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Speaker 1: Time today. What time is it game Time? So third

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Speaker 1: week in a row, Aaron Rodgers had the ball late

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Speaker 1: with a chance to win Denver, Minnesota and now Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and could not get it done. You know, I've said

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Speaker 1: this four years. The strangest stat about Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 1: how few come from behind wins he has considering how

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Speaker 1: many big close games he's been in. The Jets lead

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Speaker 1: the NFL and penalty yards are second in total penalties

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Speaker 1: twenty two total penalties between the two teams. That I

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Speaker 1: did not love the officiating. I thought there were two

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Speaker 1: calls that already bothered me. The one when Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: tucked it got hit fumble would have been huge for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: They called it an incomplete pass. Didn't like that call

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Speaker 1: at all. Also, a Jets pass interference wiped out with

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Speaker 1: an unnecessary roughness against Buffalo. Did not like that call

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Speaker 1: at all. I don't complain about officiating, all right, I don't.

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Speaker 1: That's what you do your fans, I get it. I don't.

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Speaker 1: But I thought I didn't like either of those calls.

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Speaker 1: And again this game came down. So I had predicted

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Speaker 1: before the year Buffalo will win this division for what

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Speaker 1: the fifth straight year, mostly because of Josh Allen, and

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Speaker 1: then the Jets New englandle stink They'll be fourth, and

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Speaker 1: the Jets Miami will go down to the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, battling for the playoffs the final weekend, and

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Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if I had either one

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Speaker 1: of them in the playoffs. I don't think I had

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Speaker 1: the Jets in the playoffs, and I may have had Miami,

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Speaker 1: but I think they'll go down to the final week

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Speaker 1: and I think if Tuoa comes back here and plays

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season, Miami will heat up. So

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Speaker 1: the Jets are now two and four, Bills are four

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Speaker 1: and two, So it's working out. The Jets are fine, though,

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Speaker 1: don't overreact. They've got Justin Field's coming up. They've got

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Speaker 1: Drake May around the corner. They got Anthony Richardson coming up.

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Speaker 1: They've got a stretch of really weak quarterbacks, and Aaron's

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Speaker 1: planned pretty well. As the Bills won tonight twenty three

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Speaker 1: twenty there were opportunities for both teams. But when you

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Speaker 1: get into these games like tonight, these big division games,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's Cincinnati Baltimore. Lamar Jackson was

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Speaker 1: the difference. You know, when you watch these big divisional games,

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Speaker 1: it's the quarterback making a play. And two plays at

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Speaker 1: the end of this game by the Bills, and they

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Speaker 1: made the two big plays in the game. Actually three

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Speaker 1: what appeared to be a potential catch by the Jets. Huge,

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Speaker 1: huge play by Rap. Then Taran Johnson with one of

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Speaker 1: the best interceptions I've ever seen. It felt like Ed Reid.

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Speaker 1: I hope everybody understands how great of a play that

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Speaker 1: Ed Reed. That is incredible. So those two plays by

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Speaker 1: and he said, you know, ready fire aim, which is

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Speaker 1: kind of an old line used around the NFL for

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Speaker 1: disorganized and impulsive owners, and that's really what the Jets are.

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Speaker 1: Robert Solid to me, should not have been fired. It

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Speaker 1: the best coach on that staff. The defense was not

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's twenty three to twenty. Let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, let's be fair here. The hail Mary, you

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Speaker 1: get about one of those every four years as a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: that hail mary makes it twenty seventeen at half or

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Speaker 1: of a break. I felt like the Bills earned the

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Speaker 1: a hail mary. It's called that for a reason. Also,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers passing tucking it back. Didn't love that. It's

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Speaker 1: not like there weren't any calls that didn't go, you know,

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Speaker 1: to Matt Hollins, that was just an incredible touchdown pass

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Speaker 1: But the scramble play and thrown to Davis earlier, it's

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Speaker 1: just so unique. Josh is such a unique all time talent. Also,

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Speaker 1: this thing's just you know, I feel really feel like

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Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers last season. I just don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: a circus. He's going to get blamed for this. We

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Speaker 1: have to be honest. You can blame whoever you want.

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Speaker 1: It's now Aaron's team and Denver, Minnesota and the Bills. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: he was the second best quarterback on the field in

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Speaker 1: long stretches against the Vikings in the first half, certainly,

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Speaker 1: And I do think Aaron is playing for his age

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Speaker 1: at a really pretty high level. But he's taken hits.

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Speaker 1: They've already had to demote his offensive coordinator, they've fired

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Speaker 1: his coach. You're looking around, and you remember Aaron was

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Well, they just don't do any of

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Speaker 1: he goes from a really shrewd patient winning culture in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. I mean, he's now, he's been injured, they

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Speaker 1: I just don't see him coming back. I don't it

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Speaker 1: just everything, you just it's the drip drip drip effect.

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Speaker 1: It just wears on Aaron, who's not terribly patient anyway.

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Speaker 1: Who and by the way, I don't think any of

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Speaker 1: us are. I think as I've gotten older, I'm less

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Speaker 1: certain standard, you want things done a certain way. I'm

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Speaker 1: probably much less patient than I was in my twenties

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Speaker 1: or thirties. So you know, Aaron's eye rolls. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was frustrated on that bench you got to kick

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Speaker 1: or missing two kicks in the biggest game. For the Jets,

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Speaker 1: who are now two and four, I think they'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna finish. I said, I thought they'd

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Speaker 1: be like a nine to eight ten and seven team.

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Speaker 1: That's about where they're going to finish. And Buffalo's gonna

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Speaker 1: end up with probably eleven to twelve wins. And not

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Speaker 1: only did the Hail Mary make this game closer than

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Speaker 1: it would have been, but the Jets wins this year

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Speaker 1: are against Will Levis and the Titans and Jacoby Brussett

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots, and teams that start two and four

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Speaker 1: So the Hail Mary, you know, you trail twenty to

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Speaker 1: ten at half, it may it may never cinch up it.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's the better team, Buffalo's got the better quarterback. Buffalo

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Speaker 1: made the three big play at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo keeps winning this division. If you start four and two,

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Speaker 1: that's the Bills. You make the playoffs sixty four percent

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Speaker 1: of the time, and they will. You know, they didn't

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Speaker 1: game in order late and that's why the Bills are

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Speaker 1: gonna win the division again. Hell of a football game

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Speaker 1: for Monday night. I mean, the officiating drove me nuts,

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Speaker 1: but that was a We've been very lucky this year.

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Speaker 1: We've had, you know, Atlanta a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: good standalone games. And I will say this about the officiating.

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Speaker 1: They know everybody's watching, and so on that roughing, unnecessary

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Would that be called in the one o'clock window? Maybe,

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Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes in standalone games, I feel like

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Speaker 1: allow this or tolerate this. I felt like tonight a

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Speaker 1: couple of times they were trying to make a point

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. So right now in the AFC, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen leads his division, Lamar Jackson leads his division. Lamar

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Speaker 1: would be my MVP. CJ. Stroud leads his division. Mahomes

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Speaker 1: leads his easy to predict four for four. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: leave their division. I think the NFC isn't quite as

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Speaker 1: You know, Doug Peterson had a reputation, so I was

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Speaker 1: totally wrong. I thought he was a perfect fit, kind

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Speaker 3: screaming at the fans. It'd be one thing if he

427
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Speaker 3: was kicking ass and they're still chanting fire Sirianni, I

428
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Speaker 3: would get it. It's like, bro, let's you know, cooler

429
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Speaker 3: jets here now. I saw Jalen Hurt said after the game.

