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Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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Speaker 1: room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within

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Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, January eighteenth, twenty twenty four, and we

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Speaker 2: are ninety eight days away from the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller Lyte. Here

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Speaker 2: from the SWBC studios at the Star and Frisco. Nick

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Speaker 2: Harris Brian brought us Aisha Morrison, Zach Wilchuck Chris Bean

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Speaker 2: in the back of Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: How's everybody doing today? Read a roll man d to roll.

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Speaker 2: We'll be crazy today where a little bit early got

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Speaker 2: pushed up an hour because Mike McCarthy comes on at

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock and then and then we'll be back at

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Speaker 2: our normal time. Tuesdays and Thursdays from here on out

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Speaker 2: is when you can hear the Draft Show. Eleven am

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Speaker 2: Central Time is when we will stream live.

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Speaker 4: So yes, sir, two more extra hours of sleep boom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not nine am for well you have to get

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Speaker 2: up for ten am for talking on Tuesdays.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just one day.

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Speaker 5: I can do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make it away, right, we can look.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of it. He's a you're a night out.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big sleep guy.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't get used to it because you got draft

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Speaker 2: stuff to watch, you got film to watch. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the fallout or I don't even know

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Speaker 2: fallouts to write words specifically, but just move on.

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Speaker 3: Just reaction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike McCarthy is staying as your head coach. Jerry

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Speaker 2: Jones put out a statement yesterday saying that he believes

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Speaker 2: that the future is bright with Mike McCarthy as the

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Speaker 2: head coach. He feels like he's close and Brian, I

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Speaker 2: think it does affect the draft significantly because of the

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Speaker 2: relationship that he's had with the personnel department.

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Speaker 3: No, and they do.

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Speaker 6: And you know, these the personal departments job to do

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Speaker 6: is to work with every coach and to work with

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Speaker 6: especially the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy came from a.

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Speaker 6: Program, you know, four years ago where in Green Bay,

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Speaker 6: Ted Thompson and the scouts really did the job for

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Speaker 6: him as far as picking players. So Mike's in a

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Speaker 6: new and he's learning, he's learning that he's going to

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Speaker 6: have a say every head coach I've ever worked with

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Speaker 6: here has had that opportunity. Whether you want it or not,

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Speaker 6: you're going to have a say in personnel. So you know,

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Speaker 6: Mike coming back, there's your continuity there. The questions we

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Speaker 6: with him doing interviews, and so if Dan were to

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Speaker 6: come back, well then there's your continuity. Scouts understand what

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Speaker 6: they have to do. If there's a change there or

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Speaker 6: for the scouting department. But everything else leading up to that,

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Speaker 6: with McCarthy being being uh, you know, continuing on his

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Speaker 6: to be status quo. But they do need to figure

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Speaker 6: that they've done before. Scheme wise, I mean, I've gone

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Speaker 6: In this day and age, everybody's able to kind of

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Speaker 7: I'm here for decoration right now. In regards to this conversation,

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Speaker 7: I hope can y'all hear me, Oh yeah, okay, I

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Speaker 7: But in regards to Mike McCarthy, you know, coming back,

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Speaker 7: I do think it is easy to forget that this

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Speaker 7: and there's you know, some maybe some kinks and stuff

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Speaker 7: how he attacks. I mean, we heard we talked about

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Speaker 7: returning to me right now, I thought it was the

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Speaker 7: better decision to make, you know, for your team to

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Speaker 7: move forward and hopefully again I hope they can pull

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Speaker 8: Yeah, as it pertains to the drafts, we talked about

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Speaker 8: it yesterday. Whether it's a first year guy coming in

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Speaker 8: gonna be pressure on.

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Speaker 5: This draft class.

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Speaker 8: I think, regardless, they have to go out and prove

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Speaker 8: I was actually we were talking about how bad the

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty three draft class was yesterday.

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Speaker 4: ESPN put out an article yesterday ranking all the draft class.

