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Speaker 1: Time today. What time is it game Time? So third
Speaker 1: week in a row, Aaron Rodgers had the ball late
Speaker 1: with a chance to win Denver, Minnesota and now Buffalo
Speaker 1: and could not get it done. You know, I've said
Speaker 1: this four years. The strangest stat about Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 1: how few come from behind wins he has considering how
Speaker 1: many big close games he's been in. The Jets lead
Speaker 1: the NFL and penalty yards are second in total penalties
Speaker 1: twenty two total penalties between the two teams. That I
Speaker 1: did not love the officiating. I thought there were two
Speaker 1: calls that already bothered me. The one when Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: tucked it got hit fumble would have been huge for Buffalo.
Speaker 1: They called it an incomplete pass. Didn't like that call
Speaker 1: at all. Also, a Jets pass interference wiped out with
Speaker 1: an unnecessary roughness against Buffalo. Did not like that call
Speaker 1: at all. I don't complain about officiating, all right, I don't.
Speaker 1: That's what you do your fans, I get it. I don't.
Speaker 1: But I thought I didn't like either of those calls.
Speaker 1: And again this game came down. So I had predicted
Speaker 1: before the year Buffalo will win this division for what
Speaker 1: the fifth straight year, mostly because of Josh Allen, and
Speaker 1: then the Jets New englandle stink They'll be fourth, and
Speaker 1: the Jets Miami will go down to the end of
Speaker 1: the season, battling for the playoffs the final weekend, and
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if I had either one
Speaker 1: of them in the playoffs. I don't think I had
Speaker 1: the Jets in the playoffs, and I may have had Miami,
Speaker 1: but I think they'll go down to the final week
Speaker 1: and I think if Tuoa comes back here and plays
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, Miami will heat up. So
Speaker 1: the Jets are now two and four, Bills are four
Speaker 1: and two, So it's working out. The Jets are fine, though,
Speaker 1: don't overreact. They've got Justin Field's coming up. They've got
Speaker 1: Drake May around the corner. They got Anthony Richardson coming up.
Speaker 1: They've got a stretch of really weak quarterbacks, and Aaron's
Speaker 1: planned pretty well. As the Bills won tonight twenty three
Speaker 1: twenty there were opportunities for both teams. But when you
Speaker 1: get into these games like tonight, these big division games,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's Cincinnati Baltimore. Lamar Jackson was
Speaker 1: the difference. You know, when you watch these big divisional games,
Speaker 1: it's the quarterback making a play. And two plays at
Speaker 1: the end of this game by the Bills, and they
Speaker 1: made the two big plays in the game. Actually three
Speaker 1: the Rap the safety for the Bills. Rap who went
Speaker 1: to the University of Washington, good player, bounced around, had
Speaker 1: some injuries in his career, physical physical safety, broke up
Speaker 1: what appeared to be a potential catch by the Jets. Huge,
Speaker 1: huge play by Rap. Then Taran Johnson with one of
Speaker 1: the best interceptions I've ever seen. It felt like Ed Reid.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody understands how great of a play that
Speaker 1: was by Taran Johnson of Buffalo. He literally had to
Speaker 1: do a U turn tu and around Mike Williams slipped
Speaker 1: on one of his only targets tonight, and Johnson held
Speaker 1: onto the ball. That is an all time play. That's
Speaker 1: Ed Reed. That is incredible. So those two plays by
Speaker 1: the defense, then Josh Allen running for the first down,
Speaker 1: and again it's very Lamar Jackson, it's very Mahomes. It's
Speaker 1: just an ad libbed play where a supreme athlete outruns
Speaker 1: somebody else to the sticks. And that's the ballgame. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot of blame to go around. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously the Jets got rid of Matt Hackett and the
Speaker 1: offense looked better. That's what Robert Sala wanted to do
Speaker 1: and got fired. Robert Sala, the best coach on the staff,
Speaker 1: got fired. He's a defensive guy, and I don't think
Speaker 1: the Jets defensive play was as good tonight. It wasn't
Speaker 1: as tight. So if Sala would have remained the coach
Speaker 1: and been allowed to demote Matt Hackett, that could have
Speaker 1: been the ballgame. I think Saala is the best coach
Speaker 1: on the staff. But you know, Bill Belichick took a
Speaker 1: shot at Woody Johnson, and Belichick's had a much greater
Speaker 1: career than Woody Johnson, certainly in football. And he was
Speaker 1: talking to Eli and Peyton Manning on the Manning Cast,
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, ready fire aim, which is
Speaker 1: kind of an old line used around the NFL for
Speaker 1: disorganized and impulsive owners, and that's really what the Jets are.
Speaker 1: Robert Solid to me, should not have been fired. It
Speaker 1: makes everybody feel good when you fire the coach. He's
Speaker 1: the best coach on that staff. The defense was not
Speaker 1: as tight tonight. Unless I got reams and notes here,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's twenty three to twenty. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest, let's be fair here. The hail Mary, you
Speaker 1: get about one of those every four years as a quarterback,
Speaker 1: that hail mary makes it twenty seventeen at half or
Speaker 1: it's twenty ten Bills at half. So that's a bit
Speaker 1: of a break. I felt like the Bills earned the
Speaker 1: win more than the Jets earned keeping it close. It's
Speaker 1: a hail mary. It's called that for a reason. Also,
Speaker 1: you know the fumble that wasn't a fumble on the
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers passing tucking it back. Didn't love that. It's
Speaker 1: not like there weren't any calls that didn't go, you know,
Speaker 1: against the Jets tonight. But I you know, Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: you know, in the second quarter of that scrambling play
Speaker 1: to Matt Hollins, that was just an incredible touchdown pass
Speaker 1: to him to put the Bills up thirteen to ten.
Speaker 1: But the scramble play and thrown to Davis earlier, it's
Speaker 1: just so unique. Josh is such a unique all time talent. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets missed two field goals tonight, so
Speaker 1: this thing's just you know, I feel really feel like
Speaker 1: watching Aaron Rodgers struggle in late game situations, the owner
Speaker 1: being impulsive, the field goal kicker missing two kicks tonight,
Speaker 1: and Aaron. The last couple of weeks, he's gotten the
Speaker 1: crap hit out of him. He's taken shots. This feels
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers last season. I just don't know. It's
Speaker 1: a circus. He's going to get blamed for this. We
Speaker 1: have to be honest. You can blame whoever you want.
Speaker 1: It's now Aaron's team and Denver, Minnesota and the Bills. Tonight,
Speaker 1: he was the second best quarterback on the field in
Speaker 1: long stretches against the Vikings in the first half, certainly,
Speaker 1: and he was the second best quarterback on the field.
Speaker 1: And I do think Aaron is playing for his age
Speaker 1: at a really pretty high level. But he's taken hits.
Speaker 1: They've already had to demote his offensive coordinator, they've fired
Speaker 1: his coach. You're looking around, and you remember Aaron was
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Well, they just don't do any of
Speaker 1: that stuff. They don't do any of that stuff. So
Speaker 1: he goes from a really shrewd patient winning culture in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I mean, he's now, he's been injured, they
Speaker 1: fired his coach, they demote his buddy. He's getting rocked.
Speaker 1: I just don't see him coming back. I don't it
Speaker 1: just everything, you just it's the drip drip drip effect.
Speaker 1: It just wears on Aaron, who's not terribly patient anyway.
Speaker 1: Who and by the way, I don't think any of
Speaker 1: us are. I think as I've gotten older, I'm less
Speaker 1: patient than I was years ago. You get into a
Speaker 1: certain standard, you want things done a certain way. I'm
Speaker 1: probably much less patient than I was in my twenties
Speaker 1: or thirties. So you know, Aaron's eye rolls. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was frustrated on that bench you got to kick
Speaker 1: or missing two kicks in the biggest game. For the Jets,
Speaker 1: who are now two and four, I think they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna finish. I said, I thought they'd
Speaker 1: be like a nine to eight ten and seven team.
Speaker 1: That's about where they're going to finish. And Buffalo's gonna
Speaker 1: end up with probably eleven to twelve wins. And not
Speaker 1: only did the Hail Mary make this game closer than
Speaker 1: it would have been, but the Jets wins this year
Speaker 1: are against Will Levis and the Titans and Jacoby Brussett
Speaker 1: and the Patriots, and teams that start two and four
Speaker 1: have only an eleven percent chance to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So the Hail Mary, you know, you trail twenty to
Speaker 1: ten at half, it may it may never cinch up it.
Speaker 1: Buffalo's the better team, Buffalo's got the better quarterback. Buffalo
Speaker 1: made the three big play at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: Buffalo keeps winning this division. If you start four and two,
Speaker 1: that's the Bills. You make the playoffs sixty four percent
Speaker 1: of the time, and they will. You know, they didn't
Speaker 1: have their best running back tonight, James Cook so and
Speaker 1: to go on the road, have a couple of calls
Speaker 1: go against him and just make the three biggest plays
Speaker 1: of the game. Buffalo made all of them. Rap Teyaran Johnson,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen boom boom boom, three biggest plays of the
Speaker 1: game in order late and that's why the Bills are
Speaker 1: gonna win the division again. Hell of a football game
Speaker 1: for Monday night. I mean, the officiating drove me nuts,
Speaker 1: but that was a We've been very lucky this year.
