1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Podcast play Down. Welcome to Taking a Walk, an excursion 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: to converse, connect and catch up at a cool location 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: with some of the most interesting people you can find. 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: Here's plus night. So this is part two of Taking 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: a Walk here at Fresh Pond with my friend Steve Sweeney. 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: And we're having a great day here, a great walk, 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: great conversation, a lot of amazing dogs around. We're just 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: sitting here and this dog decided to rest next to us. 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: It's so cool, and he's he's breathing pretty heavy. He's uh, 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: he's got a big, big, big, big coat. Why don't 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: we walk again? Yeah, I've been sitting on the bench. 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Do you do you have a dog, Steve? I've got 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: two of them, and they're not happy that I'm here 14 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: without them. Believable, what kind of dogs. I got two goldens. 15 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: They're my third and fourth goldens, and they're wonderful. Zorba 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: and Layla. Now Laila's the greatest rock and roll song 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: of all the time. And then Zorba is my favorite 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: books over the Greek that's cool in the movie with 19 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Quinn Nikos cousin Zakas. That's awesome. I love to read. 20 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: That's one thing I love to do and I like 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: to read actual books. I don't like kindle and all that. 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: There's short there's something called short form that takes books 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: and reduces three hundred pages to ten. I don't think 24 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: we'll be a fan of that. But that's all plot. 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, when you read the book, you get into 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the feeling of the place and the language and the characters, 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: the dialogue. You know, do you remember the first time 28 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: you read Catcher in the Rye. Catcher in the Rye 29 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: was sort of first year in college. But the book 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: I think that really influenced me the most. I think 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: I was only like twelve, was of Mice and Men 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: by John Steinbeck, and I can remember weeping at the 33 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: end of it, really and that feeling of not wanting 34 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: a book to end. It was great. And rememberhen I 35 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: was a kid, like seven eight, there used to be 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: this series called Chip Hilton who was a sports guy 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: and played all these sports. Can you have those dreams? 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: That's why I picked Fresh Pond. When I was young. 39 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: I can remember being right over a spot to our 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: left and looking at the clouds, you know, lying down 41 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: looking at the clouds. You know how you do that? 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: And I said someday I want to go to Montana 43 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: and I did you know Glacier National Park up there. 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: So this was a place that I had a lot 45 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: of dreams and then in my height of my addiction, 46 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: came up here and did cocaine and it was so obscene, 47 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, because here we are in this beautiful natural spot. 48 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: But anyway, that was in the past. Did you know 49 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: it was? When was the moment that said I gotta 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: get on? It was a straight and narrow I mean, 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: did you have there was a moment? There was a 52 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: lot of them, but yeah, it was a moment. I 53 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: worked at Nick's Comedy stop and across the street was 54 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: this bar called Dominic's and the time it was the 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: combat zone, not the theater district. So I said, oh 56 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: my god, it just hit me. It's like when you 57 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: were in Sedona, Like it hit you and sometimes you 58 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: just know, you know, your mind keeps talking on with 59 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: the logical sense of this, but that feeling of knowing, yeah, 60 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: and it really hit me. I can't stop. I'm on 61 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: my third beer. I can't fucking stop. And it scared 62 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: the shit out of me, and I knew I was 63 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: like killing myself. So anyway, so the first time you 64 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: met these fairly guys, can you remember that? Yeah, there 65 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: was a guy. There was a guy named John Dennis. 66 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Remember John Dennis, Yeah, radio guy. He invited me to 67 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: play golf and I played with Bobby and Peter and 68 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: we hit it off right away. The eighties was a 69 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: big time to stand up and Peter knew me and 70 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Bobby knew me, and we're like great friends now. And 71 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Peter wrote me a text that I wish you could 72 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: frame texts that he said, thank you for this movie 73 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: disteller job, and he said you have inspired me for 74 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: a lot of years and said it was like, I 75 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: don't know how I did that, but it was because 76 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: he inspires me. He's the most generous person, absolutely brilliant. 77 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: If you saw Green Book, YEP, and all the comedies 78 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: and he's going in a different direction. That to me 79 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: is very inspiring when somebody takes their life and just 80 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: follows their own path and goes in another direction as 81 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: a serious director. And he's worked with everybody, and so 82 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I look back on my career. I worked with Denzel Washington, 83 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: John Travault, I was friends with George Colin. Uh, Peter Fark, 84 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't mean to body. You remember, Peter Parker, tell 85 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: you a quick story. I was did a movie called 86 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: on demand called The Money Kinks, so it was originally 87 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: called The Big So I would be doing that movie 88 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: during the week and then on weekends I'd come back 89 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: to the cow Loon to a shooting this in New York. 90 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: And Peter said to me at the end of the shooting, 91 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've known a lot of people. I met 92 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people in my business, but I gotta 93 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: tell you you, by far, by far, Sweeney, you are 94 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: the most fucked up human