1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh, let's Gilmore Girls Gazette 2 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: with Amy Sugarman and Danielle Romo, an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: We take you back to February twenty second, twenty eleven 4 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: two two two one one, a numerologist holiday, a day 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: that uh was a sad day in the world. There 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: was a big earthquake in christ Church, New Zealand, a 7 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: deadly earthquake while we here in America were settling on 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: the couch to watch Parenthood. And what a fine episode 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: this was Born this way by Lady Gaga was blasting 10 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: out of our radios as the number one song in 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: America as we enjoyed this episode, which I thought was 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: an excellent episode. 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: First of all, your research is a ten. I can't 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: thank you enough for the extra effort, and this episode 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: was a ten. Thanks so much for joining us. 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: It was fantastic, and there's so much to discuss and 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: get into, so many great performances. 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: One of your favorite things that I'm trying to do 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: right now, and I feel like we're pulling it off 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: talking at the same time but still being able to 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: hear each. 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: Other like Parenthood does so be. 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: There was like nine scenes of that this time. Yes, 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: So it's a ten. There's a lot to talk about, 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: and I think we will disagree on things too. So 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you decide where we begin. 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: Well, we're I think we begin in my notes, I 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: start with, well, Crosby, the episode begins with Crosby. We're 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: going to start with sleep. 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: We're going to start with the big guns, Rude that 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: he left, Rude that he left, Like, let's start with that. 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: That was that was not cool, that was harsh. 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: No, definitely, Second, it's over. The regret seeps in. 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: And also they needed to just talk about it. I 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: actually think if they would have talked about it, he 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: would have stayed, they would have talked about it. Maybe 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have the issue that we had. 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we. 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: Had a giant implosion partly because he left and they 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: didn't talk about it, like they could have maybe been 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: like easy breezy, it happened the you know, you've got 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: to work, blah blah blah. 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Except she has feelings, so I'm not sure it could 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: you be just eazy. 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: Breezy correct, But I do think that maybe if there 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: was a conversation, it could have gone differently. I just 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: think it could have gone differently. So, okay, were they 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: both wrong? Or was Crosby only wrong? Was anyone wrong? 49 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: They're both wrong? 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: So you feel like because of the relationship between Minka, Kelly, 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: Gabby and Max and the Braverman family, Adam and Christina 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: to be specific, she crossed the line by sleeping with 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: the brother. 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you can't sleep with the clients relative. 55 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's dicey territory, but I'm not going 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: to give you a hard noe on it. 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: Not gonna get it's a hard note. I would say fault. 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: You're looking at sixty forty Crosby, maybe sixty five thirty five. 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: But Gabby's got to take her share of. 60 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: This, Okay, sure, sure, fair? 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: Next, hold do the synopsis. I mean, what are we doing? 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: All right? 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Crosby pays the price here we go for a mistake 64 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: that will change his relationships with those closest to him. 65 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: Adam gets annoyed with Alex's frequent visits. Meanwhile, Adam and 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: Christina are forced to deal with a huge problem that 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: will affect Max's progress. Elsewhere, Drew has hit with some 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: disappointing news from his father, while Sydney makes a decision. 69 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: Her parents, Julia and Joel, are supportive of Okay. 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: Remain storylines here. Yes, Crosby, Sarah and John Corbett's the whole, 71 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: that whole deal and then the vegetarian thing, which. 72 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: Was so good. 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: But we'll get to that. 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: But it's like the light, it's like the you need 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: a little palette. But then there was like some meat 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: to it was very good with. 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: Zeke and Camille. Okay, let's go back to Crosby. Should 78 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: Crosby have told everybody right away? Should he have never 79 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: told anybody. 80 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: Once he crossed the line? I mean, I guess credit 81 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: to him for coming clean, right, I mean, you don't 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: want to carry that the rest of your life. 83 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Should he really should have talked to Gabby to figure 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: out the situation. 