Speaker 1: We've had, you know, Atlanta a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: overtime win. We've had really really good standalone games, really
Speaker 1: good standalone games. And I will say this about the officiating.
Speaker 1: I think about this sometimes in standalone games. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel like the officials are trying to make a point.
Speaker 1: They know everybody's watching, and so on that roughing, unnecessary
Speaker 1: roughness against Buffalo that wiped out the passenger finners on
Speaker 1: the Jets. Would that be called in the one o'clock window? Maybe,
Speaker 1: maybe not, But I felt like it was one of
Speaker 1: those things the league's watching. We're not going to tolerate
Speaker 1: the extra sauce. We're just not going to tolerate it.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes in standalone games, I feel like
Speaker 1: the NFL does that in the preseason, like they were
Speaker 1: over they will overcall a new rule just to make
Speaker 1: it very clear to the players, we're not going to
Speaker 1: allow this or tolerate this. I felt like tonight a
Speaker 1: couple of times they were trying to make a point
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. So right now in the AFC, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen leads his division, Lamar Jackson leads his division. Lamar
Speaker 1: would be my MVP. CJ. Stroud leads his division. Mahomes
Speaker 1: leads his easy to predict four for four. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you probably did the same thing. Best core back to
Speaker 1: leave their division. I think the NFC isn't quite as
Speaker 1: good at the top, and so it'll work itself out
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Now, I think feels like it's kind of
Speaker 1: separating from the rest of the NFC West. The rams
Speaker 1: off of buy are getting a little healthier, but it
Speaker 1: may be a little maybe a little late. I mean,
Speaker 1: they'd have to go on a five or six game
Speaker 1: winning streak to get back at the top of that division.
Speaker 1: You know, Doug Peterson had a reputation, so I was
Speaker 1: totally wrong. I thought he was a perfect fit, kind
Speaker 1: of a casual guy. I thought it was gonna work.
Speaker 1: But you know, when he went to Philadelphia at work,
Speaker 1: because Lori and Howie are so intense, and so they're
Speaker 1: hovering over the franchise right like you know that. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody in Philly we know they're security guy and the
Speaker 1: talk radio is on you if you have one bad
Speaker 1: situational series. Philadelphia holds its coaches responsible. You go down
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, nobody's paying attention and it's like the worst
Speaker 1: of Doug Peterson's come out. They're loose, they're not good
Speaker 1: on details. That was the knock when he went to Philly.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, and he's calling the plays. You know,
Speaker 1: he loves to give guys ice cream he's always rewarding him.
Speaker 1: He's like the stepdad everybody loves. You can't do that
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, You'll get your ass wrung out by WIP
Speaker 1: Radio the fans. I mean, that's Philadelphia is one of
Speaker 1: those studies. They hold you accountable. Jacksonville doesn't, and I
Speaker 1: think the team just feels loose and inefficient.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with anyone that makes the argument. By
Speaker 3: the time, if someone's listening to this Monday morning at breakfast,
Speaker 3: he might get relieved of his duties. I do think
Speaker 3: they'll watching Trevor Lawrence like separate from coaching just to
Speaker 3: make basic passes. And there were times today where his
Speaker 3: guys It's the NFL, had some bad drops. So I'm
Speaker 3: acting like this guy's JaMarcus Russell here or Joey Harrington.
Speaker 3: But for someone that got two hundred million dollars based
Speaker 3: on I would say limited production and success, it did
Speaker 3: feel a little bit like what bad NBA teams do,
Speaker 3: like the Washington Wizards when they gave Bradley Beal two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million dollars. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is going to work in that operation. That's right,
Speaker 3: and listen, I think at this point in time, I
Speaker 3: don't think it's really debatable that his career has been
Speaker 3: a borderline. I mean for him, not really. He's made
Speaker 3: a bunch of money, but as a player, the hype
Speaker 3: was very similar to Andrew Lucke, and you watch the
Speaker 3: guy play, he's not even in the same It wasn't
Speaker 3: even on the same level as Caleb Williams that a
Speaker 3: lot of people were making fun of, like three weeks previously.
Speaker 1: Oh Caleb was you know the there's sometimes John something
Speaker 1: happens where there's a convergence of things either good or bad,
Speaker 1: so you have sort of casual not tied on the details.
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, a quarterback who reportedly likes the game, doesn't
Speaker 1: live for it. A media that's toothless, and a market
Speaker 1: nobody pays attention to. So if you have a bad series,
Speaker 1: nobody calls you out. And there they've all joined together
Speaker 1: and it's it's what happened to why Nick Saban and
Speaker 1: guys like Nick Saban after wins called good press. You know,
Speaker 1: rat poison is that everybody acts the same way when
Speaker 1: they lose their pissed, but when you win, you get
Speaker 1: sloppy and lazy. And Jacksonville feels like a sloppy franchise.
Speaker 1: To me, all these things converge a quarterback that likes
Speaker 1: the game, but that was the knock. That was the
Speaker 1: knock very early in his career. Like he doesn't live
Speaker 1: for it, he's not obsessed by it. And Breeze was obsessed,
Speaker 1: Manning was, Mahomes is obsessed, And I just think all
Speaker 1: these things are adding up to a to a big
Speaker 1: soft pillow of a team.
Speaker 3: Yeah. To me, just their record speaks for itself since
Speaker 3: the Cons have owned the family. Just google where they've
Speaker 3: after every single year. I mean the majority is not
Speaker 3: the top ten, it's the top five. I mean that's
Speaker 3: hard to do, all right.
Speaker 1: He's a former scout for the Eagles. Philadelphia twenty, Cleveland sixteen.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. We could go on. I mean, he's playing
Speaker 1: because the owner wants him to play, and Kevin Stefanski's
Speaker 1: taking the sword for the organization. Deshaun just can't play.
Speaker 1: But it is interesting about Philly. So they were an
Speaker 1: eight and a half point favorite today and j Mack
Speaker 1: was all over this, and I'm like, I'm not taking
Speaker 1: an eight and a half point favorite because Philadelphia. It
Speaker 1: is weird. So if I just if you didn't watch
Speaker 1: the game and they said Jalen Hurts was sixteen to
Speaker 1: twenty five, fourteen rushes two sixty four to two TDS,
Speaker 1: AJ Brown DeVante Smith had touchdowns, you would think, Jesus,
Speaker 1: they look great when I watched them. I'll get to
Speaker 1: Sirianni in a second. Well, when I watched Philadelphia, I
Speaker 1: feel like they leave so much on the floor, so
Speaker 1: much on the table. Is that First of all, they're
Speaker 1: not the same team without AJ Brown. He's clearly a
Speaker 1: difference maker. Very rarely does a receiver have that kind
Speaker 1: of impact. I mean, you could Brandon Ayuk didn't do
Speaker 1: squat for weeks. San Francisco could still score points. Ceedee lamb,
Speaker 1: you take him out. Dallas can't score I mean, and
Speaker 1: AJ Brown is really I mean, I've never seen a
Speaker 1: coach when he loses a player act like Mike vrabelbin
Speaker 1: when they lost to AJ Brown, Like Vrabel was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can't remember that press conference. It's like I can't
Speaker 1: win here, Like it's over. And Rabel's not somebody who loves,
Speaker 1: you know, outspoken receivers. That's not his game. So but
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. I just I look at Philadelphia and I
Speaker 1: think the coach is screaming at fans. I feel I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like the roster's closer to an
Speaker 1: A and the performance always feels like a b AM
Speaker 1: I wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, the quarterback, like you said, we can
Speaker 3: get into Syriana here in a minute if we just
Speaker 3: use Jalen in a vacuum. Well, three of the plays
Speaker 3: he hit aj Brown twice on big go routes, and
Speaker 3: then he hit DeVante Adams or DeVante Smith on a
Speaker 3: big play. So what does that account for one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty five hundred and thirty of the two hundreds.
Speaker 1: Those guys are between the two one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: five yards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so to me, he's a go ball thrower, which
Speaker 3: when all you do is throw a gobal, this isn't
Speaker 3: college or high school that those don't hit often in
Speaker 3: the pros and kind of a scramble run around guy.
Speaker 3: He cannot pick you apart in the pocket. There was
Speaker 3: one point in time today in the game where I
Speaker 3: think Vilma was like, I don't know why these fans
Speaker 3: are booing. You don't know why It's thirteen to ten
Speaker 3: against the Browns. They can't move the ball and Jalen's
Speaker 3: the ball's flying all over the place. There is no
Speaker 3: rhythm to their offense. It looks very similar as it
Speaker 3: did last year. And at one point in time I
Speaker 3: looked down at the box score, I'm like, I'd have
Speaker 3: to find a way to get the ball to Saquan
Speaker 3: even more. Yeah, And I think sometimes coaches, you know
Speaker 3: he had when I look down, he was like fifteen
Speaker 3: rushes and he was averaging a little less than three
Speaker 3: yards of carry. Yeah, so most coaches freak out and go,
Speaker 3: this isn't working.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: You don't have Aden Manning or Tom Brady slinging the
Speaker 3: pill around. So just keep the Kyle Shanahans McVeigh back
Speaker 3: when he had Todd Gurley. They will stick with it
Speaker 3: because when you ever you have Derrick Henry, eventually the
Speaker 3: guy might break a play for thirty yards. Slows down
Speaker 3: the game, makes it easier on your quarterback. And I
Speaker 3: think they have been way too quick to get away
Speaker 3: from Saquon because really the only passes they're hitting are
Speaker 3: these kind of bombs down the field. It's why when
Speaker 3: you remove aj they look even worse. I mean, if
Speaker 3: aj obviously had been hurt like he had previous weeks.