being. It was beautiful. When 95 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: I look back on it, I look on it as 96 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: a fan, you know, Like I did The Equalizer with 97 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: Denzel one night. I got to you know, we got 98 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: to talk and we were having a conversation, like you 99 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: and I are having a conversation. So I'm pretending I'm 100 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: just having a conversation in the back of my mind 101 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: saying I'm fucking talking to Denzel Washington, you know what 102 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I guess it'd be like talking to 103 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: Springsteen or something, because they become so much a part 104 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: of your life and then you meet them and they 105 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: want you to be normal. Well, so you know, what 106 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I'm gonna tell the story. Give me 107 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: an example of that. In your life, you've met a 108 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: lot of Yeah, well, I'm gonna give you an example 109 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: that it falls under the category of regrets. Okay. And 110 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: I don't really have tremendous regret. I'm grateful for my 111 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: life and what I had, and I'm probably not grateful 112 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: enough in some moments, but I try to practice gratitude. 113 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: But I do have a regret. We went to see 114 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Bob Dylan many years ago. This is Bob Dylan, right, 115 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean fucking Bob Dylan. And right before the show, 116 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: the label guy says, we're going upstairs. There's about nine 117 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: of us that were at dinner. We're going to go 118 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: see Bob. It's like no. So we go up there 119 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: and Bob was introduced to us and he makes eye 120 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: contact only then when he met us, and then no 121 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: eye contact after that. Yeah, but he does say to us, Eh, 122 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: anyone want to do a shadow whiskey? Oh really? Oh 123 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: good for him. No one did it. We were petrified 124 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: because we were saying, that's the voice of a generation. 125 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, have a shot. Like 126 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: everybody was afraid, which is kind of like, so I 127 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: kid with people saying, that's my only regret, and I 128 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: can't think of really many others. I wish I did 129 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: the shot with Bob, but you know, for all I know, 130 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: I would have made a babbling fool of myself and 131 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: embarrass myself in front of the voice of a generation. 132 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're very lucky to have. But you know, 133 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: he's a very private guy, and I can understand why 134 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: I saw him in sixty minutes. He said he was 135 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: trying to Ed Bradley was interviewing him, and he said, 136 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, even up here in Woodstock, he said, no 137 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: one leaves me alone. He said, they come to the door, 138 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: and this was you can look it up. In sixty minutes. 139 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: They asked me things about organic farming, and Ed Bradley says, 140 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: what do you know about organic farming? And he says, 141 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: not a thing. But he said he goes into a 142 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: restaurant and it's so weird because half the people are 143 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: trying to say, is that him? Is that not him? 144 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: It's hard to be Oh my god, it's got to 145 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: be incredibly hard. Did you get to check out the 146 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Beatles special? No, I want them? I have you know, 147 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: It's funny because I'm addicted to the Beatles and all that, 148 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: and when when they broke up, John Lennon to make 149 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: came up, it is so bitter and such a prick 150 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: and pissing on all the years they did. And then 151 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: I always liked Paul anyway. And it turns out George 152 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: has a dark side and the whole thing. So I 153 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: love the Beatles, you know, it's it's it's kind of 154 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: weird seeing them as human beings, isn't it. Yeah? And 155 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: I didn't see it, did you see it? Yes? I 156 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: absolutely loved it. And you see it you see them 157 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: as people in a different way. I mean they grew 158 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: up together, they were they were old daddies and like 159 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: in Charles Down or where you grew up. Yeah. And 160 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: you know what's cool about the special is they were 161 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: filming for this two week period pretty much everything. And 162 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: there are some people who say, well, they're mugging for 163 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: the cameras and they're they're they're not really in a natural, 164 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: you know sort of way. But the cameras were rolling constantly, 165 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: so you do see some you know, darkness, some you know, bitterness, 166 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: some you know, some some struggles. But one of the 167 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: great things about the Special and there's many is we 168 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: were always led to believe at that point that things 169 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: were really nasty thing right, and and you know what, 170 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: they were still undooling around. They clearly enjoyed being with 171 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: each other. So it really, what is she doing? She's 172 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: just sitting there on the fucking Yoko. She's just knitting. 173 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: She's like reading the newspaper. There's almost like a bit 174 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: you could do, what I mean, But why is she there? 