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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News.

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Speaker 1: I'm David Zeer. Thank you for joining the rap family.

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Speaker 1: the truth. An incredible week across the country here not

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Speaker 1: a lot of surprises, but the Democratic Socialist of America

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Speaker 1: on the rise across America, especially in New York City.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're being exploited, these young kids who can't

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Speaker 1: buy a house and are saddled with student loan debt,

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Speaker 1: and they're being told they're going to get free stuff,

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Speaker 1: but they fail to recognize that it's been generations of

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Speaker 1: policy by the Democrats that have caused these issues. And

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Speaker 1: in New York State publicans too. The spending's out of control.

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Speaker 1: But the Democratic policies in New York State and New

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Speaker 1: It's like Jay grivaras in charge, and oh wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: he is now in New York City, right, we're going

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Speaker 1: to get into the election and all that stuff. But

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome our first guest I'm so honored

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Speaker 1: to have with us, retired US Navy Lieutenant Commander Thomas E. Caldwell.

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Speaker 1: He's the author of a new book, The Mouths of

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Speaker 1: the Wicked, a true January sixth story of corruption, persecution,

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Speaker 1: survival and victory. Welcome to the show, sir, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having me daily. Yeah, I've been waiting

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Speaker 1: for the release of this book. I know, like this

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Speaker 1: week was the first time. Right, you're unveiling it and

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Speaker 1: appearing in media. You are living peacefully on a Virginia

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Speaker 1: family farm, and the FBI agents executed a pre dawn raid,

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Speaker 1: a swat raid.

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Speaker 2: What was the charge, Well, the charges were kind of

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Speaker 2: a moving feast. They kept changing things. They originally said

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Speaker 2: that I was a person who was the commander of

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Speaker 2: the Oathkeepers, an organization that they said was, you know,

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Speaker 2: a right wing organization that I stormed into the US

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Speaker 2: Capitol with a bunch of highly trained people to hunt

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Speaker 2: down congressmen. And of course that was all foolishness. But

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Speaker 2: those were the first charges that came out against me,

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Speaker 2: and over time those charges evolved because there was no

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Speaker 2: evidence that I did anything wrong that day, and so

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Speaker 2: it was just a matter of inventing some new things

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Speaker 2: they thought would stick for a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you claim that every single claim they had

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Speaker 1: against you.

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Speaker 2: Was false, right, That's absolutely true. And I would like

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Speaker 2: to tell your viewers that my j sixth story is

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Speaker 2: different from the story of every there January sixth defendant ever.

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Speaker 2: And in this book, I lay out all of the

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Speaker 2: information that has been blocked from the American people. I

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Speaker 2: brought the receipts, as they say, So I've got the documentation,

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Speaker 2: I've got the so called evidence and the actual evidence.

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Speaker 2: I make a pretty compelling story about what I considered

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Speaker 2: to be the only true conspiracy related to January sixth

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Speaker 2: yet proved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So everything we've been saying, just like you know,

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Speaker 1: Hillary and on the meetings to go after Trump in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, everything we've been saying from day one about

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Speaker 1: Jay six is true. And you know there was Antifa.

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Speaker 1: President John Sullivan knew it was going to happen. You know,

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Speaker 1: this was a setup, and they were Antifa n FBI

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Speaker 1: agents actually outside, you know, and with people on the

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Speaker 1: other side breaking windows of the Capitol. It wasn't Trump supporters.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't your average j six are there? And you

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Speaker 1: know also the youth keep I've interacted with oath Keepers

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Speaker 1: for decades, and you know they were assaulted the earth.

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Speaker 1: They were retired cops and firefighters. But you were never

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Speaker 1: a member of the oath Keepers. You never entered the Capitol,

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Speaker 1: you never planned an attack. And the government has admitted this. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 2: And they knew very early on that they had gotten

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Speaker 2: it wrong, and yet they came after me like they

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Speaker 2: came after no one else. They said that I was

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Speaker 2: the top banana, the big cheese, and I was the

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Speaker 2: mastermind of January sixth, even though they did absolutely no

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Speaker 2: investigation on me whatsoever before they sent a swat team

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Speaker 2: to our farm in Virginia, nearly chilled my darling wife

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Speaker 2: me away to solitary confinement. So one of the things

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Speaker 2: that was really chilling was my very first lawyer said,

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Speaker 2: the Dojane knows that you're innocent, but you know what,

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Speaker 2: they don't care.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen a change? You know? Trump? The Trump

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Speaker 1: administration supposedly is conducting a review of FBI leadership and

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Speaker 1: the four thousand agents who worked on the J six cases.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any confidence that things are going to

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that we're seeing some stuff dribble out.