Speaker 3: I think they lose today.
Speaker 1: Let me give you a comp if their defense was
Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom and Seattle, they could win a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Because when you go back and look at
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's career, what we know now happened late in Seattle,
Speaker 1: Denver and Pittsburgh. He was great with the rainbow throws
Speaker 1: over the top or when he was moving. He had
Speaker 1: a great running back. But if you ask Russell to
Speaker 1: sit in the pocket, Pete Carroll and John Snyder and
Speaker 1: Peyton were like, it doesn't work. So Philadelphia has not
Speaker 1: had a great defense, especially in the back end. So
Speaker 1: they lose. You know, they give up points. But for
Speaker 1: years and years, I said this Friday on the show
Speaker 1: is I was full. I thought Russ was engineering stuff.
Speaker 1: Let Russ cook. I bought into it. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're like, boy, when you take away
Speaker 1: that defense and Marshaw and You're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: he can't go toe to toe with the big guys
Speaker 1: from the pocket. If you can contain him, bring the
Speaker 1: rush ends in and just box him in. Russell's a
Speaker 1: very ineffective part two. Is a better pocket guy than
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And I look at Jalen hurts and and
Speaker 1: I see a little Russell Wilson where over the top, Yes,
Speaker 1: surround it with the I mean, good guy. He had
Speaker 1: the best center in a decade, Lane Johnson, aj Brown.
Speaker 1: It's easy to look like it's you, but to your
Speaker 1: point in the pocket, I don't trust him.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing watching Washington play today, Jaden is
Speaker 3: such a better thrower standing there within the tackle box,
Speaker 3: if not really even close. Well, he's got a better arm,
Speaker 3: he's more naturally accurate. Most people thought. You know, whenever
Speaker 3: you text people the league when Jalen hurts the struggling
Speaker 3: they all go yeah. It kind of reminds me Oklahoma again.
Speaker 3: Kind of reminds me of the guy that everyone scouted
Speaker 3: and thought he is when he got drafted second round.
Speaker 3: The Eagles didn't just get questioned because they drafted a
Speaker 3: quarterback in the second round. When they had wentz it
Speaker 3: was they took him that high. He was like, damn.
Speaker 3: And sometimes it comes out like he's not a great
Speaker 3: thrower of the football. Obviously he throws a good go ball,
Speaker 3: but just a good thrower of the football in the pocket.
Speaker 3: We just talked about Kirk Cousins. I had Jay Gruden
Speaker 3: on the pod like a month ago. He's like, if
Speaker 3: you don't touch him, he might be the best seven
Speaker 3: on seven player in the league right just throwing just
Speaker 3: he's a good thrower of the football. Jalen, I don't
Speaker 3: know if he's not comfortable, it's not natural. He doesn't
Speaker 3: have great velocity on just sitting in the pocket throws,
Speaker 3: which is weird for a guy that does have a
Speaker 3: powerful arm on the loop throw. You know, Russell had
Speaker 3: a better ball in his prime than Jalen, just throwing
Speaker 3: like an outrout or whatever. He just wasn't that comfortable
Speaker 3: threatrowing it over the middle from the pod because he
Speaker 3: couldn't see. Jalen's a little shorter. He's taller than Russell,
Speaker 3: but shorter than average quarterbacks. So maybe it's just not
Speaker 3: as comfortable seeing stuff because he clearly when he moves
Speaker 3: is better outside the tackles making plays. But you can't
Speaker 3: run a consistent offense play in that way. Yeah, it's very,
Speaker 3: very difficult. So now it's going to be another coach
Speaker 3: or a coordinator's fault. Maybe it's just a player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you, so, Sirianni, knowing he's on
Speaker 1: the hot seat, knowing that his sort of demeanor has
Speaker 1: been dubbed juvenile, comes in, shaves his head at one point,
Speaker 1: yelling at fans like it to me, it's just, bro,
Speaker 1: you're the head football coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. Like
Speaker 1: he just feels like he doesn't have a self awareness.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Baker's first couple of years in the league.
Speaker 1: You knew he was talented, but you're like, dude, you're
Speaker 1: starting fires at the podium on Wednesday. Just don't You
Speaker 1: don't have to win and be the snarkiest, funniest guy
Speaker 1: at the podium. Just let other people and not. Baker's matured.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Nick sometimes doesn't get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah to me, I don't know if there's a wager
Speaker 3: you can place with our friends at DraftKings, but I
Speaker 3: think he's a borderline lock to not be the head
Speaker 3: coach for the Eagles in twenty twenty five. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: that's not making a prediction. They're missing the playoffs and
Speaker 3: making the playoffs, Like he will not be the coach
Speaker 3: next year, Like this thing him screaming at the fans.
Speaker 3: Is just in what world? In a game that you
Speaker 3: barely just beat what many consider as one of the
Speaker 3: worst transactions, not in football, in like sports history, with
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson, the quarterback who was pretty bad today again
Speaker 3: and you are struggling to win the game and you're
Speaker 3: screaming at the fans. It'd be one thing if he
Speaker 3: was kicking ass and they're still chanting fire Sirianni, I
Speaker 3: would get it. It's like, bro, let's you know, cooler
Speaker 3: jets here now. I saw Jalen Hurt said after the game.
Speaker 3: Is one thing that the players talk to Nick about
Speaker 3: during the bye week was to get back to his
Speaker 3: crazy waists, get back to his roots of being emotional
Speaker 3: he had been to. I don't know stoic, I guess
Speaker 3: for their taste over the beginning of this season. But
Speaker 3: if that what you're trying to get back to, like,
Speaker 3: what are we doing? I see, under no scenario, this
Speaker 3: team's not win the Super Bowl, So I just don't
Speaker 3: see how serious Sirianni knows what's going on. Like the
Speaker 3: head shave, what did that symbolize to you? A guy
Speaker 3: searching a guy? Maybe he got a bad haircut.
Speaker 1: I remember when Robert Sala came in with the black beard,
Speaker 1: like darkened his beard, and it's just like, Bro, you're
Speaker 1: on camera like twelve minutes on national TV in an
Speaker 1: NFL game every week. It did feel like you were
Speaker 1: trying to make some sort of statement. And I I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we know now that Salah and Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: reported that he was he was affected by the noise.
Speaker 1: I think Sirianni's affected. I think Philadelphia is probably the
Speaker 1: loudest NFL city because talk radio is so powerful in
Speaker 1: that city. In the media, there's multiple newspapers. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a kind of a working class for a big
Speaker 1: sophisticated city. It's it's you know it, it's loud and
Speaker 1: if your Andy Reid could shut it out. But I
Speaker 1: think it affected. I think it affects Sirianni set it today.
Speaker 1: I think and I had a I had a music
Speaker 1: producer text me today that I know off this comment
Speaker 1: I made, he'd liked this comment. I think two things
Speaker 1: you see within five to six games of a new
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback clear red flags and excellent traits. So I
Speaker 1: always use the example of the voice or of American
Speaker 1: has talent or American idol. I don't know much about
Speaker 1: music other than I enjoy it. But I can see
Speaker 1: within three to f four notes, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: literally twelve seconds hack and great, figuring out lounge singer
Speaker 1: to successful lound singer. Good is hard. Justin Fields could
Speaker 1: be good, but good is very hard to decipher because
Speaker 1: the difference between good and great is consistency. You've got
Speaker 1: very few bad games from Mahomes, whereas Russell Wilson now
Speaker 1: is at the point where ooh that's pretty good. Oh
Speaker 1: that's awful. Same with Justin Field. So I think good
Speaker 1: is hard to decipher. I think awful and great are
Speaker 1: pretty easy. You can see a draft pick in the NBA,
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that's like James Wiseman. I'm watching with
Speaker 1: the Warriors. Like second year. I'm like, he's never going
Speaker 1: to be a star in this league. It is an
Speaker 1: ant first year All Star break, You're like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: gonna work. Jason Tatum, Jason Tatum, even rookie year, Jason Tatum,
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that's gonna work. He's gonna get better.
Speaker 1: So I look at Caleb and Jayden Daniels and to
Speaker 1: a lesser degree, Boon Nicks, and I'm like, yep, those
Speaker 1: are franchise guys. Whereas Justin Fields was one step forward,
Speaker 1: two back, Caleb just keeps getting better, clearly takes to
Speaker 1: go Jayden Daniels, He's Lamar Jackson, but better in the
Speaker 1: pocket is a rookie. Bo Nix has a lower ceiling,
Speaker 1: less of an arm, reads the field, more mobile than
Speaker 1: anybody that didn't watch Oregon Duck Games really realizes he's
Speaker 1: actually really mobile. Bark's right back at Sean Payton. Not
Speaker 1: a follower, total leader, confrontational, and I feel very now
Speaker 1: now Bow has the less talent. He's in a division
Speaker 1: with Harbon Andy Reid like it's a tough draw. But
Speaker 1: my take is Caleb, Jayden Bow, these are franchise quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I have no fear saying, yeah, this is what it
Speaker 1: looks like.
