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Speaker 1: This is great as Escapes, a show bringing you the

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Speaker 1: wildest true escape stories of all time. Now, in this episode,

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Speaker 1: we're headed to Paris, you guys, for a bonker's jail

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Speaker 1: break by a French gangster who declared on society. I'm

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Speaker 1: Marto Castro and I'm here with a wizard of the

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Speaker 1: comedy world, my dear friend, and a man absolutely obsessed

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Speaker 1: with short short pants, Jay Martel. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: Today I'm joined by Jane Martel. Yes. I gotta tell

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Speaker 1: the audience that Jay catfished me in the sense that

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Speaker 1: when we we we sat for an interview for the

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Speaker 1: head writer position of Alternatino, and Jay showed up into

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Speaker 1: like a button down and like these nice pants, and

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Speaker 1: then yes, and then I never saw him wear pants ever. Again,

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Speaker 1: Jay always showed up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a this is a cultural language thing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I wore pants to the office. They were just short pants,

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Speaker 2: but in your mind they were so short and Guatemala,

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Speaker 2: I guess they don't call short pants pants.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, we do not show another man or thoughts.

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Speaker 1: And as we'm in business and you really and I

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Speaker 1: was just throwing them out there in your face every

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Speaker 1: day for free. I always say that Jay, like always

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Speaker 1: looks like he just smits his flight, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Like he's in the Atlanta airport. He fucking

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Speaker 1: had to go get that neck pillow and his fucking

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Speaker 1: left him. He's just looking around, looking.

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Speaker 2: Like always a little like rumbled a little just enough?

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Speaker 1: All right, you ready for a little escaping, Yes, definitely.

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Speaker 1: So today instead of a cell block, we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: on a launch pad. Ooh, and the year is nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty five, which is the year I was born. Great

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Speaker 1: year for babies, Am I right?

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Speaker 2: Jay?

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Speaker 1: It was so fantastic? Okay? And we're in Ansei in

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Speaker 1: the Alps of southern France. Now, a woman, Lena Ruigon

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Speaker 1: has started taking helicopter lessons from a guy named Ghi,

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Speaker 1: a flight instructor at a local airport. Now, he didn't

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Speaker 1: showed great commitment to learning. So in fact, she booked

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Speaker 1: a hotel by the airport for a whole month, and

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Speaker 1: she spent two or three hours every day practicing in

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Speaker 1: felt like he was getting to know her pretty well.

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Speaker 1: For him. That apparently means remembering that she was blonde.

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Speaker 1: I love giving it, like, yes, I know everything about her.

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Speaker 1: She is a blonde, so is it. Yeah. So that

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Speaker 1: September she took her flying exam and she passed with

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Speaker 1: flying colors. Wow. Nice, And she got a fifty eight

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Speaker 1: out of sixty required points, which I guess is enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't. This is such a French way of scoring,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. The rest of the world is like, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's one hundred, and friends is like, I feel sixty

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Speaker 2: You would be ahead of yeah, if you had any

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Speaker 1: This man is apparently close to death. This frenchman him

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Speaker 1: dying and right flying. It's a French pirate in this situation.

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Speaker 1: Remember Jay that there was a sketch that we never

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Speaker 1: quite made work about a Frenchman who was unimpressed by

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Speaker 1: it was good. This is shit. And then a Robert

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Speaker 1: this gun sees his ship and you know, he saves

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Speaker 1: the day. I wonder whe didn't let us do that,

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Speaker 1: Maybe because we didn't know how to fucking end the sketch,

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Speaker 1: or we sounded like pirates when we did, because they

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Speaker 1: what's going on? All right? So then Lena moved to Paris,

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Speaker 1: which is probably French for not Kirby. I don't know

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Speaker 1: it was carrying Don Tonton a submachine gun. What And

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Speaker 1: it turns out Lena had been hiding her real identity.

