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Speaker 5: And you think Lamar roach right, you think he'll fight

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Speaker 2: I just want to know for you mean, will he

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Speaker 5: No, he got a knock down. There's a difference, that's

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Speaker 3: He ain't he touching Lamar gon put them punches. You see, Lamar,

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Speaker 3: how you putting them punches together?

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Speaker 2: On take? You're not used to seeing punches?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am you.

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Speaker 5: Sam. You're saying I've been fighting the past six years.

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna ask him.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no no. Sparring is different than fighting.

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Speaker 3: Lebron James became the first player to score fifty thousand

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Speaker 3: He also became the oldest player to ever be named

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what he's done. And he's also done a

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Speaker 5: can I get that fifty thousand point ball when you

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Speaker 5: Huh, yeah, he signed it. Let me finish, Let me finish.

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Speaker 5: You've been a legend in your own right, and your energy,

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Speaker 6: can you see you? He said, you put Kenny days.

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Speaker 5: Family, and if at any point in life, I doubt

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna have no choice.

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Speaker 5: Sure, I ain't gonna choice, like like like a chick

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Speaker 5: Get it right up, you get it up, giving it up?

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Speaker 5: Hey but lebron, Hey, real talk boy. I love you,

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Speaker 2: Right, he's been.

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Speaker 3: It's remarkable and I'm not sure we'll ever see it again.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I got an opportunity to watch Jordan

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why I'm getting emotional because it means

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Speaker 1: I don't care what they say about you.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if Lebron, because Luca is really the

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Speaker 2: He can flash, he can cut. You see what he's

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Speaker 3: So imagine Lebron at twenty five and thirty and he

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Speaker 3: Luca can do everything that Lebron does, and Lebron gets

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Speaker 3: to focus on just this. Yes, what do you think

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Speaker 2: Primarily that's gonna go to Luca.

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Speaker 3: I saw magic, never saw I saw magic in person one.

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Speaker 3: To see these guys play Lebron Kobe shot. I don't

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Speaker 2: Oh your Here is what we're saying.

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Speaker 3: We're under the assumption, huh, we're under the assumption that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he can keep going, especially when Luke ad to him.

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Speaker 5: Now you know, Luca could take it, take a play

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Speaker 5: another two three oh yeah, easily. He could easily play

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: He's like no, because you're like, hey, bro, I know

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe. I can see him playing another two to

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe. Jennie Buss says, Anthony Davis wasn't happy. We

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Speaker 3: I think this was a positive for both teams. They

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe. Do you believe that was fair for Jeanie

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Speaker 1: Mean well kind of kind of to give him a reason.

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Speaker 3: Remember, you like for people to be honest, You like

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Speaker 5: I like for him to be honest, and that that

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Speaker 1: But if you if you're not happy and you.

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Speaker 5: Keep thinking behind closed doors internally, this is what you get.

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Speaker 1: They ain't give you your wish. Now you got your wish.

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Speaker 5: Just so happened that Luca became available and it worked

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're not happy.

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Speaker 5: Look, we're gonna do your We're gonna we're gonna do

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Speaker 5: your solid young boy, we're gonna see you over the

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Speaker 5: Dallas and Luke we're gonna come over here and both

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Speaker 5: I mean outside of being injured. Outside of being injured.

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Speaker 3: Me and I'm try to be like eighty, wasn't asking

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Speaker 3: kicch Yes, just giving him an able bodied person so

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Speaker 3: then the last five minutes of the game, y'all play

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Speaker 3: In order for this deal to get consummated, a D

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Speaker 5: Closed doors, okay, okay, okay, well, well and listen at

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Speaker 3: It probably it's hard for me now, it's hard for

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Speaker 3: Okay for sure, because if you go back, if you

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Speaker 3: And I get it. I mean, like I said, I

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Speaker 2: Let me add it.

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Speaker 3: I don't really think I don't really think that's a

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Speaker 3: and said, now I ain't waiting for my trade clause

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Speaker 3: I came to La. I'm gonna stay in La and

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Speaker 3: then now Luca's maybe somewhere, so the trade doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, I just think of a

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Speaker 3: Just sit on that information, you know it, and that's

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Speaker 3: But it's okay if everything is not is not brought up,

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Speaker 3: I mean, but and uh, it ain't no harm and

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna it's gonna all see what it's all

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Speaker 3: y'all make it seem who the hell y'all think. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers puts put somebody out every year. The Celtics

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Speaker 3: second this year. Who have to say he doesn't win

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Speaker 3: losing to nicolea Jokic bad, right, That's like Toronto said, man,

436
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: every year, man, we lost to Lebron.

437
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 2: Really do what y'all feel bad about? Lose to Lebron

438
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: every year, right.

439
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 3: A lot of people lost to Lebron or losing the staff,

440
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: or losing to one of these other great players over

441
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 3: a stending period of time. There is nothing wrong with that.

442
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: Joining us now fought to a majority draw Saturday night.

443
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't look like he's too pleased with that. And

444
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 3: there are a lot of people on social media that

445
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: actually thought he won that fight. Joining us Lamart Roach,

446
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Speaker 3: Junior Lamont, How you doing, bro?

447
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Speaker 1: What's up?

448
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 6: Man?

449
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm good man. Thanks for having me. I feel real good.

450
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 3: No, thanks for having thanks for joining us. Take us

451
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 3: through Saturday and you go into that fight. You move

452
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 3: up five files, you're one to thirty five, and you

453
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: move up and you feeling I mean, everybody's that man.

454
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: Ain't No, he got no chance. Tank told you a

455
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: couple of days earlier. He goes, hey, you're not going

456
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: the distance, y'all shake very little, two fifty.

457
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be. You going to that fight.

458
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: You know, tanks the slow starter builds up as the

459
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 3: fight progresses. Know he's trying to land, hook to the body,

460
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: come up top with it. What was your process, What

461
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 3: were going into that fight, how did you want to fight?

462
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: And did the fight turn out the way you thought

463
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: it would?

464
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: Well?

465
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 5: Honestly, yeah, the fight, the fight when exactly how we

466
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 5: planned it to go.

467
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: Honestly, you know, Uh, we're familiar with him. We've been

468
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: familiar with him.

469
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 5: Uh. We just knew it was a matter of time

470
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 5: for everything to fall into play. And back to the

471
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 5: whole everybody not giving me a shot saying I'm gonna

472
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: get knocked out and all this and all that. I

473
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 5: know what I'm cabble with and I know what I

474
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 5: could do. Like they just in the nut show they have,

475
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 5: they had me totally messed up, and especially when he

476
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 5: bet me saying he's gonna stop me, what do it do?