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Speaker 4: Thirty one Cowboys were thirty two flat last and it

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Speaker 4: was it was by a large margin. So there's going

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Speaker 8: I think you have to go in. You got to

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Speaker 8: number one, just based on you know, Mazzie Smith and

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Speaker 8: what happened last year. But also you have to be

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Speaker 4: Momentum in those areas as well.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you got to bounce back in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 8: and I think that's a I think there's pressure on

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Speaker 9: I feel confident that they'll do that, right. I mean,

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Speaker 9: this is a team that usually they're up in the

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Speaker 9: top ten when we're looking at these lists every year

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Speaker 9: in terms of getting production from your draft class, so

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Speaker 9: you know every team's going to have a bad one.

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Speaker 9: This team just has so much pressure because of how

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Speaker 9: they team build. Everything's really through the draft, right, So

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Speaker 9: I mean this year, I think that a lot of

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Speaker 9: probably be in those middle rounds. The problem is they

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Speaker 9: they traded. Yeah, they traded to go get Cooks. They

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Speaker 9: trade to go get Gilmour. They moved up. We talked

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Speaker 9: about that yesterday with Eric Scott. So the comp picks,

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Speaker 7: That's what I was going to ask. Are there some

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Speaker 7: comp picks that you maybe should get hope.

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Speaker 3: You're going to get us six? Yeah, they're hope for sure,

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Speaker 3: they're hopeful for two.

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Speaker 6: Six's best case scenario would be a five six And

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Speaker 2: So because it would be for Connor mc govern and

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, this is certainly for another day, But

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Speaker 9: then are you looking at maybe does this team try

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Speaker 6: I always feel like in a draft, you can you

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Speaker 6: we've seen there's ways to manipulate the draft in order

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Speaker 2: And I talked about this a little bit on Talking

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if they'll keep McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: forward because you can't just run this back. You can

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Speaker 2: same asn't. So my question to you guys now is

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Speaker 2: that plan be for you guys? Where would you start

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Speaker 2: seeing the planet that you beef up the offensive line? Zach,

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Speaker 2: you talked about getting bigger just in general. Is that

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Speaker 2: a considerable effort, because now, if you're not going to

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Speaker 2: change the head coach, you got to make a change somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I think it comes in roster building.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think getting bigger is more specific for the

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Speaker 9: defensive side of the football. But what do we hear

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Speaker 9: Mike talk about this time last year? He wants to

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Speaker 9: run the football? Yeah, he wants the identity of this

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Speaker 9: team to be a run first team. Unfortunately, regardless and

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Speaker 9: if it was personnel, if it was scheme, they were

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Speaker 9: what you're doing. First, you're going to the drawing board

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Speaker 9: and you're saying, okay, and this is also going to

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Speaker 9: So I mean that's being optimistic right there. Dak Prescott

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Speaker 9: gonna finish runner up to Lamar Jackson, and they had

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Speaker 9: no consistent running game. If you're able to do that,

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Speaker 9: how much of a more of a consistent step and

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Speaker 9: a better step can this offense take? So if I'm McCarthy,

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Speaker 9: I'm getting with Mike Solauri, I'm looking kind of where

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Speaker 9: possibly you know Tyron is, do you want to bring

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Speaker 9: him back, do we want to draft a center? I

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Speaker 9: think center probably is the one position that you can

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Speaker 9: go ahead and change.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw a good one last night that Jackson

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Speaker 6: power Johnson from Oregon Holy cheeze.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean hey, and.

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Speaker 6: We talked about Barton from from Duke as well, But man,

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Speaker 6: I know one thing that powers Johnson when you watched

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Speaker 6: him play there was, you know, and Oregon throws the ball,

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Speaker 6: but you talk about his handle, his area and then

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Speaker 6: get to the second level and play. I do think

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Speaker 6: in the running game it's it's really and and you know,

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Speaker 6: I feel bad for Pollard. They didn't particularly lockwell at center.

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Speaker 6: They weren't particularly good at point of attack, tied end.

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Speaker 6: And this goes back to Schoonmaker. And maybe Schoonmaker gets better,

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Speaker 6: and works on those things.

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Speaker 3: But we kind of I know, I.

