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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Only the rich survive.

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Speaker 1: I will explain that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody,

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Speaker 1: it's that time. It's Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks on Andy for me, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: we are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: And away we go, and I got to introduce my guy.

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Speaker 1: He deserves a band, he deserves a red carpet.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy.

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Speaker 1: He has a bad bat front carrying my fat rear

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Speaker 1: end every single Sunday. He's my guy. His name is

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. Hello, fuck, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good Andy? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Everything is great, Everything is wonderful, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I get this thing here. I turned the radio one

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Speaker 1: during the week, I hear counting the day's fanfl three

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Speaker 1: weeks for the first game.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 1: It's a stupid question, but I'll ask you was You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty stupid. Why is everybody get so excited for

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Speaker 1: the NFL? I'm thinking maybe because fantasy football and gambling.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, I have a reason. But I want

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Speaker 1: to hear why are you telling me all these talk

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Speaker 1: show holds?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I can't wait and then when the season goes on

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Speaker 1: after the third week, they're bored. They're bored out of

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Speaker 1: their guard. They really are telling me, I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the greatest sport.

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Speaker 4: I think it captivates fan interest because you've seen so

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Speaker 4: many worse the first stories, everybody feels like their team

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Speaker 4: has a chance to immediately turn it around, no matter

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Speaker 4: how bad it was this previous season. They feel like,

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Speaker 4: I have opportunity to go back to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And so it creates an unbelievable and sexual desire to

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Speaker 4: want to watch the game. And then when you factor

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Speaker 4: in fantasy football and gambling and all of those things,

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Speaker 4: I think it's the easiest sport to participate in those venues.

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Speaker 4: You know, from a fantasy football perspective, it's just easier

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Speaker 4: than baseball and basketball in terms of trying to keep

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Speaker 4: up with You have seventeen games, so you can do that,

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Speaker 4: and then the gabbling aspect, you know, prop bets and

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Speaker 4: all of the other things, like it is a game

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Speaker 4: that is made to bring the casuals in.

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Speaker 3: That's there's so much interest in the sport.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And you answered the question for the sake of

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Speaker 1: the fans, the masses, okay, which I always think the

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Speaker 1: masses are asses anyway, But that's for the masses, the

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Speaker 1: big people out there.

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Speaker 2: The fans.

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Speaker 1: And that's a great answer, okay, my answer here. As

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Speaker 1: far as people behind the microphones who do talk show

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Speaker 1: hosts and things like that, sports guys, they can't wait

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Speaker 1: because it's easy. You know, you have all these topics

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Speaker 1: on the silver plot for you. That's basically what is.

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Speaker 1: The storylines are ridiculous. It's like a soap opera. And

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Speaker 1: right now, when I'm not going to say the sports

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Speaker 1: world is a little slow, I don't think it's slow,

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Speaker 1: but there's nothing really captivating. You know, it's WNBA season

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Speaker 1: now when you think about it, that's basically what it is.

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Speaker 2: Baseball. Maybe it's just too long.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: Football obviously is meaningful, more meaningful because every game means

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Speaker 1: so much. But as far as the people who broadcast

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Speaker 1: and do these kind of shows, you've got to be

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Speaker 1: a little more creative. I think that you and I

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Speaker 1: are on Sundays, we really are. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: I turn the ready. I want to hear people talking

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Speaker 1: about their personal lives, which I don't really care about.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I just don't care, you know, where

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Speaker 1: to be entertained, you know, and they talk sports. But

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Speaker 1: that's another story for another day.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about my guy, all right, the

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Speaker 1: strange case of my guy, Jake. And I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: What's going on with him? I mean, he's gonna withdraw

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Speaker 1: the school on the code of no premarital sex. All right,

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Speaker 1: and they're gona suspend him for seven games. I mean

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Speaker 1: don't get suspend it at all. You know, the dui

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Speaker 1: I get b YU. Maybe it's to a higher standard.

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Speaker 1: Is that it? But you know what, who play on

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Speaker 4: to code is everything. And so when they make the

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Speaker 4: you know, the violation of the premarital sex thing is

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Speaker 4: as serious as any other egregious transgressions that you have

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Speaker 3: And they treated seriously.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You have to remember religious based school. They adhere to

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Speaker 4: the you know, the Book of Mormon and those things.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: Look, the Latter Day says do not play around when

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Speaker 4: it comes to that. And this is not the first

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Speaker 4: before the NCAA tournament, Uh, they had to kick a

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Speaker 4: like this, is what they stand on, and when you

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Speaker 3: There, you know what it is. You know what those

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Speaker 4: You understand the ethics and all the other stuff that

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who you are, what your status is

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Speaker 4: in the program. You are going to serve a punishment

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Speaker 4: and these are the consequences that come with those actions.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me that Jim McMahon didn't have problems when

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Speaker 1: he went to BYU. I mean, come on, really, think

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Speaker 1: I was a wild child.

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Speaker 4: He was a wild child, and even back in the

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Speaker 4: telling you as a scout who has been through there

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Speaker 4: on an annual basis multiple times throughout the year, like

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Speaker 4: ask coaches like, well, how do you all attract certain kids?

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Speaker 4: How you're getting kids from LA and those things, and

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Speaker 4: the appeal there is one campus is beautiful to back

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Speaker 4: in the day and continue to be now, Like they

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Speaker 4: have a really good football program. And back then when

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Speaker 3: Now Sataki has done a great job.

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Speaker 4: Colina Sataki, the head coach, has done a great job

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Speaker 4: But you have to understand what they're about, and they

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Speaker 3: This is what they're about. This is what they've been

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Speaker 4: No different than Liberty University in Virginia when it comes

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Speaker 4: similar things, they don't bend all those things.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say this first of all. You know

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Speaker 1: you said about bringing them young. That's the school that

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Speaker 1: when Leavelle Edwards was the football coach there. They always won.

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Speaker 1: Reverend Or Roberts called me in his office and when

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Speaker 2: And I did.

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Speaker 1: And he said, if you feel uncomfortable going to chapel

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Speaker 1: no public display of affection. You know, you couldn't do that,

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Speaker 1: a true story. I didn't know about that. They didn't

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Speaker 1: And I went out one night. I was single, I

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Speaker 1: those calendars in there. I didn't know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: that I never really got in trouble at all Roberts.

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Speaker 1: But there were there were some rules, and I remember

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Speaker 1: there were some rules that were enforced that there was

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Speaker 1: a weight clause. I mean really and true. They yes,

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Speaker 1: they dismissed people from the school who were overweight. I mean,

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Speaker 1: really and truly.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if you can get away with

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Speaker 1: that now, But back when I was there, you know,

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Speaker 1: Was college football right around the corner and Bucket, I

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Speaker 1: know you can do this. I think maybe most of

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Speaker 1: the people who follow the sport that can name probably

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Speaker 1: the top twelve teams before the season starts. You know,

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Speaker 1: I ask you this, is that a good thing? I'm

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Speaker 1: not so certain that's a good thing, because you want

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Speaker 1: to see a little bit of a mix up. And

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you a part two of that question, why

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Speaker 1: can you name the top twelve teams. I know why

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Speaker 1: because those are the teams that have all the money

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Speaker 1: and they're paying these players to come there. That's how

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Speaker 1: you know Ohio State's going to be there. They paid

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Speaker 1: fifty mil for their team last year, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean it definitely is a game

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Speaker 4: that is moving towards.

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Speaker 3: But it's always been the haves and the have nots.

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Speaker 4: We just know above board what people are paying to

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Speaker 4: secure the players and the talent and those things. But

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Speaker 4: it has always been this and you've always been able

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Speaker 4: to know that if you follow the brand names, the

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Speaker 4: brand names more than likely are going to be in

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Speaker 4: the postseason tournament. I'm not surprised. I'm not even discouraged

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Speaker 4: by that. Like, I'm okay with all of that, because

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Speaker 4: the one thing that we do know is in the

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Speaker 4: preseason you can't really predict what is going to happen

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Speaker 4: out over the course of the record season. Remember, last year,

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Speaker 4: Florida State was a top ten pick. Florida State had

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Speaker 4: spent a lot of money dug into transfer portal and

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Speaker 4: they were absolutely terrible. Texas A and M a few years

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Speaker 4: ago has spent more money than anybody else when it

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Speaker 4: came to the recruiting class couldn't get off the ground

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Speaker 4: and going.

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Speaker 3: So just because you.

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Speaker 4: Spend a lot of money doesn't mean that it's going

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Speaker 4: to work out in your favor. But I'd suggest, better

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Speaker 4: the talent, the better the team.

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Speaker 1: Can I make a decision here the fact that if

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Speaker 1: I could pick the top ten top twelve teams because

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Speaker 1: of the money that they spend, and these are the

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Speaker 1: same ten twelve teams that baby were there before NIL,

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Speaker 1: can I say that those are the same ten twelve

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Speaker 1: teams that were probably paying under the table take at

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Speaker 1: their players.

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Speaker 3: Is that a reason? Yes, yes, you can.

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Speaker 4: You can't say that we can't intimate and insinuate that

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Speaker 4: that might be a practice that was going on before

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Speaker 4: it became legalized. But nothing has changed. You just know,

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Speaker 4: everyone just knows what it is.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But Deon Sanders during the Big twelve media days, he

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Speaker 1: was in pretty vocal about his views on the current

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Speaker 1: state of NIL name image and like this obviously in

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Speaker 1: college football, and he wants a salary cap similar to

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Speaker 1: the NFL. He believes obviously the current system creates and

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Speaker 1: on even playing field, with some schools obviously kind of

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Speaker 1: over significantly more money to players than others, leading to

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Speaker 1: a situation he says, where the teams with the most

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Speaker 1: financial resources.

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Speaker 2: Dominate the sport.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And he says that disparity makes it difficult

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Speaker 1: for programs without big nil resources to compete for top talent.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Secondly, why is Dion the only one speaking out like that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you've.

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Speaker 4: Heard other coaches and stuff talk about it, you know,

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Speaker 4: talk about the craziness in terms of the money and

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Speaker 4: those things pay for play in il portal. Just the

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Speaker 4: current state of college football is a little wacky, but

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Speaker 4: you have to adapt and adjusts. And it's a fine

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Speaker 4: line because as coaches, they're leaders of young men, whether

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Speaker 4: young men are the beneficiaries of the new system so

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Speaker 4: to get paid, So you want to say that you

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Speaker 4: support your players while also pointing out the system is

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Speaker 4: crazy and it makes it hard for me to do

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Speaker 4: my job as a coach.

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Speaker 3: I get paid a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: So there's some hypocrisy there when they're speaking about the

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Speaker 4: amount of money that's going because coaches and everyone else

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Speaker 4: has benefited from a loan for a long time on

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Speaker 4: the labor of those in between the lines, and at

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Speaker 4: some point it had to level up and even out,

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Speaker 4: and now we in the correction phase. This is a

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Speaker 4: market correction where the players have a lot of power.

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Speaker 4: The players are using their power commanding big checks. At

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Speaker 4: some point it'll level out and there would be more

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Speaker 4: a quality when it comes to the pay scale and

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Speaker 4: some of those things.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: We'll see about that. Texas Tech the other day. Than

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Speaker 1: they pay five million dollars for a football player. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing to me. It's more amazing to me, not

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Speaker 1: the money that they're getting. That there are people out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say foolish, because I think they are,

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Speaker 1: but maybe they don't that they would give money to

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Speaker 1: a potential kid who may stay there for a year.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't like it doesn't like the coach, or the

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Speaker 1: coach leaves and he wants to leave too.

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Speaker 2: I just don't.

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Speaker 1: Understand why you would write a check to get a

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Speaker 1: played to come to that school unless you're a tremendous

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Speaker 1: alum you love your school. I don't get it. I

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Speaker 1: really don't. Saint John's has one. That's why Rick Patino

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Speaker 1: was doing so well in basketball and Saint John's he's

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Speaker 1: got a guy that opens up his checkbook. That's all

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Speaker 1: you need. You can't. Recruiting is nothing. Now the coach

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Speaker 1: has to recruit a money guy, not recruit players. You

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Speaker 1: got to recruit a money guy. That's what the kids want.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure when you go to a kid's house or school,

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Speaker 1: talk to a kids mom and dad. They they don't say,

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Speaker 1: am I gonna start? Or we're gonna be on TV?

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Speaker 1: What conference are in?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: How much am I going to get? That's what they

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Speaker 2: want to know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is what they want to know. They want

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Speaker 4: to know how much money they're gonna get. That's part

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Speaker 4: of the plan and the process. And uh, it's different,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's a much different deal

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Speaker 4: when it comes to it. But you got to adapt

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Speaker 4: and adjust, and the good ones are able to adapt.

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Speaker 4: They make the adjustments based on the landscape. And look,

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Speaker 4: if you want to compete at the highest level, you

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Speaker 4: know what you're getting into. And once you get into it,

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Speaker 4: you got to play by the rules that are there.

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Speaker 4: And so either you're in or you're out when it

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Speaker 4: comes to paying players. But if you're you're out, and

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a hard you have a hard road

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Speaker 4: to hold when it comes to to being in the

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Speaker 4: conversation as a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they're paying the players, and Dion says, this should

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Speaker 1: be a cat. That's number one.

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Speaker 3: Number two.

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Speaker 1: We know the schools with the most money are probably

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Speaker 1: going to be more successful. But as of July one,

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Speaker 1: college athletes are being paid directly by the universities which

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Speaker 1: they play. But it doesn't mean that the schools are

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Speaker 1: divulging the payments on record, which is crazy because if

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Speaker 1: you want to have a salary cap, you won't know

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Speaker 1: how much these schools are paying. And I just looked

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Speaker 1: this up. You mentioned that kid from BYU to basketball

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Speaker 1: player Ajd Bansa. He's going to get like five million

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Speaker 1: dollars before signing with BYU. Okay, But schools do not

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Speaker 1: publicly disclose the amounts of revenue sharing deals voluntarily, and

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Speaker 1: whether they will ever be compelled to do so is

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Speaker 1: unclear according to the records. So in other words, you

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Speaker 1: can have a limit of what like.

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Speaker 2: Dion wants to have a point of no return.

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Speaker 1: Really, but the schools don't have to announce how much

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Speaker 1: money they're paying, which is nuts.

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Speaker 9: Really it is, Nettie.

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Speaker 4: But here's what I will say about the revenue sharing.

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Speaker 4: The reason why you can't have like the level playing

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Speaker 4: field because everyone's not bringing in the same revenue. Right,

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Speaker 4: Big ten and SEC schools are making more money than

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Speaker 4: say you're a conference your essays or you're Mountain West,

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Speaker 4: so it's hard to.

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Speaker 3: Balance it out.

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Speaker 4: Now, if you want to make it competitive, the salary

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Speaker 4: cap would make it competitive because you could tell everybody

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Speaker 4: you only can spend up to X amount, and even

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Speaker 4: those teams that couldn't get up to X amount, it

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Speaker 4: would limit the surplus that some of the Ohio states

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Speaker 4: would have. So rather than being able to load up

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Speaker 4: and hoard all the five stars because they're overpaying those

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Speaker 4: guys who may not even be starters for them, well

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Speaker 4: some of them would have to go elsewhere, and that

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Speaker 4: would level the playing field a little bit. But honestly,

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Speaker 4: without regulation, and right now in college football you don't

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Speaker 4: have any regulation, right, the NCAA has been neutered, like

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Speaker 4: the course of taking a lot of their power, almost

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Speaker 4: all their power away.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a commititioner.

