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Speaker 1: If you want Colts Talk all year long, you're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. Caught over the metal. Michael Pittman Junior,

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman Junior takes it seventy five yards two the house.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor take forty nine yard galloped top pay.

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Speaker 4: Dirt in the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the podcast started.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Official Colts Podcast. My name is Jeffrey Gorman.

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Speaker 2: JJ Stankovitz is here and I'm gonna stick with you

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Speaker 2: for a second. What kind of socks? What's your shock

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Speaker 2: game today? Because that sock die?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What do you uh? How about that boy company man?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: You really love that?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: When you yeah, you need what you here?

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 1: I did a workout class on Monday, and my hamstrings

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Speaker 1: are on fire or so, I don't think I could.

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Speaker 2: What time of the day was that workout class?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: How about that, miam? He said that the other day

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Speaker 4: Rise and thrive?

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Rise and thrive is the name of the class.

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Speaker 1: It's good. See the only time I can go where

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Speaker 1: my kids aren't awake.

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Speaker 2: Any triathlons possibly in your future, let's know. No, there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why. Okay, let's go with that.

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Speaker 2: Understood well, speaking of triathlons, I honestly do think if

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Speaker 2: you could be ready for one. How's the mile? How

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Speaker 2: are we doing on the miles? O'Hay?

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Speaker 4: Good mile? So day one thousand, six hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 2: Six and fourteen consecutive days of running at least one mile.

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Speaker 2: That's that woman right there.

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Speaker 4: So the running is good. Biking, I think i'd be okay.

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Speaker 4: Not well, I just I haven't done it a lot.

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Speaker 4: And I did it as a kid, like I was

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Speaker 1: No litigate that, No to reltigate the Titanic.

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Speaker 2: It's a fun, fact filled show, okay, because we are

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Speaker 2: going to get to football. But something that I just

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Speaker 2: our lovely friend, Lara Overton, owns a nineteen seventy four

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Speaker 2: It's a pins gower that it absolutely looks like you

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Speaker 2: It'll go straight through a forest. Did you see the vehicle?

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Speaker 4: No, this has been a passion project of my husband's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so we're not planning to raid the territory.

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Speaker 4: think it's so cool. Right, So it's just aund dog

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Speaker 2: Lara Overton, at JJ Sankowitz. I met Hey Gordon, Hey Gorman,

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Speaker 2: The mail bag or a female bag, yes, or a female.

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Speaker 1: Baron made that joke yesterday and I left out loud.

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Speaker 2: I don't, And I had to think about it because

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Speaker 4: Have the I'm going JJ on some good ones this week.

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Speaker 4: I've just been firing off celender.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. But before we started recording, I was you

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Speaker 2: local establishment that the Paraguay will wasn't driven to. What's

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Speaker 2: it called the parent whatever it's called the parent the

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Speaker 2: death vehicle that your husband owns it literally is it's

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Speaker 2: in a rob zombie film, is what it is? That vehicle? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Episode next week. Drop drop a comment on YouTube too.

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Speaker 1: I'm the on the YouTube comments.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, drop a comment, drop a question, find out

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Speaker 2: about these do you want more socks? Answered socks questions?

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Speaker 2: They're right here. JJ Sankobitz at Learra Overton, one of

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Speaker 2: the most interesting ladies we know in Indian epis. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, who's going to talk about a crosstown

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Speaker 2: love to the Golden Black.

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Speaker 2: Now, you're in the heart of this thing right now.

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Speaker 3: stopping me and taking pictures. I rolled down when I say, hey,

436
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Speaker 3: can I help you? Oh that's John said equipment.

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on through, you know.

438
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Speaker 3: So I went there and Jim's hiding underneath it, and

439
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 3: then we'd go to spend the night at my apartment

440
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Speaker 3: about four hours and then we flew out of DC

441
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 3: and we didn't plan a Baltimore and then came here

442
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Speaker 3: in Jim's dad's jet to Indianapolis.

443
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Speaker 2: That is fascinating. The story is fascinating. I just want

444
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: to sprinkle a little something on top of that story

445
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 2: is the Colts went to Baltimore. And I'm gonna say

446
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 2: it's I will have to look it up. Two thousand

447
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: and four, two thousand and five, for the first time

448
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 2: that the Indianapolis Colts went in to play the Baltimore Ravens,

449
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: and I just remember mister Ersay. The words of mister

450
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 2: Ersay ringing in my head is we gotta have security everywhere,

451
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 2: you know, we gotta have security for my family. We

452
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 2: gotta have security for me and everything like. And it

453
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: wasn't as bad as you would have thought. The more

454
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 2: of the venom was directed at Robert Ersay, not so

455
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 2: much the sun Jim Ersay. Though. There was some incidents,

456
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, you know, one finger, middle

457
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 2: finger salutes and hey this that you were saying, stuff

458
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: like that. But the Colts have went back there many

459
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 2: times before, and it seems like the community of Baltimore

460
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 2: isn't teed off at Jim Ersays. It's more of a hey,

461
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: we understand you were doing what your dad.