175 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: George said that she clearly Uh, I don't know. It 176 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: feels like she just had to be there because John 177 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: was there. And John tell me to making a statement 178 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: a security blanket. It was a statement, but it didn't 179 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: seem to affect their collaboration. Well, you know, Ringo I 180 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: saw in an interview and he said he said to John, 181 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: he said, what the fuck is is this creeping me out? 182 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: It's never we never have anybody here. And then according 183 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: to Ringo, John explained it and then it was okay. 184 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: And Paul always puts a good spin on everything, and 185 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: he said he was glad they became friends again. But 186 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: Paul was on Howard Stern or something and he called 187 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: up Yoko and she's he said, you know, I think 188 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: John would want us to be nice to each other whatever, 189 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: And she said, well, don't do me any favors, and 190 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: so he said. I saw her as cold and pushy. Then, 191 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: of course, being Paul, he changes around. Now. I don't 192 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: see her that way, you know, right, Paul wants to 193 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: get along with everybody. Now, although did you hear he 194 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: called the Rolling Stones a blues cover band? You know, 195 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: I think that was blown out of proportion too, I 196 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: see see it's a SoundBite. Yeah. I mean, if you 197 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: say a thousand sentences and they take one, you know, 198 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, we we take our hero so seriously. 199 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: But I always liked Paul because he seemed to keep 200 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: it together and yeah, and he explained on how it starting. 201 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: He was trying to tell him we could lose all 202 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: our freaking money here with these lawyers and everything. You know. Yeah, 203 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: who were some of your other favorite I love Mark Knoeffler, 204 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: every one of his solo albums. And the first listening 205 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: I remember this when I was on the air. You 206 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: brought in Sailing to Philadelphia. Yeah, and we played that 207 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: song one song, and usually with his albums you listen 208 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: two or three times. But now it's just sometimes the 209 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: first time you hear something, you love it. But with 210 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: his albums, they grow on you and grow on you 211 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: and grow on you. Are you a Mark Knopfler fan? 212 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: Love Mark Knophlin? Yeah, absolutely, i'd agree. I agree with 213 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: you too. It's just it's like a fine you know, 214 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: a fine wine if you will. It's just it's amazing, 215 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: you know. Now. I like Man Morris and I'm a 216 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: huge fan, but I'm usually disappointed in his last maybe 217 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: five albums. Yeah, I just I don't know. My favorite 218 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: album of Van is Hymns to the Silence, which is 219 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: not everybody's favorite. It's a double white album. He's got 220 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: the Chieftains on it, and it's just it's great. So 221 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: I like Mark, I like Van. I love that The 222 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: Stones is still doing it. I mean, I can't believe 223 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: Mick Jagger is eighty and he's fucking running around the stage. 224 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: To me, that's inspiring. So I think music is so 225 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: amazing if you think about it, because it's this unifying 226 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: force right that you know, it pulls at your heart 227 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: and you could be crying at something that it's so 228 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: beautiful or touching or evokes a memory, or it just 229 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: lifts you up if you're in a down moment, and 230 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: just it's like it's an amazing elixir. It's you find 231 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: yourself listening to the same stuff all the time. I 232 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: do at times, but I go through cycles. I just 233 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: recently went through a big Steely Dan cycle and and 234 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, got my wife really interested in it. She 235 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: was never really a big Steely Dan fan. And then suddenly, 236 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing the fact that you can, you know, 237 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: get your so nos and play your music through there 238 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: and you know this idea of uh, you know, Spotify 239 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: or Apple. It's like going to Tower Records, and I 240 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: got to know, I got a recommendation for you. Yeah. 241 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: They're a country band, but they do covers. They called 242 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: the Mavericks. Oh yeah, so on play once. This guy 243 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: has got a voice that is otherworldly. It reminds me 244 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: of Roy Orbison. And they do a version of it 245 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: was right after one of those terrible shootings we have 246 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: of how Can You Break Break a Broken Heart? You 247 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: know by Beg's and they do Hungry Hot and their 248 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: whole band is just about joy. You know. They just 249 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: kind of like George thear are good. You know, it's 250 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: just a show yeah, well, it's been fun talking to you. Well, 251 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: my god, Steve, this has been really tremendous. Let's just 252 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: close on this, Okay. We've been taking a walk here 253 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: and Fresh Pond. Yeah, any other places you like taking 254 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: a walk and and could be in Boston, it could 255 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: be anywhere. I'll tell you a town that's always had 256 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: mystic like resonance for me. Lincoln. Lincoln to me is 257 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: like I was living here in Cambridge, cogswell Abb. We 258 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: go out there and say, like, this is the country. 259 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: You know, Lincoln reminds me of Vermont or whatever. It's 260 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful walk Lincoln Mass up by the the 261 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: COVID Museum or just a downtown. You've been there. I 262 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, that's where I live. It's beautiful. Yeah. 263 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: And then, of course when you get older, all you're 264 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: thinking about is how much were it costs to live 265 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: in this fucking place? You know? Yeah? Especially now, I 266 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: mean you know, but yeah, walking is a wonderful thing. 267 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful book called I don't forget what it's called, 268 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: but it's uh talking on the Appalachian Trail. You know 269 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: that guy that the travel writer and yep, yeah, well Steve, 270 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: thank you for taking a walk. I appreciate you your generosity. 271 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Are golf a good walk wasted right exactly. So it's 272 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: nice to reconnect and I wish you well, my friend. 273 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: You know what, We are just getting started. That's how 274 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I feel, you know, I feel like I'm just getting started. 275 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: Thanks for the inspiration and thanks for the friendship. All right, Buddy, 276 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: good health. Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, 277 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.