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Speaker 3: into the show.
Speaker 5: And you think Lamar roach right, you think he'll fight
Speaker 5: me if I asked him like I'm just before before
Speaker 5: he comes on.
Speaker 2: I just want to know for you mean, will he
Speaker 2: beat you? Yes? Be who? Hey?
Speaker 1: You don't have no belief in in your co host.
Speaker 3: The homie, the homie Max Max Maxwell got you right?
Speaker 5: No, he got a knock down. There's a difference, that's
Speaker 5: what that's.
Speaker 3: He ain't he touching Lamar gon put them punches. You see, Lamar,
Speaker 3: how you putting them punches together?
Speaker 2: On take? You're not used to seeing punches?
Speaker 1: Yes, I am you.
Speaker 5: Sam. You're saying I've been fighting the past six years.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna ask him.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no no. Sparring is different than fighting.
Speaker 3: It's just like somebody else. It's like with somebody a
Speaker 3: receiver and they go out there and they're not used
Speaker 3: that ball gets up on him quick and hit them
Speaker 3: all them side the head. That ain't gonna happen to
Speaker 3: men hit you all the side your head.
Speaker 2: But you know what, who do you come to the show?
Speaker 2: We'll ask him.
Speaker 3: Lebron James became the first player to score fifty thousand
Speaker 3: career points when you combine regular season and postseason. He
Speaker 3: has forty one thousand, eight hundred and seventy one points
Speaker 3: in the regular season. He has eighty one hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty two points in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 3: He also became the oldest player to ever be named
Speaker 3: conference player of the month. He was named Western Conference
Speaker 3: Player of the Month. He has he averaged twenty nine
Speaker 3: point three points a game, ten point five rebounds a
Speaker 3: game and seven assists, and the Lakers went twelve to two.
Speaker 3: In that span, Lebron James fifty thousand career points, the
Speaker 3: most Conference players of the month, most Conference players of
Speaker 3: the week. That's what Lebron James done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what he's done. And he's also done a
Speaker 5: great thing for me. I know you've been a huge fan.
Speaker 5: You've you've been highly respectful of Yeah, complimentary of what
Speaker 5: he's done about Yeah, complimentary of what he's done throughout
Speaker 5: his twenty two year career. And listen, I asked a request.
Speaker 5: I sent a Twitter and this is this is the
Speaker 5: power of Twitter. This is how great Twitter is. I said, listen, Lebron,
Speaker 5: can I get that fifty thousand point ball when you
Speaker 5: hit when you hit that milestone. He didn't respond to me,
Speaker 5: but he got in touch with Doug. He got in
Speaker 5: touch with Doug, Doug sending the address and Lebron sent me.
Speaker 1: The fifth the ball. Did he send me the ball?
Speaker 2: Right? But hold on? Not only.
Speaker 5: Huh, yeah, he signed it. Let me finish, Let me finish.
Speaker 5: Not only did he send me the ball? Listen, chat, listen,
Speaker 5: I'm trying not to get more ship. I'm trying not
Speaker 5: to get emotional, right because something like this. He sent
Speaker 5: a note with it, and this is what really touched me.
Speaker 5: This is what it really touched me. Chat Listen to
Speaker 5: me real quick. This this means a lot to me.
Speaker 5: On the note along with the ball, he said, o Jo,
Speaker 5: I'm passing my fifty K fifty K point ball to you.
Speaker 5: You've been a legend in your own right, and your energy,
Speaker 5: passion and love for the game has always inspired me.
Speaker 5: This ball represents everything I worked for, and I want
Speaker 5: you to have it as a token of respect for
Speaker 5: your grind and the way you've embrace everything you do
Speaker 5: because nothing is given, everything is earned.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate you, bro, Keep being great.
Speaker 6: Love Lebron, and he signed it for me. You see
Speaker 6: can you see you? He said, you put Kenny days.
Speaker 3: It seems like when he spelled James he almost forgot
Speaker 3: how to spell his last name.
Speaker 7: Or that that's because he left handed so right, a
Speaker 7: little different. But I just try to figure out how
Speaker 7: you get all these mouths done. You got the forty
Speaker 7: K ball, got fifty K.
Speaker 1: I got both, y'all. I got Hey, Lebron, I know
Speaker 1: you don't see this Blake.
Speaker 5: Listen, I appreciate you, and I promise I won't get emotional,
Speaker 5: but it's hard to hold back tiers man, especially for
Speaker 5: for you to reach your milestone like this and want
Speaker 5: to give me the ball.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: That means a lot to me, to my.
Speaker 5: Family, and if at any point in life, I doubt
Speaker 5: it's gonna happen, if I'm ever on hard times, this
Speaker 5: will definitely come in handy.
Speaker 2: I love you. If you have a hard time, you go,
Speaker 2: you go give it up.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna have no choice.
Speaker 5: Sure, I ain't gonna choice, like like like a chick
Speaker 5: on like a chick on prom night that senior year.
Speaker 5: Get it right up, you get it up, giving it up?
Speaker 5: Hey but lebron, Hey, real talk boy. I love you,
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, and this is going. This is going
Speaker 5: in the case fifty K baby, King James.
Speaker 3: I don't know if people really understand what it's like
Speaker 3: to be great for that length of time. Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I mean basically since he set foot in the NBA,
Speaker 3: since he was eighteen years old. Yes he's forty now
Speaker 3: he's been great. Yeah, he's been great. I mean you
Speaker 3: can have all the criticism you can want. I mean,
Speaker 3: you can nitpick. You want to say if there's a
Speaker 3: game he should have shot instead of passed, or if
Speaker 3: you want to say where he should have did this
Speaker 3: instead of that, Right, but there's no denying his greatness
Speaker 3: for such an extended period of time. You can book in,
Speaker 3: you can say, oh, he was great here, he was
Speaker 3: great there, But you color all in between eighteen and forty,
Speaker 3: and it's colored with greatness.
Speaker 2: Right, he's been.
Speaker 3: It's remarkable and I'm not sure we'll ever see it again.
Speaker 3: Somebody play at this level, I mean, yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 3: be player that. I mean, you can look at Luca.
Speaker 3: Luca can average what Lebron average can get you rebounds
Speaker 3: and assist. But do we believe Luca's gonna be doing
Speaker 3: this and you're fifteen year twenty?
Speaker 2: Probably not?
Speaker 3: Are we sure somebody else is gonna be able to
Speaker 3: come along, oh Joe and play this long? They might
Speaker 3: have a stretch, a eight year, a ten year, or
Speaker 3: even a fifteen year stretch. Right, but when you extrapolate
Speaker 3: what he's been able to do for such a long
Speaker 3: period of time, at the level in which he's been
Speaker 3: able to do it, man, it's a beautiful thing to watch.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I got an opportunity to watch Jordan
Speaker 3: his entire career. I watched Kobe his entire career. But
Speaker 3: this is this is remarkable. This is remarkable what Lebron
Speaker 3: has been able to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why I'm getting emotional because it means
Speaker 5: so much to me, especially for a miles to achieve
Speaker 5: a milestone like this and to be willing to give
Speaker 5: that up, you know, so I could have it. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't really never get you know, I really get
Speaker 5: gifts people really give me. I'm normally no, I'm normally
Speaker 5: to give us. So to get something like this, Man, Lebron,
Speaker 5: I know you probably watching. I appreciate you, bro were
Speaker 5: You're a real one.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 1: I don't care what they say about you.
Speaker 2: It just goes to show you.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if Lebron, because Luca is really the
Speaker 3: only guy that Lebron is truly trusted to have the
Speaker 3: ball exclusively in his hands. Yes, sir, Now we go
Speaker 3: back and says, you know what, if Lebron had somebody
Speaker 3: he trusted and he didn't have to have the rock
Speaker 3: in his hand, and he can do what he's doing now,
Speaker 3: spot up, he can get to the high. He can
Speaker 3: get to the high point the high pick and roll,
Speaker 3: or he can do whatever.
Speaker 2: He can flash, he can cut. You see what he's
Speaker 2: doing at forty.
Speaker 3: So imagine Lebron at twenty five and thirty and he
Speaker 3: has a Luca that he doesn't have to worry about
Speaker 3: sitting him up, He doesn't have to worry about.