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you two quick questions before
Speaker 2: I give you my full response to it. One, I
Speaker 2: guess this would be a small risk. Do you think
Speaker 2: the NB I don't think the NBA comparison is fair
Speaker 2: because in the NBA it is so purely a talent sport,
Speaker 2: like talent can over overcome situation, like John Moran goes
Speaker 2: to Memphis doesn't matter like the franchise. Anthony Edwards goes
Speaker 2: to Minis, It doesn't matter the franchise. Like your talent
Speaker 2: will always win out in the NBA. You might not
Speaker 2: win big if you don't have a good organization, but
Speaker 2: you can be a ten time All Star on a
Speaker 2: bad franchise and make an impact in the NBA. In football,
Speaker 2: I do think situation coaching, offensive line talent around you.
Speaker 2: It is so situational that I find it much easier
Speaker 2: to make a snap judgment in basketball than I do
Speaker 2: in football. And then I guess the quick question i'd
Speaker 2: get back to you is what did you say about
Speaker 2: RG three? Because his rookie year was historic? So that's
Speaker 2: good my injury, sure, but I feel like we could
Speaker 2: have said a lot of the things we said about
Speaker 2: Jaden about RG three.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I said during RG three's rookie year, I
Speaker 1: said Lux the better quarterback, but RG three more fun
Speaker 1: to watch. And voters are suckers for art artistry. NBA
Speaker 1: voters Westbrook, Westbrook, he can't his bad handles and can't shoot.
Speaker 1: Derek Rose couldn't shoot, Spindily ended up getting hurt a lot.
Speaker 1: So I think RG three pleased the eye, but I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was nearly as sustainable. I thought Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck was bigger, stronger. I mean, Jesus, the kid went
Speaker 1: to Stanford, he memorized a playbook. According to Kobe Fleeener,
Speaker 1: who also went to Stanford in two days, like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so, I never bought into.
Speaker 2: The crazy but I mean, but RG three was Rookie
Speaker 2: of the year, right, I didn't buy it. You so
Speaker 2: you didn't buy it, and you buy something Jaden that
Speaker 2: you did not buy with RG three.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think I think ja you know, I said
Speaker 1: with RG three, I think he's talented, but he was thin.
Speaker 1: I thought, I said, Andrew Luck's the better player. So
Speaker 1: Jaden is better in the pocket than RG three. I
Speaker 1: think they're both equally twitchy. But here's was a real
Speaker 1: cell for me on Jayden Daniels. And this almost never happens,
Speaker 1: almost as a rule, when you have a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1: The coaching staff says, hey, be patient, this is a process, right. Literally,
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, a defensive coach, was like, I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything like this. I mean they literally En Camp couldn't.
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's like the kid's magic. Brian Kelly runs through
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at Notre Dame. I think he had six at
Speaker 1: one point in like five years. So part of it
Speaker 1: was I watched a lot of his games. Second, the
Speaker 1: people I trusted, Cliff Kingsbury, Steve Khim, who hired him
Speaker 1: as a friend. He was like, no calling this kid, Cliff,
Speaker 1: can't even like. It's Kyler with more maturity, better in
Speaker 1: the pocket.
Speaker 2: And I like Kyler.
Speaker 1: So I've had good sourcing on Jayden and I totally
Speaker 1: buy it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Jaden, to me is incredibly impressive. I was
Speaker 2: not as sold I certainly was not as sourced on
Speaker 2: him as you were. It was hard for me, with
Speaker 2: how slender he was and how much talent was around
Speaker 2: him to say for sure that it would translate. Like
Speaker 2: I loved Drake May coming out of college. I had
Speaker 2: him Actually of Jaden some of the games I watched,
Speaker 2: I was like, this guy's doing more with less, tough
Speaker 2: as hell, crazy athlete. Youngest brother comes from a family
Speaker 2: of athletes like overachieved his situation, and Jaden Daniels has
Speaker 2: blown me away. I think every piece of hype that
Speaker 2: he's gotten has been totally totally valid. I do think
Speaker 2: there is an element of some of his production is
Speaker 2: based on running the football, and that works obviously. Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson's got a couple of MVPs, but it's not the
Speaker 2: type of thing that ages particularly well, Like we haven't
Speaker 2: seen that quarterback in their thirties. Like it's a depreciating asset.
Speaker 2: At some point, you need to just be great from
Speaker 2: the pocket, and he's been great from the pocket. So
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he can't be that. But if his
Speaker 2: comp is Lamar Jackson and Caleb Williams's comp is Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: if we did a redraft tomorrow, I would still take
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams over Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the skill set is actually more sustainable and
Speaker 2: allows for a higher ceiling.
Speaker 1: Yeah so I so I would too, absolutely, Yeah, But.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a majority opinion anyhoy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think Caleb. I use this word a lot.
Speaker 1: People think it's weird. Caleb's thicker and trunk here. He's
Speaker 1: a big, thick athlete. If you're standing around him, you're
Speaker 1: like ass legs, shoulders, like he's like he's just big.
Speaker 1: Jaden is more spindily. That always worries me. But saying
Speaker 1: I would take Caleb over Jaden is like saying I
Speaker 1: would take vanilla ice cream over chocolate or whatever. Like
Speaker 1: I like him both, and I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's possible people at the beginning, people wanted to make
Speaker 2: this because Caleb had a bad couple of games and
Speaker 2: Shane Waldron had an awful adjustment to Chicago. People were
Speaker 2: immediately running too. It's like people have the memory of
Speaker 2: one day, one minute, like it has to be c J. Stroud,
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. I'm like, are you guys crazy? It Like
Speaker 2: that is so stupid, Like it's very possible that this
Speaker 2: draft ends up being by the way, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger,
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, how about this, all three awesome quarterbacks, all
Speaker 2: three franchises and fan bases are thrilled with their.
Speaker 1: Guy, Danny. You don't have to go back that far.
Speaker 1: Herbert Burrow hurt Tua, right, that was just like four
Speaker 1: or five years ago. We had an incredible draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think that that is certainly what
Speaker 2: is in play here, because bo Nix and Jaden have
Speaker 2: far exceeded what my expectations were for them coming into
Speaker 2: the draft. And I'll be honest, it was one game
Speaker 2: I thought Drake May was gonna get killed last Sunday,
Speaker 2: with six offensive line combinations in six games, no offensive
Speaker 2: weapons to speak of, defensive head coach, they were sitting
Speaker 2: in for a reason that it felt like going up
Speaker 2: against Houston's pass rush, which led I mean the Patriots
Speaker 2: led the league in pressures allowed and the Texans led
Speaker 2: the league in pressure percentage generated. I was like, this
Speaker 2: is a terrible matchup. Why are they doing this? And
Speaker 2: he acquitted himself beautifully. I thought in the game one
Speaker 2: of the stories of the season to me is how
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, rookie quarterbacks are playing so well. But also,
Speaker 2: if you just look at completion percentage in the NFL
Speaker 2: right now, fifteenth in the NFL, fifteenth is Will Levis,
Speaker 2: who's completing sixty six percent of his passage. It's not
Speaker 2: that long ago that that was top three in the NFL,
Speaker 2: or even something that would lead the league. So I
Speaker 2: think what has happened And this is a much better
Speaker 2: podcast topic than TV show topic. I think that analytics
Speaker 2: and the smart people in football have figured out that
Speaker 2: conservative passing is so valuable. Is an extension of the
Speaker 2: run game, and young quarterbacks can do it, and young
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are cheap quarterbacks, and we know that's where the
Speaker 2: market in efficiency is. So it's never been easier to
Speaker 2: be successful as a young quarterback because the passing game
Speaker 2: is now more left and right than vertical. And in
Speaker 2: baseball and basketball, the analytics revolution has rewarded the high
Speaker 2: variance plays. Go for a home run, shoot a three pointer.
Speaker 2: So analytics in those sports has actually injected like the
Speaker 2: more difficult skill set, whereas analytics in football, don't take risks,
Speaker 2: don't throw the ball down the field, don't force it,
Speaker 2: just matriculate. We'll go forward on fourth down three yards,
Speaker 2: four yards, five yards is fine, and just get the
Speaker 2: ball out quick, don't take hits, execute the easy pass.