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Speaker 1: Her real name was actually Nadine, and the day she'd

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Speaker 1: response from a helicopter as it buzzed the rooftops, but

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Speaker 1: Nadine wasn't answering no, no. She was flying nineteen miles

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Speaker 1: from the airport to Lesson prison in Paris because she

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Speaker 1: was gonna bust her husband out of jail.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Now I see how it all tied

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Speaker 2: together with the theme of this podcast.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, okay, a sportsman, woman, dead pirates, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big bags, machine gun, flying low you know classic. Can

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Speaker 2: She must have really loved her husband. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: Okay, who the hell is her husband? Let's figure this out.

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Speaker 1: So his name was Michelle Vajoule. Right. He was a

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Speaker 1: gangster who had declared as a teenager that he was

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Speaker 1: going to wage war against society. You know, the revolution

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Speaker 1: remains strong in this one.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's very common thing and teenagers, I mean,

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Speaker 2: especially in France. I imagine it's like, yeah, Bennett.

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Speaker 1: Down, they are incredibly good at striking in France. That

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Speaker 1: is not even a joke. Yeah, oh my god, there's good.

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Speaker 1: We could take a page out of their book for this.

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Speaker 2: If this was in France, I'd be striking right now

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Speaker 2: for better wages for podcast co hosts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. No, it was at getting paid. I'm

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Speaker 1: let's both strike all right? So who was Michelle? Was your?

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Speaker 1: To start with? He was an altar boy, no, like literally,

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Speaker 1: live in a boarding school run by a local priest. Now,

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Speaker 2: Like like this couple is like it's going to take

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Speaker 2: I mean, she's a sportsman type with who flies helicopters,

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Speaker 2: and he's like an all around athlete who shoots game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But also my priest like always sounded like that

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Speaker 1: know they were like priests that like did like rock climbing.

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Speaker 2: You know, if Jesus is at the top of that hill,

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Speaker 2: they're going to climb that rock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right on this mountain. I shaw build my church.

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Speaker 1: One person in the audience is gonna be oh he

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you're going to get that one hardcore Catholic

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, thanks very much. But for Michelle, alter boy didn't

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Speaker 1: translate to being like a rule follower. Right when he

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Speaker 1: making us all look bad. Good for you, good for you.

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Speaker 2: Poor planning. Everyone knows you don't park a stolen car

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Speaker 1: So what do you like? You've been stealing cars? Jay,

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Speaker 1: there's a knock at your door, somebody says, police, What

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Speaker 1: thing that you do? Say? Like, I'm an idiot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I deserved to be taken off to prison

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Speaker 1: That would be your way. That would be get and by.

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Speaker 2: The way, and by the way, on pants, Let me

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Speaker 1: Jay's way would be like, and by the way, I

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Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, cracking, cracking immediately. So I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what Michelle did. Right. He dove out of the bedroom

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Speaker 1: face the police alone. Fucked up, like leaving your girlfriend

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Speaker 2: Was actually going to go out it's a window and

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Speaker 1: So he's a German Frenchman. Now, oh god, damn it.

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Speaker 2: I knew I should practice my accents. You didn't tell

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Speaker 1: I think we need to do Yeah, I think we

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Speaker 1: need to use our own accents from now on. Day

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Speaker 1: that the European nations are up in arms.

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Speaker 1: No, no, it's just so listen. So she confessed, right,

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Speaker 1: Michelle was caught, convicted, and he was put away for

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Speaker 1: two and a half years. Now, Michelle thought his punishment

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Speaker 1: start his war against society. When he got out, Michelle

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Speaker 1: of I mean, I'm not advocating grand theft auto here,

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Speaker 1: but it seemed like he was just a dumb kid, right,

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Speaker 1: like most of the time he put the car away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's still really young now, right, he was

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Speaker 1: so yeah, there's just no yeah you could.

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Speaker 2: You're just crazy when you're nineteen, right, I don't know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a nut job at nineteen, and it

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Speaker 1: hasn't gotten any better, no, no. But also like it

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like people that go in the system, it

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Speaker 1: guess that's when he got a really revolutionary with his crimes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but prison, you know, they couldn't hold him. They just

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Speaker 1: could not hold Michelle. Right. He made his first escape

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Speaker 1: Well. The fourth escape came in nineteen seventy nine during

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Speaker 1: not five and five times five times as the prison tribe.

