WEBVTT - High-Flying Nectarines with Jay Martel

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<v Speaker 1>This is great as Escapes, a show bringing you the

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<v Speaker 1>wildest true escape stories of all time. Now, in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we're headed to Paris, you guys, for a bonker's jail

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<v Speaker 1>break by a French gangster who declared on society. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Marto Castro and I'm here with a wizard of the

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<v Speaker 1>comedy world, my dear friend, and a man absolutely obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with short short pants, Jay Martel. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I'm joined by Jane Martel. Yes. I gotta tell

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<v Speaker 1>the audience that Jay catfished me in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>when we we we sat for an interview for the

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<v Speaker 1>head writer position of Alternatino, and Jay showed up into

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<v Speaker 1>like a button down and like these nice pants, and

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<v Speaker 1>then yes, and then I never saw him wear pants ever. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay always showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a this is a cultural language thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I wore pants to the office. They were just short pants,

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<v Speaker 2>but in your mind they were so short and Guatemala,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they don't call short pants pants.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, listen, we do not show another man or thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we'm in business and you really and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just throwing them out there in your face every

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<v Speaker 1>day for free. I always say that Jay, like always

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he just smits his flight, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like he's in the Atlanta airport. He fucking

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<v Speaker 1>had to go get that neck pillow and his fucking

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<v Speaker 1>left him. He's just looking around, looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Like always a little like rumbled a little just enough?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you ready for a little escaping, Yes, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>So today instead of a cell block, we're gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>on a launch pad. Ooh, and the year is nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, which is the year I was born. Great

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<v Speaker 1>year for babies, Am I right?

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<v Speaker 2>Jay?

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<v Speaker 1>It was so fantastic? Okay? And we're in Ansei in

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<v Speaker 1>the Alps of southern France. Now, a woman, Lena Ruigon

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<v Speaker 1>has started taking helicopter lessons from a guy named Ghi,

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<v Speaker 1>a flight instructor at a local airport. Now, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think anything of it, except that he noticed that she

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<v Speaker 1>showed great commitment to learning. So in fact, she booked

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel by the airport for a whole month, and

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<v Speaker 1>she spent two or three hours every day practicing in

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<v Speaker 1>the air with her instructor. As her teacher, monsieur GhIE

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<v Speaker 1>felt like he was getting to know her pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>For him. That apparently means remembering that she was blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>I love giving it, like, yes, I know everything about her.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a blonde, so is it. Yeah. So that

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<v Speaker 1>September she took her flying exam and she passed with

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<v Speaker 1>flying colors. Wow. Nice, And she got a fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>out of sixty required points, which I guess is enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. This is such a French way of scoring,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. The rest of the world is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one hundred, and friends is like, I feel sixty

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<v Speaker 1>is fine, sixty is maxim.

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<v Speaker 2>You would be ahead of yeah, if you had any

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<v Speaker 2>moles in sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>This man is apparently close to death. This frenchman him

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<v Speaker 1>dying and right flying. It's a French pirate in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Jay that there was a sketch that we never

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<v Speaker 1>quite made work about a Frenchman who was unimpressed by

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<v Speaker 1>everything and called everything shit. Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was good. This is shit. And then a Robert

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<v Speaker 1>comes into the restaurant where he's at and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>this gun sees his ship and you know, he saves

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<v Speaker 1>the day. I wonder whe didn't let us do that,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because we didn't know how to fucking end the sketch,

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<v Speaker 1>or we sounded like pirates when we did, because they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, you are all dying pirates in this Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on? All right? So then Lena moved to Paris,

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<v Speaker 1>where she joined a flight club at an airport and

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<v Speaker 1>started flying some light utility helicopters. Okay, So Lena begins

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<v Speaker 1>renting a helicopter every two weeks, and she gets to

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<v Speaker 1>know the owner of the helicopter rental company, Claude. He

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<v Speaker 1>described her as a pretty little woman, the sportsman type,

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<v Speaker 1>which is probably French for not Kirby. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck that meant, Claude sportsman. So Claude said

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<v Speaker 1>that Lena took a liking to one helicopter, in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>she would come to his business twice a month and

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<v Speaker 1>rented for like three hundred dollars an hour. Claude didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know it at the time, but Lina was practicing one

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<v Speaker 1>very special skill, you guys, okay, hovering with the helicopter

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<v Speaker 1>just above the ground. On May twenty seven, nineteen eighty six,

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<v Speaker 1>Lena arrived with a friend, a man carrying a heavy

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<v Speaker 1>duffel bag. Somehow, this didn't raise any red flags for Claude.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, was he oblivious, a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 1>idiot perhaps, or maybe just very friendly? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what you do. Anyhow, he rented her

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<v Speaker 1>the helicopter as per usual. Now, obviously Claude didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what was in the bag, but today we do know

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<v Speaker 1>it was carrying Don Tonton a submachine gun. What And

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out Lena had been hiding her real identity.