Speaker 2: Running the offense.
Speaker 3: Luca can do everything that Lebron does, and Lebron gets
Speaker 3: to focus on just this. Yes, what do you think
Speaker 3: his numbers would have been? So now he doesn't have
Speaker 3: to worry about facilitating. Now his assist total might be
Speaker 3: a little lower because he's not going to have the
Speaker 3: ball in his hand.
Speaker 2: Primarily that's gonna go to Luca.
Speaker 3: Right, but you see scoring and the and the percentage
Speaker 3: in which he's shooting. Go back and look at since
Speaker 3: Lucas arrived. Look at his three point field goal percentage,
Speaker 3: Look at his field goal percentage, look at his point total.
Speaker 3: Everything is increased because you know what a lot has
Speaker 3: been taken off. If it's plate o Joe, he doesn't
Speaker 3: have to worry about facilitating for everybody, He doesn't have
Speaker 3: to worry about all that other stuff. He can just
Speaker 3: say Lukah you have that. Let me say, let me
Speaker 3: get like three runouts of game. Let me give a
Speaker 3: couple of dives to the baskets. I hit a couple
Speaker 3: of threes. Hell that damn near twenty right there. But
Speaker 3: it's it's been unbelievable to watch. And like I said,
Speaker 3: I'm old enough to remember a lot of the great players.
Speaker 3: I saw magic, never saw I saw magic in person one.
Speaker 3: But most of the times I mean to see bird
Speaker 3: and magic and a cheam and all these great players
Speaker 3: and now the step curves, the kd's and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: To see these guys play Lebron Kobe shot. I don't
Speaker 3: think we see somebody else get fifty thousand, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 3: I really don't.
Speaker 2: Oh your Here is what we're saying.
Speaker 3: We're under the assumption, huh, we're under the assumption that
Speaker 3: he stops playing. Who's to say this thing is not
Speaker 3: gonna be fifty two fifty three thousand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he can keep going, especially when Luke ad to him.
Speaker 5: Now you know, Luca could take it, take a play
Speaker 5: another two three oh yeah, easily. He could easily play
Speaker 5: another two to three years. The question is, he says,
Speaker 5: keeping his mind sharp because he's been sold to that routine,
Speaker 5: and I don't believe Savannah is putting the pressure on,
Speaker 5: like hey baby, you need to come home.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: He's like no, because you're like, hey, bro, I know
Speaker 3: what you like when you when you home, he gonna
Speaker 3: be moody as hell. So I can see Lebron legitimately,
Speaker 3: Oh Joe. I can see him playing another two to
Speaker 3: three years, and I wouldn't be surprised if that were
Speaker 3: to happen. But at the level that he's playing at,
Speaker 3: he played at extremely high level. It's great to see,
Speaker 3: Oh Joe. Jennie Buss says, Anthony Davis wasn't happy. We
Speaker 3: have we we have lost the last three years in
Speaker 3: a road to the Denver Nuggets in the playoffs, and
Speaker 3: we really didn't have anything that was going to look
Speaker 3: different going into the playoffs. Again, Anthony Davis was complaining
Speaker 3: about where he's being played and he wasn't happy. So
Speaker 3: I think this was a positive for both teams. They
Speaker 3: got what they were looking for and we got what
Speaker 3: we were looking for.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe. Do you believe that was fair for Jeanie
Speaker 2: to say, I mean no, I.
Speaker 1: Mean well kind of kind of to give him a reason.
Speaker 3: Remember, you like for people to be honest, You like
Speaker 3: for people to say that.
Speaker 5: I like for him to be honest, and that that
Speaker 5: was very transparent. That is why, that's why the deal
Speaker 5: was made. Listen, eight eighty wasn't happy. Obviously, he didn't
Speaker 5: show any type of emotion. He didn't he didn't show
Speaker 5: that any signs of him being unhappy, especially on the
Speaker 5: courting what I didn't did what he was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: But if you if you're not happy and you.
Speaker 5: Keep thinking behind closed doors internally, this is what you get.
Speaker 1: They ain't give you your wish. Now you got your wish.
Speaker 5: Just so happened that Luca became available and it worked
Speaker 5: in the Lakers favor.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're not happy.
Speaker 5: Look, we're gonna do your We're gonna we're gonna do
Speaker 5: your solid young boy, we're gonna see you over the
Speaker 5: Dallas and Luke we're gonna come over here and both
Speaker 5: parties happy. I'm sure I'm sure he's happy now. Well,
Speaker 5: I mean outside of being injured. Outside of being injured.
Speaker 3: Me and I'm try to be like eighty, wasn't asking
Speaker 3: you to go get enjoyl and be the cold yo
Speaker 3: kicch Yes, just giving him an able bodied person so
Speaker 3: he could slide to the four a little bit. And
Speaker 3: then the last five minutes of the game, y'all play
Speaker 3: the five. Okay, you don't like being best years he
Speaker 3: had it with Bugi. Yeah, Boogie was at the five,
Speaker 3: AD was at the four. If you're about to look
Speaker 3: at JaVale McGee at the five, Dwight Howard at the five,
Speaker 3: a d at the four. But when it came down
Speaker 3: the crunch time, Ad slid to the five A lot
Speaker 3: of times. Lebron was the four man, but he played
Speaker 3: the point that was okay, but here's the kicker, o Joe.
Speaker 3: In order for this deal to get consummated, a D
Speaker 3: had to waive there's no trade clause. Yeah, yeah, everything,
Speaker 3: she's everything Jeannie Buss said. Could be true, yes, sir,
Speaker 3: but considering the man could have held this thing up
Speaker 3: and Nico probably takes this deal to somebody else, just
Speaker 3: keep that behind.
Speaker 5: Closed doors, okay, okay, okay, well, well and listen at
Speaker 5: this point, this is good. Maybe maybe we get more
Speaker 5: owners being transparent and being honest and coming out and saying, well,
Speaker 5: this individual wasn't happy, So we granted them exactly what
Speaker 5: they wanted, and ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3: It probably it's hard for me now, it's hard for
Speaker 3: me to see a scenario, O Joe where this wasn't
Speaker 3: conveyed to them at some point in time in the process.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come. When he was at the Pelicans, yes
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay for sure, because if you go back, if you
Speaker 3: go back to look at it, they had the JaVale
Speaker 3: McGee and Dwight Howard. AD's first year there, they won
Speaker 3: the championship, and you blow that up? Why would you not?
Speaker 3: And I get it. I mean, like I said, I
Speaker 3: don't think a d was asking for a I need
Speaker 3: a top five center. He just means somebody that could
Speaker 3: eat up the minutes so he doesn't wear himself down
Speaker 3: trying to bang with yo, trying to bang with him,
Speaker 3: be trying to bang with those big bodies. Let those
Speaker 3: guys now the last five minutes I got you. Don't
Speaker 3: even worry about it. I got you the last five.
Speaker 2: Let me add it.
Speaker 3: I don't really think I don't really think that's a
Speaker 3: bad thing to say. Yeah, he said it on several occasions.
Speaker 3: He's last interview. I don't know if it was Dave
Speaker 3: Mcmanhamon or Sham's, but he said, you know, hey, I
Speaker 3: would like to have a five.
Speaker 2: I think that's all we missing five.
Speaker 3: Let me slide to four the last five minutes of
Speaker 3: the game at Yeah, I just think the thing is
Speaker 3: for me me personally, Like I said, Hey, everybody's entirely
Speaker 3: toward their opinion. I think, but Ad being as class
Speaker 3: as he was, because he could have held it up
Speaker 3: and said, now I ain't waiting for my trade clause
Speaker 3: I came to La. I'm gonna stay in La and
Speaker 3: then now Luca's maybe somewhere, so the trade doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Now you get a bona fide superstar for the next
Speaker 3: ten years in Luca. So, like I said, I just
Speaker 3: some situations. Oho, it is okay. It is okay for
Speaker 3: you to just sit on the truth. It doesn't hurt
Speaker 3: anybody if she keeps this. Ohoe is anybody harmed if
Speaker 3: she keeps this? Because the way she says that, it
Speaker 3: makes it seem like, well, we were kind of looking
Speaker 3: to trade Ad because he was starting to complain and
Speaker 3: came started to become an issue.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, I just think of a
Speaker 2: situation like that.