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: On that, but still need Nonetheless, it happened. 86 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: So was Gabby wrong to tell Christina? 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Christina pushed her, she did, 88 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: she definitely did. 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 3: I think that hold on, I'm getting my I got 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: to get my massaged hold on. 91 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: Of course, when we're going a little fast here, because 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: we're missing a couple of things. 93 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: By the way, I realized this episode. 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: Look at that contraption. It looks. 95 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: Here's why I realized this episode was sort of had 96 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: a lot of feelings around it, and I'm not going 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 3: to be able to truly focus if my back muscle 98 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: is just messing me up. So everything's changed for me 99 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: now because now I've got my massager going into my 100 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: menopause muscles. Okay, was Christina right to go over there? 101 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: Yes? Christina, yes, yes, she wants to keep Gabby. However 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: she can whatever the problem is, she can solve it. 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: That's her mind. 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Gabby was trying to do the 105 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: right thing by going over there. Clearly she had sort 106 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: of a letter. She did it in person. That was all. 107 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a big picture. Crosby's probably 108 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: more to blame. It was. Was Crosby right to tell. 109 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: Jasmine, absolutely, you have. 110 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: To Jasmine's reaction warranted. 111 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: I think it was exactly correct reaction. 112 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: It was a little extreme. 113 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: He slept with another woman, they're engaged. Oh, here we 114 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: go with this again. 115 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: They were on like they were. Ross and Rachel were 116 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: definitely on a break. They were on like a maybe. 117 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: A break has to be verbally established, and. 118 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: Fine, I'm gonna give it to you. It's a whole 119 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: it's a whole hot mess. 120 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: It's a hot mess. And he had to tell her 121 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: and he I don't even remember where this goes, honestly, 122 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: so I'm kind of intrigued to find out. But I'm 123 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: glad he told her and she had the correct reaction, 124 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: and I don't think she could marry him after this, 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: and I don't think so, yeah, that's right. 126 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: Well, wow, all right, okay, where do we net out 127 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: on this mess? And then the mess it ends with 128 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: Max learning he has aspergers. Yes, that was big, which 129 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: is really called autism spectrum. Well, we'll call it Asperger's 130 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: because that's what they say in the show. But I 131 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: do think it's an antiquated term now and we need 132 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: to check that that's right. 133 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: And unfortunate for doctor Asperger, who was was named after that, 134 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: he's being shuttled away. 135 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: Like we need to look that up. 136 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: There were a couple of things we missed that At 137 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: the beginning, Alex was teaching Max the drop pop game, 138 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: which is something I taught my kids and oh yeah, yeah. 139 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: They hold the ball over the underside of your elbow 140 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: and you pop it up in the air. My kids 141 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: are pros at that. And the friends are baffled by it, 142 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: and I'm so proud that I taught them that. 143 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: So that was let me give you, let me give 144 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: you a little information. 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: Please. 146 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: Asperger syndrome is no longer used in clinical practice because 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: there's an overlap with autism spectrum disorder. This is very 148 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: in the weeds. I'm not going to bore everybody call 149 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: it now A. Yeah, there were misconceptions and stigma with 150 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: the term Aspergers. There's a lot of reasons, so we'll 151 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: just suffice it to say we don't know what we're 152 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: going to call it. 153 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: That was a powerful scene when he was like, because that's. 154 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: What term they use. Yeah, and we had talked about 155 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: that in an episode prior where they knew they that 156 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: he didn't know, and I think Adam sort of says 157 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: something to the effect of, I'll tell him when he 158 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: asks about it. 159 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: Right, Well, well, here we. 160 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: Are now side tangent. Is Adam overreacting about. 161 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: Ash I don't think so, I think me, Well, Alex, Yes, 162 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: he's overreacting about Alex. Yes, I agree, he's not overreacting 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: about Crosby. 