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Speaker 2: But like most American citizens, I find myself a little

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Speaker 2: bit impatient with a new DOJ under Pambondi and the

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Speaker 2: new FBI under cash Betel. I think the American people

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Speaker 2: know that there's something that doesn't smell right, and they've

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Speaker 2: They're getting a lot of obfuscation, and people are getting

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Speaker 2: pretty much tired of that. And I will say that

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Speaker 2: all of that, all of that obfuscation and the lack

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Speaker 2: of accountability, that ends with this book, because I'll tell you, David,

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Speaker 2: I name names, and I tell people exactly what happened,

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Speaker 2: at least in my case. It's improper for me to

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Speaker 2: talk about anybody else this case, but I know my

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Speaker 2: case is very very well. I tell people who did what,

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Speaker 2: to whom and when they did it. And you better believe,

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Speaker 2: as a longtime intelligence officer in the employee of the

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Speaker 2: United States Navy supporting our country, I know how to

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Speaker 2: do my research, and I know how to pull things

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Speaker 2: people can follow and come to their own conclusions. This

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Speaker 2: with facts from front to back.

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Speaker 1: Well for me personally, and again, I was in charge

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Speaker 1: with any J six crimes and I wasn't through what

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Speaker 1: Cash for tell. I think a lot's going to happen

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of years with him. But we'll see, right,

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Speaker 1: we have to wait and see. But you have outstanding

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Speaker 1: military service. You're a decorated veteran right lieutenant commander in

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Speaker 1: the US Navy. Telestock really quickly about your military experience,

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Speaker 1: and then I want to talk about where people can

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Speaker 2: Well, I was an intelligence officer primarily for the twenty

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Speaker 2: I've written lots of lots of intelligence assessments and briefed

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Speaker 2: the power brokers in DC and within the Navy, a

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Speaker 2: and it was very rewarding work. And I would have

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Speaker 2: a really rough thing for me to deal with, especially

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Speaker 2: when I was charged with seditious conspiracy, which means the

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Speaker 2: attempt to overthrow the government, the government of the country

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Speaker 2: that you and I both loved so much, And it

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Speaker 2: really cut to the quick.

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Speaker 1: And because of your background, I'm assuming you corrected their

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Speaker 1: assumptions that you were doing all this stuff, right, you

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Speaker 1: corrected the record, Well, we sure did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we did a lot in federal court, and

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Speaker 2: yet the Department of Justice lawyers just kept coming at us,

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Speaker 2: and they lied, and they obfuscated, and they made up

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Speaker 2: of phony exhibits, and they suborned perjury. And they're all

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Speaker 2: operating under a thing called absolute immunity, David, which means

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Speaker 2: that they can do anything that they want to do,

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Speaker 2: and there's never any censure for them, and there's never

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Speaker 2: any corrective action that anybody can take against them. So

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Speaker 2: even when they were proved to be falsifying stuff during trial,

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Speaker 2: and it's all in the federal record and in the

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Speaker 2: transcripts of trial. They just kept feeling that stuff. And

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Speaker 2: so since there was never any evidence against me in court,

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Speaker 2: it seemed reasonable to call this book the mouths of

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Speaker 2: the Wicked because everything was coming from the fantasy canon

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Speaker 2: of the DOJ attorneys.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and you never even entered the capitol and they

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Speaker 1: called you a terrorist and an assassin. They're a disabled

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Speaker 1: veteran in your sixties and you treated you like a

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Speaker 1: You're a grandfather or a Christian, you're a decorated military member.

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Speaker 1: Why does the audience need to hear this? We have

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Speaker 1: a minute left. I'll give you the last word and

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Speaker 1: tell us where people can buy your book.

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Speaker 2: Thank you well. This is a story that a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't want the American people to hear. It's

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Speaker 2: going to blow away a lot of the presumptions that

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Speaker 2: they have about what happened in January sixth, and we

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Speaker 2: see a lot of information coming out slowly. This is

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Speaker 2: I hope send that forward. We want to educate people.

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Speaker 2: We want to give glory to God because it was

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Speaker 2: God who pulled us through when being innocent was not enough.

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Speaker 2: People can find this book at Puffinpublishers dot com. That's

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Speaker 2: PUFFI n Puffin Likethbird puffinpublishers dot com. We hope people

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Speaker 2: will read it. They'll find it enlightening at a minimum.

