coach.

1023
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: So I really don't get the criteria. To me, it's

1024
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: who is the best coach that year, not I have

1025
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: the best team? Okay, well, okay, I have the best team.

1026
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: I go fifteen and one. I don't get to get

1027
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: the mvper Coach of the year. Look, John Schneider's another one.

1028
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: How in the world do you take a guy? And

1029
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: I even think maybe there's even more disservice to John Schneider.

1030
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: Do you remember when he first got here, the amount

1031
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: of trades he made, transactions? It was insane. They made

1032
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They put together a team out of nothing.

1033
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, they end up changing, you know, Matt hasseback,

1034
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: they bring in a new quarterback. They draft one of

1035
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: the great draft you know, really two, twelve, eleven, thirteen

1036
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: were amazing drafts. They get Russell Wilson. He's never been

1037
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: the end or the GM of the year. I just

1038
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what it takes. It's really frustrating to me.

1039
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: And at the same time, you know, I hate that stuff.

1040
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: I hate the MVP. Yeah, it's it's a team game. No,

1041
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: I hate it. It's just and by the way, there

1042
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: hasn't been an MVP of the league win a Super

1043
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: Bowl going back to two thousand or so. Maybe we

1044
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: don't want Russell, But at the same time, Russell has

1045
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: a way of breaking moles, breaking history. He's one of

1046
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: those who says, oh no, I'm gonna win the MVP,

1047
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna win the Super Bowl, and I'm also

1048
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: gonna be an owner, and I'm gonna be the President

1049
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: of the United States. Russell Wilson, if he says he's

1050
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: going to the moon by twenty twenty two, I'm just

1051
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna be like, all right, I'm buying, where do I invest?

1052
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: I want to send Russell to the moon. Pete Carroll.

1053
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has changed the identity of this team. Just

1054
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: this year. They were a run first team. They were

1055
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: double tight. We're gonna run the football or running backs

1056
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 1: and get the ball twenty five thirty times. The fact

1057
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: that a sixty nine year old man is able to say, Okay,

1058
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna switch it up this year all I'm gonna

1059
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: allow my office the coordinate to switch it up. I'm

1060
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: gonna give my quarterback the keys to the car finally,

1061
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: without the GPS, without the tracker on him, Gonna let

1062
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: him go drive the whip. You can get back by

1063
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: two am. So long is this all good? He has

1064
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: reinvented himself, and yet he's not being talked about in

1065
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: the Coach of the Year And it's just disrespectful. But

1066
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm so used to being disrespected in the Northwest. I

1067
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: mean that's just that's part of being in the Northwest

1068
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: is that people kind of ignore you. They look over here,

1069
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: they say, well, there's a guy over here who's doing this.

1070
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: There's a god over there who's doing that. There's no

1071
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: way that there's a Coach of the Year in Seattle.

1072
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: And it's frustrating at times, but I also think that

1073
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: being overlooked it's kind of what drives this team as well.

1074
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: It's that you look in the locker room and now

1075
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: they have something to kind of bond with. We're underdogs.

1076
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: No one believes them this. They think we're frogs. We're

1077
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: five and no, no one believes in them. So I

1078
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: am frustrated, but I'm all I also embrace it and say,

1079
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: all right, so Pete, you know, if we ask that

1080
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: question he got, I don't even think about it, of course,

1081
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: But do you think it bothers him? I mean it's successful.

1082
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean it is, really and I think maybe even

1083
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: part of it because it's a popularity vote to an extent.

1084
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Bruce arians won it twice. Come on goodness, Grace.

1085
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's when it starts to become a joke

1086
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: along the way. But I'm going okay, I also think

1087
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: some of it. I talk with people, they think for

1088
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: some reason I don't like Pete because of his USC days,

1089
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: blaming you know, the whole Bush thing on him. I mean, like,

1090
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: you don't even know this guy. I mean, he's he's

1091
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: a good guy. I mean, look what he's done. He's

1092
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, a players coach, Like nobody has ever really

1093
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: been that USC. That's that's a horrible argument for people players.