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<v Speaker 1>Her real name was actually Nadine, and the day she'd

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<v Speaker 1>been training for was finally here. And when she took off,

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<v Speaker 1>she flew low. Soon the air traffic control lost contact

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<v Speaker 1>with her. The French air police try to get radio

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<v Speaker 1>response from a helicopter as it buzzed the rooftops, but

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<v Speaker 1>Nadine wasn't answering no, no. She was flying nineteen miles

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<v Speaker 1>from the airport to Lesson prison in Paris because she

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna bust her husband out of jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Now I see how it all tied

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<v Speaker 2>together with the theme of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, Yeah, okay, a sportsman, woman, dead pirates, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big bags, machine gun, flying low you know classic. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we take a moment and talk about the commitment it

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<v Speaker 1>took to do this, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>She must have really loved her husband. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm getting from this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, who the hell is her husband? Let's figure this out.

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<v Speaker 1>So his name was Michelle Vajoule. Right. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>gangster who had declared as a teenager that he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to wage war against society. You know, the revolution

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<v Speaker 1>remains strong in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's very common thing and teenagers, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in France. I imagine it's like, yeah, Bennett.

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<v Speaker 1>Down, they are incredibly good at striking in France. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not even a joke. Yeah, oh my god, there's good.

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<v Speaker 1>We could take a page out of their book for this.

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<v Speaker 2>If this was in France, I'd be striking right now

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<v Speaker 2>for better wages for podcast co hosts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's right. No, it was at getting paid. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna copymeal and credit tops. Oh my god, should strike too,

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<v Speaker 1>let's both strike all right? So who was Michelle? Was your?

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<v Speaker 1>To start with? He was an altar boy, no, like literally,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was a kid, his parents send him to

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<v Speaker 1>live in a boarding school run by a local priest. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>along with all the other church stuff, right, like guilt

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<v Speaker 1>guilt inducing chores or whatever. The priest taught Michelle how

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<v Speaker 1>to climb and shoot and run cross country. Bro, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this like a super alpha priest.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like this couple is like it's going to take

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<v Speaker 2>over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's a sportsman type with who flies helicopters,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like an all around athlete who shoots game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But also my priest like always sounded like that

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<v Speaker 1>French dying dude that you just did, you know, Like Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't even like, you know, walk properly. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know they were like priests that like did like rock climbing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if Jesus is at the top of that hill,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to climb that rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right on this mountain. I shaw build my church.

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<v Speaker 1>One person in the audience is gonna be oh he

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<v Speaker 1>studied Gothic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, you're going to get that one hardcore Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>podcast listener.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, thanks very much. But for Michelle, alter boy didn't

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<v Speaker 1>translate to being like a rule follower. Right when he

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<v Speaker 1>was nineteen, he started stealing cars whenever he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>take his girlfriend dancing. This fucking guy, Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>making us all look bad. Good for you, good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So usually they would leave the car in the same

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<v Speaker 1>place that they found it, but after a while they

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<v Speaker 1>started getting sloppy and just parked it right in front

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<v Speaker 1>of his apartment. So the next morning, Mihaw and his

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend were walking up by the sound of the police

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<v Speaker 1>banging on the front door.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor planning. Everyone knows you don't park a stolen car

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<v Speaker 2>in the air house.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you like? You've been stealing cars? Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a knock at your door, somebody says, police, What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think? What do you do? What's the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you do? Say? Like, I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I deserved to be taken off to prison

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<v Speaker 2>right now, because.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be your way. That would be get and by.

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<v Speaker 2>The way, and by the way, on pants, Let me

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<v Speaker 2>put on my pants right now before you take me

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<v Speaker 2>to prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's way would be like, and by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to confess to other crimes of myself and

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<v Speaker 1>other people. Yeah, cracking, cracking immediately. So I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what Michelle did. Right. He dove out of the bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>window to make his escape and left his girlfriend to

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<v Speaker 1>face the police alone. Fucked up, like leaving your girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>holding the battle totally French. Yeah right, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know that's friends. This guy's just like an early adopter

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<v Speaker 1>of the fuck boy nature. He's like, not my problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you even justify it to her later?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like hey, like I'm sorry. Like the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a loud sound outside. I want to I

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<v Speaker 1>was testing rock climbing.

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<v Speaker 2>Was actually going to go out it's a window and

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<v Speaker 2>get the stolen car and drive it to another location.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's a German Frenchman. Now, oh god, damn it.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I should practice my accents. You didn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me this was a French story.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to do Yeah, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need to use our own accents from now on. Day

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<v Speaker 1>that the European nations are up in arms.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're going to offend anyone by doing

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<v Speaker 2>bad accents.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's just so listen. So she confessed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle was caught, convicted, and he was put away for

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half years. Now, Michelle thought his punishment

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<v Speaker 1>was too harsh, and this is when he decided to

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<v Speaker 1>start his war against society. When he got out, Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested again for the crime of driving without a license,

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<v Speaker 1>and he ends up being convicted of ten robberies over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. To be honest, I do think it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I mean, I'm not advocating grand theft auto here,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seemed like he was just a dumb kid, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like most of the time he put the car away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's still really young now, right, he was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen the first time you got oh, oh god, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, there's just no yeah you could.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just crazy when you're nineteen, right, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about you, but oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a nut job at nineteen, and it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't gotten any better, no, no. But also like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like people that go in the system, it