462
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Speaker 1: As I've learned from talking to people in Baltimore for this,

463
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Speaker 1: every single one of them has just been like, and

464
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Speaker 1: they all call him Jimmy. We love Jimmy. Jimmy was great.

465
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Speaker 1: He was a member of the community. Yeah, he was

466
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, someone who was around. John Zeeman, who he's

467
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: the leader of the Marching Ravens previously was the leader

468
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Speaker 1: of the Cult Marching Band. He was featured in there

469
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Speaker 1: That Wouldn't Die the ESPN. Yeah, so I remember talking.

470
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Speaker 1: I was just talking to him yesterday and he told

471
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Speaker 1: me the story of that first time that the Colts

472
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Speaker 1: are back in Baltimore. He's down on the field and

473
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Speaker 1: he hears someone yell at him, Hey, why didn't you

474
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 1: say hi to me? And he turns around and it's

475
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Ersay. So you go, and you know, John Zemon

476
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: goes up to Ursay and says, you know, we had

477
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Speaker 1: a dinner date on March twenty ninth, nineteen eighty four,

478
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Speaker 1: and you didn't show up. Wow, Jim Jim I Ersay goes, yeah,

479
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: I was out of town, like just and you know that.

480
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 1: Then they you know, they had a nice little chat

481
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Speaker 1: about their families right right right sent like autographic pictures

482
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Speaker 1: and everything like that. The people of Baltimore love their

483
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Speaker 1: community and if you were a member of that community

484
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Speaker 1: like mister Ursay was, you know that they'll love you

485
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Speaker 1: back absolutely. And it's it's been a really neat thing

486
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: to kind of learn about Baltimore, learned the history of Baltimore,

487
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: learned the history of Indianapolis. Something that was put to

488
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Speaker 1: me in this project was think about like Indianapolis and

489
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Speaker 1: Louisville and Lara. You obviously know Louisville very well. How

490
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: both of them were sort of similar cities in the

491
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixties. They had a big college basketball program Kentucky Indiana.

492
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Speaker 1: They had one big event every year, the Derby the

493
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Speaker 1: five hundred, and population wise it they're about the.

494
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Speaker 4: Same aba the Kentucky Colonels.

495
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Speaker 1: Perdels and Indianapolis invested in their sports infrastructure and Louisville didn't.

496
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Speaker 1: And look at where they are now. Indianapolis is a

497
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Speaker 1: big city and Louisville's kind of Yeah, it's a nice town,

498
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Speaker 1: got some good stuff to do, but they don't have

499
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Speaker 1: an NFL team.

500
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Speaker 2: Wow, Sure, how that landscape changed.

501
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Speaker 4: That is true, very true. And you know, there are

502
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Speaker 4: a lot of still a lot of similarities, but the

503
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Speaker 4: big thing that separates them is the professional sports. And

504
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 4: there have been a lot of campaigns to try to

505
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: draw something, you know, to Louisville, if they could you know,

506
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: expand greater, you know, whatever it might be, and that's

507
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 4: just never been able to happen. There hasn't been the

508
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 4: support for it because I think that so many people

509
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: have already established those professional affiliations with teams in Indie

510
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Speaker 4: or you know, for a while it was Saint Louis,

511
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: or it's Nashville, or it's Cincinnati. You have too many

512
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 4: other professional sports areas in that circumference that people are

513
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Speaker 4: already drawn and kind of committed to.

514
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Speaker 1: It's difficult this whole Like, I'm so excited about this

515
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: because the stuff I'm learning is just fascinating. Yeah, the

516
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: Pacers are a huge part of this story. That they

517
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: were very unstable in the seventies when they made the

518
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: move from the ABA to the NBA, and there there

519
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: was pretty significant talk about, you know, Pacers might leave Indianapolis.

520
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: And if the Slick and Nancy had a whole telethon

521
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Speaker 1: telethon hosted by the late great Chet Copic by the way,

522
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: of course, if anyone knows Chet, yeah, rest is soul.