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Speaker 6: Thought that he would help in the running game, but

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Speaker 6: they've got to do something thinking about the back and

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Speaker 6: you know, and skip Pete even on the way out

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Speaker 6: of here, told us that that Pollard as the featured

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Speaker 6: guy is not the not the answer here, that you

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Speaker 6: need kind of a complimentary piece to him. So I

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Speaker 6: think if the areas you look at is the center,

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Speaker 5: Y'all said it already.

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Speaker 6: Well, he could lose his job, but he could also

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Speaker 6: But I mean, if you, if you give me somebody,

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Speaker 4: Ask the question, see if he answers the right way.

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Speaker 7: For me, I'm hoping that there's some consistency and the

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Speaker 9: Confused on that area. And it's also one that we

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Speaker 9: I don't quite I'm not as strong with my personnel

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Speaker 9: But I kind of like this team to feel so

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Speaker 9: We're gonna line up and we're gonna play our game

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Speaker 7: And that's what I mean. It's like the sometimes that

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Speaker 7: teams know that, homie. They get your injury report too,

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Speaker 7: they got back up offensive linemen in, They're probably not

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Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of a self reflection.

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Speaker 4: Elementary tracking that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's I guess that's what I'm trying.

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Speaker 2: was our game plan the whole time. Yeah, the stubborn

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Speaker 3: We backed out of it.

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Speaker 2: We maybe backed off the way that we shouldn't have,

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Speaker 3: Go back to playing man? Did what worked for you

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Speaker 2: You got to find maybe accountability within your staff and

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Speaker 7: It's a therapy session, it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. All right.

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Speaker 2: We want to get to some names here real quickly

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Speaker 3: Maybe add to this team.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say necessarily first or SEC, because I think

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna let y'all go further.

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Speaker 9: There's a ton of good receipver.

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Speaker 3: He looks like she's ready to.

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Speaker 4: I got one, go for it.

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Speaker 3: Who's your person?

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Speaker 7: Listen?

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Speaker 4: Okay, don't don't get don't don't make fun of me.

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna take it. Because you mentioned tight end

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Speaker 10: Uh huh.

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Speaker 7: He's six three, two thirty nine. When I wrote down,

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Speaker 7: And you know what's insane is like I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 4: That versatility to him.

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Speaker 7: But it's the truth. It's the truth. But I was

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Speaker 4: He's just big.

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Speaker 4: And I just like his game. I like his game.

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Speaker 9: that is different from what this team currently has. Xavier Lagette,

441
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Speaker 9: the wide receiver from South Carolina six three two twenty seven,

442
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 9: kind of has a similar build to like an AJ Brown.

443
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Speaker 9: When you watch him, You're won the game Cocks Toughness

444
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Speaker 9: Aware Award in twenty twenty two. So he played South Carolina.

445
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 9: You know, he's a special teams guy. Set a school

446
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Speaker 9: record with about thirty yard average per kick return, so

447
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 9: he can impact the return game as well. He's powerful,

448
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 9: big lower body, thick leg, strong, physical breakaway speed to

449
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Speaker 9: pull away from defenders. I think he can block on

450
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Speaker 9: the edge really good. After the catch, He's got long speed,

451
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Speaker 9: tremendous athletic ability. You can throw the ball to him

452
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Speaker 9: on tunnel screen, so hell take it up field. So

453
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Speaker 9: you know, I think his footwork could improve a little

454
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Speaker 9: bit off the line of scrimmage to be able to

455
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Speaker 9: win against some craftied corners. But he's an interesting player

456
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Speaker 9: that's a little bit different from what you have in

457
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Speaker 9: that current receiver room.

458
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the guy. And I was worried.

459
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Speaker 8: You came very close to taking the guy, but I'm

460
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Speaker 8: staying at Florida State. I'm going with Johnny Wilson. Oh,

461
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Speaker 8: so this is this is an.

462
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Speaker 2: Interesting sounds like a Nick Harris prototype.

463
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Speaker 3: A big fan of lip Key.

464
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Speaker 2: Ye little bit A couple guys like the little big type,

465
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Speaker 2: but I like that.