477
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: I told him himself, I said, you tripping. I said,

478
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what got into your head these last

479
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, few day, whatever the case on you tripping.

480
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: You know you're not gonna do that, dude. I don't

481
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: know why I told him that. I know you know

482
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do that. Cut it out.

483
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, listen, when you talk about you're very familiar

484
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 5: with him, and I understand you and your team.

485
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: You went into the fight with a game plan. Is

486
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: it familiarity the.

487
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 5: Fact that you guys probably trained together in the past,

488
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 5: or you've been in camp together in the past, you

489
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 5: spared together.

490
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: Is that why you were so familiar And whatever.

491
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 5: Game plan your team did have and we're able to execute,

492
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 5: is that why it went so well?

493
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's one of the many reasons why

494
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: I went so well. Even though we were kids. You know,

495
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: some of them traits, characteristics and just ways of a

496
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: man who like grew with him.

497
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

498
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 5: So, uh, you know some of the some of the

499
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: like some of the dirty tactics. I knew that he'd

500
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 5: you know, revert to that when that pressure built up,

501
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 5: when somebody that was there that wasn't scared of, when

502
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 5: somebody was there that was there to return firing. And

503
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, he ain't been in the

504
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 5: ring in his professional career. He hasn't been in the ring,

505
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 5: or something like that or something like accountable what I

506
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 5: got back, So what I thought, obviously watching the fight,

507
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 5: and when I look at all his tape fights, most

508
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 5: of us happened.

509
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: Obviously. He starts slow, and then round five six he

510
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: started to pick it up.

511
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 5: A little bit, and by the time as he's picking

512
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 5: it up normally his opponent is deteriorating, thinkingdition ain't we're

513
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 5: supposed to be. But I'm looking at you. They get

514
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: to a round six and seven and he coming forward

515
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: and you ain't even you not even moving.

516
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: So at that point, y'all men range and you sitting

517
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: in the pocket.

518
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: And most of the time when he hit somebody, they retreat,

519
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 5: but you get you took one to give one.

520
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm like what he boy?

521
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 8: Boy?

522
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, so did the power not affect you

523
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: in any way where you didn't really care? We just

524
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: sat in the pocket with him in exchange because most

525
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: of the time, I mean, you.

526
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: Got to be cautious.

527
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 5: You gotta be cautious because when throwing punches, you know

528
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 5: you got a chance to get hit, you know, when

529
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 5: you're letting go.

530
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: Did you not care at all? Or did you feel

531
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: his power early? And really one world.

532
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 5: About it, So it wasn't that I wasn't I wasn't caring. Uh,

533
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 5: I was cautious, Like you said, I was cautious. But

534
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 5: but the defense, the defense is there, and the confidence

535
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 5: was was through the roof h and I got a change,

536
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 5: you keep a spade to spade, Like you know what

537
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like I see why he knocked people out.

538
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say the power is overrated. But I've

539
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 5: been in there with guys who could punch. I mean,

540
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 5: like with guys who can punch. So it's like it's

541
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 5: it's nothing. It was nothing new to me. I've been

542
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 5: in there with middleweight champions. I've been in there with

543
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 5: junior middleweight champions, I mean like as they were champion

544
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 5: in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like,

545
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like I was confident and

546
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 5: what I could do defensively, and if I get hit, I.

547
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Know I know I was gonna give it right back.

548
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 5: Right, So listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know,

549
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 5: I you know, I get excited about but listen, hey,

550
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 5: young boy. And in the ninth round, you know, Jamonte

551
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: took a knee. Obviously there's some controversy behind that. It

552
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: wasn't rule to knockdown by the referee. I've never seen

553
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 5: that ever. And then my years of watching a you know,

554
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 5: watching boxing, andy and joying the sport of combat sports

555
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 5: in general, did that moment impact your strategy for the

556
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 5: remainder of the fight. I'm gonna say no, and let

557
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 5: me tell you why. Yeah, the simple fact that he

558
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 5: took the knee is is it was really a boost

559
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 5: because it's like, all right, it's okay, all right, what

560
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 5: we're doing is working. We know that he looking for

561
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 5: some It should have been a knock down one.

562
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm yelling at the referee, like, keep counting,

563
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: like you tripping, keep counting.

564
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 5: That's a knocking because if y'all didn't notice he started

565
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: the count, he started the count.

566
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: He did cut it, and then he stopped.

567
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: Yes, he started, okay, So so when we resumed the action,

568
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, what you doing?

569
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Keep counting? Like you can't do that?

570
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 5: Right, So and then it wasn't even registering or processing

571
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: through my mind. The other rules to the simple fact

572
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 5: that he could have got disqualified for having his.

573
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: Corner come up to the ring and assystem doing around, or.

574
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: You can't do that, or he can't turn his back

575
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: on the like doing the that's cause for it.

576
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: That's that's the wave it all. He took a knee

577
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: and then turned around and went to the corner breadthord

578
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: usually turning turn stop the fight. Oh I ain't, I ain't.

579
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: I ain't know that.

580
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: I'm watching you a lot of times when when people

581
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: hit Tank, like was saying they retreat, But it seemed

582
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: like you had a strategy like if he hit me,

583
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit his ass back just just as many

584
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: times as he hit me. And I don't think he

585
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: expected you to return to kind of five that you returned.

586
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Because you wabbled him a couple of times.

587
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: And I'm not so sure that I've seen Tank wobble,

588
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: like when you called him a couple of times and

589
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: you were getting through the guard. I mean, hey, normally

590
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: a south Fall fighter that lead right is a home

591
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: run right down and right down Broad Street. And you

592
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: kept touching him with.

593
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: It, for sure. Uh, it was one of the it

594
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: was one of the many things that we trained for. Uh.

595
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Obviously he happy.

596
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 5: Go lucky with his left and and been working for

597
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 5: his whole career. He's been knocking these dudes out, so

598
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 5: you know, we've been training. We were just sitting on

599
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: the left being able to working on counter and working

600
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 5: on you know, being able to block and come back.