523
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: He was a he was a character.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

525
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: But if they didn't sell eight thousand season tickets at

526
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: that telethon, there's a really good chance that their ownership

527
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: would have just Okay, they're not viable here, let's move

528
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: them out West wo And if they had done that

529
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, all the momentum that Indianapolis had

530
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Speaker 1: been building toward. Hey, we're going to be a sports town,

531
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Speaker 1: as sports tourism destination, the amateur sports capital of the world.

532
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: That would have fell off. There never would have been

533
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Speaker 1: momentum to build the Hoosier Dome, and we wouldn't be

534
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Speaker 1: sitting here right now in this studio talking about the

535
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Speaker 1: Colts in Indianapolis.

536
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Speaker 2: So many, so many stories like that anyway around July.

537
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: Don't forget a behind the scenes look at the move

538
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: from Baltimore to Indianapolis and the characters that you normally

539
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: don't hear from. That's what I like about this. You're

540
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: digging deep on this stuff. So it's going to be

541
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: an incredible four part series coming up in July. I

542
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: know that's down the road, but look at it.

543
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Speaker 4: Well, one thing, the people you normally don't hear from.

544
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 4: I remember my first season with the Colts twenty nineteen,

545
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 4: we did this kind of behind the scenes type of

546
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: deal with the whipment staff and it was pulling teeth

547
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: to get John Scott to talk about just you know,

548
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 4: the logistics of the equipment operations. So it's so funny,

549
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: you know, because like John is just absolutely adore him,

550
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: and he has such an institution of this organization. But

551
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: in five years, how far we've come. That Now he's

552
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 4: one of the leading voices of the podcast and certainly

553
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 4: one of those who's critical to telling that story because

554
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: he's one of a handful of people that made that

555
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: move from Baltimore, alongside Pete Ward, alongside Rick Ventury, a

556
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: couple of you know, a few players as well, fuzz

557
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 4: back in the video department as well.

558
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that'd be great.

559
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Speaker 2: Anyway, it's coming out again in July to look for that,

560
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Speaker 2: and we will touch upon that because I know you're

561
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: gonna find out some more stuff that you can't keep

562
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: to yourself, because we're gonna have to share it a little.

563
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: Bit on this show.

564
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to current football status right now, and

565
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Speaker 2: I'm reading aloud on the internet. I'm reading on the

566
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Speaker 2: social media. I'm gonna start with jj jj why are

567
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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts so boring? That's what I'm getting. That's

568
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: not from me. That's not from me, But you're hearing

569
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: a lot of people this time of year, Lara, I

570
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: can't wait to get your thoughts on this. Eh, the

571
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: Colts are boring? We hear about these big time free

572
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: agents that are out there. They're gonna sign up. My

573
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: sources say they're coming in. But when you look at

574
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: what happened so far with this off season for Chris Ballard,

575
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: it's been pretty vanilla, which is not a bad thing.

576
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

577
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean.

578
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Speaker 1: When I was at the league meetings last week, you know,

579
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Speaker 1: you see people from other organizations who cover other organizations, Hey,

580
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Speaker 1: how's your off season going? You know, you talk to

581
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: people from uh, you know, the Chargers, and it's like

582
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: we're like drinking through a fire hose again. Jim Harbaugh here,

583
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, we you know, traded Keenan all and all

584
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: this stuff.

585
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh living in a like an RV.

586
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Speaker 1: By the way, did you have a little STI why

587
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: did they sign Gardner? Minshew? Like, you know, but you tell,

588
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, all my friends who cover the Bears, it's

589
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: just like stadium stuff. Number one overall pick, like they're

590
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: just you know, they're all justin biellonstrated. Yeah, yeah, and

591
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here being like, got the fifteenth overall pick.

592
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: Made some prudent moves in free agency, and the big

593
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: thing that matters is is, you know, Anthony Richardson going

594
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: to be able to have a healthy season. There's really

595
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: not a whole lot going on with the Colts right now,

596
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: but that's fine. Like, you don't want to be that

597
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: team necessarily that everyone's talking about in March, that doesn't

598
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 1: really matter. You want to be the team that everyone's

599
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: talking about in November, December, January. That's where and that's

600
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: where the Colts are building toward. You're not trying to

601
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: go out and you know, spend a bunch of money

602
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: on a player who you know, what's the the Chris

603
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: Ballard line that I know everyone hates. But you don't

604
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: want to pay b plus players a plus money rure.

605
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, that's what you're doing in free agency, but

606
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: to retain the guys who deserve to be retained and

607
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: to make a couple of little you know, moves here

608
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: on the periphery of your roster and then sit there

609
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: with the fifteenth overall pick and add talent at fifteen,

610
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Speaker 1: at forty six, at eighty two. That's it.

