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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode number sixty five. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break, live from the s
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Today we get into
Speaker 1: the Eagles. We're gonna talk a lot about these Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: particularly particularly the offense of the Eagles. Nick's can also
Speaker 1: break down his storylines for the week that he sets
Speaker 1: up every week on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And of
Speaker 1: course we have to talk a little bit about an injury.
Speaker 1: It seems like that's a common topic right now. But
Speaker 1: yesterday we find out Cowboy's loose Tyrone Crawford looks like
Speaker 1: for the season. What do we know about that? I mean, like,
Speaker 1: when is this something that he came into the year
Speaker 1: with and just kind of got progressively worse? This is
Speaker 1: something that he's had since the end of last year,
Speaker 1: and you know, he tried his best to get it right.
Speaker 1: I said it yesterday. Is like as far as as
Speaker 1: far as like injuries that end your season without being
Speaker 1: like car off the field, Like I feel like the
Speaker 1: writing was on the wall for this, Like it's not
Speaker 1: super surprising. Yeah, Tyrone didn't have much of a training camp.
Speaker 1: He's been trying to rehab this thing since at least
Speaker 1: the spring, if not even earlier than that. You know,
Speaker 1: and you know, he played the first two games and
Speaker 1: when you heard he missed two games after that, and
Speaker 1: you know, like right after the Washington game, they were like, well,
Speaker 1: Tyrone's gonna miss this game. Like it's not even a
Speaker 1: question of practicing Thursday Friday, He's just not gonna play.
Speaker 1: You're like, Ah, that doesn't seem like a good sign.
Speaker 1: And he tried to got it out, couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get surgery. It's fair to say this raises
Speaker 1: a lot of questions about his future with the team.
Speaker 1: I think they can save something like eight million dollars
Speaker 1: if they cut him this offseason. Obviously he's a huge
Speaker 1: locker room guy, big in terms of culture. But you
Speaker 1: do wonder if maybe this is the end for him.
Speaker 1: Tell me what this means for the rest of the roster,
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys have left, how they filled void that
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna lead by. You don't fill that void
Speaker 1: this year because they don't have a player like him.
Speaker 1: And that's why he's on the team. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not why he's on the team, but that's why he's
Speaker 1: one of the captains, one of the hires paid players
Speaker 1: on the defense because he can do some things that
Speaker 1: other players don't and as far as stopping the run
Speaker 1: and getting some good pass rush. He's tied for the
Speaker 1: team lead with tackles for loss with two with Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith and Christian Covington. Tells you a lot right there,
Speaker 1: given the fact that he hasn't been playing all the
Speaker 1: things say, that's a low number for weeks. It's a
Speaker 1: low number. And we're not talking about a starting defensive
Speaker 1: lineman right now that's in that group. Um, because Christian
Speaker 1: Covington has been a backup, he's played some, I guess
Speaker 1: for our woods, but um, Jalen Smith is a linebacker.
Speaker 1: You know, you just think you'd get more tackles for
Speaker 1: lost there. So I mean Tristan Hill. I think we'll
Speaker 1: we'll play more. That doesn't that's that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: drop off, and then they'll have to figure out, you know.
Speaker 1: And then Dorn's Armstrong's banged up a defensive end. So
Speaker 1: you know what we were talking before about these these
Speaker 1: injuries coming bunches. There's your two defensive ends, Crawford and Armstrong.
Speaker 1: You have two corners banged up, two receivers banged up,
Speaker 1: and obviously the two tackles. And they did. They signed
Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Justin Hamilton. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a one technique type of guy, six two, three
Speaker 1: twenty like kind of big fatty that that sounds calling
Speaker 1: a pro athlete a big fatty. He's the trash can
Speaker 1: full of dirt type of dtack well that a lot
Speaker 1: of people have said this team needs. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily replace Tyrone, Like, that's not really what Tyrone did.
Speaker 1: So I am curious about that, especially Dorn's Armstrong is
Speaker 1: dealing with the stinger. He's not practicing today, So there
Speaker 1: isn't an obvious clear cut candidate to take those snaps
Speaker 1: that Tyrone was interested might not play. Actually, if you
Speaker 1: think about if this guy's ready to play. Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: did I mean Jason Garrett anticipates that this will be
Speaker 1: an opportunity for Hill, but even still much experience. He's
Speaker 1: been in the eight career games. He's the classic like
Speaker 1: on and off of practice squads type of guy. He's
Speaker 1: been in the league since fifteen, but he's only played
Speaker 1: in eight career games. He's got three career tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he hasn't done a whole lot, but he's been around.
Speaker 1: He's been around since fifteen, but he's only been on
Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster twice before this. He was
Speaker 1: with he was a training camp with the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: hasn't He hasn't been on a team since he got
Speaker 1: cut at the end of the preseason, So I would
Speaker 1: think he's practice squad eligible too, don't you think eight games?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's but he's been on a
Speaker 1: lot of practice squads already to this point, Like he
Speaker 1: spent the year with Seattle's. He's been around, so I
Speaker 1: don't know if he has eligibility or not going back
Speaker 1: to training camp. I think we had the conversation a
Speaker 1: couple of times about Carrie Hyder and the fact that
Speaker 1: they were moving him around between defensive end and Hyder's
Speaker 1: a guy that would benefit from Is this a guy
Speaker 1: that now has to can slide into a role similar
Speaker 1: to what Tyron Crawford was was having. And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about the production necessarily as much as it is
Speaker 1: just the flexibility of being able to play all those
Speaker 1: different positions. Maybe he becomes that hybrid player for them,
Speaker 1: or maybe you just don't use a hybrid player. And
Speaker 1: that's why Hamilton's here is like, now you have two
Speaker 1: pretty clear cut one techniques in Wood. Well you got well,
Speaker 1: you got Woods and uh and Hamilton. Now you got
Speaker 1: Hill and Malik and then cot Covington could probably do
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. Um, you have some guys
Speaker 1: who could do both in the kitch right, not your
Speaker 1: end tackle, right, I don't know that you have a
Speaker 1: true like end tackle. I mean, I know Hyder, but
Speaker 1: we haven't really seen it since the season started. And
Speaker 1: you know my thoughts on that, I think, as good
Speaker 1: as it sounds, as good as it is to have
Speaker 1: on game day, I think it hurts the players progression too,
Speaker 1: and it definitely hurts them in terms of their stats
Speaker 1: and you know, relative to their contract and all that.