466
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Speaker 8: So Johnny Wilson, he's a guy that's going to be

467
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Speaker 8: a type type hybrid.

468
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Speaker 4: It depends on whatever team drafts him, what.

469
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Speaker 8: They want to do with him. What would you do

470
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Speaker 8: six ft seven, two hundred and thirty seven pounds. I

471
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Speaker 8: would bring him in the building and work him out

472
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Speaker 8: a lot of areas and training camp.

473
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Speaker 4: And figure it out.

474
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Speaker 8: That's what I would do six six foot seven, so

475
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Speaker 8: that they line him up. Yeah, they line him up

476
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Speaker 8: out wide and he had four hundred and eighty nine

477
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Speaker 8: snaps lining up out Why this year only fifty lined

478
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Speaker 8: up in line. So they love to throw it up

479
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 8: to him and man, can he can he go up

480
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Speaker 8: and grab it? You have a Jahim Bell that's a

481
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Speaker 8: six foot three type tight end and they're comfortable with that.

482
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Speaker 4: I think that speaks more to what Bell can do.

483
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Speaker 8: Actually, but you Loick Wilson does as well on the outside,

484
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Speaker 8: being able to line up on either boundary and be

485
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Speaker 8: able to do what he does. It's pretty impressive if

486
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Speaker 8: you went to Calabasas High School there in North LA,

487
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Speaker 8: so you know he comes from a little but anything

488
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Speaker 8: anything you can look at when you see from Johnny Wilson,

489
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Speaker 8: it's it's really impressive. He's if you're looking for a

490
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Speaker 8: red zone guy, he is mister red zone guy in

491
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Speaker 8: this draft. I'm one thousand percent just throw it up

492
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Speaker 8: to him, receiver receiver. I mean you you line him

493
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Speaker 8: up at a receiver, figure him out a tight end. The

494
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Speaker 8: thing that I'm going to be looking at the most

495
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Speaker 8: from him, though, is when the combine happens. I think

496
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Speaker 8: he's going to shocks and people at the combine. I

497
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Speaker 8: think he's gonna lay down a sub four four five Yeah, yeah,

498
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 8: he's he can roll.

499
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: So if he lays down, he.

500
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Speaker 9: Looked like run into a long strider forty.

501
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 4: He's a very long strider.

502
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Speaker 8: If he can lay down a time like that, he's

503
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Speaker 8: gonna sneak into the second round. I think I think

504
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 8: that would obviously hurt Cowboys chances, But I think right now,

505
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Speaker 8: this is the third round guy that I think you

506
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,159
Speaker 8: could possibly target if you were looking for, you know,

507
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Speaker 8: that big body type receiver.

508
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,239
Speaker 4: You're not gonna find a bigger body than this one.

509
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Speaker 3: Kenny Block.

510
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Speaker 8: See, there's not a lot of tape on that because

511
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 8: he's he's more so on the boundary. But there are

512
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 8: plays where they're running Tray Benson out to the to

513
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Speaker 8: the wide set and and he's he's out there doing

514
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Speaker 8: his things.

515
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Speaker 4: So, uh, what kind of scene.

516
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Speaker 10: Man.

517
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Speaker 8: He's gonna be a fun project for whoever drafts him.

518
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 8: I think again it's a training camp type project. But

519
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 8: one thing for certain, you could throw it up to

520
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 8: him inside the twenty and he's gonna come down and

521
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Speaker 8: grab it.

522
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Speaker 3: I like it.

523
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Speaker 7: I feel like I jinxedus. Listen if Sam Fran gets

524
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 7: Shahiem Bell, Oh.

525
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Speaker 9: No, please, you can manifest talk about that. I wouldn't

526
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 9: mind it yet. I'd love it if the Awboys rafter

527
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 9: Jeem Bell, they can do a lot with him.

528
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think, Brian?

529
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 7: Have you watched him?

530
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 6: No?

531
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Speaker 3: I have not, Okay, I can't wait.

532
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I did watch a guy.

533
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 6: If you're going to trade.