611
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Speaker 4: Not a bad play out Powerball numbers fifteen eighty two.

612
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: Like it's what I felt like, I don't know you

613
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: were just like, I don't know, it's just funny you're

614
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 4: rattling them off. I have a lot of thoughts on this,

615
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 4: and you know a few things. First and foremost, boring

616
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: is good because when was the last offseason there wasn't

617
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: turnover either from a coaching position, from a quarterback position,

618
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: or you know, glaring concerns about the status of your

619
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 4: quarterback point. So I think that everyone kind of this

620
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: is a good thing. We haven't been in this position

621
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Speaker 4: for a while, so let's think about that. The other

622
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 4: thing to me that is easy to overlook when you

623
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: say the Colts are boring that argument is because they

624
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: haven't brought in a ton of new players. There have

625
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: been some, right, Raykwan Davis being among them, Joe Flacco,

626
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: who we talked with of course when he was in

627
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: But the majority so far of the spending has been

628
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: in investing in your own What does that mean, Well,

629
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Speaker 4: it means that the Colts drafted well. Like it means

630
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: that you did a good job in the initial wave

631
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: of acquiring players so that you have obviously gotten the

632
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: most out of them on rookie deals and you now

633
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: have solidified and you know the guys who you have.

634
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 4: Isn't it better to have guys who you know and

635
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: you know their trajectory, and you have seen what they're

636
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: like in the trenches. You've seen what they're like through adversity.

637
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: They've seen the highs and the lows. Rather than going

638
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: out and being like, hey, we know that this guy

639
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: performed really well for insert team X. We don't know

640
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: what he's gonna be like in our locker room. We

641
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: don't know the circumstances that led him to be successful there.

642
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: Maybe he was successful because of the scheme he was in.

643
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: Maybe he was successful because of other factors, not just

644
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: isolated to him and his unique talent, skill set, production,

645
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: all of those things. So that's the other thing to

646
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: me is that so much of the excitement in this

647
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: offseason should be like, dang, we got it right with

648
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: all these guys, with Pittman, with Grover Stewart, with Taekwon,

649
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Speaker 4: with Zaiyir, with Rego. Who am I leaving off here?

650
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: I mean Kenny Moore, you know, not that he was

651
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: a draft pick, but he was a guy you acquired

652
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: and you know those.

653
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Speaker 1: And it's not even like it like Pittman was the

654
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: draft pick, but those other guys are third contract guys,

655
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: which like to have that many guys. You're like, we

656
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: want to keep those guys here on a third contract.

657
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: That's even more rare.

658
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: And also I just think too Shane Steiken has earned

659
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: a bit of continuity to this point. Allow him to

660
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: now go into a second season where he knows ninety

661
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: percent of the roster is the same. You know, I

662
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 4: don't know the exact you know, factor on it, but

663
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: let's just kind of call it that from what rather

664
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: than last year when it was build a new staff,

665
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: draft a quarterback. Let's throw it dart at the dartboard.

666
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: See if we get who we want. Now, you have

667
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: all right another year with this entire coaching staff for

668
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: the most part, couple of new additions here and there,

669
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Speaker 4: of course within obviously the defensive side, Alex Tandy on

670
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: the offensive, but you know who your quarterback is, you

671
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: know who your weapons are going to be. Offensively, you

672
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: know your entire offensive line. You've got the running back situation.

673
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to hit on that because this is

674
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 1: something that I have been I've been kind of like

675
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: holding in a little bit that I want to get

676
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: off my chest. If the Colts signed Jonathan Taylor to

677
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: that extension that they signed him to in October. On

678
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: March eleventh, we wouldn't be like, ah, cults are boring.

679
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: It'd be like, oh my gosh, look what they did.

680
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: But it's essentially the same, the same, It counts the same.

681
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: It's an extension that kicks in in twenty twenty four.

682
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: So just because the Colts signed it in twenty twenty

683
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: three doesn't mean that like you can just forget about it.

684
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: They paid Jonathan Taylor a lot of money on that extension.

685
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: That's a good thing, But you can't forget about it

686
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: when you're looking at the Colts off season and how

687
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: they're spending their money in the kind of player, what

688
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: they're doing, and what the plan is and the players

689
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: they're bringing in and keeping. Jonathan Taylor is a big

690
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: part of this. And if you just are like, oh

691
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: that was last that's not it.

692
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it almost see almost need an asterisk by it

693
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: to like be like, you know, plus Jonathan Taylor, you.

694
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: Know that money counts for this year.

695
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, listen twenty eight. I mean, if you're a

696
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: fantasy player, play him this year. It's gonna be all.