Speaker 1: I mean every year. I remember asking Tyron Crawford at
Speaker 1: least three or four times since he's been here, what
Speaker 1: is your position? And he's like a good question. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's a guy had to keep changing
Speaker 1: his weight back and forth dealing with that, and people
Speaker 1: don't realize. I when that came out, that the report
Speaker 1: and the news about him getting the surgery and being
Speaker 1: out for the whole year, I saw a lot of
Speaker 1: people on Twitter being like, well, doesn't matter, he wasn't
Speaker 1: doing anything. Like. What some of those people don't realize
Speaker 1: is how he actually impacts the defensive line and even
Speaker 1: if he's not the one making tackles or getting to
Speaker 1: the quarterback, he is still affecting the way that the
Speaker 1: rest of the guys on the d line are. He
Speaker 1: was playing really well last year, and I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, we said yesterday, I thought that
Speaker 1: was a big issue. Oh this year, you think that
Speaker 1: that I was making something. No, I didn't. I really
Speaker 1: like the way he was going out of yesterday. It
Speaker 1: kind of took me aback. And then afterwards when I
Speaker 1: heard the news, I was like, yeah, you thought the
Speaker 1: emplier was emptn't know that I mean that I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I knew, but like the writing
Speaker 1: has been on the wall, like you have. You know.
Speaker 1: I talked to Tyrone in the cafeteria back during July
Speaker 1: and kind of got the sense that I was like,
Speaker 1: I thought you would be further along with this than
Speaker 1: you are, and like not in like an accusatory way,
Speaker 1: but just kind of like this is a bigger problem
Speaker 1: than I thought it was. And then he was admit,
Speaker 1: he admitted, yeah, just kind of like you know, still
Speaker 1: working on it's still like really grinding hard in my rehab.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, like I didn't realize that's
Speaker 1: where this was. And then you know, he didn't have
Speaker 1: a training camp, and again you play two games and
Speaker 1: immediately have to sit down and it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: he might be ready to play, it's like, no, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna play. You just sort of you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't know he was gonna get shut down for the season,
Speaker 1: but I was like, this is a prod, Like this
Speaker 1: is more than you know he did try. Yeah, he tried.
Speaker 1: He's you know, Brandon Carr. Before he left for Baltimore,
Speaker 1: he bestowed the crown on tyrone of good dude, good
Speaker 1: player will never get credit for what he did. Because
Speaker 1: of what he made, They're gonna hate you. Yeah, here
Speaker 1: you go. You know your payment, your repayment for all
Speaker 1: the money you made. Is nobody's gonna like you. And
Speaker 1: my hope is my hope is based upon that they
Speaker 1: can find a contract that's a little more suitable to
Speaker 1: his role, yes, and keep him here because I think
Speaker 1: he's a valuable type player to have. He's just making
Speaker 1: enough money to where he gets unfair criticism in my opinion,
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe it's not worth the money that they're
Speaker 1: giving him for what they're asking of him. Maybe they
Speaker 1: get a deal that actually works for both sides that
Speaker 1: is a little more commenced what they're asking. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this, much like Travis Frederick, he's not gonna go
Speaker 1: anywhere like he's again, he is a big part of
Speaker 1: that culture, that locker room. Like he's going to be
Speaker 1: in every meeting. He's gonna be coaching the other d
Speaker 1: lineman like there's no obligation to be here when you
Speaker 1: go on IR And he's gonna be right in the
Speaker 1: thick of everything, just like Travis was. All right, Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and take our first our first break. When
Speaker 1: we come back, Nickell tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: the storylines this week, Cowboys versus Eagles, and then we'll
Speaker 1: get into breaking down this Eagle's offense with Dave Dad
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Speaker 1: the Break. Second segment of the Break live from the
Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star with talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: Versus Eagles. Nick set this thing up for us. There
Speaker 1: there's a story right on Dallas Cowboys dot Com each
Speaker 1: week laying out the five major storylines for each team.
Speaker 1: Let's talk first about those storylines for the Eagles. For
Speaker 1: the Eagles, well, obviously they're head coach Doug Peterson. You know,
Speaker 1: he had some headlines this week camp coming out and saying,
Speaker 1: I mean basically saying that day we're gonna go down
Speaker 1: there in Dallas and we're gonna win this game, and
Speaker 1: when we do, we're gonna be, you know, first place
Speaker 1: in the NFC East. I mean, I thought it was
Speaker 1: it was it was right on what he was saying about.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's definitely able to say that, and
Speaker 1: he did retract it a little bit and say that,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, we're playing for first place. Dallas is tough,
Speaker 1: and you know that they're in the same boat as
Speaker 1: we are, so you know, he kind of he kind
Speaker 1: of retracted a little bit, but I think he's got
Speaker 1: his message sent to his team for sure, and everyone's
Speaker 1: kind of on alert with that, and NBC, who's doing
Speaker 1: the game, probably loves it as well. Essentially, he said
Speaker 1: publicly what coaches say to their team probably every day. Right,
Speaker 1: we're going to win this game, so right, Yeah, Dave
Speaker 1: loves to cover a coach like that. Um, they you're
Speaker 1: like the third person to tell me that today. Never mind,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Taylor and lindsay, yep, yeah, wow, it's probably true.