430
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Speaker 3: Is one thing that the players talk to Nick about

431
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Speaker 3: during the bye week was to get back to his

432
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Speaker 3: crazy waists, get back to his roots of being emotional

433
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Speaker 3: he had been to. I don't know stoic, I guess

434
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Speaker 3: for their taste over the beginning of this season. But

435
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Speaker 3: if that what you're trying to get back to, like,

436
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Speaker 3: what are we doing? I see, under no scenario, this

437
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Speaker 3: team's not win the Super Bowl, So I just don't

438
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Speaker 3: see how serious Sirianni knows what's going on. Like the

439
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Speaker 3: head shave, what did that symbolize to you? A guy

440
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: searching a guy? Maybe he got a bad haircut.

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Speaker 1: I remember when Robert Sala came in with the black beard,

442
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: like darkened his beard, and it's just like, Bro, you're

443
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: on camera like twelve minutes on national TV in an

444
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Speaker 1: NFL game every week. It did feel like you were

445
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Speaker 1: trying to make some sort of statement. And I I mean,

446
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: I think we know now that Salah and Adam Schefter

447
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Speaker 1: reported that he was he was affected by the noise.

448
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Speaker 1: I think Sirianni's affected. I think Philadelphia is probably the

449
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Speaker 1: loudest NFL city because talk radio is so powerful in

450
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Speaker 1: that city. In the media, there's multiple newspapers. It's a

451
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: it's a kind of a working class for a big

452
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Speaker 1: sophisticated city. It's it's you know it, it's loud and

453
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: if your Andy Reid could shut it out. But I

454
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Speaker 1: think it affected. I think it affects Sirianni set it today.

455
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Speaker 1: I think and I had a I had a music

456
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Speaker 1: producer text me today that I know off this comment

457
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Speaker 1: I made, he'd liked this comment. I think two things

458
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Speaker 1: you see within five to six games of a new

459
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback clear red flags and excellent traits. So I

460
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Speaker 1: always use the example of the voice or of American

461
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Speaker 1: has talent or American idol. I don't know much about

462
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Speaker 1: music other than I enjoy it. But I can see

463
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Speaker 1: within three to f four notes, you know, I mean

464
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: literally twelve seconds hack and great, figuring out lounge singer

465
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Speaker 1: to successful lound singer. Good is hard. Justin Fields could

466
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Speaker 1: be good, but good is very hard to decipher because

467
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Speaker 1: the difference between good and great is consistency. You've got

468
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: very few bad games from Mahomes, whereas Russell Wilson now

469
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Speaker 1: is at the point where ooh that's pretty good. Oh

470
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Speaker 1: that's awful. Same with Justin Field. So I think good

471
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Speaker 1: is hard to decipher. I think awful and great are

472
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Speaker 1: pretty easy. You can see a draft pick in the NBA,

473
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Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that's like James Wiseman. I'm watching with

474
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Speaker 1: the Warriors. Like second year. I'm like, he's never going

475
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Speaker 1: to be a star in this league. It is an

476
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Speaker 1: ant first year All Star break, You're like, yeah, that's

477
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Speaker 1: gonna work. Jason Tatum, Jason Tatum, even rookie year, Jason Tatum,

478
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Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, that's gonna work. He's gonna get better.

479
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Speaker 1: So I look at Caleb and Jayden Daniels and to

480
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: a lesser degree, Boon Nicks, and I'm like, yep, those

481
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Speaker 1: are franchise guys. Whereas Justin Fields was one step forward,

482
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Speaker 1: two back, Caleb just keeps getting better, clearly takes to

483
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Speaker 1: go Jayden Daniels, He's Lamar Jackson, but better in the

484
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Speaker 1: pocket is a rookie. Bo Nix has a lower ceiling,

485
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: less of an arm, reads the field, more mobile than

486
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Speaker 1: anybody that didn't watch Oregon Duck Games really realizes he's

487
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: actually really mobile. Bark's right back at Sean Payton. Not

488
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Speaker 1: a follower, total leader, confrontational, and I feel very now

489
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Speaker 1: now Bow has the less talent. He's in a division

490
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Speaker 1: with Harbon Andy Reid like it's a tough draw. But

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Speaker 1: my take is Caleb, Jayden Bow, these are franchise quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I have no fear saying, yeah, this is what it

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Speaker 1: looks like.

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Speaker 2: So I want to ask you two quick questions before

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Speaker 2: I give you my full response to it. One, I

496
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Speaker 2: guess this would be a small risk. Do you think

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Speaker 2: the NB I don't think the NBA comparison is fair

498
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Speaker 2: because in the NBA it is so purely a talent sport,

499
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: like talent can over overcome situation, like John Moran goes

500
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 2: to Memphis doesn't matter like the franchise. Anthony Edwards goes

501
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: to Minis, It doesn't matter the franchise. Like your talent

502
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: will always win out in the NBA. You might not

503
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Speaker 2: win big if you don't have a good organization, but

504
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: you can be a ten time All Star on a

505
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: bad franchise and make an impact in the NBA. In football,

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Speaker 2: I do think situation coaching, offensive line talent around you.

507
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: It is so situational that I find it much easier

508
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: to make a snap judgment in basketball than I do

509
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Speaker 2: in football. And then I guess the quick question i'd

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Speaker 2: get back to you is what did you say about

511
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Speaker 2: RG three? Because his rookie year was historic? So that's

512
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Speaker 2: good my injury, sure, but I feel like we could

513
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Speaker 2: have said a lot of the things we said about

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Speaker 2: Jaden about RG three.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I said during RG three's rookie year, I

516
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Speaker 1: said Lux the better quarterback, but RG three more fun

517
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Speaker 1: to watch. And voters are suckers for art artistry. NBA

518
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: voters Westbrook, Westbrook, he can't his bad handles and can't shoot.

519
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: Derek Rose couldn't shoot, Spindily ended up getting hurt a lot.

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Speaker 1: So I think RG three pleased the eye, but I

521
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Speaker 1: didn't think it was nearly as sustainable. I thought Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck was bigger, stronger. I mean, Jesus, the kid went

523
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Speaker 1: to Stanford, he memorized a playbook. According to Kobe Fleeener,

524
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Speaker 1: who also went to Stanford in two days, like it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's so, I never bought into.

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Speaker 2: The crazy but I mean, but RG three was Rookie

527
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Speaker 2: of the year, right, I didn't buy it. You so

528
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Speaker 2: you didn't buy it, and you buy something Jaden that

529
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Speaker 2: you did not buy with RG three.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think I think ja you know, I said

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Speaker 1: with RG three, I think he's talented, but he was thin.

532
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Speaker 1: I thought, I said, Andrew Luck's the better player. So

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Speaker 1: Jaden is better in the pocket than RG three. I

534
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Speaker 1: think they're both equally twitchy. But here's was a real

535
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Speaker 1: cell for me on Jayden Daniels. And this almost never happens,

536
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Speaker 1: almost as a rule, when you have a rookie quarterback.

