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Yeah? 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: You been a busy week grinding out. 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Content on my way to taking a small amount of 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: time off for Christmas. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: Long you're taken off not you know, between Christmas and 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: New Year's that's like a week. 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: And even then if I get interview offers. I'll probably 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: just do it. 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: Anyway if it's like a big enough one, like. 25 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm always on call. Yeah, it's hard to say. 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: Now always on call. You just released the well. First 27 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: of all, I watched the first episode of You and 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: Lanta's show. I didn't finish it. I just assumed it 29 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: was gonna I didn't. I just knew. I just knew 30 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: crit wasn't gonna win. Yeah, it was. It was. It 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: was cool. It felt like some old school like Flavor 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: of Love type ship for sure. 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where we're going for But would banging at the. 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: End, Yeah, how was? I only saw a clip of 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: the scene where you five five the guys. 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: I think we fist bumb fist bum. He's a young 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: black dudes. I don't know if he would have been 38 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: comfortable with the full on Eiffel Tower. 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: I didn't see because for people, yeah, for people don't 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: know my Eiffel Tower, there's the you know, right, So 41 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: what was it like? Because were you there with Jason 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: Love and Atlanta? I wasn't around for that, So what 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: was it like? Being in it? Way better? 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: So much better because I felt like this weird little 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: bit of jealousy when she did this, the scene with 46 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Jason Love, even though I got over that pretty quick. 47 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: But in terms of us just shooting like me, him 48 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: and her, I mean I was into it and fucking 49 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: it didn't I didn't. I didn't have any like conflicted 50 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: feelings about it. It was all just good times. 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: Did you have any issues busting? No? None? Did the 52 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: other guy any was born to come? The other guy 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: was fine? Yeah, good because I heard the the previous 54 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: guy had to some I wasn't there. Yeah, you weren't 55 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: there to confirmed. 56 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't know Jason Love. He's in his own world too. 57 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I can only imagine that had to be 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: a I don't know, man. I don't know if I 59 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: could do it brat proculdn't get hard. 60 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Honestly, it took me a couple 61 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: of minutes. 62 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: It took you a while. 63 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Normally I'm hard, like on command, but it did. It 64 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: was like tugging on it for me, like four or 65 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: five minutes before. But once I got up, it stayed up. 66 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: It stayed up. Yeah, was was he? I didn't see 67 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: the video? So was he swinging? 68 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: Does he have a big dick? You're saying, yeah, he 69 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: got a pretty good one. Yeah, maybe not quite ad 70 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: Jason Love though to not. 71 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: But more than you. Yeah. Wow, yeah, you're fucking sick. Well, 72 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: I'm not going to pick a guy smaller than me. 73 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: I would addicted me, that's who's coming in here. I 74 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: would have been so transparent. 75 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people honestly were like, oh, he picked 76 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: him because his dick was smaller than a couple of 77 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: the other guys in the competition. Not really anything I 78 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: was thinking about. 79 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Does that dude do porn usually? Yeah, he's a big deal. 80 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh he is a big deal. 81 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's already popping. 82 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh so you ared already kind of seen. Was 83 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: everybody on the show besides krit maca porn so already. 84 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: There was this dude Chardley's who's like an internet comedian. 85 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that he would not have actually 86 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: done the fucking right. A couple other people too. 87 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: So, like Rat Dick Ralph. The show seemed kind of 88 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: like pretty set up. Obviously it was good. 89 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: The winner was not determined. Wasn't people think that we 90 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: had the winner picked out the whole time? It was 91 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Me and her were still kind of going back and 92 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: forth about it until the last minute when we when 93 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: we had to pick, but there was like a there's 94 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: an interview that we do at the end of on 95 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: episode four, the final episode, we're talking to them at 96 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: length and like little these personalities just kind of emerges 97 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: being so much bigger than the other guys that it 98 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: just kind of seemed obvious that he would be the 99 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: one who kind of was emanating the most star power. 100 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: And he's been cool about everything. Yeah, he's super cool 101 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: because it seems like the other situation the guy was 102 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: like kind of clout chasy a little bit. 103 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely talked to him about that so we 104 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: could avoid that mistake. 105 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: Hey, if we're going to do this, man, yeah, don't 106 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: be aware to be a professional. Yeah, be a pro. 107 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: Respect the marriage. 108 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: How long How many days did you guys film? 109 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: It was only two days. It seems like a little longer, 110 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: but two days quick. It's so fucking expensive to have 111 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: the whole entire reality crew there that, like. 112 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: And the rent the house. Did you guys need to 113 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: get permits? Yes? Oh so, you guys really fucking it's 114 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: a real production. 115 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: We hired like a crazy, like twenty person reality crew 116 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: to film and conceptualize the whole thing. 117 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: I've always told everybody because for whatever reason I've told 118 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: you this before. I think people think like we're a 119 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: lot closer friends than we are, and we're cool, like 120 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: you're my boy, you know, like you've done some libs 121 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: my way that I appreciate. 122 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't talk to that many people, but. 123 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: People like hit me up, like, what's up with your boy? 124 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: He's a fucking cook. This is weird, and I'm like, 125 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, maybe like and this always is 126 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: why I always say, you guys have been fucking women 127 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: on camera right for so long? 128 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 129 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: One dick comes out our left field, and it's like, 130 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they just act like you guys 131 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: aren't sex workers or performers or whatever you like. 132 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Even when we had our kid, I don't really remember 133 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: like almost anybody thrown it in our faces and being 134 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: like you shouldn't have a kid, you're a porn star, YadA, YadA. 135 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Whereas now it feels like every time all you hear, oh, 136 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: It's all people want to do is just tell me 137 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: about how I'm like violating the sanctity of traditional marriage, 138 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: and like everyone just kind of like willfully ignores the 139 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: fact that we do porn and art. Let's be honest, 140 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: clearly trolling slash ham it up to get as much 141 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: media attention as possible on pluck talk, right, which worked? 142 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I mean that clip you guys 143 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: sold with Jason Love had to be one of the 144 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: more I think you told me it was one of 145 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: the more successful things ever sold on that platform. 146 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Right, the biggest OnlyFans scene of all time. 147 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: Ever ever seven figures, of course, eight figures. 148 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: I want to want to take that leap. You never 149 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: know though. 150 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 2: In between, I look like around the five that's a lot, dude, 151 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: what do they keep? Like, I always wonder what is 152 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: only fan? What's their cut? 153 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: Twenty percent? 154 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: So they're keeping twenty percent? 155 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, so they're eating off everybody. 156 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: That's fucking great, there, man, Onlyfan, that's such a great 157 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: business model, saying right, damn. I remember when they were 158 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: gonna go away and then all the fake only fans 159 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: popped up. 160 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we spent like thirty grand to get a 161 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: fucking plug talk website built. And then by the time 162 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: I got done, OnlyFans seemed a lot more stable, and 163 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: so we never even ended up making the website. 164 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: Go live. 165 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: We figured let's just stick to only Fans. 166 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like if YouTube went away, you'd have 167 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: to figure some shit out. Like OnlyFans is kind of 168 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: like the new like standard if you're a content creator 169 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: even yeah, in the porn industry. 170 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: And I even know girls, like some of the biggest 171 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: girls in the industry who have their own website ready 172 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: to go, and they just keep it on the back 173 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: burner because only Fans is just so much more familiar 174 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: to the users that it's just it's a layup, Like 175 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: it's just it's just so much more effective to put 176 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: your content on there, and it's kind of sucks that 177 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: you can't necessarily present it exactly the way that you 178 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: want to present it, like you would be able to 179 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: on a website. But they go to your website, they 180 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: got to put in their credit card information. They go 181 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: to OnlyFans. Credit card information is already in there for 182 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: like almost everybody who would ever think about buying portant, 183 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: right true. 184 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's kind of like, if you're going to 185 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: go on YouTube to watch like all your content, why 186 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: would you go sign up for I mean, like shout 187 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: out to rumble, no, just to rumble, but I'm not 188 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: fucking watching nothing on Rumble. 189 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean I would if it came down to it, 190 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: but like if you had to, if I had to, 191 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: I would go to Rumble. 192 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: But it would take a lot. Yeah, it would take 193 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: a lot, especially like if you got like booted off 194 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: the platform or something. Yeah, exactly, that's happened with I 195 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: think what Steve will do. It happened with him. 196 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to have a backup. 197 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: But I don't know, do you guys get to see 198 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: like like the top earners because we saw the celebrity 199 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: top Earner of the Year thing on OnlyFans. Are you 200 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: able to see on the back end, like where you 201 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: rank and in the end of the. 202 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: Year they tell you your like percentage, Like. 203 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: You get to see top zero zero one percent. 204 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't give you any more information than that, 205 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: because it would be that would be pretty crazy if 206 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: we were able to be like, wow, we make a 207 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: little bit more than you and you but not as 208 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: much as you. 209 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: That would because I feel like some of these celebrity 210 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: numbers have to be inflated. 211 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people lie about it, and 212 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: I feel like. 213 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: The bad baby numbers are so fucking insane. Yeah, I 214 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: don't know. 215 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: A weird part of me kind of believes her numbers 216 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: just because as ridiculous as that eighteen million dollar a 217 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: month looks, it just kind of seemed like I when 218 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: I saw how I went from like eighteen million to 219 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: like eight hundred thousand as the months went by, I 220 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: was like, that seems like a normal rate of degrading 221 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: of income. But I don't know. If you saw the 222 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: guy who was like Ruby Rose's. 223 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Number one with him, he said there was cap right, yeah, 224 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: And so I feel like I think he's full of shit. 225 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: H No, no's that's a funny reaction that a lot 226 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: of people keep having to it is that they think 227 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: he's actually now covering up for his own perversion. But 228 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: let me tell you, I've known this guy for a 229 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: long time, so you know him. I've known him because 230 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: he used to be an assistant to a tattoo artist 231 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: who did some work on me. He one time came 232 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: to the store in like twenty eighteen and he did 233 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: a dab with lean instead of water. I guess he 234 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: was just trying to get some attention doing that or whatever. 235 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: And the thing about him that really made me realize 236 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: it was fake. Is well number one, one of the 237 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: top dudes at OnlyFans Corporate told me it was fake. 238 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: And then after that. 239 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: I realized just that he knows a lot of the 240 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: porn star girls that I know, Like he was on 241 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: FaceTime with Gina Valentina right after our interview, just talking 242 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: on some regular shit. So it's like, he doesn't seem 243 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: like the kind of guy. And also I don't think 244 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: he has the kind of money that it would require. 245 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: He's supposed to be a crypto whale. I think, yeah, 246 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: you think that's all bullshit. Yeah, So because he was 247 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: I saw a picture he didn't get a ruby rose tattoo. 248 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: He did get a ruby rose tattoo. It was just 249 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: kind of funny because I doubt she would ever want 250 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: to really see him again. 251 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: That's very that's committing. 252 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: You gave us some this super funny Oh my god, 253 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: I feel bad. Actually I feel bad even calling it funny. 