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Speaker 2: And somebody has to tell this story. Somebody has to

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Speaker 2: get the word out to the American people. And my

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Speaker 2: wife and I we endured so much and we kept

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Speaker 2: together with our faith and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 2: and we believe that this is a story that really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you were saying like even a

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Speaker 1: pardon doesn't bring full restoration for somebody. Where do you

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Speaker 1: get your good name back?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you so much, Thomas Calwell, retired

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant commander in the US Navy. Go out and get

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Speaker 1: the book today and we'll have you back. Okay, Thomas,

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Speaker 1: thanks David anytime. Thank you, sir. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: I just ask you what issues were important to you

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Speaker 4: Housing is important. I think that's something that affects all

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Speaker 1: How about you? What was the question again, what issues

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Speaker 5: I think affordability and I think mondonna campaign the way

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Speaker 2: About you?

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Speaker 1: How about you?

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Speaker 6: I agree with both of them. I think we live

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Speaker 1: So are you did you guys go to college here?

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Speaker 6: We do go to college.

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Speaker 1: Where do you go university? You're at Pace? Okay? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so housing three four five thousand a month, no matter

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Speaker 6: We all live off of campus, so we know what

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Speaker 6: it's like to pay rent in the city. And just

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Speaker 1: Sure, what about the prospect that you know zoron businesses

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Speaker 5: Oh my god? So like, for example, that guy that

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Speaker 1: Stillthieser Steed's, John Katzim, Like, leave go if.

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Speaker 7: You want to go.

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Speaker 5: No one likes your.

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Speaker 1: Built his business up from nothing.

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Speaker 5: So but no one likes his supermarkets anyway. He's a

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Speaker 5: more affordable housing? We need we have a housing crisis,

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Speaker 5: and you guys are.

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Speaker 1: You need a healthy economy and if there's no jobs,

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Speaker 6: I think that comes from even higher up. I think

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Speaker 5: And also there's so many people start about, there's so

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Speaker 4: And the mayor's race is so inconsequential compared to, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, the governor. The governor has more say about

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Speaker 1: Now on housing issues, it's more of the mayor than

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Speaker 7: Correct.

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Speaker 4: Correct, But you know there's a bunch of different things

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Speaker 1: Which do you think the burdens should be on small

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Speaker 5: Of course not. The small business shouldn't necessarily be taxed more.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think that that's necessarily When soar Run's message, oh, there's.

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Speaker 1: A threshold for you where somebody can absorb a bigger.

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Speaker 4: Hit, I mean, I think that's just taxes in general.

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Speaker 1: There's commonality between the MAGA movement, the young people in

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Speaker 1: You know, nobody can buy a house. You can't buy

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Speaker 1: And the student loans are out of control. These colleges

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Speaker 1: And here to discuss that. As Stefanoforte, he's a president

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Speaker 7: How are you, sir, I'm doing well now that I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm great. You know, M'm Donnie gives this speech.

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Speaker 1: I was saying, it's like Jaycovara and Edi, I mean,

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Speaker 7: Right, absolutely, they have much better lives here. But it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and seventy eight percent or so of young people

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Speaker 7: No, I think Unfortunately, when the stomach is hungry, the

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Speaker 7: They do not believe the United States is a place

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I listen, I have sympathy. I pay for

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, if this was a group of people that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we'll give it a year. The

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Speaker 7: What do you say, Yeah, look, it's unfortunate that people

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Speaker 7: I want to improve, not move. But I can understand

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 7: We have a corrupt state legislature. We have a governor

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Speaker 7: There are some common sense Democrats, but they haven't really

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you know Linda Sassoor, you know who's super radical,

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Speaker 1: I always compare them Donnie's speech right now to like

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Speaker 1: down the system and all this. It was over the

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Speaker 1: top here, Stephan, I want to give you the last word.

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Speaker 1: We have about thirty seconds and where can people follow you?

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Speaker 7: the president of the New York Young Republican Club. We

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Speaker 1: Yeah, check it out. Everybody got a big one coming

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Speaker 1: up from December. Stefanel, thank you for coming on and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 7: Thank you very much for having.

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Speaker 1: Me anytime, anytime. We'll be right back with more. Don't

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Breaking Point. You are watching Real America's

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Speaker 1: Voice News. Thank you for joining the Raft family. Crazy

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Speaker 1: week around the country. None of the elections or Prop

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Speaker 1: fifty or anything really surprised me. I think we all

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Speaker 1: knew Northern Virginia has lost forever in New York City,

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Speaker 1: They're just nuts. I don't think Cuomo campaigned hard enough.