Speaker 3: Just sit on that information, you know it, and that's
Speaker 3: a that's how you feel. Got no problem with that.
Speaker 3: But it's okay if everything is not is not brought up,
Speaker 3: everything is not mentioned because a D's played, well, yeah he's.
Speaker 2: Been he nicked a couple of times.
Speaker 3: I mean, but and uh, it ain't no harm and
Speaker 3: losing to you talking about one of the great players,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna it's gonna all see what it's all
Speaker 3: said done. We'll see what NICOLEA Yoak is drank. But
Speaker 3: y'all make it seem who the hell y'all think. I mean,
Speaker 3: the Lakers puts put somebody out every year. The Celtics
Speaker 3: were putting people out every year. George was putting people
Speaker 3: every year. When it's all said and done, Yoak, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be gonna be up there. He has three m
Speaker 3: vps in a four years. Fan he's probably gonna finish
Speaker 3: second this year. Who have to say he doesn't win
Speaker 3: another one or another two or wins another championship. So
Speaker 3: losing to nicolea Jokic bad, right, That's like Toronto said, man,
Speaker 3: every year, man, we lost to Lebron.
Speaker 2: Really do what y'all feel bad about? Lose to Lebron
Speaker 2: every year, right.
Speaker 3: A lot of people lost to Lebron or losing the staff,
Speaker 3: or losing to one of these other great players over
Speaker 3: a stending period of time. There is nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3: Joining us now fought to a majority draw Saturday night.
Speaker 3: It doesn't look like he's too pleased with that. And
Speaker 3: there are a lot of people on social media that
Speaker 3: actually thought he won that fight. Joining us Lamart Roach,
Speaker 3: Junior Lamont, How you doing, bro?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 1: I'm good man. Thanks for having me. I feel real good.
Speaker 3: No, thanks for having thanks for joining us. Take us
Speaker 3: through Saturday and you go into that fight. You move
Speaker 3: up five files, you're one to thirty five, and you
Speaker 3: move up and you feeling I mean, everybody's that man.
Speaker 3: Ain't No, he got no chance. Tank told you a
Speaker 3: couple of days earlier. He goes, hey, you're not going
Speaker 3: the distance, y'all shake very little, two fifty.
Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be. You going to that fight.
Speaker 3: You know, tanks the slow starter builds up as the
Speaker 3: fight progresses. Know he's trying to land, hook to the body,
Speaker 3: come up top with it. What was your process, What
Speaker 3: were going into that fight, how did you want to fight?
Speaker 3: And did the fight turn out the way you thought
Speaker 3: it would?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: Honestly, yeah, the fight, the fight when exactly how we
Speaker 5: planned it to go.
Speaker 1: Honestly, you know, Uh, we're familiar with him. We've been
Speaker 1: familiar with him.
Speaker 5: Uh. We just knew it was a matter of time
Speaker 5: for everything to fall into play. And back to the
Speaker 5: whole everybody not giving me a shot saying I'm gonna
Speaker 5: get knocked out and all this and all that. I
Speaker 5: know what I'm cabble with and I know what I
Speaker 5: could do. Like they just in the nut show they have,
Speaker 5: they had me totally messed up, and especially when he
Speaker 5: bet me saying he's gonna stop me, what do it do?
Speaker 1: I told him himself, I said, you tripping. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know what got into your head these last
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, few day, whatever the case on you tripping.
Speaker 1: You know you're not gonna do that, dude. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I told him that. I know you know
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do that. Cut it out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, listen, when you talk about you're very familiar
Speaker 5: with him, and I understand you and your team.
Speaker 1: You went into the fight with a game plan. Is
Speaker 1: it familiarity the.
Speaker 5: Fact that you guys probably trained together in the past,
Speaker 5: or you've been in camp together in the past, you
Speaker 5: spared together.
Speaker 1: Is that why you were so familiar And whatever.
Speaker 5: Game plan your team did have and we're able to execute,
Speaker 5: is that why it went so well?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's one of the many reasons why
Speaker 1: I went so well. Even though we were kids. You know,
Speaker 1: some of them traits, characteristics and just ways of a
Speaker 1: man who like grew with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, uh, you know some of the some of the
Speaker 5: like some of the dirty tactics. I knew that he'd
Speaker 5: you know, revert to that when that pressure built up,
Speaker 5: when somebody that was there that wasn't scared of, when
Speaker 5: somebody was there that was there to return firing. And
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, he ain't been in the
Speaker 5: ring in his professional career. He hasn't been in the ring,
Speaker 5: or something like that or something like accountable what I
Speaker 5: got back, So what I thought, obviously watching the fight,
Speaker 5: and when I look at all his tape fights, most
Speaker 5: of us happened.
Speaker 1: Obviously. He starts slow, and then round five six he
Speaker 1: started to pick it up.
Speaker 5: A little bit, and by the time as he's picking
Speaker 5: it up normally his opponent is deteriorating, thinkingdition ain't we're
Speaker 5: supposed to be. But I'm looking at you. They get
Speaker 5: to a round six and seven and he coming forward
Speaker 5: and you ain't even you not even moving.
Speaker 1: So at that point, y'all men range and you sitting
Speaker 1: in the pocket.
Speaker 5: And most of the time when he hit somebody, they retreat,
Speaker 5: but you get you took one to give one.
Speaker 1: I'm like what he boy?
Speaker 8: Boy?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, so did the power not affect you
Speaker 5: in any way where you didn't really care? We just
Speaker 5: sat in the pocket with him in exchange because most
Speaker 5: of the time, I mean, you.
Speaker 1: Got to be cautious.
Speaker 5: You gotta be cautious because when throwing punches, you know
Speaker 5: you got a chance to get hit, you know, when
Speaker 5: you're letting go.
Speaker 1: Did you not care at all? Or did you feel
Speaker 1: his power early? And really one world.
Speaker 5: About it, So it wasn't that I wasn't I wasn't caring. Uh,
Speaker 5: I was cautious, Like you said, I was cautious. But
Speaker 5: but the defense, the defense is there, and the confidence
Speaker 5: was was through the roof h and I got a change,
Speaker 5: you keep a spade to spade, Like you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like I see why he knocked people out.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say the power is overrated. But I've
Speaker 5: been in there with guys who could punch. I mean,
Speaker 5: like with guys who can punch. So it's like it's
Speaker 5: it's nothing. It was nothing new to me. I've been
Speaker 5: in there with middleweight champions. I've been in there with
Speaker 5: junior middleweight champions, I mean like as they were champion
Speaker 5: in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I was confident and
Speaker 5: what I could do defensively, and if I get hit, I.
Speaker 1: Know I know I was gonna give it right back.
Speaker 5: Right, So listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know,
Speaker 5: I you know, I get excited about but listen, hey,
Speaker 5: young boy. And in the ninth round, you know, Jamonte
Speaker 5: took a knee. Obviously there's some controversy behind that. It
Speaker 5: wasn't rule to knockdown by the referee. I've never seen
Speaker 5: that ever. And then my years of watching a you know,
Speaker 5: watching boxing, andy and joying the sport of combat sports
Speaker 5: in general, did that moment impact your strategy for the
Speaker 5: remainder of the fight. I'm gonna say no, and let
Speaker 5: me tell you why. Yeah, the simple fact that he
Speaker 5: took the knee is is it was really a boost
Speaker 5: because it's like, all right, it's okay, all right, what
Speaker 5: we're doing is working. We know that he looking for
Speaker 5: some It should have been a knock down one.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm yelling at the referee, like, keep counting,
Speaker 1: like you tripping, keep counting.
Speaker 5: That's a knocking because if y'all didn't notice he started
Speaker 5: the count, he started the count.
Speaker 2: He did cut it, and then he stopped.
Speaker 5: Yes, he started, okay, So so when we resumed the action,
Speaker 5: I'm like, what you doing?
Speaker 1: Keep counting? Like you can't do that?
Speaker 5: Right, So and then it wasn't even registering or processing
Speaker 5: through my mind. The other rules to the simple fact
Speaker 5: that he could have got disqualified for having his.