537
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Speaker 1: The coaching staff says, hey, be patient, this is a process, right. Literally,

538
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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, a defensive coach, was like, I've never seen

539
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Speaker 1: anything like this. I mean they literally En Camp couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's like the kid's magic. Brian Kelly runs through

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks at Notre Dame. I think he had six at

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Speaker 1: one point in like five years. So part of it

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Speaker 1: was I watched a lot of his games. Second, the

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Speaker 1: people I trusted, Cliff Kingsbury, Steve Khim, who hired him

545
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Speaker 1: as a friend. He was like, no calling this kid, Cliff,

546
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Speaker 1: can't even like. It's Kyler with more maturity, better in

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Speaker 1: the pocket.

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Speaker 2: And I like Kyler.

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Speaker 1: So I've had good sourcing on Jayden and I totally

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Speaker 1: buy it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Jaden, to me is incredibly impressive. I was

552
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Speaker 2: not as sold I certainly was not as sourced on

553
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Speaker 2: him as you were. It was hard for me, with

554
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Speaker 2: how slender he was and how much talent was around

555
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Speaker 2: him to say for sure that it would translate. Like

556
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Speaker 2: I loved Drake May coming out of college. I had

557
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Speaker 2: him Actually of Jaden some of the games I watched,

558
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Speaker 2: I was like, this guy's doing more with less, tough

559
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: as hell, crazy athlete. Youngest brother comes from a family

560
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: of athletes like overachieved his situation, and Jaden Daniels has

561
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Speaker 2: blown me away. I think every piece of hype that

562
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: he's gotten has been totally totally valid. I do think

563
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Speaker 2: there is an element of some of his production is

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Speaker 2: based on running the football, and that works obviously. Lamar

565
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: Jackson's got a couple of MVPs, but it's not the

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Speaker 2: type of thing that ages particularly well, Like we haven't

567
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Speaker 2: seen that quarterback in their thirties. Like it's a depreciating asset.

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Speaker 2: At some point, you need to just be great from

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Speaker 2: the pocket, and he's been great from the pocket. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he can't be that. But if his

571
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Speaker 2: comp is Lamar Jackson and Caleb Williams's comp is Aaron Rodgers,

572
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Speaker 2: if we did a redraft tomorrow, I would still take

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams over Jade and Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the skill set is actually more sustainable and

576
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Speaker 2: allows for a higher ceiling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah so I so I would too, absolutely, Yeah, But.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a majority opinion anyhoy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think Caleb. I use this word a lot.

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Speaker 1: People think it's weird. Caleb's thicker and trunk here. He's

581
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Speaker 1: a big, thick athlete. If you're standing around him, you're

582
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Speaker 1: like ass legs, shoulders, like he's like he's just big.

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Speaker 1: Jaden is more spindily. That always worries me. But saying

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Speaker 1: I would take Caleb over Jaden is like saying I

585
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Speaker 1: would take vanilla ice cream over chocolate or whatever. Like

586
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Speaker 1: I like him both, and I don't care. I don't care.

587
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Speaker 2: It's possible people at the beginning, people wanted to make

588
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Speaker 2: this because Caleb had a bad couple of games and

589
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: Shane Waldron had an awful adjustment to Chicago. People were

590
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: immediately running too. It's like people have the memory of

591
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: one day, one minute, like it has to be c J. Stroud,

592
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Speaker 2: Bryce Young. I'm like, are you guys crazy? It Like

593
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Speaker 2: that is so stupid, Like it's very possible that this

594
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Speaker 2: draft ends up being by the way, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger,

595
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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, how about this, all three awesome quarterbacks, all

596
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Speaker 2: three franchises and fan bases are thrilled with their.

597
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Speaker 1: Guy, Danny. You don't have to go back that far.

598
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: Herbert Burrow hurt Tua, right, that was just like four

599
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Speaker 1: or five years ago. We had an incredible draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think that that is certainly what

601
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Speaker 2: is in play here, because bo Nix and Jaden have

602
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Speaker 2: far exceeded what my expectations were for them coming into

603
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Speaker 2: the draft. And I'll be honest, it was one game

604
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Speaker 2: I thought Drake May was gonna get killed last Sunday,

605
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Speaker 2: with six offensive line combinations in six games, no offensive

606
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Speaker 2: weapons to speak of, defensive head coach, they were sitting

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Speaker 2: in for a reason that it felt like going up

608
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Speaker 2: against Houston's pass rush, which led I mean the Patriots

609
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: led the league in pressures allowed and the Texans led

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Speaker 2: the league in pressure percentage generated. I was like, this

611
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: is a terrible matchup. Why are they doing this? And

612
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: he acquitted himself beautifully. I thought in the game one

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Speaker 2: of the stories of the season to me is how

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Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, rookie quarterbacks are playing so well. But also,

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Speaker 2: if you just look at completion percentage in the NFL

616
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Speaker 2: right now, fifteenth in the NFL, fifteenth is Will Levis,

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Speaker 2: who's completing sixty six percent of his passage. It's not

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Speaker 2: that long ago that that was top three in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: or even something that would lead the league. So I

620
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Speaker 2: think what has happened And this is a much better

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Speaker 2: podcast topic than TV show topic. I think that analytics

622
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: and the smart people in football have figured out that

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Speaker 2: conservative passing is so valuable. Is an extension of the

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Speaker 2: run game, and young quarterbacks can do it, and young

625
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks are cheap quarterbacks, and we know that's where the

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Speaker 2: market in efficiency is. So it's never been easier to

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Speaker 2: be successful as a young quarterback because the passing game

628
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: is now more left and right than vertical. And in

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Speaker 2: baseball and basketball, the analytics revolution has rewarded the high

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Speaker 2: variance plays. Go for a home run, shoot a three pointer.

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Speaker 2: So analytics in those sports has actually injected like the

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00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: more difficult skill set, whereas analytics in football, don't take risks,

633
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Speaker 2: don't throw the ball down the field, don't force it,

634
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Speaker 2: just matriculate. We'll go forward on fourth down three yards,

635
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: four yards, five yards is fine, and just get the

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Speaker 2: ball out quick, don't take hits, execute the easy pass.

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Speaker 2: And so you're seeing, I mean, Jaden Daniels is completing

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Speaker 2: seventy five percent of his passes. Yeah, that is he

639
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: deserves credit, and he does have some big plays to him,

640
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: so he's not just thinking and dunking. But that number

641
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: makes no sense. Seven years ago, we would have been like,

642
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: that's not going to happen. And so I just I

643
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: think that coaches have gotten so much smarter at cultivating

644
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: an offense where young guys can have a high floor early,

645
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Speaker 2: then it makes it more difficult for me to evaluate

646
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: their ceiling because I think the floor has been raised

647
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: so significantly.

648
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I have said about the Cowboys

649
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: and the Lakers, very insular franchises with a lot of

650
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: buses and friends of buses, and the Lakers and a

651
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: lot of Joneses and friends of Jones' inside the Cowboys.