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<v Speaker 1>like rehabilitates them in any country, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's when he got a really revolutionary with his crimes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but prison, you know, they couldn't hold him. They just

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<v Speaker 1>could not hold Michelle. Right. He made his first escape

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<v Speaker 1>when he joined the work crew of prisoners unloading trucks

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<v Speaker 1>of supplies. Right when he saw the chance, he bolted

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<v Speaker 1>through the cap between the truck and the gate, and

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<v Speaker 1>he made his way into the woods, where he dodged

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<v Speaker 1>the officers surging for him. Twice, he escaped by scaling

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<v Speaker 1>prison walls in nineteen seventy three in nineteen seventy four.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy three, Michelle and another prisoner pushed to

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<v Speaker 1>a weak area of the fence and climbed the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>where they realized there was a blind spot for the guards.

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<v Speaker 1>They went on a robbery spree until they got caught again.

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<v Speaker 1>What it was it with these people that can't just

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy their prison break, you know, They're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, it just shows you that I'm coming

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<v Speaker 2>from a different place. But I I always think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you get out of prison, just be cool for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, right, move to La put on in La

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<v Speaker 2>put on some shorts, fops maybe you know, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>just relax I But it's just like, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he's Michelle is really trying to prove a point, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's waging a war against society, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he was just like, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of this cage that you put me

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<v Speaker 2>in and just do some more damage to this thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I hate, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, right right right. So in nineteen seventy four, Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>shared a cell with a safebreaker name Jill gill zil.

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<v Speaker 1>Can the overlords of pronunciation please come in and tell

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<v Speaker 1>me how to pronounce his name. It is pronounced she

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<v Speaker 1>is pronounced gez g g so. In nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle shared a cell with a safe breaker named Jill,

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<v Speaker 1>who became his best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The pair used one of Jill's lock picking tricks to escape.

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<v Speaker 1>They collected the red wax from baby bell cheeses to

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<v Speaker 1>make an imprint of the key. Okay, Jay, your turn again.

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<v Speaker 1>You got some wax? How are you going to get

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<v Speaker 1>that print? I also, I'm sorry again French people, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is the most French way of making I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean the fact that they have baby bell cheeses like

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<v Speaker 2>in prisons, mean, you know what our prisoners would do

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<v Speaker 2>in this country do for one baby bell cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was not the canon beer week, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that way was. It's not. It's not as

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<v Speaker 1>easy to get an improve. It reminds me of like

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading about World War One recently, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons the French troops were doing so badly

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<v Speaker 2>is that they all drank. A leader of wine every

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<v Speaker 2>day like that was there. It was part of their ration.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot as opposed to the Germans and World War Two,

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<v Speaker 1>which were all hyped up on.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye. Well yeah, it was actually like both of those

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<v Speaker 2>world wars were like a study of olcohol versus speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Versus drug use. Yeah yeah, like speed, speed will always

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<v Speaker 1>win in a war. By the way, Yeah, we does

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<v Speaker 1>not do well in the war. It's everybody, what if

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are we doing? Guys, let's just show Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Man just fell out and you know, you just get

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<v Speaker 2>sloppy drunk on a bunch of red wine, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like if they put us in prison, we'll just be

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<v Speaker 2>eating cute little cheeses.

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<v Speaker 1>Great. So Michelle took the direct approach, so he and

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<v Speaker 1>Jill memorized which one was the right key by watching

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<v Speaker 1>their cell get unlocked every day, and once when they

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<v Speaker 1>were being put back into the cell, Michelle bumped the

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<v Speaker 1>guard and pressed his wax against the key. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>using a fiel and part of a hacksaw, Michelle and

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<v Speaker 1>Ghee were able to take a piece of iron, a

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<v Speaker 1>small piece of it, and duplicate the shape of the

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<v Speaker 1>key following the imprint of the wax and.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlock his fure. I'm beginning to thank this guy's a genius.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, could you bump into someone and make make

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<v Speaker 2>a whack impression of their key?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I can't confirm it legally. I can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>you if I have done that before or not. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is impressive. You know. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>you know, classic tales of like wow, if you had

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<v Speaker 1>just applied that genius to something else, like yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was. He was put on earth basically to

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<v Speaker 1>break out of prison. That's right, some people their job.

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<v Speaker 2>He evolved, like one hundred thousand years of human evolution

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<v Speaker 2>led to this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I can break out it anything, any single thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So in prison, after being arrested for another robbery, Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>held what one French newspaper called an intimate ritual of rebirth.

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<v Speaker 1>So he striped, naked, shaved, and used yoga to enter

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<v Speaker 1>a trance that would kill the mad dog in him.

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<v Speaker 1>And after that he gave up tobacco, radio, and even

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<v Speaker 1>his mattress. Right, so this guy was preparing for burning man.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not even know it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for what comes next because I know it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be about yoga.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. The fourth escape came in nineteen seventy nine during

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<v Speaker 1>a hearing for his crimes. Michelle had been in prison

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<v Speaker 1>for four years, and he had worked out a plan

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<v Speaker 1>right at the courthouse. During his hearing, Michelle took the

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<v Speaker 1>judge hostage at gunpoint. Jay, if we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>smuggle a gun into a hearing, where would you hide it? Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know, fuck it? No, nope, nope,

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<v Speaker 1>Well you ask so I know what. I just know.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this question was here and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know where he would hide it. In the in

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket of my shorts. Yeah, in his beautiful thigh

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<v Speaker 1>pocket that he always carries with him when it gets chilli.