Speaker 1: Corner come up to the ring and assystem doing around, or.
Speaker 5: You can't do that, or he can't turn his back
Speaker 5: on the like doing the that's cause for it.
Speaker 1: That's that's the wave it all. He took a knee
Speaker 1: and then turned around and went to the corner breadthord
Speaker 1: usually turning turn stop the fight. Oh I ain't, I ain't.
Speaker 1: I ain't know that.
Speaker 3: I'm watching you a lot of times when when people
Speaker 3: hit Tank, like was saying they retreat, But it seemed
Speaker 3: like you had a strategy like if he hit me,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit his ass back just just as many
Speaker 3: times as he hit me. And I don't think he
Speaker 3: expected you to return to kind of five that you returned.
Speaker 2: Because you wabbled him a couple of times.
Speaker 3: And I'm not so sure that I've seen Tank wobble,
Speaker 3: like when you called him a couple of times and
Speaker 3: you were getting through the guard. I mean, hey, normally
Speaker 3: a south Fall fighter that lead right is a home
Speaker 3: run right down and right down Broad Street. And you
Speaker 3: kept touching him with.
Speaker 1: It, for sure. Uh, it was one of the it
Speaker 1: was one of the many things that we trained for. Uh.
Speaker 1: Obviously he happy.
Speaker 5: Go lucky with his left and and been working for
Speaker 5: his whole career. He's been knocking these dudes out, so
Speaker 5: you know, we've been training. We were just sitting on
Speaker 5: the left being able to working on counter and working
Speaker 5: on you know, being able to block and come back.
Speaker 5: And we had some pretty fast guys and then we
Speaker 5: had some pretty strong guys that I had to, you know, uh,
Speaker 5: switch rounds with every like you know, every sponse, just
Speaker 5: so you know we was ready. We was prepared. And
Speaker 5: like you said, them dudes wasn't really really cracking him back,
Speaker 5: and I was really throwing that fire at him, and
Speaker 5: the accuracy was really probably pissed them off to Yeah,
Speaker 5: and the fact that I was busy, it's like this
Speaker 5: ain't stopping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping
Speaker 3: the pace up. Like Ochre said, he's a guy that
Speaker 3: likes to start slow so he have some energy reserved.
Speaker 2: So when he.
Speaker 3: Comes out from five through twelve, he's like, I got
Speaker 3: a lot left. I know, I ain't really spent no gas. Hey,
Speaker 3: I've just been coos and now I've been on electric goal.
Speaker 3: Now I got this fire, got this gas in the tank.
Speaker 3: I'm in the unleashed. But it meant you met fire
Speaker 3: with fire. And I've heard Floyd say that like when
Speaker 3: he went into a fight, he never watched tape on
Speaker 3: the guy that he was fighting. He left that up
Speaker 3: to his corner to watch the fight and then tell
Speaker 3: him instructions. He would take all that information and then
Speaker 3: once he got into the ring.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Do you watch fight?
Speaker 3: Do you when you going against a fighter, do you
Speaker 3: watch them or you leave that up to your corner
Speaker 3: to watch and then give you an instruction of what
Speaker 3: you should do.
Speaker 5: I don't watch them a lot. I'm just so, I
Speaker 5: just so happened to be a boxing fan. That the
Speaker 5: fact that I do watch him fight, You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like I really like boxing, he is, uh,
Speaker 5: he's just somebody to watch the inspected creed knockout all
Speaker 5: this skilled guy, like one of the one and better
Speaker 5: powerful pound fighters. I like watching good fights, so I
Speaker 5: do know some of his tendencies. But to study him,
Speaker 5: uh not really. I left it up to my dad.
Speaker 5: But one time, one day, like one day in camp,
Speaker 5: we did sit down and watch a few of his
Speaker 5: fights back to back. Mm hmm, hey, listen, Tank Tank.
Speaker 5: His publicly express interests obviously in a rematch. I'm you
Speaker 5: want to rematch as well? Are you open to immediate
Speaker 5: rematch or do you have a you don't need a
Speaker 5: tune up? Do you have a tune up fight just
Speaker 5: to just to keep yourself going, y'all? Running right back, immediate,
Speaker 5: immediate and just to let y'all know, like in my contract,
Speaker 5: immediate rematch was signed. I signed for the immediate rematch
Speaker 5: when I signed for the first fight, just in case.
Speaker 5: He so, just in case it was a draw, so
Speaker 5: I put that close in there. They put the rematch
Speaker 5: clause in this, so I already signed the rematch close.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: So when you got a rematch clause? How long we taken?
Speaker 5: How long is the break before you start training again?
Speaker 9: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it six months from now? Is?
Speaker 5: It's up to the E side and when they want
Speaker 5: to fight. So I'm thinking it's gonna be soon. I'm
Speaker 5: hoping it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: So let's say that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm saying from a boxing standpoint, is a boxer,
Speaker 5: what is soon to you? I mean when you say
Speaker 5: soon to me, I'm thinking the month. I know that.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. I'm thinking of your life, yourly for sure, okay.
Speaker 3: But if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, Lamar, I
Speaker 3: think I read something that he reached out to the
Speaker 3: Lima Chico side and.
Speaker 2: See if they were interested. Did you did you read that?
Speaker 1: Also?
Speaker 2: Did you see that?
Speaker 1: I did see that?
Speaker 5: But you can't he got he can't believe everything you
Speaker 5: see and if it is, if it is true, then
Speaker 5: you know that would be funny. But I'm pretty sure
Speaker 5: the rematch happens, and I'm I'm pretty sure that's the
Speaker 5: next fight.
Speaker 3: For both bus But let me ask you this, would
Speaker 3: you be interested? Go ahead, I'm just would you be
Speaker 3: interested in fighting lom or to your female low.
Speaker 2: Pays for me?
Speaker 5: Hold up chair chair, Hey Chad, Hey, if I don't
Speaker 5: know if you're seeing me fight Saturday, I really think yeah,
Speaker 5: I was there, I would there. Listen. I've been studying
Speaker 5: you for years.
Speaker 2: You hear me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can listen.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 5: I don't have the time, but I could tell your
Speaker 5: tendencies right now, round one through seven. Okay, So if
Speaker 5: we was getting there as spar right now, I can
Speaker 5: tell you what you're gonna do by looking at your
Speaker 5: feet when you when you when you got your hand
Speaker 5: down by your hip already and you step forward, you're
Speaker 5: gonna fink No, it ain't gonna keys.
Speaker 1: Listen. I've been studying you.
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 5: So if you want to spa at any point, if
Speaker 5: you get ready for the next I think I seen
Speaker 5: you work your south yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got hands.
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, listen, they.
Speaker 5: Lamon where I'm from, they call me Hella hands. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they called me Helans.
Speaker 1: But listen.
Speaker 5: I reflecting on your performance right in that fight, Bro,
Speaker 5: I don't know, your game plan was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Everything you did you executed from round one all the
Speaker 1: way to twelve.
Speaker 5: After you have a fight like that and you put
Speaker 5: on a show like that, what aspects?
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what's how many? How do you improve
Speaker 1: off of that?
Speaker 5: Because they if you would have grade your performance that night,
Speaker 5: you get an A plus. So when you go back,
Speaker 5: what do you go back and work on after putting
Speaker 5: on a goddamn show like that? Man, just just just
Speaker 5: going on. See my thing is I always want to
Speaker 5: get better all the time, no matter if I do
Speaker 5: have a good performance or not. I just go out
Speaker 5: and I watched the tape and see what what he do. Obviously,
Speaker 5: if whatever he come with the next one that we
Speaker 5: just gotta capitalize. We're gonna add to what worse. If
Speaker 5: it ain't if it ain't broke, don't fix. But we're
Speaker 5: gonna just we're gonna add to it. We're gonna build.
Speaker 5: We're gonna build, We're gonna build. Might try to you know,
Speaker 5: pick it up so we can see if we can
Speaker 5: get that stop at jill. Now you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Never No, that's how you capitalize. That's yeah, boy, your
Speaker 5: condition was on point, broy.
Speaker 2: It was those point.
Speaker 1: Fighter man fifteen round fighter over here man for real?
