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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the Blackout to this podcast. Your host

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Speaker 2: How about this teacher has been fired after students found

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Speaker 2: Miranda said she doesn't understand why she got terminated. It's

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Speaker 3: Come on, how dare you turn this on me? I'm

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Speaker 3: Middle school math teacher if Belleport, New York, said she

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Speaker 3: was unfairly fired after student got ahold of a topless

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Speaker 3: selfie photo she took three years ago. Now, how did

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Speaker 4: She did not send it directly to the student. So

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Speaker 2: Laura Moranda twenty five, said that she sent a topless

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Speaker 2: It's pure I'm getting makeup in one hand and I'm

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Speaker 3: That picture was never posted. How it got out is

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Speaker 5: She didn't post it online, praying it the picture was

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how if she's a victim of someone

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Speaker 2: I mean there's literally laws against that, or like, shouldn't

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Speaker 3: This kid's hands?

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Speaker 4: Why sexism?

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with my image? And then she says

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Speaker 2: of three million dollars suit a legend gender discrimination unless

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Speaker 2: she gets her job back. Ray said his client is

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Speaker 3: These hitters are spectacular, we should be happy about it.

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Speaker 2: I find that defense to be kind of weak as

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Speaker 3: You know? Now there's people that go, well, if you

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Speaker 2: I feel like at this point in society we are

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Speaker 2: There should be a level of trust and that what

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Speaker 3: With the picture. We should come down on whoever got

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Speaker 5: not expect you to put it online, and you know,

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Speaker 5: and all it does. It actually hurts everybody, and everybody

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Speaker 5: don't like to see to the picts and ass picks.

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Speaker 5: It hurts everybody because now you've got people going, I'm

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Speaker 5: to you, how do I not know? I lose my

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Speaker 5: to be like, well why did you do this?

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be why did you take the picture?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: The other thing I would throw out there too, I

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Speaker 2: how can you tell?

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Speaker 3: Cam with that on? How can you tell?

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Speaker 2: Because I had the way I was going with this,

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Speaker 2: lawyer's uh, you know defense. That's like white people's stuff

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Speaker 3: Should be able to walk around with they titties out.

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Speaker 5: To kids and that's fine, and that would be my

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Speaker 4: The fuck you gave my my my picture to these kids.

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Speaker 3: Right, like that's our problem.

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Speaker 2: Like that's such a I don't know, like I'm not

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this must be a white.

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Speaker 5: I'd be like, oh, bitch, if I'm losing my job, motherfucker,

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Speaker 5: you are too. Why didn't y'all hold him accountable? How

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Speaker 2: Ye, sister would have had to threaten to cut somebody

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, the attitude towards titties would have been the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just such a funny defense.

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's maybe it's not her defense because her

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Speaker 2: Because I'm like, I mean, I guess if that's what

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Speaker 3: But I don't think you're gonna. I don't know. I mean, I.

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Speaker 5: Uh, go ahead, and it is a form of discrimination

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Speaker 5: because I would sue you for not holding him accountable

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Speaker 4: That's what I was doing you for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't I don't get how that part

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Speaker 2: what about the fact that your picture has been distributed

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Speaker 5: Even the school system is skipping over that, and they

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Speaker 4: Want a child?

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Speaker 4: Okay? A child got it. It is a problem that

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Speaker 5: Got in this child's hands. So until we address that,

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Speaker 2: And I do understand it's a tough physician to be

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Speaker 2: to that, Like you would have to have a teacher

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Speaker 2: condone and encourage. I'm sure it's more complicated than what

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Speaker 2: the fuck I'm saying, Like, maybe there's some other solution

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Speaker 2: I don't understand, like moving her to a different school

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Speaker 2: don't know what the right thing to do here. It's

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Speaker 2: just not the wrong thing to do with the fire.

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Speaker 2: The woman who clearly has is the one who's had

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Speaker 2: of the teachers there are really allowed to send like

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Speaker 2: And maybe and maybe the school's argument will also be, well,

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Speaker 2: that's what the school would say, which I would understand

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Speaker 2: that a little bit more. But then in that case,

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Speaker 2: why isn't the guy getting fired as well? He was

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Speaker 2: in a relationship too, and clearly the picture got distributed.

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Speaker 3: Well, the school could also believe she's lying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't even think about that, So the school

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Speaker 2: You know, he's saying he didn't, you saying you didn't,

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Speaker 3: And fire him too.

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Speaker 5: Then that's my thing, Like I said, if I'm out

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Speaker 5: of a job, nigga, you is to everybody lost their

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Speaker 5: fucking job, right?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: And why isn't a student in trouble? Right?

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Speaker 3: I don't understand the story.

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Speaker 4: And and and it's very frustrating.

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Speaker 5: And I know I don't have kids in the school

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Speaker 2: And this is before the parents. They did an interview

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Speaker 2: the parents did it. The school just did it like

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Speaker 4: Right, because they don't want to deal with the parents.

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Speaker 5: They like, they're like, we don't want to deal with

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Speaker 4: So my thing is, Okay, I lose my job.

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Speaker 5: Everybody team needs to be fired, everybody, not just one party,

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Speaker 5: not just the woman because you want to get rid

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Speaker 5: you get rid of the problem.

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Speaker 4: What about the nigga to put my picture out there?

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Speaker 4: That's a fucking problem.

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Speaker 2: Airbnb guess foul hitting surveillance camera by scanning Wi Fi

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Speaker 3: Oh it seems like we.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it seems like this is a kind of commonplace

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Speaker 3: We keep coming up with stories like this.

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Speaker 2: Now, sure Airbnb is a I mean global thing at

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Speaker 2: they only really can regulate it to someone that's caught

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Speaker 2: being offended, So I don't know what they can do

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Speaker 2: have these A New Zealand family that booked an Airbnb

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Speaker 2: Once the family had unpacked, Andrew Barker, who works at

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Speaker 2: IT Security, scanned the house WiFi network. The scan unearthed

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Speaker 2: monoxide detector. Nellie Barker posted an image on Facebook showing

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Speaker 4: And that's because he's an IT person, like that's his job.

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Speaker 5: So but the average person wouldn't have thought about that

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Speaker 3: I know, I wouldn't I know. Yeah. And the thing

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Speaker 2: They got caught because they didn't hide the camera from

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Speaker 3: The other part of it is.

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Speaker 2: This was surreptitiously put in there. Who knows how many

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Speaker 2: and they're on somebody's camera, right, you know. And this

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Speaker 2: from the camera. The bottom is the view of the family.

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind, I mean there could be children that

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Speaker 2: person may feel like it's up there for security or something,

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Speaker 2: but that's not in the agreement that you get to

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Speaker 2: survey on me. We're not certain which of the two

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Speaker 2: the one on the left appears to be similar surveillance

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Speaker 2: to surveillance cameras that are designed to look like smoke detectors.

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Speaker 2: We contracted Neelie Barker for more details on how the

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Speaker 2: family discovered the camera. Video feed will update the story

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Speaker 2: we get a response, it's an update. Andrew Barker told

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Speaker 3: The one, Okay, I'll see which one it is.

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Speaker 2: If you zoom in, you can see the tissue paper

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Speaker 2: lens while we worked out what to do. Barker said

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Speaker 2: that he used the Android apps to do networking portscans

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Speaker 2: of the wireless network. Port eighty was opened as soon

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Speaker 2: as I connected with my browser, up popped the video

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Speaker 3: I used the feed to locate the camera in that

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's some id shit that he even discovered this.

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Speaker 2: Mostly most people will not figure this out. The family

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Speaker 2: The host initially hung up, but later called back and

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Speaker 2: told them the camera delivery was only was the only

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Speaker 3: We felt an.

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Speaker 2: Immediate violation of our privacy and the private residents we

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Speaker 2: cameras at Airbnb rentals in twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the website ours Technica Airbnb and missmistake

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Speaker 2: They didn't seem to grasp the seriousness of the issue.

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Speaker 2: They were treating it like it like a canceled booking. Right, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you guys want to cancel your booking. This nigga is

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Speaker 2: Airbnb temporary suspended the listening and promised to investigate, but

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Speaker 2: when Barker contacted Airbnb Began two weeks later, the company

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Speaker 2: told her the host had been exonerated and the listing

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Speaker 2: was reinstated. How do you exonerate him?

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Speaker 3: Not my camera?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: What is the exoneration on that? Airbnb find only banding

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Speaker 2: the host. After Nellie Barker posted about the disturbing incident

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Speaker 5: Somebody got to go online and be like, y'all see

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Speaker 5: proactive than this?

443
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 2: They have to get embarrassed into responding. Once your story

444
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 2: goes viral. Remember the woman who like the guy came

445
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: to the house and like shit all everything and she

446
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 2: felt threatened, and then she told Airbnb and they basically

447
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 2: didn't do anything.

448
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 3: The police didn't do anything.

449
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 2: And then finally when the story went viral, Airbnb like,

450
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: we need to take this guy off the host anything,

451
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 2: you know. I think there was another woman whoever the

452
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 2: guy found out on Airbnb was like sexually harassing her

453
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: and went by the house when she wasn't when he

454
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: was when she was there, and same thing Airbnb was

455
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 2: until it goes viral and they're like, Okay, we can

456
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to do something with this scary as hell.

457
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 5: And somebody maybe who never used the service going, I

458
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 5: don't think I will ever use the service. I just

459
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 5: go into a regular fucking ass hotel and paid the

460
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 5: high exorbited prices then, because it's just not worth the

461
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 5: being in somebody's home and not knowing if they're recording

462
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 5: you or not not knowing what's here or not.

463
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: I'm not it. I don't know right the AIRBNBA investigation

464
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: Airbnb investigations, which didn't include any follow up with US,

465
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 3: exonerated the hosts. No explanation provided.

466
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: The listing with the hidden camera was not mentioned, and

467
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 2: it's still on Airbnb. Airbnb said they made a mistake

468
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 2: and responded again, our original handling of this incident did

469
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,239
Speaker 2: not meet the high standards we set for ourselves, and

470
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: we have apologized to the family and fully refunded their stay.

471
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: We asked Airbnb how long the offending host was written

472
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: out the place, but the company didn't answer. Their policy

473
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: says that a host must disclose any type of surveillance

474
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: device in listings, even if it's not turned on or

475
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 2: hooked up. Cameras are allowed in certain spaces if they

476
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: are disclosed, but Airbnb prohibits any surveillance devices that are

477
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: in or that observe the interior of certain private spaces,

478
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 2: such as bedrooms and bathrooms, regardless of whether they've been disclosed.

479
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: If a host disclosed to the device after booking, Airbnb

480
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: will allow of guests to cancel the reservation, ever receive

481
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: a refund. Host cancelation penalties may apply. Man, you could

482
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: there's so much shit that could be on you, just

483
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: if you smoke weed. Hey, this motherfucker smoking weed in here.

484
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 2: Condar cops, you know, like all kinds of shit, man, Like,

485
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: that's so wild.

486
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

487
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 2: Maybe this kind of shit happens at hotels all the time,

488
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 2: we just don't know about it.

489
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

490
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 2: Airbnb seems to be like a heavy offender of just

491
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: weirdos in their private house doing weird shit to fucking

492
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 2: unsuspecting people.

493
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know the thing.

494
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 5: I mean, I know hotels fuck up to now, but

495
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 5: you know, at least with the hotel, I got a

496
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 5: downstairs desk, somebody I can put my hands on it.

497
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 5: But like, hey, motherfucker, something not right right here right now?

498
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: Right? It is crazy, I mean because people.

499
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: I think people get so defensive about Airbnb because they

500
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: use it, and so then they start making excuses. But

501
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 2: if you pay money, this should not be acceptable to you.

502
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 5: Right, It's okay to use the service, but you're going

503
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 5: I shouldn't you. You should not be allowed to record

504
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 5: me without my consent.

505
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: It should bother the fuck out of you that somebody

506
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: could just be like, well, you know, uh people, you know,

507
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: people be wilding out in these rooms. Sometimes I just

508
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: need to have it, okay, but without telling me. If

509
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: it's so old and up and up, then just tell me, Hey,

510
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: I record everything going on in the living room. Allow

511
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: me the option as a customer to be like, I

512
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: don't want to stay there, you know. I don't know, man,

513
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: it seems kind of kind of suspicious to me, So

514
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. Be careful man out there. This shit

515
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: is crazy.

516
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: Man.

517
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: My best friend forever turned out to not be forever.

518
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh shit, But here's why I'm okay with I break up. Okay,

519
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 2: So on Bustle dot com last year, one of my

520
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: closest friends unceremoniously dumped me. It's more complicated than that.

521
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: Friendship is often a Maryland and I met in Santa

522
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: Fe and Too thou seven. We both just moved there.

523
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: I came from the East coast, she came from the west.