534
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: Back in this draft in the first round, if you

535
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: want to pick up a third round pick, you know,

536
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: maybe dance back a little bit.

537
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give you an offensive tackle that I looked

538
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 6: at last night.

539
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 3: Jordan Morgan from Arizona.

540
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 6: And the reason I say this because I think Morgan

541
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 6: could play guard, but I think he could play tackle

542
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 6: if you want to keep if something happens where you

543
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 6: move on from Tyron Smith.

544
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: There Jordan Morgan to me, he's starting left tackle for

545
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: the Walkcat.

546
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, he wears number seventy seven,

547
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 6: and there's things that he does that reminds me of

548
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith. He's six five, he's three hundred and twenty

549
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 6: five pounds, and there is no wasted motion or movement

550
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 6: in his game at all. I mean, this guy gets

551
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 6: away from the line, well, he strikes you right off

552
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 6: the set.

553
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: He carries his hands, he tends to carry.

554
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 6: Him a little low, but then all of a sudden,

555
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 6: man there there boom and then the spot and stopping

556
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 6: his guy. He's got some rare change of direction to

557
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 6: his game. He never appears off balance or out of position.

558
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 6: Uh swift, the lateral bursts, the movement, great job of

559
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 6: staying in position.

560
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: This is one of those guys I kind.

561
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Speaker 6: Of feel like though that if you you move back

562
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 6: in the draft, and maybe some people will like him

563
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 6: more than some others, because I know there's some people

564
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 6: that are projecting some of these other tackles, like our

565
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 6: guy from our guy from a Guidon from Oklahoma.

566
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: I've seen him.

567
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 6: Kind of in some mock drafts, being Tyler Guidon from

568
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 6: Oklahoma TCU transfer Yeah give.

569
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Speaker 4: Me was one of the most difficult kids to cover

570
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: high Yeah give me.

571
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Speaker 6: Yeah give me Morgan over Geydon all day, all day.

572
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 6: And I know there are people that have, like I said,

573
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 6: they've seen some mock drafts. But Jordan Morgan is a

574
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Speaker 6: guy that you're gonna you're you're gonna learn about him.

575
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 6: And I hope that you see what I see in this.

576
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Speaker 4: Kid, Jordan Morgan. He's a senior Bowl guy. I'll be

577
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: looking out for him.

578
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, please do he may he may. I think he is.

579
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: He is is. I mean he is. His technique sound

580
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 3: perfect in.

581
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 6: The way he sets, and you know I talk about

582
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 6: Tyron Tyron Smith sets and he could still just yeah,

583
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 6: And maybe it's because a kid wears seventy seven.

584
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 3: It just kind of makes my eye look right the

585
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 3: right way.

586
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 9: Hey, he played in the PAC twelve.

587
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: It's one last offensive tackle from the PAC twelve.

588
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: But I tell you what I love that center. I

589
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 3: love that center from Oregon. By the way. Yeah, if

590
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: you're if that, it's gonna it's gonna be close close.

591
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: His name is Powers.

592
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

593
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 4: Pretty okay, a little bit more context Johnson.

594
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 8: I mentioned it yesterday, but he's played four of the

595
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Speaker 8: five offensive line positions up front for Oregon in the

596
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 8: last two seasons.

597
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: Go back to the twenty twenty one Alamobile.

598
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 8: They had a lot of defensive linemen that had entered

599
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 8: the portal or had already declared early for the NFL Draft.

600
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 8: They're playing Oklahoma and the Alamobile he flips over to

601
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 8: defensive tackle and gets three tackles in that game. Was

602
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 8: a huge run stopper for them. It comes from a

603
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 8: Corner Canyon High School in Draper, Utah. There's only two

604
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 8: high schools in Utah that put out talent. That's one

605
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 8: of them. That's where the Wilson brothers, when Zach Wilson

606
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 8: and his brother Isaac, they put out a ton of

607
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 8: talent and they've they've been known for putting out.

608
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: Offensive line talents.

609
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 8: This guy's mean, you can do a lot of things.

610
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: And Barton from those are mean guys.