601
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 5: And we had some pretty fast guys and then we

602
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 5: had some pretty strong guys that I had to, you know, uh,

603
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 5: switch rounds with every like you know, every sponse, just

604
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 5: so you know we was ready. We was prepared. And

605
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 5: like you said, them dudes wasn't really really cracking him back,

606
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: and I was really throwing that fire at him, and

607
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: the accuracy was really probably pissed them off to Yeah,

608
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 5: and the fact that I was busy, it's like this

609
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: ain't stopping.

610
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping

611
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: the pace up. Like Ochre said, he's a guy that

612
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: likes to start slow so he have some energy reserved.

613
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: So when he.

614
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: Comes out from five through twelve, he's like, I got

615
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: a lot left. I know, I ain't really spent no gas. Hey,

616
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: I've just been coos and now I've been on electric goal.

617
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: Now I got this fire, got this gas in the tank.

618
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: I'm in the unleashed. But it meant you met fire

619
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: with fire. And I've heard Floyd say that like when

620
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: he went into a fight, he never watched tape on

621
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: the guy that he was fighting. He left that up

622
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: to his corner to watch the fight and then tell

623
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: him instructions. He would take all that information and then

624
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: once he got into the ring.

625
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Do you watch fight?

626
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: Do you when you going against a fighter, do you

627
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: watch them or you leave that up to your corner

628
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: to watch and then give you an instruction of what

629
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 3: you should do.

630
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 5: I don't watch them a lot. I'm just so, I

631
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: just so happened to be a boxing fan. That the

632
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: fact that I do watch him fight, You know what

633
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like I really like boxing, he is, uh,

634
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 5: he's just somebody to watch the inspected creed knockout all

635
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 5: this skilled guy, like one of the one and better

636
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 5: powerful pound fighters. I like watching good fights, so I

637
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: do know some of his tendencies. But to study him,

638
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: uh not really. I left it up to my dad.

639
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 5: But one time, one day, like one day in camp,

640
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 5: we did sit down and watch a few of his

641
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 5: fights back to back. Mm hmm, hey, listen, Tank Tank.

642
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 5: His publicly express interests obviously in a rematch. I'm you

643
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 5: want to rematch as well? Are you open to immediate

644
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: rematch or do you have a you don't need a

645
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 5: tune up? Do you have a tune up fight just

646
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 5: to just to keep yourself going, y'all? Running right back, immediate,

647
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 5: immediate and just to let y'all know, like in my contract,

648
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: immediate rematch was signed. I signed for the immediate rematch

649
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: when I signed for the first fight, just in case.

650
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: He so, just in case it was a draw, so

651
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 5: I put that close in there. They put the rematch

652
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: clause in this, so I already signed the rematch close.

653
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

654
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 5: So when you got a rematch clause? How long we taken?

655
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 5: How long is the break before you start training again?

656
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 9: Is it?

657
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Is it six months from now? Is?

658
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 5: It's up to the E side and when they want

659
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 5: to fight. So I'm thinking it's gonna be soon. I'm

660
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: hoping it's gonna be.

661
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: So let's say that.

662
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm saying from a boxing standpoint, is a boxer,

663
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 5: what is soon to you? I mean when you say

664
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: soon to me, I'm thinking the month. I know that.

665
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. I'm thinking of your life, yourly for sure, okay.

666
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: But if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, Lamar, I

667
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: think I read something that he reached out to the

668
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: Lima Chico side and.

669
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: See if they were interested. Did you did you read that?

670
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: Also?

671
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: Did you see that?

672
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: I did see that?

673
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: But you can't he got he can't believe everything you

674
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 5: see and if it is, if it is true, then

675
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: you know that would be funny. But I'm pretty sure

676
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 5: the rematch happens, and I'm I'm pretty sure that's the

677
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 5: next fight.

678
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: For both bus But let me ask you this, would

679
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: you be interested? Go ahead, I'm just would you be

680
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: interested in fighting lom or to your female low.

681
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: Pays for me?

682
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 5: Hold up chair chair, Hey Chad, Hey, if I don't

683
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: know if you're seeing me fight Saturday, I really think yeah,

684
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 5: I was there, I would there. Listen. I've been studying

685
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: you for years.

686
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: You hear me.

687
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I can listen.

688
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: Listen.

689
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 5: I don't have the time, but I could tell your

690
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 5: tendencies right now, round one through seven. Okay, So if

691
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: we was getting there as spar right now, I can

692
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: tell you what you're gonna do by looking at your

693
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 5: feet when you when you when you got your hand

694
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: down by your hip already and you step forward, you're

695
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 5: gonna fink No, it ain't gonna keys.

696
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: Listen. I've been studying you.

697
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: I know you.

698
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 5: So if you want to spa at any point, if

699
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 5: you get ready for the next I think I seen

700
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: you work your south yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got hands.

701
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, listen, they.

702
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: Lamon where I'm from, they call me Hella hands. Yeah,

703
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 5: they called me Helans.

704
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: But listen.

705
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 5: I reflecting on your performance right in that fight, Bro,

706
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 5: I don't know, your game plan was phenomenal.

707
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: Everything you did you executed from round one all the

708
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: way to twelve.

709
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 5: After you have a fight like that and you put

710
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: on a show like that, what aspects?

711
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what's how many? How do you improve

712
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: off of that?

713
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: Because they if you would have grade your performance that night,

714
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: you get an A plus. So when you go back,

715
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 5: what do you go back and work on after putting

716
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: on a goddamn show like that? Man, just just just

717
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 5: going on. See my thing is I always want to

718
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 5: get better all the time, no matter if I do

719
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 5: have a good performance or not. I just go out

720
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 5: and I watched the tape and see what what he do. Obviously,

721
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 5: if whatever he come with the next one that we

722
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 5: just gotta capitalize. We're gonna add to what worse. If

723
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 5: it ain't if it ain't broke, don't fix. But we're

724
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 5: gonna just we're gonna add to it. We're gonna build.

725
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: We're gonna build, We're gonna build. Might try to you know,

726
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 5: pick it up so we can see if we can

727
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 5: get that stop at jill. Now you know what I'm saying.

728
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 5: Never No, that's how you capitalize. That's yeah, boy, your

729
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 5: condition was on point, broy.

730
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: It was those point.

731
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Fighter man fifteen round fighter over here man for real?

732
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: For sure they can't on thirteen fourteen rounds?

733
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: Wait with time and no time? No what time?

734
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: For sure?

735
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 5: With ok ok ok ok o k k ok okay okay,

736
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 5: cause you know I did twenty two rounds no clock, right.