164 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, Well I thought Christina handled it 165 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: better and I actually was surprised by how Christina was 166 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: sort of like, calm down, calm down. 167 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: Right, But it is his brother. If this, if I 168 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: were Adam, I they could have reacted very similarly because 169 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: his devil may care, lifestyle, his whatever, and now it 170 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: is affecting Max, and. 171 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: Max you're messing with you're messing with my kid. That's 172 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: kind of the thing that the parent is not, especially 173 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: with a sibling. Yes you're because you're kind of have 174 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: the guard down with your siblings, so you can just 175 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: say it like it is. 176 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: Especially the same sex siblings like that. And also Adam 177 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: and Crosby already weren't in a good place because they 178 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: were fighting in the basketball court or right. 179 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: Well, also because Crosby's imploding, we could have some Look, 180 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 3: I have some sympathy. I don't know if it's empathy 181 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: or sympathy, but I have it for Crosby because he's 182 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: struggling and no one's really curing him. They're glossing over it. 183 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: They're sort of saying to him like, oh, you're fine, 184 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: this is a great girl, You're fine, when he's like, 185 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm not fine, wasn't fine? 186 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: What's going on? What are you empathizing with? What is 187 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: he going with? 188 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: Because I think that he's losing himself. He's a different 189 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: kind of guy than Adam. And on top of that, 190 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: I do think Jasmine was being kind of a bit controlling, 191 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: and we know that about her, and it's oil and water. 192 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: He's a spirit. You know, know who you marry, know 193 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: who you're marrying, know who you're dating, and have some 194 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: grace for that, adjustment for that. Like, if you are 195 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: marrying someone that's more of a free spirit, being totally 196 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: controlling is probably not your best move. 197 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 2: Is sure, that's fine. I just don't know that he's 198 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: going through that much. I don't know. I don't have 199 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: as much empathy for him as you do. I understand 200 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: that he feels like his fiance's being controlling. Wow Wow, 201 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: wha doesn't give you the ride to go sleep. 202 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: He tried to talk about it with her and she 203 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: just wouldn't and she really reacted harshly and then was 204 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: sort of like get out. She didn't quite say that, 205 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: but there was sort of a I don't want to 206 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: be near you type of vibe. And then he came 207 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: back and tried to talk about it a couple times. 208 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: Then she bails the birthday, like again. Sixty forty girlsby. 209 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: Going through some stuff with your girlfriend. Fine, but it's 210 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: not like he's going through stuff in a grand sense. 211 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have that much sympathy for cars. 212 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: I think it's coming grand. If I'm going to be honest, 213 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: I kind of think it's grand. I think when I 214 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: think for men, maybe especially, but I think suddenly you 215 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 3: find out you have a kid, which she. 216 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: Kept from a big deal. But that was a while back, 217 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: a year back, Okay. 218 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: All right, you're maybe a year and a half. I 219 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 3: don't know she kept that from him. There's going to 220 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: be some sort of damage there. So he's suddenly a dad. 221 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: He's dating her, now he's getting married. It's a lot. 222 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: Leaving the boat, it's a lot, and I just feel 223 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: like nobody because it doesn't seem like a lot to 224 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: the rest of the Braverman's they don't care, especially Adam, 225 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: maybe Julia. They don't see it. Maybe Sarah gets it 226 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: a little more anyway, I don't know. 227 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: I do want to point out I thought Dak Shepherd 228 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: was excellent in this episode. I thought the scene where 229 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: he confessed to Jasmine, he was really really strong. 230 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: In that great. He's really good it's funny. It's almost 231 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: like there's two Dak Shepherds, because this guy is so 232 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: different than the podcast guy. I like both versions. You know, 233 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: there's the host Dac Shepherd podcast guy. But he was 234 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: very good actor in Parenthood. 235 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't know that he. 236 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: Was as good in some of his other movies or whatever. 237 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I can't. I don't remember any of those chips. 238 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I came to my mind. Okay, maybe 239 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: you're right. 240 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: You know, he started on that Ashton Kutscher show. Don't 241 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: tell me what it's called. 242 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: Punk okay, oh oh yeah, that's right. 