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Speaker 4: You just have I will say, a bunch of renegades

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Speaker 4: and mercenaries in terms of commissioners and presidents trying to

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Speaker 4: make these things but you don't have the Grand Pooba

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Speaker 4: who can decide on it.

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Speaker 3: That's where it is.

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Speaker 4: So when we talk about the state of college football,

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Speaker 4: it starts from a leadership standpoint. You got to annoint

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Speaker 4: a leader. Then you got to set the structure for

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Speaker 4: how you want this to look like. You got the

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Speaker 4: power for and others. How are we going to do it?

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Speaker 4: Are we going to leave the others out of the

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Speaker 4: party and let them create their own playoffs because they're

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Speaker 4: playing on a different landscape, because they don't have the

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Speaker 4: money to play with the big boys. I mean, there's

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Speaker 4: so many different things that should be at play, and

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Speaker 4: hopefully at some point will make those decisions because every

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Speaker 4: school can't operate successfully under to pay for pay for

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Speaker 4: play model.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of case studies over here. I looked at Alabama.

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Speaker 1: They respelled it to a request that their quarterback Ty

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Speaker 1: Simpson and a wide receiver by the name of Ryan Williams.

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Speaker 1: People went to their contracts and they came back on

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Speaker 1: this quote. There are no public documents responsive to your

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Speaker 1: open records request. All right, this is amazing. Other schools

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Speaker 1: have different justifications Clemson. Clemson denied a request made by

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Speaker 1: the newspaper The Post, and Curry is stating that the

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Speaker 1: agreements are proprietary and that releasing them will put the

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Speaker 1: Tigers at a competitive disadvantage. So, in other words, they

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Speaker 1: know they obviously, but they don't want to release it

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Speaker 1: for fear of like you know in Ohio, States says, well, look,

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Speaker 1: Clemson's paying this guy this much. We're paying here. It's

677
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Speaker 1: not good and it's got to change. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they can continue this.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a different deal.

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Speaker 4: But without a commissioner, without a collective bargaining agreement, without

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Speaker 4: those things, you can't put certain practices into place. You

683
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Speaker 4: can't put a salary kept in the place until you

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Speaker 4: negotiate those things.

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Speaker 3: And you have to negotiate with the players.

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Speaker 4: And the thing that college forts have always shun or

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Speaker 4: shot away from was treating players like an equal partner

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Speaker 4: in the league.

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Speaker 3: The reason why you have.

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Speaker 4: To deal with MLB's union, the reason why you have

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Speaker 4: to deal with the NFLPA when it comes to football,

692
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Speaker 4: is because you recognize that those are your employees. Because

693
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Speaker 4: of the model or hiding behind the amateurism model for

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Speaker 4: so long, where they kept players as amateurs but everyone

695
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: else or treated like professionals because they made money like pros.

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Speaker 4: You have this thing, and it's the facade that is

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Speaker 4: kind of caught up with the NCAA and college football.

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Speaker 4: Now you have to make We're coming to a crossroads

699
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Speaker 4: where you have to make a decision.

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Speaker 3: Are they students student athletes? Are they employees?

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Speaker 4: Because once you get that, and once you convince everybody, hey,

702
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Speaker 4: these are employees, Well, now you've got to have a union.

703
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Speaker 4: You have to have these conversations and negotiate these deals, and.

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Speaker 3: Then we can level out.

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Speaker 4: The playing field when it comes to some of the

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Speaker 4: asks that Deion Sanders and other coaches have had.

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Speaker 1: So the bottom line is is that colleges are withholding

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Speaker 1: the revenue sharing contract deals of their athletes because they

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Speaker 1: come back and say athletes are not employees, that in fact,

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Speaker 1: will keep the deals private.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're doing right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're keeping the deals private because if you find

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Speaker 4: out that Clemson is paying a cornerback six hundred thousand,

714
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Speaker 4: it's easy for a how you State of Alabama say hey,

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Speaker 4: we'll pay you nine hundred You know like, and so

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Speaker 4: it either has to be full disclosure all across the

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Speaker 4: board or what we have now is nondisclosure and everyone

718
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Speaker 4: is having the guests and speculating on what you're making.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what happens.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to your Brigham Young gu kid, they're

721
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Speaker 1: gonna get five million dollars to say, he goes to

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Speaker 1: Brigham Young and he doesn't like it over there and

723
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Speaker 1: he wants to go. I guess he goes in the portal.

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Speaker 1: After the first year, another school bids for his services.

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Speaker 1: Whether does that five million go with his deal to

726
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Speaker 1: the next school? How does that work?

727
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Speaker 3: Now?

728
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Speaker 4: Those contracts now and you're seeing more teams having to

729
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Speaker 4: write up contracts with various stipulations and those things about

730
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Speaker 4: the moneies and how it's paid and do you have

731
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Speaker 4: to pay some of these things back and all of

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Speaker 4: this other stuff. But you also as you're creating a

733
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Speaker 4: pro system, you are creating things punishments, consequences where not

734
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Speaker 4: only you jumping into porter where you have to pay

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Speaker 4: that money back, but if you're on the team, certain

736
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Speaker 4: things have to be met for you to get the money,

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Speaker 4: whether it's community service attendance policy, are you on time.

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Speaker 4: Are you where you need to be when you need

739
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Speaker 4: to be there, whether it's class or workouts and those things.

740
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Speaker 4: There are a bunch of different things that you're baking in.

741
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Speaker 4: And every time I hear it when I talk to

742
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Speaker 4: my coaching buddies, sounds a whole lot. They're like they're

743
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Speaker 4: running a pro team because of the things and stuff

744
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Speaker 4: that they're dealing with now that didn't exist before.

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Speaker 2: Well with blows me away.

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Speaker 1: Buck is the fact that this kid of Texas Tech

747
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Speaker 1: in five million a year, he's making more than shoot

748
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Speaker 1: do Or Sands is going to make with the Cleveland

749
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Speaker 1: Browns doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, right, doesn't make any sense.

751
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Speaker 4: I mean it's crazy, but it's a multi year deal

752
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: and some of those other things exist. But also Texas

753
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Speaker 4: Tech has wanted to get into the game, not only

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Speaker 4: in football, but remember Texas Tech. You know they made

755
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Speaker 4: it to the College World Series first time ever. You

756
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Speaker 4: know they paid the pitcher we'll play it to you

757
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: one yeah, software for one million dollars. They proached her

758
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Speaker 4: from Stanford. She came and pitch. She's obviously a hell

759
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Speaker 4: of a player. She guided them to the World Series. Well,

760
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Speaker 4: I would say that was a nice return on investment.

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Speaker 4: And that's what you're hoping when you put that kind

762
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Speaker 4: of money into your programs, you're hoping that it produces

763
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Speaker 4: a lot of wins and a lot of notoriety because

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Speaker 4: it not only helps the athletic department, but now it

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Speaker 4: helps the school because it puts the school on the map.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, he's Bucky Brooks. He's put

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Speaker 1: this show on the map of Andy Firman. We have

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports son they on Fox Butts radios. Time for

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Speaker 1: some answers, So we asked Bucky and it's next. Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

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Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com

772
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Speaker 1: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Speaker 1: And it's Bucky right around the corner. He's Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 1: and Andy Furman Aware Alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: About twelve minutes before the top of the hour, it

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Speaker 1: is time, I asked, Bucky, Patty, are you ready?

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, let's go old little dumb.

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Speaker 5: That's right, it's your produced ld in here right now.

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Speaker 9: Let's go a little dumper report for duty.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I just went with that on the fly for

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Speaker 5: Buck's Oh my goodness, well it's time for ass Bucky.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, Buck, I do got a one

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Speaker 5: for you here. So this one's kind of a fun one,

784
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Speaker 5: a little who would you rather? So to speak? So,

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Speaker 5: Bucky it is now you know. MLB All Star Week

786
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Speaker 5: is upon us here. You know obviously we have the

787
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Speaker 5: game and we have the home run Derby. So my

788
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Speaker 5: question to you is what would you rather do? Would

789
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Speaker 5: you rather be the home run Derby champion book or

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Speaker 5: would you rather be the All Star Game VP amidst

791
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Speaker 5: all those other stars?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'd rather be All Star MVP.

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00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: Had missed all the other stars amid all the other stars,

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Speaker 4: I was the brightest star.

795
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Speaker 3: And so that's more bang for my buck.

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Speaker 4: As I'm trying to make a case to be in

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00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, people care about that more so

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00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: than a home home run Derby chap. I would get

799
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Speaker 4: more notoriety and recognition for All Star Game MVP.

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Speaker 1: Good call, all right, I got one for your buck.

801
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: Charges running back Naji Harris. He sustained an eye injury

802
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: after a fireworks mishap at a July fourth event. He's expected,

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Speaker 1: though the good news to be ready for the upcoming

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: NFL season. But Buck, I ask you, do NFL players

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Speaker 1: have danger clauses like no skiing or no skydiving or

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00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: even roller skating in the off season.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they have all of those things.

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Speaker 4: And you know, one of the things that is disappointed

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Speaker 4: about nase situation, and hopefully it's not serious, is years

810
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 4: ago we saw the thing with Jason Pierre Paul and

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Speaker 4: every team before they break at the end of camp,

812
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: they tell guys they be smart, be careful, fourth of July,

813
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 4: make sure you're doing the right stuff. And unfortunately, man

814
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 4: too often we're hearing about these incidents with fireworks and

815
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 4: silly stuff right before we're about to return to camp.

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00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: Is one of the reasons why I don't like the

817
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: way the calendar is set, where NFL teams lose supervision

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00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: of their players for six weeks before they come back

819
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Speaker 4: to camp.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense to.

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Speaker 1: Me leave the fireworks for the professionals. Really, that's what

822
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: it's all about. I love fireworks, but dho, no, Betty,

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Speaker 1: you know again not you didn't even know what happened,

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Speaker 1: you know, Pierre Paul lost a couple of fingers. I mean,

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00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: come on, this is your life as your profession. Stop

826
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: it really all right? Next, I'm just curious about this.

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Speaker 1: Do NFL players call their coaches coach or that they

828
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: called them by their first name?

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Speaker 2: But I just wanted to know about that.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I think everyone calls them coach. It's not casual.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know even if the players older than

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Speaker 1: the coach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I still don't think we're at a first name basis. Like,

834
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Speaker 4: I think there's a level of respect that still has

835
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Speaker 4: to exist in those things.

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Speaker 3: And I know in some places in.

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Speaker 4: Schools like middle schools and the elements, they called the

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Speaker 4: teacher by the first name and instead of Miss Taylor's Susannah. No,

839
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: We're like, you need to have that proto call, and

840
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: coaches have to establish that right away. It doesn't have

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00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: to be a yes sir no sir situation, but it

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00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: certainly has to be a yes coach, no coach.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: When I hear about that, that is, I think about

845
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: the late Bobby Knight when he grabbed that kid's arm

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Speaker 1: in blooming To when he was coaching Indiana and the

847
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: kid went by me, Hey Night, how you doing. It

848
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: wasn't miss denied, It wasn't high coach. You called hey

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Speaker 1: Night and Bobby allegedly when Nats he grabbed his arm

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00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: and that was the end of Bobby Knight. But you know,

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00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: you gotta have respect. That's what it's all about. Now

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00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: we move on the NFL injury factor. More practice, obviously,

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00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: I would think there be less injuries. So do we

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00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: need a longer preseason? You think that might help maybe

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Speaker 1: cut down the number.

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Speaker 3: Of injuries in the NFL or the NBA took me

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Speaker 3: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: NFL, yeah, NFL.

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00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: I think the a few different things at play. You

860
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: don't have his nuts practice time united, But to do

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00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 4: what you used to do old school, you got to

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00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: get your body prepared for contact. And you know players

863
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: wanted more time off, more time away, But I would

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00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 4: say that that's not the greatest thing. The only way

865
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: that you can prepare for the sport is you got

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00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: to grind it out. You have to do it, and

867
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: they're training away from the facility. I think you actually

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00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: need more time with the supervision of professionals that are

869
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: devoted to the team to prepare the players.

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Speaker 3: That's where it's coming from.

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00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: You got too many breaks in the schedule, too many things, disruptions,

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00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 4: in the schedule where you're not able to get a

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00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: consistent rhythm and groove, just like I talked about with

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00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 4: the summer Huh.

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Speaker 1: All right, all coaches no matter what the sport, but

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: let's just say the basketball and football stick to that.

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Speaker 1: They all claim that they could change a team's culture.

878
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: How could they change the culture? And by the way,

879
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: what the hell is culture?

880
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: Anyway?

881
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: Culture is having a group of people to have shared

882
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 4: beliefs and a vision for how the team should operate,

883
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: and coaches can change it. But it's very, very difficult

884
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 4: and hard because you got to be consistent and you

885
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: got to manage the culture every day, meaning that you

886
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 4: can't let some things go harp on other things. If

887
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: you say this is what we believe in, this is

888
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 4: a core value, these are the rules, then you got

889
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: to enforce them each and every day and you can't

890
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 4: relent off of that.

891
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: That's the only way you get people.

892
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 4: To follow the vision and adhere to the protocol that

893
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: you want for your team to establish and play at

894
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 4: a high level.

895
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: Okay, let me run this by because the culture right

896
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: now with the Colorado Rockies is pretty damn bad.

897
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know if you use the

898
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: term culture. They stink.

899
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: They they're the worst team in baseball, so they're gonna

900
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: look for a manager. Obviously, the new guy comes in,

901
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: he thinks he could change things. How would you change

902
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: You got to get better players, right, That's what you

903
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: gotta do. That's the culture.

904
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 3: That's a part of the culture. You gotta have good players.

905
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, man, my dad

906
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: just said, you can't win to Kentucky Derby with a

907
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: pack mule. You gotta have some throbberds to be able

908
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: to win. But you also got to have a shared.

909
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: Alignment and vision with the people at the top.

910
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: So from top to bottom, everyone has to believe in

911
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 4: the same stuff and every decision that you make has

912
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: to be in line with their vision.

913
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: There we go.

914
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Firman.

915
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: By the way, Kobe call one quarterback the but Chris

916
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: thatnmore next right here on Fox he wants to be

917
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: left alone. We'll get to that in just about a minute.

918
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody, this is Fox Sports Sunday.

919
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports.

920
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 3: Ready.

921
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman.

922
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: I We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios

923
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: and away we go, and once again, my partner, my friend,

924
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: the one and only, Bucky Brooks, the man of stage, screen, Hollywood, coaching,

925
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, He's the man.

926
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: Fuck, how you doing, I'm great, man.

927
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: I can't complain Anyhow's everything on your Everything's good?

928
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: I can't complain either with nobody would listen. But we

929
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: move on, and Uh, I want to ask, have you

930
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: been watching The Quarterbacks on Netflix?