Speaker 1: Cover four. I'm Berry. Berry didn't care about this. The
Speaker 1: Eagles cut Zack Brown because because, in my opinion, because
Speaker 1: he's not playing very well. But it really was convenient.
Speaker 1: He did say Kirk Cousins the weakest player of the
Speaker 1: Vikings team. He goes out and throws for three thirty
Speaker 1: three four touchdowns and the win. They were teammates together
Speaker 1: in Washington. The Eagles decided to cut him. I bet
Speaker 1: it's because he's not playing well and not because of
Speaker 1: that comment. I have a hard time of leaving. Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson's willing to say we're going to go down there
Speaker 1: and win this game. But he was so mad at
Speaker 1: Zach Brown for calling him the weak link that he
Speaker 1: cut him. No, no, it was about the play. It's
Speaker 1: about the play. But it was hilarious. I found very personally,
Speaker 1: found very amusing watching him after the game and they're
Speaker 1: asking him about his comments and he's like, I'm just
Speaker 1: here to talk about the game. You want to here
Speaker 1: to talk about the game before the game, So no,
Speaker 1: you need right you already. It was hilarious though. I
Speaker 1: thought it was funny. All right. The Eagles are getting
Speaker 1: some cornerback help back this week. Ronald Darby's been out
Speaker 1: with the hamstring injury, and Jaylen Mills has been out
Speaker 1: since last year with the Liz Frank injury. He's working
Speaker 1: back into practice so they get in two corners. They
Speaker 1: need it. They're twenty ninth in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: And pass defense. I'm sure we'll talk about that a
Speaker 1: little more tomorrow. To Shaun Jackson, he's been a Cowboys killer.
Speaker 1: He's got more receiving guards against the Cowboys than any
Speaker 1: other team in the in his career. He is something
Speaker 1: to watch. Working himself back abdomin injury. He's working himself
Speaker 1: back in. He's not going to practice today, but he
Speaker 1: could play in this game. And I needed a fifth point,
Speaker 1: and I went with the fact that you know, they're
Speaker 1: very similar to the Cowboys in scoring, but really the
Speaker 1: fifth point should be and I'll let Dave speak to this.
Speaker 1: They've ruled out their their tackle, right, Yes, that's huge
Speaker 1: Jason Peters, Well, it is until he tells you who
Speaker 1: they're going to replace him with. Well, and I mean
Speaker 1: they kudos the Eagles. They're really smart. They drafted an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle in the first round knowing that Jason Peters
Speaker 1: is ancient by enough, probably it's better than Jason Peters,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. No, it's his name's Andre Dillard. He
Speaker 1: came out of Washington State. I didn't look before the show,
Speaker 1: but I believe he was the first tackle drafted in
Speaker 1: this class. But which I mean, maybe he'll be great,
Speaker 1: but he's not rand a night the report on him. Wow. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just no, I mean no, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is you're not talking about a
Speaker 1: guy that was undrafted versus the guy that was drafted
Speaker 1: as the first tackle in the draft. There's a different
Speaker 1: you were like you were no, no, no, And I
Speaker 1: know I'm just saying. I'm saying, like there's a big
Speaker 1: difference between those two kinds of players. The report on
Speaker 1: Dillard is that he's very talented, but pretty raw. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Eagles drafted late, they went to the second round
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. This is not a guy they got
Speaker 1: in the top ten. This is not Joe Thomas. So
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say that he's ready to step
Speaker 1: in and be dominant against Robert Quinn from day one.
Speaker 1: But you gotta give the Eagles credit for foreseeing this
Speaker 1: as well as they did. And yes, I'm sure a
Speaker 1: raw first round pick is still more capable of stepping
Speaker 1: in than a lot of other guys that could, including
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie free agent um. So, the Eagles offense
Speaker 1: is very talented, but it for a variety of reasons,
Speaker 1: it has not translated in the way that you would
Speaker 1: expect at this point in the season. Some of that's there,
Speaker 1: and some of it's not. Their twentieth their twentieth overall,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're well, they're just kind of middling. Like
Speaker 1: they're sixteenth passing the ball, they're eleventh running the ball,
Speaker 1: they are ninth scoring. So even with all of their problems,
Speaker 1: they still don't struggle to put up points on or off,
Speaker 1: and they're one of three teams in the league that's
Speaker 1: got twenty points or more in every game, so and
Speaker 1: should be more in all honesty, And that's the thing is, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Dak is a lightning rod. Carson Wentz might
Speaker 1: be getting it even worse because he's playing pretty well
Speaker 1: this year. He's completing sixty one percent of his passes.
Speaker 1: He's got fifteen fourteen fifty through six games, which is
Speaker 1: just slightly behind Dakh twelve touchdowns, three picks. He is
Speaker 1: only averaging six point eight yards per attempt, which is
Speaker 1: interesting to me because dink and dunk Dak is over
Speaker 1: here averaging nine. So, you know, don't let narratives or
Speaker 1: don't let facts get in the way of your narratives.
Speaker 1: As I should say, the vertical passing game of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys is that now he's dinking dunk Deck. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's what people always call. They're dunking dunk deck never
Speaker 1: throws it. Yeah, it was very tongue in cheek. Okay,
Speaker 1: Dak's averaging nine yards per attempt, he's anything but. But
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is settling for fewer yards per attempt than Dak.
Speaker 1: Prescott to this point. A big part of that is
Speaker 1: probably because his receivers can't hold on to the football.