737
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: Chall We're gonna get you a camp. Maybe you can

738
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: get me ready for there. Ay, matter of fact, bring

739
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: me the camp. I ain't gonna charge you. I ain't

740
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna ain't gonna charge you.

741
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 5: I you are you four rounds unless somebody else go

742
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 5: fall and not come back for another fold forre exchange,

743
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 5: no robbery. I like that all right, bet man, Lamar,

744
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 5: will you put man?

745
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: Don't beat him up too bad because I need it,

746
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: but I need it for nightcap. I don't wanted to

747
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: come back and talk about slurry. I don't want him

748
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: to come back talk to like it' gonna be all right.

749
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: It's gonna be I think I think gonna be all right.

750
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: Cause your getting body blows. Don't don't getting body blows.

751
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: I'm good, good, I'm good, I'm good.

752
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: My defense, my defense is my offense. I ain't gonna

753
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: get hit.

754
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm like a lot of times when guys win and

755
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: they get a rematch, they're like, well, I don't have

756
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: anything to improve a pun and that they run into

757
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: a problem because you had a draw. Do you can

758
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: you go back and say, you know what, in this

759
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: situation here, I should have did this instead of that,

760
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: and I might have been able to land something. Is

761
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: that how you go back and approach the fight because

762
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: you didn't get to win, and so you're like, well,

763
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 3: I didn't get to win. I didn't lose technically, but

764
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: I didn't win either. And I think of a fighter,

765
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: you know, draws and times that ain't what we do

766
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: it for. We want to be winning. We want to

767
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: be on the top spot. And because you didn't land

768
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: on the top spot, you feel that, you know what,

769
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: go back and watch this fight through twelve rounds. Maybe

770
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: if I pick it up through the first three or

771
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: four rounds, maybe that's a round of two that I win.

772
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: And we don't even have this discussion at the end

773
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: because it looked like they gave you round twelve.

774
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: Had you not won round twelve, he.

775
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 5: Would have wanted to fight, which is sad. Honestly, So

776
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 5: to me, I thought I wanted to fight. Clearly, I

777
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 5: thought I want to close fight. I thought I want

778
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: a very competitive fight. I'm not saying I steamrolled them

779
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 5: or whatever, but to me, I think I want to

780
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: fight now. Granted, ninth round should have been called a knockdown.

781
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: Two judges on the official score cards gave him the

782
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 5: round ten to nine. If that was a knockdown, I

783
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 5: went around ten eight. That's a three point swing. I

784
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 5: would win a unanimous decision, correct. So you gotta take

785
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: all of that into account. It's three ways that. It's

786
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 5: three things that could have happened in that ninth round

787
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 5: alone with that knee, it could have been a ten

788
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: round scored. A knockdown, could have been a disqualification, or

789
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 5: I could have won by TKL.

790
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: So, honestly, when you look.

791
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 5: At that and you say I gotta draw against the

792
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 5: number one spectacle in America, a poundful pound talent and

793
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 5: a guy with a ninety knock our ratio, you look

794
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: at it and like, okay, if you got to draw

795
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 5: more than likely use for us to win that night.

796
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 5: So even though I didn't get to win, I'm not

797
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: a moral victory guy. I'm pissed that I didn't win, honestly, right, exactly,

798
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 5: I'm pissed that I didn't win.

799
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: But I really think that that I should have.

800
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 5: A lot of people think that I should have, and

801
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 5: the rematch is just gonna make it worse for him

802
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 5: because I gotta rip it up. Like you said, I

803
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 5: gotta do something. I gotta do something. I got to

804
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: pick it up somewhere to turn this around and make

805
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: it a victory for me.

806
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: Lamt, you're moving up from super featherweight to lightweight. Were

807
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 3: you afraid that moving up might rob you or some

808
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: of the pot, because that's you know, normally guys that

809
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: move up they lose some of the steam.

810
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: Were you concerned about that? Are you going to stay?

811
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: Are you going to stand super feather or are you

812
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 3: looking to move up to maybe go one thirty five

813
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: one for even higher?

814
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 8: Uh?

815
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: No, One thing that one thirty five gave me is

816
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: a lot more stinging. I ain't okay. Five less pounds

817
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: I had to lose.

818
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 5: So uh so what do you do when you walk

819
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: around at Lamont normally, uh I want to say, especially

820
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 5: especially if I'm in the gymnah No, No, I walk

821
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 5: around like one fifty uh gerin around one fifty one

822
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: forty nine on a good day.

823
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: If I'm on vacation, I don't get no higher than

824
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: fifty five.

825
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: So okay, okay, so you so I think that works.

826
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 3: I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd

827
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: Mayweather because Florida is not a naturally big man. So

828
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: it was easy for him to stay at one forty

829
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: seven because Florida only walking the rocket like what fifty

830
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: five to begin with, So he's doing for six eight weeks,

831
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: he lose five piles.

832
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: That's his sweet spot.

833
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, for and that.

834
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: Was another thing with you.

835
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: It's not like you're walking around one sixty five fifty

836
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: five and you got.

837
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: To strip down thirty five thirty pounds.

838
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: You only having to come down ten, maybe even fifteen

839
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: pounds out of max. So that's a lot, that's not

840
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: that's not that drastic where you see these guys have

841
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: to go through this, this this massive dehydration in order

842
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 3: to make weight, because man, you keep doing that fluctu

843
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: weight in your body.

844
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: Man, it takes something out of you.

845
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: Man, It definitely takes a toll on you, for sure.

846
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: Hey listen, after a fight like this, how much time

847
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 5: do y'all take off, Like I mean before you get

848
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 5: back in and gradually just start building yourself back, not

849
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 5: only in the shape, but just making sure you don't

850
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 5: lose that rhythm and consistency.

851
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: That's tough, man, especially how boxing is today.

852
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: That's more so like a personal So me personally, I

853
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 5: don't like being out the gym too long. I get

854
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 5: I get cussed out by my doctor because he tells

855
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: me to take a break, you know what I'm saying.

856
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 5: So and I understand, because your body need to heal rest.

857
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 5: I've been through an eight week training camp and then

858
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 5: went through a hard twelve round fight, so you know, uh,

859
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 5: you know, gotta get your body together, take some time

860
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 5: off because when you peak, when you peak, and you peak.

861
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: At the right time.

862
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 5: I think I peaked at this alf the time Saturday night,

863
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 5: it's you know, it deplete you. So I get a

864
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 5: little rest. I get a little rest, probably like two weeks.