931
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

932
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: I have not had a chance to watch it, but

933
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: I've heard a lot about the conversations that are coming

934
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: about one Jerry Golf talking about the disappointing being traded,

935
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins feeling like he was blindsided, misled as he said,

936
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: when it came to the quarterback situation. Yeah, I've heard

937
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 4: about the quarterback and I have strong opinions on quarterbacks

938
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 4: and how they feel.

939
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about that right now. Because I've been

940
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: watching it eight part series, I've gone through four of

941
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: them already, and the three such different personalities. He got

942
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: Kurt Cousins, who is a bit of a geek. I mean,

943
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: I love him. I love the guy. I mean, and

944
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: he's a family man. I love the guy, kind of

945
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: like a little bit naive you know what the Atlanta

946
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: Falcon thing. He didn't realize they were going to draft

947
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback so high, but it seems to be.

948
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: Do you know Kirk Cousins at all? I think he's

949
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: a wonderful man.

950
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: I love him.

951
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: I mean I would, I would.

952
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: I mean I can't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't

953
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: know him well enough. I scouted him. I remember when

954
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: he was coming out of Michigan State and those things.

955
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 4: I know people that know him and talk highly about

956
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: who he is and his character in those things, but

957
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: I don't know him personally. And we used to say

958
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 4: there's similar representation his agents and stuff like that.

959
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I know him fairly well. I

960
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 3: know of him fairly well.

961
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: I would be shocked, very shocked if a cusswork ever

962
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: came out of his mouth.

963
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: Really, thats the kind of guy I think he is.

964
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: He gets his haircut at great clips, which I mean

965
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: these other guys have, like professional bobbers and things like that.

966
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: So he said one and after one of the games

967
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: he and his brother. His brother came to one of

968
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: the ball games in through a game when he was

969
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: the Falcons.

970
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: He went through a drive through.

971
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: He ordered a Burger and like, I think the girl

972
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: who took the order said how did the Falcons do today?

973
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: And he said they lost? And the girl said good

974
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: because I'm a New Orleans Saints fan. She didn't even

975
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: know who he was.

976
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: It was great. I mean, I just just a good guy. Okay.

977
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: You got Jared Goff, who basically kind kind of a

978
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, family guy, got a good looking wife and

979
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: a model. But you know, you like to see what

980
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: the guy has done because he thought he had a

981
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: raw deal being traded, you know, traded from La going

982
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: to Detroit and turned it around. And he's got a

983
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: coach in Detroit with the Lions who just loves him

984
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: to death. That's great. Then you got Joe Burrow. All right,

985
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: this guy, Joe Burrow thinks he's like the next Joe

986
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: Namath Okay, the second Coming. And I want to talk

987
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: about that for a second with you. Because he, as

988
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, last year, his house is broken into lest December,

989
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: says he wants a private life. I get it. I mean,

990
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: I think it's very difficult for an athlete to have

991
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: a private life. So I asked, how come Kirk Cousins

992
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: has a private life. Jeff Goff to some extent has

993
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: a private life. But when you wear a backless suit

994
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: and you're in Vogue magazine and you're in Paris, You're

995
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: not going to have much of a private life really, right.

996
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: That's the difference with Joe Burrow and the other two.

997
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

998
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I hear what you're saying in terms of that.

999
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: But like Joe Burrow is, he does have some of

1000
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: that modern day Joe Namath feel to him, like he's

1001
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 4: a man's man.

1002
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: He has a superstar.

1003
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 4: He has some swag to him that people gravitate towards

1004
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 4: and really like it's a lot. But I can't say

1005
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 4: this just because I'm a star on the football field

1006
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that I'm not entitled to privacy away from it.

1007
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: You know, I would like to have my private moments.

1008
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 4: I would like to be able to go through a

1009
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: certain part of life unbothered. Now, sometimes when you're like that,

1010
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: you have to pay for the privacy. Joe Burrow has

1011
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: to pay for it, give like with the way that

1012
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 4: he moves and where he like transportation in terms of

1013
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: like maybe has to five private if he doesn't want

1014
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 4: to be bothered at the airport, maybe has to stay

1015
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: at different hotels, higher end hotels that everyone can get to,

1016
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: because he doesn't want to be bothered in those things.

1017
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 4: But you know that privacy kind of can come with

1018
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: a cost.

1019
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: What is this deal now going into the locker and

1020
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: going into the ballpark, going into the stadium the day

1021
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: of the game, wearing these outfits. Right now, he has

1022
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: a guy that picks out his clothes, Joe Burrow. I

1023
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: don't think Kirk Cousins does. Kirk Cousins probably wears a

1024
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: hoodie to the game. Right Joe Burrow is wearing like

1025
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: these outfits with the shades and whatever. I'm not against it,

1026
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: but the point is when you do things like that.

1027
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: And they had a segment of a guy who basically

1028
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: dresses him against his clothing, which I you know, I do.

1029
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: Do many athletes have that.

1030
00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1031
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that before. And I thought, you they're

1032
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: supposed to talk about a private life. I think Michael

1033
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Jordan to some extent had a private life, Kareem had

1034
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: a private life. I think Patrick Mahomes to some extent

1035
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: has somewhat of a private life.

1036
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: I really do.

1037
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: You can have one if you want one.

1038
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: You have to like you have to pay for it,

1039
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 4: and you have to know how to move around what

1040
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: you're talking about as it relates to clothe ers and

1041
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 4: tailors and those things. That's a part of the professional life,

1042
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: particularly these days now, but it's also it's always been

1043
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: a part of it. When I was a player, there

1044
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: would be everyone had a suit guy or gale that

1045
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: would come through. They would fit you up during training

1046
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: camp or doing the off season programs so they could

1047
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: then deliver those suits right before the regular season, so

1048
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 4: every Sunday you could be fitted up, dressed to the nines,

1049
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 4: having a little bit of a fashion show when you

1050
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: walked in. Now, what's gone to the next level because

1051
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: these dudes have a serious interest?

1052
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: Did you have one? Did you have one?

1053
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: Not like that?

1054
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: Like I always wanted to look good, like even on TV,

1055
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 4: you want to look good, But I didn't have aspirations

1056
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 4: are going to uh Fashion Week in Paris, Like these

1057
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 4: guys are showing up. I didn't want to uh get

1058
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 4: into avant garde stuff and and and look different. This

1059
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: is what uh the younger generation they're they're into. They're

1060
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 4: really into clothes, They're into being different, they're into being edgy,

1061
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: and those things. And to do that, it takes a

1062
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: stylus and a clothier Taylor to make these things, these

1063
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 4: visions that you have for yourself come to life.

1064
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: I would go on step further. I'll make a bit

1065
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: of a U turn right here. Not only are the

1066
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: NFL guys doing it, the w NBA girls are doing it,

1067
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing it everywhere the game.

1068
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: Right did the stylist coming down there?

1069
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: I'm seeing Angel Reese dressing to the nines before a

1070
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: game wearing high heels, and she doesn't even know how

1071
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: to wear high heel She'll break an ankles wearing them.

1072
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: Really, I mean.

1073
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: Being disrespectful, but she was.

1074
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: I saw.

1075
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: Say this.

1076
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: I would say this, Andy. One of the things we

1077
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: used to talk about in college. We used to have

1078
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: the athletic banquet, and the one thing that would make

1079
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 4: us smirking giggle would be watching the women's basketball team

1080
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: or the women's soccer team, or field hockey or whatever

1081
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: have to put on heels because it's not necessarily the

1082
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: thing that they're doing. But here's what I will say

1083
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: about the WNBA and how things are changing.

1084
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1085
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 4: That now women and guys are showing people their personality

1086
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: and the way that they dress coming to the game.

1087
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: The WNBA in particular, like one of the things.

1088
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: That is happening. And I will say that this is

1089
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 4: a byproduct of the NFL. You know, it's only been

1090
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: within the last five or six years that you've seen

1091
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: guys get out of the car and walk into the

1092
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: locker room.

1093
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 3: Right. They call that the runway walk in TV, and.

1094
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Speaker 4: So we're now beginning to capture those moments because everyone

1095
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: is interested in what you're wearing. And in fact, in Jacksonville,

1096
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 4: you walk the teal carpet from your car into the thing.

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00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: Because it's such.

1098
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 4: A runway experience, everyone knows that people are looking, so

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Speaker 4: they dress for the occasion. I appreciate Angel Reese and

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00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 4: Sophie Cunneham and Cameron Burke and all the other ladies

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00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 4: who are dressing up because it does show that look

1102
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: there's a person behind the girl and the ponytail.

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00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: And the women's basketball unit.

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00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: I agree with you ten thousand.

1105
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see Sophie breaking an ankle

1106
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: wearing they did the high heels and there.

1107
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: They can play fine.

1108
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: They can be fine. They just have to practice, just

1109
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: like you practice. Your left hand layup.

1110
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: You got to practice walking in the heels so they

1111
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: can do it like they're they're fine.

1112
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: There is something to it, like I I can appreciate.

1113
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: I can appreciate the glamazons that are walking through.

1114
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I do agree with you.

1115
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: But you know when I saw that one time before again,

1116
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: they had Angel Reese.

1117
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: And she was wobbling.

1118
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: And I know she wasn't drunk, believe me, she just

1119
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: couldn't walk with the heels on. That's fine, but we

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00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: move on.

1121
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 4: I want sometimes sometimes the floor is slick, andy, and

1122
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: look slick your dress shoes didn't and I scuffed up.

1123
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: Yet you gotta scuff up your heels right your brand

1124
00:49:59,120 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: new shoes.

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00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: Maybe, I I don't know who knows, But I want

1126
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: to talk about foundations, Okay. I know foundations are somewhat

1127
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: tax shelters for athletes.

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00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

1129
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow has a foundation, and good for him.

1130
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: He wants to help the people in his area where

1131
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: he grew up in Ohio. I think it's Adams County

1132
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: up there, and it's not a great it's kind of

1133
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: a you know, a county where that could use some help. Okay,

1134
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, food wise, housing wise, whatever it might be.

1135
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: So if he really wanted a care for the people

1136
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: in his hometown with food and shelter, you know, why

1137
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: would he go public and say he wants to buy

1138
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: a batmobile. This is what he said, and it went national.

1139
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: But he said this on the Netflix show he wants

1140
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: to buy a Batman. An eight year old kid would

1141
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: go with mommy and daddy say Mommy, buy me, Daddy,

1142
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: buy me a batmobile, and the parents abobably say, you know, son,

1143
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: we really can't full one right now. You don't need one.

1144
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: I will tell you this much. I don't know how

1145
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: much a batmobile costs. I don't know what you need

1146
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: it for. But you bring that downtown Cincinnati, it would

1147
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: less than He'll never see it again. Really, it will

1148
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: be stripped. It'll be ripped.

1149
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what why Joe Burrow would need a babbel.

1150
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: You know what he needs. He needs what Kurt Cousins

1151
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: and Jared Goff have. He needs a wife and he

1152
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: needs a family. You know, don't grow up. I love

1153
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: him as a player, but grow up with babbelbile.

1154
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that.

1155
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: We're twenty five twenty six years old.

1156
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: You have more money than you can shake a stickcat,

1157
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: and you have a chance to make some of your

1158
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: tuhood dreams come to life.

1159
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 3: Maybe, just maybe.

1160
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow as a kid was fascinated with the Batmobile.

1161
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 4: You know, I used to love Superman and Superman is

1162
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 4: coming out? Should be in theaters surely, Like.

1163
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 3: That was my thing.

1164
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: I would fly from the couch with the tower wrapped

1165
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: around my neck like I was Superman.

1166
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 3: I believe I could fly all of this stuff.

1167
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: So he has an opportunity to live out some of

1168
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: those things. And you probably don't want to publicize it

1169
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 4: because it does put you out there. Cincinnati is a

1170
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: different city where those cars will stand out. It's different

1171
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 4: than being in a Miami or in l a or

1172
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: even a New York for that matter. So it's a

1173
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 4: little different.

1174
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: But what do you garage that thing? I mean, what

1175
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: do you park it?

1176
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Cincinnati would be very short on

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00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: the other city. I mean, you bring that car down

1178
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: town Miami, you know, and you're going for a restaurant

1179
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: to come out, the car won't be there.

1180
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: I'm sure, what do you do?

1181
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 3: Vallet in the car?

1182
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: You know what your ballet. I'm driving that I think

1183
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: about the ballet.

1184
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you're laying and you're open that he's not

1185
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 3: going for a joy ride beach in it. But no.

1186
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: But here's I think the bigger concern would be in Cincinnati,

1187
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 4: because you guys do get inclement weather. I wouldn't want

1188
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 4: the batmobile dealing with snow and salt and that stuff.

1189
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to deal with it. But

1190
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 3: that's where he is.

1191
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: And so like I get it, childhood fantasies, childhood fantasies.

1192
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's great to hear this from you

1193
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: because you played the game, all right. I watched the game.

1194
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: I was close to the game, but I never played

1195
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: the game. So the mindset's a little different. And look,

1196
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: I like Joe Burrow. I like to see him do well.

1197
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: I feel bad that he led the league in so

1198
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: many categories as a pair so last year and he

1199
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. That's gotta eat your heart out, really,

1200
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, he and Jamar Chase, I mean, probably the

1201
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: best one two offensive combination in the game of football

1202
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: today and they didn't make the playoffs.

1203
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: That to me distincts.

1204
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: It's do it you know, if you would have told

1205
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: somebody I just showed them the stats after the season,

1206
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you would have thought that that team certainly was a

1207
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: playoff team.

1208
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 2: But you know, it didn't happen. So Joe.

1209
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: I wish Joe the best, but I just think some

1210
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: of the things that he says and does, you know,

1211
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: can be analyzed a little bit and questioned, because it's just,

1212
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, get get back on the main road of

1213
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: the highway, not on the side road.

1214
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

1215
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: You on the main road the highway. Yes, yes, get

1216
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: in the center lane. You're right, You're right, You're absolutely right.

1217
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 4: When it goes to that, like he needs to kinderstand

1218
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: his lane, and if he stays in his lane, good

1219
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: things have happened.

1220
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: So I understand, I understand where you're at right now.

1221
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: I want to get back to your guy, Dion Sanders.

1222
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: We touched them a little earlier today and a couple

1223
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: of things. We talked about the nil he wants to

1224
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: salary cat that's fine, but he says he wants to

1225
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: see some standards now for college uniforms. We talk about

1226
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: what Joe Burrow wears when he's not warning uniform the

1227
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: back of suit. But Deon Sanders he wants to see

1228
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: some standards out there, and he says, there are guys

1229
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: out there in biker shorts, all right, he said, it

1230
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: makes him sit because I'm a football guy. I played

1231
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: the game at a high level. I have so much

1232
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: respect for the game. How can we allow guys out

1233
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: there and biker shorts, no knee piss? What the hell

1234
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: is he talking about. I don't think I've never seen shorts.

1235
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, they have been like so, what has happened?

1236
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: When I was playing, let's say nineties to the two

1237
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 4: thousands era, you're pants, your uniform pants had to come

1238
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: toward certain depth. They had to come, they would say,

1239
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: below the knee. And then they've started to come above

1240
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 4: the knee. And now guys are taking it where they

1241
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 4: literally almost mid thigh. And what Dion wants is it's

1242
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 4: funny knowing him. He wants uniformity because he wants professionalism.