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Speaker 1: Ma'm donnie and Sleewad did. And just remember the five

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Speaker 1: candidates under Sliwa on the ballot, including Sleewa's totals, still

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have amassed enough for Cuomo to overcome ma'm Donnie's lead.

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Speaker 1: So you know it's they're ripping down American flags already

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Speaker 1: in New York City, real estate agents are getting flooded

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Speaker 1: with calls. But here to move out of New York

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Speaker 1: and here to discus us all that. As my good friend,

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Speaker 1: we spent many many decades in New York and politics.

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Speaker 1: Adam Weiss host The Media Exposed. How are you.

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Speaker 8: I'm good there, Thanks for having me and exploring right

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Speaker 8: in hand in our state, right here in my city.

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Speaker 8: It's unusual times, but this is what we have for

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Speaker 8: the gen Z crowd, the millennial crowd, the socialist crowd.

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Speaker 8: People don't know it's a DSSA is part.

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Speaker 1: Of what it's called.

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Speaker 8: They also have the Working Families Party. That's another party,

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Speaker 8: and people don't know. Mostly of coachcross the country most states,

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Speaker 8: the two party is GOP Republican Democrat. Here we have

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Speaker 8: five seven different parties on the line. So Mandani ran

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Speaker 8: with two parties. He ran with the Working Families Party,

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Speaker 8: he ran with the Democratic Party. Cuomo ran with the

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Speaker 8: Independent Party, which was all the way down to the right.

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Speaker 8: So Eric Adams was still on the ballot because once

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Speaker 8: you say I'm out the current mayor, he couldn't. You

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Speaker 8: can't take his name off the ballot. So a lot

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Speaker 8: of moving parts working against Cuomo to begin with. And

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Speaker 8: Slee was stayed in the GOP nominee, which is his right.

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Speaker 8: He's the Republican nominee. Why should he be forced out?

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Speaker 8: Coulomo did registered Republican, he's not Republican, he's not conservative,

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Speaker 8: and he didn't reach out to conservatives.

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Speaker 1: David so Cuomo. He made New York State a sanctuary state.

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Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, fifteen thousand seniors died in the nursing

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Speaker 1: homes he signed in bail reform as governor, where thousands

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Speaker 1: of New Yorkers have been assaulted and attacked and some

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Speaker 1: killed because of that legislation that he signed. He also

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Speaker 1: said he's not going to cooperate with Ice, and you know,

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Speaker 1: so many things. So why would a Republican cross over

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Speaker 1: to vote for Cuomo?

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Speaker 8: And I had so many of my They sced the

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Speaker 8: gz's out of people so much that Madonna's going to

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Speaker 8: blow up the city Chase, you know, people away ruined

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Speaker 8: the city. That all the Republican moderates I knew friends

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Speaker 8: they were supporting Cuomo and and it proved. And Trump's

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Speaker 8: endorsement really hurt, I mean helped Cuomo because he won

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Speaker 8: statane on he went every district. I think SLA won

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Speaker 8: one of two districts, he won none, and Cuomo won

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Speaker 8: him big. So they really listed to Trump his endorsement,

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Speaker 8: and you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But for some they would never ever vote for Cuomo.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't campaign. He waited months to campaign on

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Speaker 1: the ground Slee and Mam Donnie. Mam Donnie had one

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand volunteers. They both campaigned in all three hundred

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Speaker 1: basically neighborhoods in New York City, and Clomo did not

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 8: Man Donnie's a great actor, great campaign. He stuck to message,

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Speaker 8: he stuck to a smile, and he had a basic

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Speaker 8: simple thing. Lower to food costs, get your free buses,

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Speaker 8: you know low, get free universal health care for children,

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Speaker 8: freeze the rent. Basic simple things that people can remember

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Speaker 8: that will help young people right out of college in college,

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Speaker 8: working hard. And it's pretty simple. It's a populism message

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Speaker 8: from the left and it worked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. I did exit polling and interview

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Speaker 1: people leaving the polls, and like these three girls from

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Speaker 1: Paie University, they're all white girls from suburbia, their parents

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Speaker 1: probably paying their rent. They were complaining about the prices

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Speaker 1: of Manhattan. But all those things are because of Democratic

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Speaker 1: policy and they don't get it. And they love Ma'm Donnie. Now,