524
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: She was wearing black converse high tops of pink laces,

525
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: and she was tollsling and beautiful. The first time I

526
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: saw her, I knew we would be friends. Call it

527
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: fate or the optimism of being twenty three. Either way,

528
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: I had consummated my dream of moving to the Southwest,

529
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: and everything was possible.

530
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 3: Maryland was six years older, just a year shot thirty.

531
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: The first time we hung out, she drove us to

532
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: a black jeep Liberty in Ojo Caliente, a hot spring

533
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: paradise forty five minutes north of Santa Fe.

534
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: We told our life stories in the car on the

535
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 3: way up.

536
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: We were best friends by the time we drove back.

537
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: The sky a shimmering shade of purple. Santa Fe is

538
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: so famous.

539
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: For Oh, white woman wrote this? Who wrote this?

540
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 3: Of course, a white women wrote this.

541
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: Ar not to say this sound like a Yelp review.

542
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: And so began one of the most important friendships of

543
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: my life. For three years, we were inseparable. We moved

544
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: to San Francisco to a ten grad school to become

545
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: when she moved to San Francisco to a ten grad

546
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: school to become a therapist.

547
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: We stayed close for another seven years.

548
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: For the last five years of our friendship, we didn't

549
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: see each other, but we spoke on the phone and

550
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: FaceTime regularly during that time. I moved back to New

551
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: York in twenty sixteen. Maryland got married in the tiny

552
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: family ceremony and asked if I would come out spend

553
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: a few days with her to celebrate a few months

554
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: after her wedding, in early twenty seventeen, I flew out

555
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: to San Francisco. Stayed with her for a couple of days.

556
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: Though we tried, nothing felt the same. Our friendship had changed.

557
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: I felt uncomfortable in her home.

558
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: We couldn't connect the way we used to. I had

559
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: changed and she had changed.

560
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: And the changes were relatively undetectable three thousand miles away,

561
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: but they were glaringly apparent in real life. I cut

562
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: my stage short. We emailed a couple of terse emails

563
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: and lost touch. After a few months passed, I attended

564
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: to a few times to get in touch. I felt

565
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: if I felt conflicted, I missed her, but I didn't

566
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: know if I missed Maryland the person or Maryland the memory. Eventually,

567
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: about a year after about a year, she agreed to

568
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: meet for coffee. While I was in the city. The

569
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: day of our meeting, my boyfriend and I sped all

570
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: the way from Big Sir, so I would make it

571
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: to the coffee shop on time.

572
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: When we pulled up.

573
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: Maryland was sitting outside where her denim jumps suit at lipstick,

574
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, maybe we could work this out.

575
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 3: From the the jump student, jump suit, the lipstick. What

576
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: was going on with this? She was, I don't know

577
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 3: where they love us.

578
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: She was dressed up that day, so I said, maybe

579
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: we can't still be friends.

580
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: Very superficial.

581
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: We wound up in her office, sitting on the floor.

582
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: We ate her while she ate her lunch. She had

583
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: an hour between appointments. I thought we were needed to

584
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: catch up and figure out our friendship. What we launched

585
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: it to a strange She launched to a strange tirade

586
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: about her incapacity for friendship. I considered the possibility I

587
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: may represent something that Maryland's unwilling to enable to have

588
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: in her life, or reminder that she was once young

589
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: and untained.

590
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 3: Oh bitch, this is that's shade. That's that's that's sound.

591
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: I was kind of judging of Maryland, like you, oh

592
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: washed up hoe. I think I'm symbolizing something you just

593
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: can't have. No mo youth and beauty, what mixed the older?

594
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: That's the real problem. Okay, you broke and you busted.

595
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: Look at your life, looking at me much remind you

596
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: of everything you could have had, but you don't anymore because.

597
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: You're old and you tired. Okay, what is what is this?

598
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: At first? At first I was upset.

599
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: I took it personally, even though I don't actually think

600
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: it was personal, she expressed it. These days, she spends

601
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: time with her husband and their dogs and her family

602
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: from time to time. From everything I know about her,

603
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a lot. She told me that

604
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: friendships just don't hold wait for her.

605
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: Anymore that have priorities has shifted. Now, see, this is

606
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: my personal feeling.

607
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: I feel like Maryland was trying to come clean to

608
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: you and be like, yo, this is why I haven't

609
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: been as tight with you as of late.

610
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: And you know, like it's not personal.

611
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm just really into my world over here, and I'm

612
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: just not having a lot of friendships right now and

613
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: not deep meaningful ones because I'm trying to develop my

614
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: family and everything else.

615
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's real.

616
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: And the thing is, as you grow older, relationships change,

617
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: the importance of relationships change.

618
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: And it's one of those things.

619
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: Where you know, like us, we actually kick to ourselves,

620
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 5: like you know, we do go and do things, but

621
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 5: we keep to ourselves a lot.

622
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: You know, family have things.

623
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: I may or may not go to it because you know,

624
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 5: the podcast is my baby and that's first and foremost.

625
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 5: And that's kind of hard. When relationships change. Sometimes people

626
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: aren't willing.

627
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 4: To always adjust.

628
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: You know.

629
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: Another thing I'll throw out there, and this is not

630
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: to disparage anybody, but sometimes when you're in a relationship,

631
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: you're married or whatever, or you're calvially committed, single people

632
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: have single people shit.

633
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah they do.

634
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: And that's not a knock on them. Everybody when they

635
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: were single had their own single people shit. But sometimes,

636
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: like for single people, like they put a little bit

637
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: more time into friendships and stuff like that, and until

638
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: they get their own type of shit popping, and then

639
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I don't call everyone to check on

640
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: people anymore because I got my man or I got

641
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: my woman now and we're doing out. We're going out

642
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 2: doing a couple shit, you know, and we're not you know,

643
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: we're working on us.

644
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: Right.

645
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: People have children.

646
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 5: A lot of times relationships change, you know, it's a

647
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 5: lot of things people like she say, move it causes

648
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: relationships to change too.

649
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not saying that's what happened here, but

650
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: that could be a possibility. And she might not have

651
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: been trying to make a strange tier race. She might

652
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: have been trying to explain to you, like, yo, if

653
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: you feel in some level of distance, it's because of

654
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: life and what I'm working on. As time as times

655
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 2: has as time has done this thing, I realized our

656
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: party makes sense for the second half of our friendship.

657
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: Though we still spoke on the phone, our dynamic had changed,

658
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: and so had we. Once upon a time we lived

659
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: in Santa Fe. We were young and unattached and free.

660
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: We somenbabed naked in her backyard and eight lavish dinners

661
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: that she always generously paid for with her family's money.

662
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: It was a different time. U, Yeah, it's definitely. I

663
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: mean you mad. She was like, you need to pay

664
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: for this coffee this time? All right.

665
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: It's been six months since our weird conversation on the

666
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: floor in her office. I think of her sometimes. She

667
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 2: has made cameos in my dreams. If it were up

668
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: to me, we'd still be in touch. But I respect

669
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: the decision. I've come to understand that the person I

670
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: want to be in touch with no longer exist. Some

671
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 2: friends can grow side by side and love each other's changes.

672
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: I have many old friends with whom this is the

673
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: mutual case, but not with Maryland.

674
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: I can't change that, all right, Perhaps some day we

675
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: will reconnect.

676
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: The romantic in me likes that idea, but also I

677
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: have considered the possibility I may represent something that Maryland

678
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 2: is unwilling or unable to have in her life. Reminded

679
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: that she was once young and untained. I love that

680
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: part of myself. And though I don't pull the car

681
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: over on the side of the desert at two in

682
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: the morning to have an impromptu photo shoot by the

683
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: light of the full moon anymore. She doesn't wear many

684
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: dresses to dance on speakers anymore. We don't hook up

685
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: with each other and our friends anymore. I don't deny

686
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: reject that part of me.

687
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: I like the reminder you were once wild.

688
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: The fuck is that wildness? Karen to stand wildness? She

689
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: was wors wild and she didn't do that anymore.

690
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: Yep, because oh old.

691
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: I wonder.

692
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: I wonder if hookup means like sexually hook up, because

693
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: you know, white people say hook up different than we do.

694
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: We be like let's look up, like let's go hang out.

695
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: The hook up for white people means let's like make

696
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: out two fuck somewhere in between that. So I wonder

697
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: what she if she means that with the whole Like

698
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: I wonder this is a sexual thing the way she

699
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: keeps describing how she looks.

700
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: We were naked in the backyard.

701
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 5: Period of time, they may have had something up with

702
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 5: sexual relationship and she, you know, she'd like, hey, I've

703
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 5: got a boyfriend, you know, a husband, you know, and

704
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 5: stuff like that. Like so the relationship between us has

705
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: got to change now because my priorities have changed.

706
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the whole like young and wild and unchanged.

707
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if that is more than just a friendship

708
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: type of thing. Friendship's in for different reasons, and they

709
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: don't always end so much with so much love. Jessica

710
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: thirty five or Die best Friend told tells Bustle that

711
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: she felt beyond relief when she ended a friendship several

712
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: years ago that was no longer serving her. After years

713
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: of deliberation, I don't know which venue to take. I

714
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: was like, how do I break up with her? What

715
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: are the words?

716
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: Jessica says.

717
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: In the end, she wrote her email and kept it short.

718
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: If you really need to cut someone loose, you might

719
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: have to say something that doesn't address them directly.

720
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: She says.

721
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: Man, maybe I'm weird, but an email to break up

722
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: with a friend?

723
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: Am I doing friendships?

724
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 4: From?

725
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: Are people out there? Waiting on like closing interviews, like

726
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: what's my exit interview on this friendship? Apparently?

727
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 5: So, I don't know we in age now I can

728
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: see people doing some bullshit like that.

729
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: Have I not been sending the memos to the right people?

730
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 5: I ain't been seeing and blind copying the right people

731
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 5: on it. I don't know how to be a friend apparently.

732
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: Oh I would like. I noticed that I did not

733
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: receive a note to ride formal friendship ending agreement in

734
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: the mail, And I'm really upset right now.

735
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: Jessica wasn't even sure she was truly breaking up with

736
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: her friends. She just knew she needed to pump the breaks.

737
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: The release she.

738
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: Felt told her otherwise, though, they experience taught her that

739
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: it's fine, nay wise to let go of friendships that

740
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: aren't working, regardless of circumstance. That has led me to

741
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: be very purposeful with who I keep in my life,

742
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: Jessica says, Once you get over the hump of being

743
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: able to do that, it seems to open up the

744
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: road to more meaningful friendships.

745
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: Is your internet working?

746
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: It was, you know, yes, working for me. I see

747
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 2: people in the chat room. Yeah, you guys can hear

748
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: me right, Okay, yeah, I think it's working on my side.

749
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah they see me so ok.

750
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: Just wanting to be sure, no problem now, this is

751
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: no problem.

752
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: I just can't see you right now. Just a lot

753
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: back in and we'll see if it can get it

754
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: to work.

755
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

756
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: So now keep in mind she linked Jessica, so she

757
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: links to Jessica's piece, who wrote an article in Bustle

758
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen called how to break up with a

759
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: friend like a mature adult.

760
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: This is.

761
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: This is a lot that's the whitest thing ever.

762
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: Doesn't make sense.

763
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: This is a lot. I don't know about all this, guys.

764
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: It seems like a hell of a place to go.

765
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: But what no sense? Is this? Right?

766
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: How to break I mean, do y'all need how to guys?

767
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 2: To break up with a friend like an adult?

768
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: This is a thing. She just knew she needed to

769
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: pump the breaks to release.

770
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: She felt, uh no, d that has led me to

771
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: a very purposeful who I keeping live? Da da da

772
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: Tessa twenty eight tails Bustle that she encountered something similar

773
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: to my experience with Maryland a love friendship like a sister,

774
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: she says, but her friend made some lifestyle choices that

775
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: didn't resonate, and they grew apart. There was no fight.

776
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: She and her friend just couldn't be friends anymore because

777
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: the foundation their friendship had changed. At first, it was

778
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: hard for Tessa to let go of her friend. Eventually,

779
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: they had a conversation agreed to end their friendship. It

780
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 2: may have been right, but it wasn't easy. Social media

781
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: was cruel. Seeing her friend on Instagram didn't help to

782
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: ease the sting.

783
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: What what mean? Like, oh, you research your futity? Yo?

784
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: What the fuck?

785
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening right now?

786
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: Then uther follow me on Instagram?

787
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: If you really are that hurt, hey, I think we

788
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 2: should end our friendship.

789
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: Wow?

790
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: Really, since I went on Instagram, you still out here

791
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: eating cakes on Fridays.

792
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: That's about me.

793
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: That's some bullshit. Just because I wanted to end the friendship,

794
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: didn't you know? I want to see you be happy.