Speaker 2: And so you're seeing, I mean, Jaden Daniels is completing
Speaker 2: seventy five percent of his passes. Yeah, that is he
Speaker 2: deserves credit, and he does have some big plays to him,
Speaker 2: so he's not just thinking and dunking. But that number
Speaker 2: makes no sense. Seven years ago, we would have been like,
Speaker 2: that's not going to happen. And so I just I
Speaker 2: think that coaches have gotten so much smarter at cultivating
Speaker 2: an offense where young guys can have a high floor early,
Speaker 2: then it makes it more difficult for me to evaluate
Speaker 2: their ceiling because I think the floor has been raised
Speaker 2: so significantly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I have said about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and the Lakers, very insular franchises with a lot of
Speaker 1: buses and friends of buses, and the Lakers and a
Speaker 1: lot of Joneses and friends of Jones' inside the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Is that as the league's gotten sharper, shrewder and more analytical,
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Cowboys have gotten more of the
Speaker 1: corner grocery store in a supermarket world. Is that football's
Speaker 1: gotten so smart And you look at the Cowboys right now,
Speaker 1: and they're over paying for a quarterback that's a B
Speaker 1: plus quarterback Like that is the number one mistake in
Speaker 1: the league. Pay for Mahomes or a rookie quarterback. Those
Speaker 1: are the only two. You can have Garoppolo and Goff
Speaker 1: early in their career and get to a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You can have Garoppolo and get to a super Bowl
Speaker 1: before you pay them big.
Speaker 2: You can't if you get McVeigh, if you get Shanahan,
Speaker 2: Yes you get if you get one of those guys.
Speaker 2: And obviously those guys don't count against your salary cap,
Speaker 2: so do anything you can to hire one of those guys.
Speaker 1: So people, it's remarkable to me that the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the market struggles with this. I think Dallas fans have
Speaker 1: finally figured it out. The Athletic did a poll and
Speaker 1: like seventy five percent of Cowboy fans are like, we
Speaker 1: have no chance to win the super Bowl for five years.
Speaker 1: So they get it. Cowboy fans get it. But these
Speaker 1: people that think it's an anti deck conversation, No, it's
Speaker 1: an anti bank paying a B plus quarterback a plus money.
Speaker 1: It is so odd. It's like the most obvious analytics
Speaker 1: some we can argue about in baseball. Some are clear
Speaker 1: that the ground ball is a death penalty, a strikeout's not.
Speaker 1: That's pretty obvious if you don't follow too much analytics
Speaker 1: in football, just don't pay a good quarterback great money
Speaker 1: if you don't know anything else. That's clear, and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys you're doing it.
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's I get why teams do it, even
Speaker 2: saying that, because in Dallas's situation, let's say they decided
Speaker 2: not to pay Dak and just let him leave for nothing.
Speaker 2: That's also bad team building, like, he finished second in
Speaker 2: the league in MVP last year. He's won twelve games
Speaker 2: three years in a row. They led the league in
Speaker 2: scoring last year. I hate when teams just let stars
Speaker 2: walk for nothing. You have to get something for your asset,
Speaker 2: even if it's sixty cents on the dollar. You have
Speaker 2: to get something. And so Dallas was going to be
Speaker 2: too good to draft Drake may or to draft Bo Knicks,
Speaker 2: or to draft Jada Daniels, And so then they would
Speaker 2: be more they maybe they wouldn't be paying big money
Speaker 2: to go get a good quarterback, but they would be
Speaker 2: trading multiple first round picks to move up and get
Speaker 2: a good quarterback. And do you trust that Jerry Jones
Speaker 2: is going to hire the right coach to develop the
Speaker 2: young quarterback? Because yeah, if you could say, I'd rather
Speaker 2: have Jaden Daniels at his money than Dak Prescott at
Speaker 2: his like of course, obviously, but Atlanta was like, we
Speaker 2: can't have another year of Desmond Ritter, Like, we will
Speaker 2: give Kirk Cousins one hundred and eighty million dollars at
Speaker 2: thirty five coming off of an achilles and draft Michael
Speaker 2: Pennix so that we never have to go through a
Speaker 2: season like that again, like there aren't thirty two good
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the world that can do this job, and
Speaker 2: there's thirty two teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think something I touched on last week
Speaker 1: is quarterbacks come in more ready to play, but owners
Speaker 1: are more ready to fire them. So you've got this
Speaker 1: convergence of yeah, wealthier, wealthier owners, more impulsive, quarterbacks, more talented,
Speaker 1: we're not giving you two full years. I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that Daniel Jones got an extension and was basically
Speaker 1: a C minus quarterback, it's just that doesn't that doesn't
Speaker 1: happen anymore.
Speaker 2: You know that that that was a terrible one. That
Speaker 2: that one made made no sense. And the thing about
Speaker 2: these rookies, like I I kept saying when I was
Speaker 2: still doing radio in Chicago, I was like, we need
Speaker 2: to hold Caleb Williams to a really high standard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And people were like, why do you keep saying CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud that's an outlier? No, it was. The outlier for
Speaker 2: Stroud was that he didn't throw interceptions. He only had
Speaker 2: five interceptions, but Dak had four, like we have as
Speaker 2: a rookie. We have seen it before. The guy had
Speaker 2: twenty three touchdowns, he had a little over four thousand yards.
Speaker 2: It was a very, very, very impressive season because no
Speaker 2: one saw it coming. Houston was terrible. He turned him around.
Speaker 2: He won a playoff game, but I mean he beat
Speaker 2: the Browns. He beat Joe Flacco in a playoff game.
Speaker 2: Like and again this is not to Naxie j Stroud,
Speaker 2: but my point is it is easy easier to be
Speaker 2: good as a rookie because back in the day, you'd
Speaker 2: be playing in like the Big twelve in a spread offense,
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, come into the NFL and be
Speaker 2: under center and take seven step drops and throw post routes.
Speaker 2: And now they're like, everything's out of the shotgun. You
Speaker 2: could have a wristband, we're going to call the play
Speaker 2: in on a number, and we're going to give you
Speaker 2: a run pass option just like you had in college.
Speaker 2: So it's just so much easier to be good early
Speaker 2: that I hope that we get smarter when Shador Sanders
Speaker 2: or whoever comes into the NFL next year, and then
Speaker 2: everyone's like, pump the brakes on expectations, no man, like,
Speaker 2: build your organization from coaches, from investment in the offensive line,
Speaker 2: wide receivers, build your organization to take advantage of the
Speaker 2: first four years of these guys when they're crazy cheap,
Speaker 2: because that's the easiest time it should ever be for
Speaker 2: you to win a Super Bowl if you have a
Speaker 2: great quarterback. And I do think that Washington and Chicago,
Speaker 2: at least, I'll say it on those guys. You're farther
Speaker 2: ahead on bow next than I am. But those teams
Speaker 2: should be making hyper aggressive moves the next three years
Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl, because that's what you can
Speaker 2: do if you've got a quarterback who's that good, who's
Speaker 2: that cheap.
Speaker 1: There are certain things that the media does. They don't
Speaker 1: irritate me, but they're so predictable. One of them is
Speaker 1: early in the season when there are injuries. People are like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen this many NFL injuries. Yes,
Speaker 1: you have twelve months earlier, and in the end, almost
Speaker 1: without exception, you get to a Super Bowl and each
Speaker 1: team is missing like one starter, and teams are overwhelmingly healthy.
Speaker 1: Players get healthier. Players are they hit less in practice,
Speaker 1: they hit less in games. Doctors are better, fitness, fitness
Speaker 1: is better. They're fine. So here's the other one that
Speaker 1: just cracks me up. After a great weekend in college football. Man,
Speaker 1: college football is so much better than the NFL. No,
Speaker 1: they're both great, and they're different. The NFL is a
Speaker 1: higher level of coaching and playing. You get guaranteed, like
Speaker 1: five to seven great games a weekend, even though there's
Speaker 1: only thirty two teams. In college football, you have one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty teams, and you may get four great
Speaker 1: games and a great weekend. I mean, like last weekend
Speaker 1: was great, and we all knew it was great. But
Speaker 1: you'll have weekends going into a college football weekend where
Speaker 1: like there's like one game between ranked teams and you
Speaker 1: can get a nice Kansas State TCU game. But I
Speaker 1: went out with my wife, I'm not watching it. So
Speaker 1: here's how I look at the NFL in college The
Speaker 1: NFL is a successful brother in the family. He always
Speaker 1: has a nice car, he's got a nice fund with
Speaker 1: his broker. A little boring at times and predictable, but
Speaker 1: you kind of know what you get. College football is
Speaker 1: the brother and the family that twice a year you
Speaker 1: have a big part of You invite him over and
Speaker 1: he'll take all his clothes off, go naked, jump into
Speaker 1: a pool, kind of drunk. People laugh, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of inappropriate. You're not happy with him, but you do
Speaker 1: wake up the next morning and say, you know, he
Speaker 1: really gets the most out of life we have. We
Speaker 1: have a nicer our kids go to better schools, we
Speaker 1: have a nicer life. But you know, Tim, he really
Speaker 1: has a good time in life. And that's how I
Speaker 1: feel College football is at its best. It's wild, fans
Speaker 1: are pouring on the field. The officiating can be abjectly horrid.
Speaker 1: These are twenty.
Speaker 2: Soccer players who may or may not know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Special teams are a s show. Yeah, but like Tim
Speaker 1: who got naked and jumped into a pool, there is
Speaker 1: something memorable and ecstatic about it. And I thought Oregon
Speaker 1: Oregon Ohio State was that it's like Jesus. But my
Speaker 1: point being, if I circle back, is they're both great.