243 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: He was like no one, He wasn't famous, so it 244 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: was so good. He could really punk people because no 245 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: one knew who he was. What do you want to 246 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: go to next? 247 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Julia to Julia? Yeah, Julian and Joel. 248 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: I love the fact that that darling kids and her 249 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: cute bangs has decided she's a vegetarian. 250 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: You know him, my daughter, one of your kids, very 251 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: young age. You know, we saw a movie called The 252 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: Biggest Little Farm. Okay, it was what it is called. 253 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: We when saw that movie. It was all about farm animals, 254 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: and when that was over, she said, I'm not eating 255 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: animals anymore. I'm done. 256 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 3: And did she eat animals? 257 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: Now? It completely stuck. She has not eaten since that movie. 258 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: And what was that movie? I was eight eight, nine 259 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: years ago. 260 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: Probably didn't you guys have to start cooking different meals. 261 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: To a degree? Yeah? We did, yeah, yeah, and I 262 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: remember we went from that movie to veggie grill for dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 263 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: it's hard animals. Right, we did. But ever since, she's 264 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: been very strict about it, and we're very supportive of that. 265 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: That was just seven years. 266 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 3: Ago, right, I'm totally totally supportive. Now I have a 267 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: story that I'm going to tell. Please, please do not 268 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: come at me for this. Oh boy, bless my niece. So, 269 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 3: my niece also had a similar experience to Sydney that 270 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: a friend became a vegetarian, so she became a vegetarian. 271 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: Then she was a vegetarian who ate bacon. I was like, 272 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: I'm a vegetarian except when we go to a meat place, 273 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: and her sisters were kind of like, she's trying, right, 274 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: She's trying. She definitely was like a vegetarian who also 275 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: ate hot dogs from time to time in a football game. 276 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: But then finally and this is something kind of interesting 277 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: for kids that are vegetarians. The doctor actually said this 278 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: kid cannot be a vegetarian because she was getting way 279 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: too thin. She was not eating enough protein, probably so 280 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: it did not stick for her, although I appreciated what 281 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: she was trying, right, she also was a kid who 282 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: for a time didn't want to give a hug, and 283 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: then now she gives ugs again. We just let her 284 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: do it, We let her go through it. 285 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zeek's reaction probably wasn't what they would recommend. 286 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: Although it's very of that time. And look, he didn't 287 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: say you must eat meat. He wasn't like, here's a 288 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: chicken wing and shoving down her throat. He said, your 289 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: grandmother has now made you two meals satan, which I 290 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: did laugh out loud. It laughed out, what is satan? 291 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: I don't know's that's a good question. 292 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: It looked gray, looks a little gross, sorry, lovers. 293 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: It's made from gluten. 294 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: The main Well, first of all, that seems like that 295 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: sounds gross right there. 296 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: It's a meat substitute due to its chewy texture and 297 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: savory flavor. 298 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: Oh s E, I t a n You know, I'm 299 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: not crazy about anything that's called a meat substitute. 300 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't kind of great again, I. 301 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: Don't need any kind of oprah action with the beef 302 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: industry or the satan industry. So to each their own, 303 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: but I'd go with the vegetables, the beans, the whole 304 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: thing there. That being said, he took the lasagna but 305 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: looked very delicious, and I don't eat cheese, and I 306 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: really wanted to eat that lasagna and said, just pick 307 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: and she's all have dessert, which. 308 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, right, we're going to sit here all day. 309 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: And then it was on and he's like, all right when. 310 00:15:59,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: She just. 311 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: Sydney is just all Julia, and Joel is just the 312 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: sweetest there isn't. First of all, Joel is the what 313 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: is the word forgotten hero? 314 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Like? 315 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: I love Joel. By the way, there's a bug that's 316 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: been crawling around my wall the whole time, and somehow 317 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: it's just so distracting to me. Why not kill that? 318 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: You got up and got your. 319 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: I try not to kill bugs. 320 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: Wow, very, I will do it. 321 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: I will do it. I know those that really did 322 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: not appreciate the mouse getting flushed on the toilet. I 323 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: don't know if anyone remembers not storry scroll back. I 324 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: definitely try to let spiders go because I heard they 325 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: do a lot of good. It doesn't always happen, but 326 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: I definitely don't. I don't kill bees. Their bees are crucial. 