1094
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: But I believe, I believe because it's a media thing, right, Yeah,

1095
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: I truly believe they do. Yeah, but players do things

1096
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: that coaches don't know about. There's no I mean, I mean,

1097
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: they can't kill us, they can't bush his parents who

1098
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: are down in San Diego. Yes, I'm like, look, don't

1099
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I think every head coach, the good ones,

1100
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: they've got their ear out there, they've got their people knowing,

1101
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: and they're reporting back. But there's some things that I

1102
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: have no control over that And even if I knew

1103
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: about it, what am I gonna do about it? You know,

1104
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: it's them talking to an agent. I mean that was great,

1105
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: but for that to hang over Pete this long, and

1106
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: I have friends down to California talk negative about Pete

1107
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: and I go, guy's a great guy. I could just

1108
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: listen to him. I mean, you'd love to hang out

1109
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: with them, be so motivational. So all right, real quick,

1110
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: who do you think? Give me the top three head

1111
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: coach MVPs Pete Carroll, YEP, Tomline and all three of

1112
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: them are undefeated. Yeah, and rightfully so, because nobody thought

1113
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: those three teams were gonna be undefeated right now, Tennessee, No, No, Pittsburgh.

1114
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: I hold a soft spot in my Hartford Pittsburgh because

1115
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: they always see might they find a way to get

1116
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: it done. With Ben Roethlisberg, and coming off the injury

1117
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: that he had, he's a different quarterback. He's not launching

1118
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: it down the field fifty yards like he used to.

1119
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: But Ben Roethlisberger is a winner. I don't care what

1120
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: his arm, what type of condition is in. He's gonna

1121
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: find a way to get it done. And you match

1122
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: it up with Tomlin. So I give them hope every

1123
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: single year. But Variabel is the one when he when

1124
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: he called that um attentional, I know he threw it

1125
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: on the rugs. He didn't do it twelve men on

1126
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: the field to stop the clock. Now he knows where

1127
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: come on. Now. Look, he was a Belichick when he's

1128
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: a jeer. But when I watched Hard Knocks when he

1129
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: was at Houston and he was a linebacker coach, he

1130
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: wasn't even a defensive coordinator, and I watched how he

1131
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: handled the linebackers, I went, oh, that is a leader.

1132
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't play, he knew, he just knew

1133
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: the right words. He didn't treat everybody equal but fairly. Um,

1134
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: that's a leader. And I knew he was gonna be

1135
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: a really good head coach. And he's proven that. Have

1136
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: you seen him now? He's still in the drills. He's

1137
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: still got pads on his chest fitting guys up. That's

1138
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: a dude. I would play. Well, what did you call this?

1139
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: What do you call it? It's a pad? Okay what

1140
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: he called it? Then, Paul, come on, educate me, tell

1141
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: me something. Messl with me. All right, Hey, it's two

1142
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: a time down in Miami. Should a team that has

1143
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: won two straight by a score sixty seven to seventeen

1144
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: be making a change at QB. I'll get Paul's thoughts

1145
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: as we go around the NFL. Coming up next on

1146
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: Hawk Slide. Hawks Slide every Thursday from seven to nine

1147
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: live on air on seven ten ESPN every Thursday. You

1148
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: will catch me myself, Michael Bumps, and my god Paul

1149
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: Moyer every Thursday, seven pm, seventeen ESPN. And you know what, Yeah,

1150
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: we're going around the NFL since my favorite time. And

1151
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: I love what the Miami Dolphins are doing. This is

1152
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: what the people are here to see. They don't want

1153
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: to see Fitzpatrick. What they don't want to see the beard.

1154
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: They want to see the guy who stepped into the

1155
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: National Championship Game and toss him down times to win

1156
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: it for him to I'm not gonna say his last name.

1157
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say his full name because I'm gonna

1158
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: jack it up. So it's ta I like this move.