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00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: And this is where we will take a little break

432
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: to apologize to everybody that heard the pronunciation of laissant.

433
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: Now we're getting to the big moment. May sixth, nineteen

434
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: eighty six, the day of the escape, Escape, Escape, Escape.

435
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: I hope that Ben adds like echo after I say

436
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: the escape, or something godly like that.

437
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, if whoever's listening has heard the echo, then I

438
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: have done.

439
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: My job, thanks buddy. So that morning, Michelle said he

440
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: woke up early at six am. He had four hours

441
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: before the scheduled ren dezvous with Nadine. That's rendezvous for

442
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: all you non French speaking people. After breakfast, the prisoners

443
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: will let out for a morning walk in the prison yard.

444
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: As he got outside, Michelle looked up at the window

445
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: of the prison building above him, and he saw the

446
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: signal signal signals wow again some echo, which was actually

447
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: pretty corny if you ask me. The signal was simply

448
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: a white piece of cardboards stuck in the stairwell window.

449
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, really, all this elaborate escape and they're like,

450
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, just put some cud with U. We've

451
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: run out of budget for couliffex. But it meant that

452
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: the helicopter was on its way. So in the yard,

453
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: Michelle spread out a towel on the ground and started

454
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: his yoga routine. Eventually, huh, he heard the helicopter approaching.

455
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: You guys, It's like the guy you like is like

456
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: looking at you at the party and you're like, my god,

457
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: does he approachingesy coming this way? That's what he felt like,

458
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: just in a much more heightened version. At first, it

459
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: was a low rumble, and as it fucking burst into

460
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: the sky over the prison yard, it became a roar

461
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: that froze all the other prisoners in place. Yeah, they're like,

462
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: now the door did? The helicopter opened and a duffle

463
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: back flew out, crashing down into the prison yard. And

464
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: that's when Michelle sprang into action. He rushed into the bag,

465
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: ripped it open, dug out a pistol and pointed to

466
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: the prisoners and the guards in the yard, yelling nobody moved,

467
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: or whatever the French version of that is. And the

468
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: prisoners that were already not moving, they're like, what do

469
00:24:54,480 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: you mean I'm doing yoga? Steal there's one fusual like,

470
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: does this mean the thing is over? Okay? So Michelle

471
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: also pulled out a fishing rod and two meters of rope. Okay, So, Jay,

472
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: you're in a prison yard with a pistol, a fishing

473
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: pole and some rope. How are you gonna escape? Jay,

474
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: I'll start fishing in the moat. Yeah, I'll catch a fish.

475
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tie a rope around the fish's neck and

476
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: use it to like water ski across the moat.

477
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: Beautiful, Yes, jumping the shark. He jumped the shark. Now

478
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: Michelle ran to the side of the prison building and

479
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: forcing everybody to clear path. He used a fishing rod

480
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: to loop the rope through the window bars two meters up.

481
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: Then he used a rope to climb up. He scrambled

482
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: from window ledge to window ledge, using the fishing pole

483
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: to lift the rope and loop it through the next

484
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: set of iron bars. Can you fucking believe? Oh my god?

485
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: Now a prison guard was stationed on the roof, but

486
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: Michelle knew that the man in the helicopter was holding

487
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: him a gunpoint. It was when he reached the roof

488
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: that Michelle says that all the noise up with him

489
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: he heard the alarms blaring, the helicopter roaring, and the

490
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: prisoners below cheering him on, like obviously, it must be

491
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: such an emotive moment. Huh. So he jumped onto the

492
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: landing skits of the helicopter and flew away while the

493
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: prisoners clapped and celebrated his escape. Oh my god.

494
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just grabbed onto the skids his kids. Yeah. Yeah,

495
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: oh well, that's where all the yoga came in. I mean,

496
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: he had like muscle tone.

497
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. He was also really and people say that his

498
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: chi was really connected as well.

499
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: You know that he could just merge completely with the helicopter,

500
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: the energy of the helicopter.