865
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 5: Then I want to be back in the gym one

866
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: because I probably get you heavy, and I'm like, I

867
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 5: don't feel I don't feel right right, you don't feel

868
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 5: right now, and I'll be bored. I normally be in

869
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 5: the gym, so like what we we live at?

870
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: What state?

871
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: I live in?

872
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: D C.

873
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I make a little trip down there.

874
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: Man, whenever you be back in the gym and you

875
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 5: want to start a sparring, I'm gonna come down there.

876
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: And I got I gotta look.

877
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: I gotta know.

878
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm a bad man, Chad, I don't know.

879
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 5: I know, I know I'm a bad man too. Got

880
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 5: some my teacher called me when a last Well, listen,

881
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 5: I got a look bad for you. Right, we're gonna

882
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 5: eight rounds, right, we're gonna do Yeah, we're gonna do eight.

883
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can, if you can beat me.

884
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: At least four rounds.

885
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: Now, you know Lebron James, he just scored fifty thousand points, right, yeah.

886
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: He said, he sent me the ball.

887
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 5: If you can beat me, if you can win more

888
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 5: rounds than me, I send you this ball he gave

889
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 5: me to put up.

890
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: Dad.

891
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: Right now, set up, you're gonna send that up.

892
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna take that ball right the trophy case, Okay, okay, okay,

893
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: right on top of the.

894
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you.

895
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 5: I'm only using my jab hand on you. Oh man,

896
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 5: you're giving me, you're giving, You're giving it away.

897
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: Nah, I mean, listen, I can. I can take her

898
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: to my door and still win. That's what I do.

899
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 1: I told you they called me. Hell hen, I'm telling

900
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: you you're geting the prize away. Lebron ain't gonna like that.

901
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, you ain't gonna get that. You think I'm

902
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: you think I'm gonna lose to you and lose that

903
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: ball for sure? It is a love.

904
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: Let me let me after this little bit. After the

905
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: tank fight, who would you like to fight out? To

906
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: fight out the tank? Are you gonna stay at are

907
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 3: you gonna go? Are you gonna stay? If you if

908
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: you go back, if you rematch, you beat tank at

909
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: one thirty five? Are you gonna stay at one thirty

910
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: five or slide back down to one thirty or go

911
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: up even to one forty.

912
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: It depends on what's available.

913
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 5: If the champions at thirty five are available, I'm gonna

914
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 5: fight them. I'm gonna unify. Obviously, that's good for my career.

915
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 5: It's like legacy fights. And on top of that they

916
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: big money fights. If they're not if they're not available,

917
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 5: I will go definitely defend my title at thirty and

918
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 5: probably try to unify there because I can make thirty comfortably,

919
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 5: and I feel like I run that division like I

920
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: probably can even go undisputed it they let me.

921
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: That's like, I'm not like Lama being a student of

922
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: the game. I know you heard your dad. You weren't

923
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: around there, but I know your dad has told you

924
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: of whomever in your corner about the fourteen hearns Hagler, Durant,

925
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: Leonard and how they fought each other and all the

926
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: top contenders, and that they fought him. You go back

927
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: to the seventies, you look at the heavyweights. They fought

928
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: Norton fought all Lee, he fought Fraser, he fought for

929
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: He fought Shavers, he fought.

930
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: Our Lee, Nobody Duck.

931
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: Why is it now, Lamont that we have guys and

932
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: they want a cherry pick and don't want to take it.

933
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 3: Seemed like and I love Floyd, but Floyd that fifty

934
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: and oh, because nobody wants to take an ass whipping

935
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: now because now they feel like my legacy is ruined.

936
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: I lost the fight some of the great fighters.

937
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: We don't look at our Lee because he lost three

938
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbick,

939
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: Colarir Holmes. We don't hold that against him. We don't

940
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 3: hold against Leonard. We don't hold against Hagli, we don't

941
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: hold against Hearns. We don't hold against nobody. I don't know,

942
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: and I hate that. I love Floyd and I'm glad

943
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: he's undefeated. But everybody thinks, now, if I be undefeated,

944
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be revered like Floyd.

945
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: And it's not gonna happen.

946
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: It ain't. It ain't.

947
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: Uh.

948
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 5: Floyda's one of a kind of fighter man, kind of

949
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 5: his own. Even if a lot of people do go

950
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 5: undefeated and retired undefeated, it's not gonna be the same.

951
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

952
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 5: And it's not gonna be the same because Floyd put

953
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 5: it in his work, Floyd Floyd fought them guys.

954
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 9: When when he was able to everybody that he fought

955
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 9: them guys, and he earned the right to fight who

956
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 9: he wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the case

957
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 9: may be.

958
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: He that's that's just a once in a lifetime fighter.

959
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

960
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why the guys are not, well, maybe

961
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I do.

962
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you a little scoop. These guys are

963
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 5: worried about the money that they can make. If they

964
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 5: told you if they still have an O on their record,

965
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 5: they think that a blemish would knock down the value

966
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: uh theirn whatever they have in their contract or whatever

967
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 5: they have presented to them, which is you know, crazy

968
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: to me, I think, if you put on a good

969
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 5: enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the

970
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: performances will matters. It's really what matters. So people gonna

971
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 5: pay the scene fight. If you fight the good fights,

972
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 5: that's what that's Yeah, that's that they're gonna pay to

973
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 5: see it. That's why people U numbers used to be

974
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 5: so high, because people are gonna pay.

975
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: They want to see certain fights. They want to see

976
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: them fights.

977
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: Look at Mickey, look at Mickey Warden turo Gotti, that

978
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: was jam Pack law didn't matter. People still pay big

979
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: money to see that because they know they were gonna

980
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: get action for sure. But now guys like you know what, Yeah,

981
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: if I fault Lamont, I can make fifteen mil. But

982
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: if I fight this guy that I know I can whip,

983
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: I can make ten. So Why take the chance for

984
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: extra five when I can get this can over here

985
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: and I can whip him for ten, So hit me

986
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: a couple, I get me five or ten, give me

987
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 3: five to ten D ten million dollar fight.

988
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: Why would I need to take a risk for two

989
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: of those big fights?

990
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 5: No, then do that, But then you got to think

991
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 5: about that, Lama I told on other night. We talked

992
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 5: about this too, Right, Not only do certain people not

993
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 5: want to take risks, but you want to build it

994
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 5: up until you get to the really, really good fights.