Speaker 1: They lead the league and drops seventeen. Actually, Dak is
Speaker 1: right there behind him, So speak something to what Dak's
Speaker 1: been able to do, especially not always having the people
Speaker 1: he'd prefer. But yeah, Deshaun Jackson's been missing for most
Speaker 1: of the season. Alshon Jefferies just now getting back. Nelson
Speaker 1: Agilore's struggles catching the ball have been immortalized by that
Speaker 1: hilarious dude who saved the babies from the fire in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia a few weeks ago. They called him out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Winz has not had a ton of help in
Speaker 1: the wide receiver department because of Jackson's absence. They drafted
Speaker 1: a kid named jj R Siga Whiteside, who dropped the
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown against Detroit in week I want to
Speaker 1: say that was Week three. Matt Hollins has had problems
Speaker 1: with job drops and even then, even when they're not dropping,
Speaker 1: I would say his receivers haven't been helping him out.
Speaker 1: It's been all over Twitter this week went through a
Speaker 1: dime to Alshon Jeffrey. Last week in Minnesota, Jeffrey kind
Speaker 1: of leaned the wrong way. I mean, he was two
Speaker 1: yards behind his coverage and wound up running out of
Speaker 1: bounds on what could have been an absolutely easy touchdown.
Speaker 1: Just stuff like that. Like Winz is not playing poorly
Speaker 1: at all. I just don't think he's getting a ton
Speaker 1: of help. Probably the way they're offsetting that is they
Speaker 1: have two very, very good tight ends. The Eagles actually
Speaker 1: run more twelve personnel than any team in the league
Speaker 1: thirty three. They have Zach Ertz, who is one A
Speaker 1: or one B with Kelsey in terms of best tight end,
Speaker 1: and then Dallas Goddard at the second round pick coming
Speaker 1: into his own playing pretty well. I would bet they're
Speaker 1: going to lean on both of those guys pretty heavily,
Speaker 1: even if de Sean Jackson comes back, like you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to account for both of them. Jordan Howard is
Speaker 1: the starting running back. He's very good, but the guy,
Speaker 1: like Miles Sanders, was one of my absolute favorite players
Speaker 1: in this draft. The Eagles are struggling to get him involved,
Speaker 1: which I think is a gigantic mistake. He's averaging nine
Speaker 1: carries a game and two catches a game, but he's explosive.
Speaker 1: He's averaging two catches a game, but he's averaging seventeen
Speaker 1: yards a catch. Last week in Minnesota, they sent him
Speaker 1: on a wheel route right through the center of the
Speaker 1: defense and again two yards behind the coverage, easy thirty
Speaker 1: five yard touchdown. Linebacker didn't stand a chance. It's the
Speaker 1: type of stuff I'd love to see the Cowboys do
Speaker 1: with Tony Pollard. But that's his topic a week. When
Speaker 1: you have some injuries at wide receiver, that's a nice
Speaker 1: That's another topic for another day. They're very good at
Speaker 1: converting third downs fifty percent. Peterson. We know he's aggressive.
Speaker 1: We all watched that Super Bowl. They went forward on
Speaker 1: a fourth and two at midfield in Minnesota. They actually
Speaker 1: didn't get it, but they're willing to. Like. This is
Speaker 1: a team that their coach is, I think, a little
Speaker 1: bit out in front of popular coaching tactics. So I mean,
Speaker 1: let's be fair, Garrett does that, I would not like
Speaker 1: Garrett is it goes for a fourth and one of
Speaker 1: the Saints and they gets it and Zeke fumbles. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Peterson's more aggressive, which and it's probably most
Speaker 1: aggresive in the league when it comes to it, and
Speaker 1: maybe outside of the Patriots. Yeah, they seem like they
Speaker 1: do it quite And there's the whole thing with you know,
Speaker 1: you saw him they went for two when they were
Speaker 1: up what they scored to go up seven against Green
Speaker 1: Bay and went for two, which I thought was honestly ludicrous.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the thing analytics people tell you, that's
Speaker 1: the thing to do. Is like, that's when you have
Speaker 1: the best chance of making it, and you can make
Speaker 1: it a two possession game. But I just take the
Speaker 1: easy points. Take the easy point. That's gonna put pressure
Speaker 1: on the other team to convert a two point conversion, right,
Speaker 1: Am I crazy for thinking about unless you weren't three
Speaker 1: or four years ago, But now with extra points are
Speaker 1: kind of dicey too. It's almost like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not as easy as we'll just get making the extra point.
Speaker 1: You know. Maybe, yeah, you're like, but I feel just
Speaker 1: as confident that we can run this route here to
Speaker 1: Jeffrey and we'll go up nine and put the game away,
Speaker 1: as you know, if it's if it's a slam dunk
Speaker 1: extra point. But I don't know how many kickers in
Speaker 1: the league are slam dunk extra point guys who they
Speaker 1: have Elliott his name is Jake, Jake oh boy, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jake Elliott, Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: have a team that's really good in the red zone,
Speaker 1: if you have a team that's really good in short yardage,
Speaker 1: then the argument, especially if you have a kicker that's
Speaker 1: kind of in then I think you can make the
Speaker 1: argument that you should go for two pretty often because,
Speaker 1: like you said, the likelihood of converting one is about
Speaker 1: the same as converting the other, and you do put
Speaker 1: an added pressure on the opponent if you can get it,
Speaker 1: so that like, honestly, it kind of I think they're
Speaker 1: playing better than the Dallas defense, but it reminds me
Speaker 1: of the Dallas defense in the sense of, like there's
Speaker 1: talent everywhere that hasn't necessarily translated to them being as
Speaker 1: fantastic as they should be. I mean, they're only one
Speaker 1: of three, Nick, you said, one of three teams in
Speaker 1: the league that scored twenty every week. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: not it's Seattle Baltimore in them Baltimore, but even Baltimore
Speaker 1: is leading New Division. So they're still having they're still
Speaker 1: having success, but they just they do not have that
Speaker 1: They do not have that explosive offense yet, and I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a big part has to
Speaker 1: do with the supporting cast, Like you don't have that
Speaker 1: guy that can take the top off the defense, like
Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson. You don't have just a reliable guy that's
Speaker 1: just gonna catch it. I mean, you know a guy
Speaker 1: that you can count on to make tough plays. Because Aglore,
Speaker 1: he's had his moments. They get him the ball a
Speaker 1: variety of interesting ways, but he's not reliable. The rookie
Speaker 1: Arsega Whiteside doesn't seem like he's ready for it yet.