795
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: After five years of morning, after five years of more

796
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: than the loss of that friendship, they reconnected. Tessa says,

797
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: as soon as I really let go and really surrendered,

798
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: like okay, I'll just trust the universe is gonna take

799
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: care of her, not trying to control it. She says,

800
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: she and her friend were slowly able to restart their friendship.

801
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: Today they are still friends, and Tessa, like Jessica and me,

802
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: has gotten choosier with her friendships. I don't want to expand,

803
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: expand any extra energy to someone who's not a friend,

804
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: someone who I don't want in my life, someone I

805
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: don't want to build something with the people who really

806
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: love me. The ones I love are the ones that matter. Oh,

807
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: you know what, I figured it out.

808
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: I know what this is. It's not necessarily just some

809
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: white people shit.

810
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: The amount of effort they're putting into the correspondence is

811
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: the white people shit and feeling the need to like

812
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: write out and describe their friendships is.

813
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: Definitely five hundred words.

814
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: Ye, but you know what this is just growing older?

815
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: Agreed, that's all this is because I because people change

816
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 5: as they get older.

817
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 2: Dog, And also you just have less time and energy

818
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: for just bullshit. These are people that had a lot

819
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: of extraining is called quote friends. It sounds like just

820
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: a lot of everybody's my bff, we're all friends. We're

821
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: taking pictures of doing things. And then your friends start

822
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: getting older and they do shit like get married, move,

823
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: have children, and you go, oh, is our friendship gonna

824
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: fiele out? Do we need to have a conversation? I

825
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: think most people, at least from our generation, who because

826
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: we don't really necessarily document our friendships this way at

827
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: least we have in our whole lives, right, I think

828
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: we just kind of go, oh, we just don't.

829
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: Hang out anymore.

830
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: Right, that's kind of the end.

831
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: And for them it's like I have to I've been

832
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: giving the world so much of my life and my experience.

833
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: I have to explain to them why sharing is no

834
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: longer in my pictures on Saturdays at brunch.

835
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 4: Honey, ain't about thought twice about sharing?

836
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: Right, That's how I look at it, Like we're not

837
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: friends no more? All right?

838
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: And the thing is, as you get older, your priority

839
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 4: is changing. You know what. You got a whole less

840
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: lot less of motherfucking energy. You don't have energy.

841
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Your ask you get.

842
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: Jobs, you work, you come home.

843
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: And that's another thing.

844
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: You got friends that y'allly friends with because y'all work together, right,

845
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: You got friends only friends with because y'all go to

846
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: the club together. You got friends only friendsly because y'all

847
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: go to church together. Whatever, Right, one thing changes. You're

848
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: not actually that tight.

849
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 5: I had to learn that, and that's that's I think

850
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 5: that's something that's shocking to people.

851
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: Some friendships are there because you have something in common.

852
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 5: You take away that common factor, their relationships changes, and

853
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: that's okay.

854
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: I just think that's a very hard thing for people

855
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 4: to understand until you get older.

856
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: You get older, you but like, yeah we're cool because

857
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 5: we work together.

858
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: If you leave it, I'll leave I will be okay.

859
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 5: But a lot of that actually comes from you just

860
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 5: getting older and you're just maturing and you just understanding

861
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: that that's how life goes.

862
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: Also, like are you not too busy to do it? Like?

863
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: Am I? Like?

864
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: Am I not living a life that is treet enough

865
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: that I've gotten down to the hierarchy to like the

866
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: lowest wrong of like problems where I'm like, I didn't

867
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: end that friendship in a loving way.

868
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: Like I don't think I've ever had that thought.

869
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: Like literally, as I'm reading this, I'm like, oh, yeah,

870
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: I guess there are people I used to be friends

871
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: with and I moved on. Never occurred to me that

872
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: I needed to, like, you know, send them a telegram

873
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: or anything.

874
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: It just felt like, yeah, the friendship is over.

875
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: And school right, and sometimes truth be told there. Sometimes

876
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 5: relationships mean more to you than they do the other person.

877
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 5: And that's okay too. That's just a part of like

878
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: I said, that's part of getting older and growing and

879
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 5: developing and learning who you are and learning what you

880
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 5: will and won't put up with. You know, it's it's

881
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: just a process. And also, like I say, it's really

882
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 5: some white people shit, because if you out here grinding

883
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: and working and taking care of your family and shit like.

884
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 4: That, that that's the furthest thing.

885
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: You know.

886
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 5: You might you might think about somebody you'd be like, oh, yeah,

887
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 5: I's also.

888
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 4: Doing it, reach out to them and things like that.

889
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm not gonna be there pressed for

890
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: five years.

891
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: As marriage license and family therapists, Esther Boykin tells Bustle,

892
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: letting go of a friendship in a loving way can

893
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: be so challenging. We really are conditioned to think of

894
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: friendship is a lifelong thing unless someone does something egregious.

895
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 3: But friendship, like any relationship, can grow apart, and it's true.

896
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Part of letting go of my friendship with Maryland has

897
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: been realizing that old that the old make new friends,

898
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: but keep the old adage does not always apply. Life

899
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: is long, but not every and not every BFF actually

900
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: turns out to need that last f affix to their name.

901
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: And also what I realized too, a lot of people

902
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 5: when they're young, and some older people, but a lot

903
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 5: of people when they're young, they throw around the word

904
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 5: friend a.

905
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: Lot, like like like they just people in general, right,

906
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 2: not even young people. We've had people in the last

907
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: couple of years that you know, I like because of

908
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: the way they use friend. I started using friend that way,

909
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: and I thought about it, was like, no, that's not

910
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: my friend, right, like like I'm.

911
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: Like, no, no, no, no, no, I get it.

912
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: You mean a quaintance, really, And I like, to me,

913
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: when I say friend, I mean something stronger than that.

914
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: And not everybody's gonna make it to that level.

915
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: It's hard to be a friend for me anyway, because

916
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: it's just like I don't count everybody amongst that.

917
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: Ain't that the truth?

918
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 5: And the thing about me, like you said, you get old,

919
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 5: You go through things, people disappoint you, people use you

920
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 5: don't speaking of my own own personal experience, and you

921
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: get to the point where you go, oh, when it

922
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 5: comes to like this, I require a certain level of

923
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: I don't want to say personality, but I require things

924
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 5: of my friends. And I've realized that, I'm gonna tell

925
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 5: you right now, I am special and everybody can't handle me.

926
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: And I understand that.

927
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 5: And everybody cannot require my requirements for being a friend.

928
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 5: You know, it's a lot of people they're very they're

929
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: very flaky that you can't trust them. Like it's a

930
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 5: lot of things like like if I call you a friend,

931
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: like like like we roll dogs. It's certain things that

932
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: I require of you. And that's fine because it's my friendship.

933
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 5: So I can require whatever the fuck I want to

934
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 5: require of the friendship.

935
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: You either meet the standards or you don't.

936
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 5: And I think for some people, some people actually need

937
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 5: to raise their standards of friendships.

938
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: Then they wouldn't go through some of the shit they

939
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: go through with people. But you learn that as you

940
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: get older.

941
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, So.

942
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 2: We often connect with friends, especially in our youth, based

943
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: on context. Boykin says, where we live, where we go

944
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: to school or work, or mutual friend groups can be

945
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: the initial foundation of our adult friendships.

946
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 3: Some of these friendships.

947
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: Will grow into a deeper, more intimate, emotional bond, and

948
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: someone naturally fade away over time, but it's not all

949
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: tears and tiny violins. We grow in our lives change,

950
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: and often that means friendships change and occasionally end. Boy

951
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: And says that's ending those sad and painful can also

952
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: be a gift. I've started to slowly reframe the end

953
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: of my friendship with Maryland that way. It was a

954
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: great friendship, but then it changed. That doesn't make it

955
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: a bad friendship. Though Maryland will.

956
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: Always be one of my great loves. I really wonder

957
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: if she hm.

958
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: I think it really does more small down to change, or,

959
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: as Boykint puts it, when friends are able to clearly

960
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: and kindly tell you that their life or priorities have changed,

961
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: it frees you from the emotional energy of trying to

962
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 2: maintain a one side of connection. The last few years

963
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: of my friendship with Maryland, that's exactly.

964
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: What was going on. And it was rare that Maryland

965
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: called me.

966
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: I usually called her I could, since she was reticent

967
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: of our friendship for a long time. I chalked it

968
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: up to other things, her relationship, distance life. I tried

969
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: not to take it to heart, but it was difficult.

970
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't understand that, and maybe that's just because of

971
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: the way I'm built up. I do think I'm built

972
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: more of a I'm trying not to be a bother

973
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: to everyone type of person and to myself. So if

974
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: I get like any level of a hint that is

975
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: like this is a taxing or just much yeah, I'm out.

976
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: And it's not even on some like fuck you. It's

977
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: just like yah, okay, cool, cool, your life is throwing great.

978
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: You don't need me to check on you.

979
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: Have a good one. You know.

980
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: I'll let me when you need me, you know. And

981
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: maybe that's a little too much of that in me,

982
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: but I definitely do that. I don't do anyone sided

983
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: like hey man, hey, we need to get up, we

984
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: need to do this.

985
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: Nah, I'm cool.

986
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

987
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 5: And also for me, as I've gotten as I've become older,

988
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 5: I'm only gonna work so hard for friendship and I

989
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 5: don't press or force friendships.

990
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: A lot of.

991
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: People do, like, but that's not part of my personality.

992
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: We either click or we don't, and that's fine because

993
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: everybody you meet, y'all not gonna be best friends. And

994
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 5: I think that's a very hard concept for people to understand.

995
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: And the end, I believe what happens is always what's

996
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: supposed to happen, and rather than pining over friendships, lost

997
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: the whole thing as an opportunity for growth. Many times

998
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: it's simply a matter of reprioritizing or as you learn

999
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: what you need more of in your friendships. Boy And says,

1000
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: learning to take these changes as a natural part of

1001
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 2: your life's evolution rather than a failing in some way,

1002
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: will give you the inter bit give you the ability

1003
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: to access what you need in a friendship as well.

1004
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: This has been true for me since things with Mayland ended.

1005
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: It's been slowly. It's been slow to advanced friendships. Oh,

1006
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: I've been slow to advanced friendships that I'm not sure about.

1007
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: I've gone closer to my nearest and DearS and further

1008
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: from my sort of friends. I haven't been so gung

1009
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: ho to hang out for the sake of hanging out.

1010
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: You're just getting old, boy.

1011
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: Come on out. What's all When you get old and you.

1012
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 5: Realize your time is valuable, right, you'd be like like this.

1013
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 5: When I go to work, I hang around people, and

1014
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 5: I deal with people because I'm paid to be here.

1015
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: If I'm not paid to be there, motherfucker, I better

1016
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 5: enjoy your goddamn company.

1017
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: When your friendship is sliding on down and your bed

1018
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: and your bedtime is sliding on down, come on, and

1019
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: time is a little more precious.

1020
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: Because you're not gonna be out till foe. You're gonna

1021
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: be out till ten.

1022
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: Come on.

1023
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: You might have to cut out some superfluous influences, man

1024
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: I you know. And also just some things have a season.

1025
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: I think of all things that way, right, they do.

1026
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: That's not to the mean people. Literally things have a season.

1027
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: It's okay. When it's over. Things have an ending. That's

1028
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: why I love fall. It's an ending that's so beautiful.

1029
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: And spring is a time of renewal. But that's why

1030
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: I love that season because it's just like yo, it's

1031
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: things can be beautifully ended. You know, things come to

1032
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: an end naturally. It's part of the cycle. For you

1033
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: to have room for new growth, you have to get

1034
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: rid of the old. Great and that's okay, you know.

1035
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of interesting because like I had

1036
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: a friend in high school, Rashida.

1037
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: She was my best friend at the time.

1038
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: I miss her, yeah, But at the same time, like

1039
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: she got a boyfriend, you know, I think they even

1040
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: got engaged or whatever at one point. And you know,

1041
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: also when you get a man, like a lot of

1042
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: times they have weird hang ups about men being friends

1043
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: with women.

1044
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: Totally understand. Men are trash. I do get it.

1045
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm not calling him trash. I'm saying men in general trash.

1046
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: I get why you might feel like, what's this nigga

1047
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: up to whatever?

1048
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: Cool?

1049
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm not resentful about it.

1050
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm not sitting around like this motherfucker. I often dream

1051
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: of her.

1052
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: Where is she? Like? Cool? You know, like it's no

1053
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: hard feelings. If it was meant to be as a

1054
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: lifelong journey.

1055
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: We would come back together if I that's fine as well,

1056
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: like these people that get upset about that. You know,

1057
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: I had one of my uh I had one of

1058
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: my friends was a white dude. He got married, he

1059
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: had a kid, he got a house, he moved out

1060
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: of the city like cool, not like who was sitting

1061
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: around checking.