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Speaker 1: Ma'm Donnie has this like cool person, cool cat, like Obahama,

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Speaker 1: you know cool, I'm a cool cat. And he ripped

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Speaker 1: off his mask at election night's victory party he turned

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Speaker 1: into Tyler Diurdin from Fight Club, trying to dismantle the

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Speaker 1: whole system. And his speech was like Edie I mean

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Speaker 1: and Shay Grivera had a kid and made a speech

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Speaker 1: in the Congo and a diamond mind about to overthrow

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Speaker 1: the government. But these immigrants aren't oppressed to New York City.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's oppressed. They have better lives in New York City

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Speaker 1: and America than any of them had in their countries

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Speaker 1: of origin. Right, So the.

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Speaker 8: Smiley gauging warm Mandannie dude left on election night, it

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Speaker 8: was this bitter angry attack mode.

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Speaker 1: Why are you bitter and angry?

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Speaker 2: You won?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like somebody wins the World Series or a

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Speaker 8: boxing match and you're angry, you're happy, you celebrate, you

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Speaker 8: have a hug to the loser. You welcome people in.

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Speaker 8: Cuomo was magnanimous. Cuomo said, people in the crowd at

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Speaker 8: Cuomo's a concession speech were booing, and he's to stop it.

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Speaker 8: We have to wish him well. I wish you well.

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Speaker 8: And that's the way you do it in America. And

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Speaker 8: why are you going after the president? Mac Donnie's going

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Speaker 8: after the president of the United States. The Chief Legal

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Speaker 8: officer of the NSIT and you're going after him hard.

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Speaker 1: On election night, I was recovering the election from CUOMO headquarters,

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Speaker 1: and I think everybody in the room knew that he

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Speaker 1: didn't have a chance, and I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 1: you know, and and by the way, mac Donnie's victory

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Speaker 1: party like as Jimmy failing fail And pointed out Brian

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Speaker 1: Kilmead that they were charging money for drink and they

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Speaker 1: had an expensive menu. So it's okay for those capitalists

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Speaker 1: to building learned, but not for us to go out

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Speaker 1: and eat in a restaurant.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the socialists couldn't give free drinks away. What

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Speaker 8: kind of party is this? There were no free drinks

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Speaker 8: when I went to a party twenty one years ago, David,

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Speaker 8: it was election night with a friend. He said, let's

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Speaker 8: go to It was Mark Green against Bloomberg. Yeah, Bloomberg

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Speaker 8: was running as a Republican. He said, let's go to

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Speaker 8: the Democrats party. I said, why I'm a Republican. He says, well,

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Speaker 8: the Democrats have better parties and the Democrats going to

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Speaker 8: win because they always win. And Rudy was a fluke.

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Speaker 8: I went to the Democrat party and I guess who

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Speaker 8: won the Republican and that's the last time we had

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Speaker 8: a Republican mayor twenty four years ago in New York.

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Speaker 1: Well, Giuliani won because he took the liberal line from

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Speaker 1: Ray Harding, and that's how he won the race even

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Speaker 1: though he was a Republican. But New York City was

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Speaker 1: in such bad shape that it made sense to get

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Speaker 1: behind him. I feel cleans.

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Speaker 8: Up, you know, I feel like when Deacons won and

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Speaker 8: we it might have been Shenanigans. You might have stole

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Speaker 8: from mood to the first time, who knows, but I

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Speaker 8: feel like this is the same type of moment Mandanni

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Speaker 8: wins and if his four bad years of criminals and

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Speaker 8: mayhem so a Republican swooping and actually win because I

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Speaker 8: got that mood. I feel like it's almost like Dinkin's

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Speaker 8: one again the way you meant that, Well.

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Speaker 1: You would think so, But Mamdannie wants to get rid

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Speaker 1: of the count of Terror unit in New York City,

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. And you know, we all know

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Speaker 1: that forty years of Islamic terror in New York are

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Speaker 1: going back to y Alfha Ruk Mosk in Brooklyn recruiting

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Speaker 1: for the Tally ban in the Majahaden in Afghanistan. I

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, there's eight hundred thousand plus Muslims

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Speaker 1: in New York City, Seventy eight percent of the young

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Speaker 1: people came out and voted from them. Donnie. I think

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Speaker 1: they are really going to do a lot of damage

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Speaker 1: in New York. And he's going to have all these

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Speaker 1: twenty and thirty year olds as aids in in the Mayor's.