1243
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: What you have is you have all these different guys

1244
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 4: that are wearing the uniform and it doesn't look right.

1245
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: The NFL does not go for that at all. If

1246
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: you look at the NFL, the NFL has on you

1247
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 4: about your socks. Your socks have to come all the

1248
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 4: way up to your knee. Your uniform pants have to

1249
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: go to the knee. There's a uniformity when you look

1250
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: at an NFL team, Every team looks alike when it

1251
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 4: comes to what they allow.

1252
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: College. You don't have that.

1253
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: And if you're talking about selling the sport, even from

1254
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: a professional standpoint, broadcast to whatever uniformity is right.

1255
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: Like think about the military.

1256
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: There's a reason why the armed forces they wear they

1257
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 4: wear uniforms and they're distinguishing. There's a professionalism and an

1258
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 4: aura that comes with it. DM wants that for the

1259
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 4: guys in the sport. He wants a certain cachete that

1260
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 4: comes with being in uniform.

1261
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: You know, you make a great point then, you know,

1262
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: for those that aren't familiar with that. My good buddy

1263
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: David Fulchen, who played for the Cincinnati Bengals, he's part

1264
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: of the court uniform police. He would stand on the

1265
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: sidelines of Cincinnati Bengal games at home and fine, you know,

1266
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: right up the guys who didn't have their socks, I guess,

1267
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, the uniform, you.

1268
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: Don't have your socks up, you don't have your your jersey,

1269
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 4: then yeah, one hundred percent, you don't have. Yeah, your socks,

1270
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: not pulled up, pants, not pulled over the knees, you

1271
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: don't have.

1272
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 5: Uh.

1273
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: You put extra alterations to your helmet and things that

1274
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 4: are not in there. When you walk into an NFL

1275
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: locker room, there's a big poster on the wall that

1276
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 4: shows this is how you should be properly attired, and

1277
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: it goes through it and anything that you do that

1278
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 4: is different from that picture, you're subject to a fine

1279
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 4: and the finds are significant. So when Dion talks about

1280
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 4: being a pro and coming from the pro game, he

1281
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: wants that because he seeks comfort in the uniformity that

1282
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 4: his team should have. If you know, Deanna, if you

1283
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 4: watch anything behind the scenes, he's very particularly about what

1284
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 4: color socks his guys wear. If he says everyone wears

1285
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 4: black socks and someone wears white socks, he throws them

1286
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: out the weight room. You know, like, that's about being

1287
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: a part of the team. And when you do those things,

1288
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: you're being an individual. You're not being a good teammate,

1289
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: you're not being a part of a team. And I

1290
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: know we're in a me me me phase of life,

1291
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: but it has to be bigger than you. It has

1292
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 4: to be about the team.

1293
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I love that about the NFL,

1294
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: and he wants to have that in college. But when

1295
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: I watch the NBA, I guess everybody's got different sneaker

1296
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: deals and sometimes I see guys with different colored shoes,

1297
00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: not even different.

1298
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 4: It drives me crazy. It drives me crazy. It drives

1299
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 4: me crazy.

1300
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy. I'm not a fan me either.

1301
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: And back in the day when the Boston Celtics were

1302
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: all black high top Converse, that that was.

1303
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: You know, do you ever see that anymore? Really?

1304
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: And I once read up on that scene. You know

1305
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: why did the Boston Celtics always wear black Converse? They said,

1306
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: because the white ones got dirty and then didn't have

1307
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: enough money to buy them new shoes, so they bought

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Speaker 1: they were black. That's why they were black Converse high top.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: That's smart, you know, yeah, but that's the way it was.

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Speaker 4: And you're right, it's funny that you brought up the

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Speaker 4: Boston Celtics because that was a big part of the thing.

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Speaker 4: But let's go back, because you're in Cincinnati. Let's think

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Speaker 4: about the big Red machine. And I know, we're taking

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00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: everybody into wayback machine. But the Cincinnati Reds used to

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Speaker 4: wear black shoes. I remember Johnny Bench and those guys.

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00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: Like even the logo whatever, the little baseball the running

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00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: baseball man that they used to have as the logo

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00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: had black shoes on. That was a big part of

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Speaker 4: who they are. The A's were different because they were

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Speaker 4: one of the only teams that wore white shoes.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's right.

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Speaker 4: The uniformity of everything, you know, and I think people

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Speaker 4: appreciate that and the Yankees and the traditions. No matter

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Speaker 4: what we say, I think the overwhelming majority of the

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Speaker 4: public appreciates tradition and they like seeing the uniform and

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00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 4: all those things. Because if we didn't believe in the uniform,

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Speaker 4: why with so many workplaces required that you have a uniform.

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Speaker 3: That's who we are inherently, right.

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Speaker 1: That's why kids go to Catholic school because they wear

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: a uniform. Really, I mean, because everybody's the same, no

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Speaker 1: one's different, no one's better than anybody else.

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Speaker 2: The old ways.

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Speaker 1: Uniforms in the Catholic high schools, right, that's what they do. Right, last,

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Speaker 1: but not least with this thing at DeAnza and I

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00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: kind of like this if in fact, the college football game,

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00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: at least on the Division IE level, you know, at

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00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: the highest level, college football is kind of a training

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: ground for the NFL. He'd like to see the rules

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00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: in college where two feet in bounds in order for

1341
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: a cash to be counted, not the one foot that

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00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: the college and I don't understand why they don't do that.

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Speaker 1: I think they should, don't you think if it's almost

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Speaker 1: like a training ground for the NFL.

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Speaker 4: It is, you know, it's it's funny that they don't.

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01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 4: They don't have that, they don't have the uniformity, like

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 4: the rules are still different. I think in the college

1348
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Speaker 4: getting the reason why you have the one foot is

1349
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: you're trying to increase scoring.

1350
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: You try to make it a better product.

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01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 4: So putting one foot down lessons the degree of difficulty

1352
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 4: on the pass catcher. That's what it comes down to.

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01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 4: It's about increasing scoring. A lot of those rules are

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01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 4: designed for that.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: All right with that, I'll let everybody know. You can

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Speaker 1: videos on YouTube. You know, Bucky, I just heard Stevie

1386
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Speaker 1: Wonder one of my favorite It really is. And this

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01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, I know, but I gotta tell you because

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01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: you'd appreciate this. August the seventh, I believe August seventh

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Speaker 1: or eighth, that's a Thursday night. The Four Tops and

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01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: Temptations are coming to Cincinnati, and I can't wait because

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Speaker 1: the Four Tops, to me, my favorite group. We're Levi Stubbs,

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Speaker 1: the late Levi Stubbs, and you know I was a

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Speaker 1: kid and they performed in Brooklyn on Flatbush Avenue. I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. I want what a couple of buddies. It

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01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: was five bucks to get in to see him and

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01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: you got two drinks. That's how long ago this was.

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Speaker 1: And I love the Fourth Tops. I want to see them.

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01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: So this is what I did. I know, it sounds

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01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: real stupid. There's a guy and you know, and we

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Speaker 1: talked about a Mason from Detroit. He's on in the

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01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: mornings on Sirius XM and I listened to him, and

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Speaker 1: on Saturdays he does a show with Levi Stubbs Son

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Speaker 1: and from the Rock and Roll from from the Motown

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Speaker 1: Museum in Detroit. So I wrote to Mason, I write,

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01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: and Mason never wrote me back, but I wrote Mason wrote,

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01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: and I said, you got to help me out because

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01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: I want to see the Fourth Tops, and and I went,

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01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: maybe he thought there was something wrong with me. Not

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: only do I want to meet them and see them,

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01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 1: I want to go on stage and sing a song

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Speaker 1: with them. That's what I want them to do. So

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01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: maybe he'll still write me back or not. But I'm

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Speaker 1: going to see them and I want to see them.

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Speaker 1: But if I do sing with the Tops, I will

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Speaker 1: let you know. I'll let you know, Buck, Okay, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Let you sing with the Tops, Bernadette.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to sing.

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Speaker 1: With them, So we'll see. Then we move on. All right, Yeah,

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01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: you or Nate coming up in about ten minutes. All right,

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01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: you probably think I'm nuts. I know you're stunned. Now

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Speaker 1: you're not even mentioning a word, You're not saying a thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what to say. I mean

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Speaker 4: a little thing about you went on the way back.

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Speaker 4: We see you talking about the Four Tops, So I

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01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 4: was just letting you have your moment.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I mean, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be one of those guys that you know,

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Speaker 1: just talks about back then.

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Speaker 2: But you know they were great. I mean you talk

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Speaker 2: about the Fourth Tops.

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, I think they are, you know,

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Speaker 1: iconic really, I mean every if you know music, you

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01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: know the Fourth Tops, you know Stevie Wonder, These these

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Speaker 1: are the groups I grew up with.

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Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 1: So what can I tell you? Earth Wind and Fire

1437
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: all those books. We move on, but we talk about

1438
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Speaker 1: what you do. And you write about NFL dot com

1439
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: and you did a good one this week. And I

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Speaker 1: got to ask talk about the training camps opening about

1441
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: about fifteen sixteen days now, and you talk about guys

1442
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: that are going to jump from the role player to

1443
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: a key contributor. Now, he is my question bigger. You're

1444
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 1: so smart doing this kind of stuff. And I don't

1445
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: know how you do it. But anybody who's drafted, I

1446
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: would believe, would think they are quote a key contributor,

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: and it probably hurts them dearly that when they are drafted,

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Speaker 1: they become a role player, Am I correct? I mean

1449
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: you don't want to be a role player, you want

1450
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Speaker 1: to be a key contributor.

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01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 4: I mean you never really want to be a role

1452
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 4: player per se, Like you want to be able to

1453
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Speaker 4: jump in there.

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Speaker 3: But we all have to play a role.

1455
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Speaker 4: I think the thing is the best guys start in

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Speaker 4: their roles like they have a way of being able

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01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 4: to make their mark, make an impact in whatever that

1458
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 4: role is. So going from being a lesser ran to

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Speaker 4: a guy that you can count on their production, a

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 4: guy that you can count on to be in the

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01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 4: mix and always not only they're and available, but in

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Speaker 4: the mix and able to contribute at a high level.

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Speaker 3: That's the next step.

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 4: And normally people make the biggest jump from their first

1465
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 4: to second year in the league because now you've been

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01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 4: in the league, you had a taste of you know,

1467
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 4: the speed of the game is, You're not to prepare

1468
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 4: or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The second year, you should be able to play and

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: play at a high level. So that's the expectation with

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Speaker 3: a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 1: All right now, how do you know who's going to

1473
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: make that jump? And you said that there were a

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: couple of players last year that you kind of were

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01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: right on spot on that they did make that jump.

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01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: Who were the ones from last year that you picked

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Speaker 1: that would make the jump from roll to key a

1478
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: year ago?

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Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigbu was a guy that you know,

1480
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 4: I thought that he would have more opportunities and would

1481
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 4: have a chance to play well. I thought Bryce Young

1482
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 4: would eventually get a turn in the right direction, and

1483
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 4: we saw at the end of the year he started

1484
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 4: to warm well and make some contributions. A lot of

1485
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 4: times if you're looking at their situation and circumstance, and

1486
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 4: did the team clear a path for those players to

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01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 4: be able to play, meaning did they create opportunities where

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 4: they removed a veteran, they opened up the starting position,

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01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 4: they said, we're committed to putting the gawn in the

1490
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 4: field and we're gonna let him play, come hell of

1491
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 4: high water. Sometimes you need that clear pathway to be

1492
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 4: able to get on the field to help you become

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01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: the player that you want to be.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some of the players that

1495
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: you think will be key players this year. And let's

1496
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: go with the quarterback position, because everybody loves quarterbacks and

1497
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: probably the most important position not only in the NFL,

1498
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: but in all sports. And you looked at I think

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Speaker 1: it was Michael Pennox junior for the Atlanta Falcons, and

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Speaker 1: you know he got.

1501
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Speaker 2: A break last year.

1502
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, go back to that Netflix thing with quarterbacks.

1503
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins had that Atlanta team at six and three.

1504
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean he was on a roll. I mean everybody

1505
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: caused bad mouthing Kirk Cousins, thirty six, He's finished, no,

1506
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: And then he played the New Orleans Saints and it

1507
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: got hit in the shoulder and now is the end

1508
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: of it. He even admitted after the game that he

1509
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: couldn't even lift his elbow up. And then he started

1510
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: throwing the I on t's like candy canes.

1511
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 2: He really was. It was great.

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01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: And then they went down the cropper. So Michael Penni's

1513
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: got a break when Kirk Cousins got hurt. But to me,

1514
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: does Kirk Cousins automatically lose his starting job because of that?

1515
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: Yes, it's over. Is Michael Pennix era.

1516
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 4: And if they could get rid of Kirk Cousins, they

1517
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 4: would get rid of him. But it's the Michael pennis ere.

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Speaker 4: They drafted him because they believed that he had the

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01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 4: potential to really do great things in there, and I

1520
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: think when you look at the weapons around him at

1521
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 4: Drake London, Darnielle Mooney, did two running backs, b Jhon Robinson,

1522
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 4: Tyler jer Kyle Pitts, who they put a top five

1523
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 4: pick in as a tight end. They have a lot

1524
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 4: of firepower around him. He doesn't need to be perfect.

1525
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 4: He just needs to be precise in the things that

1526
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 4: they're asking him to do.

1527
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 3: And if he's.

1528
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: Proficient throwing the ball and doing those things, the numbers

1529
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 4: that come out, expect the numbers to come in and

1530
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 4: bunches this year.

1531
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: Though, Well, look, I would say this, I would not

1532
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: be surprised if Kirk Cousins comes off the bench then

1533
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: because this guy and I don't wish him any harm.

1534
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: But Pennix only started three games. Is a small sample size.

1535
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: I really believe that, and who knows what's gonna happen.

1536
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: He does have tremendous people around him with Drake London

1537
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: and Kyle Pitch, no doubt, and a good running game

1538
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: in Robinson. But I'm not sold. I'm not sold on

1539
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix Junior yet. And remember he's not a kid.

1540
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: He's a twenty five or twenty six, isn't he? So

1541
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on him. And I'm a Kirk Cousins guy.

1542
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: You know, the more I see Kirk Cousins on TV

1543
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: with these shows like HBO, Hard Knocks and the Netflix deal,

1544
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm in love with the guy. I'm pulling for Kirk Cousins,

1545
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: and I think he's a hell of a teammate. And

1546
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: if he doesn't start, I think he'll do everything possible

1547
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: to help Michael Pennock Junior. Now, last year they lost

1548
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: the game. I think they lost to Tampa and after

1549
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: the game, he went over and he just congratulated the

1550
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: players on Tampa. You don't see that. I mean, I

1551
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: just think he's got a hell of a heart. I

1552
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: love Kirk Cousins, I do.

1553
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 3: I think you've fall in for the story. I think

1554
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 3: he's done a really good job.

1555
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 4: I think that's why Netflix has those things, so you

1556
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 4: fall in love with the narrative in the story and

1557
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousin. Yeah, Kirk Cousins has lured you in with

1558
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 4: his personality and he's such a good guy whatever. But Andy,

1559
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 4: he's not been great. He didn't play well. He had

1560
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 4: that stretch. We had one touchdown and nine interceptions. He

1561
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 4: had to go sit on the pine. You get to

1562
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 4: sit down. You should have told people that he rather

1563
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 4: put that up, because yeah, like he has to do it.