652
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: Is that as the league's gotten sharper, shrewder and more analytical,

653
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Cowboys have gotten more of the

654
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: corner grocery store in a supermarket world. Is that football's

655
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: gotten so smart And you look at the Cowboys right now,

656
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: and they're over paying for a quarterback that's a B

657
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: plus quarterback Like that is the number one mistake in

658
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: the league. Pay for Mahomes or a rookie quarterback. Those

659
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: are the only two. You can have Garoppolo and Goff

660
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: early in their career and get to a super Bowl.

661
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: You can have Garoppolo and get to a super Bowl

662
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Speaker 1: before you pay them big.

663
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Speaker 2: You can't if you get McVeigh, if you get Shanahan,

664
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Speaker 2: Yes you get if you get one of those guys.

665
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: And obviously those guys don't count against your salary cap,

666
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: so do anything you can to hire one of those guys.

667
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Speaker 1: So people, it's remarkable to me that the Cowboys and

668
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: the market struggles with this. I think Dallas fans have

669
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: finally figured it out. The Athletic did a poll and

670
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: like seventy five percent of Cowboy fans are like, we

671
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: have no chance to win the super Bowl for five years.

672
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: So they get it. Cowboy fans get it. But these

673
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: people that think it's an anti deck conversation, No, it's

674
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: an anti bank paying a B plus quarterback a plus money.

675
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: It is so odd. It's like the most obvious analytics

676
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: some we can argue about in baseball. Some are clear

677
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: that the ground ball is a death penalty, a strikeout's not.

678
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: That's pretty obvious if you don't follow too much analytics

679
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: in football, just don't pay a good quarterback great money

680
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: if you don't know anything else. That's clear, and the

681
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys you're doing it.

682
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's I get why teams do it, even

683
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: saying that, because in Dallas's situation, let's say they decided

684
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: not to pay Dak and just let him leave for nothing.

685
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: That's also bad team building, like, he finished second in

686
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: the league in MVP last year. He's won twelve games

687
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: three years in a row. They led the league in

688
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: scoring last year. I hate when teams just let stars

689
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: walk for nothing. You have to get something for your asset,

690
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: even if it's sixty cents on the dollar. You have

691
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: to get something. And so Dallas was going to be

692
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: too good to draft Drake may or to draft Bo Knicks,

693
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: or to draft Jada Daniels, And so then they would

694
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: be more they maybe they wouldn't be paying big money

695
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: to go get a good quarterback, but they would be

696
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: trading multiple first round picks to move up and get

697
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: a good quarterback. And do you trust that Jerry Jones

698
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: is going to hire the right coach to develop the

699
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: young quarterback? Because yeah, if you could say, I'd rather

700
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: have Jaden Daniels at his money than Dak Prescott at

701
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: his like of course, obviously, but Atlanta was like, we

702
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: can't have another year of Desmond Ritter, Like, we will

703
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: give Kirk Cousins one hundred and eighty million dollars at

704
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: thirty five coming off of an achilles and draft Michael

705
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: Pennix so that we never have to go through a

706
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: season like that again, like there aren't thirty two good

707
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the world that can do this job, and

708
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: there's thirty two teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think something I touched on last week

710
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: is quarterbacks come in more ready to play, but owners

711
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: are more ready to fire them. So you've got this

712
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: convergence of yeah, wealthier, wealthier owners, more impulsive, quarterbacks, more talented,

713
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: we're not giving you two full years. I mean the

714
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: fact that Daniel Jones got an extension and was basically

715
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: a C minus quarterback, it's just that doesn't that doesn't

716
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: happen anymore.

717
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 2: You know that that that was a terrible one. That

718
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: that one made made no sense. And the thing about

719
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: these rookies, like I I kept saying when I was

720
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: still doing radio in Chicago, I was like, we need

721
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: to hold Caleb Williams to a really high standard. Yeah,

722
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 2: And people were like, why do you keep saying CJ.

723
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: Stroud that's an outlier? No, it was. The outlier for

724
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: Stroud was that he didn't throw interceptions. He only had

725
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: five interceptions, but Dak had four, like we have as

726
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: a rookie. We have seen it before. The guy had

727
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: twenty three touchdowns, he had a little over four thousand yards.

728
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: It was a very, very, very impressive season because no

729
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: one saw it coming. Houston was terrible. He turned him around.

730
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: He won a playoff game, but I mean he beat

731
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: the Browns. He beat Joe Flacco in a playoff game.

732
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: Like and again this is not to Naxie j Stroud,

733
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: but my point is it is easy easier to be

734
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: good as a rookie because back in the day, you'd

735
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: be playing in like the Big twelve in a spread offense,

736
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, come into the NFL and be

737
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: under center and take seven step drops and throw post routes.

738
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: And now they're like, everything's out of the shotgun. You

739
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: could have a wristband, we're going to call the play

740
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: in on a number, and we're going to give you

741
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: a run pass option just like you had in college.

742
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: So it's just so much easier to be good early

743
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: that I hope that we get smarter when Shador Sanders

744
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: or whoever comes into the NFL next year, and then

745
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: everyone's like, pump the brakes on expectations, no man, like,

746
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: build your organization from coaches, from investment in the offensive line,

747
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: wide receivers, build your organization to take advantage of the

748
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: first four years of these guys when they're crazy cheap,

749
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: because that's the easiest time it should ever be for

750
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: you to win a Super Bowl if you have a

751
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: great quarterback. And I do think that Washington and Chicago,

752
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: at least, I'll say it on those guys. You're farther

753
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: ahead on bow next than I am. But those teams

754
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: should be making hyper aggressive moves the next three years

755
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl, because that's what you can

756
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: do if you've got a quarterback who's that good, who's

757
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: that cheap.

758
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: There are certain things that the media does. They don't

759
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: irritate me, but they're so predictable. One of them is

760
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: early in the season when there are injuries. People are like,

761
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen this many NFL injuries. Yes,

762
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: you have twelve months earlier, and in the end, almost

763
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: without exception, you get to a Super Bowl and each

764
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: team is missing like one starter, and teams are overwhelmingly healthy.

765
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: Players get healthier. Players are they hit less in practice,

766
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: they hit less in games. Doctors are better, fitness, fitness

767
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: is better. They're fine. So here's the other one that

768
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 1: just cracks me up. After a great weekend in college football. Man,

769
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: college football is so much better than the NFL. No,

770
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: they're both great, and they're different. The NFL is a

771
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: higher level of coaching and playing. You get guaranteed, like

772
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: five to seven great games a weekend, even though there's

773
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: only thirty two teams. In college football, you have one

774
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty teams, and you may get four great

775
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: games and a great weekend. I mean, like last weekend

776
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: was great, and we all knew it was great. But

777
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: you'll have weekends going into a college football weekend where

778
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: like there's like one game between ranked teams and you

779
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: can get a nice Kansas State TCU game. But I

780
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: went out with my wife, I'm not watching it. So

781
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: here's how I look at the NFL in college The

782
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: NFL is a successful brother in the family. He always

783
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: has a nice car, he's got a nice fund with

784
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: his broker. A little boring at times and predictable, but

785
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: you kind of know what you get. College football is

786
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: the brother and the family that twice a year you

787
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: have a big part of You invite him over and

788
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: he'll take all his clothes off, go naked, jump into

789
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: a pool, kind of drunk. People laugh, but it's kind

790
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: of inappropriate. You're not happy with him, but you do

791
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: wake up the next morning and say, you know, he

792
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: really gets the most out of life we have. We

793
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: have a nicer our kids go to better schools, we

794
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: have a nicer life. But you know, Tim, he really

795
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: has a good time in life. And that's how I

796
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: feel College football is at its best. It's wild, fans

797
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: are pouring on the field. The officiating can be abjectly horrid.