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Speaker 9: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 8: And what do you think when there was conflict? I

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Speaker 8: remember the Hasidic community with the Black community broke out

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Speaker 8: during the Biggs administration, and they're such spineless people because

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Speaker 8: they don't have any hardcore strength, like Dinkins, didn't know

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Speaker 8: what to do.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the reason Juliani won.

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Speaker 8: Because Ice and those riots were happening, and crime was up,

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Speaker 8: and and this week and liberals, you know, a week

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Speaker 8: and Julie swopped in and he won this and he

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Speaker 8: won the rematch and Julian and one, I feel like

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Speaker 8: it's the same time. And watch when things go bad

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Speaker 8: and there's crime and Madonnie won't know what to do,

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Speaker 8: thirty four year old inexperienced and.

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Speaker 1: He's going to hire.

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Speaker 8: DSA people as his commission is. None of them are

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Speaker 8: going to know what to do. What it's gonna I

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Speaker 8: feel like it's going to be said.

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Speaker 1: But they passed totter revisions in this election in New

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Speaker 1: York City, and on the ballot was motions to to

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Speaker 1: give the mayor more power and strip away the rights

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Speaker 1: of the city Council UH, to rezone properties quicker, and

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Speaker 1: to expertite building permits they pay builders and affordable housing.

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Speaker 1: They all passed. And you know it's really bad because

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Speaker 1: you know, M'm Donnie's going to go on this blitz

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Speaker 1: to build all this publicly funded affordable housing and all

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Speaker 1: this stuff, and all these builders got behind him and

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Speaker 1: big labor, and they're going to make millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: So why are his millionaires better than Trump's millionaires?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 8: As long as he can give it in the pockets

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Speaker 8: of affordable housing billionaires?

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Speaker 1: Right, millionaires? Yeah, give you the last word at him.

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Speaker 1: Why sum this all up for us?

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Speaker 8: You know, it's not unexpected what happened in New York.

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Speaker 8: You know it is this democratic town, a huge democratic town.

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Speaker 8: We don't win. It's very difficult to win. You know,

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Speaker 8: I wanted to give to Mandnnie the benefit of doubt

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Speaker 8: because a lot of scare tax. He was really getting

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Speaker 8: attacked hard. I thought some of it was kind of unjust, unfair,

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Speaker 8: call him all sorts of names and you know, using

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Speaker 8: But I might been wrong because that election night's victory

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Speaker 8: speech was mean and bitter, and hopefully it is a

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Speaker 8: better call. Somebody comes out and says, Madonnie, you wont

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Speaker 8: you the mayor elect treat people a bit of dignity

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Speaker 8: and he welcome more people in.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump should invite him to the White House.

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Speaker 1: And young DSA members who are being misled and exploited

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Speaker 1: by the communists, they probably they can't buy houses, you know.

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Speaker 1: A Very Convenient Warming.

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Speaker 9: Welcome to the show. Well, good to be back on

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Speaker 9: with you, David. Yeah, there's a lot to go over

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Speaker 9: here as usual.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, it's like everything else, the truth

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Speaker 1: shall set you free, or you know, the truth eventually

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Speaker 1: comes out. There's only so much hyperbole that you can take.

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Speaker 1: And so tell us what's going on. A lot of

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the biggest, biggest name, of course, was Bill Gates,

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Speaker 9: and he came out and he said, you know, I

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Speaker 9: to spend trillions of dollars. Fine, well he didn't say

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Speaker 9: a non existent problem. I call it a non existent problem.

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Speaker 9: But spending trillions of dollars to try and keep the

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Speaker 9: earth from warming another tenth or so degree of warming

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Speaker 9: from additional co two. In fact, he said this was

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Speaker 9: of Parties meeting in Brazil, which they have every year.

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Speaker 9: The climate alarmis, I'll get together and what the bed

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Speaker 9: together at the same time, these bed climate bedwetters. But

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Speaker 9: what he said was, you know, if you ask me

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Speaker 9: what I sacrifice a tenth of a degree of warming

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Speaker 9: or eradicate malaria, he said, well, I'll take malaria eradication

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Speaker 9: over a tenth of degree of warming, and it's common sense.

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Speaker 9: I think he's he's got his heart in the right place.

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Speaker 9: He doesn't do things exact exactly as what you and

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Speaker 9: I would do. For example, he's he's huge, huge, he's

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Speaker 9: a big proponent of vaccines, worldwide, vaccinations from Central America.