Speaker 1: For sure they can't on thirteen fourteen rounds?
Speaker 2: Wait with time and no time? No what time?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 5: With ok ok ok ok o k k ok okay okay,
Speaker 5: cause you know I did twenty two rounds no clock, right.
Speaker 1: Chall We're gonna get you a camp. Maybe you can
Speaker 1: get me ready for there. Ay, matter of fact, bring
Speaker 1: me the camp. I ain't gonna charge you. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna ain't gonna charge you.
Speaker 5: I you are you four rounds unless somebody else go
Speaker 5: fall and not come back for another fold forre exchange,
Speaker 5: no robbery. I like that all right, bet man, Lamar,
Speaker 5: will you put man?
Speaker 3: Don't beat him up too bad because I need it,
Speaker 3: but I need it for nightcap. I don't wanted to
Speaker 3: come back and talk about slurry. I don't want him
Speaker 3: to come back talk to like it' gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be I think I think gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: Cause your getting body blows. Don't don't getting body blows.
Speaker 2: I'm good, good, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1: My defense, my defense is my offense. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get hit.
Speaker 3: I'm like a lot of times when guys win and
Speaker 3: they get a rematch, they're like, well, I don't have
Speaker 3: anything to improve a pun and that they run into
Speaker 3: a problem because you had a draw. Do you can
Speaker 3: you go back and say, you know what, in this
Speaker 3: situation here, I should have did this instead of that,
Speaker 3: and I might have been able to land something. Is
Speaker 3: that how you go back and approach the fight because
Speaker 3: you didn't get to win, and so you're like, well,
Speaker 3: I didn't get to win. I didn't lose technically, but
Speaker 3: I didn't win either. And I think of a fighter,
Speaker 3: you know, draws and times that ain't what we do
Speaker 3: it for. We want to be winning. We want to
Speaker 3: be on the top spot. And because you didn't land
Speaker 3: on the top spot, you feel that, you know what,
Speaker 3: go back and watch this fight through twelve rounds. Maybe
Speaker 3: if I pick it up through the first three or
Speaker 3: four rounds, maybe that's a round of two that I win.
Speaker 3: And we don't even have this discussion at the end
Speaker 3: because it looked like they gave you round twelve.
Speaker 2: Had you not won round twelve, he.
Speaker 5: Would have wanted to fight, which is sad. Honestly, So
Speaker 5: to me, I thought I wanted to fight. Clearly, I
Speaker 5: thought I want to close fight. I thought I want
Speaker 5: a very competitive fight. I'm not saying I steamrolled them
Speaker 5: or whatever, but to me, I think I want to
Speaker 5: fight now. Granted, ninth round should have been called a knockdown.
Speaker 5: Two judges on the official score cards gave him the
Speaker 5: round ten to nine. If that was a knockdown, I
Speaker 5: went around ten eight. That's a three point swing. I
Speaker 5: would win a unanimous decision, correct. So you gotta take
Speaker 5: all of that into account. It's three ways that. It's
Speaker 5: three things that could have happened in that ninth round
Speaker 5: alone with that knee, it could have been a ten
Speaker 5: round scored. A knockdown, could have been a disqualification, or
Speaker 5: I could have won by TKL.
Speaker 1: So, honestly, when you look.
Speaker 5: At that and you say I gotta draw against the
Speaker 5: number one spectacle in America, a poundful pound talent and
Speaker 5: a guy with a ninety knock our ratio, you look
Speaker 5: at it and like, okay, if you got to draw
Speaker 5: more than likely use for us to win that night.
Speaker 5: So even though I didn't get to win, I'm not
Speaker 5: a moral victory guy. I'm pissed that I didn't win, honestly, right, exactly,
Speaker 5: I'm pissed that I didn't win.
Speaker 1: But I really think that that I should have.
Speaker 5: A lot of people think that I should have, and
Speaker 5: the rematch is just gonna make it worse for him
Speaker 5: because I gotta rip it up. Like you said, I
Speaker 5: gotta do something. I gotta do something. I got to
Speaker 5: pick it up somewhere to turn this around and make
Speaker 5: it a victory for me.
Speaker 3: Lamt, you're moving up from super featherweight to lightweight. Were
Speaker 3: you afraid that moving up might rob you or some
Speaker 3: of the pot, because that's you know, normally guys that
Speaker 3: move up they lose some of the steam.
Speaker 2: Were you concerned about that? Are you going to stay?
Speaker 3: Are you going to stand super feather or are you
Speaker 3: looking to move up to maybe go one thirty five
Speaker 3: one for even higher?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, One thing that one thirty five gave me is
Speaker 1: a lot more stinging. I ain't okay. Five less pounds
Speaker 1: I had to lose.
Speaker 5: So uh so what do you do when you walk
Speaker 5: around at Lamont normally, uh I want to say, especially
Speaker 5: especially if I'm in the gymnah No, No, I walk
Speaker 5: around like one fifty uh gerin around one fifty one
Speaker 5: forty nine on a good day.
Speaker 1: If I'm on vacation, I don't get no higher than
Speaker 1: fifty five.
Speaker 2: So okay, okay, so you so I think that works.
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd
Speaker 3: Mayweather because Florida is not a naturally big man. So
Speaker 3: it was easy for him to stay at one forty
Speaker 3: seven because Florida only walking the rocket like what fifty
Speaker 3: five to begin with, So he's doing for six eight weeks,
Speaker 3: he lose five piles.
Speaker 2: That's his sweet spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for and that.
Speaker 2: Was another thing with you.
Speaker 3: It's not like you're walking around one sixty five fifty
Speaker 3: five and you got.
Speaker 2: To strip down thirty five thirty pounds.
Speaker 3: You only having to come down ten, maybe even fifteen
Speaker 3: pounds out of max. So that's a lot, that's not
Speaker 3: that's not that drastic where you see these guys have
Speaker 3: to go through this, this this massive dehydration in order
Speaker 3: to make weight, because man, you keep doing that fluctu
Speaker 3: weight in your body.
Speaker 2: Man, it takes something out of you.
Speaker 1: Man, It definitely takes a toll on you, for sure.
Speaker 5: Hey listen, after a fight like this, how much time
Speaker 5: do y'all take off, Like I mean before you get
Speaker 5: back in and gradually just start building yourself back, not
Speaker 5: only in the shape, but just making sure you don't
Speaker 5: lose that rhythm and consistency.
Speaker 1: That's tough, man, especially how boxing is today.
Speaker 5: That's more so like a personal So me personally, I
Speaker 5: don't like being out the gym too long. I get
Speaker 5: I get cussed out by my doctor because he tells
Speaker 5: me to take a break, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So and I understand, because your body need to heal rest.
Speaker 5: I've been through an eight week training camp and then
Speaker 5: went through a hard twelve round fight, so you know, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, gotta get your body together, take some time
Speaker 5: off because when you peak, when you peak, and you peak.
Speaker 1: At the right time.
Speaker 5: I think I peaked at this alf the time Saturday night,
Speaker 5: it's you know, it deplete you. So I get a
Speaker 5: little rest. I get a little rest, probably like two weeks.
Speaker 5: Then I want to be back in the gym one
Speaker 5: because I probably get you heavy, and I'm like, I
Speaker 5: don't feel I don't feel right right, you don't feel
Speaker 5: right now, and I'll be bored. I normally be in
Speaker 5: the gym, so like what we we live at?
Speaker 2: What state?
Speaker 1: I live in?
Speaker 5: D C.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I make a little trip down there.
Speaker 5: Man, whenever you be back in the gym and you
Speaker 5: want to start a sparring, I'm gonna come down there.
Speaker 1: And I got I gotta look.
Speaker 2: I gotta know.
Speaker 1: I'm a bad man, Chad, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I know, I know I'm a bad man too. Got
Speaker 5: some my teacher called me when a last Well, listen,
Speaker 5: I got a look bad for you. Right, we're gonna
Speaker 5: eight rounds, right, we're gonna do Yeah, we're gonna do eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can, if you can beat me.
Speaker 1: At least four rounds.
Speaker 5: Now, you know Lebron James, he just scored fifty thousand points, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: He said, he sent me the ball.