798
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: These are twenty.

799
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: Soccer players who may or may not know what they're doing.

800
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: Special teams are a s show. Yeah, but like Tim

801
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: who got naked and jumped into a pool, there is

802
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: something memorable and ecstatic about it. And I thought Oregon

803
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: Oregon Ohio State was that it's like Jesus. But my

804
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: point being, if I circle back, is they're both great.

805
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: They're much more unique. Ones corporate. One's on a campus,

806
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: and I think that's the beauty of them.

807
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny, though, I mean, some of your finest work, Colin,

808
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: I what do you what are your finest analogies? We

809
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: got to work on Tim's name. I feel like Tim's

810
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: name should be like like Madison or like Bucky or

811
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: you've seen like like a college. Yeah, yeah, exactly, so

812
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: we get we gotta work on Tim's name. But otherwise

813
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: nine point eight out of ten on the column analogy scale.

814
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: And I was just judging myself because I like the

815
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: NFL so much more than college. And I'm like, yeah,

816
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: I think boring, corporate, suburban guy with like the healthy

817
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: Stockport folks. Yeah, I know, dude, I'm washed up, like

818
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: I got a wife and two kids, and I just

819
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: love like a sushi dinner and a bottle of red

820
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: and a nice early bedtime.

821
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: But but yeah, it is.

822
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: It's it's true college at its best. It's just you're like,

823
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: this is crazy. I don't understand what's happening here. This

824
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: is random. A team that's a thirty point underdog can

825
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: win a game, like you know what the NFL it's like, Oh,

826
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: the biggest spread on the board is six and a half,

827
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: like right, like it's it's parody by design. There's a

828
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: salary cap, there's a salary floor. Free agents are just

829
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: as likely to choose Dallas as they are Buffalo in

830
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: Green Bay because they just follow the money. Like it's

831
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: I think the NFL is the perfect viewing product. I

832
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: think it's perfect. Every game matters. Every team before the

833
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: season doesn't think they can win a Super Bowl, but

834
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: like worst a first tap in every single year, rookie

835
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks can change a franchise on a dime. Like basically

836
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: every franchise has some reason to believe at least within

837
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: three years. Right, Like Jacksonville three years ago absolutely thought

838
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: that it was on the board that they had a

839
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: future Hall of Fame quarterback. So I think the NFL

840
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: is a perfect viewing product, and college is just a

841
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: little tougher for me to like follow and be fully

842
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: invested in weekend in week out. But college at its

843
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: best is just awesome. And it's because it means like

844
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: an irrational amount to the people in the building.

845
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: Not that.

846
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: Don't fight and pro fans aren't passionate, they obviously are,

847
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: but it's just like the tribalism of like this is

848
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: the most important thing in the entire state of Alabama. Right,

849
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: I'm a fifth generation Badger, Like there's just something about

850
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 2: like the college football pageantry that I'll never be able

851
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 2: to quit.

852
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: All Right, I predicted last week the league would have

853
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: a separation. Best quarterbacks would win Week six Going forward,

854
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: in most cases, and the best quarterbacks last week went

855
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: fourteen and er I went three and one on my picks.

856
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: I had the Jets with the points, but the Bills winning.

857
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: I just needed the Jets to make an occasional field goal.

858
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: Is that too much to ask? The Action Network CEO

859
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Chad Millman, my friend. All odds provided by DraftKings.

860
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

861
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: I always feel like defensive players get hurt statistically more

862
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: often than offfensive players. That's where more the violence is.

863
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: Defenses get weaker over time. Quarterbacks pull away from the league,

864
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: and once again, I think this is the second strongest

865
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: week I think I've seen so far this year, so

866
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. I think there's clear distinction in

867
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: some of these games, and as you know, I don't

868
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: have to like a team to like them for a week.

869
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't like the Jaguars, but I think the staff

870
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: is fighting for its life. It's also number five. You

871
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: know I'm into number five. I'm sorry, I know sevens.

872
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: The lucky number five is mine. A team that regularly

873
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: plays in London, a New England team that's limited and

874
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: actually Trevor Lawrence has not played poorly the last couple

875
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: of weeks. If it's five, I take the favorite. Last

876
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: week four and five the Packers was my favorite bet.

877
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: The game was over eight minutes in Probably not sharp,

878
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: but I love it. Sharper square.

879
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: I feel like you're playing some kind of game of

880
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: numerology and astrology and like I don't like I don't

881
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 5: like bad quarterbacks.

882
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: I like good quarterbacks. I like the number five.

883
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 5: I don't sign don't like the number seven when the

884
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 5: zodiac sign says mercury. Because in retrograde, I'm definitely going

885
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 5: with the team from Jacksonville.

886
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: If they're playing in London.

887
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 5: Yes, this actually is the sharp side, and it's because

888
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: some of what you said, but it's also the Jags

889
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 5: have been in London favorite historically. Yeah, thirty five and

890
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 5: ten in London. I mean the just winning outright, thirty

891
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 5: five and ten in London. Some like thirty and fifteen

892
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 5: against the spread. It's like it's the right side. It's

893
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 5: the nominally better team in a more desperate situation. So yes,

894
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 5: it's I mean most wise, guys are like, I'm not

895
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 5: really planning I even watching this game.

896
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to sleep in. But if they're going to bet,

897
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 4: they're going to beat the Jaguars.

898
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: You just sent it in the Jets, and it made

899
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 5: me think of a funny story because that game was

900
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 5: so disgusting.

901
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 4: The night before the game, if you were.

902
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 5: Betting the Giants at plus three and a half, was

903
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: also terrible because they were winning. They had won that

904
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 5: game like they were the better team. They had Stemy

905
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, they missed field goals. At the end of

906
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 5: the game. It was clear they were going to lose

907
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 5: because something funky was going to happen. The Bengals weren't

908
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 5: just going to lay down at ten to seven. They

909
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: were going to do something that sort of recapped the Giants.

910
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 5: I'm watching this game and I feel like you'll appreciate this.

911
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 5: It's eleven o'clock at night. I'm watching the game in bed.

912
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 5: My wife is sent me, sleeping next to me, and

913
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 5: she starts she says something to me, and I'm like,

914
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 5: I can't understand what you're saying.

915
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 4: What are you saying?

916
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 5: And she starts talking to me about something that has

917
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 5: nothing to do with anything, that is a total non

918
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 5: sequit or to the day, the weekend, everything, and I go,

919
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 5: I can we just not talk about this right now?

920
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 5: Like we don't need to have this conversation in this

921
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 5: second goes, that's fine.

922
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: I understand. My feeling right now is you're probably going

923
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 4: to lose this.

924
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 5: Game and you're going to wake up in the morning

925
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: and people are on Twitter. I'm just going to tell

926
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 5: you you're stupid. And then she rolled over and she

927
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 5: went back to bed.

928
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: That's what they do, by the way.

929
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 5: She was right, Yeah, I felt like you would appreciate

930
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 5: every single element to that.