501
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: There was a sense of oneness repeated by the person. Well,

502
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: at least that's Michelle's version of the story. You know,

503
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: he published that in a book in twenty eighteen, laying

504
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: it all out, but Michelle leaves out some key details

505
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: that were reported in the news at the time. Now,

506
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: first of all, Michelle didn't make the climb alone. Okay,

507
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: he had an accomplice, another prisoner named Pierre, who followed

508
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: him up to the roof and held off the prison

509
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: guards with a bundle of grenades.

510
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, here, here, this out using a bundle of grenades.

511
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you. I'm about to tell you. So,

512
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: as the news report tells it, a man with a

513
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: machine gun jumped out of the helicopter and slid down

514
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: a cable to the building's roof. He tied the core

515
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: around Michelle, who was lifted into the helicopter. Now the cord, Yeah,

516
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: the cord was dropped again to the gunman, who grabbed it,

517
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: and he was also raised into the air. Then the

518
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: helicopter turned and flew off, leaving Pierre behind. Pierre. No,

519
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: no good for Pierre. Can you imagine you did all this?

520
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: I guess we have it. We are free. And they're like, wait,

521
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: wait are we? Did you all get together? Your bastard. So,

522
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: Pierre was a waiting trial for armed robbery, and he

523
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: told the police that he decided not to join the

524
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: escape at the last minute. Shut the fuck up, Prierre,

525
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: you got left, Okay, it's one of these I didn't

526
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: he didn't, dumb me. I dumped him. Poor Pierre, Poor Pierre.

527
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: But the thing that Pierre could reveal to the prison

528
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: guards was that the grenades he was using were not real.

529
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: They were neck turenes yeah, yeah, so they were nectarenes.

530
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: Bro Pierre had hidden them and covered them in paint

531
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: to look like explosives. I love to think that one

532
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: of the guards knew they were in grenades, but it's

533
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: absolutely grossed out by fruit. Like you know, if the

534
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: dude took one look and he's like, absolutely fucking up.

535
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 2: Okay, hey those are green nectarinestrhea, Like I don't.

536
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: My mouth is just salivating thinking about the sellarness. And now,

537
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: as for the rest of the guards, I can't blame

538
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: him if I'm not wanting to get up close and

539
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: personal with some fucking grenades to see if they were

540
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: going to explode, you know, prison or yells grenade to me, Well,

541
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: there's a helicopter in the sky. I wanna believe him.

542
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm surprised he didn't use cheese because I think, I

543
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: like those round cheeses would look a little more grenades, because.

544
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: No prison guard will ever mistake cheese for grenades. Bro Okay,

545
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: that's true, that's right. Nectarines is yeah, you're right. It's

546
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: easier to confuse. So Nadine flew Michelle to a soft

547
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: field at a nearby university. When they landed, there was

548
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: a car waiting to whisk them away. No names of

549
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: their accomplices in the helicopter or get away car ever

550
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: came to light. So at least they were, you know,

551
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: honor among thieves in there.

552
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean I'm still thinking about poor Pierre,

553
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: like standing on that rooftop.

554
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: Anybody, you guys are you guys are coming back though? Right? Yeah,

555
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: you guys are. You're just going to get more few. Yeah,

556
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: you guys come coming back though? Like should I just yeah?

557
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Should I just wait wait here? Okay, I'll wait here.

558
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: I'll mean I got the nectarines? Ye, anybody hungry in

559
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: the meantime. So, Michelle was a contract burglar and the

560
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: escape was arranged by his friends in organized crime. He

561
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: never admitted who helped them, but it was obviously a

562
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: network with accomplices both inside and outside the prison. When

563
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: the police chased down the helicopter at the soccer field,

564
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: they surrounded it for more than an hour before moving

565
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: in to check it out. I mean, they were terrified

566
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 1: that it was movie trapped and waited to see if

567
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: it would explode, like holy shit, No wonder the nectarine

568
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: plan worked.

569
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, these French police are pretty cautious, I'll.