Speaker 1: But man, and I don't you don't need me to
Speaker 1: tell you this, but Carson Wentz is he's really impressive.
Speaker 1: He's got some Aaron Rodgers to his game in the
Speaker 1: sense of his arm is incredible. He made he made
Speaker 1: a throw against Minnesota in this game last week. He
Speaker 1: was having the d tackle pushed back into him and
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating, literally falling away and just flips his
Speaker 1: wrist and throws a twenty five yards to Agalore and
Speaker 1: I mean it was completed, put it right out in
Speaker 1: front him and the coverage was good too. Like his
Speaker 1: arm is just scary talented, is way better of an
Speaker 1: athlete than I would say he gets credit for being
Speaker 1: a six four white quarterback or sixty three however tall
Speaker 1: he is. I mean, he looks smoother running the read
Speaker 1: option than Dak does in my opinion. Like he I mean,
Speaker 1: he can do that type of stuff. Obviously, he got
Speaker 1: hurt doing that a couple of years ago, so you
Speaker 1: want to probably be careful with that. But he can
Speaker 1: hurt you with his athleticism, not just running but extending
Speaker 1: plays too. So he's going to be tough to account for.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking what you talked about, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: Did y'all watch the Lions game the other night? Yes,
Speaker 1: the throw that he made to Jimmy Graham late in
Speaker 1: the game, Graham coming across the field and there's a
Speaker 1: corner coming off at the ball. It's like that ball's
Speaker 1: got to be absolutely perfect, not just really good throw,
Speaker 1: it's got to be absolutely perfect or it's picked yep.
Speaker 1: Just the confidence that he has to man, he put
Speaker 1: it right on them, I mean, like right on the money,
Speaker 1: you know, Like and listen, anybody, everybody knows how I
Speaker 1: feel about Dak. I think the world of him, But
Speaker 1: like that's that's the difference between the guys that get
Speaker 1: drafted in the top five, and you know, people thought
Speaker 1: Rogers should have been the number one overall pick and
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. Like Dak's great, he like not
Speaker 1: very many guys have that just god given ability where
Speaker 1: you can be getting murdered and put it on a
Speaker 1: dime forty yards away, like that's even when you're not
Speaker 1: getting murdered. I mean, you think about this last game,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of those drops were on
Speaker 1: the receivers because they gotta make them. But how many
Speaker 1: times a season have we said, but it could have
Speaker 1: been a better ball, Right, That's just DA's not the
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna always just put it right on the
Speaker 1: target where it needs to and that makes it a
Speaker 1: little tougher. Yeah, it makes it a little toughs It
Speaker 1: seems I can make those tough catches. Aaron Rodgers just
Speaker 1: needs Alan Lazard to go out there and make the
Speaker 1: make the you know the route as I say, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know Dak's capable of it. The Beasley throw against
Speaker 1: New York and he's thrown some dimes this season. The
Speaker 1: one to gallop against the Giants comes to mind. But
Speaker 1: like Wentz and Rogers just seemed to do that type
Speaker 1: of stuff five or six times a game. Yeah. Hey,
Speaker 1: the other thing I was going to mention and throw
Speaker 1: it to you. I know you've watched a few of
Speaker 1: the games. It seemed like the best at this offense
Speaker 1: has been is when to Shawn Jackson was in there,
Speaker 1: particularly in that first game at the second half, I
Speaker 1: think was when he really kind of went off and
Speaker 1: they started really just having all these bombs. How much
Speaker 1: does that concerned you, knowing that the Cowboys have some
Speaker 1: injury concerns in the secondary, knowing that, yeah, they give
Speaker 1: up the big play, how much does that all play
Speaker 1: into this thing? If de Sean Jackson's back, that should
Speaker 1: terrify anybody. I mean, the best, well not the best corner,
Speaker 1: and then you're starting nickel corner. Anthony Brown are both
Speaker 1: not practicing today. They have hamstrings, so even if they
Speaker 1: can play, that doesn't sound And that's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the Shawan Jackson to a t. Right. So people are
Speaker 1: gonna scoff when I say this, But like I would
Speaker 1: try to put Cheeto on him as often as I could,
Speaker 1: just because Cheeto has I mean, he ran twenty three
Speaker 1: miles an hour to catch se Quon Parkley, like, he's
Speaker 1: got that speed and athleticism to keep up with him.
Speaker 1: He might not win every battle, but you would think
Speaker 1: he's not going to get torched, whereas a guy with
Speaker 1: a gimpie hamstring might. That's true. And then if Byron
Speaker 1: Jones can play, which I think Jones has the best
Speaker 1: chance to play of those two corners, he can go
Speaker 1: up against Aglar. But if you if you have to start,
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan Lewis in this game, you know, and
Speaker 1: go up. And I like Jordan Lewis. I mean, I like,
Speaker 1: I think he's playing well. But I mean I al
Speaker 1: I meant to say, alshon jeff You put Alshon Jeffrey
Speaker 1: against Lewis. You don't love that hype matchup? You know,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're gonna have to make a move
Speaker 1: at at corner up Well, you know you got Alumba,
Speaker 1: you got Mike Jackson. Let's say Byron plays. Who who's
Speaker 1: still better though a bang dub Byron Jones or healthy Cheeto. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to make that choice because
Speaker 1: Cheeto's gonna play regardless. I mean, well, yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying in this scenario, like would you prefer I mean
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take my chances with Cheeto. Yeah again,
Speaker 1: just purely on health, speed, athleticism, straight line speed, which
Speaker 1: that's what scares you about Sean Jackson. And then Byron
Speaker 1: if he can play, he's got the length and the athleticism.