1062
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: That to be like, but what about me? Where is

1063
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 3: the room for my life? Like cool? Fam Like we

1064
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: don't have certain things in common anymore. You moved on.

1065
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: I ain't moved on. Absolutely fine. I don't know who

1066
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: these people are that harbor grudges.

1067
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: If I saw that motherfucker in the street tomorrow, be like, hey, yo,

1068
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: long time, don't see everything good with you? Right and

1069
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: move on After that, I wouldn't be like, now let's

1070
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: go hang out tomorrow.

1071
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: I'll be like, all right, cool. You know.

1072
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: Anyway, thank the friend who had the courage to be

1073
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: honest about their current capacity to be close to you

1074
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: and take it as an invitation to see more of

1075
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: the things you needed other relationships boy can, says licensed

1076
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: marriage and family therapist Michelle Ferris, author of Eliminating Codependent Behaviors,

1077
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: points out something I was already acutely aware of my exit.

1078
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: Interview with Maryland was a gift.

1079
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: Being able to ask questions as a way to try

1080
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: to understand why the friend chose out is important for

1081
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: healing interesting, Ferris tells Bustle.

1082
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: Why they chose out?

1083
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like why they decided to not be your friend anymore.

1084
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: You get an exit interview. Not knowing the reason why

1085
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: creates a lasting hurt that's hard to hear. I'ma be real,

1086
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand the other side of this, and maybe

1087
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 2: that's something.

1088
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: Maybe that's my fault.

1089
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm lacking some empathy there, But I my mind

1090
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: just does not work this way where I'm like, but

1091
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 2: you owe me closure to a friendship where clearly where

1092
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 2: it was a year's long fade away, like it wasn't

1093
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: an abrupt we were kicking it Saturday, and then fuck

1094
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: you out of not talking to you right like for

1095
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 2: years you felt like you were the only one pushing

1096
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: the friendship.

1097
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: And you still need her to say something. That's a lot.

1098
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: That year, Maryland and I didn't talk between the second

1099
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: and last time I saw her.

1100
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: The last was so painful.

1101
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know exactly why we weren't in touch, so

1102
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: I felled in the blanks of stories I made up.

1103
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: Being willing to say a goodbye conversation, to have a

1104
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: goodbye conversation can help.

1105
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: You complete whatever needs to be said in order to

1106
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 3: move on.

1107
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: Faris says, this also gives you the opportunity to get

1108
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: some constructive feedback for your own growth.

1109
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: Now, now, this motherfuck gotta give me all right, So

1110
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: give me three pointers on how I can improve in friendship. No,

1111
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: all in line my own experience out here.

1112
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: The other day, another night, I dripped that Maryland asked

1113
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: me to go on the trip to her trip with her,

1114
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: and I dropped everything to join her. When I woke up,

1115
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: I realized that if something along those lines happen in

1116
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: real life, I'll probably do just that much like a

1117
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: romantic breakup.

1118
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: I'm not completely over our friendship, and why would I be.

1119
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I sound like y'a had a very intimate relationship.

1120
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: Well on her side.

1121
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: I bet I feel like Maryland need to write a

1122
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: motherfucking short ass like listen, First of all, this bitch

1123
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: was crazy, and we'd be.

1124
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, that makes sense.

1125
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: Heartbreak often takes years to settle in fade, and friendship

1126
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: gets in the bones in all very just in a

1127
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: very distinct manner. I'm okay with being hopeless, hopeless friendship romantic,

1128
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: and I'm also okay with letting go with love. And

1129
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: of course, whoever put this out, Oh they changed so

1130
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: Maryland's not her real name. Okay, Well I guess that

1131
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: was cool. All right, Well, thank you bb beets and

1132
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: Bustle dot com. That was a great read. Do the

1133
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 2: rest of you guys get on your grind and get

1134
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: out here and start start emailing people for your friendships,

1135
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: making sure that they are broken up with correctly. Don't

1136
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: send drive fly into town.

1137
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: And go ahead and talk to people. So there you go.

1138
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 4: No feelings hurt?

1139
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: Wow? Okay, wow, I guess Karen is not I.

1140
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: Mean not by me. But you're gonna show up, but

1141
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 4: it might not be what you respect.

1142
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, let's do some fucking with black people. Guys.

1143
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: Get into that segment when we talk about things and

1144
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: the news that fuck with us. We're just fucking with

1145
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 2: those people, with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking

1146
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: with black people. That's right, guys, It's time to play

1147
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: the game. They won't call you back even though you're

1148
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: best friends. It's fucking with black people.

1149
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 3: The game that goes all around the globe makes you

1150
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: feel fuck with to the sad points courts with zil

1151
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: te one hundred till you give it a friendship. Exit interview.

1152
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: Today's attacted everybody. That's right. See who's fucking with us today?

1153
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 3: The FEDS approved.

1154
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: The renaming of Runaway Negro Creek to Freedom Creek.

1155
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 5: Run not Runningway Negro Creek was apparently there was some

1156
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 5: negroes running away on this creek.

1157
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: I mean one, how did you get his name?

1158
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm assuming negroes are running away from the south to

1159
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: the north.

1160
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 4: Come on.

1161
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: The other part of this. Y'all really want me to

1162
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: believe it was runaway Negro Creek Niga creek?

1163
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 5: Come on, we got to change the words just so

1164
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 5: you can put it in the newspaper.

1165
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: Who you think named this uh? Who you think name

1166
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 3: this creek? Crackers? That's who named it the name crackers.

1167
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: We know who named this creek.

1168
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 4: We did not name this creek.

1169
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, man, oh my god, this is so ridiculous.

1170
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: Runaway Nigga Creek. What y'all fishing there like?

1171
00:52:59,160 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 5: Do?

1172
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: Y'all just use it is a landmark. Now, if you're

1173
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: gon't go on to the left, go and make a

1174
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: left up there the light. Now, if you get away

1175
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: the runaway Nigger Creek, you done went too far. You

1176
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: gonna need to turn on around, buddy, Okay, go.

1177
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: Back to that third tree, you man, will make a

1178
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: make a left, hang a nigga lane. Okay, come on,

1179
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 3: well you get to if you get the Runaway Nigga Creek,

1180
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 3: trust me, you didn't waste a lot of gas.

1181
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 5: And when you get down there by beating nigga for us,

1182
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 5: you know, getting too far out?

1183
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you over there off darky drive Yeah, come on,

1184
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: come on, yeah, come on and turn around.

1185
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 3: Turn around, yep, Runaway Nigger Creek.

1186
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 4: Right y'all. Put that on a map, nap headed Lake.

1187
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to live out here, and map quest supposed

1188
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 3: to drive me past. U Are you saying the way?

1189
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 4: The ways?

1190
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: It is gonna be?

1191
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 4: Like you just passed.

1192
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 3: The white peek?

1193
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: Do white people take their friends they black friends to fish.

1194
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: At one away Nigga Creek?

1195
00:53:59,120 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 4: Like?

1196
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: Is that a thing? Yeah?

1197
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm thinking of do some fishing this weekend. Man,

1198
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: go down there and catch some bags. Oh for real, man,

1199
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: where you fishing at?

1200
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 3: Well, Jamal, that is an interesting question.

1201
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 4: I'd love to go fishing with you.

1202
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean you can definitely go you so you h?

1203
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 3: I mean we can go we can go together, all right? Cool?

1204
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: I can meet you out there.

1205
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 5: Man.

1206
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: What's the name of it? Yeah?

1207
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: See that's the thing. Let me drive and you could

1208
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: just ride with me and we could just go together

1209
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: that way. Oh man, stop bullshit. Man just named the

1210
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: plant the pond or the creek or whatever. We'll just

1211
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: go out there with do some fly fishing.

1212
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. See that's the thing. Dog, I don't know how

1213
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: to tell you to get there. You don't know the way.

1214
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 3: Oh I know the way.

1215
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: I I just don't know how to tell you directions.

1216
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 5: Okay, because I don't want no smoke, right, Okay, I'm

1217
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 5: gonna listen.

1218
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: The best brom and crappy in the game, it' said

1219
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: Runaway Negro Creek.

1220
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 4: Well you're looking like, why I never heard of this folk?

1221
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I don't know how it got the name.

1222
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 3: Oh you know how I got the name. We all

1223
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: know how I got the name.

1224
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 4: I didn't write the history book on it.

1225
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 3: Come on, now, we all know who got the name.

1226
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: A lot of brown people.

1227
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

1228
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 2: The decision is a two year effort to rename the

1229
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: creek at the residents said it should more accurately to

1230
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: affect the history of the area.

1231
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: The Savannah Morning News reported the name change Sunday.

1232
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: I love it.

1233
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: I love that. Y'all think it was only two years though? Oh?

1234
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 4: People being mad about that.

1235
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: It's only been two years since they petition to get

1236
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: the name change. Oh, people been mad.

1237
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 4: Since the right people petition. Yeah, because it's been petitioned before.

1238
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: Believe you me.

1239
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: The premium the previous name had no place in our society,

1240
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: said US Representative Buddy Carter, a Republican from Pooler, said

1241
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: in a statement, Buddy Buddy Carter definitely a white man Republican.

1242
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: I am very glad I Communicy came together at his local,

1243
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: at the local, state, and federal level to make this happen.

1244
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: Shout out to the fact that he is a Republican

1245
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: and he admitted anything was racist. Republicans don't never admit

1246
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: nothing racist. Yeah, they always be like, well, I mean,

1247
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 2: how do you know that they didn't want to be

1248
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: called runaway niggas?

1249
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 3: Creek? I mean, maybe they were runaway niggers. I don't

1250
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 3: understand you trying to say it's racist to call them then?

1251
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: Right then why you got it?

1252
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: In rep music, the creek was given in the creek

1253
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 2: was given its previous name because slaves from the Modena

1254
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: plantation on Skidaway Island would escape and try to cross

1255
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: to Union occupy island.

1256
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: During the Civil War. Uh what was the name before that?

1257
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: Right, because that's during the Civil War. So it had

1258
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: a name, right, and then so many niggas ran away.

1259
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 3: They were like throwing up that to the to the creek.

1260
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 4: Uh, you know the niggas went away.

1261
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 3: You know you runaway Nigga Creek.

1262
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 4: You know what that cross?

1263
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: You know what you're talking about, the creek over about Dogwoods. No,

1264
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: the runaway Nigger Creek, you know the one they always

1265
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: ran away the previous the senator State Senator Lester Jackson.

1266
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: Lester Jackson, a Democrat from Savannah, worked to change the

1267
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: creek's name after you heard from residents during a public

1268
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: meeting in twenty seventeen. You know they've been going to

1269
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: that public meeting for fifty seven years, for hundreds of years.

1270
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 4: Come on protesting that ship.

1271
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: Since the Civil War, being like, I think we need

1272
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 3: to change the name, and the white people have been like,

1273
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean, is it really racist. I mean, it's really

1274
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: Southern pride. It's really about heritage, not hate. The Georgia

1275
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: General assembley passed the resolution seeking the name changed last year,

1276
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: and then the Georgia Archives petition the government in December.

1277
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: The process concluded with last week's.

1278
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: Approval from the US Border of Geographic Names, which is

1279
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: task to maintaining uniform usage geographic names across the country.

1280
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: Freedom Creek.

1281
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 5: I'm putting sure all this map and maps and shit

1282
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 5: like that, somebody can find the original name.

1283
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 3: I wonder how many other landmarks have fucked up racist names.

1284
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 3: We just don't know about a lot, you know, kill

1285
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: all the Indians Lane, what is this? We should probably

1286
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: change that. We should probably put a petition in in

1287
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: a couple of years get that change. We didn't really

1288
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: mean TP road right.

1289
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: We probably shouldn't have Oh god, we shouldn't have said that.

1290
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 3: Karen zero tie hundred, one hundred, one hundred.

1291
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a fifty because they are changing

1292
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: the name of Freedom Creek and uh and.

1293
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: They changed it. So there we go.

1294
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: Let's see what else happened. Wow, Wow, these are so bad.

1295
00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: Here's one.

1296
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: Two teachers in New York were fired after noose images

1297
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: displayed in the classroom. The news images are part of

1298
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: a larger collage that was in one of the classrooms

1299
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: in the middle school, which was which has a student

1300
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: body that is almost entirely black and Hispanic. Two teachers

1301
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: at a middle school in Long Island, New York, not

1302
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: New York City.

1303
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: They don't have racism up there, do.

1304
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 4: They, right?

1305
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 5: The same people that got a Chinatown right, Yeah, Jewish town,

1306
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 5: we're they don't have a Jewish town.

1307
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: We're an image of a pair of nuses labeled back

1308
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: to school necklaces were displayed in a classroom. Those teachers

1309
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: have been fired. You had nuses on the college labeled

1310
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: back to school necklaces and no one.

1311
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: Saw this until the students did.