254 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: But he had a whole week of media planned out right. 255 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: He was going to do Vlad. He flew to Miami 256 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: to do a freshman fit immediately after our interview, and 257 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: he was supposed to go on that. 258 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: Whatever pod we've been dming each other well, there's. 259 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: Another one that probably isn't gonna happen, I would assume, 260 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: but like the whatever pod. When I went there yesterday, 261 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: he asked me about that guy. I told him it 262 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: was fake. He goes, oh, we're probably just not going 263 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: to have him on. Then I'm like, oh, whoops, Vlad. 264 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: I think canceled on him as well, fake And he 265 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: flew out to do Fresh and Fit and they canceled 266 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: on him. Why when he after he already flew out there. 267 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: But I understand why, because what the fun can you 268 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: interview in this guy about if it's all fake? 269 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially I mean shout out to Ruby Rose if 270 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: this was her team, like hiring some dude. Oh it 271 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: fucking worked. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's not 272 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: a bad idea. 273 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: Noticing that I told Michael right away. As soon as 274 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: I saw it, I was like, we should do this. 275 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: We should say they find somebody, some guy, give us 276 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: one hundred grand. 277 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: Let's just find some dude, hire him, some fucking dude. 278 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: That to nobody who doesn't have any relationship. Credit Media Present. 279 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: They made it seem kind of real with the screenshots 280 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: of the. 281 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: With the texting like weird dude, from OnlyFans. 282 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: I was smart they and even this right here is 283 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: kind of like another round of attention on Ruby Rose's 284 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: only fans even And. 285 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: I've noticed too, like you'll scroll on like Hollywood and 286 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: Locke and they'll have these fake stories about like teacher 287 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: gets fired from their only Fans account, but it's really 288 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 2: like banger, Oh no no, but I'm not even talking 289 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: about that one because that was a real one. There's 290 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: been so many because we talk about shit on the 291 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: radio and my boy will be like, oh, this is 292 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: some some somebody got fired from their job or whatever 293 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: or and then we'll look and we'll be like, oh, 294 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: this is a paid ad. Oh yeah. 295 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: And now Twitter will add a community note, oftentimes informing 296 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: the public of oh, this is fake, like this account 297 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: got paid to post this, this is only fan promotion. Yeah, 298 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: so shot that thing going on. That's a very useful 299 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: service right there. 300 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 2: I always wonder, because I've been seeing the community notes recently, 301 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: and I always wonder if it's community notes who, like, like, 302 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: what process does the community notes go through to verify 303 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: in or not verify. 304 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: I think it's like Wikipedia, where there's just like a 305 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: team of like unpaid people basically communicating about it, and 306 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: like a large percentage of people doing the community notes 307 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: have to agree in order to add the community note, 308 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: although I'm sure that that could be gamed to some 309 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: extent because sometimes you see the community note pop up 310 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: and then it goes away. 311 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 2: Do you did you see the obviously you saw the 312 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: clip of Elon sayingle fuck yourself to Bob Iger to 313 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: all the advertising. Yeah, but he's a Hi Bob in 314 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: the crowd or whatever. Did you watch that full interview? 315 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: I did. It was pretty good. 316 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I liked a lot of it. I think he's kind 317 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: of in over his head with telling all the advertisers 318 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: to fuck off, because he's supposedly this like free speech guy. 319 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: And I can't think of a better example of free 320 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: speech than corporations deciding not to advertise with a guy 321 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: who's basically created a platform where there's a lot of 322 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: unsavory things going on, much of which he's co signing. 323 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: So I don't really think that he has any kind 324 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: of argument against those advertisers. The idea that he's going 325 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: to sue these advertisers for not wanting to advertise on 326 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: his platform is. 327 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: It is kind of anti free speech. Yeah, because they 328 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: have the ability to choose where they would average. 329 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: I like Twitter being what it is where there's a 330 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: lot of free speech, and it's like the only platform 331 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: where if there's a fight or if there's something sexual, 332 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I know I can put it on Twitter. I can't 333 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: put it on Instagram and YouTube. I'm gonna lose my account. 334 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: Can't put it on Snapchat, can't put it on pretty 335 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: much anywhere anything. 336 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: Try on Twitter. 337 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I appreciate that, but I also think that. 338 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: You had to put an episode on Twitter once, right 339 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: because you guys took that week off because of a strike. Right, Yeah, 340 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: we got a strike for like the dumbest shit ever. 341 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: I forget what it was. It was something about. 342 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: I remember the whole episode was on Twitter, though. 343 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to put it on Twitter. It was 344 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: fucking depressing as fun because nobody wants to listen to 345 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: a two hour podcast on Twitter. But we just wanted 346 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: to be able to put our week's episode out either way. 347 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: So I think if they somehow fix like the I 348 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: guess the uh just a platform for video watching. The 349 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: more and more YouTube starts like clamping down and like 350 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: fucking with creators, I could see Twitter eventually becoming like, 351 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: I mean. 352 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: But it's going to require advertisers, and they have to. 353 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: And they have to change. Like it's like you could 354 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: you just press play on it, Like it doesn't go 355 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: vertical or it doesn't go horizontal. It's just it's just 356 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: a hard platform to watch. 357 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: And it doesn't appear that a lot of people really 358 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: want to be in the business of hosting all this 359 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: video content because you look at Twitch. I mean, Twitch 360 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: could easily be a VOD style platform as well, like 361 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: live streaming, and you can upload your video after you 362 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: can't really upload videos on Twitch. 363 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: Fucking I think it's fifty fIF. 364 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they take a stupid ad raate, but you're talking 365 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: about Amazon, the richest fucking company in the world. Then 366 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: they don't want the headache of having Twitch turned into YouTube. 367 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: So that kind of makes me feel like Elon's biting 368 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: off a bit more than he can chew because it 369 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: doesn't like, you know, people aren't making really significant amounts 370 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: of money on Twitter, which I guess could change. 371 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: Dad, you probably know more than me, his face. Facebook 372 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: is still pretty solid. You still guys. You guys got 373 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: the Facebook booming right? 374 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: Facebook is pretty nice? 375 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh so where do you guys go from here 376 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: you in Atlantic because obviously you guys this, I mean, 377 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: does this keep happening? Is the the the door off 378 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: the hinges? Now when it comes to dudes, like. 379 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: Definitely gonna do more shit with other guys. But I 380 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: don't you know, we're not going to do like another 381 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: reality show to find the next guy that's just gonna 382 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: fuck or whatever. You know, for sure, if we have 383 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: an idea something, they'll take it to the next level, 384 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: then we're down to do it. But at this point, 385 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: I think we're kind of plotting our next moves. I 386 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: think that as like an overall umbrella idea for plug Talk, 387 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: we could kind of take like any successful content style. 388 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: Last night I was thinking about game shows a lot 389 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: and just thinking, like, because I know that some of 390 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: those guys like the Sidemen and the AMP guys and 391 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: everything Casanat and all them that they do basically game 392 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: shows that are kind of like ripoffs of existing game 393 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: shows that people watch on TV. 394 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: Right, it could do it, like the sex version makes. 395 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: Sense to me, But we got to figure out because 396 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: like I think me and her are both looking at 397 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: like how we exit plug Talk at a certain point, 398 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Like how do we build it into a business that 399 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: doesn't seem entirely dependent on me and her. And I 400 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: think we've taken some important steps with that because we 401 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: do we do these live orgies consistently on the channel. 402 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: We will you have it, some of it on YouTube, 403 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: some of it on. 404 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we do like a big panel like you know, 405 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: fifteen or ten people talking or whatever, and then everybody 406 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: goes with bucks. But if we could produce content that 407 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: would consistently do well and promote the porn side of 408 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: things and make it X rated, but then also be 409 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: able to have a version of it that goes on 410 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok and everything, I think that's perfect. So 411 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: I think we need to like basically figure that out 412 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: because we want to have another kid at some point. 413 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: So there's going to be a shake up in terms 414 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: of Lenna not doing content for six months or whatever. 415 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: As I was going to say, like is there. I mean, 416 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: there's got to be like the end game's got to be, 417 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: are you guys? I mean, y guys, I could do 418 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: this forever. 419 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: Not forever. But I will say that there's a lot 420 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: of porn dudes like Dread. Dread is fifty no, Yeah, 421 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: shopping in a lot of porn dudes are like fifty 422 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: at a certain point before they hang it up. 423 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking about just like the being married with a 424 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: performer being on camera. It feels like anytime some of 425 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: my favorite porn stars have ever gotten married, they usually retire. 426 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, we're having fun with it, Honestly, if 427 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't fun, then we wouldn't be doing it. 428 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: But and is it ever? Like? I don't like you 429 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: guys have always kind of had this type of relationship 430 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: where you guys bring women in right to the fold. 431 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: So I mean for me personally, I would do plug 432 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: Talk for free if I just got to fuck all 433 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: these girls. 434 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Exactly what I say, It's like, how do you ever 435 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: like you probably can never go back to just like, hey, 436 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: it's just me and you. Uh I think we could? 437 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: I think, like, because has it ever been that just 438 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: me and her? Yeah? 439 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: I mean before plug Talk, for sure, there would be 440 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: like months and months and months where we didn't hook 441 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: up with anybody else, especially on the pregnancy and stuff. 442 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like as I've gotten older, like 443 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: the thresome thing when I was still a civilian was 444 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: such like a coveted thing, like it was just like 445 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: I can remember every three something I ever had is 446 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: just the most exciting thing in the world, the fuck 447 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: two girls at the same time. Now having done it 448 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of times, I definitely feel like I 449 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: could just be a regular. 450 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: Guy, marry, hang out. 451 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely dinner, but I'm gonna be just chasing chicks 452 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: around on the club and shit, well into my forties, 453 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm not really seeing it. So I feel like I 454 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: could definitely be just straight monogamous. But I also feel 455 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: like if we were monougoists and we weren't doing porn, 456 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: we would probably start sort of being like, oh, well, 457 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: maybe we should fuck this girl together, Maybe we should 458 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: go out with her, maybe we you know, finding like 459 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: I think we would still probably find ways to want 460 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: to explore a little sod. 461 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: She end up fucking Josemas white wife, No, but I 462 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: would love to she when didn't she pull up? She 463 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: never did it? And what you do? 464 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: We did the interview and I was kind of tossing 465 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: it out there, like, hey, me and you doing porn, 466 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: what do you think? And uh, she didn't seem like 467 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: it was off the table. But she's still married. 468 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: In the same way in like twenty seventeen, a rapper 469 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: could go on your platform and it changes their life. 470 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: Are you guys kind of like the coveted platform for 471 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: any porn chick to try to get on, to try 472 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: to kind of change the trajectory of their business on only? 473 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, definitely we're a platform they could do that. 474 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, like if somebody wants to make a 475 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: bunch of noise by just doing a sex scene. In general, 476 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: I think we're like a great place for somebody to 477 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: pull up. Like, I know that we for sure moved 478 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: the needle big time on that teacher Brianna or whatever 479 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: they were talking about. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I 480 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: don't know. The market is very flooded in terms of 481 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: are you guys like content? 