Speaker 1: Like Jeffreys game is more about length and size. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances. And do you think here's another
Speaker 1: big issue too, is that this is where they hurt
Speaker 1: you with their tight ends because zach Ertz is the
Speaker 1: guy that you would like to put a cornerback on
Speaker 1: if you can. You know, Byron Jones would be perfect
Speaker 1: to go up against zach Ertzn. No, not really. So
Speaker 1: what's Brian actually wrote about this for the site today,
Speaker 1: which and it's you know, don't kill the messenger. But
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be Jeff Heath that has to draw
Speaker 1: that assignment. And Heath made the play of that game
Speaker 1: in Philly last year where he broke up the fourth
Speaker 1: down pass that kind of killed Philly's chances of coming
Speaker 1: back to tie the game. Zach Ertz still have fourteen
Speaker 1: catches for I don't remember off the top of my head,
Speaker 1: but he had a nice day. That's exactly where I
Speaker 1: was going to go with that. If you're talking about
Speaker 1: letting Deshaun Jackson beat you on a fifty nine yard
Speaker 1: touchdown or letting Zach Ertz catch four or five passes,
Speaker 1: and that means they still have to drive the ball
Speaker 1: down the field without making mistakes on a long drive.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that. So in this instance, I still
Speaker 1: say do what you gotta do to make sure Jackson
Speaker 1: doesn't beat you deep, Like that's the first part exactly,
Speaker 1: and then you deal with whatever else you gotta deal
Speaker 1: with others. And the irony is that Cheeto contributed to
Speaker 1: a ninety two yard touchdown just last week. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I still think it's your best bet. But then does
Speaker 1: that also make the Cowboys change a little bit? They
Speaker 1: like to play that single safety hide. Does this force
Speaker 1: them in this instance to say, hey, this is a
Speaker 1: week we might need to keep both our safeties back
Speaker 1: rather than bringing a safety down because we gotta be
Speaker 1: able to protect the back end of the field. Hurts
Speaker 1: caught fourteen balls for one forty five and two touchdowns
Speaker 1: in that game. He if Yeah, So I mean that's
Speaker 1: it's like, this is one of the probably the most
Speaker 1: well rounded offenses and Cowboys have played to this. They
Speaker 1: have beat by the by the bad Falcons. You know
Speaker 1: they get beat I mean, but again, I mean, and
Speaker 1: you're right, they got beat bad by Minnesota. Minnesota beat
Speaker 1: him by eighteen points. But there are plays they left
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, yeah, everybody know. Agalore drops a
Speaker 1: walk in touchdown that would have swung that game. Jeffrey
Speaker 1: runs out of bounds on what would have been a
Speaker 1: crazy play. And by the way, the guy they made
Speaker 1: that first game, their offense looks so good, wasn't there.
Speaker 1: And that's the part I think is the big key
Speaker 1: or the John Jackson plays. It changes everything about how
Speaker 1: you have to defend their defense, their offense. Did you
Speaker 1: want to do with Jalen? Do you want to play
Speaker 1: him closer to the line or push him back a
Speaker 1: little more? Love? I don't love Jalen out in space
Speaker 1: cover right now down, feel like I just I personally
Speaker 1: don't think that's a that's a good thing, laughing because
Speaker 1: it's like my answer is I don't like him. At
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, They're going up against even tackles,
Speaker 1: so I don't So where do you like him? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we probably are giving Jen.
Speaker 1: We've probably given Jayalen a little bit too much of
Speaker 1: a hard time. I know I've been pretty adamant about
Speaker 1: that yesterday. But all that being said, I still don't
Speaker 1: like him necessarily in coverage situations and playing in space
Speaker 1: down feel very much. I'd much rather see him just
Speaker 1: being a linebacker going sideline. The sideline actually, you know,
Speaker 1: I like when he blitz he has he tends to
Speaker 1: have a pretty decent knack for blitzing, So use him
Speaker 1: in that role, you know, I know, you know, people
Speaker 1: criticize me because I make it sound like the other
Speaker 1: teams unbeatable sometimes, but you have to consider the Eagles
Speaker 1: are capable of running the ball really well too. They
Speaker 1: killed the Packers. You know, they averaged five yards of carry,
Speaker 1: ran for one seventy five in that game. That's before
Speaker 1: the Packers game. That's all we talked about was, well,
Speaker 1: the Eagles proved you can run on these guys. And
Speaker 1: so with the way the Cowboys have played run defense,
Speaker 1: like it's you can't afford to give up that part
Speaker 1: of the game because Sanders and Howard are both really good.
Speaker 1: Like It's not like this offense is purely a passing
Speaker 1: attack and that's only through for one sixty in that game.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about this offense, Like I said, it's
Speaker 1: well rounded. They have a lot of different weapons at
Speaker 1: a lot of different positions, and they force you to
Speaker 1: choose which one you're going to defend and pay extra
Speaker 1: attention to. And when you do that, they have the
Speaker 1: ability to be able to take advantage of something else,
Speaker 1: whether they do or don't, that's the issue. I have
Speaker 1: a hard time believing that the winner of this game
Speaker 1: will have fewer than thirty four points. I agree, this
Speaker 1: is going to be a barn burn. It's going to
Speaker 1: be a track me. You have a hard time deliving
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I do be saying that a
Speaker 1: lot in this I have a few thanks for calling
Speaker 1: out my radio tendencies on air, Amber. Thanks, Jerry would
Speaker 1: be so prepped I do. I repeat myself a lot. Sorry.
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Speaker 1: question from BA vander Muse. He says, m would the
Speaker 1: defense be better with Rod calling the plays? Over? Richard?