931
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: So that was one of my Blazing five picks. And

932
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: for the first or second time in my career, I

933
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: pulled it off the Blazing five. When Malik Neighbors was

934
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: not available, I pulled it out. I almost inserted the Bears.

935
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: My staff knew I loved that game. I did, and

936
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: so I finished three and one. Here's my favorite pick

937
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: of the week, and it again you. I have a rule.

938
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: When a good team plays a perfect game and it's

939
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: the game of the week and it's flawless pro college,

940
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: you don't duplicate that. We've seen that multiple times this year.

941
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: Minnesota off of by Detroit off the perfect football game.

942
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: No thank you. I'll lay the points Vikings now minus

943
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: one and a half sharper square.

944
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: So it's square what's really interesting here is and you

945
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 5: know me and me and my co host Salmon Hunter

946
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 5: talked about this on the Favorites. He's a professional better

947
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 5: and a lot of times what professional betters do, they

948
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 5: will manipulate the market. So this game was at Minnesota

949
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 5: minus one, minus one and a half or during the

950
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 5: week it went up to two, it went up to

951
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 5: two and a half, and then as soon as it

952
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 5: got to two and a half, the professional betters started

953
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 5: betting Detroit again. It went back down to two, it

954
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 5: went back down to one and a half. So there's

955
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 5: a philosophy. There's a theory right now that the professional

956
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 5: betters early in the week were betting small amounts of

957
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 5: money to bet this game up a little bit so

958
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 5: they could come in later in the week when the

959
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 5: books take bigger dollar amounts and bet the Detroit Lions

960
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 5: much much heavier.

961
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: Right.

962
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 4: The Lions, to me are the right side. I think

963
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 4: there's a.

964
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 5: Difference between teams that are playing perfect games and teams

965
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 5: that are are fundamentally as close to perfect as you

966
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 5: can get. And I like to bet looking inside out.

967
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 5: I like to bet offensive line first, and the offensive

968
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 5: line for the Detroit Lions is just dominant they are,

969
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 5: and I think the past few weeks, and we talked

970
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 5: about this last week with the Lions and the Cowboys,

971
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 5: they have figured out how to play physical, violent football.

972
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 5: They've gotten out of the way of sort of trying

973
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 5: to figure out if Jared Goff going to wins the game. No,

974
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 5: the offensive line is going to wins the game. Running

975
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 5: the ball is going to win us the game. Jared

976
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 5: Goff will then perform off of those situations that we

977
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 5: have set up for him. So offensively, I think this

978
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 5: is a much better team, and I do think Jared

979
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 5: Goff and Ben Johnson will know how to scheme against

980
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: Brian Flores, whose defense has been great, and the offensive

981
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 5: line will protect against the pass rush that Flores has

982
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 5: been great at generating. The worst unit on this field

983
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 5: is going to be the Vikings offense. So if there

984
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: is any diminished performance from the Lions because of Aden Hutchinson,

985
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 5: I do think it's somewhat mitigated by the fact they're

986
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 5: not playing a lights out offense and we're all looking

987
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 5: to sell the Vikings. We're trying to figure it out, right,

988
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 5: when are we going to sell the Vikings? A lot

989
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 5: of wise guys think this is the week.

990
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: Okay. I on Monday on the Herd on FS one

991
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio, I said I'm taking the Rams at five.

992
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: The line will move up dramatically. It's the rare mistake

993
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: by Vegas McVeigh Stafford off a buy. They're getting healthier.

994
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: The Raiders made a true trade for getting rid of

995
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Devonte Adams, so it makes it even tastier. But I

996
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: think Devonte Adams leaving sends a real message. The Max

997
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: Crosby rumors don't help. They're saying he won't be traded.

998
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: But it's not a great locker room right now. And

999
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: the Raiders are not a team that needs to win

1000
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: because they're not going to. It's a distracted team with

1001
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: bad mojo. The Rams now need to go on a street.

1002
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: They're healthier, better, coach better. In fact, it's the biggest

1003
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: coach quarterback mismatch on the board this week. I have

1004
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: it at minus five sharper square.

1005
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 5: If you have it at five, that is incredible and

1006
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 5: it's sharp, and you should hold on to that like

1007
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 5: it's a cugly teddy bear, because that line does not

1008
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 5: exist like it's at six and a half in most places.

1009
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 5: So if you can get a five, or if you

1010
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 5: have a five, if you can book a five, take

1011
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 5: the five.

1012
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 4: At six and a half.

1013
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 5: It's not a number that I would want to really

1014
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 5: lean into for the Rams. The truth is if at

1015
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 5: six and a half, I might even lean Raiders. I

1016
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 5: agree with you about Stafford and McVeigh. Nobody really trusts

1017
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 5: Aidan O'Connell. But the line bumped up for two reasons.

1018
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 5: One expectation that Cooper Cup might come back. They did

1019
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 5: think he could come back in week seven, and because

1020
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 5: the Raiders got blown out by the Steelers. But if

1021
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 5: you look at that box score, that game was close.

1022
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 5: It was seven to six at the end of the

1023
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 5: first half. It was twelve seven when and then three

1024
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 5: consecutive series fluky things happened to give the Steelers a

1025
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 5: huge lead. And even then the Raiders had opportunities to

1026
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 5: come back, and they were called back for penalties. They

1027
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 5: fumbled on the one yard line after they had scored

1028
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 5: a touchdown that was called back. So the game was

1029
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: closer than the score of peer. So I think six

1030
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 5: and a half is too much. Seattle plus a field

1031
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 5: goal and Atlanta is interesting. The Seahawks are getting healthy.

1032
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 5: I know you have a luck rating, and the Saints

1033
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: were called unlucky. I do think Atlanta's had a few

1034
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 5: breaks go their way and they're a tad overvalued. I

1035
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 5: think they win their division, but I actually think even

1036
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 5: the game against Tampa Bay that they won in overtime,

1037
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 5: I kind of felt most of the game Tampa was

1038
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 5: better and has a higher ceiling. I kind of like

1039
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 5: Seattle in the spot. They've been a funky mess defensively

1040
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 5: and you think they're not very good. Now they're finally

1041
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 5: getting their best defenders back and Gino Smith.

1042
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: Atlanta has no pass rush. They have really good receivers.

1043
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: I like Seattle in the points Sharper square.

1044
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 5: Ish at two and a half, the wise guys are

1045
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 5: playing the Falcons. At three, they might play Seattle, they

1046
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 5: won't play Atlanta. They were kind of hoping it would

1047
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 5: get to three and a half so they could play

1048
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 5: Atlanta if they like Seattle. It's because of everything you

1049
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 5: just said to getting a little bit healthier. Atlanta can't

1050
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 5: generate a pass rush. The Falcons could just as easily

1051
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 5: be zero to six right now. Right and we talked

1052
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 5: about this last week. The games they have won. Three

1053
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 5: games that they won, they had a five percent chance

1054
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 5: to win those games, sometimes with less than thirty seconds left,

1055
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 5: and they still won those games. So there has been

1056
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 5: a lot of sort of luck involved in their season

1057
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 5: so far.

1058
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: So that is due. They are due for aggression there.

1059
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 5: Even last week against the Panthers, I and tail Andy

1060
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 5: Dalton threw that pick yes, right into his territory and

1061
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 5: then the Falcons went on an e four yard drive.