482 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 2: You guys have your pick every week. I'm sure like 483 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: we got X amount of people trying to do this. 484 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: Well, we have enough episodes right now to not do 485 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: it till March, so we have. 486 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: This fucking yeah, you're just racking them up. 487 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, some weeks we'll do five or six. 488 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 2: How would CJ. Miles? Oh she's a champion. Oh my god, bro, 489 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: I've been a fan of hers for a long time 490 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: on Twitter. 491 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: I can't wait for that one to come out. Her 492 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: interview is. 493 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 2: Mind blowing, very small. She's five four to seven, so 494 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: what was forty two years old? She's forty two? Can 495 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: you believe it? Fuck them Asians? DA don't age, bro 496 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: insane shit? What kind is she a Filipina or what is? Yeah? 497 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: Phil a shouts of Filipino women and men. Do you 498 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: not age at all? My manager's fifty eight and he 499 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: looks like he's forty. 500 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: I had a hell of a time not busting with her. Man, 501 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: shit was overflowing? 502 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: Was that like one of the better like recently? Because 503 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm assuming like this, Yeah. 504 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: She's hot, and it's something about her just being this 505 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: like miniature sized human but still being like basically a 506 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: milf though, was you never was just so professional the 507 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: way she was hopping on there? 508 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: You never fucked a midget? No, I'm so looking for 509 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: the right one. There's I've seen a few, at least 510 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: I've seen a few Twitter where you're like. 511 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, but it hasn't really happened yet. 512 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: Because like the thing about midget, do you remember the 513 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 2: old og porn star Pinky? I do so Pinky to 514 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: me was like she was like just teetering on midget status. 515 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: She really small. She was built like a midget. No, 516 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: you know, like midgets are real stumpy and thick, you 517 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 518 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: She was just like, can I DM Pinky too? I 519 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't hear back from her, although my girl probably definitely 520 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: doesn't remember Pinky, so it might have been kind of hard. 521 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: Explaining Pinky is. I don't. I haven't seen her recently, 522 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: so I couldn't. I saw a picture. 523 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: There was a whole thing where she was like they 524 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: took pictures of her in the fucking wal Mart or 525 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: some shit, and she wasn't looking so hot was great, 526 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: and everybody's making a big deal out of it. And 527 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: it's like, Bro, you could take the hottest porn girl 528 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: in the game and you show her with no makeup, 529 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: shitty photo. It's just happened with. 530 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: Ice spice people trying to talk about ip ice spices. 531 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: When you see that, you realize how confused a lot 532 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: of guys are because the way chicks look when they're 533 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: on camera fully dulled up, and the way they look 534 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the time, it's not the same thing. 535 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: And this is that's like a little boy thing of 536 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: like realizing like, oh shit, girls look different with concealer 537 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: and mascara and all this shit. 538 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: So's I kind of felt, no, shit, like have you 539 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: never had a girlfriend before? Does she look the same 540 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: from what you guys see? 541 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: But there is such a thing where like some girls 542 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: are hottest fuck with makeup, and they look still really 543 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: hot without makeup for sure, and then there's some girls 544 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: where the difference is quite drastic. 545 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: It is drastic. What is the latest with krip Mac? 546 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Obviously he's incarcerated. Have you got to speak with him? 547 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: Do you know what's going on with him? Yeah? 548 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: I talked him on the front of like two minutes 549 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: on the other day when I with Loupe and four Extras. 550 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: And there's a new girl named Carby Doll who krip 551 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: Mac has apparently landed himself in a relationship with since 552 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: he got locked up. That's the level of a riz 553 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: that my man Mak has we're gonna call him Rizmack, 554 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: is that he basically like found a new girlfriend from 555 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: getting a wretch gee wall, which is insane. 556 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: So is there any sort of idea like is it 557 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: a federal case? 558 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like he's saying that, well, I've heard that 559 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: the average sentence would be five years. Damn, he's saying 560 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: three to five over the phone. 561 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, would you because I saw like, should 562 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 2: Knight's got this new podcast that's over the phone. Do 563 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: you think there'd be a way to keep Kryp Mac 564 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: involved in content via the phone? That is a good idea. 565 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. 566 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: I haven't tuned into that. 567 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: Just to try to keep something going, keeping some motion 568 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: going with him, I don't know, you know, like I've. 569 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Never had good luck with talking to people on the 570 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: phone in jail and having them tell me anything interesting thing, 571 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: you know. I remember I used to talk to Draco 572 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: after he'd been locked up for a year or two, 573 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: and they don't usually seem eager to tell you about 574 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: all their fights and everything. And then the audio quality 575 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: of shit. So I don't know. 576 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean they obviously aren't going to 577 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: snitch on themselves, like I got into it last night, 578 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: you know. But I don't know. Maybe I just feel 579 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: like he was on such a he was on such 580 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: a climb right now, Like I just watched that Neon 581 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: video where threw the hot dogged dude and was like, 582 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: suck that. 583 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Shit, hot Doug ever, Oh my god. 584 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: I was like, krit Mak is on his way to 585 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 2: being in movies. This guy is on his fucking way. 586 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: So when I saw he got arrested, it was like 587 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: it was I don't even know, dude was It was 588 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: just heartbreaking. 589 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, like, you know, my girl always 590 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: saw me interviewing him and like didn't really get it 591 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: or like never paid attention to his ship. And then 592 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: she hung out with him two days on set and 593 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: by the end of that she was like, He's the 594 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: funniest person I've ever met. 595 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: She's just literious. 596 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: And like like he was the star of the show 597 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: on the Lennon reality show, like he just kind of 598 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: stole it. Like he just was so good on camera 599 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: and so funny. And I actually don't really think we 600 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: would have had a show if it wasn't for him, 601 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: or at least it wouldn't It wouldn't have been entertaining, 602 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been anywhere near as funny, because it's 603 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: like every thirty seconds to a minute, there's just a 604 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: cripmac line. 605 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: In the show. 606 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: And all the porn dudes are just very normal for 607 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: the most part. They're like, you know, if you want 608 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: to be a porn star, and you want to be 609 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: accepting the game. The name of the game is make 610 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: everybody like you. Don't offend anybody, don't piss anybody off. 611 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: Even like the other day, I made a joke about 612 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: Violet Myers on a podcast A Little d and My Girl, 613 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: and he said, would you bust in her? And I go, 614 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: hell no, I wouldn't bust in her. She's Mexican, which 615 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: you and me get the joke. Mexican girls get pregnant 616 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: a lot. 617 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: Whatever. Yeah, I mean I have two Mexican children. My 618 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: girl scared me right away. 619 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: She's like, you should you should call Violet and make 620 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: sure that she's not going to get offended by that, 621 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: which I was like, Okay, I feel you, because in 622 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: the porn game, you just really want everybody to like you, 623 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: because it could be one or two girls that don't 624 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: fuck with you that could really have a negative impact 625 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: on your career. 626 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: Well, I've noticed you've been You've even even like some 627 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: of the stuff if you told me off camera, You've 628 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: kept close to you and not revealed on camera even 629 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: though you could. But it's kind of like an unwritten 630 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: rule type of industry. 631 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: I am a believer in the porn man's code, where 632 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: he's just anything weird that happens on set. But even 633 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: in this conversation, there are things that have been complicated 634 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, on set whatever, and we just don't 635 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: talk about it. Everything was great, Everything always was great. 636 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: Nobody ever had a hard time getting boner. Everybody finished 637 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: as soon as they wanted to. It's just like, I 638 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: feel like, you're not supposed to talk about that stuff, 639 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Like you're not supposed to film the DP, like the 640 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: krypt Mac DP penetration. 641 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: You's so funny moving to LA And when my boy 642 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: was telling me about getting dp'ed once, I was like, bro, 643 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know about you know, the gang DP as opposed. 644 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: To yeah, being a sick fuck and you can't win, 645 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to win the DP. 646 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 647 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: If I'm getting dp'd and I start winning, more people 648 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: enter the DP and beat the shit idea, So you 649 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: gotta just just I mean then, but I still think 650 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: you're supposed to try to fight. 651 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: You got to kind of put up a fight, but 652 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: you don't want to. 653 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: You can't whoop his ass or the DP will probably 654 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: become a lot more extreme. 655 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, Uh, that's interesting. Well, they tell me 656 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: how first of all, shout out to you and Whack. 657 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: I feel like you guys have such a great chemistry 658 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: on camera. Yeah, I appreciate it. 659 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: That's that's usually my most fun hour or two out 660 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: of the week. 661 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's been a lot more consistent too, because I 662 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: know there's sometimes I would like just be off doing 663 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 2: whack shit, you know. 664 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: And yeah, he's Anglo desh selling diapers and ship and then. 665 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 2: He can't nick Cannon diapers exactly. 666 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Mayweather's investing. He's in the Congo. He's selling diapers in 667 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: the Congo. 668 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: I got a kid only using incredible diapers. 669 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: My belief is that when you go into business, you 670 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: should probably like primarily focus on things you understand. M hm, 671 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is what is Wag know about 672 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: selling diapers in the Congo. But if he can do it, 673 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: that's like the sickest thing ever. So I'm proud of him. 674 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: If he becomes the new face of diapers, then ship. 675 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: I was just telling him, tell me for like this idea, 676 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, Blippy, anyone who watches who has kids, the 677 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: guy the orange glasses, it's old whack that he needs 678 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: to become like that. He needs to become like the 679 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: brand ambassador for his own diapers, and we're gonna make 680 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: kids content and it's gonna be whacking a funny outfit 681 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: saying like, hey, this is how you count the four. 682 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: That's a good idea, right it is. I mean, I 683 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: don't know, man, he never ceases to amaze me with 684 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: like his pivoting. Yeah, because he's all of a sudden 685 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: now like you know, like he said on Your Shit 686 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: the other day that he's kind of like got so 687 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: much Internet cloud. People could just say something about him 688 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: and then they get clicks. It's kind of crazy. 689 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: It's funny to imagine if his diapers became super popular 690 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: and then you know, what, is there going to be 691 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: a Daily Beast article that's like listing off all the 692 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: offensive things that Wack has ever said on camera. 693 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: Like I don't buy these diapers at Target because the 694 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: owner said, you know, tupac or something right or all 695 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 2: these things, any list of crazy he said, Yeah. 696 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know, but I mean I feel like 697 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: Whack is kind of like post cancelation. 698 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't cancel Whack. 699 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: Whack would have to do something very extreme to be canceled. 700 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's just a few people that's like, 701 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna do, like. 702 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Because they're like leftover from a prior generation, so it 703 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: feels kind of wrong to like judge them by the 704 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: standards of today. 705 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: You know, that's hilarious. It is true. 706 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: It's like Boosy is like he just wasn't born in 707 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. He's an old school guy. Must people 708 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: that Boozy for who he is. You imagine how much 709 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: funnier Boosy's gonna get as he gets older. 710 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: And how much people would be disappointed if he actually, 711 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: like you know, succumbed to like being like, you know, 712 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: more more PC or. 713 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: I actually think now I've been thinking about it, lad, 714 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: I think they should teach about trans ship in school. 715 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: I've been thinking, yeah, like I imagine Boozy. 