611
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Speaker 9: Barton is for sure.

612
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 8: Tell me about with powers Johnson is he puts power.

613
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 8: He puts so much power in front. Sometimes he leaves

614
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Speaker 8: his feet. He's gonna get thrown down a couple of

615
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 8: times in training camp. He's been like, Okay, I can

616
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Speaker 8: do that here. But I think that'll be I think

617
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Speaker 8: that'll be a little bit of a learning Yeah, him

618
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Speaker 8: over here.

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Speaker 7: I thought, well, first of all, when you talking about

620
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Speaker 7: Jordan Morgan, I was dying laughing when I went and

621
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Speaker 7: looked at his picture because I said, Terry Steele, okay.

622
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: But college photos look especially similar.

623
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Speaker 7: They're very similar. I looked up the fact that we're

624
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Speaker 7: talking about multiple sport athletes. He used to do shot put,

625
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 7: and when you look at how he plays and stuff,

626
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 7: I actually just went to look at what shotput requires

627
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Speaker 7: from a person, and it requires you to have proper technique, strength, power,

628
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 7: speed and rhythm. You see that a lot in his play.

629
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Speaker 7: And when you bring up the fact that he does

630
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Speaker 7: things like tiring, I actually think that if he was

631
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 7: earlier in his anchor, he would be even filthier. Sometimes

632
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 7: he is kind of I don't know. I think he

633
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 7: trusts his recover a little too much.

634
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Speaker 3: He carries his hands so low.

635
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Speaker 6: Yes, that like if you got him right there, you're

636
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 6: kind of ready for that. But he'll kind of weigh

637
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Speaker 6: in that guy and then it's like he baits you

638
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Speaker 6: in and then it's.

639
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640
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 7: hands on you, it's pretty dead in the water.

641
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642
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Speaker 2: athletes in the past. He really likes the fact that

643
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Speaker 2: he has two sport athletes in these feet, especially on

644
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Speaker 2: Back here on the Draft Show presented by Miller Light.

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Speaker 2: It's time now, and we don't have the sounder unfortunately today.

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Speaker 2: We'll have it back next week, I promise, so Zach

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Speaker 9: Some Twitter on the twenty Twentytty good. It's good, I

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Speaker 3: Blow through this real quick.

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Speaker 2: All right, there are some mood questions. The first one

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Speaker 2: this year, the position groups across the board feel wide open?

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Speaker 2: Says uh, is this Rico Swabe? Oh no, no, no, it's

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Speaker 2: Raina tweets this in says position groups and position opens

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Speaker 2: are wide open. Do you feel like it's more wide

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Speaker 2: open than years past in terms of where these positions

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Speaker 2: rank across the board in the NFL draft class.

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Speaker 8: I don't know as far as comparing it to years past,

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Speaker 8: but I will say there is quite a I think

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Speaker 8: the jury still out on what even like the top

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Speaker 8: five position groups would be. I think we're going to

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Speaker 8: get a lot of certainty out of out of these

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Speaker 8: Bowl games here in the next couple of weeks, though.

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Speaker 2: You think it always plays a factor these All Star

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Speaker 2: games as much as absolutely?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think when it's you see the good on

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Speaker 6: good competition, and you also see you have hands on

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Speaker 6: and then you'll see you'll see the competitive guys out there.

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Speaker 3: You go to the Senior Bowl. The practices.

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Speaker 6: One of the greatest Senior Bowl practices I ever was

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Speaker 6: is Zach Martin, you know, Aaron Donald going at it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you stood there and watched those one on

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Speaker 6: ones and you could have drafted both those players off

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Speaker 6: just that one off, one on one drill right there.