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<v Speaker 1>You have one of those, like, you know those pants

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<v Speaker 1>that become shorts. What do they call them?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Sports?

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<v Speaker 2>No, uh no, that's something else. Convertible shorts, convertible shorts shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go with that and the convertible short people.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to promote your shit on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, me and Jay and the Catholic guy will

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<v Speaker 1>definitely buy yourself, will definitely zip those up. Michelle had

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<v Speaker 1>actually sewn a pocket inside his underwear and took the

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<v Speaker 1>gun out when he went to the bathroom before the

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<v Speaker 1>hearing started. Now, the thing is, the gun wasn't real.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a dummy carved out of soap and turned

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<v Speaker 1>black with shoe polish.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this is like take the money and

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<v Speaker 2>run a Woody all In movie where you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like this is such a cliche, And I love

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<v Speaker 2>that he can work in different mediums too. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>can branch out from wax into soap.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, from cheese, from cheese to show

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<v Speaker 1>to wax. This man does it all. It's all just

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<v Speaker 1>a means of escape. It's exactly now. Once he was out,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle reconnected with his old prison friend Ghee, the safe Breaker,

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<v Speaker 1>and he also met Gee's sister, Nadine. Huh I see

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<v Speaker 1>where this is going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nadine had also

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<v Speaker 1>been locked up on three separate times for things like

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<v Speaker 1>hiding stolen goods, so Michelle and Nadine were basically a

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<v Speaker 1>match for each other. They fell in love, and Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>started life with Nadine and her daughter. But that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>keep him out of trouble. No, no, yeah, nothing keeps

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<v Speaker 1>him down. You see. In this time behind bars, Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>had met a bunch of guys involved in organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>They reached him now that he was out again, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got hired to help with a bunch of armed robberies.

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<v Speaker 1>So in March nineteen eighty one, Michelle gets arrested again,

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<v Speaker 1>and this time Nadine was even grabbed as an accomplice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this part is nuts. Her second daughter, Okay, the one

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<v Speaker 1>with Michelle, was even born that year while Nadine was

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. They had kids. They had kids, and the

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<v Speaker 1>daughter escaped at prison at six months old. Very impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>So with you, oh okay, can you imagine, well if

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<v Speaker 1>you considered a womb of prison. Yes, well, she escaped

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<v Speaker 1>at zero years old in nineteen eighty two, with both

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<v Speaker 1>of them behind bars. Somehow, Michelle Nadine arranged for a

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<v Speaker 1>prison wedding. They met at a prison registry to sign

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<v Speaker 1>the papers, and in the intimacy of the moment, Michelle

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<v Speaker 1>told her about his next plans for escape. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't was released the same day, but Michelle's sentence

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<v Speaker 1>was for eighteen years. If they were going to be together,

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<v Speaker 1>they would need to work together to break Michelle out

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<v Speaker 1>of the most notorious prison in Paris. Lessons. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Well it's actually a prison. It's well known

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<v Speaker 1>for housing celebrities and VIPs. At least, I mean at

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<v Speaker 1>least if you're a fan of like well, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of French criminals, that is, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>like oj, you'd be put in Leyson. Yeah, exactly, you

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<v Speaker 1>would be in the song. Now do any of these

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<v Speaker 1>names sound familiar to Jean Ganay, Carlos the Jackal, Bernard Tappi,

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Jerome Cavier and Jacques Missline. I'm fucking up all these names.

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<v Speaker 1>But how about a first couple I recognize? How about

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<v Speaker 1>Manuel Noriega, the former dictator of Panama. Oh yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up there in twenty ten. Oh man. Apparently his

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<v Speaker 1>excuse is he wanted the cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>About one thing you can say about Manuel Noriega. He

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<v Speaker 2>loved his cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>He loved his cheese. Say what you will about him

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<v Speaker 1>and narco trafficking. That's right, yeah, say what you will

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<v Speaker 1>about the man. The man had a taste for the

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<v Speaker 1>fine things. Laissan has actually been used to film numerous

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<v Speaker 1>French gangster movies and there wash there are French pop

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<v Speaker 1>songs about the prison. I'm not sure you know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if this was filmed there, but Umprofet was

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing French film about the rise of an inmate.

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<v Speaker 1>Laissan is still open today and it's one of just

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<v Speaker 1>three prisons in Paris. Now. It has a high security wing,

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<v Speaker 1>but the security is known for being like fairly lax.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, gentlemen, I need to I need to break

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<v Speaker 1>in here and say the name of the prison is

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<v Speaker 1>son of It, Son of a gun. So we've been

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<v Speaker 1>told by our overlords in the sky, our producers there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually La Sente.