716 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: Fuck, oh my god, I'd be hilarious. What I thought 717 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: was dope was And I told Whack this like I 718 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: appreciated him being like a catalyst to kind of de 719 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: escalate what was going on between you and the guys at. 720 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I would be happy to give why credit for 721 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: something like that, but in actuality, that was entirely me. 722 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: I just chose to have the conversation with it. Like him, 723 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: he didn't even know that that was coming, and he 724 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: was entirely antagonistic for the most part. So it's not 725 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: like you really helped out too much, but he was 726 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: my sounding board. 727 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: For that conversation y to help guide the you know, 728 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: guide it a bit. 729 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, you've been talking to some of them off 730 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: camera and all that too, so I guess that probably helped. 731 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for you. I mean, if it feels like the 732 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: it feels like a lot more positive like this, this 733 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: negative energy is and hanging over both of y'all's platforms. 734 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: You know, do you feel like kind of a relief 735 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: since you've had that conversation on camera and kind of 736 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: like said, I'm going to de escalate this, I'm gonna 737 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: step back. Yeah. 738 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: I think like at various points in your career you 739 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: have to be willing to kind of zoom out, look 740 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: at yourself, look at what you're doing with your time. 741 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, even just on a super basic level, 742 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: I have this constantly where I'm thinking about what I'm 743 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: doing with no Jumper, and it's kind of like, well, 744 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm putting in this much time to earn this much 745 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: money from No Jumper, and in some sense, I'm kind 746 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: of ignoring my opportunit unity with plug Talk, which maybe 747 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: is two or three times bigger. 748 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: Opportunity on revenue. 749 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: And when I zoom out and I look at my 750 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: business and I'm like, oh, well, you spent a lot 751 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: of mental energy this week in arguing with people, and 752 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: nobody benefits from this or seems interested in this besides 753 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: like the small little nests of hardcore fans that are 754 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: talking about it on Reddit and stuff. It's not like 755 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: all the viral platforms pick it up. When I say 756 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: something I ate, you mean you. 757 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: Had some good rants. I hit you like, yo, you 758 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: you had some fucking real Paul Hayman esque WWE top notch. 759 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that in me. But at the end 760 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: of the day, it's just like, what is what is 761 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: the shelf life of this? 762 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: You know? 763 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: Like I can go viral doing all kinds of stuff 764 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't like impact my life. And then when I 765 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: saw that you exactly, I saw this shit happened with 766 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: Dub and it wasn't just like what happened on camera 767 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: with Dub. It's like I'm having conversations with brick Baby 768 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: and Dub after the fact, and there's just things coming 769 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: up in the conversation about neighborhoods and about groups of 770 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: people and they're not getting along and oh my god, 771 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: this might happen and shit, and I'm just like looking 772 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: at it and being like, Okay, you trying to make 773 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: good content on the Internet resulted in a situation that 774 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: could very easily turn bad, and. 775 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: Even that situation could spark. 776 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: And it's just like, what is the fucking point? 777 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: Why am I? Why am I throwing the over podcast beef? 778 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I realized in that moment, I'm just like, well, 779 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, you could just kind of like pull it 780 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: back and just wave the white flag and just take 781 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: a little take a little mini l right now to 782 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: basically spare yourself a lot of wasted end. 783 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: I think it's like growth. 784 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: I was surprised that, like, even the audience, who obviously 785 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: like wants to call me a bitch and wants to 786 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: point out me being a pussy whatever, they talked about 787 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: it for a day and then they were kind of 788 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: over it too, because I think to a certain extent, 789 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: like in the early days of US beefing, that was 790 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: the most viral content on their platform and then this 791 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: time around, it wasn't like it may have helped their 792 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: content a bit, they might have got more views from it, 793 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: but it's not like it was a you know, nine 794 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: months ago, where like the biggest clip on back on 795 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: FIG that week is going to be talking about me. 796 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Now it's it's just not really having that impact. And 797 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, I see Joe Budden and Rory Maul still 798 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: going back and forth and just sort of like subdiscing 799 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: each other and stuff all the time, and I don't know, 800 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: to me, that seems kind of silly, like you guys 801 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: have an opportunity in front of you, like why the 802 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: fuck is your energy still going into this? And granted 803 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: it's not like all their energy, but they're still just 804 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: kind of doing this song and dance and it's exact 805 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: same thing as us. And to me, I'm kind of 806 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: like you guys could probably just. 807 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: Like all of you guys have kids, all of you 808 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: guys are fathers, most of us, all of you guys 809 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: are well obviously I'm talking about like you know, the 810 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: Rain guys involved. Everybody's got kids. 811 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: Man, do know has yet to prove that he can appropriate. 812 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure he's he's all right, 813 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: another two in. 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Let's make sure those cocks stay hard. 877 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 2: All right, let's get back of the interview. Have you 878 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: heard from Lush at all? It looks like he's he's relapsed. 879 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard about that. I haven't heard from him. 880 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: A lot of people keep kind of hitting me up 881 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: asking if I want to have him on the podcast, 882 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of considering it, but yeah, the relapse 883 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: thing was kind of sad, just because I had so 884 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: many conversations with him on camera about him basically moving, 885 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: you know, or like on camera him talking about how 886 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: important it was for him to not relapse, and how 887 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: he couldn't really handle smoking weed or he couldn't handle 888 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: drinking from time to time or taking his zans or whatever. 889 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: He's cop two so far. So yeah, so you would 890 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: be open to maybe having him on just to. 891 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not angry at him in the way that 892 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: I was at one point, you know, But am I 893 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: dying to rejuvenate his career by having a conversation with him? 894 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: Because as soon as I started to think about it, 895 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: I pictured him going home and immediately doing a five 896 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: hour live stream talking about what we just talked about 897 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: on the podcast it's going to happen, and then throughout 898 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: the next week going on ten other podcasts to talk 899 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: about the fact that he just did a podcast with me. 900 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily know that I want to be 901 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: the one putting the battery in his back in that regard, 902 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: but it would be. 903 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 2: It might help him heal, It might help him heal. 904 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: I feel like that's like an open wound of his 905 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: life because this is the biggest shit that's ever come 906 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: up for him. Yeah, and he kind of fumbled it, 907 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: you know, he kind of fucked it up. 908 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: I think that there was probably a time period where 909 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: if Lush had died, I would have just never said 910 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: anything publicly. Yeah, And now I think that if Lush died, 911 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: I would probably like tweet rip Lush. So that's growth 912 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 1: is growth is a big step, right, So who knows 913 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: where we might be in six months from now. Maybe 914 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: I could actually talk to him. 915 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, would you ever, I don't know about 916 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: t Rebel, Would you ever entertain bringing ad back on 917 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: the podcast one day? Because it feels like that's the 918 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: one in relationship that was I guess as less disrespectful 919 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 2: in terms of the commentary back and forth. 920 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: Ady kind of yeah, that would probably be plausible. I 921 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: want to be super shocked by that happening. I think 922 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: that they're still kind of like ganged up over there, 923 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: and they just don't I think that probably if Ad 924 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: did that, everybody else would be looking at him like 925 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,479 Speaker 1: he was bugging. And I think it's basically like both 926 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: of us trying to prove that not just both of 927 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: us like me and a D, but really everybody's kind 928 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: of trying to prove that they don't need each other. Right, 929 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: So I don't feel like I'm not really in the 930 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: position where I want to like boost. 931 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 2: Their it up. But soon I'm talking about a year 932 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 2: from there, Yeah, yeah, I. 933 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: Mean I feel like, honestly, probably someday we'll just like 934 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: see each other and end up in a conversation or somebody. 935 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: There's already like people in between us who kind of 936 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: mentioned it of like I could get you guys on 937 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: the phone or whatever, And I don't think either of 938 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: us are super eager to do it. But I also 939 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: has Wack tried. No, Okay, not so much. Maybe maybe 940 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: to him. He hasn't really mentioned it to me. 941 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Wax would be the guy who 942 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: would just be like, I feel like he would do 943 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: it on camera though. Yeah, I'm gonna call ad right now. 944 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: If he didn't do it on camera, he would go 945 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: in clubhouse and literally just tell everybody every single thing 946 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: we talked about. 947 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 2: For sure. But is clubhouse still clubhouse? 948 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it's wax House now. It's just it's 949 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: just whack and like ten other people, I don't know. 950 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: He talks about it like it's fucking huge, but I've realistically, 951 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: like almost never been on there. 952 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: I think, is that a pound of mushrooms? Yeah? 953 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: I just had to ask if it was like pieces of. 954 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 2: Cardboard or it's obviously mushrooms you put on pizza, not anything. 955 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pizza mushrooms got there? Yeah, I forgot that there. 956 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: It's a lot of money, yeah, I mean it's not 957 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 2: that much. 958 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: That would be a weird day right there eating. 959 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: All of that. If I that'd be a weird fucking year. 960 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: You had a handful of that, I'll be on the moon. 961 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: Are you are? Do you doing shrooms at all? 962 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: I've done them throughout my life. I haven't done them 963 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: since they became like. 964 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 2: Normal thing, like you have a microdose or nothing. 965 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: I think the last time I did a serious amount 966 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: of mushrooms was like twenty fifteen. 967 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: Oh shit, so it's been a while. That was. 968 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, since then, Like there's been a couple of times 969 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: where I took a little candy or whatever, like me 970 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: and Sada Baby famously had a little funny shroom pod 971 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: one time. But yeah, I don't know, it was a 972 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: little freaky to me. 973 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: It's don't really good when you did them in twenty fifteen, 974 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: like were you partying or were you by yourself? 975 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: Or the time I remember, like damn, we were in 976 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: the Bay and we just like there's a bunch of 977 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: BMX homies and we were just hanging out in this 978 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: fucking apartment and just smoking like infinite weed and just 979 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: taking mushrooms and freaking the fuck out and then just 980 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: going out riding the whole next day. And that was 981 00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: giving my whole life back then. 982 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: Just shrooming and riding bikes. I don't know if you 983 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: should combine those two people take shrooms his pre workouts 984 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: now that they'll do a micro dose and then they'll 985 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: go work out. 986 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 1: To me, I get sort of self conscious and fidgeting. 987 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: Is this at the gas station? It's called feel Free 988 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: by the way, this this is this ship is supposed 989 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 2: to be like really, it's like supposed to be like 990 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: fucking opiates, plant based herbal supplement. Bro. They talked about 991 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: this on Joe Rogan. I bought a bottle because I 992 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 2: was gonna try it, and then I read about it, 993 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 2: and it's supposed to be like addictive, like opiate, but 994 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 2: it's supposed to it's supposed to be like fucking methan 995 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: a bottle, but it has a like if you take 996 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: it too much. 997 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: It's a method very different. 998 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 2: I understand that. But it's supposed to have you super focused, 999 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: but the addictive part of it, like you have withdrawals 1000 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: and ship Like Jesse, who used to be with the 1001 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 2: Nute Boys, was telling me about it. Really He's like, Bro, 1002 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 2: I don't He's like, I don't know. He took one 1003 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: right before. He's like, I'm addicted to this ship. He's like, 1004 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: I can't live off of them. They're at the fucking 1005 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 2: gas station. 