Speaker 1: I think Rod is better at knowing the flow of
Speaker 1: the game. What are your thoughts just if you took
Speaker 1: it from a big picture of what was happening last
Speaker 1: year versus what's happening this year. Is there anything that
Speaker 1: you can put your finger on as far as how
Speaker 1: the game's being called, things that they're doing strategically that
Speaker 1: may account for the differences in what we're seeing he
Speaker 1: was calling last year. Right, That's it's a poorly kept
Speaker 1: secret that Chris Rashard was calling the defense last year. Right,
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli, I mean tremendous respect for him, But since
Speaker 1: Chris Rashard got here, his focus has been the defensive line.
Speaker 1: He's the he's the rush coach. That's what he does.
Speaker 1: So like people want answers, that's it's it's weird, like
Speaker 1: the person is mostly the same. You could argue it's
Speaker 1: better because Robert Quinn is here and they're not playing
Speaker 1: as well, and I'm sure they're just as flummoxed by
Speaker 1: it as we are. But I mean, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't see this huge difference in tendencies. Honestly, even you
Speaker 1: go back to around this time last year, they were
Speaker 1: still making some of the same mistakes Seattle. Seattle torched
Speaker 1: him on long touchdowns twice in Week three last year,
Speaker 1: Detroit got him. Golden Tate was still in Detroit at
Speaker 1: the time, and he just abused the secondary for two
Speaker 1: long touchdowns. So you know, it's it's it's easy to
Speaker 1: think and they were good last year, but it's easy
Speaker 1: to think that everything was perfect last year, and that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily the case. They're playing poorly doesn't mean they
Speaker 1: will continue to play poorly. Obviously, the hope is that
Speaker 1: they don't. But I don't think there's like this magical
Speaker 1: pill or you know, somebody else called the defense and
Speaker 1: it will magically get better. I just think across the board,
Speaker 1: they're not playing as well as they were and they
Speaker 1: need to. And then the relationship between those two, I mean,
Speaker 1: from what I've seen, it appears to be really good,
Speaker 1: Like they work well together. It's not that one of
Speaker 1: them just overtakes one role completely and just has his
Speaker 1: own voice, and that's what it is. I think that
Speaker 1: Rod has allowed Chris Rushard to do his own thing
Speaker 1: and they do it mutually, and it showed that it
Speaker 1: worked last year. I just like that. I can't really
Speaker 1: figure out exactly what has happening this year because when
Speaker 1: you talk about the personnel, it's still the same and
Speaker 1: if anything, after a year, it should be better. The
Speaker 1: one thing I would point out there, though, is I
Speaker 1: think what we don't really always factor in is probably
Speaker 1: the two most positions, the two most important positions on
Speaker 1: any defense, your pass rusher and your top cornerback. Both
Speaker 1: those instances, those guys came into the season, came into
Speaker 1: season coming off injuries, Yeah, didn't practice drought training camp,
Speaker 1: and both of them had have a different time shown
Speaker 1: up on the injury report this year, right, So you
Speaker 1: start thinking about that from that perspective, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would expect that it's the same. You'd expect the
Speaker 1: personnel's the same. The fact matter is those players may
Speaker 1: not be as ready to do the things they were
Speaker 1: doing last year because of injury and because they miss
Speaker 1: training camp, right, and that may be something that takes
Speaker 1: a little bit of time for them to get to
Speaker 1: the point where they're playing at that level. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: not there yet. And that's and you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: the it's it comes with the dinner of being an
Speaker 1: NFL player. Unfortunately, is we spend all offseason like, well,
Speaker 1: they'd be ready for the season opener. They gotta be
Speaker 1: ready for the season opener. They gotta be ready. And
Speaker 1: then they're ready, but they're not necessarily ready and their
Speaker 1: play suffers for it. But what else, As DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: has said, nobody cares, nobody feels sorry for you. You're
Speaker 1: handsomely paid, and they're honored out There's well, okay, Byron
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus, that's fine. What about the other nine, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's it's a team sport. There's nine other guys that
Speaker 1: are well, we already talked about we already talked about
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't think I don't think right
Speaker 1: now you could make the claim that's Xavier, that Cheeto,
Speaker 1: that you know Heath, that any of these guys that
Speaker 1: that Jalen or vander esh are playing better than they
Speaker 1: played last year. That's my probably playing worst. So so yes,
Speaker 1: but they're not necessarily performing better well even the same.
Speaker 1: And I just, you know, I don't think it's as
Speaker 1: I think it's as simple as they're just not playing well.
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's not like, oh, somebody can come
Speaker 1: in here and call something better and it'll get better.
Speaker 1: I think they all just need to hunker down and
Speaker 1: play better defense. And you know they're we're talking about
Speaker 1: the last eight games I guess of last year. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't remember where they ranked after the sixth game
Speaker 1: after they beat the Jaguars, But I bet it's not
Speaker 1: as good as what it is this year. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just the perception of the the I mean, they
Speaker 1: just haven't they haven't played well. The Jets are not
Speaker 1: a good offense, and they let them make too many
Speaker 1: plays and they didn't win. They didn't take advantage of
Speaker 1: when the defense played well. But when you just look
Speaker 1: at the stats, I mean, the stats are show that
Speaker 1: this is a good defense. That's why numbers can lie,
Speaker 1: because the stats show that overall, this is the ninth
Speaker 1: best defense in yards, and then you look at points,
Speaker 1: it's the tenth best defense in points, So it shows
Speaker 1: that it's pretty good. Yeah, but it hasn't been good
Speaker 1: enough for an offense that's been just as inconsistent and
Speaker 1: they're not matching up well in the right games except
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. Feel like there's probably a lot of
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL that would take what the Dallas
Speaker 1: defense has done, but the expectations and rightfully so, like
Speaker 1: the expectations are higher than that based on what they did.