1062
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 5: The Panthers were running all over them, and they had

1063
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 5: a chance to be very close in that game, if

1064
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 5: not win it out right. So it's a it's a

1065
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 5: this is a number play entirely. Two and a half

1066
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 5: Atlanta three or more Seattle.

1067
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: Okay, one of my favorite bets of the week, and

1068
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: it was before Devonte Adams. I'll take the Jets one

1069
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: as one and a half. The Steelers are a mess.

1070
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: They don't even know who their quarterback is. I think

1071
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: the Jets are an excellent two and four team if

1072
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: they could kick field goals. Think about this, If it

1073
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: wasn't for Taylor rap making two remarkable plays at safety

1074
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: jarring the ball loose, and if it wasn't for Tarron

1075
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: Johnson making honestly and Ed Reid level interception like one

1076
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: of the great plays of the year. Jets win that game.

1077
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: Aaron played well, they ran the ball. They had seventy

1078
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: two percent motion twenty five percent with NTA Hacket the

1079
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: week before. I think the Jets are a really really

1080
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: undervalued two four team. Their high profile the game is

1081
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: stand alone. You think they're no good. They really should

1082
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: have beaten the Bills. Sharper square totally sharp. They like

1083
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: it for everything you just said. The reason they really

1084
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: like it.

1085
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 5: Is because the indications are Russell Wilson will be the

1086
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 5: starting quarterback. And you can't find anybody who really understands

1087
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 5: the logic in that call, unless it's just Mike Tomlin

1088
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 5: living up to a promise that he gave to Russell

1089
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 5: Wilson that he would be a starting quarterback. He really

1090
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 5: shouldn't be. And now you're getting Russell Wilson at a

1091
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 5: time where they've already lost their right guard, James Daniels,

1092
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 5: who was graded as the best guard in the NFL

1093
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 5: before his achilles was injured, and then last week they

1094
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 5: lost Zach Fraser, who was greater as the fourth best

1095
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 5: center according to Pro Football Focus in the NFL, which

1096
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 5: is one of the reasons why their running game had

1097
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 5: been so powerful and they could get away with justin

1098
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 5: fields not being very good. So now you're getting rid

1099
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 5: of who are the best offensive linemen in the NFL.

1100
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 5: That is the strength of your team, and you're putting

1101
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 5: in a quarterback who is not nearly as mobile, yet

1102
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 5: he's going to have more pressure because the strength of

1103
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 5: the Jets defense is the interior of their defensive line.

1104
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 5: So forget about Aaron Rodgers, forget about DeVante Adams. The

1105
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 5: reason why professional betters are leaning the Jets is because

1106
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 5: of those interior factors. And again, those are the things

1107
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 5: that don't get as discussed in sort of the larger platforms,

1108
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 5: but that's what the betters are looking at. It's what's

1109
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 5: happening at the center of the Steelers line and who

1110
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 5: the quarterback is going to be much more than Devanta Adams.

1111
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 5: And you've seen this number go up even though the

1112
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 5: majority of the bets have actually come in on the Steelers,

1113
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 5: but the money the professionals have come in on the Jets.

1114
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: So I never bet against Lamar Jackson in the NFC,

1115
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: but at three and a half points, I do like

1116
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: Tampa at home. I think Tampa may be the most

1117
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: underrated team in the league. I mean Baker Mayfield. He'll

1118
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: give you a little wiggle. Fourteen of his fifteen touchdowns

1119
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: from the pocket. He and Chris Godwin are humming. They

1120
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: have a three pronged run game, Tucker, Bucky, Irving White,

1121
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: like three legitimate running backs. And that is a team

1122
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: that even in games they've lost, you look up and think, oh,

1123
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: this this is probably the better team. If I get

1124
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: the hook, I'm taking Tampa here. Also, Ravens have been

1125
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: back to back very emotional games. I think you know

1126
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: they always beat the NFC, but sharper square, I'd go

1127
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: I'd go the hook in Tampa.

1128
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 5: One hundred percent sharp. And this was this line opened

1129
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 5: at four and a half. What's really interesting is you

1130
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 5: talked about sort of the performance of the public last

1131
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 5: week by saying betting on the better quarterback. Right, last

1132
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 5: week the public went ten three and one. The public

1133
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 5: in the five weeks prior had had the worst start

1134
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 5: of the season it it ever had. And just for clarity,

1135
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 5: when I talk about the public, I mean amateur betters

1136
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 5: who tend to bet favorites and tend to bet the

1137
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 5: favorites to cover. Right, So you're talking about teams like

1138
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 5: the Ravens or the Chiefs or you know, in this case,

1139
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 5: last week, the Lions. Normally the public does not win.

1140
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 5: So the public is all over the Ravens this week.

1141
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 5: And when that happens, bookmakers, when the public really cashes in,

1142
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 5: bookmakers know amateur betters are fat and happy. They're going

1143
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 5: to take the money they won the week before. They

1144
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 5: are going to go to the sports book. They are

1145
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 5: going to bet the favorites again because hey, I just

1146
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 5: want how hard can this be? I just won betting

1147
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 5: the Ravens to win by a touchdown against the Commanders,

1148
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: and they did it. So now they're going to come

1149
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 5: back and you can see, like the Bucks game, it

1150
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 5: opened at four and a half, it immediately got that

1151
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 5: down to three and a half. That's because the wise

1152
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 5: guys came in on the Bucks and they still like

1153
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 5: the Bucks. Baker's the key here. What Baker can do

1154
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 5: thrown across the middle to Godwin and Mike Evans hopefully,

1155
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 5: because he did have a little bit of a soft

1156
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 5: tissue injury and so there is some concern he might

1157
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 5: not play, but assuming he will, what Baker can do

1158
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 5: across the field in middle of the field against a

1159
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 5: coverage unit in the Ravens that is bottom third in

1160
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 5: the league, and a pass defense that is giving up

1161
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 5: the second most passing yards per game in the NFL.

1162
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 5: The only team worse is the Jaguars. This is a

1163
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 5: recipe for Baker to keep this game close. Or Colin,

1164
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 5: it's a recipe for Baker to break our hurt with

1165
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 5: an interception when the team is down by ten and

1166
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 5: we need him to score a touchdown to cover the

1167
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 5: back door.

1168
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's done both. Let's talk about something really really important.

1169
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,360
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1170
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1171
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Speaker 1: Over one hundred offices nationwide. Think about that, more than

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Speaker 1: one thousand lawyers with over twenty billion. That's a b

1173
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Speaker 1: twenty billion dollars recovered over five hundred thousand clients. Things

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Speaker 1: and Morgan is really really easy. Like winning in the

1176
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Speaker 1: NFL is hard. We know that quarterbacking in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is hard, Submitting a claim is easy. You're ever injured,

1178
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1179
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1180
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Speaker 1: dot com slash Colin or dial pound law from your

1181
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Speaker 1: cell phone. Pretty easy. That's for the people dot com

1182
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: slash Colin or pound law pound five to nine from

1183
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Speaker 1: your cell Morgan and Morgan has a proven track record

1184
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: of fighting for you to get a full and fair

1185
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: compensation if there's an unexpected accident in your life. This

1186
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: is a paid advertisement. There's always a game. I want

1187
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: your I feel mildly interested, but I want your conviction

1188
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: and your insight. The last the only time the Texans

1189
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: have really played awful this year was when they traveled

1190
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: north and face Minnesota and it was a lot of

1191
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: Brian Flores and CJ. Stroud acknowledging I don't even know

1192
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: what I saw. I like Green Bay. I've never loved

1193
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: their defense. Texans getting three. I've got Joe Mixon back

1194
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: a run component. I want your opinion on this. It's

1195
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: telling me to bet Texans, but I think Jordan Love

1196
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: is such a special player. But Demiko Ryans could do

1197
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: a Brian Flores to Jordan Love like Flores did to

1198
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud. Tell me that Texans is the right side.