327 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: Bees are I get sad when I see a. 328 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: Dead b I believe we all die if we don't 329 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: have bees. 330 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: Or yes, if the bees next let him live. 331 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: A mosquito though, I'm not going to tolerate. Nope, it's 332 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: just some sort of little buggy. But I got three 333 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: in the house right now. I don't know how they 334 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: got him. 335 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: Well you should name them. 336 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: Tom Dick and Harry. 337 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: There they are. 338 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 3: First of all, if you're young, you're not going to 339 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: get that at all. Like, can you imagine young people 340 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: that are like. 341 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 2: Tom Dick and Harry an expression anymore? 342 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: To find that out? Original? And Harry, where does Tom? 343 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 2: Well you look that up. I did enjoy Zeke confessing 344 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: to eating dog in Vietnam. That was funny, disturbing, but funny. 345 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: And Camille's like, you can't let the kid feel like 346 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: she has all the power. It's backwards. That's actually pretty 347 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: solid advice right there. 348 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: Zeke was not wrong, right, well, maybe he was being 349 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: Zeke about it and Julia and Joel are not Zeke. 350 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: Camille was right, and how about Zeke being sort of 351 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: so happy and the way he came and he breast 352 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: it and then they bound bound bound in the laundry room. Now, 353 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: I was hoping someone was going to kiss you. Have 354 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: they not kissed? 355 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: That's what? And by the way, that was my thought 356 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: is I never want to get to that point in 357 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: my marriage where I go that long without kissing my wife. 358 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: That it's right, like even when you're going But yeah, 359 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: they got into it. It came back to them real fast. 360 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: Somebody to walk in so bad? All lah when Joel 361 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: and Julia, Tom Dick and Harry comes from the use 362 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: of common sixteenth and century, sixteenth and seventeenth century names 363 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: to represent ordinary random people. So what would it be now, 364 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: like Ashton, Tyler, Tyler and Colby. I don't know anyway, Okay, 365 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: like my nieces. If you said to my baby like 366 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: little nieces. 367 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: Tom Dick and Harry, Harry, Yeah, that's weird. 368 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: You'd have to be like Max, you know, Wyatt and Cooper. Anyway, 369 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: let's talk about sets. Looking at a little greasy again. 370 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: Here we go. 371 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: He went back to greasy. See, here's what I thought 372 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: about in the shower. Obviously I just got out. 373 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: Here's what I don't think about. It's been years since 374 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: I've seen you, not fresh out of the shower. You 375 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: know that person. 376 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: I know. 377 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: I have a strange schedule because I slat. I went 378 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: to bed at like one thirty, woke up at seven, 379 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: did emails till nine, fell back to sleep from nine 380 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: to ten thirty. Thence why I had to push this 381 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: back because I had to take a shower, because if 382 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: I don't take the shower, because what I do is 383 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: I have meetings and phone calls starting at ten thirty 384 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: all the way through. Luckily today it was eleven. Had 385 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: to move this to eleven ten. No one cares, but 386 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: it's you know, and I want to hear your people's schedules. 387 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: So you're in bed with your laptop. 388 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Is that what? Yeah? 389 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: And then you finished that round, you slam it shot 390 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: and you hit right back to the pillow. 391 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: Right to the point that I dreamed. I had from 392 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: between nine and ten thirty. I had multiple dreams, means 393 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: that I can remember. I literally was like wow, and 394 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: I almost in it was a good job because I 395 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: don't get enough sleep. So when I get that. I 396 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: guess a good job you did. I'm not going to 397 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: beat myself up over that. It's a it's a good 398 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: job because I have to get eight and a half 399 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: hours now menopose. 400 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: Wow. But what disturbs me about you is that there 401 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: is no time of day that I can text you 402 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: that you don't respond. I feel like that's too attached 403 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: to your phone. 