1159
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: This is the franchise. He has one of the highest

1160
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: selling jerseys in the game right now. People want to

1161
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: see him go to work. Let him work. What do

1162
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: you think? So you're talking as a fan. I get

1163
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: that you're a fan. You want to buy his jersey?

1164
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: You just said it. No, I just said, did I

1165
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: say I want to buy his jersey? I said the

1166
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: people want to see, right, But you're calling from people,

1167
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: but you're coming from I don't I don't cheer for

1168
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, but you come, this is the fans, this

1169
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: is the future. Let him go now, let him run.

1170
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: You want to win a division, forget the division. Don't

1171
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: make me look here, here's my only thing, My only

1172
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: thing is and look early on, I'm like, why, why,

1173
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you play to him? I mean, he's your guy,

1174
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: He's the future. I've never been really a Fickpatrick fan.

1175
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: But you just won your last two games, buy a

1176
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: combined score of sixty seven to seventeen. Played the Seahawks

1177
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: pretty tough. Yeah, I mean they did. I mean he

1178
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: moved to football, had big numbers again against Seahawks. You're

1179
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: in a playoff hunt now, and now during a bye

1180
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: week two, he took two snaps. He scrambled on one.

1181
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, didn't I what he threw for. It's just

1182
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: I've never seen a team in a playoff hunt. After

1183
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: two big wins, they got some momentum. They're feeling good

1184
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: about themselves, other than the forty nine ers when Alex

1185
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: Smith got hurt and Kaepernick came in. But the difference

1186
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: was Kaepernick played and Alex Smith never got his job back.

1187
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: Even though they were six and two, they were six

1188
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: and two and they bitched Alex Smith and everybody was like, oh,

1189
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: it's but you saw that, you know, Cap had that

1190
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: potential to be better this one. I'm just going you

1191
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback. He's not played it down. Tell you.

1192
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Because we're talking about practice practice.

1193
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: He's bawling in practice. He's doing something in practice talk.

1194
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: We're talking about talking. He's doing something in practice to

1195
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: where Flores is like, you know what, coach, we gotta

1196
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: let this guy go. So look, if you go with

1197
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, same thing. They bench Hurst going into the

1198
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: second half that they were, you know, had a phenomenal year.

1199
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: You get a gut feeling. And I think that's probably

1200
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: what Flores same thing. He's got a gut feeling. He

1201
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: knows his team gotta go with. It's just weird. They're

1202
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: in a playoff hunt, they're playing good football. They can

1203
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: always go back to Fitzpatrick if they need to. I

1204
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: guess y um, and I think the locker room is

1205
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: probably fine with it. But I really would be curious

1206
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: about the locker room, you know, saying hey, we want

1207
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: a chance to win, they must believe that two is ready.

1208
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: And that's what we don't know. It's just this was

1209
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: the one of the weirdest benchings coming off two big wins,

1210
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: and he's playing the best of it. His QPR rating

1211
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: it's seventh in the league. Yeah, but he's he got

1212
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: throwing interception. Eventually, I get it. Okay, So now sixth

1213
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: story antony, he is linked to the Seattle seats. I

1214
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: feel like the fifth time in two years, guys are

1215
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: reluctant they don't want him in. I'm saying guys meaning

1216
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: the meaning the people most are reluctant or not. I

1217
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: like see, see, I don't like how you're setting me

1218
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: up right now. Debate, debate, you didn't. I get it.

1219
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine. Some people like it. Some people

1220
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: don't like it. Right me personally, you sign him. The

1221
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: reasons why I don't like it, it's because I feel

1222
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: like there's enough on the football field to get it done.

1223
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: Will he make this receiving corps better? Yes, But I

1224
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: also think that I want DK to develop in an

1225
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: environment that's conducive to him being a superstar. I don't

1226
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: know what Aby's attitude is gonna be, like, is he

1227
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: gonna be okay coming in and being the fourth receiver

1228
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: because David Moore has earned his right to be the

1229
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: third receiver. Just abe that is coming and say hey, Demo,

1230
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: you out of here. The same guy who was mad

1231
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: at seventeen targets in the game, is he gonna be

1232
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: okay coming in here and say you know, I'm gonna

1233
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: get my five targets. Okay, I get my four targets,

1234
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: and I get that. To me, it's a feeling, right,

1235
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean and and and there's nothing wrong with that.