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Speaker 6: So those bowl games mean a lot to a lot

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Speaker 6: of these scouts.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I do think that this is a special offensive

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Speaker 9: tackle class compared to years past. It is really deep,

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Speaker 9: and I think the top two guys for sure Fashanu

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Speaker 9: from Penn State and Alt in Notre Dame. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I think teams are going to alternate, like which one

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Speaker 9: do they see as the better one? I think yeah,

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Speaker 9: al for Joe Alt. I think Joe Alt might have

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Speaker 9: the more upside and potential. I don't think he's quite

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Speaker 9: a finished product. I think Lufashanu might be, like I

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Speaker 9: think you know what you're getting out of him, but

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Speaker 9: he's a dude that didn't allow a single sack and

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Speaker 9: the last two years there at Penn State. I also

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Speaker 9: think the wide receiver class is better than it was

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Speaker 9: a year ago. And we've kind of been talking about it,

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Speaker 9: like are we in the golden age of wide receivers

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Speaker 9: right now in the draft, But this year's kind of

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Speaker 9: more what I think most scouts, as we talked about

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Speaker 9: a our customers too, better are different. I think it's

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Speaker 9: I think it's better personally, I think it's deeper. I

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Speaker 9: mean it is different for sure, because we were talking

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Speaker 9: like the tank Dell's, the Za Flowers, I mean, Brian.

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Speaker 9: During the whole process, we're like, we got to train

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Speaker 9: our eyes, like we got to be more open minded

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Speaker 9: to having some of these smaller guys doesn't mean they're

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Speaker 9: not going to be productive. Those two guys certainly showed

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Speaker 9: that in their rookie year. But this year, I think

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Speaker 9: you've got more of your natural, taller, longer builded wide receivers.

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Speaker 9: But those are the two groups that I think have

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Speaker 9: really impressed me that are deep, Like I mean, you've

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Speaker 9: got five to ten in that offensive tackle wide receiver

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Speaker 9: range that you're like, man, I feel really great about

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Speaker 9: these guys that I'm watching right now.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, last year in the receiver class, you had the deer,

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Speaker 8: and this year you have the Gaels.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's a lot the deer in the gazelle.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean even so when you look at the

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Speaker 7: you know, obviously this is my second year, so it

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Speaker 7: was just like looking at the difference and even what

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Speaker 7: is available running back, It's like, yeah, dog, like this

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Speaker 7: is not what last year was at all, and even

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Speaker 7: a linebacker is like, I mean, this guy's it's like

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Speaker 7: maybe five ten guys that I'm like, Okay, these guys

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Speaker 7: can really go out there and they can be ready.

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Speaker 7: But it's just it's it's changing. It's interesting to see

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Speaker 7: how much has changed.

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Speaker 4: This next season.

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Speaker 3: EJ. Savage says, what position, by the way, quarterback? Oh,

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Speaker 3: I think, oh yeah, I think quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a good quarterback class. I really don't.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a little top heavy though. I think

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Speaker 8: you have the guys at the top that are really

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Speaker 8: solid and really good. But once you lie in the

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Speaker 8: middle rounds, I'm a little.

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Speaker 6: I've been a drafting before where there's one quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: if that's fair, If you give me five quarterbacks to look.

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Speaker 2: At that that's the thing is if you can get

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Speaker 2: six or seven drafted quarterbacks that have a chance to play,

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Speaker 2: that's a good class.

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Speaker 3: And I think this class has six or seven like that.

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Speaker 10: E J.

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Speaker 2: Savage says, what position, separate of need pushes the neat

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Speaker 2: needle the most for the Dallas Cowboys, which one would

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Speaker 2: move the needle the most back and forth? I guess

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Speaker 2: you could say quarterback. But that wouldn't necessarily happen immediately.

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Speaker 2: That would happen down the road. So he's had a

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Speaker 2: side from positions, says separate of need, but just in general,

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Speaker 2: what position group would would move the needle for you.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're doing anything at quarterback because of Lance. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: they made their deal on.

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Speaker 2: They spin a fourth round pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's Lance. That's you're not going to draft

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Speaker 3: a quarterback. H No. But moving the needle though without

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Speaker 3: the need because we.

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Speaker 4: Did I would say receiver.

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Speaker 8: I would say receiver getting a big bodied receiver, I

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Speaker 8: mean because of how good I mean technically, it is

802
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Speaker 8: a need, but I don't think that's one of the

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Speaker 8: top four positions we're looking at whenever we look at

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Speaker 8: needs in this draft.