570
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: Give him back to them. Yeah. So eventually they send

571
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: bomb sniffing dogs into inspected before they searched it but

572
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: found nothing. Now, some accounts say the Michelle and Nadan

573
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: escape to South America for a few months, but eventually

574
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: returned after running out of money.

575
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: I love that they staged this incredibly elaborate and expensive

576
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: escape with all the details in place and then all that,

577
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: you know, like wires dangling from helicopters.

578
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: But they go to South America and run out of

579
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: money and I don't know how to spend. Yeah, we

580
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: talked economics. They didn't know.

581
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can escape, but we cannot budget South America.

582
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: They didn't come on, dude, seventeen months of I or

583
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: whatever it was, helicopter lessons, you didn't. You didn't do

584
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: one like accounting lesson. So if it's true that they left,

585
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: they were all also able to slip back across the

586
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: border into France and hide out in a small French town.

587
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: By that same fall, in nineteen eighty six, their two

588
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: daughters were twelve and five. They try to set up

589
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: a life as a family in this little small town.

590
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: French newspapers say that they were really happy together. Michelle

591
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: says that he was mad in Nadine. She wanted to

592
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: give up a life of crime and love a peaceful

593
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: situation as a family. But who do you think you

594
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: are with your sportsman woman like figure.

595
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: It's all about rebellion, man, come on man, the war

596
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: against society.

597
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she even considered turning herself in, and she told

598
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: them so. Now, what everyone agrees on is that Michelle

599
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: and Nadine were out of money. So just a few

600
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: months after the jail break, Michelle decided to try another robbery,

601
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: like fucking idiot, But he was pretty desperate and didn't

602
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: exactly have a plan or anything. So on the day

603
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: he got to the bank and saw that there were

604
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: three armed guards stationed at the front door, but instead

605
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: of backing out, Michelle tried to jump them and win

606
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: a fight three to one. Oh no, Michelle, man, and

607
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: all this yog is getting to your brain, dude, You

608
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: can't just like flow it in there. He says he

609
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: was able to disarm two of them before the third

610
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: one started shooting and the other cops arrived in the firefight.

611
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: One newspaper says that Michelle shot three officers before they

612
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: shot Michelle in the head with a magnum. WHOA, check

613
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: this out. The bullet launched in Michelle's brain. Somehow it

614
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: didn't kill him, Okay. One of the most extremely gross

615
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: parts here. Right. Michelle says that before he blacked out,

616
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: he saw bits of his brain floating away from his

617
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: head in a stream of his own blood. Pretty intense.

618
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: But why are you charging at arm guards, Michelle? Fucking hell? Oh? Man,

619
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: the guy has a death wish. Yeah. I want to

620
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: think it's karma for Pierre. Justice for Pierre. Justice. This

621
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: is what it's all about. Man, That's right, poor Pierre. Meanwhile,

622
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: it's still standing on that rooftop. Guys, anytime any anybody,

623
00:32:52,120 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: they're coming back. So Michelle fell into a comb The

624
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: police grabbed them and took him to the hospital. Now

625
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: they were able to identify him as the helicopter prison

626
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: escapee just by his tattoos. I mean, it didn't help

627
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: that one of the tattoos said folk the Belize escaped

628
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: in the helicopter. Get me. Eventually, eventually Michelle came back

629
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: to consciousness, but his left side was paralyzed. He was

630
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: charged with numerous crimes, and this time, when he was

631
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: moved to prison. He was locked in solitary confinement. You

632
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: can't blame him. Yeah, yeah, they're like, fucking the guy.

633
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: We're done now.

634
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: The day he gets one round cheese, but that's it.

635
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: Okay, give him the camembert Okay, he get him stewing

636
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: there with it. The day after Michelle was arrested, the

637
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 1: police swept in and arrested Nadine too. They have been

638
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: conspirators before, so naturally she was suspected as part of

639
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: the plan for their most recent robbery. Apparently, Michelle tried

640
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: to escape again by helicopter in nineteen ninety three, but

641
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: the prison. Yes, but the prison had been alerted and

642
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: his plan was thwarted. People need to stop renting his

643
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: friends some helicopters, man.