1236
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: I always say, there's time to it. We feel as certain.

1237
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: I always say to how you feel or is that

1238
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: what you really think? Because I guess what I think,

1239
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: So you think because I don't think. Do you think

1240
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: that by not signing Aby that we would have a

1241
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: better chance of going and winning the Super Bowl? Or

1242
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: when we have a better chance to win the Super

1243
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: Bowl if we signed a B Because now, because you

1244
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: went with a little bit with DK and his development

1245
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, so it's there's there's contingencies in there.

1246
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: You owned it. So that's all I wanted to. His

1247
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: mind has to be right. I don't know if his

1248
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: mind is right. I know that's a feeling. I don't

1249
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: know if his mind is right that you don't know

1250
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: if his mind is no. So if we're just talking

1251
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: about the player, I'll take the player. I'll take the

1252
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: player in twenty sixteen seventeen who was out there just

1253
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: having fun playing ball. I'll take that guy. Okay, in

1254
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: my debate, I got them and that that's that was

1255
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: volumes to me. So let me let me frame this.

1256
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: First of all, let's take the off field issues off

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Speaker 1: the table. Okay, if the Seahawks bring them in and

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Speaker 1: sign them, they've done their due diligence, they feel comfortable.

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Speaker 1: So I need to take that off because what does

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Speaker 1: that mean due diligence? Like they they've talked to him

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Speaker 1: and say, look, this is this is gonna be your role. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: it would certainly be part of that before they signed them.

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Speaker 1: The other would be what have you even been doing?

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Speaker 1: What have you been doing off the field? They'd been

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Speaker 1: seeing us psychologists and you just how have you changed

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Speaker 1: your life? And so there's that due diligence there are

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Speaker 1: you Are they comfortable bringing him in? Again? I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. We don't know that. So I have to

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Speaker 1: take that part off the table because we'll start to

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Speaker 1: get into the discussion of the off the field do

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Speaker 1: you sign them because of the off the field issues?

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Speaker 1: And to me, it's that's a separate issue. He's he's bad.

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01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: That's that's where I'm starting with. So do I bring better?

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01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: Because they are entertaining this, so I'm bringing I'm bringing

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01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: him in purely as a player right now, do we

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01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: sign him or do we not sign play? And as

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Speaker 1: the player, there are parts of maybe his ego. You know,

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: I forget the office, it's the ego. I need catches.

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Speaker 1: How am I gonna be in a locker room? Here's

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Speaker 1: why I say we absolutely sign him. If the Seahawks

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01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: had Underdoe deal so they're comfortable with the off the

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Speaker 1: field stuff, absolutely sign Here's why one is it's different.

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01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: The difference is he has to prove himself. He cannot

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01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: he can't stumble at all. If he wants a long

1285
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: term contract next year, we get him for half a season.

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01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 1: The contract is completely built in our favor, so there's

1287
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: a no risk you step out of line at all.

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01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: We let you go. The other part is you're in

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: a prove it mode. We're an offense that we don't

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: go to one guy. Everybody's live and by the way,

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01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: it's not that he's the third guy. I'm putting four

1292
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers out there. If you want demo, prove it.

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01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: This is a prove it team. And Russell will say,

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01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: if you are working it, whatever that scheme is, I'll

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01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: find you. If you're open, I'll find you. I think

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01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: locker room. He's gonna be fine. He was with Russell

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Speaker 1: all offseason. You're putting a lot of faith. So you're

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01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: walking by faith. It's what you're doing. Mute him, not teasing.

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Speaker 1: You're walking by faith. No, So I'm just telling you

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01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: what I think. I think that because of the situation,

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Speaker 1: the contract, he's worked with Russell, Russell knows him. Percy Harvin.