Speaker 5: If you can beat me, if you can win more
Speaker 5: rounds than me, I send you this ball he gave
Speaker 5: me to put up.
Speaker 4: Dad.
Speaker 1: Right now, set up, you're gonna send that up.
Speaker 3: You're gonna take that ball right the trophy case, Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: right on top of the.
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you.
Speaker 5: I'm only using my jab hand on you. Oh man,
Speaker 5: you're giving me, you're giving, You're giving it away.
Speaker 1: Nah, I mean, listen, I can. I can take her
Speaker 1: to my door and still win. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: I told you they called me. Hell hen, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you you're geting the prize away. Lebron ain't gonna like that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you ain't gonna get that. You think I'm
Speaker 1: you think I'm gonna lose to you and lose that
Speaker 1: ball for sure? It is a love.
Speaker 3: Let me let me after this little bit. After the
Speaker 3: tank fight, who would you like to fight out? To
Speaker 3: fight out the tank? Are you gonna stay at are
Speaker 3: you gonna go? Are you gonna stay? If you if
Speaker 3: you go back, if you rematch, you beat tank at
Speaker 3: one thirty five? Are you gonna stay at one thirty
Speaker 3: five or slide back down to one thirty or go
Speaker 3: up even to one forty.
Speaker 1: It depends on what's available.
Speaker 5: If the champions at thirty five are available, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: fight them. I'm gonna unify. Obviously, that's good for my career.
Speaker 5: It's like legacy fights. And on top of that they
Speaker 5: big money fights. If they're not if they're not available,
Speaker 5: I will go definitely defend my title at thirty and
Speaker 5: probably try to unify there because I can make thirty comfortably,
Speaker 5: and I feel like I run that division like I
Speaker 5: probably can even go undisputed it they let me.
Speaker 3: That's like, I'm not like Lama being a student of
Speaker 3: the game. I know you heard your dad. You weren't
Speaker 3: around there, but I know your dad has told you
Speaker 3: of whomever in your corner about the fourteen hearns Hagler, Durant,
Speaker 3: Leonard and how they fought each other and all the
Speaker 3: top contenders, and that they fought him. You go back
Speaker 3: to the seventies, you look at the heavyweights. They fought
Speaker 3: Norton fought all Lee, he fought Fraser, he fought for
Speaker 3: He fought Shavers, he fought.
Speaker 2: Our Lee, Nobody Duck.
Speaker 3: Why is it now, Lamont that we have guys and
Speaker 3: they want a cherry pick and don't want to take it.
Speaker 3: Seemed like and I love Floyd, but Floyd that fifty
Speaker 3: and oh, because nobody wants to take an ass whipping
Speaker 3: now because now they feel like my legacy is ruined.
Speaker 2: I lost the fight some of the great fighters.
Speaker 3: We don't look at our Lee because he lost three
Speaker 3: or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbick,
Speaker 3: Colarir Holmes. We don't hold that against him. We don't
Speaker 3: hold against Leonard. We don't hold against Hagli, we don't
Speaker 3: hold against Hearns. We don't hold against nobody. I don't know,
Speaker 3: and I hate that. I love Floyd and I'm glad
Speaker 3: he's undefeated. But everybody thinks, now, if I be undefeated,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be revered like Floyd.
Speaker 2: And it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It ain't. It ain't.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Floyda's one of a kind of fighter man, kind of
Speaker 5: his own. Even if a lot of people do go
Speaker 5: undefeated and retired undefeated, it's not gonna be the same.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: And it's not gonna be the same because Floyd put
Speaker 5: it in his work, Floyd Floyd fought them guys.
Speaker 9: When when he was able to everybody that he fought
Speaker 9: them guys, and he earned the right to fight who
Speaker 9: he wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the case
Speaker 9: may be.
Speaker 1: He that's that's just a once in a lifetime fighter.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know why the guys are not, well, maybe
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you a little scoop. These guys are
Speaker 5: worried about the money that they can make. If they
Speaker 5: told you if they still have an O on their record,
Speaker 5: they think that a blemish would knock down the value
Speaker 5: uh theirn whatever they have in their contract or whatever
Speaker 5: they have presented to them, which is you know, crazy
Speaker 5: to me, I think, if you put on a good
Speaker 5: enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the
Speaker 5: performances will matters. It's really what matters. So people gonna
Speaker 5: pay the scene fight. If you fight the good fights,
Speaker 5: that's what that's Yeah, that's that they're gonna pay to
Speaker 5: see it. That's why people U numbers used to be
Speaker 5: so high, because people are gonna pay.
Speaker 1: They want to see certain fights. They want to see
Speaker 1: them fights.
Speaker 3: Look at Mickey, look at Mickey Warden turo Gotti, that
Speaker 3: was jam Pack law didn't matter. People still pay big
Speaker 3: money to see that because they know they were gonna
Speaker 3: get action for sure. But now guys like you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 3: if I fault Lamont, I can make fifteen mil. But
Speaker 3: if I fight this guy that I know I can whip,
Speaker 3: I can make ten. So Why take the chance for
Speaker 3: extra five when I can get this can over here
Speaker 3: and I can whip him for ten, So hit me
Speaker 3: a couple, I get me five or ten, give me
Speaker 3: five to ten D ten million dollar fight.
Speaker 2: Why would I need to take a risk for two
Speaker 2: of those big fights?
Speaker 5: No, then do that, But then you got to think
Speaker 5: about that, Lama I told on other night. We talked
Speaker 5: about this too, Right, Not only do certain people not
Speaker 5: want to take risks, but you want to build it
Speaker 5: up until you get to the really, really good fights.
Speaker 5: So if you got like you talk about the folk
Speaker 5: kings back then, back in the day, right and today's,
Speaker 5: if you got the best boxes right, and if all
Speaker 5: the best boxes fight each other right now and not
Speaker 5: have fight out the fight out the fight, and.
Speaker 1: Actually you build it so people want.
Speaker 5: To actually actually want to watch, and you can maximize
Speaker 5: your your pay. That's a little different. Think about how
Speaker 5: long before Early and Bud actually fought. Look how long
Speaker 5: it took, Look how many fights they had because they
Speaker 5: was a build up to it. So from that standpoint,
Speaker 5: I kind of get it and understand you want to
Speaker 5: maximize your pay. You also nobody wants to lose, But
Speaker 5: at some point they ain't gonna have no choice but
Speaker 5: to fight each other.
Speaker 2: You got to be right, But.
Speaker 3: Thanks about it and Lama you know this. Sugar Ray
Speaker 3: went to one sixty to play Hadler went up. They
Speaker 3: then had'd come down. They went to him and the
Speaker 3: thirty five they went up to cl Sugar Ray was
Speaker 3: one forty seven, went to one sixty.
Speaker 2: Packler Herd with one forty seven went to one sixty.
Speaker 1: You're definitely right about that.
Speaker 5: That's middle Waight and Ray, Ray and Durant started at
Speaker 5: thirty five.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, one of the best light rights to
Speaker 1: have a Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 3: Of guys started, Yes, a lot of those guys started
Speaker 3: there O Joe thirty thirty five, fort Floyd thirty thirty five,
Speaker 3: forty forty seven, and for h De la.
Speaker 2: Hoya at fifty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, a lot of them got yeah
Speaker 3: and had Pop pacya the novel they pack yas of
Speaker 3: that that one one o six.
Speaker 2: He blew through and blew through everything.
Speaker 1: Division eight, Division Champions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 3: Gonna see that. Even even when you look at Armstrong,
Speaker 3: you look at all those guys, nobody's doing this again.
Speaker 3: Nobody gonna do that. Yeah, I mean, basically you'd have
Speaker 3: to start and saying you'd have to start in like
Speaker 3: one forty and go to heavyweight to try to clean
Speaker 3: try to clean out of everything that that ain't not
Speaker 3: happening all.
Speaker 1: Roy wasn't a boy.
Speaker 7: Yeah ten years straight away, Roy.