995
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: So if you got like you talk about the folk

996
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 5: kings back then, back in the day, right and today's,

997
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 5: if you got the best boxes right, and if all

998
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 5: the best boxes fight each other right now and not

999
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 5: have fight out the fight out the fight, and.

1000
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: Actually you build it so people want.

1001
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 5: To actually actually want to watch, and you can maximize

1002
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 5: your your pay. That's a little different. Think about how

1003
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 5: long before Early and Bud actually fought. Look how long

1004
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 5: it took, Look how many fights they had because they

1005
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 5: was a build up to it. So from that standpoint,

1006
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 5: I kind of get it and understand you want to

1007
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 5: maximize your pay. You also nobody wants to lose, But

1008
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 5: at some point they ain't gonna have no choice but

1009
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 5: to fight each other.

1010
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: You got to be right, But.

1011
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: Thanks about it and Lama you know this. Sugar Ray

1012
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: went to one sixty to play Hadler went up. They

1013
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: then had'd come down. They went to him and the

1014
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: thirty five they went up to cl Sugar Ray was

1015
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: one forty seven, went to one sixty.

1016
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: Packler Herd with one forty seven went to one sixty.

1017
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: You're definitely right about that.

1018
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 5: That's middle Waight and Ray, Ray and Durant started at

1019
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 5: thirty five.

1020
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, one of the best light rights to

1021
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: have a Yeah, a lot.

1022
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: Of guys started, Yes, a lot of those guys started

1023
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: there O Joe thirty thirty five, fort Floyd thirty thirty five,

1024
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: forty forty seven, and for h De la.

1025
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: Hoya at fifty four.

1026
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, a lot of them got yeah

1027
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: and had Pop pacya the novel they pack yas of

1028
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: that that one one o six.

1029
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: He blew through and blew through everything.

1030
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: Division eight, Division Champions.

1031
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not.

1032
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: Gonna see that. Even even when you look at Armstrong,

1033
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: you look at all those guys, nobody's doing this again.

1034
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: Nobody gonna do that. Yeah, I mean, basically you'd have

1035
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: to start and saying you'd have to start in like

1036
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: one forty and go to heavyweight to try to clean

1037
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: try to clean out of everything that that ain't not

1038
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: happening all.

1039
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: Roy wasn't a boy.

1040
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 7: Yeah ten years straight away, Roy.

1041
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: Wait, if Roy had had Roy just stayed there and

1042
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: not script the muscle that he put on to go

1043
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 3: to heavy because I think that took a lot out

1044
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: of it, That took too much out of him. He

1045
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come

1046
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 3: back down or just took his time. Roy won the title,

1047
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: couldn't get nobody else to fight, gave the title look

1048
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: and came back down, and he wasn't the same after

1049
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: Tarboro beat him that one time. He was never the

1050
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: same because he got started getting beat by fighters that Roy.

1051
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: Roy would have marked the flu inside of five rounds

1052
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: with him.

1053
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's next, tank?

1054
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: I mean, excuse me, what's next to all of my

1055
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: what's next after after this tank?

1056
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 2: After this tank? You said you want to fight whoever

1057
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: the big money fighter is, who.

1058
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: Ate Lomo hell Femo hate whoever the champions?

1059
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: At one thirty five right now, Keishan Davis And Yeah, chicken.

1060
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: Okay, good, that's what that's that's who we're gonna be

1061
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 5: looking at after you know what I'm saying, After after

1062
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 5: I be tanked, after I be tanking and rematch.

1063
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: Uh we want you know, if.

1064
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: Them guys ain't available, then we gonna go to thirty

1065
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 5: and defend my one hundred thirty pound championship. So listen,

1066
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 5: out of those three you just named, who would you

1067
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 5: prefer to fight first if you can't get all three,

1068
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 5: If if you had a preference, if I had a preference,

1069
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 5: I don't really got a preference. I want I would.

1070
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 5: I would put a blindfold on the pick whichever one.

1071
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: It don't matter.

1072
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: Whoever, Hey, whoever owned this ass whipping, I won't whip

1073
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: for sure. Half about a fight. I'll tell you what.

1074
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: I tell you what, Lomo, you gonna get it first,

1075
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: So you're gonna get it after I get tanked. When

1076
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: I get tanked, I'm gonna get you at the first

1077
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: of the year. Hey, Core, I'm gonna come see you

1078
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: in July, Keith Sean David, Hey, at the end of

1079
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: the year or twenty seven.

1080
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: I got your I got you ass whipping too.

1081
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: Hey sound good to me?

1082
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: Him?

1083
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: Sound real good.

1084
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: Hey man, I appreciate it. Congratulations, great fight.

1085
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for because

1086
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp and

1087
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: you put the time in to win. It didn't go

1088
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: his way, but who knows what's gonna happen July August

1089
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 3: when the next fight come around. Wish you the best

1090
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: and guess what, come back and join us again when

1091
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 3: the fight happened, and off we'll see what happens after that.

1092
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: Lamar, I appreciate you.

1093
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: Appreciate well, do thank you, man, I appreciate it.

1094
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see in DC. Had no doubt.

1095
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: Give my contact. We'll bring you out for sure.

1096
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: All right, body, cause you need to talk, so I

1097
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: don't want him to Yeah, that's what I want you

1098
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, yeah, I want to hear.

1099
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure I recorded to We have it all

1100
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: what I need to do. All right, all right, all right,

1101
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: appreciate a good.

1102
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: One by you too.

1103
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: Thank y'all.

1104
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: Man, all right, bro Lamar rode Julia. Bad, that's unbelievable.

1105
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 5: Bad.

1106
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 3: It was great talking to Oh Joe, you have your

1107
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: that's that's your thing, box of your things.

1108
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun. That was fun.

1109
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. That was It's always

1110
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: great to get these guys.

1111
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gonna reach out to Roy because

1112
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 3: I want to hear what Roy gotta think on this

1113
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 3: Roy John, I'm gonna here. I'm gonna here row up tomorrow.

1114
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 3: See if I can get Roy to come on and

1115
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: talk about this fight.

1116
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1117
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 5: Hey, matter of fact, that'll be that know, that'd be good.

1118
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 5: You get wrong here Roy to tell you the stories

1119
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 5: about why.

1120
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: We're so smart. Man. You ain't want nothing, Roy, you

1121
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1122
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: No, we come on now.

1123
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: You know boy from Downhill now yeah.

1124
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: I know.