644
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 2: Like they're there's one thing I hate helicopter escapes. I mean,

645
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: come on, there's a lot of other motorized vehicles. Yeah,

646
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: they just make a cooler right, like yeah, Trey harder,

647
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: Michelle something something.

648
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: How about a team of pole vaulters, Yeah, get over

649
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: those yeah, or those Alaskan pulling dogs. What do you

650
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: call it?

651
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean like in the Iditarod, the like yeah, husky.

652
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a bunch of Huskies.

653
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to get some snowmaking equipment in the

654
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: prison somehow for the Huskies to have something.

655
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's that's Pierre's job. This time.

656
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: He convinced them that this time for sure, all the

657
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: snows and dig a tunnel for the Huskies to get out,

658
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: and then they would leave him, leave.

659
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: His ass again. Here's the aftermath. Okay, Michelle was finally

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00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: released from prison in September two thousand and three. He

661
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: still had sixteen years left on his sentence, but changes

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Speaker 1: in French law allowed a judge to overrule the earlier decision.

663
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Speaker 1: This this surprised me about a lot of European law

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Speaker 1: bro that they were like, this man murders seventeen people,

665
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Speaker 1: we gave him ten years, ten years to think about,

666
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It just feels like like

667
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: sentences in Europe sometimes are so communtied.

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00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: I just get the feeling they're a lot more lenient

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00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: about a lot of things, you know, Like, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, they probably had it coming. I don't know

671
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: his life. You know, Pierre deserved it. Nobody liked Pierre, Yeah, nobody.

672
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: Fucking Pierre is still working at the fucking prison now.

673
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: He's like, fuck you guys. Now, when he was free,

674
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Michelle had spent twenty seven years total in jail, seventeen

675
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: of those years in solitary confinement. WHOA, yeah, that'll do

676
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: some Maybe maybe that's where all this yoga and sense

677
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: stuff came in handy. Yeah, he had lived only forty

678
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: months of his adult life as a free man. Oh

679
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: my god. Now on the French legal system, Michelle said,

680
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: justice and all that stuff didn't exists for me. That

681
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: justice business was a complete con. Some people command the

682
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: poor folks below them, and I was one of the

683
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: poor folks, those who had no power, nothing. I was

684
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: the son of nothing. What an impassioned speech. He strikes

685
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: on some interesting points, but like, you know, I love

686
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: the idea of Michelle hairbillowing in the wind, coming out

687
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: of solitary confinement and being like I have.

688
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: A declaration to make you know, Oh, I mean he

689
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: sounds very philosophical about it, you know, like for a

690
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: guy who would just bum brush armed guards, Yeah you really,

691
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: and just like Rob mercilessly and plan these elaborate escapes.

692
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: So Michelle's escaped inspire many copycats between nineteen eighty six

693
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: and twenty fifteen eight, additional helicopter scapes occurred in French prisons. Okay,

694
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: you know what, they should just outlaw helicopters at some point.

695
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: It's the French prison's fault to this guard's helicopter escapes.

696
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: French prisons have started to put mesh nets and closely

697
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: spaced cables over our outdoor spaces. What about large glass

698
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: treenes or domes? You know, what about the Catholic priests

699
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: shaming you as you're flying in.

700
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: Just post Catholic priests on the roofs of all things,

701
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: shaming people.

702
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: That would fuck is? Do you know that would stop me?

703
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh my god, I'm out. That would

704
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: stop you in a second. Yeah, I mean I'm out.

705
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: I'm out a Catholic priest or you're kryptonide.

706
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: They really are now on the Nadine side. She published

707
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: a book about her life and especially about the prison escape.

708
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: In fact, she beat Michelle by a few decades. Her memoir,

709
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: called air Girl, was published in nineteen eighty nine. She

710
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: actually got a film deal out of it. A movie

711
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: of the same title in French is La fille le

712
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: laires and so much nicer in French and It was

713
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: released in nineteen ninety two. Now, Michelle Villere's biography was

714
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: published in twenty eighteen with the title Love Saved Me

715
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: from Sinking. He claims that today he is a change man.