404 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: Thank you, But also, what am I going to do 405 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: about it? 406 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, but I guess adjust your 407 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: schedule to be more like the other humans of the world. 408 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: But okay, I know, but I have a menopause minute 409 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: today that it's going to be. For those listening, wait 410 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: stick around till the end, because the menopause minute today 411 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: is pretty exceptional and I'm needing support through it, and 412 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: so I'm hoping people respond. Okay, let's talk about Amber. 413 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 2: Andrew may Whitman excellent in that scene, gives into discess, 414 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: looks great, but when she really gives it as sath, 415 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: she was so good the way she was fighting back tears. 416 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: Here's what I feel. They're both right. They're both right. Yes, 417 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: they both had a dad that left right and Drew 418 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: is responding saying, but he's here now, and I want 419 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: to experience it, enjoy it. I don't want to be mad. 420 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: I want to like it. And may whitman. Amber is like, 421 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: we had a dad who left. Screw this guy. I'm 422 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: so hurt by it. I'm so mad. 423 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: Also, right, Yeah, they're feelings, right, valid especially hers because 424 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: she's older she remembers more. 425 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: Of the Yeah, but he's got a deal, meaning Seth 426 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 3: with the situation. Now. Amber did not cause Seth to leave, 427 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: although the pain of her thinking that, right, oh, you 428 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: feel like maybe. 429 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: It pushed Yeah, I'm sure he was going to leave eventually, 430 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: but I think he found a way out after that. 431 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 3: That makes Seth a real you were it does. 432 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: But the discomfort in that scene, first when he gives 433 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: it the guitar and she's not interested, and then when 434 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: she just gives it to him that this show does 435 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: discomfort so well, god so. 436 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: And then first of all, you're kind of enjoying him 437 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: cutting the chicken and you see him washing his hands. 438 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: You know he's gonna stick around. Drew's loving it, even 439 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: Sarah's enjoying it. And then the face of Sarah who's 440 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: just like, I'm in shock. I don't know what to do. 441 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: Everybody's wrong, everybody's right. I don't know what to do. 442 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: I'm just frozen. 443 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he and then he goes to her 444 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: and says, you know, something came up. I gotta get 445 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: out of here. And she says the. 446 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: Speech at the bar was good. Though. When she goes back. 447 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 2: Out, you're going to be there tomorrow morning, yeah, and you. 448 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: Won't be late. At first, I was sort of disappointed, 449 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 3: like she's just taking it. But when you get when 450 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: you have someone like a Seth who repeatedly does this, 451 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: you learn also fighting back and trying to prove what's right. 452 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: Is this a total waste of time? 453 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: And then they had a beautiful moment. He came back, 454 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: he said goodbye, and then Seth and Sarah had a 455 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: nice they hugged. 456 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: Good acting by John Corbett. 457 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: Tear tear is good. 458 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: John Corbett is the right guy to play set. 459 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 460 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: I guess that's true. 461 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: Yeah he is. 462 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: He's not too scusy, scuzy, but not too scusy. But 463 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: the tear thing. You know, there was a time in 464 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: my life I thought I could be an actor. Didn't 465 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: work out. 466 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: You know, whatever, can you cry? 467 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: I don't think I could ever produce a tear on demand. 468 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: I always think of Matt Damon and Goodwill hunting. 469 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: That right now, if you want to roll down the cheek, 470 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: and that's so impressive to me. I can't right now, 471 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: only because I'm just like I have to gear myself 472 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: up a little bit. But like I could, I could 473 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: totally do that, Like. 474 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: I see, I could see myself. I could get misty, 475 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: I could get wet eyed. But I don't think I 476 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: could produce a physical tear rolling down my face. 477 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: I think I could ball like a baby if I Yeah, 478 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: I actually really really really do because I am always 479 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: how do I explain this? I have so much that 480 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: at any moment I kind of need to come out. 481 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, that's what this is. 482 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: This is just anxiety in my neck. 483 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: Right that she went stress and then the Muscle Rocks implement, 484 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: and then the great scene with Drew and Amber when 485 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: Amber says song She's sorry, and Drew says the quote 486 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: if he was a real dad, nothing you could have said, Yeah, 487 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: it made him leave. 