1125
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Roy's to spot when I was in

1126
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: high school. I just to spake with him some time.

1127
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. He from Uh, he from the same place Brooks

1128
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: from mm hmmm.

1129
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: Hey man, boy, he quick than the mother fucker boy. Yes,

1130
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.

1131
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: Oh he from Pensacola.

1132
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1133
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he from deep Brooks and uh. I played with

1134
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: another guy named Omit from Pennsacola too, Emmy Smith from Pensacola. Yeah,

1135
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: image from Pensacola. Yes, yes, that Himmy, that's Roy homeboy,

1136
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 3: Roy Emmitt They homeboy from.

1137
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I ain't know that.

1138
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeahn from Penstacola.

1139
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, boy, I.

1140
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: Just learned something. Yeah yeah, yeah boy.

1141
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: I used to be piece of Royals up from Daies.

1142
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 5: Boy.

1143
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: We gotta get roy on here, man. We told him

1144
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: we got it.

1145
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: We'll get it.

1146
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Kevin Durant and Coach Bud got into it

1147
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: last night. Check this interaction out, Oh Joe. During the

1148
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: time early in the game, Coach Budden holds a grab

1149
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 3: KT's arm in an apparent attempt to pull him in

1150
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 3: for a conversation, but KD pulled his arm away. Then

1151
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: they engaged in a brief animated conversation before party Ways.

1152
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: Kat spoke about it after the game. Let's take a

1153
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: listen to what Katie had to say.

1154
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what usually happens when you don't know the

1155
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 8: dynamics of a relationship.

1156
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: You know, you catch something on.

1157
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 8: TV, you did a quote and now even pushing that

1158
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 8: narrative as if me and Blood don't do that shit

1159
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 8: all the time. Were competitive as two individuals who want

1160
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 8: to see things done the right way, and sometimes my

1161
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 8: way ain't the way that Bud want to do it,

1162
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 8: and vice versa, and he allows me as a player

1163
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 8: on the team, vetter than on the team or voice

1164
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 8: my team. If I if we both didn't care, we

1165
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 8: would never have stuff like that, you know what I'm saying.

1166
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: So, and I'm glad that the win is sweep all

1167
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: that stupid.

1168
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 8: Stuff under the road because they couldn't People couldn't wait,

1169
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 8: even some people with Phoenix ain't here, couldn't wait to

1170
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 8: run with that, you know. And so this is this

1171
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 8: is the reason why the team ain't playing well because

1172
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 8: it's that specific thing. But come on, now, that shows

1173
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 8: that me and Budd really cared about trying to break

1174
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 8: this ship and trying to win basketball game. So if

1175
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 8: he understands one coming from, don't understand exactly where he's

1176
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 8: coming from. This is people on the outside don't know

1177
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 8: the dynamics of the relationship. So you know, in order

1178
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 8: for them to get some attention, they're gonna run with

1179
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 8: stuff like that.

1180
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 3: You heard it, Yes, he says, Hey, sometimes I see

1181
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 3: things one way, but don't see it that way. Times

1182
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 3: Buzz see things one way, I don't see it that way.

1183
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: We have a difference of agree, we have a different opinions,

1184
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 3: And hey, he cares, I care. We trying to get

1185
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 3: this ship righted and and he right. I mean, look,

1186
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: that makes it seem like that's never happened before. I've

1187
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 3: seen coaching the players. They shove each other at all,

1188
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 3: curse all that kind of stuff. It happens. You get

1189
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 3: two anime testosterone driven men that I believe what I'm

1190
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: saying is right. He believes what he's saying is right.

1191
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: Two people can't be right. Maybe hey, two things can

1192
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 3: be true. Maybe you're right and maybe he's right, But

1193
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 3: at that point in time, we don't see it that way.

1194
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: I want you to see my point of view, bro,

1195
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: I need you to see my point of view.

1196
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: Right, But I don't know what happens.

1197
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: But I know KD went crazy in the fourth quarter

1198
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: and they were down twenty three and they won the game.

1199
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: That's what I do know.

1200
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 5: Listen, the funny thing about it with the Suns. Listen,

1201
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 5: when you're losing everything and magnified, Yep, when you're losing

1202
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 5: the way they are, even though they won that specific game,

1203
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 5: everything is magnified. Unless you played organized sports and instruction environment,

1204
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: you'll never understand that dynamic. You'll never understand it that

1205
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 5: goes on all the time, especially when it comes to

1206
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 5: a player of that magnitude, that's great, and you have

1207
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 5: a coach and the coach wants to see you and

1208
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 5: do your best or if you're not playing to your

1209
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 5: full potential, they.

1210
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 1: Gonna get on you just like that.

1211
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 2: Yep, that had been not.

1212
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 5: Just at the at the at the at the elite

1213
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 5: level with NBA players, NFL players.

1214
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: It starts even when you're young.

1215
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 5: The problem that you gotta worry about is when you

1216
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 5: have a coach that cares about you and he stops

1217
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 5: talking to you and he doesn't try to correct you.

1218
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 5: He said he's knock on your head and trying to

1219
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 5: get you to do things the right way. That means

1220
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 5: he doesn't care. So what I see as a former athlete,

1221
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 5: stuff like that happened. It resonates with me because I've

1222
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 5: been in that situation before with Hugh Jackson getting on

1223
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 5: me on the sideline. Of course, because I'm trying my hardest,

1224
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 5: I fire back. No, I'm talking. I talked back a

1225
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 5: little bit. But you know you man, he will. He

1226
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 5: will grab me by the neck. Man, don't play me,

1227
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 5: Yeah not today.

1228
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: You're from Carton, Hey, you don't play food good people,

1229
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: but you good people.

1230
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 2: I like you.

1231
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: But you're right, You're absolutely right. With a lot of times,

1232
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: like you know, and the heat of the battle, you forget. Man, Man,

1233
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: I shouldn't this front of all these people because there's

1234
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: seventy eighty thousand people watching and these cameras everywhere. You

1235
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: forget sometime though you do forget, you, you absolutely forget.

1236
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: I always try to be mindful, you know, A let's

1237
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: get this behind closed door. I'm just gonna give you

1238
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: a look.

1239
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 5: You mean, like that look you gave me and you

1240
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 5: thought I was late on first day like that, Hey hey, hey,

1241
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 5: now that was that?

1242
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: Would like like coaches like, hey, bro, look here, I

1243
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: won't allow you to say anything to me.