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Speaker 9: So everyone needs vaccinated and we need it now. But

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Speaker 9: and that's what he's going to here. One of the

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Speaker 9: big effects that the Bill Gates effect will be he

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Speaker 9: is already pulling his many hundreds of billions or hundreds

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Speaker 9: fund these the climate industrial complex as we call it,

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Speaker 9: all these groups that are really well funded because of

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Speaker 9: Bill Gates. He's pulling that funding. People are really worried.

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Speaker 9: They didn't like it, but he's finally I've been saying,

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Speaker 9: and you've had me on many times before. I've been

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Speaker 1: The truth never backed down, the truth will win out.

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Speaker 9: I was confident I have the facts, the science, and

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Speaker 9: the data on my side. He does not. And so

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Speaker 9: it's me and my colleagues at the CO two coalition.

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Speaker 9: We've got nearly two hundred of the top scientists in

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Speaker 9: the world. We're scientists and we stick with the science.

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Speaker 9: We try and stay out of the politics as much

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Speaker 9: as we can. And I'm very, very confident that we

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Speaker 9: are correct that the warming. We're in a warming trend,

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Speaker 9: no doubt, for sure. It has been war for more

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Speaker 9: years before that, and so the warming that we're seeing

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Speaker 9: most likely predominantly naturally driven, maybe a little contribution of

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Speaker 9: there is a little contribution from CO two driven warming,

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Speaker 9: but it's a minor component. When you look back through

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Speaker 9: history and through time, and so you know the truth

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Speaker 9: is going to win out.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 9: We've had discussions with my colleagues. You know, why did

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Speaker 9: Gates do this? I'd like to think that he finally

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Speaker 9: the predictions that have been made and have all not

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Speaker 9: come to pass, these horrible catastrophic predictions, and perhaps I

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Speaker 9: and now they're still going ballistic. Just last week we

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Speaker 9: point was just reached.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coral.

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Speaker 2: Coral of the coral.

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Speaker 9: Reefs around the world are either dead or dying. That's

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Speaker 9: categorically and easily it's categorically false. It's easily disproven, he pointed.

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Speaker 9: They pointed to the Great Barrier Reef. In twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 9: coral cover. Twenty twenty four had the record high level

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Speaker 9: of coral cover in just in last year, in twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty four, and they're trying to claim that it's dead

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Speaker 9: and dying. It's not. And what they do and what

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Speaker 9: they don't understand, they're saying it's getting too hot for

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Speaker 9: the corals. Well, the greatest coral reef and biodiversity of

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Speaker 9: corals and marine fishes is north of the Great Barrier

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Speaker 9: Reef and the Coral Triangle, and it's three degrees center

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Speaker 9: grade warmer there than at the Great Barrier Reef. And

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Speaker 9: we know that every degree of warming equates to about

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Speaker 9: So the warmer it is, the faster they grow. That,

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Speaker 9: I mean, corals like it hot, and the hotter the better.

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Speaker 9: And it just we just couldn't point to one false

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Speaker 9: claim after another. Yeah, their claim, we've got a limit

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Speaker 9: to one and a half degree celsius warming or it's

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Speaker 9: you know, you know what's.

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Speaker 1: Going to Well, even if the US disappeared off the

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Speaker 1: face of the earth, it would only affect like one

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Speaker 1: tenth of one degree by twenty one hundred or something

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Speaker 1: like that. If all our industry disappeared, you know, so

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Speaker 1: others have joined and followed suit the Breakthrough Institute. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about some others that have moved away from it.

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Speaker 9: Tess break for the Institute. He called himself a climate

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Speaker 9: activist and was, and he came out almost the same

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Speaker 9: and said basically the same thing, but more strenuously that

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Speaker 9: you know, he's been wrong about climate crisis. He's been

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Speaker 9: wrong about all these things. They're not going to happen,

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Speaker 9: and he's walking it back. Even Kathy Hochell in New York,

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Speaker 9: as Governor of New York, has walked back her attempts

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Speaker 9: to regulate the planet's temperature. She says the people of

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Speaker 9: New York can't afford it.

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Speaker 1: And well, we need natural gas, and should we need

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Speaker 1: to frack?

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Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, And I know a little bit about that.

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Speaker 9: I wrote. I co authored the first paper on the

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Speaker 9: Marcella shale. And so you may not be where New York.