697
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: But let's be real for a minute. Let's be real,

698
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: not that you're not this football team. What is it

699
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: a half? What is it a quarter away from being

700
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: a playoff team with a journeyman quarterback. I'm talking about

701
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: a guy that they got off off the street. And

702
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: I'm no disrespect to Gardner, but I'm saying people know

703
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: around the league, this is a backup. This is back of.

704
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: This is what this shitting Stikeen did. They were a

705
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: quarter of away from making the playoffs with this team,

706
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: which transitions just to what you said, how many wins? Now?

707
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: Does that more? From Gardner to a healthy Anthony Richardson?

708
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: And that's the whole thing. Keep him healthy, He's gonna

709
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: do what he does. Everybody on the other side of

710
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: this wall has belief in him. But if that guy

711
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: can stay healthy for seventeen weeks, sky is the limit.

712
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Here's and that's what I'm I'm sorry to get pissed,

713
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: but that's like it. Those guys that we're talking about,

714
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: Grover Stewart find better. What do you want Keenan Allen

715
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: find better? He knows this quarterback, he knows this city,

716
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: he knows that locker room. Find better. So when it

717
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: comes to being boring, it's not even close to being boring.

718
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: Years let's have this conversation again in October or November, for.

719
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Speaker 1: Gods, where like I've seen this question of like, well,

720
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: how do the Colts get better this off season? Here's

721
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: how the Colts got better? Or if we get to

722
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: let let me rephrase that. When we get to the

723
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Speaker 1: end of January and we ask ourselves, how do the

724
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Speaker 1: Colts get better in the twenty twenty four off season?

725
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: The answer is probably going to be Anthony Richardson in

726
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: a full season. Ye, there's nothing you can do in

727
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: free agency, not probably in free agency that's going to

728
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: keep Anthony Richardson healthy throughout the season. Right, Like you know,

729
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: if for all the fans who thought we were trained

730
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: for Lagerius sneed, how's that going to keep it? How's

731
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: that going to keep him healthy? That might make our

732
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: def that might make the defense a little bit better.

733
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: But then you're committing a bunch of resources to that money.

734
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: Now okay, now what now we can have money to

735
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: resign kennymore right start, So just remember, and this is

736
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: why it's kind of boring right now, because the thing

737
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: that matters the most, We're not going to have an

738
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: answer for for what eight months about Anthony. So let's

739
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: just training camp probably, But I mean I'm saying, like,

740
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Speaker 1: Canny stay healthy for a full time?

741
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: Oh I s we were saying, yeah, right, Like.

742
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: His health is one thing right now, obviously getting him

743
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: back throwing, being ready to you know, but can he

744
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: stay healthy for a full season because if he does,

745
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: there is a lot of confidence within this organization that

746
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: he is going to make everyone else around him better,

747
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: and guys, that's how you improve.

748
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: We are now less than two weeks away from guys

749
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: getting back in the building for some of the voluntary

750
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: work too, Like this is coming up quickly. You know,

751
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 4: we don't in this too. It's it's worth stating like

752
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: there's very there are very limited opportunities that you have,

753
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of what you're able to watch

754
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: or see guys do. It's a lot of conditioning stuff,

755
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 4: a lot of running and lifting in those types of things.

756
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: But we are getting very, very close to that point

757
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: where you will see true you know, OTAs and mini

758
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 4: camp and you're going to start to see exactly what

759
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 4: this is going to shape up to look like come

760
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 4: late July earlier.

761
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: And the leader of that locker room, I'm sorry, usually

762
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback and I know he's a young man, but

763
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: he's gonna be there for those He's may not be

764
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: slinging in as much as he normally would coming off

765
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: the reheab, but it's a big off season for it.

766
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: You never know, like, we don't know where he's at

767
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: right when you get to.

768
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: O t A. But you said it best. We're not

769
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: gonna know for seven eight months, like in week five

770
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: or week six, the first quarter of the season, or

771
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: however you want to put it, that he's out there

772
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 2: and staying healthy. And if that's the case, the sky's

773
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: the limits. So for all you guys are out there,

774
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: you're keyboard general managers. I'll stay boring. I don't mind.

775
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: I do. I do. I do have a bit of

776
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: a beef with the term keyboard general manager. You're a

777
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: keyboard warrior. Who uses a keyboard anymore?

778
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: You got one right there?

779
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: I do. But like if you're if you're firing off.

780
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: Takes, it's a phone, still a keyboard. It's still a keyboard.

781
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: That's not when you know, I view like think of

782
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: a keyboard. I mean, yeah, there's a keyboard.

783
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 4: Still a keyboard.