Speaker 3: Wait, if Roy had had Roy just stayed there and
Speaker 3: not script the muscle that he put on to go
Speaker 3: to heavy because I think that took a lot out
Speaker 3: of it, That took too much out of him. He
Speaker 3: probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come
Speaker 3: back down or just took his time. Roy won the title,
Speaker 3: couldn't get nobody else to fight, gave the title look
Speaker 3: and came back down, and he wasn't the same after
Speaker 3: Tarboro beat him that one time. He was never the
Speaker 3: same because he got started getting beat by fighters that Roy.
Speaker 3: Roy would have marked the flu inside of five rounds
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's next, tank?
Speaker 3: I mean, excuse me, what's next to all of my
Speaker 3: what's next after after this tank?
Speaker 2: After this tank? You said you want to fight whoever
Speaker 2: the big money fighter is, who.
Speaker 3: Ate Lomo hell Femo hate whoever the champions?
Speaker 1: At one thirty five right now, Keishan Davis And Yeah, chicken.
Speaker 5: Okay, good, that's what that's that's who we're gonna be
Speaker 5: looking at after you know what I'm saying, After after
Speaker 5: I be tanked, after I be tanking and rematch.
Speaker 1: Uh we want you know, if.
Speaker 5: Them guys ain't available, then we gonna go to thirty
Speaker 5: and defend my one hundred thirty pound championship. So listen,
Speaker 5: out of those three you just named, who would you
Speaker 5: prefer to fight first if you can't get all three,
Speaker 5: If if you had a preference, if I had a preference,
Speaker 5: I don't really got a preference. I want I would.
Speaker 5: I would put a blindfold on the pick whichever one.
Speaker 1: It don't matter.
Speaker 3: Whoever, Hey, whoever owned this ass whipping, I won't whip
Speaker 3: for sure. Half about a fight. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: I tell you what, Lomo, you gonna get it first,
Speaker 3: So you're gonna get it after I get tanked. When
Speaker 3: I get tanked, I'm gonna get you at the first
Speaker 3: of the year. Hey, Core, I'm gonna come see you
Speaker 3: in July, Keith Sean David, Hey, at the end of
Speaker 3: the year or twenty seven.
Speaker 2: I got your I got you ass whipping too.
Speaker 1: Hey sound good to me?
Speaker 3: Him?
Speaker 1: Sound real good.
Speaker 2: Hey man, I appreciate it. Congratulations, great fight.
Speaker 3: It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for because
Speaker 3: you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp and
Speaker 3: you put the time in to win. It didn't go
Speaker 3: his way, but who knows what's gonna happen July August
Speaker 3: when the next fight come around. Wish you the best
Speaker 3: and guess what, come back and join us again when
Speaker 3: the fight happened, and off we'll see what happens after that.
Speaker 2: Lamar, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Appreciate well, do thank you, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see in DC. Had no doubt.
Speaker 1: Give my contact. We'll bring you out for sure.
Speaker 3: All right, body, cause you need to talk, so I
Speaker 3: don't want him to Yeah, that's what I want you
Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, yeah, I want to hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure I recorded to We have it all
Speaker 1: what I need to do. All right, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: appreciate a good.
Speaker 2: One by you too.
Speaker 1: Thank y'all.
Speaker 2: Man, all right, bro Lamar rode Julia. Bad, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Bad.
Speaker 3: It was great talking to Oh Joe, you have your
Speaker 3: that's that's your thing, box of your things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun. That was fun.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. That was It's always
Speaker 2: great to get these guys.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gonna reach out to Roy because
Speaker 3: I want to hear what Roy gotta think on this
Speaker 3: Roy John, I'm gonna here. I'm gonna here row up tomorrow.
Speaker 3: See if I can get Roy to come on and
Speaker 3: talk about this fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Hey, matter of fact, that'll be that know, that'd be good.
Speaker 5: You get wrong here Roy to tell you the stories
Speaker 5: about why.
Speaker 2: We're so smart. Man. You ain't want nothing, Roy, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, we come on now.
Speaker 2: You know boy from Downhill now yeah.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Roy's to spot when I was in
Speaker 1: high school. I just to spake with him some time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He from Uh, he from the same place Brooks
Speaker 2: from mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Hey man, boy, he quick than the mother fucker boy. Yes,
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Oh he from Pensacola.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he from deep Brooks and uh. I played with
Speaker 3: another guy named Omit from Pennsacola too, Emmy Smith from Pensacola. Yeah,
Speaker 3: image from Pensacola. Yes, yes, that Himmy, that's Roy homeboy,
Speaker 3: Roy Emmitt They homeboy from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I ain't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeahn from Penstacola.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, boy, I.
Speaker 2: Just learned something. Yeah yeah, yeah boy.
Speaker 1: I used to be piece of Royals up from Daies.
Speaker 5: Boy.
Speaker 1: We gotta get roy on here, man. We told him
Speaker 1: we got it.
Speaker 2: We'll get it.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Kevin Durant and Coach Bud got into it
Speaker 3: last night. Check this interaction out, Oh Joe. During the
Speaker 3: time early in the game, Coach Budden holds a grab
Speaker 3: KT's arm in an apparent attempt to pull him in
Speaker 3: for a conversation, but KD pulled his arm away. Then
Speaker 3: they engaged in a brief animated conversation before party Ways.
Speaker 3: Kat spoke about it after the game. Let's take a
Speaker 3: listen to what Katie had to say.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what usually happens when you don't know the
Speaker 8: dynamics of a relationship.
Speaker 2: You know, you catch something on.
Speaker 8: TV, you did a quote and now even pushing that
Speaker 8: narrative as if me and Blood don't do that shit
Speaker 8: all the time. Were competitive as two individuals who want
Speaker 8: to see things done the right way, and sometimes my
Speaker 8: way ain't the way that Bud want to do it,
Speaker 8: and vice versa, and he allows me as a player
Speaker 8: on the team, vetter than on the team or voice
Speaker 8: my team. If I if we both didn't care, we
Speaker 8: would never have stuff like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, and I'm glad that the win is sweep all
Speaker 2: that stupid.
Speaker 8: Stuff under the road because they couldn't People couldn't wait,
Speaker 8: even some people with Phoenix ain't here, couldn't wait to
Speaker 8: run with that, you know. And so this is this
Speaker 8: is the reason why the team ain't playing well because
Speaker 8: it's that specific thing. But come on, now, that shows
Speaker 8: that me and Budd really cared about trying to break
Speaker 8: this ship and trying to win basketball game. So if
Speaker 8: he understands one coming from, don't understand exactly where he's
Speaker 8: coming from. This is people on the outside don't know
Speaker 8: the dynamics of the relationship. So you know, in order
Speaker 8: for them to get some attention, they're gonna run with
Speaker 8: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: You heard it, Yes, he says, Hey, sometimes I see
Speaker 3: things one way, but don't see it that way. Times
Speaker 3: Buzz see things one way, I don't see it that way.
Speaker 3: We have a difference of agree, we have a different opinions,
Speaker 3: And hey, he cares, I care. We trying to get
Speaker 3: this ship righted and and he right. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: that makes it seem like that's never happened before. I've
Speaker 3: seen coaching the players. They shove each other at all,
Speaker 3: curse all that kind of stuff. It happens. You get
Speaker 3: two anime testosterone driven men that I believe what I'm
Speaker 3: saying is right. He believes what he's saying is right.
Speaker 3: Two people can't be right. Maybe hey, two things can
Speaker 3: be true. Maybe you're right and maybe he's right, But
Speaker 3: at that point in time, we don't see it that way.
Speaker 3: I want you to see my point of view, bro,
Speaker 3: I need you to see my point of view.
Speaker 2: Right, But I don't know what happens.
Speaker 3: But I know KD went crazy in the fourth quarter
Speaker 3: and they were down twenty three and they won the game.
Speaker 2: That's what I do know.
Speaker 5: Listen, the funny thing about it with the Suns. Listen,
Speaker 5: when you're losing everything and magnified, Yep, when you're losing
Speaker 5: the way they are, even though they won that specific game,
Speaker 5: everything is magnified. Unless you played organized sports and instruction environment,
Speaker 5: you'll never understand that dynamic. You'll never understand it that
Speaker 5: goes on all the time, especially when it comes to
Speaker 5: a player of that magnitude, that's great, and you have
Speaker 5: a coach and the coach wants to see you and
Speaker 5: do your best or if you're not playing to your
Speaker 5: full potential, they.