1006 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: I miss getting fucked up. 1007 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: So I mean this ship is like right, it's what's 1008 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: the name of this ship that's in here. Oh Kava 1009 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: leaf and KRETM leaf. 1010 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: So you're saying, I take that, and I do I 1011 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: take that and focus? Okay, I haven't you took half? 1012 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 2: Right? How'd you feel? Weren't you all fucking like I'm 1013 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 2: taking some kratim. Yeah, it's taking a little so because 1014 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 2: I guess that shit was illegal for a long time 1015 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 2: and it became legal and these guys are just fucking 1016 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,479 Speaker 2: These fuckers are just slanging this shit. I just wonder 1017 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: what's worse that or the honey pack or the rhino 1018 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: juice that you get at the game. I've done a 1019 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: honey pack in the rhino juice before. Was it insane? 1020 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 2: It works? You know? We take Blue Choo over here though, 1021 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: promo cool bootleg. You know what, I'm all, Nashville dude, 1022 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can assume though, if you 1023 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 2: get to the point where, like you know, you're fifty 1024 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 2: and you still got to get that thing going, you 1025 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 1026 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: I hope that my survival isn't based on being able 1027 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: to get a boner on camera by the time of fifty. 1028 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've never I don't really have many problems 1029 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 1: on camera so I'm trying not to jinx it by 1030 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: taking ship with the guys. 1031 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: Do have problems on camera? Do they usually take viagra 1032 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: or do they take like do they well, they do 1033 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: a honeypack. I honestly have no idea. 1034 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: I actually had a porn start the other day telling 1035 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: me that the honeypack is fire. 1036 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 2: It works. Yeah, yeah it doesn't. It tastes fucking disgusting. Really, 1037 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: but they're readily available all over LA at every gas station. 1038 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: So wow, people giving me that shit all the time. 1039 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: I still never took one. 1040 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: See. The whole thing is is like I feel like 1041 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 2: nowadays is more acceptable for younger men to do that shit. 1042 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: I know they're fucking crazy. So I have homies of 1043 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 2: mine who are like dependent. If they're gonna fuck, they're like, 1044 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: I gotta get a honey pack. I know. 1045 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: I know dudes who take viagra every time they fuck, 1046 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: and it blows my mind, like, what the fuck is 1047 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: wrong with you? 1048 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 2: Why would you want to put yourself in that position? 1049 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: So now every time you fuck, it's almost like it's 1050 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 2: a mental thing that you think you're gonna have to 1051 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: take fucking viagra. Yeah, I was born horny. One of 1052 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: my homie like one of my best friends in the world. 1053 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 2: He's he has to He goes to Mexico once a 1054 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 2: month and gets bottles of viagra and like for himself, 1055 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: And I'm like, bro, like that can't be good for 1056 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 2: your heart. 1057 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to be relying on anything. Marty relyant 1058 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: on fucking coffee and weeds. 1059 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,479 Speaker 2: So, yeah, are you still dieting? Yeah? 1060 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: So that's fuck up sometimes, Like I would be in 1061 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: chiseled shape right now for the last six months. I 1062 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: had actually been on it, but instead. 1063 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: You know, what do you because you were doing like 1064 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 2: the eggs every morning, and yeah, I've been you lost 1065 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 2: a lot of weight, eggs and big in every morning 1066 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 2: for like my whole fucking life. 1067 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: But then I have like a meal prep place that 1068 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: I use. But then, you know, just fuck up, Like 1069 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: last Saturday, I ate a fucking pint of Ben and Jerry's. 1070 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 2: You know I'm opening a pizza restaurant across the street 1071 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 2: from Porto's, really yeah, and I just know I'm about 1072 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 2: to You got a bunch of partners on that or 1073 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 2: how's that look? Just just too okay? Yeah? You know 1074 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 2: I do. Yeah. Armenian eighty he's one of my partners, 1075 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: and then my guy who's a the pizza man justin 1076 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: not Piazza. I want to open a Schwarmer restaurant out here. 1077 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of those, yeah, but. 1078 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I could do it different because I 1079 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: used to go to, uh, the Hullal trucks. 1080 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: In New York. 1081 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're so sick and I feel like I've 1082 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: never found I've never found one that captured exactly what 1083 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: made those things. 1084 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: Open a restaurant and just call it Halal truck. It 1085 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: could be a mortar style. 1086 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 1: It's a good brand name. Hell because they have whole 1087 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: All guys out here. I think that's part of the problem. 1088 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: I love the whole All ship, but it's not that 1089 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 1: popular here. 1090 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: It's not fucking with New York. No, there's nothing. 1091 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: If you see one hundred food trucks out here, ninety 1092 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,959 Speaker 1: of them are taco trucks. 1093 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. No. If you you were in Austin 1094 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 2: and they had the Halal trucks on sixth sixth Street, 1095 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: right yeah, Oh really, I haven't had Austin hull all. 1096 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: I mean it's similar to New York. You get the 1097 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 2: fucking falaful, fucking pedah just to worship that ship. No, 1098 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 2: that's great now and then if you got do it 1099 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 2: in the valley, they got a good hall spot now Ensino, 1100 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: that's really good. My Jewish Homi took me there. Ship 1101 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: was fire. 1102 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: I ordered different hall all places off Postmits from time 1103 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: to time, and I have post mats, ain't it? 1104 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 2: Man? Never really hits the way I want it. I 1105 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: feel like nothing on Postmates hits the way you want 1106 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: it to. It's always a little hot or a little 1107 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 2: fucking cold. It just gets thrown in a bike. I 1108 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 2: never can do a salad on Postmates. 1109 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: But there are, okay, there are certain things like, uh, 1110 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: what's it called fucking nachos? You would never want to 1111 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: order nachos on Postmates, right because twenty minutes after the 1112 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: naos come out. Ship is what you do? You turn 1113 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: the oven on while the ship's on the way to you, 1114 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: and then you throw those nachos in the oven. 1115 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 2: It depends if you've got sour cream on your nachos. 1116 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: You don't want sour cream in the oven. What's the 1117 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 2: oven gonna do to the sour kream? Is just gonna 1118 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 2: crisp sower cream? Cold? 1119 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, No, that's a good point. But you say 1120 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: no sour cream and they put your own sour cream 1121 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: on after or sour cream on the side. Boom, no 1122 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: problem fixed. 1123 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 2: Uh you stopped doing a weekly show. Yeah, I saw that. 1124 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: You just said it was taking a break, taking a break. 1125 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: I've just been like so overwhelmed with doing interviews and 1126 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: we've kind of been between casts where there's not like 1127 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: a super locked in cast on. 1128 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 2: Because it was for a while it was just you 1129 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 2: brick baby baby. 1130 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: Then whoever, just trying different people, you know, And then 1131 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: I just I look at the goats of doing weekly 1132 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: content or even like academics doing the news or doing 1133 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: the streaming uh stuff and everything, and I just feel like, 1134 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do a weekly podcast outside of the Wakwan, 1135 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: which kind of carries itself because we have such energy. 1136 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 2: And it's great, great, yeah, but I just if. 1137 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a weekly podcast again, I just really 1138 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: want to be able to put my all into it. 1139 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: And I don't know exactly what that would mean at 1140 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: this point, but I feel like I would need like, 1141 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: like I look at Joe Bunnen in them and like 1142 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: the fact that they just get in that fucking room 1143 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: every day and just work on the conversation between each other. 1144 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: I think that's so sick. I'm just consumed to doing 1145 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: the interview, so I don't really have time to do that. 1146 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: Like almost every night Micro goes to bed at ten 1147 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: or and I'm like in the back house until one 1148 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: in the morning getting ready for interviews like that almost 1149 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: every time, like every night. Like it's just I'm so 1150 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: focused on and to like really be a great podcaster 1151 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, I feel like you just have 1152 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: to be willing to like actually put the prep in 1153 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: to like come up with your takes, figure out what 1154 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: you're going to talk about. 1155 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 2: Otherwise you're getting on Cameron winging it, and I hate that. 1156 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: I can't stand people who get on camera and then 1157 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: they just start reading Instagram posts off and that's the 1158 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 1: first time they thought about it. They don't have any information. 1159 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that so that platform like like that 1160 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 2: style of content. I agree fully, It's like you got 1161 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: to kind of prepare yourself on the way Steven A. 1162 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 2: Smith or Shanna Sharp does. 1163 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: Right, And they're lucky because presumably they have a big 1164 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: fucking team around them that helps them come up with shit. 1165 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: If I was gonna do a weekly podcast consistently again, 1166 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: besides the Wax Show, I would just have to be 1167 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: willing to put a lot. 1168 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 2: More into it. Yeah. 1169 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1170 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 2: My whole thing too is like even with interviews, Like 1171 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 2: my interview style was like I don't I kind of 1172 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 2: wing it the time. I don't and I'll see the wave. 1173 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: Ladd talks about it, he'd be like, I have my 1174 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 2: assistant to get notes, I'll do research, and I'm like, 1175 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'll do some like loose research, but like 1176 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 2: I'll kind of know front of lobe. Sometimes I'm like 1177 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 2: where the convo goes. 1178 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm casual. Sometimes I'm not casual at all. 1179 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: You know, one comes in here that I know is 1180 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 2: like a big deal, but I might not necessarily. Yeah, 1181 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 2: that's when I spent too five. That's when I'm like, Okay, 1182 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 2: let me dive into this shit. 1183 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: And I love that shit though, because like even yesterday, 1184 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: I was supposed to do a podcast with a Charlie 1185 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: Kirk who's a fucking uh. 1186 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 2: This was on the Whatever podcast. 1187 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: I was supposed to debate this dude about porn and 1188 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: porn being legal and all. 1189 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 2: That kind of sh that name. 1190 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the guy who started turning point in USA, 1191 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: which is like a huge conservative I feel like that. Yeah, okay, 1192 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: And I literally spent five hours before that conversation watching 1193 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: other porn debates on YouTube and just working on what 1194 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: my arguments would be in my head and trying to 1195 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: really figure out, like, okay, if he says this never 1196 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 1: happened and then the guy bailed at the last minute. 1197 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: But that is the kind of preparation that I like 1198 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: to put into interviews. Sure, always do that, but that's 1199 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: why me and Remo do a lot of interviews together. 1200 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: He's able to maybe do a little bit more of 1201 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: the deep Digg game specifically, like in terms of the 1202 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 1: Chicago ship and stuff. 1203 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: It's yeah, I got to do that, bro, like that 1204 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 2: whole fucking there's so much ship that you you talk 1205 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 2: about or that you're like people you're interviewing. I have, 1206 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 2: like the Chicago shit dog. I have never ever spent 1207 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 2: a waking second trying to figure out what's going on 1208 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 2: in Chicago. But you got all of the fucking I 1209 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 2: don't know. I just know Dirk's got problems with Duck 1210 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: who died, and his mom's on OnlyFans, and there's the 1211 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 2: guy with the Jay Maine who's really funny. I don't 1212 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 2: know his history in Chicago whatsoever. I just know him 1213 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 2: to be funny on your show. He's an op. Yeah, 1214 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: I don't know too many. Well, I only know he 1215 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 2: made I assume so because he had the Cereal box 1216 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 2: taking down right with the Dirk's turky. 1217 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: Well that was that was Dirk's friend BJ from O Block. 1218 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 2: Like, you go back and forth with people online, like 1219 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 2: recently there was a guy you're just like, I have 1220 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 2: no fucking clue who they are shout out to AOKD 1221 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 2: in the tent, No clue who that is. He's a character. Yeah, 1222 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 2: and he's from Chicago. Yeah, yeah, I just I mean, yeah. 1223 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: But that's the weird thing about the Chicago stuff is 1224 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: that you can interview some pretty marginal Chicago and it 1225 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: works and it. 1226 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 2: Does get a lot of views. Yeah, Like I did 1227 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 2: you know I had to get hip to what was 1228 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 2: going on in Jacksonville because I interviewed Julio. 1229 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: But like that scene in comparison, you have like a 1230 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: h it's more simple to figure out you have a 1231 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,280 Speaker 1: handful of dudes whose views whose videos would do numbers. 1232 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: But like, realistically, most of the tangential characters are just 1233 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: not going to do as well. And in Chicago, it's like. 1234 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 2: There's so many sub characters that you could talk to 1235 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 2: and all that shit, bro, Because I never was into 1236 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 2: drill music. 