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<v Speaker 2>So confused, I was confused that you were talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, of course, that's exactly what the jackal was. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it all wrong, Yes, thank you, over lord

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<v Speaker 1>in my sky. So in two thousand, La Sante's chief

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<v Speaker 1>medical officer published a book revealing what life was like inside.

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<v Speaker 1>She described inmates piled on top of one another, suicidal,

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<v Speaker 1>prisoners were left in chains, and prisoners with their chic

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<v Speaker 1>skin infections that have been eliminated in general society but

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<v Speaker 1>kept alive inside the prison. Are chaic skin infections I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like leprosy and okay, yeah, probably that is archaic, biblical. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Yeah, so they have the bubonic plague. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird. Yeah, they have that like weird, like

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<v Speaker 1>weird skinning condition where an angel of death comes to

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<v Speaker 1>your house if you didn't put the lamps blood in

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<v Speaker 1>front of it. Yeah. Those again we got We got

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<v Speaker 1>our Catholic people back. Oh, we got them back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>are not or not. She also said that it was

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<v Speaker 1>infested with rats and cockroaches, which I guess is to

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<v Speaker 1>be expected. Now, while Michelle was serving time, he was

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<v Speaker 1>not taking it easy. You know. He was coordinated with

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<v Speaker 1>Nadine and other friends on the outside, and over time

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.440
<v Speaker 1>they came up with a plan. Michelle said that after

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<v Speaker 1>studying the layouts to various prisons, he declared that the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest way out of La Sante was to escape by air. Now,

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the layout made it safe to bring in a helicopter

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<v Speaker 1>and hover in place where smokestacks blocked the view from

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<v Speaker 1>the watchtowers, meaning that a helicopter couldn't be shot down

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.159
<v Speaker 1>by the guards. Now on the outside, Nadine wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting around waiting for his eighteen year sentence to end, No, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>She was in on the plan. Michelle had already escaped

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<v Speaker 1>four times from prison, so they had to say why

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<v Speaker 1>not five and five times five times as the prison tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where we will take a little break

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize to everybody that heard the pronunciation of laissant.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're getting to the big moment. May sixth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six, the day of the escape, Escape, Escape, Escape.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that Ben adds like echo after I say

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<v Speaker 1>the escape, or something godly like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if whoever's listening has heard the echo, then I

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<v Speaker 2>have done.

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<v Speaker 1>My job, thanks buddy. So that morning, Michelle said he

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<v Speaker 1>woke up early at six am. He had four hours

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<v Speaker 1>before the scheduled ren dezvous with Nadine. That's rendezvous for

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<v Speaker 1>all you non French speaking people. After breakfast, the prisoners

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<v Speaker 1>will let out for a morning walk in the prison yard.

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<v Speaker 1>As he got outside, Michelle looked up at the window

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<v Speaker 1>of the prison building above him, and he saw the

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<v Speaker 1>signal signal signals wow again some echo, which was actually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty corny if you ask me. The signal was simply

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<v Speaker 1>a white piece of cardboards stuck in the stairwell window.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, really, all this elaborate escape and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, just put some cud with U. We've

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<v Speaker 1>run out of budget for couliffex. But it meant that

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the helicopter was on its way. So in the yard,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Michelle spread out a towel on the ground and started

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>his yoga routine. Eventually, huh, he heard the helicopter approaching.

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>You guys, It's like the guy you like is like

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 1>looking at you at the party and you're like, my god,

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>does he approachingesy coming this way? That's what he felt like,

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>just in a much more heightened version. At first, it

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 1>was a low rumble, and as it fucking burst into

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the sky over the prison yard, it became a roar

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:32.199
<v Speaker 1>that froze all the other prisoners in place. Yeah, they're like,

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>now the door did? The helicopter opened and a duffle

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>back flew out, crashing down into the prison yard. And

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that's when Michelle sprang into action. He rushed into the bag,

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 1>ripped it open, dug out a pistol and pointed to

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the prisoners and the guards in the yard, yelling nobody moved,

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the French version of that is. And the

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 1>prisoners that were already not moving, they're like, what do

0:24:54.480 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>you mean I'm doing yoga? Steal there's one fusual like,

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>does this mean the thing is over? Okay? So Michelle

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>also pulled out a fishing rod and two meters of rope. Okay, So, Jay,

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you're in a prison yard with a pistol, a fishing

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>pole and some rope. How are you gonna escape? Jay,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll start fishing in the moat. Yeah, I'll catch a fish.

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll tie a rope around the fish's neck and

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 2>use it to like water ski across the moat.

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful, Yes, jumping the shark. He jumped the shark. Now

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Michelle ran to the side of the prison building and

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>forcing everybody to clear path. He used a fishing rod

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to loop the rope through the window bars two meters up.

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Then he used a rope to climb up. He scrambled

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>from window ledge to window ledge, using the fishing pole

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to lift the rope and loop it through the next

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 1>set of iron bars. Can you fucking believe? Oh my god?