784
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I figure a keyboard's got it. You gotta

785
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: have you know key physical keys you can punch in

786
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: and what is this? I think we need to update that.

787
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: To double Jay, do me a favorite? Take the l

788
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: on this one. And I'm looking at a keyboard on

789
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: the thing, So I mean, I don't know what to say.

790
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: You want to leave it to con I mean, Colin,

791
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: what do you think? Is there a keyboard on the

792
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: phone or no?

793
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, Colin, he's out. I love it.

794
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: That one so much to talk about. And obviously this

795
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: big Dave and Busters we found out that's coming out.

796
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: I don't know when. But the I mean he's a

797
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: collector of authentic jerseys with authentic autographs from him because

798
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: he goes in and bellies up to the bar at

799
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: Dave and Busters and then plays a few games too.

800
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: Let's here for Colin.

801
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: Let's hear it for Colin. All right, listen up one

802
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: thing to get us excited, Colin, can can you take

803
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: us out on this? More to come? Obviously Ota is

804
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: that Laura touched on in the NFL after what did

805
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: I say?

806
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: You said, Laura?

807
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: I said, Lara, run that back anyway? Listeners charge And

808
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: as Lara said, O tas are coming up. We're gonna

809
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: have a lot of that cover going on and getting

810
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: ready for the NFL Draft. Jay Jam's starting with you

811
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: on this one. Give me one play from last year

812
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: because there were many many. Oh I forgot we were

813
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: doing that that year. One play from last year that's

814
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: going to get me excited about the twenty four season.

815
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: And the reason I want to put an example out

816
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: there is Zach Moss. We love you, but he's no

817
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: longer a cult so we're not looking for Zach Moss

818
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: or the type of things. So one play in your

819
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: mind that gets Colts fans excited for what is to

820
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: come in twenty twenty four the season prior to the

821
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season.

822
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: What play? So when I was thinking about this, I

823
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 1: was thinking back to what what Shane Steiken talked about

824
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: last week at the owner's meetings, And there's just like

825
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: this one play where Anthony Richardson threw he like he

826
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: noticed no one was covering Josh Downs on a jet motion.

827
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: He just threw them the ball. He didn't even go

828
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: through his.

829
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: I love that you're bringing this up.

830
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a play that you're going to look

831
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: at and be like that gets me excited.

832
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: That's what I said to you that memory, that's a

833
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: play that.

834
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: Gets Shane Steikeen excited. Yeah, where where I think we

835
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: will probably go in is like a highlight right of Like, man,

836
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: that's like, that's the potential of this team. But I

837
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: just wanted to get that out there that like, there

838
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: are little things that Anthony Richardson did last year that

839
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: you're like, that's something that you as like these coaches

840
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: are like, that's a great sign. And it's not the

841
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: the rocket arm throw to Alec Pierce who are getting

842
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: wrapped up by Iaron Donald. Obviously that's exciting. It's the

843
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: he's processing stuff really.

844
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: Well and knew he had an Oprah receiver and knew

845
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: that there was gonna be a large gain and the

846
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: heck with the route tree up top, I'm going to

847
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: this guy right out of the gate. So you brought

848
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: that up to me when I said, same thing, JJ,

849
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: why are we so excited about this play? When you

850
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: broke it down like that, it makes sense, Lark, Can

851
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: I put you on the spot exciting play.

852
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: For let me let me go?

853
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: I didn't, Oh, I thought you were that was the

854
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: one that.

855
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: Was that was an example just kind of be like

856
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a total highlight. I think

857
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: about Jonathan Taylor's touchdown against the Texans. That was a

858
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: like that. Last year was a tough year for Jonathan Taylor,

859
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: right sure, like he has the surgery, he's on pup,

860
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: he's going through the contract stuff. You have to think

861
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: mentally and physically. Last year was tough on Jonathan Taylor.

862
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: And then you get to that last game and he

863
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: goes off with the playoffs on the line, and that

864
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Speaker 1: that touchdown run he had that just majestic, like you know,

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Speaker 1: the the sea parts.

866
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Speaker 2: At two or twenty three miles an hour or whatever, it.

867
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Speaker 1: Zooms into the end zone. That's the kind of stuff.

868
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Speaker 1: I think you're looking for Jonathan Taylor to do more

869
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Speaker 1: of that. And when you now drop number five back

870
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Speaker 1: in there, you want to ask how the Colts are

871
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: going to get better? How about a running game with

872
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Anthony richards and Jonathan Taylor.

873
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Speaker 2: Happy and content, you know Jonathan as well.