1237 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame it was never my thing. I 1238 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: like it, but definitely it's it's a lot to bite off. 1239 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 2: Like even like, like obviously I played Chief Keif in 1240 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 2: the club and shit, but like I was never like 1241 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 2: I understand Chief Keif's significance in culture and his influence 1242 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 2: on today's generation. I get all of it, but I mean, 1243 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 2: Chief Keef is ancient history, but it just but even 1244 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 2: then in twenty twelve thirteen, whenever that was I never 1245 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 2: like dived into, Like, you know, I remember seeing him 1246 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 2: get taken to the gun Rangel by Pitchfork, which you 1247 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 2: know it was way backed in, but I never really 1248 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 2: dived into any of that shit, bro. So like sometimes 1249 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 2: you'll be talking to people and I'm like, I have 1250 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 2: no fucking clue. 1251 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the general reaction to a huge percentage of 1252 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: the content of that How I do It's just like, 1253 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: who the fuck is this guy? But if you get it, 1254 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: you get it right. 1255 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 2: It's like the subjects like yeah, for sure. 1256 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: That's My problem is that I'm just like deep in 1257 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: so many subcultures. I guess it's not a problem, but 1258 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 1: I just have like so many little threats. 1259 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 2: And you haven't so many, like you have knowledge of 1260 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 2: all that shit too, So it's like for me, it's 1261 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 2: the same character. Like if I'm gonna do like some 1262 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: deep research, it's got to be somewhere. I'm like, Okay, 1263 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 2: this guy's doing numbers, and I really am not fully 1264 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 2: aware of what's what he's like, you know, the artament was. 1265 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: Putting the puzzle together and just kind of like figuring 1266 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: out exactly what's going. 1267 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, the way vladd does it is crazy. It's like 1268 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 2: art the way he like starts the interview, and it's 1269 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 2: just like, so in twenty twelve you said this is 1270 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 2: this in this interview, and uh, it's like. 1271 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: I'll always be like, Okay, we'll get to that. 1272 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 2: We'll get to that later on down because I have 1273 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 2: the driving this. 1274 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: Is the clip that I'm making right now, so we'll 1275 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: get to that. 1276 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's impressive, and I know he's probably 1277 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 2: got people helping him with research, and but like you know, 1278 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 2: I was one of the guys from Vivid Ramna Swami's 1279 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 2: camp had hit me, and I was like, if I 1280 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 2: do that interview, I gotta dive in. 1281 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not putting myself in the right circles because 1282 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: no presidential candidates are hitting me out. 1283 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to get RFK on my ship. Yeah 1284 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 2: he did so. I the guy keeps inviting me to 1285 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 2: like his his donor don't really He's like, come come 1286 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: to the donor event or whatever, and I'll see it's 1287 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: like a thousand dollars or something, and I'm like, oh lord, 1288 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 2: you know, I'm cool, but like, can we get this 1289 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,879 Speaker 2: interview off? Like it'll be on the radio all over 1290 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: the country and on my channel, like you know, but 1291 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: right then, But the Vivid guy, I think that might 1292 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 2: actually happen. Yeah, I just don't fucking you know. I 1293 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 2: know a lot about Vivid. I've watched a lot of 1294 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 2: the debates. 1295 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: We didn't remember his name last time we did this interview. 1296 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 2: We didn't. But he's done a good job. Vivid Swamney. 1297 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 2: Did you see the last debate? I didn't. I don't 1298 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 2: watched any of those. Now, Bro, that ship was like 1299 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: eight mile Bro really him and the broad Uh, what's 1300 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 2: your name? Nikki? Haley and then the fat fuck Chris Christie. 1301 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 2: He's surging. 1302 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: She has no chance against Trump, but she's gonna be 1303 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: surging for sure. She's like the biggest one besides Trump. 1304 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, this is wild, but they were snapping on 1305 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 2: each other like it was a rap battle. It was 1306 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: so distress. This dude Vivid told Chris Christy to get 1307 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 2: the fuck off stage and go have a good meal. 1308 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I said Jesus, Chris Christy, Really is it? 1309 00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: A disgusting human? 1310 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a fat, fat fuck. 1311 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 1: I've seen a clip of him drink he's hanging on. 1312 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: He was on the train in the morning coming from 1313 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: Jersey to New York and he had a shamrock shake 1314 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: in his hand, and it's like he did, you're already 1315 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: fucking three hundred and fifty pounds, You're already morbidly obese. 1316 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 1: You're waking up in the morning and drinking that much sugar. 1317 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: Like there must be so many people around him, like 1318 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: any sane adult who could tell him, right, part of 1319 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: a balanced diet, you're gonna die. And as like, as 1320 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: a candidate, being fat is a real liability. 1321 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 2: For sure, just like being an old fuck is. 1322 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: I know, I look at Chris Christy like you're a 1323 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 1: fat fuck, but I have. 1324 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: A heart attack. Shit, I don't know, it's crazy what 1325 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 2: you just said. I find myself doing that. I mean, 1326 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 2: I'm thirty six. I know you're a little bit older 1327 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 2: than me, right forty Yeah, but like I feel like 1328 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 2: we're kind of both in the same spot where we're 1329 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 2: looking at our health differently than we used to. And 1330 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: it it equals me judging fat people when I see 1331 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 2: them being fat. Yes, like when I see somebody who's fat, 1332 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 2: like me and my wife were eating at we went 1333 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 2: to We went to a spot, I think it might 1334 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 2: have been a buffet, some sort of buffet, and right 1335 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 2: behind us man his family came in. I'm talking each 1336 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 2: everybody in his family was like two fifty north to 1337 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: two fifty's a bunch of fat fucks just squeezing into 1338 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 2: this booth right And I just looked back and I 1339 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 2: was like, fuck, Like they shouldn't be, like, yeah, they're 1340 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,359 Speaker 2: gonna die. 1341 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: Like and through having a kid, I say that all 1342 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: the time, where like my kid she ate McDonald's one 1343 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: time in France with my girl, and then besides that, 1344 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: I mean she just eats healthy shit. 1345 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 2: Well, that's what sucks about me. I had my kid 1346 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 2: when I was eighteen, so I've kind of always just 1347 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 2: let him do his thing. So now my kid's eighteen 1348 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 2: years old. But the thing is that he drinks fucking 1349 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 2: soda all the time. And I try to tell me, 1350 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 2: you should drink some more fucking water, and he's like, yo, 1351 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 2: if I've been drinking soda my whole life, fuck you, dad. 1352 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,359 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, bro, drink some fucking water. I drink 1353 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 2: plenty of water. Stop ordering soda every time we get food. Like, 1354 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 2: my kid has no idea what soda tastes like. See, yeah, 1355 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 2: if I had a kid, If I had a kid now, 1356 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 2: i'd be on that wave. But I had a kid 1357 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 2: when I was I was a kid. 1358 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, we feed her the way that we feed ourselves. 1359 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, if we order food, even 1360 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: if we order like burgers and shit, it's like we 1361 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 1: don't even we hide the fries. If we get like 1362 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: desert or anything, we hide all that. So I used 1363 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: to think about the burger. 1364 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: When I had my kid, I was eating top ramen 1365 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 2: in an apartment, fucking microwaveol pizzas. 1366 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're not really holding us to a 1367 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: standard that's any different than us. And also we don't 1368 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: want to give her a fucking eating disorder or think 1369 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: that like there's something really scary about different foods and stuff. 1370 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 1: It's just like your maintenance diet that you're gonna eat 1371 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: in an average week should. 1372 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 2: Probably be pretty same. There's just certain shit that like 1373 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 2: I would used to I used to just fuck a milkshake. 1374 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 2: I used to. I just would just be like, nah, bro, 1375 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 2: I just the thought of drinking a milkshake just makes 1376 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 2: me like be like, that's gonna send me back a month. 1377 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: I remember there was a time period in my twenties 1378 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 1: where I would wake up in the morning and eat 1379 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: like a banana, like two bananas, and then I would 1380 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: not eat anything for like seven hours. And then I 1381 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: would eat a whole pizza and then crush a pine 1382 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: of Ben and Jerry's and that was my food for 1383 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, and I wondered why I had diarrhea. 1384 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 2: That's why, because I'm a person, or if I eat bad, 1385 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 2: that bowl is getting me too painted, me too pain it. 1386 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 2: Were you ever a soda guy? No, See, that's the thing. 1387 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 2: I've always been a fucking I love coca cola man, 1388 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 2: that's my dad. I like it from time to time too, 1389 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 2: but I don't really there's a certain shit that like 1390 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 2: I can't eat unless I have a soda. Like I've 1391 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 2: never been like that. If I'm getting tacos, if I'm 1392 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 2: getting a burger a slice of pizza, and I get water, 1393 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I doing? I love water. I 1394 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 2: drink water with everything I eat. 1395 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 1: I just need to constantly be wetting my mouth while 1396 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: I eat. 1397 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 2: No me too, I can't eat dry. My wife won't eat, 1398 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 2: she won't drink it, so she doesne eating. 1399 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't like it, but I like order popeyea sometimes 1400 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: and it forces you to choose a drink and most 1401 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,720 Speaker 1: of it's like, you know, mango, kool aid or some shit, 1402 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: and I'll get it and just I'll take one sip 1403 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: and then just dump it down the sink because it's 1404 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: just too much. 1405 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm just not used to that much sugar. For you. 1406 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 2: Where do you see no jumper going into into the 1407 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 2: new year? Because you know obviously you're you are, You're 1408 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 2: doing a lot, man, and I can only assume that, 1409 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 2: like you're seeing like the type of person who kind 1410 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 2: of is cognitively aware of when you were not inspired 1411 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: or not into something, because you've said that over the 1412 00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 2: last year. So like there's just times where I'm just like, 1413 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 2: what am I doing this right now? 1414 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: I'm just having a good time doing the interviews, which 1415 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: is really why I started No Jumper in the first place. 1416 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 2: It's just doing a lot of interviews. 1417 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: It slowed down for a little bit, but for a 1418 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: while it became like the focus of No Jumper was, Oh, 1419 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 1: it's a bunch. 1420 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 2: Of friends hang up with friends, hanging. 1421 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: Out talking, and it's like, all right, there's basically like 1422 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: two directions, two primary directions that I could go with 1423 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: No Jumper. I could do interviews and focus on the 1424 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 1: platform being about interviews and getting more interviews and building 1425 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: up interviewers. Or I could really kind of double down 1426 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 1: on the whole homies hanging out talking about shit. I'm 1427 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna be real with you, Like, from a financial perspective, 1428 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: the homies hanging out talking to each other thing is 1429 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: just not really the move because you got to pay 1430 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: the dude's a pretty good amount. As you saw with 1431 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: the thing when people left, they left they're going through 1432 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: that too, well, they were complaining, Yeah, they're probably going 1433 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: through it too. Yeah, but like they're complaining about I 1434 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: mustly getting paid, and meanwhile I was taking l on 1435 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: the content, you know, because it just doesn't earn as much, 1436 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: especially live stream. 1437 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Like if we're just gonna come out here and 1438 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: hang out for fun, yeah, Like I gotta make some money. 1439 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 2: I got kids. Yeah. 1440 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: And when I think about what I'm doing in my life, 1441 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: it's like, if I live streamed all of my interviews, right, 1442 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: I would have probably missed out on like, I don't know, 1443 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: like a million dollars this year, or like many hundreds 1444 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars, because chopping them into clips and 1445 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: putting them out like that is just so much more 1446 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: beneficial to us than putting them online and having it 1447 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: age restricted or whatever. And it's like, for me, at 1448 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I would like to do 1449 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: our interviews live. I mean, it's kind of scary because 1450 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: sometimes people want you to take shit down, you gotta 1451 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: cut shit out, whatever. But I got to think about 1452 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: the business side of things. 1453 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 2: Remember when Rogan was doing his shit before he went 1454 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: to Spotify, all that shit was live. 1455 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: A lot of people used to do it live and 1456 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: kind of realized at a certain point that it just 1457 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: wasn't really worth it. 1458 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 2: Hey, what up, y'all? I'm excited because I'm going to 1459 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 2: be flying to Tampa to DJ the odd Socks Holiday 1460 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 2: Party next week. 