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Speaker 1: Some people say, well, I'm comparing to Tip. You. Remember

1303
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: what happened with Percy Harvin. We signed him, I go, yeah,

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01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: we want a Super Bowl now, and he took one

1305
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: of the house and he took one to the house. Now, look,

1306
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: we end up getting rid of Golden Tape because there

1307
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: was some friction there and because we were so vested

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01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: in Harvey with his contract and we traded for him

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01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: that there wasn't much we can do. That's not the

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,479
Speaker 1: case here. Contract would be in seahawks favor for half

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: a season. Prove it to me. You gotta be a

1312
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: model citizen. And by the way, I would have him

1313
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: live with Russell Wilson. No, I'm not someone else laughed

1314
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: it down. I would absolutely living in my house. This

1315
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: house is big enough the street. Ain't living in my house. No,

1316
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: in your house, in Russell's house. It would be like

1317
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: him living two houses down. See now I'm thinking, I'm

1318
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: thinking long term. No, no, this short term, even short term,

1319
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: even if it's okay, this for this year, I don't

1320
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: want anything to derail what DK is becoming. And there's

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01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: nothing that he's done that says he's going to uplift

1322
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: DK and this isn't there's nothing that uplifting. But that's

1323
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: what he has to do for this team to be successful.

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: He can't come in And so you don't think Russell's

1325
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: you don't think his leadership and what he knows about

1326
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: him is good enough? No, I think it is. I

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: trust it. I trusted if Russell once and then I'm

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: okay with it. I'm asking questions. I'm going I'm just saying, like, look,

1329
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: look these are game these are the things that I'm

1330
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: concerning these things. I sit down with you, a b

1331
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: here's the deal. You're gonna get four or five targets,

1332
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: and if you're working hard and the defense shifts over

1333
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: to Tyler and Decay, you're gonna get six to seven targets.

1334
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: We might throw a reverse. So here's the deal. I

1335
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: hope the independent voters came to my side. Hope I

1336
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: think you won it. Oh yeah, you win it. If

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01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: you win it, I'm not mad. I'm not mad that

1338
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: you won that. I'm not mad if he's in their jersey.

1339
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: I just have concerns. Once he puts it on and

1340
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: he plays a game and there's only twenty five attempts

1341
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 1: and he gets three targets, is he gonna be able

1342
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: to rely on his counseling, on all his his his teachings.

1343
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: Can I close it? Don't? I don't know. I feel

1344
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: like it could be a disruption. I feel like the

1345
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: locker rooms at risk. I feel like the Seahawks won't

1346
01:07:55,400 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: sign them for a bunch of reasons. But feel don't

1347
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: win super bowls. It's about winning, and I think the

1348
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks sign him and win the Super Bowl when they do.

1349
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: We're going with my thought rather than my feelings. I

1350
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: hope you're right. We gotta go to commercial. I wonna na.

1351
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: We just gotta keep going, gotta keep going. Hey, you guys,

1352
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: let us know what you think text us. I've been

1353
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: looking at the text lines. We've got a couple of texts,

1354
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: but covid I'm next. We'll give you our final thoughts

1355
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: in the seats key to victory right here on Hawks Live.

1356
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: Hawks Live every Thursday from seven to nine, Live on

1357
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: air on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Every Thursday, find us

1358
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: here on seventeen ESPING at seven o'clock. Me and myself

1359
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: and my guy Paul Morrior will be giving you our thoughts,

1360
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: our perspectives. Hey, but I'm not gonna lie apart. I

1361
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: missed you, man, I missed you. It's been fourteen weeks

1362
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: in dog weeks. Fourteen weeks in dog weeks, that's all.