Speaker 1: They're much more unique. Ones corporate. One's on a campus,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the beauty of them.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny, though, I mean, some of your finest work, Colin,
Speaker 2: I what do you what are your finest analogies? We
Speaker 2: got to work on Tim's name. I feel like Tim's
Speaker 2: name should be like like Madison or like Bucky or
Speaker 2: you've seen like like a college. Yeah, yeah, exactly, so
Speaker 2: we get we gotta work on Tim's name. But otherwise
Speaker 2: nine point eight out of ten on the column analogy scale.
Speaker 2: And I was just judging myself because I like the
Speaker 2: NFL so much more than college. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think boring, corporate, suburban guy with like the healthy
Speaker 2: Stockport folks. Yeah, I know, dude, I'm washed up, like
Speaker 2: I got a wife and two kids, and I just
Speaker 2: love like a sushi dinner and a bottle of red
Speaker 2: and a nice early bedtime.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: It's it's true college at its best. It's just you're like,
Speaker 2: this is crazy. I don't understand what's happening here. This
Speaker 2: is random. A team that's a thirty point underdog can
Speaker 2: win a game, like you know what the NFL it's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: the biggest spread on the board is six and a half,
Speaker 2: like right, like it's it's parody by design. There's a
Speaker 2: salary cap, there's a salary floor. Free agents are just
Speaker 2: as likely to choose Dallas as they are Buffalo in
Speaker 2: Green Bay because they just follow the money. Like it's
Speaker 2: I think the NFL is the perfect viewing product. I
Speaker 2: think it's perfect. Every game matters. Every team before the
Speaker 2: season doesn't think they can win a Super Bowl, but
Speaker 2: like worst a first tap in every single year, rookie
Speaker 2: quarterbacks can change a franchise on a dime. Like basically
Speaker 2: every franchise has some reason to believe at least within
Speaker 2: three years. Right, Like Jacksonville three years ago absolutely thought
Speaker 2: that it was on the board that they had a
Speaker 2: future Hall of Fame quarterback. So I think the NFL
Speaker 2: is a perfect viewing product, and college is just a
Speaker 2: little tougher for me to like follow and be fully
Speaker 2: invested in weekend in week out. But college at its
Speaker 2: best is just awesome. And it's because it means like
Speaker 2: an irrational amount to the people in the building.
Speaker 1: Not that.
Speaker 2: Don't fight and pro fans aren't passionate, they obviously are,
Speaker 2: but it's just like the tribalism of like this is
Speaker 2: the most important thing in the entire state of Alabama. Right,
Speaker 2: I'm a fifth generation Badger, Like there's just something about
Speaker 2: like the college football pageantry that I'll never be able
Speaker 2: to quit.
Speaker 1: All Right, I predicted last week the league would have
Speaker 1: a separation. Best quarterbacks would win Week six Going forward,
Speaker 1: in most cases, and the best quarterbacks last week went
Speaker 1: fourteen and er I went three and one on my picks.
Speaker 1: I had the Jets with the points, but the Bills winning.
Speaker 1: I just needed the Jets to make an occasional field goal.
Speaker 1: Is that too much to ask? The Action Network CEO
Speaker 1: Chad Millman, my friend. All odds provided by DraftKings.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always feel like defensive players get hurt statistically more
Speaker 1: often than offfensive players. That's where more the violence is.
Speaker 1: Defenses get weaker over time. Quarterbacks pull away from the league,
Speaker 1: and once again, I think this is the second strongest
Speaker 1: week I think I've seen so far this year, so
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. I think there's clear distinction in
Speaker 1: some of these games, and as you know, I don't
Speaker 1: have to like a team to like them for a week.
Speaker 1: I don't like the Jaguars, but I think the staff
Speaker 1: is fighting for its life. It's also number five. You
Speaker 1: know I'm into number five. I'm sorry, I know sevens.
Speaker 1: The lucky number five is mine. A team that regularly
Speaker 1: plays in London, a New England team that's limited and
Speaker 1: actually Trevor Lawrence has not played poorly the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. If it's five, I take the favorite. Last
Speaker 1: week four and five the Packers was my favorite bet.
Speaker 1: The game was over eight minutes in Probably not sharp,
Speaker 1: but I love it. Sharper square.
Speaker 5: I feel like you're playing some kind of game of
Speaker 5: numerology and astrology and like I don't like I don't
Speaker 5: like bad quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: I like good quarterbacks. I like the number five.
Speaker 5: I don't sign don't like the number seven when the
Speaker 5: zodiac sign says mercury. Because in retrograde, I'm definitely going
Speaker 5: with the team from Jacksonville.
Speaker 4: If they're playing in London.
Speaker 5: Yes, this actually is the sharp side, and it's because
Speaker 5: some of what you said, but it's also the Jags
Speaker 5: have been in London favorite historically. Yeah, thirty five and
Speaker 5: ten in London. I mean the just winning outright, thirty
Speaker 5: five and ten in London. Some like thirty and fifteen
Speaker 5: against the spread. It's like it's the right side. It's
Speaker 5: the nominally better team in a more desperate situation. So yes,
Speaker 5: it's I mean most wise, guys are like, I'm not
Speaker 5: really planning I even watching this game.
Speaker 4: I'm going to sleep in. But if they're going to bet,
Speaker 4: they're going to beat the Jaguars.
Speaker 5: You just sent it in the Jets, and it made
Speaker 5: me think of a funny story because that game was
Speaker 5: so disgusting.
Speaker 4: The night before the game, if you were.
Speaker 5: Betting the Giants at plus three and a half, was
Speaker 5: also terrible because they were winning. They had won that
Speaker 5: game like they were the better team. They had Stemy
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, they missed field goals. At the end of
Speaker 5: the game. It was clear they were going to lose
Speaker 5: because something funky was going to happen. The Bengals weren't
Speaker 5: just going to lay down at ten to seven. They
Speaker 5: were going to do something that sort of recapped the Giants.
Speaker 5: I'm watching this game and I feel like you'll appreciate this.
Speaker 5: It's eleven o'clock at night. I'm watching the game in bed.
Speaker 5: My wife is sent me, sleeping next to me, and
Speaker 5: she starts she says something to me, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I can't understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4: What are you saying?
Speaker 5: And she starts talking to me about something that has
Speaker 5: nothing to do with anything, that is a total non
Speaker 5: sequit or to the day, the weekend, everything, and I go,
Speaker 5: I can we just not talk about this right now?
Speaker 5: Like we don't need to have this conversation in this
Speaker 5: second goes, that's fine.
Speaker 4: I understand. My feeling right now is you're probably going
Speaker 4: to lose this.
Speaker 5: Game and you're going to wake up in the morning
Speaker 5: and people are on Twitter. I'm just going to tell
Speaker 5: you you're stupid. And then she rolled over and she
Speaker 5: went back to bed.
Speaker 1: That's what they do, by the way.
Speaker 5: She was right, Yeah, I felt like you would appreciate
Speaker 5: every single element to that.
Speaker 1: So that was one of my Blazing five picks. And
Speaker 1: for the first or second time in my career, I
Speaker 1: pulled it off the Blazing five. When Malik Neighbors was
Speaker 1: not available, I pulled it out. I almost inserted the Bears.
Speaker 1: My staff knew I loved that game. I did, and
Speaker 1: so I finished three and one. Here's my favorite pick
Speaker 1: of the week, and it again you. I have a rule.
Speaker 1: When a good team plays a perfect game and it's
Speaker 1: the game of the week and it's flawless pro college,
Speaker 1: you don't duplicate that. We've seen that multiple times this year.
Speaker 1: Minnesota off of by Detroit off the perfect football game.
Speaker 1: No thank you. I'll lay the points Vikings now minus
Speaker 1: one and a half sharper square.
Speaker 5: So it's square what's really interesting here is and you
Speaker 5: know me and me and my co host Salmon Hunter
Speaker 5: talked about this on the Favorites. He's a professional better
Speaker 5: and a lot of times what professional betters do, they
Speaker 5: will manipulate the market. So this game was at Minnesota
Speaker 5: minus one, minus one and a half or during the
Speaker 5: week it went up to two, it went up to
Speaker 5: two and a half, and then as soon as it
Speaker 5: got to two and a half, the professional betters started
Speaker 5: betting Detroit again. It went back down to two, it
Speaker 5: went back down to one and a half. So there's
Speaker 5: a philosophy. There's a theory right now that the professional
Speaker 5: betters early in the week were betting small amounts of
Speaker 5: money to bet this game up a little bit so
Speaker 5: they could come in later in the week when the
Speaker 5: books take bigger dollar amounts and bet the Detroit Lions
Speaker 5: much much heavier.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: The Lions, to me are the right side. I think
Speaker 4: there's a.
Speaker 5: Difference between teams that are playing perfect games and teams
Speaker 5: that are are fundamentally as close to perfect as you
Speaker 5: can get. And I like to bet looking inside out.
Speaker 5: I like to bet offensive line first, and the offensive
Speaker 5: line for the Detroit Lions is just dominant they are,
Speaker 5: and I think the past few weeks, and we talked
Speaker 5: about this last week with the Lions and the Cowboys,
Speaker 5: they have figured out how to play physical, violent football.