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Speaker 9: There's only Broome County, which is right up against Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 9: It's got great potential, but that's about it. It's a

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Speaker 9: very small area of New York that has good potential

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Speaker 9: for fracking. Now, bear in mind the people of Broome

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Speaker 9: County would. You've got people there that could be multi

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Speaker 9: millionaires if it was allowed. You know, they're probably needing

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Speaker 9: to mortgage the farm because they can't frack and they

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Speaker 9: can't get the money that could be coming from a

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Speaker 9: development of the Marcella shale that's underneath their properties. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And another big thing that happened a week and a

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Speaker 9: half ago. Chairman of the CO two coalition is doctor

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Speaker 9: William Happer of Princeton, emeritus professor at Princeton of Physics.

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Speaker 9: He and Richard Lindzen of MIT, another emeritus professor at

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Speaker 9: MIT of Physics. We're on the Joe Rogan Show and

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Speaker 9: there's been some five million, we estimate viewers of their

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Speaker 9: two hour and twenty minute interview with Joe Rogan. And

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Speaker 9: so they provided the much needed information to nearly five

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Speaker 9: hundred and five million people that have never heard this before.

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Speaker 9: And it's we're trying to get that information out and

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Speaker 9: when the damn breaks. By the damn, I mean we've

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Speaker 9: been effectively silenced. Me we being skeptic scientists. They're telling

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Speaker 9: the truth about climate change. They've effectively silenced us, haven't they.

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Speaker 9: And I think the damn's breaking now people are being

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Speaker 9: open to our our facts that are facts. You know,

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Speaker 9: facts are facts. You can't have your set of facts

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Speaker 9: and then somebody else has their set of facts. Is

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Speaker 9: warming good?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 9: And if you say it's bad, you're wrong. And I

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Speaker 9: can tell you why. And it's because history tells us

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Speaker 9: that the warming trends are hugely beneficial.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I was listening to Alon Musk, you know,

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Speaker 1: saying that we're not going to reach any dangerous levels

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Speaker 1: of particulates in the atmosphere from industry for at least

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Speaker 1: another hundred years. And so there was somewhere and what's

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Speaker 1: up with that? We have two minutes. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: the last word.

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Speaker 9: No, Elon's he doesn't know what deck he's talking about.

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Speaker 9: He needs to shut up about climate and things like

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Speaker 9: that are particulars have nothing? Are particular in the atmosphere

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Speaker 9: cleaner that's been probably since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Elon,

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Speaker 9: It's he's can flat. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but all right, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 9: If you go go to CO two Coalition to learn more,

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Speaker 9: learn the facts, or go get my new book, which

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Speaker 9: is a very convenient warming If you just google or

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Speaker 9: search for convenient warming. Those two words. I highly recommend.

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Speaker 9: It's an easy read and you can learn about how

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Speaker 9: modest warming and more co two are benefiting humanity. It's

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Speaker 9: what I call the greatest untold story of the twenty

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Speaker 9: first century.

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Speaker 1: So you see a lot of these storms hitting out

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Speaker 1: of the cities and stuff, but there's more development, right,

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Speaker 1: there's more impervious surface around, so flooding's going to happen, right,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, the storms aren't hitting cities more often, they

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Speaker 9: get more reporting of them. Landfalling hurricanes in the United States,

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Speaker 9: we have good records going back to eighteen fifty. They're

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Speaker 9: slightly in decline, not increasing. And the good news is

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Speaker 9: since Donald Trump renamed the Gulf of America, there has

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Speaker 9: not been one landfalling hurricane hit the United States. How

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Speaker 9: about that. Yeah, that's an important point right there, and

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Speaker 9: you can take that to the that's a fact.

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Speaker 1: Well, so, so much going on. I always appreciate your insight.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on. I want

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Speaker 1: to discuss this further and we'll have you back, all right, Greg,

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Speaker 1: all right, David, thank you, all right, and the planet

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Speaker 1: will still be here when we have you again. So

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Speaker 1: that's good news. Thank you so much, and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, everybody, Thank you for joining us,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for watching Breaking Point. I think that the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Socialists of America are definitely on the rise, but

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Speaker 1: the Trump economy is going to kick in pretty soon

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Speaker 1: because if interest rate has come down another fifty one

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Speaker 1: hundred basis points too, people will be able to stop

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Speaker 1: borrowing money to build new stuff to refinance their business.

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Speaker 1: That's been the problem for five years. It's been terrible.

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Speaker 1: So I think things are going to get better in

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Speaker 1: this country and things are going to start to drop

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Speaker 1: in price, more people have opportunity. It'll probably quiet the

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Speaker 1: DSA movement down for a while. I'm David Zier. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice, New