1564
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 4: He's trying to play through it and he's terrible and

1565
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 4: they're losing games because of that. So in a way

1566
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 4: it's a selfish move. But he didn't play well. He's

1567
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: coming off to Achilles. And you talked about Michael Pennis

1568
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 4: being twenty five. Kirk Cousins is thirty seven. He's an

1569
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 4: old man. He's an old man trying to play and

1570
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 4: without his athleticism or anything like, it becomes a much

1571
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 4: harder job when you have a statue in the pocket.

1572
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: Can I change the tobough for us? Say you tell

1573
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 1: me about old men. I went to a minor league

1574
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: baseball game last night in Florence, Kentucky, the Florence Yawls,

1575
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: all right, and they got a thirty six year old

1576
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,879
Speaker 1: guy who are playing in the minor leagues for thirteen

1577
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: years and his name is Craig Massey and he got

1578
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,520
Speaker 1: his one thousandth career hit last night. Is at thirteen

1579
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: years in the minor leagues. So I'm gonna do a

1580
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: little piece on him, a story on him. I asked

1581
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: him the question. I said, here's a question for you.

1582
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: Would you rather get a thousand hits after thirteen years

1583
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,440
Speaker 1: in the minors or would you rather get one hit in.

1584
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: Major League baseball?

1585
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 9: And boom?

1586
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 2: What did he say?

1587
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: I want to I thought to be in the majors

1588
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: to get one hit. That's because the right, of course, that's.

1589
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: What you want to do. But the dreams.

1590
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: He's thirty six years old still playing minor league baseball.

1591
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

1592
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 3: That's the dream is the dream.

1593
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 4: The dream is to go out there and to be

1594
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 4: able to play and compete at a high level.

1595
01:10:58,439 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 3: That's the dream. So I understand it.

1596
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: Crazy, All right, back, we got the quarterback. You got

1597
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: Michael PENNOCKX. I'm circling Michael Pennockx's name. You say he's

1598
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a role player right now? All right? Not

1599
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: a role player, key player? Okay, what about the running

1600
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: back position? What do you got going on there?

1601
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 5: Well?

1602
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: Running back, I mean you have Tyrone Tracy from the

1603
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 4: Giant Giant who yes, yeah, I mean he stepped up.

1604
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 4: He had eight and rushing yards last year. Look, he

1605
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 4: had big shoes to field. Saquon Barkley is a monster,

1606
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 4: and he had to step in for Saquon. Now he

1607
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 4: can't give them what Saquon gave them, particularly when Saquon

1608
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 4: Barkley's going nuts around the way in Philadelphia. But look,

1609
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 4: this is a really good player. This is someone everyone

1610
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 4: has to understand. He was a former wide receiver turned

1611
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 4: running back and he didn't make that conversion until right

1612
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 4: before his last year going to produce. So this is

1613
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 4: someone who's still learning the position. So think about that

1614
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 4: two years in the game. You've played the position for

1615
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 4: those two years, but you've already almost close to get

1616
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 4: a thousand yards rushing. There's a lot that he can

1617
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 4: that he can do, and in the passing he should

1618
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 4: be able to help Russell Wilson should be able to

1619
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 4: find him early and often targeting the running back out

1620
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,879
Speaker 4: of the backfield. A lot of attention on my Leiku neighbors,

1621
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 4: but this guy, Tyn Tracy should be able to impact

1622
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 4: the game as a runner end receiver.

1623
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: Do you honestly think the Giants can make some noise

1624
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: this year with Russell Wilson? Could they do anything that?

1625
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 3: I mean?

1626
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 4: I think if they are able to play a certain way,

1627
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 4: and the way they have to play is the way

1628
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 4: the Giants have traditionally played. Great defense, fron the ball,

1629
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 4: some efficient play from the quarterback. Defensively, they got some

1630
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 4: talent where they can get after it Ken Shane Bowen

1631
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 4: and unlock it.

1632
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 3: That's the key. And then Brian day.

1633
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 4: Ball, what we're gonna do at quarterback with Russell Wilson

1634
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 4: and eventually Jackson Dark. What are we gonna do, How

1635
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 4: we gonna get him going, How we're gonna get this

1636
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 4: offense to move the ball consistently?

1637
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 3: That's the meaning other question.

1638
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Russell Wilson, you know, I think his better

1639
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: days are behind him.

1640
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 2: Number one.

1641
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: You know, he was always able to elude the rush,

1642
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: but I think that's caught up to him right now

1643
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: because he's not a kid. And I just don't think

1644
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: you build a team with a Russell Wilson. You don't

1645
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: build a team with an Aaron Rodgers. I just don't think,

1646
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: Like in the NBA, you're not going to build a

1647
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: team with Lebron You don't build a team around the

1648
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: guy who's forty one years of age.

1649
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 3: You just don't m m m, Yeah, I mean, I mean,

1650
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think he can do it.

1651
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 4: I think he gives them maybe some solid ability to

1652
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 4: do some limitations, but it depends on how Brian day

1653
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 4: Ball runs the team in terms of like, how are

1654
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 4: they managing the game to win the game? Can they

1655
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 4: play defense, can they run it? Can they be ball

1656
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 4: control at the possession centric on offense and then find

1657
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 4: a way to get it done. If they can do that,

1658
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 4: they can win some games. There'd be a bunch of

1659
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: close games, but they can do it. In fact, it's

1660
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 4: really the blueprint and formula that he used with Daniel

1661
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 4: Jones when they went to the postseason.

1662
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,520
Speaker 3: His first year. Very conservative.

1663
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 4: They did some creative things in the run game to

1664
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 4: move the ball, but they leaned on the defense. They

1665
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 4: didn't turn it over, and they won a bunch of games.

1666
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 4: Uh at the end of games by being able to

1667
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 4: close it out in the fourth quarter.

1668
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 3: Maybe they can get back to that.

1669
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: Well, let's hope. So I think New York needs a

1670
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: decent football team. The Jets stink and the Giants haven't

1671
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: done anything. So we'll see what happens. He's Bucky Brooks.

1672
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Firming. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

1673
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: Sports ready to go upward, down, left or right, yay

1674
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: ornay And it's next yay ornay coming right up. He's

1675
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firmer. We have Fox Sports Sunday,

1676
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: and Fox Sport's already about thirteen minutes before the top

1677
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: of the hour. We're lying on the Fox Sports radio

1678
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: studios and away we go. It's time for yay or nay.

1679
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,879
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get rack those brains, gentlemen.

1680
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 9: These stories needed ask I think we need a ruling

1681
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 9: on this yay or nay?

1682
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: Who's that laugh? And what was that?

1683
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: Who was that was that?

1684
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: You know that?

1685
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 9: Actually part of that that one, I don't know what

1686
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 9: that is. That wasn't me.

1687
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: It wasn't me. That's all right, pata.

1688
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, going alrighty well, d little dumper report for duty.

1689
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 5: Let's go. So with that said, guys, it's time for

1690
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 5: yay or nay. I got one for us. So we

1691
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 5: remember the Adrian Peterson remember he kind of got new

1692
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 5: a fight with the at a poker game.

1693
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 9: What was it, maybe about a month ago? Well, I

1694
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 9: have an update to this and it's a yay or

1695
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 9: nay for this.

1696
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 5: So Adrian Peterson actually signed for a celebrity boxing match

1697
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 5: just recently with whom the guy he fought over the

1698
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 5: poker game.

1699
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 9: His name's Joe Cassenata.

1700
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 5: He signed he's gonna have a celebrity boxing match with

1701
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 5: the guy he fought over a poker game.

1702
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 9: Yay or nay on this, Andy Furman, I.

1703
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: Think it's yay because now he's got a recent to fight.

1704
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. I just hope it's on TV.

1705
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: I want to see this on TV. But I do

1706
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: hope Joe beats still live in daylights out of him

1707
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: because Adrian Peterson beat.

1708
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: Up on his kids with a stick and that was wrong.

1709
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: Great football player, but that was you don't come on, really,

1710
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: you just don't do that. So I don't really, I

1711
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: don't forget that he had to stick deal with his kid.

1712
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: So that's the end of that.

1713
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 4: Oh well, yeah, I'm mentioned to see like agent Pieters

1714
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 4: to fight, but I think he's already been in the

1715
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 4: ring before. And if I'm not mistaken, I think he

1716
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 4: got dropped. I think he dropped maybe for Levy and

1717
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 4: Bell or something like that. But like I think we've

1718
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 4: seen we've seen these things before.

1719
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 2: You know who puts on TV?

1720
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 9: Though, that would be fun. I would I would watch

1721
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 9: that too.

1722
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 5: Speaking of watching this, we got MLB guy, so MB

1723
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 5: plans to use automated calls for calls for a balls

1724
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 5: and strikes and this year's All Star Game.

1725
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 9: Yay or nay on this, Bucky Brooks, I'm not a fan.

1726
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 4: I like the human element in things. I'm not really

1727
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 4: trying to have robots do everything. So I give it

1728
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 4: double thumbs down.

1729
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 1: I give it a name because I don't want to

1730
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: see people lose their jobs. And the umpires are going

1731
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: to lose their job, so that's a big time nay.

1732
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: And I'm good friends with a neighbor. Randy Marshall's right

1733
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: in here and be form an NL Major League umpire

1734
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: loose not far from me.

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01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 5: All right, Well, we're gonna move off from baseball. We're

1736
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 5: gonna go to the WNBA. So there are some Kaylin

1737
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 5: Clark rookie cards that are up for auction over let's see,

1738
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 5: let's do the math on this. Wow, one hundred and

1739
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 5: seventy thousand Jay or nay?

1740
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 9: Andy Furman, you.

1741
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: Gotta be out of your freaking mind? Are you kidding me?

1742
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't spend seven dollars, let alone one hundred and

1743
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: seventy thousand. I mean, why why, I want to see

1744
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: who's doing that. I want to see you get your

1745
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: head examined. It's crazy. Nay, it's crazy.

1746
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 4: I mean good for them, if they're paying it, I

1747
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 4: wouldn't fair, but like great, I like guys who are

1748
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 4: collectors and they have hobbies.

1749
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that.

1750
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 4: A little too rich for my taste, but great, great

1751
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 4: for them, unbelievable, wow.

1752
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 9: Oh great, great for them? Well what else is great?

1753
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 5: Here? We have ncublea so na says March madness. Expansion

1754
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 5: may balloon to seventy two or even seventy six teams,

1755
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 5: yeah or there in this Bucky Brooks.

1756
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 4: Not a fan. Too many teams already making I'm not

1757
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 4: a fan. It's just going water down to product because

1758
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 4: like I don't know we're doing. We're just gonna let

1759
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 4: every team go.

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm not a fan, I say, Nay, less

1761
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: is more stop than already seventy six teams. What's the

1762
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: point of having conference tournaments? I mean, really and truly

1763
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 1: even that's a joke. I mean you could win your conference,

1764
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: like in a smaller conference and not even go if

1765
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: you lose the conference tournament. I've sort of a couple

1766
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: of years ago north of Kentucky University. I think they

1767
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: won their conference. In the conference tournament, they lost at

1768
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: University of Milwaukee with a losing record, went to the

1769
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA. Come on, really, you know one time, buck,

1770
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: this was a tournament that proved the best team in

1771
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: college basketball. Now it's not. It's just a postseason tournament.

1772
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: But basically the best team doesn't normally win or usually

1773
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: Winny Big Time Day.

1774
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't like it. I'm not a fan.

1775
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 3: Boo boo boo.

1776
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 5: All right, well this one. Bear with me on this one.

1777
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 5: It's a bit of a long one, but I'll get

1778
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 5: us there, all right. So the Kelsey Brothers, we know them.

1779
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 5: They have a giveaway, but it's only open to US

1780
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 5: residents only.

1781
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 9: So what it is.

1782
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 5: It is a beer bed, which is it's kind of

1783
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 5: like a waterbed, only better. Comes with a standard queen

1784
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 5: size frame, a Casper mattress, and a cake that hooks

1785
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 5: up to the custom headboard. Customers can enter to win

1786
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 5: now through July fifteenth by leaving a comment on the

1787
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 5: apparently the beer Bed's Instagram post or by retweeting the

1788
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 5: announcement on x SO that said yay or nay on this,

1789
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 5: Andy Furman.

1790
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: Yay baby yay. Anything good for the Kelsey Brother's good

1791
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: for me. And I would love to have a beer bed.

1792
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: I'd sleep on it outside. But I guess you have

1793
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: to change the beer every now and again because it

1794
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: make it stale and stink.

1795
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1796
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works, but you know, I

1797
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: would like to have a beer bed and try it.

1798
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 3: Especially. I don't like this. Yeah like it.

1799
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a beer fan. I don't like beer

1800
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 4: smells nasty, so I'm good.

1801
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

1802
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: You know what, beer does smell nasty the next day

1803
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,799
Speaker 1: if you go to like a ballpark or some place

1804
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: that's congested, you know, not only do you stick to

1805
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: the floor, but has that smell. Sometimes you go to

1806
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: a baseball stadium after a night game. The next day,

1807
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, it smells, it really does. But why you're

1808
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: drinking beer during the moment? It doesn't really smell, it

1809
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: smell it's pretty good. I think, are you a beer drinker?

1810
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 5: There?

1811
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 9: A ld No, I'm with Bucky on this. I'm not

1812
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 9: a beer guy either.

1813
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 2: Drink beer?

1814
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 5: No? If I if I had a beer bed, I'd

1815
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 5: probably have to hold that next to my like Wizenator

1816
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 5: and all it's up to. That's just another collection, just

1817
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 5: another collection in my to my house.

1818
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: Was there a lot of beer in the locker rooms

1819
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: in in the NFL when you play Buck?

1820
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots, lots and lots and lots.

1821
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: All right, Well, quarterback says he was misled. We got

1822
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: that next right here on Fox. All right, it's all

1823
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: part of the business. We'll explain that in just about

1824
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: a minute. Welcome to Fox Sports Sunday at Fox Sports Radio.

1825
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Indy FIRMANI were procrasting live from

1826
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios in Areas. My partner, my friend,

1827
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: the one and only Bucky Brooks. How are you Buck?

1828
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: Our number three we're rolling today. We certainly are.

1829
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we certainly are. Man excited to be on, Andy.

1830
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1831
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: You know, I understand why there's some animosity and jealousy

1832
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: in sports, all right. I'm not one of those guys

1833
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: that jealous of anything. I mean, life is handed to

1834
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: people in certain ways. And you know, you were an

1835
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: athlete and I was a loser.

1836
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: I get it.

1837
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: That's the way it is, you know. But I was

1838
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: lucky enough to get involved in sports, but.

1839
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 2: I didn't play. That's the number one thing. But number two.

1840
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: I could see that because when we introduce the show

1841
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: every single week on the top of the hour, it's

1842
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: always five times NFL player Bucky Brooks and by the way,

1843
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: Andy Furman. You know, there's there's nothing attached to my

1844
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: name because basically I didn't do anything. If that's what

1845
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: it's all right, that's what That's.