1312
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 5: How not a principal, not in, not an advisa, nobody.

1313
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: Who made the college. I'm trying to understand. The Roosevelt

1314
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: Union Free School District school board voted four to oh

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Speaker 3: to fire the two certified staff. The staff members were

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01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: not named at the meeting, but.

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01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: School district officials told NBC News previously that the question

1318
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: of terminating the two non tenured teachers at Roosevelt Middle

1319
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: School who allegedly involved in the news incident will be

1320
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: considered at the March nineteenth, meaning the teachers have been

1321
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: employed for two to three years. A third teacher, who

1322
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: was tenured, was suspended with pay on Tuesday, pending a

1323
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: hearing for her alleged involving in the display.

1324
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 4: She was the Sprinkles Good own this.

1325
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: She was previously an administrative lead.

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01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: The news images were part of a larger collage that

1327
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: was in one of the classrooms at the middle school,

1328
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: which has a student body that is almost entirely black Hispanic.

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01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: The college showed two neises and also featuring the words.

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01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: Hot and hashtag yes.

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01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: The school district in the town of Roosevelt said in

1332
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: February that it took the appropriate action against the teachers

1333
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: for the display other racially offensive images when it was

1334
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: made aware of the incident. It's unclear who made the

1335
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: collage or how long it was displayed in the classroom.

1336
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 3: What is up with these mysteries at these schools? What

1337
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: just happened?

1338
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: We don't know who made nothing? Wow, it got on

1339
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: the wall anything?

1340
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: Damn never but you know, you know what, you know

1341
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 4: what don't never happen? I don't never see this ship

1342
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 4: when it comes to the Holocaust. Maybe that's just me.

1343
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: Maybe that's just me.

1344
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

1345
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, but everybody else brown can get it though, But

1346
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 5: when it comes to that here in our country, well, I.

1347
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 3: Don't know, there's a lot of anti Semitism. I don't

1348
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: want to go that far.

1349
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, yes it is.

1350
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: This is fucking with black people. We come fucking with

1351
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: black people.

1352
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: But I'm sure that there's there's stories of Jewish people

1353
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: being discriminated, synagogue being things, maybe even things happening in

1354
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: schools that we are just not aware of. And I

1355
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: would even venture so far as to say that it

1356
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: probably is happening because the alt right and white nationalists

1357
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: actually hate Jewish people, so a lot of the imagery

1358
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: they have online and a lot of these young white

1359
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: boys are being radicalized to hate Jews as well and

1360
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: to use anti Jewish propaganda in the in the same

1361
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: way they use a noose, they would use like like

1362
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: pepe to frag is one of those anti symbols they've

1363
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: they've they've adopted into anti Semitism.

1364
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 5: I agree, okay, And like I said, maybe my lack

1365
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 5: of a lot of knowledge and me not knowing, but

1366
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 5: would you go in there and see a display of

1367
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 5: a swastika and possibly like woo on the display?

1368
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: Possibly?

1369
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 5: And I want that, I want that. We don't cover that.

1370
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 5: Oh really here right?

1371
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: So it's so we always are inundated with this kind

1372
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: of ship and we're always like, what the fuck is

1373
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: going on?

1374
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: There may be another.

1375
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: Podcast where they do fucking with Jewish people and they

1376
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: could probably find just as much. Not it might not

1377
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: be the same proportion, but they probably have ship like

1378
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: this for their kids.

1379
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying it doesn't happen at all.

1380
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 5: But it's something that's not not in the not that

1381
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 5: it's not in the news at all, but it's one

1382
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 5: of those things where I don't hear about it.

1383
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't really look for it, agree. I mean,

1384
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: there's people that don't hear about this. There's some people

1385
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: right now listen to this, have never heard the story before.

1386
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: You didn't hear the story until I told you. So,

1387
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: you don't really hear about this unless I bring it up.

1388
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: So there's plenty of people in America right now living

1389
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: their lives that don't know about the story. They might

1390
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: know some of the more solationious like so and so

1391
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: was violently beating on video a cop shot somebody, type

1392
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: of stories.

1393
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 3: They don't know about this shit we do.

1394
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 5: Right, And to me, it's just fucked up all the

1395
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 5: way around, And it's just white.

1396
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: People just doing fucked up shit.

1397
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I'm not trying to get nobody right up

1398
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: to the show about all the fucking anti Semitic shit

1399
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: that happened.

1400
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I'm not saying it don't happen at all.

1401
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 5: No, that's not what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm just good

1402
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 5: it sucked up what they do to them too.

1403
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just being clear for the audience so we

1404
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: don't end up getting a bunch of that kind of

1405
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: like it does happen.

1406
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 3: Let me tell you twelve stories. We get it, it

1407
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: does happen with this. That doesn't make fucking with black people.

1408
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: But I absolutely think with the rise of alright, it's

1409
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: gotta be happening more now than it.

1410
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 3: Was in the last few years before this.

1411
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 4: Agreed, agreed, just hateful shit.

1412
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: Yes, uh so, I just don't understand the mystery.

1413
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: That's the part that bothers me is the no one

1414
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: ever knows who did this and how it got to

1415
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: where it got No, how is that possible? You're in

1416
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: a fucking school, You're not like there has to be

1417
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: some level of being able to track this. Was it

1418
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: a school project? Did you buy it from someone? Was

1419
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: it an art project in.

1420
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 3: The student making? Who are the artists?

1421
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: Was it a collage that asked people to contribute slips

1422
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: of paper?

1423
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: Whatever? The fuck didn't.

1424
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 4: Look at it had been like opening shit case.

1425
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: Right, Who was the teacher that coordinated the collage coming together?

1426
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 2: There's there's gotta be a ton of stuff that can

1427
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 2: trace it back reasonably to how it got there, and

1428
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: they just like punished the teachers and then go, we

1429
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck happened.

1430
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 3: Work anyway cares you? It's a hundred A hundred, yeah,

1431
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: I would say one hundred as well. That was fucked up.

1432
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Let's see, we'll do one more.

1433
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 2: Black manager at the Vietnamese restaurant subject to vicious att

1434
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: by owner after she quits.

1435
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 3: That's right. Well, it's not only white people that do

1436
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: fucked up shit to black people. So she was the

1437
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 3: manager at this restaurant.

1438
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: She quit, and then of course that's when the fuckery starts.

1439
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: An ex manager at a pair of Vietnamese restaurants in

1440
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: Texas says she was the target of racial and gender

1441
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: based verbal attacks and of text message sent by one

1442
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: of the owners after she quit the job.

1443
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 4: You know, people quit jobs every day. B.

1444
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: This is also not gonna get me to come back.

1445
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: Uh Domo Schneckenberg, that is an interesting name. Domos Neckenberg

1446
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: twenty six. It's not like a made up name anyway.

1447
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: Who managed two Texas uh fuss shack houses uh shack locations,

1448
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 2: owned one in sugar Land, the other than Caddy Okadie.

1449
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: But she decided to move on and notifier employers that

1450
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: she would be resigning. Okay, that had no problem finishing

1451
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: out the week. When Schneckenberg spoke to the owner Don

1452
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: Lee on the phone, it was cordial bafterwards in a

1453
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: group text that also include the restaurants.

1454
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 3: Oh, the owner Lee was angry.

1455
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 2: She took to the Facebook the post screen shots from

1456
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: a text message thread with Lee and uh and the

1457
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: other owner.

1458
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: In it, she.

1459
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: Displays uh where she was called her a what she

1460
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: was called a nigger and a bit? Whoever wrote this

1461
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: article is horrible at editing? Who did no one else

1462
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: look at this?

1463
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: This is terrible? Well who wrote this? Don only? This

1464
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: is horrisk horrific godee.

1465
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: What happened when people got their own direct logins? And

1466
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 5: you ain't got no editor editors?

1467
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: If I had to read this the way that you

1468
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: wrote it, it's what is this? Yes, she took to

1469
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: took to Facebook to post screen shots from a text

1470
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: message thread with Lee and in it they didn't.

1471
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 3: Say the other person name. She displays where he called.

1472
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: Her a nigger and a bitch. So looking at this,

1473
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: Dumbo just called and say she quit. I said, okay,

1474
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: thank you. Her last day will be Thursday. I'm gonna

1475
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: call her later and tell her her last day would

1476
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: be today. And then the other person responded, fuck the nigger.

1477
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: Don't like that bitch attitude anyways, save more money now

1478
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday?

1479
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: Is I cover question? Uh?

1480
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: And then boss man put the question mark fucked the nigger,

1481
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: like the question mark on how you can question somebody

1482
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: on text message with iPhone?

1483
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: Laugh my ass off, Thank you, boss Man. Leave the

1484
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: key with the will with Wilber for me.

1485
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: If you want your last check close tonight out correctly

1486
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: and professionally. The nigger says, fuck you, she replied. So

1487
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if they didn't realize they had her

1488
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: own this group text or not.

1489
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 4: I guarantee you they didn't realize that she was.

1490
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 5: They probably thought they was going back and forth with

1491
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 5: each other and like you know, how you know, and

1492
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 5: didn't realize it was three little bubbles up at the

1493
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 5: top versus two, because you know, you can normally see

1494
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 5: how many people in there.

1495
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't line say I wasn't surprised by Lee's reaction,

1496
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: because I was. It was a rude awakening that the

1497
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: stereotypes beween black and agents are still true new generation

1498
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 2: or not. Regardless of how long you've known them, how

1499
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: hard you work, how trustworeth you've been, whether or not

1500
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: the family knows you, you are still a nigger in

1501
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: their eyes. Social media posts created a stir, with many

1502
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 2: people calling the restaurant to complain and write negative reviews

1503
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: on the restaurants Yelp page. Further, Daddy Duncan's Barbecue, or

1504
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: Texas catering company that had done business with the fuss Shack,

1505
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: decided to end this partship righting on Facebook. We do

1506
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: not condone discrimination in any shape or form, so we

1507
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: all stopped all business with the restaurant. In fact, Schneckenberg

1508
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: said one of the reasons why she chose to resign

1509
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 2: is that her boss had become comfortable casually using racial

1510
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: slurs in her presence while she worked, despite her telling

1511
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: him she was uncomfortable with the language. See that's that

1512
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: shit man, most faces getting way too comfortable. And see

1513
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: they call that shit a friendship when they're paying you.

1514
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: I'm at work, I'm at work, I have to do shit.

1515
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 3: What can I say if you're my boss and you

1516
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 3: write me a check every two weeks? What the is

1517
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 3: it really a fair relationship. If you go I like

1518
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 3: to say the N word, and I have to be like, well,

1519
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm not really comfortable with it. We'll get used to

1520
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: a nigga hahaha. Oh. I have black friends. They love me,

1521
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 3: They love when I do this.

1522
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: When I got the tags, I was extremely hurt and anger,

1523
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 2: and I flipped the table over in the restaurant, Schnackenberg said,

1524
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: which prompt the leader call the police.

1525
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 3: Of course, I also call the staff meeting because I

1526
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 3: want everyone to know what the owner thinks of me. Lee,

1527
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 3: likely because of the negative.

1528
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: Reaction that his racist langage calls, finally apologize to the

1529
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: young woman at posted an apology on the Facebook pages.

1530
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: According to Daily Dot, the restaurant's Facebook pages have since

1531
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 2: been shut down. Lee himself has since resigned. I grew

1532
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: up in an environment that allowed ignorance to prosper, allowing

1533
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: the N word to be used casually amongst friends, and

1534
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: it remained a part of my vocabulary till now.

1535
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 3: But that stops here. Let me tell you something, and this.

1536
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: Is something I want people to be absolutely clear on.

1537
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons that i've I say nigga

1538
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: and I don't. I'm never gonna stop. It's because they

1539
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: always act like it's a confusing thing for non black

1540
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: people when it comes to the N word. I am

1541
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 2: looking at the text of this Asian man say fuck

1542
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: the nigger with a hard r. He didn't listen to

1543
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: a rap album and get confused. He used that shit

1544
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: to say, play that like white slave owners use it.

1545
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: So there's no confusion.

1546
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 3: You.

1547
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: If all the black people in the world stop saying

1548
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: nigga tomorrow, guess what's gonna continue to be said to

1549
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: demean us exactly anyway?

1550
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: Shiah I. You know, I just but that stops now, Guys,

1551
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,480
Speaker 3: I've learned my lesson.

1552
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: The conversation that took place to feel by rage and

1553
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: mixed emotions as a result, that word took a turn

1554
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: for the words my temporo has always been my downfall. Downfall.

1555
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: Lee has said he made the decision of resign. Yeah,

1556
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 2: I also find it interested at whoever boss man is

1557
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: questioned him saying nigger and then put a bunch of

1558
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: laughing after it. Why he ain't resigned to like you

1559
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: thought the shit was funny. You didn't check him, you

1560
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: didn't say nothing at all, so falls up concerned. You

1561
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: can plicit in this shit too, ain't no? I mean

1562
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: he's out shit zero tie hundred care oh, one hundred.