Speaker 5: They've gotten out of the way of sort of trying
Speaker 5: to figure out if Jared Goff going to wins the game. No,
Speaker 5: the offensive line is going to wins the game. Running
Speaker 5: the ball is going to win us the game. Jared
Speaker 5: Goff will then perform off of those situations that we
Speaker 5: have set up for him. So offensively, I think this
Speaker 5: is a much better team, and I do think Jared
Speaker 5: Goff and Ben Johnson will know how to scheme against
Speaker 5: Brian Flores, whose defense has been great, and the offensive
Speaker 5: line will protect against the pass rush that Flores has
Speaker 5: been great at generating. The worst unit on this field
Speaker 5: is going to be the Vikings offense. So if there
Speaker 5: is any diminished performance from the Lions because of Aden Hutchinson,
Speaker 5: I do think it's somewhat mitigated by the fact they're
Speaker 5: not playing a lights out offense and we're all looking
Speaker 5: to sell the Vikings. We're trying to figure it out, right,
Speaker 5: when are we going to sell the Vikings? A lot
Speaker 5: of wise guys think this is the week.
Speaker 1: Okay. I on Monday on the Herd on FS one
Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio, I said I'm taking the Rams at five.
Speaker 1: The line will move up dramatically. It's the rare mistake
Speaker 1: by Vegas McVeigh Stafford off a buy. They're getting healthier.
Speaker 1: The Raiders made a true trade for getting rid of
Speaker 1: Devonte Adams, so it makes it even tastier. But I
Speaker 1: think Devonte Adams leaving sends a real message. The Max
Speaker 1: Crosby rumors don't help. They're saying he won't be traded.
Speaker 1: But it's not a great locker room right now. And
Speaker 1: the Raiders are not a team that needs to win
Speaker 1: because they're not going to. It's a distracted team with
Speaker 1: bad mojo. The Rams now need to go on a street.
Speaker 1: They're healthier, better, coach better. In fact, it's the biggest
Speaker 1: coach quarterback mismatch on the board this week. I have
Speaker 1: it at minus five sharper square.
Speaker 5: If you have it at five, that is incredible and
Speaker 5: it's sharp, and you should hold on to that like
Speaker 5: it's a cugly teddy bear, because that line does not
Speaker 5: exist like it's at six and a half in most places.
Speaker 5: So if you can get a five, or if you
Speaker 5: have a five, if you can book a five, take
Speaker 5: the five.
Speaker 4: At six and a half.
Speaker 5: It's not a number that I would want to really
Speaker 5: lean into for the Rams. The truth is if at
Speaker 5: six and a half, I might even lean Raiders. I
Speaker 5: agree with you about Stafford and McVeigh. Nobody really trusts
Speaker 5: Aidan O'Connell. But the line bumped up for two reasons.
Speaker 5: One expectation that Cooper Cup might come back. They did
Speaker 5: think he could come back in week seven, and because
Speaker 5: the Raiders got blown out by the Steelers. But if
Speaker 5: you look at that box score, that game was close.
Speaker 5: It was seven to six at the end of the
Speaker 5: first half. It was twelve seven when and then three
Speaker 5: consecutive series fluky things happened to give the Steelers a
Speaker 5: huge lead. And even then the Raiders had opportunities to
Speaker 5: come back, and they were called back for penalties. They
Speaker 5: fumbled on the one yard line after they had scored
Speaker 5: a touchdown that was called back. So the game was
Speaker 5: closer than the score of peer. So I think six
Speaker 5: and a half is too much. Seattle plus a field
Speaker 5: goal and Atlanta is interesting. The Seahawks are getting healthy.
Speaker 5: I know you have a luck rating, and the Saints
Speaker 5: were called unlucky. I do think Atlanta's had a few
Speaker 5: breaks go their way and they're a tad overvalued. I
Speaker 5: think they win their division, but I actually think even
Speaker 5: the game against Tampa Bay that they won in overtime,
Speaker 5: I kind of felt most of the game Tampa was
Speaker 5: better and has a higher ceiling. I kind of like
Speaker 5: Seattle in the spot. They've been a funky mess defensively
Speaker 5: and you think they're not very good. Now they're finally
Speaker 5: getting their best defenders back and Gino Smith.
Speaker 1: Atlanta has no pass rush. They have really good receivers.
Speaker 1: I like Seattle in the points Sharper square.
Speaker 5: Ish at two and a half, the wise guys are
Speaker 5: playing the Falcons. At three, they might play Seattle, they
Speaker 5: won't play Atlanta. They were kind of hoping it would
Speaker 5: get to three and a half so they could play
Speaker 5: Atlanta if they like Seattle. It's because of everything you
Speaker 5: just said to getting a little bit healthier. Atlanta can't
Speaker 5: generate a pass rush. The Falcons could just as easily
Speaker 5: be zero to six right now. Right and we talked
Speaker 5: about this last week. The games they have won. Three
Speaker 5: games that they won, they had a five percent chance
Speaker 5: to win those games, sometimes with less than thirty seconds left,
Speaker 5: and they still won those games. So there has been
Speaker 5: a lot of sort of luck involved in their season
Speaker 5: so far.
Speaker 4: So that is due. They are due for aggression there.
Speaker 5: Even last week against the Panthers, I and tail Andy
Speaker 5: Dalton threw that pick yes, right into his territory and
Speaker 5: then the Falcons went on an e four yard drive.
Speaker 5: The Panthers were running all over them, and they had
Speaker 5: a chance to be very close in that game, if
Speaker 5: not win it out right. So it's a it's a
Speaker 5: this is a number play entirely. Two and a half
Speaker 5: Atlanta three or more Seattle.
Speaker 1: Okay, one of my favorite bets of the week, and
Speaker 1: it was before Devonte Adams. I'll take the Jets one
Speaker 1: as one and a half. The Steelers are a mess.
Speaker 1: They don't even know who their quarterback is. I think
Speaker 1: the Jets are an excellent two and four team if
Speaker 1: they could kick field goals. Think about this, If it
Speaker 1: wasn't for Taylor rap making two remarkable plays at safety
Speaker 1: jarring the ball loose, and if it wasn't for Tarron
Speaker 1: Johnson making honestly and Ed Reid level interception like one
Speaker 1: of the great plays of the year. Jets win that game.
Speaker 1: Aaron played well, they ran the ball. They had seventy
Speaker 1: two percent motion twenty five percent with NTA Hacket the
Speaker 1: week before. I think the Jets are a really really
Speaker 1: undervalued two four team. Their high profile the game is
Speaker 1: stand alone. You think they're no good. They really should
Speaker 1: have beaten the Bills. Sharper square totally sharp. They like
Speaker 1: it for everything you just said. The reason they really
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 5: Is because the indications are Russell Wilson will be the
Speaker 5: starting quarterback. And you can't find anybody who really understands
Speaker 5: the logic in that call, unless it's just Mike Tomlin
Speaker 5: living up to a promise that he gave to Russell
Speaker 5: Wilson that he would be a starting quarterback. He really
Speaker 5: shouldn't be. And now you're getting Russell Wilson at a
Speaker 5: time where they've already lost their right guard, James Daniels,
Speaker 5: who was graded as the best guard in the NFL
Speaker 5: before his achilles was injured, and then last week they
Speaker 5: lost Zach Fraser, who was greater as the fourth best
Speaker 5: center according to Pro Football Focus in the NFL, which
Speaker 5: is one of the reasons why their running game had
Speaker 5: been so powerful and they could get away with justin
Speaker 5: fields not being very good. So now you're getting rid
Speaker 5: of who are the best offensive linemen in the NFL.
Speaker 5: That is the strength of your team, and you're putting
Speaker 5: in a quarterback who is not nearly as mobile, yet
Speaker 5: he's going to have more pressure because the strength of
Speaker 5: the Jets defense is the interior of their defensive line.
Speaker 5: So forget about Aaron Rodgers, forget about DeVante Adams. The
Speaker 5: reason why professional betters are leaning the Jets is because
Speaker 5: of those interior factors. And again, those are the things
Speaker 5: that don't get as discussed in sort of the larger platforms,
Speaker 5: but that's what the betters are looking at. It's what's
Speaker 5: happening at the center of the Steelers line and who
Speaker 5: the quarterback is going to be much more than Devanta Adams.
Speaker 5: And you've seen this number go up even though the
Speaker 5: majority of the bets have actually come in on the Steelers,
Speaker 5: but the money the professionals have come in on the Jets.
Speaker 1: So I never bet against Lamar Jackson in the NFC,
Speaker 1: but at three and a half points, I do like
Speaker 1: Tampa at home. I think Tampa may be the most
Speaker 1: underrated team in the league. I mean Baker Mayfield. He'll
Speaker 1: give you a little wiggle. Fourteen of his fifteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: from the pocket. He and Chris Godwin are humming. They
Speaker 1: have a three pronged run game, Tucker, Bucky, Irving White,
Speaker 1: like three legitimate running backs. And that is a team
Speaker 1: that even in games they've lost, you look up and think, oh,
Speaker 1: this this is probably the better team. If I get
Speaker 1: the hook, I'm taking Tampa here. Also, Ravens have been
Speaker 1: back to back very emotional games. I think you know
Speaker 1: they always beat the NFC, but sharper square, I'd go
Speaker 1: I'd go the hook in Tampa.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent sharp. And this was this line opened
Speaker 5: at four and a half. What's really interesting is you
Speaker 5: talked about sort of the performance of the public last
Speaker 5: week by saying betting on the better quarterback. Right, last
Speaker 5: week the public went ten three and one. The public
Speaker 5: in the five weeks prior had had the worst start
Speaker 5: of the season it it ever had. And just for clarity,
Speaker 5: when I talk about the public, I mean amateur betters
Speaker 5: who tend to bet favorites and tend to bet the
Speaker 5: favorites to cover. Right, So you're talking about teams like
Speaker 5: the Ravens or the Chiefs or you know, in this case,
Speaker 5: last week, the Lions. Normally the public does not win.