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01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: That's a launchime weeks, two weeks. I got a dog,

1364
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: a little labor doodle named Lulu. You okay, you're not

1365
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: a lapperdoodle kind of guy. I'm not. My wife is, though,

1366
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: so you know, happy wife, happy life. That's what one

1367
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: guy told me, and I said, you know what, I'm

1368
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: just gonna run with that and keep that going well,

1369
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: so real quick. I've been married over thirty years, so

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Speaker 1: this is not the case. But I would say unhappy wife,

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01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: unhappy life. Yeah, I like that better happy wife. You

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: just like good like you know, I'm I'm but when

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01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: they're not happy, Jen, if you're listening, Boum's doing a

1374
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: great job. He's been talking about you. Allow you to

1375
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: put that out there, doing a great job. He loves

1376
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: you very much, exactly what I was thinking to my

1377
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: guy nas right there. That's that new love. So that

1378
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: last segment was good. We got a few, actually we

1379
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: got hundreds of texts, a lot of them. It looks

1380
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: like them coming, looks like they're they're leaning towards my side.

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would remember bump, but that's only

1382
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: because some of them took the off field sto. Remember

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: this isn't about this is about just the play. He's

1384
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: a player, and I'm with you player, right. You talk

1385
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: about no acronyms for for for the two h six,

1386
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:14,440
Speaker 1: No acronyms for Antonio Brown, No, no no abes apparently,

1387
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: But if we're taking Antonio Brown, one of the greatest

1388
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: receivers of all time, he enhances this football team. You

1389
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: who would not be happy about it, we'll move on,

1390
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: would be Demo. Anybody who's like, wait a minute, look,

1391
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: there's there's there's plenty to go around, plenty to go around?

1392
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: Is there plenty? There's not plenty. There's there's not plenty.

1393
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: Look for you and I, it's more of you and me.

1394
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: It's more of one is plenty? Right, Demo? If he

1395
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: gets a couple, he's he's good a couple of targets

1396
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: as long as Demo gets a fadeball? What am I

1397
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: doing right now? Hey? Hey, slipping the super Bowl ring

1398
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: on my finger? I feel you? Let me have it.

1399
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: I'd love to know you know, what would be really

1400
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: good if we had like and they wouldn't give us

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01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: the truth? But yeah, Jamal Adams and Bobby that the

1402
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: leaders and what do they think? Because look, and here's

1403
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: why it's different. I'm sorry we're actually debating us again.

1404
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: But what's what will be different about this is all

1405
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: the players that the leaders will have an input on this.

1406
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: They'll they'll have to be bought in. Yeah, and so

1407
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: they bring do you think Snyder and Pete Carroll are

1408
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: talking to? No question? Yeah, you know I well, one,

1409
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: that's their their m O. Sorry, that's there what they

1410
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: like to do. Um and that's been their history. Uh yes,

1411
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: and something like this this big, where it does it

1412
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: could affect the team and how it was structured. Yeah,

1413
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: and look, I mean look, we already know Russell would

1414
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: love to have him here, and he has a different

1415
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: opinion on him as a person and probably some other people,

1416
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: but again purely as a player. Back to Nisa Conor,

1417
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: it's just as a player. Would you bring him in?

1418
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: And for me, I'm bringing him in. We'll bring him in. Yeah,

1419
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: all right, okay, So for this team to go six

1420
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, what needs to happen? I'll tell you

1421
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: what I think needs to happen first and then you

1422
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: holler at me. I think that this defense needs to

1423
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: be a top ten rush defense in the league. This

1424
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: defense needs to make sure that they'd help they contain

1425
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: Cala Murray, that Drake doesn't run like crazy, because this

1426
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: is the fourth rank rushing offense in the NFL. Low Key,

1427
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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize this until I started watching film

1428
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: in studying like we do every week. If they can

1429
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: make Colin Murray throw the football and put it in

1430
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,799
Speaker 1: his hands, which is still scary because he got Hopkins,

1431
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 1: he got Kirk and go down field, you got Isabel

1432
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: and then Drake is in in the past game as well.