1199
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 4: It's not. This is one of those number plays.

1200
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 5: There's plenty of places where you can get the Packers

1201
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 5: at minus two and a half, and the wise guys

1202
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 5: are betting the Packers at two and a half. And

1203
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 5: what really tells you the wise guys are betting the

1204
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 5: Packers at two and a half is the way the

1205
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 5: money is split.

1206
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 4: Again, public is all over the Texas.

1207
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 5: You can see that the money is coming in on

1208
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 5: the Packers, and that's what's fascinating here.

1209
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 4: So it's a really hard game.

1210
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 5: There has been a huge debate in the professional betting

1211
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 5: community about which is the right side. But if you're

1212
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 5: getting the Packers at two and a half, people want

1213
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 5: to make that bet.

1214
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 4: The professionals want to make that bet.

1215
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: What's the game I'm missing? It's usually egregiously uncomfortable to watch.

1216
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: It's a corner of a corner TV game. What is it?

1217
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 5: Well, I'm a little surprised we didn't talk about the

1218
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 5: Chiefs and the Niners at all.

1219
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: I will not bet against Andy reid Off of Bye.

1220
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: My heart tells me the Niners are eventually going to

1221
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: win one of these games. Brock Purty is actually today

1222
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: playing better than Mahomes. So my gut is the Niners

1223
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: are the side. But betting against Andy Reid off a

1224
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: bye is like these days betting against Otaani with men

1225
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: on base. I'm not interested.

1226
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, not only that, betting against Patrick Mahomes as an underdog.

1227
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like ten and three or something.

1228
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 4: It's it's ridiculous. So I'm glad.

1229
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 5: I'm glad because the answer would be there is no answer,

1230
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 5: and it's what you just said. It's a heart and

1231
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,479
Speaker 5: a head game. In your head, it's like the Super

1232
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 5: Bowl last year. In your head, the Niners have the

1233
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 5: better roster. The Niners should win this game outright, But

1234
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes some like you make your own luck, right,

1235
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 5: even this year, they've been lucky in so many spots,

1236
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 5: and you have to say to yourself, of course this

1237
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 5: is going to end. It can't continue to be this way.

1238
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 5: But it's Patrick Mahomes who finds a way to get

1239
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 5: out of the pocket, find Travis Kelcey in his zone.

1240
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 5: When Travis Kelcey hasn't caught two passes the entire game.

1241
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, the last drive they need a

1242
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 5: field goal. They're driving down the field, they get the

1243
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 5: field goal. Quirky things happen, so it's a really hard game,

1244
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 5: Like people don't want to really invest in this game.

1245
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I almost like I'm sick to my stomach

1246
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 5: telling you this. But the Wise guys are all over

1247
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 5: the Browns now plums. Yeah, plus five and a half

1248
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 5: against the Bengals and oh, I know, I know.

1249
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: Oh Crows. I mean they just traded to MARII Cooper.

1250
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 5: Well, look, so what happened was this line was at

1251
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 5: five and a half, and the Wise guys were already

1252
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 5: trending towards the brown.

1253
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: Now this is at Cleveland getting five and a half

1254
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati and burrough.

1255
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 5: Yes, and so when Mark Cooper was traded Tuesday afternoon,

1256
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: this line immediately shot up to six and a half.

1257
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 5: Do you know who's not worth a point against the

1258
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 5: points bread? Amari Cooper. Do you know who else isn't

1259
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 5: worth a point against the point spread? Aiden Hutchinson. There

1260
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 5: is nobody in the NFL who is worth a point

1261
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 5: against this point spread unless it's a quarterback. Anyone else

1262
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 5: is a half a point. That's it, Amari Cooper. The

1263
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 5: Browns should get points back for trading Amari Cooper. That's

1264
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 5: how the Wise guys look at this. So they bought

1265
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 5: the Browns at six and a half. They bought the

1266
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 5: Browns again at six it's back down to five and

1267
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 5: a half. There's a lot of stuff that they like

1268
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 5: about betting the Browns. The Browns have not had an

1269
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 5: offensive line that was healthy this entire year. This weekend,

1270
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 5: they should be getting Jack Conklin back. That's huge for

1271
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 5: their offensive line. Nick Chubb should be back. I'm not

1272
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 5: saying Nick Chubb makes them a much more superior team,

1273
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 5: but it does give them an opportunity to start playing

1274
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 5: a little bit more, like Kevin Stefanski wants to play

1275
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 5: these games and take the ball out of Shaun Watson's hands.

1276
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 5: At the very least, maybe Deshaun Watson won't be staring

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Speaker 5: at the pass rush because he won't be so afraid

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Speaker 5: because Jack Conklin is playing again. So I do like

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Speaker 5: that that is happening. There's some good health things on

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Speaker 5: the offense side of the ball, and their defense is

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Speaker 5: getting healthier too. And you got a top five pass

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Speaker 5: rush defense, you got Miles Garrett in a divisional game.

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Speaker 5: In this situation with the Bengals team, that still isn't

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Speaker 5: that good, right? They shouldn't be a five and a

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Speaker 5: half point favorite, it's terrible. Well, you don't want to

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Speaker 5: bet the bad quarterback against one of the best quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: I'm not asking you to do it. I'm just telling

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Speaker 4: you what the professionals are doing.

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Speaker 1: So are you saying the wise guys like Kansas City

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Speaker 1: plus one and a half against San Francisco completely split?

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Speaker 5: It is like you have the guys who are just

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Speaker 5: like you who refuse to bet against Patrick Mahomes. In fact,

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Speaker 5: they would rather take their shot and bet on Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: They don't want to be watching the end of the

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Speaker 5: game and seeing Patrick Mahomes have the ball and know

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Speaker 5: they should have bet on him and have not bet

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Speaker 5: on him. But what's been interesting is the Chiefs are

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Speaker 5: a very public road underdog. That is not a great

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Speaker 5: situation to be on the side of. If you're a professional,

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Speaker 5: if you're a better right, you want to be against

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Speaker 5: the public in most situations. This number has been kind

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Speaker 5: of staying at one and a half, which tells you

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Speaker 5: that the wise guys have been coming in on the Niners.

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Speaker 5: So if they're closing their eyes looking at rosters, looking

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Speaker 5: at data, they're betting the Niners. If they're eyes wide

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Speaker 5: open seeing who's on the field they're betting the chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Chad Millman, Sharper Square CEO, Action Network. All odds provided

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Speaker 1: by DraftKings. As always, my friend, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Great to see you buddy the volume.

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