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That's what we're doing right now. All right, 1499 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 2: let's get back to the interview. 1500 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: You've kind of he's also someone who's not really trying 1501 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: to like make money through streaming on YouTube, which we are, like, 1502 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: we have to kind of pay for all our employees 1503 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: and everything by doing that. 1504 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 2: So for you, you've I've noticed you've reversed the way 1505 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 2: you were dropping interviews where you would do you're doing 1506 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 2: clips now than the full thing. Yeah. 1507 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: That started because of people like tjf Bezou and fybj Main, 1508 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: where I would pay them for the interview, and then 1509 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, okay, well, how are we going 1510 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,439 Speaker 1: to make the most money from this, Well, I guess 1511 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: we basically have to drop it in clips before we 1512 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: drop the full thing. And then we started just kind 1513 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 1: of doing that with everything for a while, and then 1514 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: I went like one month. I don't even know if 1515 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the fans noticed this, but I went like one month 1516 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: where I was primarily dropping everything full interview first and 1517 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 1: then clips on the clips channel, and I feel like 1518 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 1: the content kind of gets more attention if you drop 1519 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: a clip by clip and I see it how it 1520 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: is with Vlad. And I've found that Vlad is usually 1521 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: right about everything he's doing. He's just been doing it 1522 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: forever and he's so analytical and he's so like capable 1523 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: of looking at what is going to do what. But 1524 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, some of the interviews I like are with 1525 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: such fringe, niche characters that it just doesn't really feel 1526 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: right to drop it clip by clip. So I'm kind 1527 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: of like in a weird place where I want to 1528 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: drop certain things the full thing up front and then 1529 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: other things clip by clip. So I'm still kind of 1530 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. 1531 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying figure out what I'm gonna do with this 1532 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 2: the NBA Young boyd content I got because we got 1533 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 2: so much and it's like, hmm, we want to make 1534 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: sure we take advantage of it, you know, because it's 1535 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 2: a big situation. 1536 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Definitely, and knowing that the best moments from your footage 1537 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: with him are going to end up on Twitter getting 1538 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: millions of views that you will not participate in in 1539 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: any way aside from people saying like, oh I saw 1540 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: you in that young boy thing on Twitter. 1541 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, that's what happened. Every day I get 1542 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 2: hit with that big boogie clip where he's on my 1543 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 2: fucking platform and he was talking he said he got paid, 1544 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 2: like offer ten million dollars to go to college. 1545 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: I see people always saying like this was the biggest 1546 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: lie I ever told or some shit. 1547 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 2: It definitely might have been. So you're you're open to 1548 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 2: paying people for interviews nowadays? Is that something you because 1549 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 2: you didn't do that always, right. 1550 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: I never really did it before, But over time it's 1551 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, again, we all have our 1552 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: platforms and you got to look at it as a 1553 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 1: business and it's like sometimes you know, I'll pay a 1554 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: couple thousand for an interview and make ten thousand or 1555 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand. 1556 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the trade off makes sense, and you're gonna 1557 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 2: pay for the ones you know you're gonna get your 1558 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 2: money back on. 1559 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 1: And I think it's just only fair because to a 1560 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: certain extent, like, you know, the people are not idiots, 1561 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: like somebody like fybj Main, Like what reason would he 1562 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: have to go do a bunch of podcasts aside from 1563 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: getting paid from him? If he knows, then no jumper 1564 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: is going to make ten thousand dollars off doing an 1565 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: interview with him. He's going to get in there and 1566 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: say I want three, I want four thousand, I want whatever. 1567 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 2: And yeah, he hit me right because I DMed him. 1568 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, you're funny. Come on the show 1569 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 2: sometime and he's trying to get bag and he said, hey, man, 1570 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 2: it's not what I do over here, buddy, but much 1571 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 2: love to you. But I understand. I say, keep hustling. 1572 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 2: I am mad at you. Though. Same thing with krit Max. 1573 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 2: He only got considered paying. He wanted five hundred dollars. 1574 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 2: But I was like, at the time, he was doing 1575 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 2: so many interviews, Yeah, what are you gonna ask him this? Right? 1576 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 2: And so I was like I was like, yo, what 1577 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 2: I was like, maybe we go skydiving or something like 1578 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like some random shit, you know, 1579 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 2: like that's very mack adventures those But then he started 1580 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 2: doing that. Yeah, so it was like, ah, they're already 1581 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 2: kind of you know. 1582 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Because that's the whole thing with with with Jy Maine 1583 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: is this that like he does content on his own 1584 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: platform as well. He does little interviews with Taste Savage 1585 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 1: and shit like that, and it's like, well that content 1586 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: he knows exactly how much of that cart that makes, 1587 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: so he could probably go the math and figure out 1588 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: how much. 1589 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 2: Money I'm making off of them. So yeah, Like we 1590 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 2: just did a video of log with mexicanot where we 1591 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 2: went in murder hogs and helicopter. Yeah, and it did great, 1592 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 2: but like really like we didn't make money off it, 1593 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 2: just kind of paid for the trip paid for itself. Yeah, 1594 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 2: which is fine though because it was a dope video 1595 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 2: and it brought a bunch of subscribers and it kind 1596 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 2: of you know, I think it's like the second vlog 1597 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 2: we've done, because you've been doing blogs forever, I have it. 1598 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 2: So that was the second one we ever did. Yeah, 1599 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 2: and so the first one was did really well, the 1600 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 2: second one did well, So it was like, you know 1601 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 2: what this is, We don't have to make money on this. 1602 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's good to just do shit in general, 1603 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Like if I go to you know, I mean, really, 1604 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 1: if I'm going to go do a vlog, even in 1605 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: like the LA area, even if it's like a day trip, 1606 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna have to make kind of a 1607 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: significant amount of money to cover, like, you know, the 1608 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: film I was obviously my film was were like on 1609 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: salary and shit like that, but like even just having 1610 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: security with you, all of a sudden, then it's like, oh, Okay, 1611 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: this content is costing quite a bit more because you 1612 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: got to pay for all these different things. I don't 1613 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: necessarily think that like us doing like vologs make sense 1614 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 1: if you have a big idea that's going to really 1615 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 1: like get the viewers in. But the viewers are allergic 1616 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: to like lazy content at this point. They just know 1617 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: And it did not used to be like that. People 1618 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: used to watch whatever, they watch whatever, and now it's 1619 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 1: much more cutthroat. And I've heard a lot of like 1620 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: very big channels in this space tell me that this 1621 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: year was a drop off in revenue that they never 1622 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: really experienced before. And I don't think I can say that. 1623 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 1: I definitely think that I probably made as much in 1624 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three as I made in twenty twenty two, 1625 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: which is kind of intuitive to some people because they're like, oh, 1626 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: you got less views. But I had thirty three people 1627 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 1: on staff at one point last. 1628 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 2: Year, and now they don't want the back end of 1629 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 2: the business. 1630 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: We almost cut our staff in half. 1631 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 2: And I mean that might sound come of you guys 1632 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 2: had thirty three at one point. Yeah. 1633 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: Wow, well including like lot of hosts and stuff. I 1634 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: actually I'm only saying that because we were just doing 1635 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: Christmas bonuses and I was like, oh, like we have 1636 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: way less heads that we need to take into account. 1637 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 1: But I mean you got to think about the business 1638 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: that way at a certain point, like am I paying 1639 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: people that aren't producing a return for me? 1640 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 2: Are you doing a Christmas party this year? Because last 1641 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 2: year's just kind of lives in infamy, wasn't I've seen 1642 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 2: like I saw a video where it was like everybody 1643 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 2: who's there and then they're gone? Yeah it was it 1644 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 2: was whoever edited edited did a great job, because I 1645 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 2: don't think I actually saw it. 1646 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: I just saw like the first two seconds in the 1647 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: reddit and I was like, I'm not watching this. 1648 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 2: I kept scrolling. But you guys are gonna do a 1649 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 2: no Jumper holiday party this year. It was a little something, Yeah, 1650 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 2: a little little shindy. Your birthday looked fun. I was 1651 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 2: on the list and then I wasn't on the list. Really, yeah, 1652 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 2: you guys invited me, you hit me, and I told 1653 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,919 Speaker 2: you I was coming. I got a text the day 1654 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 2: of saying you're no longer on the list. 1655 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: I swear to god, you could have definitely came. I 1656 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: mean the I did hear like a couple other people 1657 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: say that too. 1658 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 2: I got a text it was like, thank you, but 1659 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 2: you're no longer on the list. Really, after I got 1660 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 2: a TEXTA said you're confirmed on the list, so you 1661 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 2: would have came otherwise. Yeah, but I'm like, I've had 1662 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 2: me up, dude. There was a lot of people in 1663 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 2: that way. Listen, we're not supposed to be I certainly 1664 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 2: was not tripping, wow, chilled with my kids, but I'm 1665 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 2: also not the person that's going to bother you. 1666 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: A few other people told me that that happened where 1667 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 1: like that because that r is because I could have 1668 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: bothered you were Josh. 1669 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 2: But I was like, you know what, I'm not going 1670 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 2: to fucking show up and be the guy standing outside 1671 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 2: trying to fucking get in. 1672 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: I should have just texted me and I would have 1673 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: fixed it for you right away, because that happened with 1674 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 1: a couple other people, but I didn't know iked. 1675 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 2: Like a fucking good shin dig though. 1676 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: That was probably the best party we ever did. But 1677 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about spending a lot of money 1678 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 1: on shit. I mean we spending like one hundred racks 1679 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: on that party. 1680 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean we you guys had sponsors though. 1681 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: No, we didn't really get sponsors, just just do it. 1682 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Like we didn't even bother trying to get alcohol sponsor 1683 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: because that right there, like the alcohol would have been 1684 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 1: like minus ten or fifteen grand worth of product on 1685 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 1: you know if we had had a sponsor, but I 1686 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 1: don't know. And then like the reality show that costs 1687 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 1: almost one hundred thousand dollars to put together, the rental, 1688 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 1: paying the talent and the crew insane, and it's like, 1689 01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 1: are you going to be able to make a hundred 1690 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 1: thousand doll was a four YouTube videos? I mean they 1691 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 1: would have to get like two million views each and 1692 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 1: the last episode got age restricted, so it like really 1693 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 1: didn't earn as much. 1694 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 2: So that suck. 1695 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 1: But we chose to do that anyway, just because I 1696 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,000 Speaker 1: think it's good to have like a template of look 1697 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: at what we can put together, look at the scale 1698 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: of the productions that. 1699 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 2: We can because maybe now you can sell you could 1700 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 2: be a production company. 1701 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,559 Speaker 1: That was kind of our was like for the MTV, 1702 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: let's make the fucking kryptmag dating show. 1703 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 2: And then he got locked up, Like, damn, the Kryptmac 1704 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 2: dating Show would have been heat. 1705 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: A lot of even the comments were suggesting that idea, 1706 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: even though we'd already been talking about it. 1707 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 2: It was just such an obvious layup. I think, damn, yeah, 1708 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 2: are you actively looking for new hosts or is that 1709 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 2: something where you kind of it's. 1710 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Weird, because yes, but a lot of times the economics 1711 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 1: of it are a little hard to wrap your head around. 1712 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 2: I think people think that like what we do just 1713 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 2: prints a shit ton of money, like no, and it's like, well, 1714 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 2: it's really not the case. 1715 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 1: And I know plenty of people that have started basically 1716 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: like clones of my business and seem to have like 1717 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 1: a reality check at some point and be like, oh, 1718 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 1: so we're not gonna make any money and this is 1719 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna be really really fucking difficult. But yeah, like I 1720 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: what the fuck we're saying? 