1433
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 1: If they can contain Murray and Drake, they have a

1434
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: chance to win this ball game. Yeah. I was looking

1435
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: at some of Murray's stats, particularly on throws down field

1436
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: ten yards or more and out again it's he's not

1437
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: a garoppolo issue, but again struggles a little bit. A

1438
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: lot of it's you know that intermediate you know, bubble screen,

1439
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: quick screens, you know around there's he's pretty good. Um,

1440
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting is the short ones right in

1441
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: the middle he struggles a little bit. It might be

1442
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: his height. He hasn't figured out the lane yet. And

1443
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: Russell did really on too, and he's figured that out.

1444
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: He's not that accurate. I mean, there's no question and

1445
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent with your assessment. It to me,

1446
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: it's all about stop stopping their running game. And the

1447
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: running game is you know, accentuated because you got a

1448
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: running quarterback. You know, if it was purely on running backs,

1449
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: you'd go, WHOA, that's problem. You know, some of it

1450
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 1: scrambles on you know, the passing game, and I wish

1451
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: they would actually break those out a little bit more

1452
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: in the running game because it doesn't tell the real stories.

1453
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 1: Yeah right, crazy. And here's the other thing. Why would

1454
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: you take yards off passing on a sack? Just take

1455
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: it off total yards? The passing is a passing, you know,

1456
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: the same thing if I scramble for a run, you know,

1457
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: have a miscellaneous piece off of a scrambled It's hard

1458
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: to decipher that. So there's a lot of information there.

1459
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: But to me, you're right, we have to make them

1460
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: one dimensional. Um, we got to make them throw the football.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about their defense. They put pressure and they

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Speaker 1: got a really good coordinator. They have a Jamal Adams

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Speaker 1: on that defense. They have a different kind of atoms. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they have a guy who is comfortable dropping in

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Speaker 1: two zones or dropping in a space, but a guy

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Speaker 1: who's also comfortable lining up on that second level disguising

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Speaker 1: things and shooting through gaps. This boot of you could

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Speaker 1: you did say his name? What? He's a Husky. I

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Speaker 1: know it's hard for you to get those out. Hey,

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Speaker 1: when you're three and one against the Huskies, Oh, spit

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Speaker 1: them out all day. I'm fine. How many decades ago

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Speaker 1: is here. It doesn't matter. Okay, these guys after me

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Speaker 1: have the stuff to worry about. When I when I

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Speaker 1: was coming up, that flag was on the space and

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Speaker 1: kne three out of the four years, so you know,

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Speaker 1: but game recognized game. Yeah, and it is. Motor is

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Speaker 1: ridiculous there. They're different players. I mean, Buddha is probably

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Speaker 1: twenty pounds lighter than than Jamal Adams. Jamal can can

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Speaker 1: really beat a running back, you know, one on one. Uh,

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Speaker 1: But Buddh is so quick across the edge and he

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Speaker 1: makes people miss rather than you know, an actual pass move. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The way he accelerates into a tackle, it's freaky. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Really good player. Excited to see them. I hope the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks win. Gonna be a tough game, gonna be the

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Speaker 1: best team they played all year by a long shot,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's really how good are we going

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Speaker 1: to be moving forward? It's gonna be at five twenty,

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Speaker 1: you know, on Sunday night, they're going going down to Glendale.

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Speaker 1: They've had success out there. We'll have more Seahawks fans

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Speaker 1: than they do facts and maybe eight thousand to four thousand,

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Speaker 1: but we'll be louder Louder. We're in the neon green jerseys.

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Speaker 1: They always stand out. They stand out, Paul, That's why

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Speaker 1: they were I think they do all right. I think

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Speaker 1: they do that on purpose. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: say thank you to NASA Chobey, our producer Darren Irvin,

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Speaker 1: Will Disley, Matt Harden, and my guy Paul Moyer. I

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Speaker 1: missed you man. I'm glad we're doing this again, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do it for a few more weeks in

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Speaker 1: a row. This is Michael Bumps and Paul Morrier. Hawks

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Speaker 1: you guys next week, hopefully. These guys are six and old.

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