874
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Speaker 1: And a healthy Anthony richardson you are you are feeling

875
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Speaker 1: good about where that can go? And I think that

876
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Speaker 1: was just a little sneak peek into what might be

877
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Speaker 1: ahead there.

878
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Speaker 2: Hello, what do you got for me?

879
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Speaker 4: I think I keep this thing in back and I

880
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 4: just had to look to see when it was. It

881
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: must have been the first game. Was the first game

882
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Speaker 4: against Jacksonville?

883
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Speaker 2: Is that what this was?

884
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Speaker 4: I'm looking back at it when he spikes it and

885
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: it was like the most epic spike and it was

886
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 4: like short yardage, red zone situations. The athleticism that Anthony

887
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: Richardson brings, his ability to obviously make plays with his

888
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 4: arm and with his legs. For defenses to have to

889
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 4: account for the running threat of Anthony and JT that's

890
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: just just nuts. Just I'm thinking about that when he

891
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 4: charges straight in the end zone basically untouched, leaps, spikes

892
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: the ball like absolutely ridiculous stuff. So those are some

893
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: of the situations where the Colts haven't had a quarterback

894
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 4: with that ability to do those type of things. And

895
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Speaker 4: then also it's a lot of the improvisation that you

896
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Speaker 4: saw from Anthony and JJOS is something that you talked

897
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: with coach Steichen about when you know he was It

898
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily you know, the read as it was designed,

899
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: but Anthony was able to pick up on other things

900
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: and you know, call the audible and make those adjustments

901
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 4: that he needed to do in a number of different situations,

902
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: even with that small sample size. But Yeah, for me,

903
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: it's like those type of situations that what Anthony can

904
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 4: do short yard edge, you know, red zone conversion type

905
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 4: of situations, especially with running threat.

906
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, cults are twenty third in the red zone last year,

907
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: they're under fifty percent. That's probably gonna go up.

908
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: I'm talking about urpos man run pass options with twenty

909
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: eight there. Give it to them five, six, seven, eight

910
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: times in a row, and all of a sudden that

911
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: quarterback stops and keeps and you got a twenty five

912
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 2: yard gain on third down or whatever it is. That's

913
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: the sort of scenarios that I'm looking forward to. The gouge,

914
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: the gouge, the gouge to gouge, pass, uh, pass to score,

915
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: throw to score, run to win. Yep, I'm gonna see

916
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: a lot of that out of Shane Stike in this year.

917
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: All right, guys, at Lara Overton, at JJ Stankowitz, I'm

918
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: at Hey Gorman. The reason why we're bringing this up

919
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: again on Twitter X we need you and we want

920
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: to hear from you questions. Nothing is off limits, nothing

921
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: is off You want to talk about his sock collection,

922
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: bring it up. You want to talk about her husband,

923
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: who's a serviceman in the Austrian Army, we can bring

924
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: that up. Well close call. I'm just kidding. Dan Tucker

925
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Speaker 2: is not in the Austrian Army, but he does drive

926
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Speaker 2: a military vehicle from Austria.

927
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Speaker 1: That's that's called Jeffrey Paragraph paradigm.

928
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Speaker 2: Paradigm.

929
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Speaker 1: This is this is like the Portillos.

930
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Speaker 4: A recreational, just a recreation.

931
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Speaker 1: He's a car guy.

932
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Speaker 2: I know, I love it. And by the way, you'll

933
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: see you on the streets of Indianapolis sometimes maybe in

934
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: the northeast corner on something maybe.

935
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Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, may on occasion Castle area.

936
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Speaker 2: All right, anything else before we cut it loose because

937
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: we're coming back with more getting you ready for the draft.

938
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: The Colts Audio Network, you guys have great podcasts leading

939
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: up to the draft. You know about that as far

940
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: as what's going on and getting Colts fans ready, the

941
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: free agency podcasts that we had, the NFL Draft exers

942
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: that are coming up Colts dot com anywhere you get

943
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: your podcast you can find that. Also, JJ, what do

944
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: you got for me? As we say goodbye?

945
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: Clark's pretty good a basketball?

946
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we do.

947
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Speaker 3: Hey.

948
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: Also Final four weekend Purdue obviously Boilers looking incredible and.

949
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: Said that mostly so we would talk about Iowa basketball

950
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: before we mentioned Perdue on the podcast, just as a

951
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: bit I'm sorry Perdue.

952
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh.