1721 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay. 1722 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 1: So, like the math in my head is like it 1723 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 1: would be great to put together another at the end 1724 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 1: of the day, but I mean, what are you gonna like, 1725 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 1: Especially a lot of the people that I would like 1726 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 1: to put together in one of these types of podcasts, 1727 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: I would have to. 1728 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 2: Like move them to La Okay, okay, so. 1729 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Right there, Let's say that you got to pay somebody 1730 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 1: if they're going to be doing multiple podcasts per week 1731 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. What do you got paying like fucking eight 1732 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: ten grand a month that type. 1733 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 2: Of shit move somebody to town, yeah, because most people 1734 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 2: aren't gonna leave their hometown unless it's a really it's 1735 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:40,719 Speaker 2: to survive in a place. 1736 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,920 Speaker 1: Like exactly, if I say I'll give you five grand 1737 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 1: a month to move out here, I mean that's gonna 1738 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 1: pay for their rent and some food or whatever like. 1739 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: And if they're like a host, like an on camera 1740 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: talent who probably has other opportunities or could just do 1741 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 1: YouTube on their own, then that doesn't sound that appealing. 1742 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 1: So you gotta let's say you have to pay everybody 1743 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 1: ten grand. Let's say I gotta pay ten grand a 1744 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 1: month to three different people. Well, now you got to 1745 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: figure out you're gonna make thirty thousand dollars a month. 1746 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: It's not easy off podcast. You're gonna have to really 1747 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 1: kill it with the sponsors, and you're gonna have to 1748 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 1: have them like be really in the zone. The podcast 1749 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 1: is really gonna have to have like a hardcore fandom. 1750 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 1: I think I could probably do it, and hopefully we 1751 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,800 Speaker 1: do end up taking that sort of step this year, 1752 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: but it also might rely kind of on, like, oh, 1753 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 1: we might have to like really push the Patreon ankle, 1754 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,879 Speaker 1: you know that type of thing, like maybe if we can, 1755 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: because if you make a piece of content that people 1756 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 1: like are really signing up for the Patreon to see 1757 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 1: bonus content or whatever, now it starts to make sense 1758 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: outside of the sponsors and the ads. 1759 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 2: But for you guys do so much content because there's 1760 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 2: no Jumper news every day. Yeah, money through Friday, so 1761 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 2: it's like a Monday through Friday thing with usually three hosts, right, 1762 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 2: usually there's three more. But yeah, I mean so yeah, 1763 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 2: I mean that's your I mean yeah. 1764 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 1: That's already like its own thing. But that's good because 1765 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 1: it gives us a way to test out talent, try 1766 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 1: people out without having to throw people. 1767 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 2: Can you guys repurpose that for a news on Snapchat? Yeah, okay, 1768 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 2: that makes sense. So it makes a little bit more 1769 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 2: money that way. Yeah, the Snapchat thing's lit. So thank 1770 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 2: you for that, brother, thank you. No doubt. Snapchat's great. 1771 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 2: People don't know. And then I realize now that I 1772 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,600 Speaker 2: like know that Snapchat shows are a thing I'll be like, 1773 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, the most random people have snapchat shows. 1774 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: And a lot of the snapchat shows are like their 1775 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 1: old YouTube videos from twenty seventeen, re purchase, repurposed. Yeah, 1776 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 1: that's what people who make like evergreen content, like the 1777 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Professor the Basketball Dah Like he told me that his 1778 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: Facebook is his biggest revenue stream, but he makes content 1779 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 1: that you could see it six years after he filmed. 1780 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 2: That it still is. Yeah, he's just hooping. 1781 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 1: Even Logan paltol Me, he makes crazy amount of money 1782 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 1: on Facebook, and it's like he's posting his vogs doing 1783 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: shit that would never that he would never do now, 1784 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 1: and he's just putting it on Facebook and it still works. 1785 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 2: How's your relationship these days with ac Uh? We talk 1786 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 2: pretty good amount. Yeah, I feel like you guys have 1787 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,879 Speaker 2: an interesting on camera dynamic where you know, he's obviously 1788 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 2: cool Ad and those guys and right, but he's you know, 1789 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 2: he's obviously a trailblazer during during the the streaming era, 1790 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 2: if you will. 1791 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of a funny switch between us because he 1792 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 1: was kind of like getting involved when Ad and Trel 1793 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,880 Speaker 1: were all them were all there and stuff, and there 1794 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 1: was a couple of times where he says something like, oh, like, ad, 1795 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: you should be getting paid two hundred grand a year 1796 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 1: at No Jumper, and that's like obviously he wasn't. So 1797 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 1: he's kind of like and he's saying, like, I would 1798 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 1: pay you guys this amount. Now you like fast forward 1799 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 1: to like he's really pushing the academy thing and trying 1800 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,400 Speaker 1: to like build up his cast and everything. 1801 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 2: And I'm sure he's he's probably going through some of 1802 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 2: the growing pains you had to go. 1803 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's aware that it would be difficult for 1804 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: him to pay any of those hosts twenty thousand dollars 1805 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: a month or whatever. So I think he's he's realizing 1806 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,720 Speaker 1: the same thing that I kind of realized, which is 1807 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 1: that the whole business model of like I'm gonna pay 1808 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of people to just make content on behalf 1809 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 1: of my brand. I mean, it didn't work for Complex, 1810 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: like they weren't profitable with Joe Budden, and it didn't 1811 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 1: work for a lot of people. Man, it didn't work 1812 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 1: for a Revolt state of the culture and never went anywhere. 1813 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 1: And you're talking about like big Buddy, big names, and 1814 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: meanwhile with like No Jumper, it's like well, we don't 1815 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 1: have that as big of a budget. We can't afford 1816 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 1: to just lose money for this long ass period of time. 1817 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 1: Sponsors don't oftentimes want to touch this sort of edgy 1818 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 1: content with violence being discussed and sex being disgusting god 1819 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: knows what. 1820 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,759 Speaker 2: So hey shout out to our sponsor King Pom, who's 1821 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,679 Speaker 2: also a sponsor of No Jumper, King Palm Water. 1822 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: It's good water. Chug it, it's good water. That's my 1823 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: slogan I made up for them now. But like, yeah, 1824 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,560 Speaker 1: King Pom is dope. But I just don't have a 1825 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: lot of belief like I used to always say about 1826 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 1: No Jumper, like No Jumper needs to be a network. 1827 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna have all these hosts and they're gonna do 1828 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 1: content and YadA YadA, and like we achieved that for 1829 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 1: a while, but the finances were kind of wonky, and 1830 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 1: I didn't really have my business down the way that 1831 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,600 Speaker 1: I should have, because I should have had contracts that 1832 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 1: kind of prohibited a lot of the stuff that ended 1833 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 1: up happening. And by the time that stuff happened and 1834 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: they were talking about No Jumper drama on their streams 1835 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 1: every day, it was like already kind of too far gone, 1836 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 1: and I realized that I didn't really there wasn't really 1837 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: a way for me to reverse time and get back 1838 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 1: to what I thought that the situation should be. But 1839 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 1: when I look at all these other podcasts and platforms 1840 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 1: and stuff, I don't see really most of them having 1841 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,759 Speaker 1: much success with it either. I mean, you have somebody 1842 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: like Joe and I think he largely survives off Patreon. 1843 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, he's gone. I mean he's gone through 1844 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 2: it with trying to launch a network. I mean publicly, 1845 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 2: he had. 1846 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,760 Speaker 1: A couple of different shows on there that didn't work 1847 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: out and everything. So I don't have a ton of 1848 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,000 Speaker 1: faith in that. Like obviously we do have like Break 1849 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 1: and Sharp and they're still doing content on No Jumper 1850 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But it's definitely a tricky business 1851 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: to be. 1852 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 2: In and right, yeah, yeah. 1853 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I'm like really devoted to like I 1854 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,559 Speaker 1: have to find these hosts and I have to build 1855 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 1: that more podcast because the business side of it is 1856 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 1: just hard. 1857 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 2: What was for you, is it? Like obviously it has 1858 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 2: to make sense for you financially to try to recreate 1859 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,799 Speaker 2: the magic on mailros and open a store. 1860 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just miss having that sort of 1861 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 1: spontaneity of just having a spot and being able to 1862 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: do it. 1863 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 2: You just shot content there, right I just I think 1864 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 2: I just saw I just. 1865 01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Do podcasts there some of the time. Like last well, 1866 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 1: last week Friday, I went there and did two interviews 1867 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 1: throughout the day at the spot, and then Sunday I 1868 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 1: came back in hung out on the block, did two 1869 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 1: more interviews on the block. So I like just being 1870 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 1: able to be just like a certain energy to being 1871 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 1: on Melros And we're right next door to Deska Dub 1872 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: and it is different than it was before because there's 1873 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,680 Speaker 1: just like a little bit less hype around everything. But 1874 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean we get to inherit a lot of the 1875 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 1: hype that's kind of going on with Dub right there. 1876 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 1: So every time I'm out there on a Sunday and 1877 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,839 Speaker 1: there's like a million people just standing out on the street, 1878 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 1: feels very good to have like a real community around 1879 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 1: us and everything like that. So I felt like it 1880 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,720 Speaker 1: was important for us to lean into that. And I 1881 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 1: feel like we get enough content through being out there 1882 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 1: that it's it's just good. Like Remo would be, like 1883 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,680 Speaker 1: they're having different artists come in just to film tiktoks 1884 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 1: and take photos and get some merch and stuff like that, 1885 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 1: and that shit just kind of helps the brand. Like 1886 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 1: I always loved having the strong mellows. And it's kind 1887 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 1: of shame we're gone for three years, but. 1888 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:54,880 Speaker 2: I mean shit, I mean you think about that Jake 1889 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 2: holmoman you had. That was fucking crazy. You know, he 1890 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:58,559 Speaker 2: just walked in right. 1891 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 1: Like just anything spontaneou is really great for the content. 1892 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:06,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, well listen, go subscribe to plug talk this only 1893 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 2: plug talk dot com. How much is that scene? I'm 1894 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 2: not exactly sure. 1895 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 1: It's five dollars a month to sign up for plug 1896 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 1: talk and then that scene is available in the dms. 1897 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 2: Is that the business model of OnlyFans pretty much? I've 1898 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:21,599 Speaker 2: not actually legit never done the Well that's the president. 1899 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,919 Speaker 1: That's one thing is that almost every born girl has 1900 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,479 Speaker 1: like you have to pay for like any decent content 1901 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 1: on there. 1902 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,320 Speaker 2: So like is the main page just like a normal 1903 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 2: like feed, It just like a like a trailer. 1904 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 1: On ours, you get every episode we've ever done, just 1905 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,480 Speaker 1: for the basic monthly amount. But on most girls OnlyFans 1906 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,920 Speaker 1: you pay x amount of dollars and you get like 1907 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 1: some photos on the feed and then you got to 1908 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,200 Speaker 1: pay five bucks, ten bucks, whatever it is for additional content. 1909 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,280 Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, damn. I really thought he was 1910 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 2: a simp and he was just lying Because I didn't 1911 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 2: watch the interview. I just saw the headline, so I 1912 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,240 Speaker 2: just assume, Oh, he's trying to get out of it. 1913 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 2: He's probably getting clowned by his homies. 1914 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,960 Speaker 1: That's funny that a lot of people had that reaction. 1915 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 2: But he's yeah, But knowing him, I don't know, no, 1916 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean now that I kind of know 1917 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 2: all that, I feel bad for him though, because him now, 1918 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna interview him. Yeah. 1919 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 1: Him coming on No Jumper ruined every other opportunity that 1920 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 1: he had to go on all these other podcasts. Like 1921 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 1: he texted me this morning telling me that he spent 1922 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars flying in Miami and then Freshman and 1923 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 1: they canceled on him and they were gonna pay. 1924 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,720 Speaker 2: I just got paid for my first interview. Have you 1925 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:31,600 Speaker 2: gotten paid to do an interview? I vlada page. 1926 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: Well, but like we do like a swap too. I 1927 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 1: don't even ask him anymore. But there was a couple 1928 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:36,880 Speaker 1: of times that he gave. 1929 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,880 Speaker 2: Me to be just man. 1930 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,679 Speaker 1: But he pays like a decent amount. He he takes 1931 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: credit for that that he started the practice of paying guests. 1932 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not, but I practice ever come into fourition here. 1933 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's nice to get everything just based 1934 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 1: on your relationships, but at the end of the day, 1935 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 1: it's like, if you can spend five grand and make 1936 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:54,720 Speaker 1: ten I. 1937 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,800 Speaker 2: Really honestly would have paid krit Mak just to just 1938 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,600 Speaker 2: to hang out with him. Yeah, because my bro, my 1939 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 2: best friend. Shout out to Joe Pete. 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