1563
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: I would also give this from the hundred. This is

1564
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: pretty ridiculous and not confusing at all. This person knew

1565
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: what they were doing, and y'all fall for that, okie

1566
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: duck if y'all won't, Man, you don't have to be

1567
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 2: white to be racist when.

1568
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 4: You're using the N word.

1569
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1570
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: I know New York they got different rules and shit

1571
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: up there, but don't bring that shit around me.

1572
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 3: Man, I am not cool with that.

1573
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 2: All right, you know, let's do something like we haven't

1574
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: done this in a long time. Let's do some white

1575
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: people news.

1576
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 3: Y'all. Everybody in for some white people news. It's a

1577
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: long time, yep.

1578
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: I think I'm about to get an AD before this,

1579
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: so I will try to mute this shit because I

1580
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: don't like listening to the ads. I'll tell you what ad.

1581
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,000
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1582
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Speaker 2: w T, get half off of one item and then ten.

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Speaker 3: Things okay, and you get free shipping included in that.

1584
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Speaker 2: So there's really no excuse for you not to go

1585
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Speaker 2: ahead and experience this because.

1586
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Speaker 3: You get six free movies.

1587
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Speaker 2: You get a toy for him or toy for her,

1588
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Speaker 2: or toy for both of y'all free shipping. I mean,

1589
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 2: it's so much free shit. I'm gonna use code tonight. Okay,

1590
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: I don't blame, and don't blame either. Now let's get

1591
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: to white people news. Got to start with a cover.

1592
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this right there.

1593
01:12:52,400 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: He goes out to all my ladies, Mama, mama, what

1594
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: is happen my lady's mama's mama?

1595
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: Why yeah, why does the mama in this video have

1596
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: the I definitely fucked black men's haircut. Though, she either

1597
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 2: needs to speak to a manager or log into black

1598
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: dot com because one of these is her jam if.

1599
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 4: Not both like this, I'm talking to miss Jackson.

1600
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: I can read your doctor cry all the jazi.

1601
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 4: My lady's from my mama. Don't lighten me. She's doing things.

1602
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: That's having a boy come to the studio trying to

1603
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: fight me. She needed to get a pie's in American

1604
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: pian to fight out.

1605
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 4: This is my house.

1606
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: I didn't even at the cable. It's in the lights

1607
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: out and let him know her go.

1608
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 3: It's a lady and not a paycheck.

1609
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: Brace WITHS movies, how about you girl. I pay that

1610
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: I love your mama and if thanks, I know one

1611
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: to trick.

1612
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 4: Now do you want to bring me up?

1613
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: Start a board between you my bother to stay down.

1614
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: She never got a chance to be in outside of

1615
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: the store.

1616
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 4: We was to fight it.

1617
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: She had a fries and cookouts on you, but then

1618
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: invited to fight it. I show the most effect when

1619
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: I fall through, Paul, you defend.

1620
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 4: That lady when I called you, I'm talking miss Jackson.

1621
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 4: I caimbo real. Never make your doctor craft the jazz.

1622
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 4: I'm talking to Shasson. I caimbo real.

1623
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: Never make your doctor crack the jazz.

1624
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: Tri I'm talking with Jackson, Im real.

1625
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: Doctor cy jazz and no doubt les.

1626
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 4: Hello, you say this, herb.

1627
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 3: Say falling round.

1628
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 4: Hope that you feel this, feel this way. You can

1629
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 4: plain a pretty plain, but you can't the weather.

1630
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: Miss jo from Black Crown, the quickest muzzle brow it

1631
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: on my mouth and not the clown king between the puppy.

1632
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 4: With the good you swinging in the oak tree.

1633
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 5: I hope we feel like forever forever, forever, ever, forever

1634
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 5: ever forever number Okay.

1635
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: Now, I just want you to notice that one of

1636
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: the kids that beat him up that she had that

1637
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: the mom had in the back of the suv. It's

1638
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 2: a whole story going on here. One of them kids

1639
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: is black. I don't know, you know if she got

1640
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 2: two different baby dadd is.

1641
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: I don't know she had. I told her she had

1642
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 3: that look though, didn't. I cleans that.

1643
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 4: Long until you're own and noticed that. The day can't

1644
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 4: be too long.

1645
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, see that boy definitely by racial over there. Okay,

1646
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 3: you got that. I could tell.

1647
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 4: I could tell y'all know what's got in mind? Teaching

1648
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 4: were good. I never could be come on much.

1649
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 3: You see the African talk to me doctor?

1650
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: She ask him what happened that the feelings that were

1651
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: I put so much your body that it happened for

1652
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: a reason.

1653
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 4: One can't be sim snow.

1654
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: That everything is cool and yet so we'll be present

1655
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 1: on the first day of school and graduation to talk about.

1656
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 3: Oh, make your doctor cry.

1657
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 4: I'm talling to Jackson. Im for real, your doctor cry.

1658
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 4: I'm talking to Jackson.

1659
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 3: To make your doctor cry. Up Father jos Trillian's eyes,

1660
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 3: I mean.

1661
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 5: I feel like he that's the kids box version and

1662
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 5: it's hilarious watching him with that.

1663
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 4: Uh it is white boy swoop hell could he got

1664
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 4: going on?

1665
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 2: Now, I'm saying, man, I think me I might have

1666
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: found me a little a young, a young white man

1667
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 2: on the come up over here.

1668
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I mean, come out and send me

1669
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 4: another invite.

1670
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, I'm sure my man Chris lamberta con

1671
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 3: testified it was. This was a bit of a bop.

1672
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: If he's our if he hears this episode, I think

1673
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: we might think we might have discovered a new talent,

1674
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: young Mattic b over there.

1675
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 3: Okay, we got to talk about that, y'all.

1676
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 2: Man, And we got so much Trump news we have

1677
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: not talked about, but we will talk about it very fast, Okay,

1678
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 2: because that's what we do. White people gave us Trump,

1679
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: So before we get the white people news, we got

1680
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: to talk about what they did.

1681
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

1682
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: The Never Trump podcast implosed after a dust up over

1683
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 2: Howard Schultz and the aftermath of Howard Schultz.

1684
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 3: Howard Schultz is the Starbucks former CEO who's.

1685
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: Running for president, one of the twenty seven Democrats running

1686
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 2: for president this year.

1687
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1688
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: Uh So, in the aftermath of his announcement that he

1689
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: was considering running an independent presidential campaign, a few names

1690
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 2: we're listed at supporters and strategists.

1691
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 3: Steve Smit was one of them.

1692
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: Schmidt is a pundit formula of MSNBC who has worked

1693
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: on Republican political campaigns, including those President George W. Bush,

1694
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Senator John McCain. He

1695
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 2: was a guy who got McCain to choose Sarah Palin

1696
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: as a runner made in two thousand and eight, irrevocably

1697
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 2: pushing the Republican party to the right.

1698
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: Now, Schmidt has pivoted to a new.

1699
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,919
Speaker 2: Career as a never Trump former Republican and he's involved

1700
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: in Schultz's of sur campaign defeat of the president somehow.

1701
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means.

1702
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 2: That sentence is kind of weird at least placed He's

1703
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: involved in Schultz's of sur campaign defeat the president somehow. Okay,

1704
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 2: Schultz's potential campaign rollout has not gone well, uh, yeah,

1705
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 2: it was terrible.

1706
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to yeah, let's get to the meat

1707
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 3: of this.

1708
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: So Schmidt addressed Schultz's aspirations and in his own involvement

1709
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: on the podcast Words Matter last week.

1710
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: It was a total disaster. Going into the conversation, things

1711
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 3: were already touching.

1712
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: Schmidt's co hosts Elise Jordan and executive producer Adam Levine,

1713
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: both political operatives who have worked with Republicans and now

1714
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: oppose Trump. This was never gonna work, were apparently not

1715
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: informed prior to show's announcement that Schmidt was involved with

1716
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 2: the political campaign. Schmidt now says that he won't be

1717
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 2: involved in any presidential campaign, but will lead the five

1718
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: to one C four nonprofit to aid shocis third party movement.

1719
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: For their discussion with Schmidt, the Levin and Jordan agreed

1720
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,560
Speaker 2: they would treat their interview like any other, with no

1721
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 2: opportunity for Schmid to speak off the record. Things quickly

1722
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: got out of control. Schmidt railed at having to defend

1723
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: himself on his podcast with the stream of curses, A

1724
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 2: source president in the studio said, consumes six minutes.

1725
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: Can you imagine cursing anything minute?

1726
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 4: Your friend share out.

1727
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 3: Of nothing but curses for six minutes.

1728
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 4: I would have to really live.

1729
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 2: It told the listeners were told that listeners were castigating

1730
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: him for joining an effort that could help re elect

1731
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: President Trump, and that he owed them answer to Schmid.

1732
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 2: It finally settled down enough to talk about to take

1733
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 2: about thirty minutes to questions from Jordan normally his co

1734
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: host and Levin, the executive producer. When he wasn't kursing,

1735
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: Smith provided insights like this is not trumpets Stan while

1736
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: defending shows his right to run as a third party candidate.

1737
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 3: His co host and.

1738
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 2: Producer then began to nel Schmidt on whether it would

1739
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: even be possible for an independent to get two hundred

1740
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 2: and seventy electoral votes in order to win the presidency.

1741
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 3: He dodged.

1742
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: Then they touched on the seventy percent marginal tax proposed

1743
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: by Representative of Alexandria Cassio Quartet. Schmidt said he agreed

1744
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 2: with Shultz that the tax is ridiculous and will hurt growth. Levine,

1745
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 2: to his credit pull pushed back with Derek Jeter or

1746
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 2: another athlete not hit another home run because they're going

1747
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: to get taxes seventy percent. Oh well, so he's trying

1748
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: to say, like, are people gonna not try to be

1749
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: rich because they getting taxed at a high rate.

1750
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 3: They haven't getting sense, right, They still gonna aim to

1751
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 3: be rich.

1752
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: What's the economic behavior that he thinks is anti growth

1753
01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: other than his own pocket.

1754
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 3: This is when the shit real hit the fan. This

1755
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 3: is bullshit.

1756
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: Schmidt exclaims, I'm not doing this, Steve, you gotta answer

1757
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: the question.

1758
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,879
Speaker 3: Levin said, that's the producer.

1759
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm not and what that Schmidt slams down his head said,

1760
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 2: abruptly into an interview. He threatened legal actually gets to

1761
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 2: the studio of the interview airs, according to a source

1762
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: involved in discussion. When his legal threat failed, he offered

1763
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: to bother recording. According to the source, the studio refused.

1764
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:26,879
Speaker 2: Of course, Schmidt explained to The Daily Beast, My objection

1765
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: is not on a tough question. It is the surreality

1766
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 2: of having a podcast hijacked from me. Until this recording,

1767
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,480
Speaker 2: I had always thought this was a leasis in my podcast.

1768
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: Schmidt subsequently announced he's leaving the podcast. Co host Jordan

1769
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: also called it quiz after accusing her co host of

1770
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: cutting her out of the key decision. I think he

1771
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: thought it would be a softball interview, Levin told The

1772
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 2: Daily Beast.

1773
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,799
Speaker 3: When asked about the interview and fallout.

1774
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: I love him, I hope he's okay, but what he

1775
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: did is antithetical to the mission of words Matter. After

1776
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: everything he said about Donald Trump in the past two years,

1777
01:21:58,920 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: He's part of.

1778
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:00,879
Speaker 3: An effort that could lead the Trump's reelection.

1779
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: Trump got these these Republicans fighting, all right, see what

1780
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: else is happening? Trump blocking contractor back pay if in

1781
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: government funding?

1782
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 3: Yes care?

1783
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 4: They even podcasts like radio stations apparently over this bullshit.

1784
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 3: On like radio stations. What you mean?

1785
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 4: You know how people like I quick the radio station.

1786
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 4: She was like, I quick the podcast.

1787
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy because people quit podcasts all the time.

1788
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 4: Come on, you don't even know they're gone.

1789
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: Trump blocking contractor back pay in government funding deal? All

1790
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: maker says, no shit, and this is oh.

1791
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: Some Republicans points to President saying they've never given back

1792
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: pay the contractors at the previous shutdowns. Yeah, well, of

1793
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 2: course he shut the government down and he didn't want

1794
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: to give anybody money. Everybody forgets it was just this

1795
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: year that we had the longest government shut down like

1796
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 2: ever a bar and for some reason, it's already just

1797
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: like gone by the wayside.

1798
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 3: Motherfucker's still trying to recoup that money, right.