Speaker 1: And again, somebody else I had this conversation before the
Speaker 1: press conference day is like they're not bad, they just
Speaker 1: don't do anything great. And one like they don't have
Speaker 1: that one thing. They don't do anything explosive. Again, like
Speaker 1: to the leader on the team has two tackles for loss,
Speaker 1: I've seen Tank do that in one game before. Right,
Speaker 1: they don't do that, they don't stuff the run, they
Speaker 1: don't get takeaways, all that, and they need to be
Speaker 1: better because of the offense. Like they had a really
Speaker 1: good performance in New Orleans, but they needed to be
Speaker 1: great and outstanding and don't hold them to four field goals,
Speaker 1: hold them to three and then they could have won.
Speaker 1: So this this defense is not playing as well, but
Speaker 1: the offense has been crap at times, especially in the
Speaker 1: first half. So any it's to be better than that.
Speaker 1: I ask a question. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, you know the clip that was
Speaker 1: going around on social media with the players coming off
Speaker 1: the field and Garrett. Y'all talked about it. Yes, I
Speaker 1: don't think they did. Okay, well, I haven't been in
Speaker 1: the locker room just yet. Even after the game. I
Speaker 1: was listening to Jerry, so I didn't go inside. Do
Speaker 1: you guys feel or think or even in our having
Speaker 1: that perception of the team kind of starting to give
Speaker 1: up on Garrett. I would have to see more than that,
Speaker 1: more than Malate Collins, who you can't get him to
Speaker 1: you know, he's not that you know, outgoing anyways, and
Speaker 1: for him to see it, you know, maybe he saw it,
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't. I don't know. It's a five second
Speaker 1: clip of it, but you know how people react. Of
Speaker 1: course I do, and that and it's it's ridiculous, which
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we we probably take that for
Speaker 1: granted because of how close we are where all of
Speaker 1: us are like, that's stupid, and but I mean it
Speaker 1: is a valid talking point among fans and media right now.
Speaker 1: I saw it as four extremely pissed off and frustrated
Speaker 1: professionals who are like, probably more focused on whatever crap
Speaker 1: happened behind him than he was trying to high five
Speaker 1: of them. I don't ascribe a lot to it at all.
Speaker 1: And look at it again, was it more than one?
Speaker 1: Was like four of them? Two or three guys? Malik
Speaker 1: is the one who's really obvious in the frame. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't buy it. And again, you know, we
Speaker 1: we talked about this last year when they you know,
Speaker 1: they fell to three and five, and we had the
Speaker 1: same conversation and what happened after that. And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to say that you know they're gonna go on
Speaker 1: a seven game winning streak, but you know, okay, I
Speaker 1: think about I think about the Green Bay game that
Speaker 1: got Wade fired. I wasn't even here for that. But
Speaker 1: when when that happens, that's when, you know, not because MALIEK.
Speaker 1: Collins doesn't feel like giving out a high five, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Like in that game, it got
Speaker 1: to a point where it was literally a nick you
Speaker 1: you were there too. To me, it felt like as
Speaker 1: the game was going on that more and more the
Speaker 1: team was just kind of like not fighting, like and
Speaker 1: that's Jason's whole big thing, a fight Like in these
Speaker 1: games they've lost. These aren't games where they're just like
Speaker 1: not fighting. They're they're in these games even at the end.
Speaker 1: They just figures where I think that, But that's a
Speaker 1: problem that they have to take so long to get there,
Speaker 1: and it's a problem they're not figuring out how to
Speaker 1: win it. But that is a different thing than they're
Speaker 1: not fighting during the game. That's a whole different bang. Right,
Speaker 1: But who whose job is it to getting ready to play? Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1: And that's a problem. That's absolutely it has been a problem.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind them. Like figuring out how
Speaker 1: to win at the end is not the issue these
Speaker 1: three weeks. It's being present for the start and criticize
Speaker 1: Garrett all you want for that. Yeah, that's that's a
Speaker 1: huge part of the job. But I think the reason why,
Speaker 1: my personal belief is the reason why Wade got fired
Speaker 1: is because the team was no longer willing yeah to fight.
Speaker 1: They were basically they get down and they just got
Speaker 1: We're not at that point. Let's not forget too that.
Speaker 1: The night before the game, I mean, Rob and I
Speaker 1: were out at a restaurant, a watering hole. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: we saw his son, West Phillips, who was a tight
Speaker 1: ends coach or receivers coach or whatever at the time,
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, it's just been tough. We
Speaker 1: lose tomorrow, Dad's getting fired. And we were like at
Speaker 1: that point, we're looking at each other, like you know,
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, it's you don't have to be awkward
Speaker 1: about it. Everyone knows. I'm like okay. And then it
Speaker 1: lost forty five to seven, and then like yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it's fired. And this is a conversation for another day.
Speaker 1: But like it's it's hard to put a finger on
Speaker 1: like what that point is for this team. Okay. I
Speaker 1: mean I think everybody last year at three and five
Speaker 1: was kind of like this could be it, and then
Speaker 1: it turned around. I don't feel like we're there right now,
Speaker 1: but I I do wonder how far away that is,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you lose this game and go
Speaker 1: into the buy. I don't think Jason Garrett's getting fired.
Speaker 1: But it's it's not crazy to be wondering about it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's the thing. The
Speaker 1: part of it is whether it is or isn't. It's
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be the talking point. So that's gonna be
Speaker 1: swirling around the team if they should lose this game,
Speaker 1: and that's two weeks off. It's swirling around the team.
Speaker 1: And that's where you have to worry about. Just as
Speaker 1: the mentality of a team dynamic, how much does that
Speaker 1: start to seep into guy's heads and when they're going
Speaker 1: off talk to their you know, spending a little time
Speaker 1: away from the team, and their buddies are talking to them,
Speaker 1: and their families talking to them, how much that starts
Speaker 1: creeping their head? Man? Yeah, coach man, what's wrong with you? Coach?
Speaker 1: You know that kind of stuff is stuff you worry
Speaker 1: about when you're dealing with team dynamics. All right, we
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