Speaker 5: So the public is all over the Ravens this week.
Speaker 5: And when that happens, bookmakers, when the public really cashes in,
Speaker 5: bookmakers know amateur betters are fat and happy. They're going
Speaker 5: to take the money they won the week before. They
Speaker 5: are going to go to the sports book. They are
Speaker 5: going to bet the favorites again because hey, I just
Speaker 5: want how hard can this be? I just won betting
Speaker 5: the Ravens to win by a touchdown against the Commanders,
Speaker 5: and they did it. So now they're going to come
Speaker 5: back and you can see, like the Bucks game, it
Speaker 5: opened at four and a half, it immediately got that
Speaker 5: down to three and a half. That's because the wise
Speaker 5: guys came in on the Bucks and they still like
Speaker 5: the Bucks. Baker's the key here. What Baker can do
Speaker 5: thrown across the middle to Godwin and Mike Evans hopefully,
Speaker 5: because he did have a little bit of a soft
Speaker 5: tissue injury and so there is some concern he might
Speaker 5: not play, but assuming he will, what Baker can do
Speaker 5: across the field in middle of the field against a
Speaker 5: coverage unit in the Ravens that is bottom third in
Speaker 5: the league, and a pass defense that is giving up
Speaker 5: the second most passing yards per game in the NFL.
Speaker 5: The only team worse is the Jaguars. This is a
Speaker 5: recipe for Baker to keep this game close. Or Colin,
Speaker 5: it's a recipe for Baker to break our hurt with
Speaker 5: an interception when the team is down by ten and
Speaker 5: we need him to score a touchdown to cover the
Speaker 5: back door.
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Speaker 1: your I feel mildly interested, but I want your conviction
Speaker 1: and your insight. The last the only time the Texans
Speaker 1: have really played awful this year was when they traveled
Speaker 1: north and face Minnesota and it was a lot of
Speaker 1: Brian Flores and CJ. Stroud acknowledging I don't even know
Speaker 1: what I saw. I like Green Bay. I've never loved
Speaker 1: their defense. Texans getting three. I've got Joe Mixon back
Speaker 1: a run component. I want your opinion on this. It's
Speaker 1: telling me to bet Texans, but I think Jordan Love
Speaker 1: is such a special player. But Demiko Ryans could do
Speaker 1: a Brian Flores to Jordan Love like Flores did to
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud. Tell me that Texans is the right side.
Speaker 4: It's not. This is one of those number plays.
Speaker 5: There's plenty of places where you can get the Packers
Speaker 5: at minus two and a half, and the wise guys
Speaker 5: are betting the Packers at two and a half. And
Speaker 5: what really tells you the wise guys are betting the
Speaker 5: Packers at two and a half is the way the
Speaker 5: money is split.
Speaker 4: Again, public is all over the Texas.
Speaker 5: You can see that the money is coming in on
Speaker 5: the Packers, and that's what's fascinating here.
Speaker 4: So it's a really hard game.
Speaker 5: There has been a huge debate in the professional betting
Speaker 5: community about which is the right side. But if you're
Speaker 5: getting the Packers at two and a half, people want
Speaker 5: to make that bet.
Speaker 4: The professionals want to make that bet.
Speaker 1: What's the game I'm missing? It's usually egregiously uncomfortable to watch.
Speaker 1: It's a corner of a corner TV game. What is it?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm a little surprised we didn't talk about the
Speaker 5: Chiefs and the Niners at all.
Speaker 1: I will not bet against Andy reid Off of Bye.
Speaker 1: My heart tells me the Niners are eventually going to
Speaker 1: win one of these games. Brock Purty is actually today
Speaker 1: playing better than Mahomes. So my gut is the Niners
Speaker 1: are the side. But betting against Andy Reid off a
Speaker 1: bye is like these days betting against Otaani with men
Speaker 1: on base. I'm not interested.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not only that, betting against Patrick Mahomes as an underdog.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like ten and three or something.
Speaker 4: It's it's ridiculous. So I'm glad.
Speaker 5: I'm glad because the answer would be there is no answer,
Speaker 5: and it's what you just said. It's a heart and
Speaker 5: a head game. In your head, it's like the Super
Speaker 5: Bowl last year. In your head, the Niners have the
Speaker 5: better roster. The Niners should win this game outright, But
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes some like you make your own luck, right,
Speaker 5: even this year, they've been lucky in so many spots,
Speaker 5: and you have to say to yourself, of course this
Speaker 5: is going to end. It can't continue to be this way.
Speaker 5: But it's Patrick Mahomes who finds a way to get
Speaker 5: out of the pocket, find Travis Kelcey in his zone.
Speaker 5: When Travis Kelcey hasn't caught two passes the entire game.
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, the last drive they need a
Speaker 5: field goal. They're driving down the field, they get the
Speaker 5: field goal. Quirky things happen, so it's a really hard game,
Speaker 5: Like people don't want to really invest in this game.
Speaker 5: I mean, I almost like I'm sick to my stomach
Speaker 5: telling you this. But the Wise guys are all over
Speaker 5: the Browns now plums. Yeah, plus five and a half
Speaker 5: against the Bengals and oh, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: Oh Crows. I mean they just traded to MARII Cooper.
Speaker 5: Well, look, so what happened was this line was at
Speaker 5: five and a half, and the Wise guys were already
Speaker 5: trending towards the brown.
Speaker 1: Now this is at Cleveland getting five and a half
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati and burrough.
Speaker 5: Yes, and so when Mark Cooper was traded Tuesday afternoon,
Speaker 5: this line immediately shot up to six and a half.
Speaker 5: Do you know who's not worth a point against the
Speaker 5: points bread? Amari Cooper. Do you know who else isn't
Speaker 5: worth a point against the point spread? Aiden Hutchinson. There
Speaker 5: is nobody in the NFL who is worth a point
Speaker 5: against this point spread unless it's a quarterback. Anyone else
Speaker 5: is a half a point. That's it, Amari Cooper. The
Speaker 5: Browns should get points back for trading Amari Cooper. That's
Speaker 5: how the Wise guys look at this. So they bought
Speaker 5: the Browns at six and a half. They bought the
Speaker 5: Browns again at six it's back down to five and
Speaker 5: a half. There's a lot of stuff that they like
Speaker 5: about betting the Browns. The Browns have not had an
Speaker 5: offensive line that was healthy this entire year. This weekend,
Speaker 5: they should be getting Jack Conklin back. That's huge for
Speaker 5: their offensive line. Nick Chubb should be back. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying Nick Chubb makes them a much more superior team,
Speaker 5: but it does give them an opportunity to start playing
Speaker 5: a little bit more, like Kevin Stefanski wants to play
Speaker 5: these games and take the ball out of Shaun Watson's hands.
Speaker 5: At the very least, maybe Deshaun Watson won't be staring
Speaker 5: at the pass rush because he won't be so afraid
Speaker 5: because Jack Conklin is playing again. So I do like
Speaker 5: that that is happening. There's some good health things on
Speaker 5: the offense side of the ball, and their defense is
Speaker 5: getting healthier too. And you got a top five pass
Speaker 5: rush defense, you got Miles Garrett in a divisional game.
Speaker 5: In this situation with the Bengals team, that still isn't
Speaker 5: that good, right? They shouldn't be a five and a
Speaker 5: half point favorite, it's terrible. Well, you don't want to
Speaker 5: bet the bad quarterback against one of the best quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: I'm not asking you to do it. I'm just telling
Speaker 4: you what the professionals are doing.
Speaker 1: So are you saying the wise guys like Kansas City
Speaker 1: plus one and a half against San Francisco completely split?
Speaker 5: It is like you have the guys who are just
Speaker 5: like you who refuse to bet against Patrick Mahomes. In fact,
Speaker 5: they would rather take their shot and bet on Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5: They don't want to be watching the end of the
Speaker 5: game and seeing Patrick Mahomes have the ball and know
Speaker 5: they should have bet on him and have not bet
Speaker 5: on him. But what's been interesting is the Chiefs are
Speaker 5: a very public road underdog. That is not a great
Speaker 5: situation to be on the side of. If you're a professional,
Speaker 5: if you're a better right, you want to be against
Speaker 5: the public in most situations. This number has been kind
Speaker 5: of staying at one and a half, which tells you
Speaker 5: that the wise guys have been coming in on the Niners.
Speaker 5: So if they're closing their eyes looking at rosters, looking
Speaker 5: at data, they're betting the Niners. If they're eyes wide
Speaker 5: open seeing who's on the field they're betting the chiefs.
Speaker 1: Chad Millman, Sharper Square CEO, Action Network. All odds provided
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