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Now a prison guard was stationed on the roof, but

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Michelle knew that the man in the helicopter was holding

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>him a gunpoint. It was when he reached the roof

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that Michelle says that all the noise up with him

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>he heard the alarms blaring, the helicopter roaring, and the

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>prisoners below cheering him on, like obviously, it must be

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:10.439
<v Speaker 1>such an emotive moment. Huh. So he jumped onto the

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>landing skits of the helicopter and flew away while the

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>prisoners clapped and celebrated his escape. Oh my god.

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he just grabbed onto the skids his kids. Yeah. Yeah,

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 2>oh well, that's where all the yoga came in. I mean,

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 2>he had like muscle tone.

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He was also really and people say that his

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>chi was really connected as well.

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 2>You know that he could just merge completely with the helicopter,

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the energy of the helicopter.

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 1>There was a sense of oneness repeated by the person. Well,

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>at least that's Michelle's version of the story. You know,

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>he published that in a book in twenty eighteen, laying

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it all out, but Michelle leaves out some key details

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that were reported in the news at the time. Now,

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>first of all, Michelle didn't make the climb alone. Okay,

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>he had an accomplice, another prisoner named Pierre, who followed

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>him up to the roof and held off the prison

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>guards with a bundle of grenades.

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, here, here, this out using a bundle of grenades.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to tell you. I'm about to tell you. So,

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>as the news report tells it, a man with a

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>machine gun jumped out of the helicopter and slid down

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>a cable to the building's roof. He tied the core

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>around Michelle, who was lifted into the helicopter. Now the cord, Yeah,

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>the cord was dropped again to the gunman, who grabbed it,

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and he was also raised into the air. Then the

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>helicopter turned and flew off, leaving Pierre behind. Pierre. No,

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>no good for Pierre. Can you imagine you did all this?

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess we have it. We are free. And they're like, wait,

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>wait are we? Did you all get together? Your bastard. So,

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Pierre was a waiting trial for armed robbery, and he

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>told the police that he decided not to join the

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>escape at the last minute. Shut the fuck up, Prierre,

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you got left, Okay, it's one of these I didn't

0:27:55.840 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't, dumb me. I dumped him. Poor Pierre, Poor Pierre.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 1>But the thing that Pierre could reveal to the prison

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>guards was that the grenades he was using were not real.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>They were neck turenes yeah, yeah, so they were nectarenes.

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Bro Pierre had hidden them and covered them in paint

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>to look like explosives. I love to think that one

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>of the guards knew they were in grenades, but it's

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>absolutely grossed out by fruit. Like you know, if the

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>dude took one look and he's like, absolutely fucking up.

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, hey those are green nectarinestrhea, Like I don't.

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>My mouth is just salivating thinking about the sellarness. And now,

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>as for the rest of the guards, I can't blame

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>him if I'm not wanting to get up close and

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>personal with some fucking grenades to see if they were

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>going to explode, you know, prison or yells grenade to me, Well,

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>there's a helicopter in the sky. I wanna believe him.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised he didn't use cheese because I think, I

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>like those round cheeses would look a little more grenades, because.

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>No prison guard will ever mistake cheese for grenades. Bro Okay,

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>that's true, that's right. Nectarines is yeah, you're right. It's

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>easier to confuse. So Nadine flew Michelle to a soft

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>field at a nearby university. When they landed, there was

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a car waiting to whisk them away. No names of

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>their accomplices in the helicopter or get away car ever

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>came to light. So at least they were, you know,

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>honor among thieves in there.

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I mean I'm still thinking about poor Pierre,

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>like standing on that rooftop.

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Anybody, you guys are you guys are coming back though? Right? Yeah,

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys are. You're just going to get more few. Yeah,

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys come coming back though? Like should I just yeah?

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Should I just wait wait here? Okay, I'll wait here.

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll mean I got the nectarines? Ye, anybody hungry in

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the meantime. So, Michelle was a contract burglar and the

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>escape was arranged by his friends in organized crime. He

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>never admitted who helped them, but it was obviously a

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>network with accomplices both inside and outside the prison. When

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the police chased down the helicopter at the soccer field,

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>they surrounded it for more than an hour before moving

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in to check it out. I mean, they were terrified

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that it was movie trapped and waited to see if

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it would explode, like holy shit, No wonder the nectarine

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>plan worked.

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, these French police are pretty cautious, I'll.

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Give him back to them. Yeah. So eventually they send

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>bomb sniffing dogs into inspected before they searched it but

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>found nothing. Now, some accounts say the Michelle and Nadan

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>escape to South America for a few months, but eventually

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>returned after running out of money.

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 2>I love that they staged this incredibly elaborate and expensive

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 2>escape with all the details in place and then all that,

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like wires dangling from helicopters.

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>But they go to South America and run out of

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>money and I don't know how to spend. Yeah, we

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>talked economics. They didn't know.

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can escape, but we cannot budget South America.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>They didn't come on, dude, seventeen months of I or

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, helicopter lessons, you didn't. You didn't do

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>one like accounting lesson. So if it's true that they left,

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>they were all also able to slip back across the

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>border into France and hide out in a small French town.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>By that same fall, in nineteen eighty six, their two

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>daughters were twelve and five. They try to set up

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a life as a family in this little small town.