953
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

954
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: I'm obviously an IU grad, love Indiana University, but had

955
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 4: the incredible privilege to cover Purdue when I was working,

956
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: you know, at the local affiliate at foxy nine and

957
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: CBS four and spent a lot of time covering Matt

958
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 4: Painter's team. And there are not many coaches that I

959
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: have more respect for than Matt Painter with the way

960
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 4: he constructs his program, the way he coaches, every single

961
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: thing about it. So from this Hoosier best of luck, Boilers,

962
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: hope to you know, hope to see you guys make

963
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: a run. Would love to see a national championship brought

964
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: back to the state of Indiana because certainly the way

965
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 4: I mean, just you think about too, I'm gonna go

966
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 4: a tangent for a little bit. But like the way

967
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: that Matt has run his program is it's not a

968
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 4: lot of these transfer portal guys. It's a lot of recruiting,

969
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 4: you know, the top in state talent type of guys

970
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 4: who he's gotten to West Lafayette. Obviously Zach Edy not

971
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: a in state product, but got a guy like Zach Edy,

972
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: but Braden Smith a Westfield guy. Mason gillis right, it's

973
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: just so many who are in, you know, in state

974
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 4: guys who have come in, they've bought in, they've developed. It's,

975
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Speaker 4: you know, not one of these situations where he's gone

976
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Speaker 4: and plucked a ton of guys out of the portal

977
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Speaker 4: and taking guys from other programs. It's just it to

978
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: me is one of the last kind of true old

979
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: school college basketball programs, if you kind of see it

980
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 4: that way, do.

981
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: You, uh, do you remember the one time that Matt

982
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: Paynter almost left. I don't Missouri twenty eleven. Missouri came

983
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: in hot right from Matt Painter. Yep. It was one

984
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 1: of the last things I covered when I was still

985
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: in college. Mike Anderson was the head coach there. He

986
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: left for Arkansas and Missoo's like, we want to take

987
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: a big swing, and they went hard after Matt Painter,

988
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: and it was it was getting a little dicey uh

989
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: for Purdue, but he he opted to stay at Purdue.

990
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: And I've actually, I've I've always kind of liked Purdue

991
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: ever since. I had a really chance encounter with Robbie

992
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: Hummel on my honeymoon. Oh yeah, we were on the

993
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: same Oh yeah, he's great. We were on the same

994
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 1: tour of Chinquitara in Italy, and I had a really

995
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: fun talk with Robbi Hummel about when Matt Painter almost

996
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: left and he's like, no offense, but why are you

997
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: making a move to a A It's a lateral move.

998
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: It's like done, take it. Like I know, I know

999
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: Miszoo basketball well enough. But ever since that, it was

1000
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: kind of like Purdue because Robbi Hummel really good.

1001
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: Dude, Hey, so many is this new Purdue? It is

1002
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: that new? Is that? Can I? Can I be mine?

1003
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean, we got two games left?

1004
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: Just say boiler up, boiler up.

1005
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: There you go, Purdue it anyway, if you got the

1006
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: best player in college basketball on your team for the

1007
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: last two years, and Zach Edy, it's kind of fun

1008
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: watching him going. You said it best. Let's bring a

1009
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: national championship back here to the heartland in Indianapolis. That's

1010
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: gonna do it. For the Official Colts podcast, Lara anything

1011
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: on the way.

1012
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 4: Out, Uh, you know, just a lot of behind the

1013
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 4: colts work going on, a lot of three draft stuff

1014
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: going on. We'll have a local pro day coming up

1015
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 4: here soon and then guys get back in the buildings.

1016
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 4: So we're gonna already ramp things up around here.

1017
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Speaker 2: Anything that you want available on.

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Speaker 4: Also, I make get ready for the eclipse next month, right.

1019
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Speaker 2: Next Monday, the eclipse that's coming. No. Yeah, a lot

1020
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Speaker 2: of people that are that are broken in for goggles

1021
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Speaker 2: right now. So I bought ten of them off off

1022
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Speaker 2: of a website and I'm gonna start selling them for like.

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Speaker 1: Six bucks to make sure that they're the right ones. Though,

1024
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Speaker 1: who cares, I just gotta make a Profit's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna get his David Busters.

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Speaker 1: He's got tickets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is. Yeah, that's fun.

1028
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Speaker 1: All right.

1029
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Speaker 2: That's another show coming up, the David Busters Holiday Extravaganza

1030
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Speaker 2: with our own column anyway for Larra Overton, JJ Snakovitz,

1031
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Speaker 2: I'm Jeffrey Gorman one more time at JJ Stankovitz at

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Speaker 2: Larra Overton. Next week I'm at Hey Gorman. We need

1033
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Speaker 2: your mail bag questions sent in. We will talk to you.

1034
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Speaker 2: Then enjoy the final four this weekend. Boiler Up Stop

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Speaker 2: Snap Snap Stops