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Speaker 4: But they go and get a big edge. Yeah, like

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Speaker 4: a really outage but like also really physical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. Corner maybe, I mean you bring some

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Speaker 3: depth to corner.

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Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmour specific if he's not healthy going into it,

810
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Speaker 2: do you want to keep him around.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis is coming out too, So one thing we've

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Speaker 3: proven here is corner.

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Speaker 6: A guy coming off injury needs to about week nine

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Speaker 6: before he starts yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say tight end another one.

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Speaker 3: You always like the tight end.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying tit. Obviously, I think you need someone to

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Speaker 7: consistently pair with ferg that's gonna help you in the

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Speaker 7: passing game. I don't know if Spoon is gonna develop

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Speaker 7: to that. Maybe he can, like that's whatever, But with

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Speaker 7: John Stevens, we don't know what he's gonna be like

822
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Speaker 7: coming back from Aco. Also to what happens with Peyton Hendershot.

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Speaker 7: I do think that maybe outside of that, you can

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Speaker 7: look at tight end and see if you can get

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Speaker 7: something there that's a receiving threat but also can help

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Speaker 7: you on the run game.

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Speaker 3: There's freak shows.

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Speaker 9: I mean Jatavian Sanders obviously we know well went to

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Speaker 9: Dent and Ryan here locally. Kate Stover I ended up

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Speaker 9: watching last year. He went back. That's another big bodied

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Speaker 9: receiver that can block in line that also is going

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Speaker 9: to catch in the football. But safety, for me, every

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Speaker 9: safety that I've watched so far pretty solid. Kinchins from Miami.

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Speaker 9: Tyler Nuban is a guy that thought about coming out

835
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Speaker 9: last year that I saw. Really watched him again the

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Speaker 9: other night out of Minnesota. Really good player like him

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Speaker 9: a lot. Yeah, safety, And then I talked about Javon

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Speaker 9: Bullard from Georgia. Who's my guy? You know? So I think?

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Speaker 9: And hey, Curse is a free eight. Uh you know

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Speaker 9: Malik Hooker. Do you want to move Bell back to

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Speaker 9: safety if you don't need him as a linebacker, but

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Speaker 9: it'd be interesting. I think there's some talent of the

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Speaker 9: safety class this year in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Well, and does the safety prototype change for this team

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Speaker 2: if dan Quinn's not your defensive coordinator very well?

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Speaker 4: Could absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, just.

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Speaker 8: With how many dbs that they like to run, the

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Speaker 8: hybrid roles that they try to have, because if you

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Speaker 8: have a if you have dan Quinn in the building,

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Speaker 8: then you're looking at, you know, a day two, day

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Speaker 8: three guy like Jalen Simpson out of Auburn who has

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Speaker 8: that hybrid ability. And if not, then maybe you're looking

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Speaker 8: for that true safety type ability, a guy like Tyler Newban.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he would have to be a second round

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Speaker 4: Tye guy.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's the best run defender

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Speaker 4: dB in this class.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, best combo and he can also cover.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's really really strong and Ryer right.

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Speaker 3: Off the Yeah boom you well, I haven't seen him yet. No,

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Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Well, Chuck, like he texts me at all weird hours

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Speaker 6: of the night like, Hey, I'm watching this Minnesota kid man.

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Speaker 3: I think he's great. And that's all he says. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's just like it's just like it random thoughts. I

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Speaker 3: love that. That's what that's what draft seasons at all about.

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Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. All Right.

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Speaker 6: You watched the USC kid Bullock not a big fan,

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Speaker 6: and that was at one exactly Eastern time.

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Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, I'm gonna keep Twitter

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Speaker 2: on the Twitter, going tweet Twitter on the twenty going

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Speaker 2: there you go, thank you got it, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going to merge a bunch of questions.

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Speaker 2: Would you trade back if you're the Dallas Cowboys from

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Speaker 2: twenty four more Draft show right after this, all.

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Speaker 13: Right, Drew Pearson, former Day now Pro Football Hall of Famer. Here,

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