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>French newspapers say that they were really happy together. Michelle

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>says that he was mad in Nadine. She wanted to

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>give up a life of crime and love a peaceful

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>situation as a family. But who do you think you

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>are with your sportsman woman like figure.

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>It's all about rebellion, man, come on man, the war

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 2>against society.

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she even considered turning herself in, and she told

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>them so. Now, what everyone agrees on is that Michelle

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and Nadine were out of money. So just a few

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>months after the jail break, Michelle decided to try another robbery,

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like fucking idiot, But he was pretty desperate and didn't

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>exactly have a plan or anything. So on the day

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>he got to the bank and saw that there were

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>three armed guards stationed at the front door, but instead

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of backing out, Michelle tried to jump them and win

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>a fight three to one. Oh no, Michelle, man, and

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>all this yog is getting to your brain, dude, You

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>can't just like flow it in there. He says he

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>was able to disarm two of them before the third

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>one started shooting and the other cops arrived in the firefight.

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>One newspaper says that Michelle shot three officers before they

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>shot Michelle in the head with a magnum. WHOA, check

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>this out. The bullet launched in Michelle's brain. Somehow it

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't kill him, Okay. One of the most extremely gross

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>parts here. Right. Michelle says that before he blacked out,

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>he saw bits of his brain floating away from his

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>head in a stream of his own blood. Pretty intense.

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>But why are you charging at arm guards, Michelle? Fucking hell? Oh? Man,

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the guy has a death wish. Yeah. I want to

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's karma for Pierre. Justice for Pierre. Justice. This

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>is what it's all about. Man, That's right, poor Pierre. Meanwhile,

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it's still standing on that rooftop. Guys, anytime any anybody,

0:32:52.120 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>they're coming back. So Michelle fell into a comb The

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 1>police grabbed them and took him to the hospital. Now

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>they were able to identify him as the helicopter prison

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>escapee just by his tattoos. I mean, it didn't help

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that one of the tattoos said folk the Belize escaped

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>in the helicopter. Get me. Eventually, eventually Michelle came back

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to consciousness, but his left side was paralyzed. He was

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>charged with numerous crimes, and this time, when he was

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>moved to prison. He was locked in solitary confinement. You

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>can't blame him. Yeah, yeah, they're like, fucking the guy.

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>We're done now.

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>The day he gets one round cheese, but that's it.

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, give him the camembert Okay, he get him stewing

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>there with it. The day after Michelle was arrested, the

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.239
<v Speaker 1>police swept in and arrested Nadine too. They have been

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>conspirators before, so naturally she was suspected as part of

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the plan for their most recent robbery. Apparently, Michelle tried

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>to escape again by helicopter in nineteen ninety three, but

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the prison. Yes, but the prison had been alerted and

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>his plan was thwarted. People need to stop renting his

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>friends some helicopters, man.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Like they're there's one thing I hate helicopter escapes. I mean,

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 2>come on, there's a lot of other motorized vehicles. Yeah,

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 2>they just make a cooler right, like yeah, Trey harder,

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Michelle something something.

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>How about a team of pole vaulters, Yeah, get over

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>those yeah, or those Alaskan pulling dogs. What do you

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>call it?

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you mean like in the Iditarod, the like yeah, husky.

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just a bunch of Huskies.

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, you'd have to get some snowmaking equipment in the

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 2>prison somehow for the Huskies to have something.

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that's that's Pierre's job. This time.

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>He convinced them that this time for sure, all the

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>snows and dig a tunnel for the Huskies to get out,

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and then they would leave him, leave.

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>His ass again. Here's the aftermath. Okay, Michelle was finally

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>released from prison in September two thousand and three. He

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>still had sixteen years left on his sentence, but changes

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in French law allowed a judge to overrule the earlier decision.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>This this surprised me about a lot of European law

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>bro that they were like, this man murders seventeen people,

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 1>we gave him ten years, ten years to think about,

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It just feels like like

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>sentences in Europe sometimes are so communtied.

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I just get the feeling they're a lot more lenient

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 2>about a lot of things, you know, Like, I.

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't know, they probably had it coming. I don't know

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>his life. You know, Pierre deserved it. Nobody liked Pierre, Yeah, nobody.

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Fucking Pierre is still working at the fucking prison now.

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>He's like, fuck you guys. Now, when he was free,

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Michelle had spent twenty seven years total in jail, seventeen

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>of those years in solitary confinement. WHOA, yeah, that'll do

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<v Speaker 1>some Maybe maybe that's where all this yoga and sense

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff came in handy. Yeah, he had lived only forty

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<v Speaker 1>months of his adult life as a free man. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. Now on the French legal system, Michelle said,

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<v Speaker 1>justice and all that stuff didn't exists for me. That

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<v Speaker 1>justice business was a complete con. Some people command the

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>poor folks below them, and I was one of the

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>poor folks, those who had no power, nothing. I was

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<v Speaker 1>the son of nothing. What an impassioned speech. He strikes

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>on some interesting points, but like, you know, I love

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of Michelle hairbillowing in the wind, coming out

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>of solitary confinement and being like I have.