Speaker 1: Gonna get on you just like that.
Speaker 2: Yep, that had been not.
Speaker 5: Just at the at the at the at the elite
Speaker 5: level with NBA players, NFL players.
Speaker 1: It starts even when you're young.
Speaker 5: The problem that you gotta worry about is when you
Speaker 5: have a coach that cares about you and he stops
Speaker 5: talking to you and he doesn't try to correct you.
Speaker 5: He said he's knock on your head and trying to
Speaker 5: get you to do things the right way. That means
Speaker 5: he doesn't care. So what I see as a former athlete,
Speaker 5: stuff like that happened. It resonates with me because I've
Speaker 5: been in that situation before with Hugh Jackson getting on
Speaker 5: me on the sideline. Of course, because I'm trying my hardest,
Speaker 5: I fire back. No, I'm talking. I talked back a
Speaker 5: little bit. But you know you man, he will. He
Speaker 5: will grab me by the neck. Man, don't play me,
Speaker 5: Yeah not today.
Speaker 3: You're from Carton, Hey, you don't play food good people,
Speaker 3: but you good people.
Speaker 2: I like you.
Speaker 3: But you're right, You're absolutely right. With a lot of times,
Speaker 3: like you know, and the heat of the battle, you forget. Man, Man,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't this front of all these people because there's
Speaker 3: seventy eighty thousand people watching and these cameras everywhere. You
Speaker 3: forget sometime though you do forget, you, you absolutely forget.
Speaker 3: I always try to be mindful, you know, A let's
Speaker 3: get this behind closed door. I'm just gonna give you
Speaker 3: a look.
Speaker 5: You mean, like that look you gave me and you
Speaker 5: thought I was late on first day like that, Hey hey, hey,
Speaker 5: now that was that?
Speaker 3: Would like like coaches like, hey, bro, look here, I
Speaker 3: won't allow you to say anything to me.
Speaker 2: Mayor Porter didn't say right that.
Speaker 3: Port ain't never called me no more for she ain't
Speaker 3: never called me no so ob So now if you
Speaker 3: think you can call me that, now you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this uniform off. I'm gonna whoop your
Speaker 3: ass because I know I ain't gonna be here. But
Speaker 3: all that, all that, all that stupid you know what.
Speaker 3: I don't play that mm hmm, now give me that,
Speaker 3: because no, I don't play like that, O Joe, I don't.
Speaker 3: So we have a we just had. I had a
Speaker 3: great understanding. Hey, bro, don't hey, come on now, I
Speaker 3: ain't your kids. I got kids. You got kids, I
Speaker 3: got kids. You just can't talk to me any kind
Speaker 3: of way. Understand, trust me, tell me what I did wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make that same mistake twice. But you're
Speaker 3: not finna call me dumb. You know you stupid? No, No,
Speaker 3: get that like that.
Speaker 2: I ain't. I ain't finna hold you.
Speaker 3: You're always talk about sensity of all you want to
Speaker 3: But I'm big. I'm huge respect respect.
Speaker 2: I give it to everybody. I give.
Speaker 3: I believe every man or woman deserves a certain level
Speaker 3: of respect. Now, when that level of respect dissipates, it's
Speaker 3: best that you and I go our separate ways. That's okay,
Speaker 3: we don't look we and then sometimes Joe like we
Speaker 3: you on the team. You ain't gonna get along with everybody. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 3: you do your thing. I'm gonna do my thing on
Speaker 3: this field.
Speaker 1: What what what?
Speaker 2: Hey? When the whistle blow is trying to go out
Speaker 2: certain ways?
Speaker 3: Yeah about the locker room, aid, like I don't even
Speaker 3: know you?
Speaker 2: There it is it is, yeah there, it is all
Speaker 2: this man? You bro, he was a teammate.
Speaker 1: You not.
Speaker 3: You not buddy buddy with everybody that's on your team.
Speaker 3: You buddy buddy with everybody.
Speaker 2: In your workouts.
Speaker 3: Y'all go out to lunch and do happy hour, go
Speaker 3: to each other's crib.
Speaker 2: No, that's what I mean. Some guys are close like that,
Speaker 2: O Joe. They are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, some guys not. This ain't college where you
Speaker 3: see it. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna pass
Speaker 3: the guy in the hallway and the going to class
Speaker 3: or he might be in the same class.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys they got families, they got kids,
Speaker 3: and y'all. You know, we were on different wavelengths, and
Speaker 3: that's okay. We just try to do the same when
Speaker 3: we at work. Hopefully we got the same goal, Ojo,
Speaker 3: to try to win as many game as we possibly
Speaker 3: can once you go home.
Speaker 2: Done deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not making too I'm not making too
Speaker 3: much out of it with that KD interaction has happened.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I've seen coaches, hey, coaching and player. Man,
Speaker 3: I see the college. I've seen basketball player beat the
Speaker 3: basketball coach. So now we had to go pull him
Speaker 3: up off it. I ain't oh yo, when I say
Speaker 3: he beat him down. Oh yo, When I say he
Speaker 3: beat him.
Speaker 1: Down, right, he must have said something slicker.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he said. And because you know, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm looking at the bathroom. Whether I see
Speaker 3: him argue I'm right, because I ain't never seen the look.
Speaker 3: Oh I've seen players and coaches argue in that setting
Speaker 3: on the football field, on the basket. Okay, that's one thing,
Speaker 3: but bro, we're not We're not in that environment. We're
Speaker 3: not on the football field, We're not on the basketball court.
Speaker 3: Now you you argue with me like we just two
Speaker 3: ninjas in the street, right, So I'm like.
Speaker 2: What that is?
Speaker 3: I said, May let me go on down there for
Speaker 3: something pop off? So I go down there. I'm just
Speaker 3: you know, I'm I ain't got nothing to do with me,
Speaker 3: so I really shouldn't be the next thing.
Speaker 2: I know, whoa who what?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Joe, I'd be like, okay, you probably add for him,
Speaker 3: because first of all, you don't live on campus, but
Speaker 3: you bring your ass back on campus after practice is
Speaker 3: over to come back up here in front of this man,
Speaker 3: you probably was getting what you deserve.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Where I intervene when he started kicking and putting feet
Speaker 3: on him, get to get him up off here, and
Speaker 3: they're like, bro, now look you coach, go ahead on now,
Speaker 3: cause if I turn this man loose after I done
Speaker 3: got him, apopia, that's on you.
Speaker 2: That's you.
Speaker 3: Hey, I call mother, Hey man, manet get coach up
Speaker 3: out of here. Oh Joe, when I say he whipped it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 5: So if that was a coach that the player was
Speaker 5: part of the team, yes, hold on, was a player
Speaker 5: allowed to remain on the team after that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he. I think he ended up leaving
Speaker 3: on his own, but he didn't kick him off. If
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, I think what the coach fought. Okay,
Speaker 3: so he must have been a star player.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: He wasn't a start player, but he was a good player.
Speaker 3: He was a decent player.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: But my thing is, if I'm a coach, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you let a puppy licky in the mind,
Speaker 3: you better be careful because he's gonna grow up to
Speaker 3: be a dog and he'll bite you.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 10: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 10: hold on. Boy as a good one. Now, why why
Speaker 10: you know I don't. I don't go nowhere without it.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, if you let it, if you let let
Speaker 3: a puppy licky in the mouth, he'll grow up and
Speaker 3: bite you when he become a dog.
Speaker 2: See, if you put yourself on that level.
Speaker 3: See the problem that the coach had is that he
Speaker 3: put himself on that level to be with the player.
Speaker 3: So the player no longer looked at him as the coach.
Speaker 3: He looked at him as like a calm, like another player.
Speaker 1: Let a puppy licky in the mouth.
Speaker 3: And so that's why that's O joe. That's why with
Speaker 3: kids you stay up here.
Speaker 2: O joe.
Speaker 3: You don't say, oh, that's my friend. Oh that's my
Speaker 3: best friend. Me and my daughter, me and my son.
Speaker 3: We like freek we like best friends. Ain't no way,
Speaker 3: not no, no, we not. I'll tell your ass up. I'm dead.