488 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: Yep, yes, beautiful, and they said mom's here basically, yeah, 489 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: she's not going anywhere. They kind of giggle, and then 490 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: she does the song small fingers, small toes or something 491 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 3: like that. Yes, her eyes, my nose. It's not even 492 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: a great song. 493 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: We totally know it. 494 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: We know it very And then a montage. I love 495 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: a montage. 496 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: We need to know who wrote that song in actuality. 497 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: And then we're to assume that Sarah's writing songs right 498 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 3: sitting on the floor. 499 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. 500 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: I mean this is a ten. This is a ten episode. 501 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: I cried, I got tiary. I was thinking I was 502 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: gonna do a couple of things. Couldn't stop watching it. 503 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to nine point eight. I didn't cry because 504 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: I didn't cry. 505 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: Oh I am. 506 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: I did. 507 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: And here's what happens to me. I go, I'm gonna 508 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: watch fifteen minutes. I'm gonna go do a few things 509 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: and I'll come back. Nope, she just sat there. 510 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: For the whole thing. Small fingers, small toes, your forehead, 511 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: my nose. Yeah, no matter how far away you are 512 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: for me tonight, it's all right. By the way, the 513 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: chords are at Ultimate Guitar dot Com. To get into this, 514 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: the internet icon't it's amazing so good. 515 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: What who wrote it? 516 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: Though? 517 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: Well, let's see if that's out there, because. 518 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: I if it says Seth and Sarah, I will wet 519 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: my pants. 520 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: Uh, I don't think, not. 521 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: Knowing it's maybe like it maybe like Bachelor art. So 522 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: you know my story about the Bachelor. They paint the 523 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: art for the show so they don't have to clear it. 524 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: So somebody is hired to paint the art, and I 525 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: have a painting from the Bachelor and they change it out. 526 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: So I have a painting from the Bachelor Mansion and 527 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: the painting's amazing. Would anybody want to see it? 528 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: I would like to see it. 529 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 3: Put it on the gram as. First of all, I 530 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: saw Kim Kardashian saying IG. So is that what the cool? 531 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: It's ig? Okay? 532 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me bring this up really nice for everybody. Jackie, 533 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: I will send this to you so people can understand 534 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: what Bachelor art is. Okay, should we do the menopause 535 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: minute before? 536 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: It's all original art in the Bachelor Mansion. 537 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, because then they don't have to clear it. So 538 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: let me tell you. So I have a plan based 539 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: on that because we're always building studios and we have 540 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: meat art in the studios. So my aunt, my aunt 541 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 3: Sherry shout Out is a paint is an artist. She's 542 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: a painter. I don't know you call it artist. She's 543 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 3: kind of retired from it, but she has tons of paintings. 544 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: So I've got them all over my house. 545 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: Well let me see it. I mean, you just sent 546 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: it and you're not letting me. 547 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 3: This is bachelor art, not aunt cherry art. 548 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: So, uh, this is your home right now? And what 549 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: is that room you're in. It's not like an office. 550 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: This is my office, but it's very attached. It sounds 551 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: fancy like I have an office. It's sort of barn 552 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: door in to the living room, so like nobody can 553 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: be in the living room when I'm in here. But 554 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: it's like a little I like to call a little 555 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 3: den to take us back to the seventies. But it's 556 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: just But what happened was I used to face a 557 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: different direction and that wall actually has wallpaper, but you 558 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: can barely tell. It's a little hot. It's a little 559 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: white for the backdrop now but whatever. 560 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: Okay, two fish to they look like they're orange and 561 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 2: white fish. Yeah, swimming next to each other, almost yang circle. 