716
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: He's still alive and his war against society is over.

717
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: He even says here that his yoga technique restored his

718
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: brain function and healed his left hand, his arm, and

719
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: leg with a reversal of consciousness. I believe it. Listen, man, okay,

720
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: I subscribe to Goop. You know I'm with it. I

721
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: live in la I believe in these things happening now. Actually,

722
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: the love that Saint Michelle was apparently not Nadine's ooh

723
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: son of God yep. A law student named Jamilla started

724
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: visiting him in prison, and one French newspaper says that

725
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: they held a secret wedding in nineteen ninety nine. He

726
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: even tried to have her He tried to have her

727
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: repeat the helicopter escape, but Jamila was arrested. Hearing me out,

728
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: she fucking said yes, but she was arrested before they

729
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: could pull it off and was sentenced to seven years

730
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: in prison.

731
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: Talk about repeating the same mistakes with every relationship.

732
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: That's right, Well, so, like, how good is this man

733
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: in bed?

734
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he's obviously got a sort of an animal magnetism. Yeah,

735
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 2: because like now Nadine's on the rooftop with pir right.

736
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just he just left them both. And now

737
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: Nadine and Pierre actually yeah, have a full trade cheese company.

738
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 2: That they Hollywood version of this arturo like you know, yeah,

739
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: Pierre and Nadine definitely end up together.

740
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: They end up together.

741
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: They have an Etsy shop making keys out of wax.

742
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: So when Michelle and Jamila were finally released, Michelle went

743
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: to live with his new wife Jamila. No imagine, Nadine, bro, like,

744
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: what else did you have to do for this motherfucker?

745
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: And then he publishes a book name like Love Save Me,

746
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: but it wasn't yours. I know, that's so wrong. I mean,

747
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: she took helicopter lesson. She took helicopter lessons. I mean

748
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: a lot of helicopter lessons. She learned how to hover

749
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: like four feet off the ground, sucking really hard. I

750
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: don't know, personally, anybody loved him, that's right. Somebody throw

751
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: a tangerinea this fucking guy. I don't know, I don't know.

752
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: I'm kind of angry at this, dude. I mean, we're

753
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: on society, okay, but to Pierre.

754
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: And and to brag about it, I know, I know,

755
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: so listen. That's our story. But to recap, we learned

756
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: that Michelle was excellent at escaping, but really bad at

757
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: keeping personal relationships.

758
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: Which definitely definitely but it's very French too.

759
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: Hey a, I cannot speak to that, Jay. Can you

760
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: stop fucking with our French audience? No, I love our

761
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: French audience, my friend. What a fucking pleasure to talk

762
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: to you as always.

763
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love these escapes. Thanks man, I

764
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: would talk to you about anything in the heart.

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00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Yeah? Brother. We recently worked on a

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00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: film together called The Gift Right, The Gift right the Present? Okay,

767
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: the gift is a better, The gift is a better.

768
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: This is also a pitch session for titles for your movies, Jay.

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00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: No, you see, the gift only works one way. The

770
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: present is also the present. It's like a gift as

771
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: well as the present moment.

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00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: A little play on words there. Do you have anything

773
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: else do you like to plug? Brother? Anything?

774
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: I might want my new line of pants that have

775
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: like the little zippered flaps. On the bottom, so perfect

776
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: fake when you're in shorts, yes, hiding for fake guns

777
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: and cheese.

778
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: Are you ever in shorts? But fuel you have to

779
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: run to a meeting. Try Jay's new catfish pants. Yeah,

780
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I'll get you hired and then you never have to

781
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: wear pants ever again.

782
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: I have like a novel out on Audible now called

783
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 2: The Present as well.

784
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: It's it's not a coincidence, a different story.

785
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: But you use you want to get a thematic and

786
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: actually it should be called a Gift. And then I

787
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: have another novel coming out on Audible called Mayfly Man.

788
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: Oh wonderful brother. Much love to you, Thank you so much,

789
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: my pleasure, Turo. We'll see you next time. Greatest Escapes

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