1799
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 2: Roger Stone apologizes the federal judge for posting a photo

1800
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 2: of her with gun the crosshairs over her days after

1801
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: a federal judge gagged roger Stone from talking about the

1802
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: Special Councils Russia investigation around US District Court and Washington.

1803
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 2: The Republican strategist and provocateur on Monday posted a photo

1804
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: of the judge with crosshairs.

1805
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 3: In the background.

1806
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 4: What what do you mean the cross hairs?

1807
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 3: Gun? Crosshairs like?

1808
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 5: What?

1809
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 3: Scope like? This is a picture of somebody what it

1810
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 3: would look like when you put a scope on him?

1811
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 4: Oh?

1812
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: Are you trying to shoot them?

1813
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 4: Idea? The fuck is this?

1814
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 3: Yep?

1815
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: He later submitted a formal apology to Jackson, but not

1816
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 2: before several hours during which he posted and deleaded a

1817
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: slightly muted version of the original tried to play down

1818
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 2: the symbolism. Please inform the court that the photograph and

1819
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: comment today was improper, should not have been.

1820
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 3: That's his lawyer telling him not to do that shit.

1821
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 3: Nothing happened to him, by the way.

1822
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 2: So Trump's dumb trade war cost Americans three billion dollars

1823
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: a month last year. No shit, whomer Donald Trump campaign

1824
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 2: stafford allegence he kissed her without consenting twenty sixteen.

1825
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 3: She's a black, though, so I don't know if that's

1826
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 3: gonna hold anyway.

1827
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 4: It don't hold when the white ones saying.

1828
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 3: It there's twenty one other women at of a Q,

1829
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 3: so I guess, get in line, Get in line.

1830
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: The fuck is still working for Donald Trump. Like, I

1831
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 2: hate to blame the victim, but I mean, come on,

1832
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 2: this nigga is Donald Trump. You saw grab him by

1833
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: the pussy video and was like I should be okay though,

1834
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 2: or maybe she thought she'd be okay she was black,

1835
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: Like he ain't into us.

1836
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's crazy. Matthew Whittaker left the Justice Department.

1837
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: That's the ball headed dude that literally felt like he

1838
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: got hired about a week ago and then that motherfucker

1839
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: was just gone.

1840
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 4: Who was unqualified for the job.

1841
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 3: He took over the position, and oh, go ahead, sir,

1842
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: he was unqualified for the job. Probably. I don't know

1843
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 3: enough about him to be honest.

1844
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: I just know that he had been serving as senior

1845
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: counselor at the Justice Department since Attorney General William barr

1846
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 2: I was sworn in last month, and he took that

1847
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 2: job in November and was stepping down in March. Donald

1848
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 2: Trump hosts another college championship team and he offered them

1849
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: fast food again, so it wasn't just a football.

1850
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 3: Football thing. He also did it to.

1851
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 2: NCAA Division one AA champion North Dakota State.

1852
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 5: And you know what, somebody was talking about this, and

1853
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is true or not, somebody

1854
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 5: was saying that because he's so disliked, they were saying

1855
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 5: that a lot of.

1856
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 3: Athletics they are.

1857
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 4: Just gonna opt just not to go no more, just

1858
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 4: not to see the president anymore, because.

1859
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: Ye're not worth it. I wouldn't go in a professional sport.

1860
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: But see what people forget is he's a college sports.

1861
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: College teams have nationalism written into them. It's not like

1862
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 2: the NFL, where guys are rich or the NBA where

1863
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: guys are rich and they can like the entire slavery

1864
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: complex of what college sports is for a lot of

1865
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: these athletes is.

1866
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 3: Kind of like that that.

1867
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it is slavery, but you know, the

1868
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: whole setup of we will, we will pay you in

1869
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: essentially college tokens that you can only spend on college campus,

1870
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,679
Speaker 2: and you are beholding to a coach who makes millions

1871
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: and millions of dollars in endorsements and then and also

1872
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: in salary, and that's the real face of the team.

1873
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 3: Well, the vast majority of these.

1874
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: College coaches are white dudes, and the vast majority of

1875
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: white dudes who voted voted for Trump, so I would

1876
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 2: not be shocked if you know, college colleges will will

1877
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: still continue to come during the Trump White House. I

1878
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: think professional sports will be the ones that are harder

1879
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: to get everyone.

1880
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:39,839
Speaker 4: To come agreed.

1881
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 3: Uh, and especially the professional sports that have black athletes.

1882
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: Attempt to override Trump veto on National Emergency Resolution fails

1883
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: in house. Yeah, he wants to get that wild built.

1884
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: Sarah Sanders denied knowledge of a porn payoff and then

1885
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: left the press brief init before anybody could talk to

1886
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 2: her about it. She stumbled for like a minute and

1887
01:26:58,760 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: then left.

1888
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 4: A human being.

1889
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 5: Yep, I really hate to say that about somebody, but lord,

1890
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 5: she is the president.

1891
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Had Betsy DeVos proposed cutting special Olympics funding, and then

1892
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: he later said right before a meeting like, oh no, no,

1893
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: I talked to my people, We're not gonna cut the

1894
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 2: funding right before the meeting to make himself look I

1895
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: guess magnanimous or whatever. Meanwhile, of course, nobody knew what

1896
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 2: the fuck he was doing. And then he pivoted the

1897
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: healthcare which none of the Republicans were briefed on. So

1898
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 2: they were like, what the fuck, what is happening?

1899
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 3: Now? Let's see Trump is.

1900
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 2: Taking credit for Obama's drop job gains as they continue

1901
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 2: to rate rise at the exact proportion that Obama had

1902
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 2: it going after two years of getting hit with that

1903
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: recession and then for six years having nothing but job

1904
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: bro It's growing at the exact same rate of his

1905
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 2: seventh and eighth year as president. And Trump is taking

1906
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: all the credit as if it's his policies, which actually

1907
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 2: have not gone into really any effect yet.

1908
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 5: I don't think people understand that. When they do, it's

1909
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 5: gonna be all whole motherfucking difference difference.

1910
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 2: Let's see Trump, Trump visited Mount Vernon, and of course

1911
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: George Washington own Mount Vernon.

1912
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 3: Uh, he made it.

1913
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 2: It was like a one bedroom like house at one point,

1914
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 2: and now it's like this big ass, like you know, establishment,

1915
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: like it's huge.

1916
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 3: It's a huge mansion now.

1917
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: And so Trump said, well, why didn't he name it

1918
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: after himself? He was so smart, he should have put

1919
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 2: his name on it. You gotta put your name on stuff,

1920
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: and no one remembers you, he said of George Washington.

1921
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:46,839
Speaker 3: George Washington, and of course the VIPs tour guide mentioned

1922
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 3: that he did name Washington, d C. After himself, Oh.

1923
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 4: Fucking city, whole goddamn city, dog.

1924
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 3: And Trump said, that's a good point. So that's our president.

1925
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: Trump picks former presidential candidate Herman Kine for federal.

1926
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 3: Boardine nine is back. Yep, Libya is back. Let me

1927
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 3: see which one is that?

1928
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 2: Michelle Bachman Hell's godly. Trump will never see a more

1929
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: biblical president. Evangelicals have lost their motherfucking mind in this country.

1930
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 2: It's uh the height of evil that they would co

1931
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: sign this man. Of all the men they have ever.

1932
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 3: Co signed, he is literally the worst one. He's the

1933
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 3: least godly of any of these people.

1934
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,799
Speaker 2: He's a fucking got wives and ex wives and babies

1935
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 2: all over the place. He's fucking porn stars like he's

1936
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: just an avarice of sin. And these motherfuckers are so

1937
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 2: happy to try to get some abortion laws pass it.

1938
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 3: They're calling him a godly man.

1939
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 2: Sad really, his Trump's sister in her ended an investigation

1940
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: into her by retiring.

1941
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 4: I didn't even know.

1942
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 2: Apparently the whole family is, the whole goddamn family is corrupt.

1943
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 3: Is that what's happening? I pay attention. If you just

1944
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 3: a Trump, you just get investigated. It's like just investigators.

1945
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 3: It's very likely that whatever happened, she did something. She's

1946
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 3: a Trump. Yeah, that's her picture right there, So she

1947
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 3: favor him.

1948
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 4: That's not good.

1949
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying so you can see the family resemblance.

1950
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers files copyright claim after Trump shares video with

1951
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: music from The Dark Night. Yeah, they was like, what

1952
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 2: you're not going to do another another strike for black

1953
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 2: panther boom.

1954
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 3: He knew not to fuck with our shit, GOP sent it.

1955
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 3: Or Trump lied about hush money payments because he loves

1956
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 3: his family.

1957
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 2: Oh well, the most biblical president ever lied about the

1958
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 2: affairs that he had on his family and paid the porn.

1959
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 3: Started not to talk about. Understood, understood.

1960
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: David Clark reportedly fired from the jobs that support Trump.

1961
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 3: That's the sheriff angri hoodie as jail calls him.

1962
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 4: Hey, dude, the look angry hoodie.

1963
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 3: Ben Carson supposedly wants out.

1964
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Isn't that always the case when you can't get out

1965
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 2: the sunken place without someone flashing the picture in your face.

1966
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 3: So maybe that's what happened. So I took a.

1967
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 2: Selfie and this nigga woke up and Michelle Obama's labeled

1968
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,560
Speaker 2: in sensitive for comparing Trump to a divorced dad. She

1969
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 2: basically said that Trump America wanted to hang out with

1970
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 2: his fun, irresponsible, divorced dad on the weekend, and now

1971
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 2: they got sick and they.

1972
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 3: Stuck with his ass. All right, now let's get to

1973
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 3: the white people news.

1974
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you realize, Oh this shit ain't fun all the time.

1975
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 3: Shout out to the dads. They tried to take offense.

1976
01:31:52,560 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 2: Okay, all right then guys, all right, CBS word, they

1977
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 2: can't afford Gail King.

1978
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 4: Oh, Gail King going after all the wards. She's like, oh,

1979
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 4: I'm going after the all deal.

1980
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 2: Would she wants to double her current five and a

1981
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 2: half million dollar salary?

1982
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, goddamn right. I'm the one that got r Kelly up.

1983
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 3: Here in order to continue her her CVS Morning News stint. Yes,

1984
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 3: pay me, pay me.

1985
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 4: I's watch me. If I was a white woman, you

1986
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 4: would pay me.

1987
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 3: Pay me, bitch. Listen, you know who fucked this up

1988
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 3: for y'all, Megan Kelly.

1989
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 4: Right, mm hmm, it was.

1990
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 2: Straight until Megan Kelly. Tell me Kelly, I had to

1991
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 2: pay mag Kelly all that money to be racist and

1992
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: be bad.

1993
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 3: At TV and have to leave that job early.

1994
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 4: And people saw that.

1995
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 2: Gail King was like, oh no, I do a very

1996
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 2: good job. I ain't never had enough scandals run my coins.

1997
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 2: I need all of my cash, all my cash.

1998
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 4: What was the highest rating on a random Friday?

1999
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 3: Not my show?

2000
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 4: Meet me right? Meet me right?

2001
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,680
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, mm hmmm yep. I mean, I'm sure it's

2002
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 3: other people that's looking at this money and they word like,

2003
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 3: how can I get some of this money? What's going on? Gail?

2004
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 3: Can you explain how I can get paid?

2005
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 4: Like you?

2006
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 3: Why you get eleven million dollars? So what do he suggests?

2007
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 3: How suggest you just just keep playing man? Don't worry

2008
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 3: about what goes on at the top of things. Mm hm,

2009
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 3: don't worry about what's going on top of things my

2010
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 3: eleven million? Okay, move on, make all your money.

2011
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 2: Wendy Williams's husband Kevin Hunter apologizes as he is fired

2012
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: as executive producer on her show.

2013
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 4: Oh he was executive yes, bit you gone we How was.

2014
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 3: He still showing up the work right? How was he

2015
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 3: still showing up the work? How well you putting your

2016
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 3: locals on one at a time to slide your ass

2017
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 3: up into the job knowing you done drug this woman's

2018
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 3: entire name through the mud just by your mere existence.

2019
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 3: I don't must be nice mother's like.

2020
01:33:58,479 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 4: He probably shocked he got fired.

2021
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 3: Hell of a drug, Hell of a drug that don't

2022
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 3: make no sense.

2023
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 2: Kevin Hunter has been fired as executive do so on

2024
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 2: his Strange Windy Williams show as a two hundred and

2025
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars ferrari.

2026
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 3: He bought his baby mama is told away. Williams decided

2027
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:18,759
Speaker 3: to filing.

2028
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: She had enough of his philandering and after nearly twenty years,

2029
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: serve him divorce papers at her TV studio at last Thursday.

2030
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 4: I know you're gonna be here because you're gonna shut

2031
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 4: up for work. Mm hm.