1244
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: Mayor Porter didn't say right that.

1245
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: Port ain't never called me no more for she ain't

1246
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: never called me no so ob So now if you

1247
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: think you can call me that, now you know what,

1248
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this uniform off. I'm gonna whoop your

1249
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: ass because I know I ain't gonna be here. But

1250
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: all that, all that, all that stupid you know what.

1251
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: I don't play that mm hmm, now give me that,

1252
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: because no, I don't play like that, O Joe, I don't.

1253
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: So we have a we just had. I had a

1254
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: great understanding. Hey, bro, don't hey, come on now, I

1255
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: ain't your kids. I got kids. You got kids, I

1256
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 3: got kids. You just can't talk to me any kind

1257
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 3: of way. Understand, trust me, tell me what I did wrong.

1258
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make that same mistake twice. But you're

1259
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: not finna call me dumb. You know you stupid? No, No,

1260
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: get that like that.

1261
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: I ain't. I ain't finna hold you.

1262
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: You're always talk about sensity of all you want to

1263
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: But I'm big. I'm huge respect respect.

1264
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: I give it to everybody. I give.

1265
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,959
Speaker 3: I believe every man or woman deserves a certain level

1266
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: of respect. Now, when that level of respect dissipates, it's

1267
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 3: best that you and I go our separate ways. That's okay,

1268
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: we don't look we and then sometimes Joe like we

1269
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: you on the team. You ain't gonna get along with everybody. Yeah, hey,

1270
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 3: you do your thing. I'm gonna do my thing on

1271
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 3: this field.

1272
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: What what what?

1273
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: Hey? When the whistle blow is trying to go out

1274
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: certain ways?

1275
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah about the locker room, aid, like I don't even

1276
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: know you?

1277
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: There it is it is, yeah there, it is all

1278
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 2: this man? You bro, he was a teammate.

1279
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: You not.

1280
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: You not buddy buddy with everybody that's on your team.

1281
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: You buddy buddy with everybody.

1282
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: In your workouts.

1283
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: Y'all go out to lunch and do happy hour, go

1284
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: to each other's crib.

1285
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: No, that's what I mean. Some guys are close like that,

1286
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: O Joe. They are.

1287
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, some guys not. This ain't college where you

1288
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 3: see it. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna pass

1289
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: the guy in the hallway and the going to class

1290
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: or he might be in the same class.

1291
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: Bro.

1292
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys they got families, they got kids,

1293
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: and y'all. You know, we were on different wavelengths, and

1294
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: that's okay. We just try to do the same when

1295
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: we at work. Hopefully we got the same goal, Ojo,

1296
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: to try to win as many game as we possibly

1297
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: can once you go home.

1298
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: Done deal.

1299
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not making too I'm not making too

1300
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 3: much out of it with that KD interaction has happened.

1301
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: Like I said, I've seen coaches, hey, coaching and player. Man,

1302
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 3: I see the college. I've seen basketball player beat the

1303
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: basketball coach. So now we had to go pull him

1304
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: up off it. I ain't oh yo, when I say

1305
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 3: he beat him down. Oh yo, When I say he

1306
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 3: beat him.

1307
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: Down, right, he must have said something slicker.

1308
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: I don't know what he said. And because you know, hey,

1309
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 3: you know, I'm looking at the bathroom. Whether I see

1310
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: him argue I'm right, because I ain't never seen the look.

1311
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: Oh I've seen players and coaches argue in that setting

1312
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: on the football field, on the basket. Okay, that's one thing,

1313
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 3: but bro, we're not We're not in that environment. We're

1314
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 3: not on the football field, We're not on the basketball court.

1315
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: Now you you argue with me like we just two

1316
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: ninjas in the street, right, So I'm like.

1317
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: What that is?

1318
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: I said, May let me go on down there for

1319
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 3: something pop off? So I go down there. I'm just

1320
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: you know, I'm I ain't got nothing to do with me,

1321
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 3: so I really shouldn't be the next thing.

1322
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: I know, whoa who what?

1323
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 8: What?

1324
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 2: Oh?

1325
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 3: Joe, I'd be like, okay, you probably add for him,

1326
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: because first of all, you don't live on campus, but

1327
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: you bring your ass back on campus after practice is

1328
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: over to come back up here in front of this man,

1329
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: you probably was getting what you deserve.

1330
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

1331
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: Where I intervene when he started kicking and putting feet

1332
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: on him, get to get him up off here, and

1333
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: they're like, bro, now look you coach, go ahead on now,

1334
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: cause if I turn this man loose after I done

1335
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 3: got him, apopia, that's on you.

1336
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: That's you.

1337
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: Hey, I call mother, Hey man, manet get coach up

1338
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: out of here. Oh Joe, when I say he whipped it?

1339
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on.

1340
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 5: So if that was a coach that the player was

1341
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 5: part of the team, yes, hold on, was a player

1342
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 5: allowed to remain on the team after that?

1343
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he. I think he ended up leaving

1344
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 3: on his own, but he didn't kick him off. If

1345
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, I think what the coach fought. Okay,

1346
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 3: so he must have been a star player.

1347
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: He was.

1348
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: He wasn't a start player, but he was a good player.

1349
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 3: He was a decent player.

1350
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1351
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: But my thing is, if I'm a coach, here's the thing.

1352
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you let a puppy licky in the mind,

1353
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 3: you better be careful because he's gonna grow up to

1354
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 3: be a dog and he'll bite you.

1355
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1356
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 10: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,

1357
01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 10: hold on. Boy as a good one. Now, why why

1358
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 10: you know I don't. I don't go nowhere without it.

1359
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, if you let it, if you let let

1360
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: a puppy licky in the mouth, he'll grow up and

1361
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 3: bite you when he become a dog.

1362
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 2: See, if you put yourself on that level.

1363
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: See the problem that the coach had is that he

1364
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: put himself on that level to be with the player.

1365
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 3: So the player no longer looked at him as the coach.

1366
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 3: He looked at him as like a calm, like another player.

1367
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: Let a puppy licky in the mouth.

1368
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: And so that's why that's O joe. That's why with

1369
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: kids you stay up here.

1370
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: O joe.

1371
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 3: You don't say, oh, that's my friend. Oh that's my

1372
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: best friend. Me and my daughter, me and my son.

1373
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: We like freek we like best friends. Ain't no way,

1374
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: not no, no, we not. I'll tell your ass up. I'm dead.