1846
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1847
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: No serious, I mean when you're listening to the show,

1848
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: you're driving around in your car listening at the home

1849
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: and say, Wow, Bucky Brooks playing in the NFL five

1850
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: years and no, who's that who's that schmuck with him?

1851
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 1: And Andy Furman? Yeah, here's the guy that cleans up

1852
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: the studio after the show's over.

1853
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 3: You know.

1854
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: But that's you know, there's nothing attached to my name.

1855
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: But that's okay. But I bring that up not because

1856
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: of jealousy or envy. By bringing up as an example

1857
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: to show you that in the NFL there could be

1858
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 1: or in any sport there could be that jealousy and envy.

1859
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: I see it with Caitlin Clark. There's some envy. I

1860
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 1: could see it maybe where someone has a locker. I

1861
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 1: remember when King Griffy Junior played for the Cincinnati Reds,

1862
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: he had two lockers in the corner. And I think

1863
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: there are other players were a little p old, like,

1864
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: why does he get two lockers well with a refrigerator

1865
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: in it. That's the way it is. You know, certain

1866
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: people are blesseding, certain people are not. And I guess

1867
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying I'm not jealous. I promise

1868
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: you I'm not all right, but now I'm legend.

1869
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: I'm legend. I'm glad. Jealousy is not a big part

1870
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 3: of who you are.

1871
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: No, No, I wasn't born that way. I'm not jealous.

1872
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I find it. I think it's

1873
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: a treat and an honor to be working with you

1874
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: who played in the NFL, because I learned a lot

1875
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: from you. Really, I don't think you learn anything from me,

1876
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: but I don't think you have to. I mean, you

1877
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,879
Speaker 1: know everything, and I learn from you. You're the teacher.

1878
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm the student here, right.

1879
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: That's the way it is. Yes, Okay, now we move on.

1880
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Now it's time for the tire rack Play of the

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Speaker 2: Let's hear the play today.

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Speaker 5: Here's the pitch, swung on, hit high in the air, centerfield,

1885
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 5: and be who's going back?

1886
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Speaker 2: Does it have the distance?

1887
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1888
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Speaker 2: A magical moment.

1889
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1891
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 1: run was? Left field, right field? You know, really it's

1892
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 1: the theater of the mind radio. Tell me where it

1893
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Speaker 1: was at? Minnesota Twins Byron Buxton solo home run he

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Speaker 2: Should be and away we go. All right?

1903
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: Was I wrong criticizing that announce? I know who he is,

1904
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: but still an all it's far enough there music come on?

1905
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 3: Really, I mean, I mean it's good enough.

1906
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 4: I mean it's great to provide feedback, and that feedback

1907
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 4: is welcome because I didn't even think about it like

1908
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 4: him not doing it.

1909
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: But you are right. Radio is a theater of the mind.

1910
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 3: You have the tzy imagination.

1911
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 4: I grew up listening to basketball games in North Carolina

1912
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 4: listening to Woody Durham uh talking about gu tar heels,

1913
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 4: and a lot of what I learned about the game

1914
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 4: came from the radio announcer being able to really, uh

1915
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 4: give this vivid imagery on what was taking place on

1916
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 4: the court, and it made me want to get involved

1917
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 4: in the game because it's that. So, yeah, you're right,

1918
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 4: he does need to provide context and perspective and give

1919
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 4: us more because I don't have the luxury of being

1920
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 4: able to watch the TV or assume that I don't

1921
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 4: have the luxury of being able to see what you're saying.

1922
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: So you got to paint the picture for me.

1923
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: There you go, beautiful.

1924
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why he's with the trosh Ryland Radio

1925
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: networking that with Fox Sports Radio.

1926
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1927
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: Perhaps I don't know.

1928
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna I'm not

1929
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 3: gonna criticize the guy. I don't kill them.

1930
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: He's learning maybe that's a different deal.

1931
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a different deal. You're taking shots

1932
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 3: at him.

1933
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: Right, But the point is this, I don't think, you know,

1934
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily the radio announcers full I don't

1935
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of producers and or director's teaching

1936
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: people or people how to how to do their job.

1937
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: And now in this day and age, I really believe that.

1938
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: And I think for fear of you know, feedback, you know,

1939
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: leave me alone. Look, I'll give you examples. I watched

1940
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: the evening news, the local evening news on TV. I

1941
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you do that as well, and some

1942
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: of these women come out there like they're half naked.

1943
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 1: Really if they really.

1944
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 3: Are, I don't, right, I mean, doesn't bother me out,

1945
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 3: that makes me more.

1946
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 2: But you don't see the national women do that, right

1947
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 2: the local ones.

1948
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Speaker 4: I mean sometimes, I mean sometimes you see it on

1949
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: like when it comes to sports or whatever. There's no

1950
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 4: doubt that like sex cenesses teased and may be encouraged

1951
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 4: on some networks as opposed to others.

1952
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 3: For sure.

1953
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: Right the local news, I'm saying right now, if I

1954
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: was the news director, I would say, could you just

1955
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, bring it in a little bit. I mean,

1956
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: we don't you look like you're going to the club,

1957
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: not delivering news in my living room. I just don't

1958
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: think it's proper. And maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm approved,

1959
01:26:59,040 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: maybe an old guy.

1960
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. The point is this.

1961
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: I think that you have to look professional, and when

1962
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: I look at the national news that comes on after,

1963
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: I don't see those women dressed like that. That's all

1964
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just don't And I think that in

1965
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: this day and age, you have to you know, even

1966
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: students going to school. You know, I think wearing a

1967
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: T shirt to school which says the name of a

1968
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: beer company on it is not the proper way to

1969
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: go to school. You know, I just don't think it is.

1970
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 3: You know.

1971
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: I know when I went to school, I had to

1972
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: wear a college shirt. I had to wear a shirt

1973
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 1: and tie until about eighth or ninth grade. You know,

1974
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a great way to learn. You get

1975
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 1: dressed knowing you're going to go there for a purpose.

1976
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: But you know, on the same token, some of these

1977
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: teachers are wearing jeans and T shirts too, So you know,

1978
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: the environment has to change if you want the results

1979
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: to change. That's all I'm saying right, and I think

1980
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: you will.

1981
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 3: Agree, and yeah, I'm with you on that.

1982
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 4: You're right. The environment has to change. If you're going

1983
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 4: to the circumstances to change, you have to do that.

1984
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 2: All right, we move on that. I'm not here the lecture.

1985
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just noticing things and.

1986
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 3: Just I mean a little bit. It's fine, it's fine,

1987
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 3: it's okay, it's okay.

1988
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 4: We criticized, we criticized the broadcast and for not give

1989
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 4: a perspective, we now have have taken the people to

1990
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 4: task for being inappropriately dressed on our local news channel.

1991
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure you give more more advice today. You just

1992
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 4: trying to teach you the next generation how they should perform.

1993
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: And if people are upset with that, I mean, well

1994
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: you gotta do is just google marve al, but google delate.

1995
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: Marty Glickman, this guy did New York Nick basketball and radio,

1996
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 1: and he would tell you exactly. He's at the top

1997
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: of the key, he goes to the left. God, he

1998
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: key paints the picture. You could close your eyes and

1999
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: see the game. That's what it's all about. And that's

2000
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: that separates the good guys and the great guys. Marty

2001
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: Glickman was great, Marv Albert was great, Spencer Ross. These

2002
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: are the guys I grew up with. These guys were

2003
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: great announcers, and there's a handful of guys that just

2004
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: do it. But they're not in the same class as

2005
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: those guys. That's all I'm saying. And I say this,

2006
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: nothing's guaranteed. Nothing in life is guaranteed, even in the NFL.

2007
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it actually in the NFL or all of sports.

2008
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Someone needs to tell that to Kurk Cousins. Okay, let's

2009
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: listen to what he had to say on that Netflix right. Really,

2010
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: it's like a Kirk Cousins love fest today. But let's

2011
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: see what Kirk Cousins had to say on quarterbacks on Netflix.

2012
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Kirk.

2013
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Speaker 6: I wasn't expecting us to take a quarterback so high.

2014
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 2: At the time.

2015
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 6: It felt like I had been a little bit misled,

2016
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 6: or certainly if I had the information around freegency, it

2017
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 6: certainly would have affected my decision. I had no reason

2018
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 6: to leave Minnesota with how much we loved it there

2019
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 6: if both teams are going to be drafting a quarterback high.

2020
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 6: But I've also learned in twelve years in this league

2021
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 6: that if you're not entitled anything. It's all about being

2022
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 6: able to earn your spot and prove yourself.

2023
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: Well, he was small enough to realize that you're not

2024
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: entitled to anything.

2025
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: That was a Kurt on the Quarterbacks series on Netflix,

2026
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: and he said he might have resigned with the Vikings

2027
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: if he knew the ful because we draft the quarterback

2028
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 1: in the first round.

2029
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 2: Why the hell would they draft the quarterback of the

2030
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: first round?

2031
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 7: Buck?

2032
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 1: A quarterback eight was available number two, He's thirty six

2033
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: years of age, three's coming off Achilles surgery.

2034
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they draft the quarterback? Really?

2035
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 4: Well, I mean you said all those things, but also

2036
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 4: maybe they viewed him as a descending player, meaning the

2037
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 4: declining player, a player who's not gonna get back to

2038
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 4: the heights that he wants was able to get to.

2039
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 4: And let's be honest, Kirk Cousins has done a lot

2040
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 4: of great individual things. He hasn't done anything spectacular as

2041
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 4: a team leader. I mean they haven't won significant games,

2042
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 4: they haven't won the big win in Minnesota or any

2043
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 4: other previous spots. He hasn't led a team to a

2044
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 4: super Bowl run or even a championship run. So I

2045
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 4: understand individually, Kirk Cousins has done a lot of terrific stuff,

2046
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 4: solid career, Pro Bowl career, But I do understand if

2047
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 4: you're a team that wants championship aspirations, you're always looking

2048
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 4: for the guy that can compete with the likes of

2049
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,600
Speaker 4: Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes and some of the great quarterbacks,

2050
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 4: and at this stage of his career, Kirk Cousins can't

2051
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 4: do that unless he has a super team behind him.

2052
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a couple of things about Kirk Cousins.

2053
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: You know how much I love the guy. I love

2054
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: him as a person, as a family, whatever it may be.

2055
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: Number One, Statistically, he's almost on par with Dak Prescott.

2056
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: If you check out the stats, he and Dak press

2057
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Pat almost side by side with stats. All Right, that's

2058
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: number one. So he's not a bad quarterback. He's a

2059
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 1: good NFL quarterback, a functionable quarterback where you could win

2060
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 1: with the guy you can and the Minnesota did win

2061
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: with the guy that's number one. Number Two, Over the years,

2062
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: I've learned maybe one thing, and maybe you can help

2063
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: me out with this. Statistically and skill wise, you know,

2064
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 1: you got to have the skill to be a quarterback,

2065
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: but more than that, you have to have the personality.

2066
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's a leader. I think he's

2067
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: more of a geek. To be honest with you, I

2068
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: think he's a geek, and I've seen him on TV,

2069
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: even in the locker room. He comes across as a geek.

2070
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: The players love him. He tries to dance with them,

2071
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 1: and it doesn't Kurt, don't do the dancing. Please, it's

2072
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: not you. You can't dance. Really, I can't dance, I

2073
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: admit it. Don't dance in the locker room with the guy.

2074
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: You look like a fool. But that's the point that

2075
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring out. He's not a leader, you know.

2076
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: As much as I can criticized Joe Burrow, he's a leader.

2077
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 1: He'll get in that whole. I think these guys respect him. Okay,

2078
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen a leader, Patrick Mahomes a leader. These guys

2079
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: are leader. Lamar Jackson, Oh my goodness, that guy's a leader.

2080
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Kirk Cousins is a leader, and I

2081
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: think that's a big, a big part of his quarterbacking.

2082
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: I guess picture that's not fulfilled and that's why he

2083
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: hasn't taken his teams maybe to the next level because

2084
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: he's had great player, he said, Jefferson on the team,

2085
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: and he's got great players around him, but he never

2086
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 1: was able to get out of that shell. Maybe because

2087
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: he wasn't a great leader.

2088
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 2: Could that be.

2089
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 3: I mean it could be.

2090
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 4: I mean he could be some of that. Some of

2091
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,560
Speaker 4: that is like the leadership part. Some of it is

2092
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 4: also like just being able to perform under pressure.

2093
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 5: You know.

2094
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 4: You remember there was this thing for the longest time

2095
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 4: about him in playoff games and how he didn't perform

2096
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 4: well and that playoff games, but primetime games, Monday night,

2097
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 4: Sunday night, those things like he would wilt under.

2098
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 3: The pressure in the spotlight.

2099
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 4: And maybe some of that still exists, because I will

2100
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 4: tell you that in the postseason, whatever you think Monday

2101
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 4: night and Sunday Night are is tenfold in the postseason

2102
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 4: when it comes to the pressure and what you feel

2103
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 4: he hasn't performed well in those moments.

2104
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, then you could go, Lamar Jackson has

2105
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: to perform well in the playoffs. Really, I mean, but

2106
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: you know that's what but that's what media people do.

2107
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: They say he hasn't perform well in the prime, in

2108
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 1: the big lights with the big that's bull.

2109
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: You know what, he won. He lost the game.

2110
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 1: He performs well, his team didn't perform well, and the

2111
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: other team performed better. It's a game, all right, Lamar

2112
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 1: Jackson did not choke under the bright lights. I promise

2113
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: you that it just happened to work out that way.

2114
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: He lost.

2115
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 6: But right, but.

2116
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 5: No.

2117
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 4: But what we have to do is like we got

2118
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 4: to be we got to call a spade of spade,

2119
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 4: and so when it doesn't go right, we have to

2120
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 4: talk about those things. Like when it doesn't go right,

2121
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 4: if you don't perform well, like we have to talk

2122
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 4: about it. We have to talk about, hey, why didn't

2123
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 4: he go right? Why doesn't he play at the same level.

2124
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 4: And we can provide context and perspective, but at the

2125
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 4: end of the day, you judge by how you perform

2126
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 4: in those moments. Quarterback or not. That's what it is,

2127
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 4: team game or not. The quarterback is the most important

2128
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 4: player on the team. We give him the ball every play,

2129
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 4: We pay him significantly more than everybody else, so he

2130
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 4: has to carry the burden of being able to lead

2131
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 4: the team to the promised land.

2132
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 3: And when you don't, we talk about you.

2133
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 1: Well, I would say this there are some players that

2134
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: just don't perform well in big time situations, and I'll

2135
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: get one of them. Clayton Kershaw. You're a Dodger fan,

2136
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: you know when it comes to the postseason.

2137
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 2: Is it bad luck? He hasn't performed well? It just

2138
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: happened that way? Is he a bad player?

2139
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 5: No?

2140
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean three thousand strikeouts. I mean may be the

2141
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 1: less left hander to ever do that, because no one's

2142
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: going to play as long as as he will, or

2143
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 1: others just don't play that long. Why the money's great

2144
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: and you have a short career, injury, whatever it may be.

2145
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: But some players don't play well under the bright lights,

2146
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: just as the way it is, which tells me what

2147
01:34:58,120 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 1: takes me to this situation.

