1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: You've played through long period areas he played. We all 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: had that run, right, So talk about some of the stuff. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: The narrative is out there right now. In seventies, eighties, nineties, 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: two thousand basketball, we just talked about it. Forgot how 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: basketball is changed. You just had a game. Talk about 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the eras and players. 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Now, if you don't mind, I would, I would say 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: in the seventies, so I I had a new show 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: coming out. But I wait too, they give me that, Okay, 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: But I had a young cat on who told me, 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: and he was right, the best And another kid had 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: told me the best player he's ever seen was Kobe Bryant. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: I said, how old are you? He said sixteen, You're right, 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: the best player. This other guy said the best center 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: is Joker, he's twenty four. You are right, You're a 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: hundred percent right. Because you haven't seen or experienced. The 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: NBA decided they were not going to show any video 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: from nineteen seventy four down or nineteen seventy eight, nineteen 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 2: seventy four down. Keep sending this kid pictures of wil 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: Chamberlain constantly. Will chamber ran a four five forty four 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: right seven two. 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait o g h wait wait 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait a 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: fucking minute. 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: He ran a what forty five? 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Forty Okay, it's so. 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 4: Can we can we that been documented? Yeah he was trapped. 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 4: That was like NFLS was just like DK metcalf ship. 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the five seven three, So imagine he can 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: run this fast jump high jump shot put. Honest, what 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 2: you're talking about. He's the strongest man he's ever seen 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: in his life. 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Real. 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that makes sense why he fucked a thousand women? 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, my god two run a four five high jump seven. 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: He was the strongest person, not the regular Joe Annot 37 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: Swarz said that, so we have. 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: We have that, then we have like, okay, you got 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 2: to take this consideration. It was a hell a lot 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: of racism. We couldn't get a cab. Now in twenty 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: twenty five and they take cabs to the game. There's 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: a picture of Wilt Chamberlain, I mean, uh Clyde Clyde 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: Fraser on the train going to a Nick game. I 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: as Phil Jackson, because yeah, we used to take cabs 45 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: together to get get to the game. They played in 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: Chuck Taylor's and they got paid twenty five cents. 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: You matter have fucked up your feet to be playing them, 48 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: Chuck Taylors. 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: No, that's why when you see him walking down, they flopping. 50 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Kevin McHale, Kevin Mchell, I love them, that's dude. Coach 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: me in Minnesota. And the way he was walking, I 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: was like, I can't imagine that everything's fused together. 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: Everything Bill used to sit on that high ass chill. Yeah, 54 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: he's sitting up and just everything just looked uncomfortable. 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's time to get up, they call the 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: time about he'd be like. 57 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: Another time. 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: So you had you had guys who you know, they 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: had the deal or play in that era. Then in 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: the eighties it was you know, I'm watching dal Dawkins 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: with big rope chains and Duncan and all that kind 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: of stuff. But then came the era I came in, 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: Like MJ came out in eighty four and that's when 64 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: David Stern became the commissioner and he said that Michael, 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: you and I are going to change the world. So 66 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: part of the reason he's the Messiah and they don't 67 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: talk about anybody else is because that's part of the 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: He is the greatest I played against but there were 69 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: some bad people that came before, but they will never 70 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 2: get that shine. And then you got the Shaquille came. 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: You know that I was. I was playing here in 72 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: Miami where we had to play against a Quille and 73 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: Ron Rannie Sykelely obviously got the flu the day of 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: the game. 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: Obviously got the obviously it was called. 76 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: The sex Shaquidah flu. He got the flu. You know, 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: that kind of thing is in shot. If Shaq realized 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: how dominant he was when he was young, he was, 79 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: oh my god, this this dude. And I was just 80 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: looking at him like, and I'm doing all kind of 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: thumb grass and pinchers and kicking his ankle. He's like, 82 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: little man, get away from me, that kind of But 83 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: if he knew, so Shaq came in and that was. 84 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: A whole new change. But now. 85 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: I have never I went to a Clipper game. My 86 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: man shout out to Tyler and b Shaw, but b 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: Shaw was coaching, yes, and so much was going on 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: the screen was so this is why I laugh at that. 89 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: At the Boston Garden, it was just numbers. There was 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: no no video anywhere, right, There were so many videos 91 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: that when the ref made a call and the crowd 92 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: didn't like it. I saw four angles to the ref. 93 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: I had to look up and been like, my bad, 94 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: you know, and and it was and you can't yell 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: at the ref there. They do not play that. They 96 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: want to make it a referee friendly place. They fans 97 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: not not the way if you're doing it wrong. Yeah, 98 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: because I was with the CEO and she was like, 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: we don't we want home courted, man, we don't want 100 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: you destroying our home court. She's brilliant shout out. But 101 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: then I was watching, and I mean, you would have 102 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: been Luca right, because you can shoot it, you can 103 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: handle it, and your defense was absent a lot. Sometimes 104 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: you were resting on defense, letting your feet still. People 105 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: would zip. 106 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: That was a nice heard. 107 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: Someone said that was a lot, a lot, a lot. 108 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: Take a charge though he could take a charge. Yeah, 109 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: when when you know he was in game. 110 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: But you right now, you you gotta come down. I 111 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: saw uh for the for the Celtics about to shoot. 112 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: Now he's seven one, he's three feet from the basket 113 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: and he kicked it out and. 114 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: He threw it. 115 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: I swear, I said, oh man, oh man, I'm so selfish. 116 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: I would have that face, I would have let it go. 117 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: You, I would have let it go. 118 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: I would have said, nah, man, sorry about the two. 119 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: I got it. 120 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: This one is these two is right here. 121 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: I can't get that three. But that mentality of analytics. 122 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: I was coaching in Puerto Rico and shout out to 123 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: my man Philip Wheeler. He got Finally they got one 124 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: of my players of Philadelphia, great kid twenty two years old, 125 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: shoot it jump. But he's a defender as well. And 126 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: I was trying to get these guys. I said, if 127 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: anybody's three feet off, you shoot the three. But they're 128 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: so fundamental in Puerto Rico, like it used to be here. 129 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: That old basketball is playing in Portogo. Okay, the way 130 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: we used to play it. 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