562 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: And there was a pair to that painting, but Chris 563 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: Harrison's former wife ended up with that painting and it 564 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: got lost because I would have loved both. I just 565 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 3: took that out. It was a garage one day. 566 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: It's a nice it's a nice photo, and go to it's. 567 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: An amazing it's an amazing painting. So anyway, my aunt Cherry, 568 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: I'm getting a bunch of paintings from her because we 569 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 3: don't have to clear them. 570 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Smart, And then we can put it the. 571 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: Podcast studios, right because my aunt's not gonna sue me. 572 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: And now it's time for the menopause minutes. 573 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: Ladies of a certain age. This is my latest thing. 574 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: So in my thirties and forties, I could go on 575 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: my walks and read my emails and respond while walking. 576 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: Just I've noticed over the last year I would be 577 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: on my walk and I'd start to look at my 578 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: emails and it's start veering to the right. Whoa, and 579 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: I'm like it scared me. I was like, am I okay? 580 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: Like what is going on? 581 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Uh? 582 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: And I kind of thought, oh, maybe that's something's going 583 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: on there. The last few days I've noticed, oh my god, 584 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: if I try to read respond walk all at the 585 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: same time, look up, it's not dizzy. I don't get 586 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: dizzy dizzy. It would it's like whoa. It's almost like that, 587 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: almost like a carsick feeling. 588 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: You're like, whoa. 589 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: So of course I payan like because I'm like, what's 590 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: wrong with What's wrong with me? 591 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: Now? 592 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: Google it and I'm basically like, I can't read my phone, 593 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: write emails and walk at the same time. And it's 594 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: called cybersickness or something. It has a name. But fun 595 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: fact for you when you go through menopause, when you're 596 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: in menopause, host menopause, you're balance? Is it because you 597 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: don't have estrogen? It kind of has something to do 598 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: with the inner ear and the whole thing, the balance thing. 599 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: So it makes proper sense because I've had every test 600 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: in the book that I've in my blood work, every 601 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: doctor and this only occurs when I am walking fast 602 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: to read and write emails like never at home, never, 603 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: none of that. 604 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you guysoud be careful if you're ever hiking 605 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: near a cliff side, because I've done that before and 606 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: you don't want to go veering off the cliff. 607 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: Like you were reading your emails. 608 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've just you just got off places 609 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: I've been hiking where I'd be like, oh geez, I 610 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: need a related focus here because I got a little 611 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: cloac less to the edge. 612 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: That's a little vertigoy. I can't I don't really like 613 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: to be on like like I'm not the go out 614 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: on the balcony type look over. 615 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: Okay, sure that's not for me. That can mess with you. 616 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: I would feel I'm almost feeling nauseous thinking about it. 617 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: Wow, all right, And actually a little bit of. 618 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: Nausea can be a menopause symptom sometimes something to do 619 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: with the when I get the hot flash, it's almost 620 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: like wave of anxiety one minute, hint, tweak of nausea, 621 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: occasionally full sweat. 622 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 623 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, it's great, really so great. 624 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: It sounds like it's a real treat. All right. Next week, 625 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: Season two, Episode eighteen, Qualities and Difficulties. I feel like 626 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: we're heading towards the end of season two. 627 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 3: I'm assuming there's twenty two episodes. 628 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: I assume so so we got like five more so 629 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: I'll be able to get the end of the season 630 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: before Romo comes back. 631 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah that's a good plan. Actually, yeah, miss can you 632 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: make an appearance from time to time? I'd be happy 633 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: to Three voices is not too many, I mean five 634 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: too many? 635 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: Five too many. I agree. 636 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: We listen if you want to coming in January, so 637 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: we've got a lot. Or are the people excited about 638 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: listen if you want to. Now, no one is still 639 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: listening because they tuned out at the menopause minute. But 640 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 3: if there's one person looked that look great stuff ten. 641 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: Great stuff nine point eight out. 642 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: Dot Hey everybody, and don't forget. Follow us on Instagram 643 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: at I Am all In podcast and email us at 644 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.