2032
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 2: The forty seven year old was fired, okay, expurgigated. He

2033
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 2: was fired from the show as engeneager. A source a

2034
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 2: show confirmed to Dailymail dot com. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

2035
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 2: we're talking about seen a Wendy's manager get fired.

2036
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 4: Come on, wait on the day off.

2037
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2038
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 2: The source also said Hunter has been given forty eight

2039
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,839
Speaker 2: I removed belongings from their marrit A home in Livingston.

2040
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 3: He's over there like I don't keep nothing over that,

2041
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 3: no way.

2042
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 2: Wendy reached her tipping point, learning he had been living

2043
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 2: a high life with his decade long mistress, Sharena Hudson,

2044
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 2: who gave birth last months, flurging on the roysis Ferrari's

2045
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 2: and gifted her with diamonds. All off of with this

2046
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 2: hard work, released an apology on Tuesday.

2047
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 4: It was like a baby that's too far Hunter.

2048
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 3: Releasing apology on Tuesday. A minute. He was not proud

2049
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 3: of his.

2050
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 2: Recent actions and was trying to write some wrongs while

2051
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: taking full accountability for what he's done.

2052
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 4: M m, well, you're gonna write some wrongs at another location.

2053
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And this uh his statement came after, of course,

2054
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 3: his Ferrari got for the way mm hmm. And he

2055
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 3: got served with divorce papers in the box and with flowers.

2056
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 4: I believe mm hmmm, because she knew he would open them.

2057
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 3: Hm.

2058
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 2: Kevin had expected to stay at the show, and as

2059
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 2: Wendy's manager, he ran the show with the eye fist.

2060
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 2: He was a guy who kept the sharks at bay.

2061
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 2: But when Wendy saw the photos of him and Sharena

2062
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 2: last week on the Daily Mail going out for dinner

2063
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:09,759
Speaker 2: and her driving around the Ferrari.

2064
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 3: She was furious.

2065
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that was what tipped her over the ass. She

2066
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: was like, he's gotta go. She now wants him out

2067
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 2: of her life completely. She's given him forty eight hours

2068
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 2: to clear his office and clear as long as side

2069
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,839
Speaker 2: of the house. Wendy's sister, Wanda, came up from Florida

2070
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 2: over the weekend and she's helping get everything out order.

2071
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 3: Wendy means business. She's cleaning the house. I find it

2072
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 3: so funny because she was telling us like, no, everything's fine,

2073
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 3: We'll make it through this. We always do.

2074
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 2: Like girl, she he just got you out here looking

2075
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: like a complete fucking food Have you asked him if

2076
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 2: y'all are fun and y'all gonna make it through? Cuz

2077
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 2: it does not look the future don't look too bright.

2078
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,799
Speaker 3: So yep mm mmmm.

2079
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: And now she's apartment hunting, so good luck to her

2080
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: dealing with a trash ass man of bringing anybody down.

2081
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 3: A large bird at tax A Hills is falling owner

2082
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:01,759
Speaker 3: in Florida.

2083
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 4: What the San Diego Zoo animal Planet?

2084
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 3: I mean, well, that's white folks too, right, This is

2085
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 3: white folks news.

2086
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 2: The San Diego Zoo calls castlewarres, the world's most dangerous

2087
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 2: bird with a four inch with four inch dagger like

2088
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 2: claws on each foot. That people don't know dinosaurs came

2089
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 2: from birds. Birds came from dinosaurs?

2090
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 4: Like what? How?

2091
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

2092
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 4: How can you legally own this? No about it? A? Hey,

2093
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 4: we got a rule. A you can't be owning.

2094
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 3: Shit like this. Guess what country is native to.

2095
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 4: Australia.

2096
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 2: A large flightless bird native to Australia and New Guinea

2097
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 2: attacked and killed his owner when the man fell on

2098
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 2: his property in Florida. You go out there and feed

2099
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 2: this little motherfucker every day. The one day you trip,

2100
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 2: he just goes to town on your ass.

2101
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 3: That sucks. Uh. The victim, whose name was not released,

2102
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 3: was apparently reading the birds. It looks like it was

2103
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 3: an accident. It was accidental. My understanding is that the

2104
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 3: gentleman was in the vicinity of the bird and at

2105
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 3: some point fell, and when he fell, he was attacked.

2106
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 3: Who wants a pet like that?

2107
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 4: Oh? Inch clause my nigga.

2108
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 3: A dog will at least try to help you up.

2109
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 3: Cassawaris are similar.

2110
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 2: To emos and stand up to six feet tall, weighing

2111
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty pounds with black body figure feathers

2112
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 2: and bright blue heads and necks.

2113
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 4: Good god, it could run the average person over.

2114
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 2: It can slice open any predator or potential threat with

2115
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 2: a swift kick. Powerful legs help the Castawarry run up

2116
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 2: to thirty one miles an hour through deads far as

2117
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 2: under butt brush.

2118
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 4: Good god, ain't no ready to run.

2119
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 5: He's gonna catch up with you, not unless you like

2120
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 5: an athlete, and even a lot of them can't run

2121
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 5: that fast.

2122
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 3: So yep, motherfucker fell down? And who made it?

2123
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 4: The people from the rest park?

2124
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know. I don't know who. I don't

2125
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 3: know what happened. I don't even know how. You want

2126
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 3: to own that shit?

2127
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 4: Why it should be illegal?

2128
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 3: It should be illegal? Like what is it inside of

2129
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 3: you that you're just like? Man? I need to like

2130
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 3: fucking own that shit?

2131
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 4: Is it dangerous and could kill you?

2132
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 3: I want it right. A stand up comedian dodge of

2133
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,639
Speaker 3: a heart attack on stage.

2134
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 4: Oh that's not good.

2135
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:31,600
Speaker 2: Veteran commediy meanian ian Ian Conito died on stage I

2136
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 2: performing stand up. The BBC reports the sixty year old

2137
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 2: his breathing became heavy before he sat down on stool.

2138
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 2: He then became silent for a few minutes for during

2139
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 2: the Thursday show, ultimately suffering a heart attack. The show's

2140
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 2: host Andrew Bird told the BBC that the audience at

2141
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 2: the Bicester, England Bar thought that he was performing a bit.

2142
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 2: The crowd continued laughing, oblivious to anything being wrong.

2143
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 4: Why oh we thint I was part of part of

2144
01:39:59,320 --> 01:39:59,799
Speaker 4: his sketch.

2145
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 2: I guess so it was an act out. At least

2146
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,799
Speaker 2: he can say his last performance killed.

2147
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

2148
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:18,839
Speaker 4: I guess it was a heart stopper.

2149
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 3: That's the first time of comedian. Didn't just get the light,

2150
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 3: but they saw the light. Don't go towards the light. Yeah,

2151
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 3: he fucking died on the stage, man, which is uh

2152
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 3: terrible all right, so on chat said, looks like that's

2153
01:40:52,840 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 3: my time, folks, that's a good one. Damn, damn, damn.

2154
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, he even joked about his health while own stage. Yeah,

2155
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 2: tell him the crowd. Imagine if I died in front

2156
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 2: of you lot here.

2157
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 3: Oh oh no, everyone on Bird went on stage, the manager,

2158
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 3: he said, uh, everyone in the crowd and me and

2159
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:26,600
Speaker 3: clude thought he was joking. Even when I walked on

2160
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 3: stage to touch his arm, I.

2161
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 2: Expected him to say boom, but as evident that something

2162
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:31,799
Speaker 2: was right to off due, the nurses and the police

2163
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 2: officer started chest compressions and the ambulance was called.

2164
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2165
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 2: He said he wasn't feeling well before the performance, but

2166
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 2: decided to go through with the set. Only ten minutes

2167
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 2: before he sat down, he joked about having a stroke. Damn,

2168
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 2: he said, this is like some weird ass like.

2169
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 3: A fucking what's that? What's that series that Jordan Phiel

2170
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 3: is doing? The heart? It sounded like a twilight Zone,

2171
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 3: like what if a comedian is Every word came true

2172
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 3: or something like all his jokes came true. And then

2173
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 3: he made a joke about dying on stages.

2174
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 2: This niggas died. He's like, I'm dying up here. Everybody's like, what, donal,

2175
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm dying up here? Oh man, Yeah, he said, imagine

2176
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 2: having a stroke at waking up speaking Welsh. He came

2177
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 2: out feeling really sick. He just sat there for five

2178
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 2: minutes watching him, laughing at him.

2179
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 3: He was dying on stage. Was how Cogneto would have

2180
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 3: wanted to go. It's how Bird said what Bird said, except.

2181
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 2: He want more money in a bigger venue. Cognito's real

2182
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 2: name was Paul Barbary. He was born in London in

2183
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight. He had been performing since the mid eighties.

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Speaker 3: Damn long time, right that guy, poor guy, let's see.

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Speaker 2: Laurie Loffler rejected a plea deal because she thought the

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Speaker 2: DA was bluffing, and Laurie Laughlin quickly found out that

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Speaker 2: the DA don't bluff, saying a game of poker.

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Speaker 5: Ain't no bullshit with them. They're like, bitch, we got

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Speaker 5: we go after the week. When when we show up

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Speaker 5: it's serious. We ain't not your local police officer.

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Speaker 3: So now they're ready to hit her with more charges.

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Speaker 4: That was a oh word, they said. She showed up

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Speaker 4: signing auto grass and ship.

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Speaker 3: I saw it.

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Speaker 2: She got out of that car and signed all the

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Speaker 2: grass like it was a goddamn comic con.

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Speaker 3: And I said, this woman want to go to jail.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, oh my god, that's so ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: Girl, she said, don't like it's showtime right then, your pa,

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Speaker 5: all right, we gotta get out of here. And and

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Speaker 5: the thing about it, she was gonna do time. Oh sorry,

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Speaker 5: she was gonna do time regardless, but now she's gonna

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Speaker 5: do Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A man sparked a four hour siege was firearm cops

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Speaker 2: after pulling a Samurai sword on an electrician who couldn't

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Speaker 2: fix his boiler.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of pressure under there. Sounds like an

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Speaker 3: electrified situation. I'm sure that electrician was shocked when you

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Speaker 3: pull out that sword.

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Speaker 4: I guess that what happened when you let things boil over.

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Speaker 2: Sorry to cover the story, so timeline trying to keep

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Speaker 2: you guys up to current events. Clark Smith was jailed

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Speaker 2: for two years or eight months over the bizarre incident

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Speaker 2: in Dundee last December. The city council had sent out

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Speaker 2: sparky Ian McLean on a I guess sparky is what

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Speaker 2: they call him over there on a I mean that

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Speaker 2: position the electricians on a late night call the Smith's

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Speaker 2: flat in Charleston area, Dundee in December twenty eighth because

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Speaker 2: he had no heating. Mister McLean identified the fault but

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Speaker 2: said a gas engineer we needed to deal with it.

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Speaker 3: Angered Smith.

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Speaker 2: The thug didn't got in the council worker's face, screaming

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Speaker 2: abuse at him as he tried to lead a property

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Speaker 2: around ten pm. Fiscal difute Charmaine Guildmartino, Dundee, sheriff court

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Speaker 2: that having gotten to the cop gotten into the close.

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Speaker 2: Smith then emerged from the flat wielding a Samurai sword

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Speaker 2: in screament run run, fucking run, go back to your

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Speaker 2: own scheme. Miss gil Martin added a Noine nine to

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Speaker 2: nine call that was made in the police.

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Speaker 3: Attendant this we're just happening. It's they're so nice with

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Speaker 3: the language. The police attended the call like it was

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Speaker 3: an invite, like a wedding.

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Speaker 2: The accused told the neighbor the council had sent someone

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Speaker 2: to repair his boiler, but the guy said he couldn't

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Speaker 2: fix it as a sword was involved. A full firearms

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Speaker 2: incident was declared and firearms officers that negotiate their dog

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Speaker 2: being uniformed officers were.

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Speaker 3: Sent to the property. They surrounded the property. The q

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Speaker 3: surrendered themselves around two fifty five Am was taken into

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Speaker 3: police custody and now he's in jail. All right, guys,

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Speaker 3: it's it. We got to get out of here. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much.

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Speaker 2: Look out for me on making podcast great again, as

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Speaker 2: I should be hopping on with JL and tonight at

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Speaker 2: seven thirty pm Eastern Standard time.

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Speaker 3: Thirty minutes at of the show is we may or

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Speaker 3: may not be on Vice News, so we got recorded.

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Speaker 4: We don't know if we made the cut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if they decided to air that interview, I guess

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Speaker 2: we'll all find out and be surprised tonight.

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Speaker 3: We will. If not, then fuck it.

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Speaker 2: It'd be like the last time we was on Vice

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Speaker 2: News and recorded all that stuff and weren't on there.

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Speaker 3: So shit happens. All right, guys, We'll talk to y'all later.

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Speaker 3: Until then, I love you too, Fa