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<v Speaker 2>A declaration to make you know, Oh, I mean he

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>sounds very philosophical about it, you know, like for a

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>guy who would just bum brush armed guards, Yeah you really,

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and just like Rob mercilessly and plan these elaborate escapes.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michelle's escaped inspire many copycats between nineteen eighty six

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty fifteen eight, additional helicopter scapes occurred in French prisons. Okay,

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what, they should just outlaw helicopters at some point.

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 1>It's the French prison's fault to this guard's helicopter escapes.

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>French prisons have started to put mesh nets and closely

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>spaced cables over our outdoor spaces. What about large glass

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.240
<v Speaker 1>treenes or domes? You know, what about the Catholic priests

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>shaming you as you're flying in.

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 2>Just post Catholic priests on the roofs of all things,

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>shaming people.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>That would fuck is? Do you know that would stop me?

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh my god, I'm out. That would

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 1>stop you in a second. Yeah, I mean I'm out.

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm out a Catholic priest or you're kryptonide.

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>They really are now on the Nadine side. She published

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<v Speaker 1>a book about her life and especially about the prison escape.

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>In fact, she beat Michelle by a few decades. Her memoir,

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<v Speaker 1>called air Girl, was published in nineteen eighty nine. She

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<v Speaker 1>actually got a film deal out of it. A movie

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<v Speaker 1>of the same title in French is La fille le

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>laires and so much nicer in French and It was

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<v Speaker 1>released in nineteen ninety two. Now, Michelle Villere's biography was

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>published in twenty eighteen with the title Love Saved Me

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 1>from Sinking. He claims that today he is a change man.

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 1>He's still alive and his war against society is over.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>He even says here that his yoga technique restored his

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<v Speaker 1>brain function and healed his left hand, his arm, and

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 1>leg with a reversal of consciousness. I believe it. Listen, man, okay,

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I subscribe to Goop. You know I'm with it. I

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>live in la I believe in these things happening now. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>the love that Saint Michelle was apparently not Nadine's ooh

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>son of God yep. A law student named Jamilla started

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>visiting him in prison, and one French newspaper says that

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>they held a secret wedding in nineteen ninety nine. He

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>even tried to have her He tried to have her

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>repeat the helicopter escape, but Jamila was arrested. Hearing me out,

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>she fucking said yes, but she was arrested before they

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>could pull it off and was sentenced to seven years

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in prison.

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Talk about repeating the same mistakes with every relationship.

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Well, so, like, how good is this man

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>in bed?

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's obviously got a sort of an animal magnetism. Yeah,

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.760
<v Speaker 2>because like now Nadine's on the rooftop with pir right.

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he just he just left them both. And now

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Nadine and Pierre actually yeah, have a full trade cheese company.

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 2>That they Hollywood version of this arturo like you know, yeah,

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Pierre and Nadine definitely end up together.

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>They end up together.

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 2>They have an Etsy shop making keys out of wax.

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 1>So when Michelle and Jamila were finally released, Michelle went

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>to live with his new wife Jamila. No imagine, Nadine, bro, like,

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>what else did you have to do for this motherfucker?

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>And then he publishes a book name like Love Save Me,

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't yours. I know, that's so wrong. I mean,

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 1>she took helicopter lesson. She took helicopter lessons. I mean

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of helicopter lessons. She learned how to hover

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like four feet off the ground, sucking really hard. I

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know, personally, anybody loved him, that's right. Somebody throw

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a tangerinea this fucking guy. I don't know, I don't know.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of angry at this, dude. I mean, we're

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>on society, okay, but to Pierre.

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>And and to brag about it, I know, I know,

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>so listen. That's our story. But to recap, we learned

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 1>that Michelle was excellent at escaping, but really bad at

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>keeping personal relationships.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Which definitely definitely but it's very French too.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Hey a, I cannot speak to that, Jay. Can you

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>stop fucking with our French audience? No, I love our

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>French audience, my friend. What a fucking pleasure to talk

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to you as always.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I love these escapes. Thanks man, I

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 2>would talk to you about anything in the heart.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding? Yeah? Brother. We recently worked on a

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>film together called The Gift Right, The Gift right the Present? Okay,

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the gift is a better, The gift is a better.

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>This is also a pitch session for titles for your movies, Jay.

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 2>No, you see, the gift only works one way. The

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 2>present is also the present. It's like a gift as

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 2>well as the present moment.

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>A little play on words there. Do you have anything

0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>else do you like to plug? Brother? Anything?

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I might want my new line of pants that have

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 2>like the little zippered flaps. On the bottom, so perfect

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:09.280
<v Speaker 2>fake when you're in shorts, yes, hiding for fake guns

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:09.800
<v Speaker 2>and cheese.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Are you ever in shorts? But fuel you have to

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.439
<v Speaker 1>run to a meeting. Try Jay's new catfish pants. Yeah,

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll get you hired and then you never have to

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>wear pants ever again.

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I have like a novel out on Audible now called

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:24.760
<v Speaker 2>The Present as well.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:29.879
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not a coincidence, a different story.

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 2>But you use you want to get a thematic and

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 2>actually it should be called a Gift. And then I

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>have another novel coming out on Audible called Mayfly Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wonderful brother. Much love to you, Thank you so much,

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