2148
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 2: You're recruiting. You're a college recruiter right now. You're going

2149
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: after a kid.

2150
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Kid plays in high school and all of a sudden,

2151
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 1: you go into a high school game where it's taken

2152
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: maybe three hundred people in the stands on a Friday night,

2153
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: and you're going to take them to Michigan when there's

2154
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 1: one hundred and four thousand people. He may not be

2155
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 1: able to perform. He may have the skill set, but

2156
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: he may not be able to perform under the bright

2157
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 1: lights under one hundred four thousand people.

2158
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen that.

2159
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen guys that played in college situations

2160
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and going to the NFL and they kind of cringed

2161
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: under the big crowds. That happens, right, You can't practice that.

2162
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Speaker 1: It just you throw them out there for the first

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Speaker 1: time they look around, they go nuts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely that element to it, like

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01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 4: where you don't get what you need from them, and

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01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 4: everyone can have the pressure. There are a lot of

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01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 4: people who want to be given all of the accolades

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01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 4: and do all that other stuff, but they're not ready.

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01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 4: They're not ready for it, and so you have to

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Speaker 4: talk about you have to call him out on it, like,

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01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 4: hey man, your guy can't hand the press.

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01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't do it.

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01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 4: And you have to understand who those people are. And

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01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 4: you have to try and make the game as simple

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01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: as you can form.

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01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 3: But every night, everybody's not built to be a prime

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Speaker 3: time performer.

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Speaker 1: See, I'm amazed. And you may remember this guy. I

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Speaker 1: remember John Brockington who played for Ohio State. I do remember, okay, yeah,

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01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 1: I remember he played for Thomas Jefferson High School in Brooklyn,

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01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: John the Rock Brockington, all right, when they high school

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01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: football in New York City is an anthrothelit I mean,

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01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: there's nothing really that comes out of New York. Every

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Speaker 1: once in a while they got a great player, and

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Speaker 1: Brockington was a great player, all right. And they don't

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01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: play at night like you know in Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio

2187
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: they played Friday a big deal on Friday nights. Right

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01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: in New York City they played ten o'clock Saturday morning

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01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,560
Speaker 1: in front of like thirty five people. Right, So I

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Speaker 1: was shocked that Brockington A was even recruited by Ohio

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01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: State and b goes to Ohio State where I have

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01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,719
Speaker 1: eighty ninety thousand people of the game, and he performed.

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01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: He didn't wilt under the pressure. So there are certain

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Speaker 1: people that could do that, but others can't. And if

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Speaker 1: I'm a college coach, one of the first questions I

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01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: have to say, look, you perform really well here under

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01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: the talent or lack thereof in New York City high

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01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: school football, can you perform at that level that we

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Speaker 1: play at at Ohio State and also in front of

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Speaker 1: the big crowds.

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Speaker 3: And he did.

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Speaker 2: That's a question. I think you have to ask these players, right.

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01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you got to ask him. I mean

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01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 3: you have to.

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01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 4: I mean you have to kind of gauge the temperature.

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01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 4: You have to see all of these different things about

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01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 4: them and check mental, maker performance, all that other stuff.

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01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 3: And you try and do it in a bunch of

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Speaker 3: different ways.

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01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,759
Speaker 4: But ultimately, and we can talk about all the stuff

2211
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 4: on the intake process, you're judged by your performance and

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01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 4: how you play. Like, ultimately it comes down to performance

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01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 4: and production in those moments. And you got to produce

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01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 4: in those moments.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what was it like with you? I mean in

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01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: your high school? Did they play at Friday nights or

2217
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 1: big crowds Friday football?

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01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 3: Loved it?

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01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 4: Like for me, I've always I've always loved the bigger

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01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 4: the crowd, the bigger the game for me, the better

2221
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 4: I performed. I fed off of the energy good or bad,

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01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 4: either being the evil empire, who the person who's in things,

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01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 4: who's hated, or being celebrated. Like I loved all of

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01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 4: that part of it, Like it got me excited. There's

2225
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 4: nothing more that I miss now and football is man,

2226
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 4: I missed a few different things.

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01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 3: I miss Sunday night games.

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01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 4: I miss Monday night games and I missed playoff games

2229
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 4: because that's when the entire world is watching. That's when

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01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 4: the pressure is at its highest. And to me, that's

2231
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 4: when you see who's who and what's what. That's when

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01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 4: you separate the good from from the greats in those moments.

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01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 4: And I loved that part of it. I still love

2234
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 4: seeing how people performing that in any sport. I love

2235
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 4: watching playoff baseball, hockey, basketball, because to me, that brings

2236
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 4: out the best in you if you can perform in

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01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 4: those moments.

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Speaker 2: And I bet that you have seen some people that

2239
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 2: have wilted in.

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Speaker 1: Those situations too, right, like people people do it, you

2241
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: don't perform like you don't always need one.

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01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 4: Namely, all make mistakes. Remember it's a team game where

2243
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,759
Speaker 4: we all make mistakes. But yeah, the pressure, the pressure

2244
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 4: can be a lot, you know what.

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01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 1: Honestly, you could say the same thing for our business.

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01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: You could see someone who knows a lot about sports

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01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 1: is a good, good talker, a good could communicate, but

2248
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: but you can play on the microphone, he wilts. Right,

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01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen that too, maybe right? I mean

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Speaker 1: in the NFL network, nice that were really talented and

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01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: know their stuff, and when the light goes on, they

2252
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: just start to schitz and they sweat and they can't

2253
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: get it done.

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01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like yeah, sometimes the light you can

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01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 4: read light comes on, the red light goes on, and

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Speaker 4: can you give me one name?

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01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 3: No, I don't have anything. I don't have anything. I'll

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01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 3: get it out of it, like the red light light.

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01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: Go head light id. All right, we'll get the name

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01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: out of you one day. All right, shortly after the show,

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01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 1: get off the courtesy of LD the Little Dumper. He

2269
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: does that for us, Yes he does. We love him

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01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 1: to death, Yes we do. By the way, we got

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Speaker 1: some questions, some big time questions to ponder. That's next,

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Speaker 1: all right, we need some answers. We'll get him in

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Speaker 1: just about a minute right here on Fox Sports Sunday, Hey, Bucky,

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01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 1: Brooks and many firmanent. We're live from the Fox Sports

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01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 1: radio studios and we're gonna have the blame game in

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01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: about ten twelve minutes from now, so don't go anywhere, really,

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01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 1: And uh, I got a couple of items I want

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01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: to clear up here with you, uh mister Brooks, And

2279
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: one of them was getting back to Kurt Cousins. He

2280
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: said he was aware the Falcons might draft a quarterback,

2281
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: but definitely not that high. Okay, or we get that

2282
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 1: he's kind of like in his own little world there,

2283
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,679
Speaker 1: but he says he wasn't informed about the Pennix pick

2284
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,799
Speaker 1: until a phone call by offensive courd that Zach Robinson

2285
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 1: while Atlanta was on the clock. They don't owe him anything, right,

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01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have to tell him're gonna draft

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01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I mean, maybe his agents should have been

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01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 1: smart enough to say, hey, Kurt, they may be drafted

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01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback pretty high.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think they did their part in terms

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01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 4: of giving them the common courtesy of the phone call

2292
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 4: before they took him. That's all the team is obligated.

2293
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 4: Hey man, just want to let you know before you

2294
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 4: see it scroll across the screen. We're gonna take Michael

2295
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 4: Pennis as a quarterback. YadA, YadA, YadA. He can be uncomfortable,

2296
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 4: he can be happy, But you've told him that's what

2297
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 4: you asked for. You asked, Hey, just tell me, just

2298
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,759
Speaker 4: let me know so I can deal with the regardless.

2299
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 4: They can make a decision that they want to make,

2300
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 4: but just let me know so I'm not blindsided. So

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01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 4: they gave him that, they gave him the Curtisy call.

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01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 4: He can't complain about it. The end of the day,

2303
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 4: is a team and the team is supposed to do

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01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 4: what's best for the team. And I know we have

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01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 4: kind of put quarterbacks on a pedestal where we believe

2306
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 4: it's a partnership between the quarterback and the team.

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01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 3: How it runs, it doesn't operate like that. There's no

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01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 3: other position that is like that. It's not one.

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01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 4: And in the twenty one other guys, every other player,

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01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 4: we've all had to deal with them drafting somebody at

2311
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 4: our position, and it becomes a competition. Quarterbacks have to

2312
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 4: get out of this thing where we expect them to

2313
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 4: run through their entire career without being challenged. This support

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01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 4: of the big boy league.

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Speaker 1: That's what you do, right, and the quarterbacks I gotta

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01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 1: believe have a lot of power. I mean, at least

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01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: the media has said that about Joe Burrow. They said

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01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow basically has control over the front over

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01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: cit of Cincinnati Bengals. I doubt I don't think he does,

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01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: but I gotta believe that he had some input on

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01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 1: the drafting of Jim R. Chase.

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Speaker 2: Was that played together at LSU he wanted Jim ar

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01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 2: Chase and they got him?

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01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 4: Or maybe I wouldn't say like necessarily that he went

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01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 4: out and said, hey, I wanted to mar Chase. More

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01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 4: likely that the team went to Joe Burron was like, hey,

2327
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 4: tell us about Ja Marchase, Like we're thinking about him.

2328
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 4: It's between him and Penney Sewell, if we got him,

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01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 4: how would he interact as he fed our culture?

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Speaker 3: Like what do you think about him?

2331
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 4: And they get that perspective, but they still make the

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01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 4: decision on their own, not necessarily because Joe Burrow wanted him,

2333
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 4: but if he advocates for him, it certainly is good.

2334
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 4: But you still don't make decisions because of players. And

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01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 4: I'll say this as a former player, like there has

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01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 4: to be a level of divide coaches, coach, scout scout

2337
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 4: players play like. You can ask that, but at the

2338
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 4: end of the day, there has to be a pecking order,

2339
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 4: a hierarchy in the organization because when you take someone

2340
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 4: that a player recommends and it doesn't go right, guess

2341
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,560
Speaker 4: who's going to get the blame and the fallout.

2342
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 3: The scouts and the team.

2343
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 4: And so the player can say whatever, but you take

2344
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 4: that in, but it better be something that you you

2345
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 4: want to do as a front office otherwise you have

2346
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 4: to answer for it. The player never has to answer

2347
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 4: for it. And that goes, I mean in so many

2348
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 4: different circles and so many different cycles.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because the media has brought into

2350
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 1: this Joe Burrow basically could do no wrong and look,

2351
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 1: he's great, He's done wonder for this football team. Although

2352
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 1: when you say wonders, what have they done? They haven't

2353
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: made the playoffs last two years. However, you know when

2354
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: the holdout with the t Higgins and Jamar Chase, he

2355
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: was very vocal, Joe, Joe was very, very vocal, and

2356
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: the media kind of brought in saying that, well, when

2357
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: Joe spoke the front office jump, I don't believe that.

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01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 1: You know, Mike Brown, who owns the Cincinnati Bengals has

2359
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 1: been a staunch defender of his beliefs for years. And

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01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, not signing contracts for players and

2361
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 1: letting him walk, and Carson Palmer got rid of him

2362
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 1: when Carson want to be here. I mean it's happened.

2363
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean Andrew Whitworth let him go. I mean things

2364
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: like that happen. So I can't believe that Mike Brown

2365
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: has changed since Joe Burrow has opened his mouth at

2366
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: various news conferences saying you better sign Jamar Chase and

2367
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 1: t Higgins. They signed them because these guys are valuable,

2368
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 1: and that was it. I don't think they signed it

2369
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:17,839
Speaker 1: because Joe Burrow said, let's.

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Speaker 4: Sign them, right, I would say that it helps the

2371
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 4: all right, So it helps to have the endorsement of

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01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 4: the franchise quarterback. You are when you're building your offense,

2373
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 4: you are building it with the quarterback in mind, and

2374
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 4: you're building it with what are the things that will

2375
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 4: help the quarterback play at his best? As Joe Burrow

2376
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 4: gains stature and influence or whatever like, he voices his opinion. Now,

2377
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 4: there is a partnership to some level in the league

2378
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 4: where offensive coordinator head coach or whatever you do, take

2379
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 4: the opinion of the hit. The quarterback has a little

2380
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 4: more weight, and so you're making decisions. You're like, look,

2381
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 4: he really likes both of these wide receivers, the kind

2382
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 4: of make it go okay. If we tell them, hey,

2383
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 4: if we do this, we can't have this left tackle whatever,

2384
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 4: are you okay with it? And he says, hey, put

2385
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 4: it on me, I'll get the ball out my hands quicker. Well,

2386
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 4: then you can trust him depending on what his track

2387
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 4: record has been. So yeah, he has some heavily influenced

2388
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,719
Speaker 4: and it is a bit of a partnership. But still

2389
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 4: the team better be okay resigning and paying the players

2390
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 4: that they pay pay because the criticisms falls to the team,

2391
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 4: right and.

2392
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm mistaken. But all the years that

2393
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 1: Tom Brady has had success in New England, I never

2394
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: heard him go public saying that the New England Patriots

2395
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 1: sign a player a certain player, did you? And he

2396
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: never really had the talent and wide receiver that Joe

2397
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: Burrow has right now, never really did, no.

2398
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 4: But what he also had was a defense that was

2399
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 4: lights out opposite him, Like the Patriots always played great

2400
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 4: defense and they were a team that operated a different

2401
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 4: they had they could get into a bunch of different

2402
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 4: systems and ways to play. When they had Randy Moss

2403
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 4: and Wes Welkin, those guys, they'd light them up. They

2404
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 4: were average, like thirty plus points and do it. When

2405
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 4: they didn't have those guys, they had the David Pattens

2406
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 4: and the Troy Browns and the Dion Branches of the world. Like,

2407
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 4: they did different things short intermediate control, passing game. They

2408
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,759
Speaker 4: could more if they could do a bunch of different

2409
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:20,919
Speaker 4: things to have success.

2410
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 3: So I understand it. I get it.

2411
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's that fine line between you want your

2412
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 4: players and your quarterback to be an advocate. But he

2413
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 4: can't hijack the franchise with his his thoughts right, and.

2414
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,679
Speaker 1: They lost so many games defensively last year. I don't

2415
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: see him advocating for the signing of Trey Hendrickson. You know,

2416
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 1: he was asked several times, and I think one of

2417
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 1: his answers was like, you know, well, last year we

2418
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 1: had two This year we only have one meeting. Last

2419
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 1: year he had Chase and Higgins dadd I could sign

2420
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: and they did. Now it's only Hendrickson, So I would

2421
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: think that he wanted to get Hendricks signed because again,

2422
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: they were terrible on defense last year and he was

2423
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: sort of the only bright spot.

2424
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:07,759
Speaker 2: He led the league in sacks.

2425
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's different though, right, So, so there are

2426
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 4: a few different ways to look at it, and you

2427
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 4: can look at it. What's the best way for us

2428
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 4: to be great on one side of the ball, because

2429
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 4: we can either be great on one side of the ball, we.

2430
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 3: Could be average on both sides of the ball.

2431
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 4: Well, I would rather have a team that is great

2432
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 4: in one area and oh me in the other area,

2433
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 4: because then you put the pressure on the great side

2434
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 4: of the team the offense.

2435
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 3: Hey man, every week, y'all got to.

2436
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 4: Put twenty eight on the board, Like, if you don't

2437
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 4: get twenty eight, then it's on you. We've built the

2438
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 4: team under the assumption that the offense is always going

2439
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 4: to get us twenty eight points. So I can't expect

2440
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 4: the defense to be a lockdown defense when I haven't

2441
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 4: committed those resources. The onus is on the offense to

2442
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 4: carry us. That's what happens. That's the conversation. Then the

2443
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 4: media everyone will be like defense is so weak, But

2444
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 4: I would say it should be different if they're losing

2445
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 4: games and the offense isn't hitting a certain number, you

2446
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 4: got to blame Joe Burron company because they are where

2447
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 4: the resources are, that's where the money is, that's where

2448
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 4: the greatness should be. If they don't play great each week,

2449
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:18,759
Speaker 4: they get the criticism more so than the defense.

2450
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 1: So what the Bengals have to do this year is

2451
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,839
Speaker 1: just score more points than the opposition.

2452
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of.

2453
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 1: An easy out because that's what you got to do

2454
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: to win any game.

2455
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 2: But they really have to score points big time. They're

2456
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 2: gonna win games like thirty four to thirty one this year.

2457
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:34,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's how the team is built.

2458
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 4: And I would say this, I want you to think

2459
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 4: about the Peyton Manning Indianapolis Colts and how they were constructed. Right,

2460
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 4: they were designed to jump out to a lead and

2461
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 4: then defensively hold on with the pass rushers and the

2462
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 4: coverage weighing you out in the fourth quarter. That would

2463
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 4: lead you to belief that why haven't they signed Tree Inderson.

2464
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 4: I don't know why they haven't sign Trey Henderson because

2465
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 4: typically if you're going to operate the way the Bengals

2466
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 4: operate high end offense, the only people that get paid

2467
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 4: on that defense are the two pass rushers. Everybody else

2468
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 4: is draft and develop expendable guy, and they were trying

2469
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 4: to do that with Hendrickson Denshamar Stewart, who didn't have

2470
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 4: the production but is the prototypical guy when it comes

2471
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 4: to the tools. You would like to have those two

2472
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 4: guys in the fold so you can win because the

2473
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 4: pass rushers can close the game out and salt away

2474
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 4: a thirty one to twenty seven win in Cincinnati.

2475
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 1: Let me throw something out there, and maybe this is

2476
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: way out of left field, but could it be perhaps

2477
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: there's a new defensive coordinator with Al Golden coming in.

2478
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't want hendricks And I doubt that's kind

2479
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 1: of a foolish thing to say, but I'm just grabbing

2480
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: its straws right now. Maybe why he hasn't been signed

2481
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 1: because Al Golden maybe doesn't believe in him because of

2482
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: his age. He's thirty one, and he'd rather develop player.

2483
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:52,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, is that a possibility.

2484
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 4: I would say that it's more likely not that Al

2485
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 4: Golden likes him, but more so that they don't want

2486
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 4: to pay him the length of the deal that he wants.

2487
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 4: Maybe he wants five years with more security in this

2488
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 4: and we'll give you two, maybe three, but we're not

2489
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 4: giving you that. I'm more likely to believe as the

2490
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 4: structure of the deal more so than the cash, because

2491
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 4: I think they like him enough to give him the

2492
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 4: cash that he wants.

2493
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong. I think there's enough.

2494
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: I think that thirty one years of age, you're not

2495
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: going to give a guy a three year deal, maybe

2496
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 1: maybe two with best Maybe wanted an option something like that.

2497
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 3: We'll see.

2498
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to go back to my

2499
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: Kirk cousins if I may, because he's on my mind now.

2500
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 2: I just can't start.

2501
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 1: As I said, he was six and three last year,

2502
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: and then as I mentioned, I want to defend them

2503
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: because everybody said, oh he was terrible. Look he got

2504
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: hit in the right arm against the Saints that game.

2505
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 1: I think it was defensive end Peyton Turner. And there

2506
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 1: was Week ten and then I was watching that quarterback

2507
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 1: thing on Netflix. He even said he knew something was

2508
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 1: wrong right then and there, immediately when he was hit

2509
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: and he said he felt ain't in his shoulder. And

2510
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: as soon as that happened, boom, the Falcons were right

2511
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 1: down the cropper.

2512
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 7: They did.

2513
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 1: They benched him in week sixteen and they didn't make

2514
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And then your guy Pennix came in there

2515
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: and say, you a guy because you said he's gonna

2516
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 1: be one of those guys going from like an old

2517
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 1: soon rant to a star. They were one and two

2518
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:18,799
Speaker 1: and they didn't go to the playoffs.

2519
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I would say that they were gonna judge

2520
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 4: Cousins off his record. I would say, well, what did

2521
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 4: he do individually to help those wins? The paper was

2522
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 4: suggest that yeah he did that, but man, he had

2523
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 4: I think eighteen and sixteen sixteen intercept. Just to me

2524
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:37,600
Speaker 4: blindly off the top of the head, he might have

2525
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 4: led the league at interceptions. The one thing that we

2526
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 4: do know the number one deciding factor in football turnovers,

2527
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 4: And if the quarterback is turning the ball over, it's

2528
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:49,759
Speaker 4: a problem.

2529
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 3: And he's turning the.

2530
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 4: Ball over while not giving them any production or the

2531
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 4: performance that matches his salary. Because we took again in

2532
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 4: the first round, we might as well hand the ball

2533
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 4: to him if we if we're gonna turn it over

2534
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 4: and then we're gonna start losing, I'm going to go

2535
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 4: down with the young player because I need to see

2536
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 4: what I have so I can figure out how to

2537
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 4: build the team with him in mind.

2538
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I got a couple of

2539
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: quarterback questions for you, who quickies?

2540
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 2: Are you ready? Who gets who gets more wins this year?

2541
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers or Justin Fields?

2542
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 4: Oh, Aaron Rodgers or Justin Fields? Who gets more wins?

2543
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:27,839
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Pittsburgh gets.

2544
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 3: More wins just because of the brand. I just think

2545
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:30,719
Speaker 3: the brand.

2546
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think.

2547
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 3: I think. I just think the brand is whatever. I

2548
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 3: don't know, Like it's such a weird team and a dynamic.

2549
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 4: They got a lot of personalities now though, Like yeah,

2550
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf, Jalen Ramsey. I mean, you got

2551
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 4: a lot of personalities that you're managing and dealing with

2552
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 4: right now, all at one time. TJ whte hasn't been

2553
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 4: in I mean, that's a lot to navigate, just a

2554
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 4: lot a lot to manage, right.

2555
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 1: I think they make the playoffs. I really, I think

2556
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: there are a playoff TAM this year. We'll see what happens. Okay,

2557
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 1: I got another quarterback question for you, JJ McCarthy. Is

2558
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 1: he's going to be an upgrade over Sam Donald for

2559
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 1: the Vikings this year.

2560
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 4: Yes, he is JJ McCarthy's talented. He is athletic and

2561
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 4: mobile and people are sleeping on him because of the

2562
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 4: role that he played at Michigan. He was more of

2563
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 4: the game manager, the kaltaker. He wasn't the playmaker. But man,

2564
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 4: when you look at his game in big moments when

2565
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 4: they needed to throw it and let and be led

2566
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 4: by the quarterback, he made those plays.

2567
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm just a believer in him, man.

2568
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 4: I think his talent is superior to that of Sam Donald,

2569
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 4: and he's a better player. I just think he's a

2570
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 4: better player than Sam Donald is and will be and

2571
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 4: will be for the Vikings.

2572
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 1: This could be an interesting story to follow though, see

2573
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 1: what happens over there with Minnesota. But with that, he

2574
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 1: is Bucky Brooks on Ady Fermer. We have Fox Sports

2575
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: Sunny of Fox Sports Radio.

2576
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 2: And it's that time. You know we never do it,

2577
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 2: isn't it?

2578
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 7: We never do it?

2579
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 2: No someone else does. Why it's the blame gaming.

2580
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 1: You know what it's freaking next, Oh, the blame game

2581
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: right around the band coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks

2582
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 1: and Andy Firmer with Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

2583
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,080
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2584
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: And of course, in about twelve minutes from now, which

2585
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 1: will be nine am on the East Coast Countdown count

2586
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:19,320
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2587
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 1: Krakenberger right here on Fox Sports Radio and about twelve minutes.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere but right now, Patty, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: It's blame game time with me. It's all your fault. No,

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Speaker 1: it's your fault, all your fault. Maybe it's everyone's fault.

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Speaker 7: Who knows the liar.

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Speaker 9: That's why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's

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Speaker 9: figure out who to blame.

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Speaker 2: It's your fault, Patty, the playing game.

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Speaker 5: All right, fine, it's my fault. Well, you know it's

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Speaker 5: LD's fault today everybody. Well with that, let's see who

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Speaker 5: else is that fault? Well, I got one for us, guys.

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Speaker 5: So earlier in the weekend, it was reported that Lakers

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Speaker 5: and Lebron James, then you know that little seemed to

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Speaker 5: be heading toward divorce right. Well, earlier it was reported

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Speaker 5: that apparently when the Lakers had sold to a Marc

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Speaker 5: to the Dodgers, guy forget his name, Mark Clayton, I

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Speaker 5: think is what it is either.

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Speaker 9: Way when they sold it to him.

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Speaker 5: So the Lakers told Fredford, having told Luca, hey, this

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Speaker 5: is what's gonna happen. We just want to keep you

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Speaker 5: in the no great. Apparently Lebron James did not get

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Speaker 5: that same memo and they did not tell him prior

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Speaker 5: to that happening.

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Speaker 9: So with that said, who do you a blame Andy.

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Speaker 1: Well, probably some stupid office clerk didn't send it to Lebron.

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Speaker 1: But why should the blunt have to know?

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Speaker 2: Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Well, what is it going to affect him? Who buys

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Speaker 1: the team? Are they can not buy the team? What's

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Speaker 1: the big deal? Why is everybody getting bent out of shape?

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Speaker 1: You know, Kirk Cusins got bet out of shape he

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Speaker 1: didn't know the Falcons were drafting a quarterback Lebron Jamess

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Speaker 1: bent out of shape because he didn't know the team

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Speaker 1: was sold. What does he He's getting his money, he's

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Speaker 1: getting his kid.

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Speaker 3: Who cares?

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Speaker 2: Who cares?

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Speaker 7: Jeeves?

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Speaker 3: I say.

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Speaker 4: The reason why it becomes an issue is because if

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Speaker 4: you've into what they proceed to be a partnership and

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Speaker 4: you don't tell your partner about a major move, then

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Speaker 4: it's a problem. And that's why it's problematic. They haven't

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Speaker 4: told him about a major move that is on the horizon.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's problematic. They should have told him.

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Speaker 9: Speaking of major that's true, speaking of major moves, guys.

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Speaker 5: So Chicago's Sky's Angel Reese says, w NBA officiating has

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Speaker 5: to be fixed.

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Speaker 9: Who do you blame, Bucky?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think, look, officiating is a hard job

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Speaker 4: in every level. So I'm blame to w n B A.

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Speaker 4: Make sure that you have the best and the brightest

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Speaker 4: on the floor, hold them accountable to see if we

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Speaker 4: can have the best product on the thing. But don't

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Speaker 4: bring in the automated stuff. No AI on the on

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Speaker 4: the court, don't want to see that.

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Speaker 1: I blame the commissioner of the w That's truly, Angel Heart.

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Speaker 1: She's weak, she's she's just a I don't know what

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Speaker 1: she is.

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Speaker 5: I know was this.

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Speaker 1: She had a forty five minute speech the other day

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Speaker 1: and she was saying how great the league was with

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Speaker 1: expansion and they're getting first class flights. Never once mentioned

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark. Are you out of your freaking mind? How

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Speaker 1: do you know that Cayton Clark made you your name known? Really?

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Speaker 1: Come on, get rid of her. She's been it starts

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Speaker 1: for the top, and she's weak at the top.

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Speaker 5: Julian Engelhart, Well, we're gonna stick around with the WNBA

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Speaker 5: for this next one. So with that said, so the

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Speaker 5: WNBA plans to push their schedule to November as league expands.

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Speaker 1: Who do you blame Andy again? The commissioner was, you

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Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. No one's gonna know who's playing

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Speaker 1: in the championship game because this NFL season. I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, do you know you learn your lesson from

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Speaker 1: the NBA. They lost Christmas Day, You're gonna lose Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: Forget it forget push it back, push it back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think you just had to be careful making sure

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Speaker 4: that you don't go too deep into it because you

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Speaker 4: gonna lose viewership as football begins to escalate and ramp up.

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Speaker 4: Just make sure you have a solid ending date where

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Speaker 4: you can maximize your exposure.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to go too long in the football season.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, speaking of going too long into games here, guys,

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Speaker 5: So the MLB is actually planning to use automation for

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Speaker 5: balls and strikes in this year's All Star Game.

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Speaker 9: I mentioned that earlier. Well, we're back on here. We're

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Speaker 9: back on this here. So with that said, who do

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Speaker 9: you blame for that one? Bucky?

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Speaker 4: Well, I blame all the complaining, everyone crying. So I

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Speaker 4: blame the managers and the players about crime. But what

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Speaker 4: they're gonna find out is that the human element is

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Speaker 4: going to be a lot more forgiving to them than

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Speaker 4: the computer.

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Speaker 1: So stop crying, Come on, bucking, stop crying, you please, Really,

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Speaker 1: I tell you what I blame. I blame the fact

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Speaker 1: that Major League Baseball is too stupid to realize that

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Speaker 1: part of the great game of baseball, and it's great,

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Speaker 1: it really is, is when guys would argument the little

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Speaker 1: Panela's of the world, but Earl Weaver would matter arguing

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Speaker 1: with the umpire. That's gonna be gone now. Not only

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Speaker 1: that the empire's jobs will be gone. That's bad, they

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Speaker 1: lose their jobs, but part of the game when the

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Speaker 1: umpire would run out and go nuts and kick dirt

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Speaker 1: on the home plate where the umpire was there, that's

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Speaker 1: part of the mystique of baseball.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be gone.

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Speaker 1: Stop crying, he's a towel, Bucky, Please, I'm come on now, really, geez.

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, fine, O F I don't blame guys.

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Speaker 5: So Dave Parker never lived to see his plaque in

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Speaker 5: Cooper's town. He passed two weeks ago and the Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame ceremonies later this month. If that's in change,

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Speaker 5: why wouldn't the Hall vote.

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Speaker 9: Him in sooner? Knowing time was not on his side?

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Speaker 9: Who do you blame? Bucky?

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Speaker 4: The guy just blamed the Hall of Fame committee and

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Speaker 4: all the different things that are related to that. Like,

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Speaker 4: it's just silly when you think about like Dave park

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Speaker 4: And not being able to go in to wait that

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Speaker 4: he should go in all those things there fault.

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Speaker 1: I second that I said, Mage, Rest in peace, Dave

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Speaker 1: fark the day you goo? All right? Count down next

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Speaker 1: right here, See you next WEEKOX Sports Radio