WEBVTT - #4 Sext and the City

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<v Speaker 1>Help I Suck Good Dating with Dean Angler and I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio podcast. Hello and thank you for tuning into

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<v Speaker 1>episode four of Help I Suck at Dating. I'm Dean Anglert,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have two very special guests with me in

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<v Speaker 1>studio today. You know where from marriage boot Camp, reality stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Dr v Hi, how are you? Thank you for joining us?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great, thanks for having me, absolutely absolutely. We're also

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<v Speaker 1>joined by one of my great friends in my roommate.

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<v Speaker 1>If you follow me on Instagram, you probably have seen

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<v Speaker 1>his face pop up a few times. Jackson. Hey, what's

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<v Speaker 1>up y'all? Thanks for coming, buddy. I'm so excited. This

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<v Speaker 1>is great. I feel much more comfortable having Jackson here

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<v Speaker 1>me too. I don't know about that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I feel more comfortable. Oh okay, so Dr Vie,

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<v Speaker 1>do you mind introducing yourself a little bit giving us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of backstory on who you are. Hi again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Dr Ving. My full name is Dr Venus Nicolino,

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<v Speaker 1>and Venus is a little strange of a name. I

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<v Speaker 1>think my mother thought that I would be a stripper,

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<v Speaker 1>but when I got the doctor gig, she was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is cool, and I just keep telling her. There's

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<v Speaker 1>still time, There's there's still you never know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know where one's career can go. Um and

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<v Speaker 1>I started on Bravo on a show called l A Shrinks,

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<v Speaker 1>which was so much fun, and I became their resident

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<v Speaker 1>shrink for a few years and um then I went

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<v Speaker 1>on to do other things and I found myself on

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<v Speaker 1>Marriage boot Camp Reality Stars, which is great, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating our eleventh season. I've done six of of of

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<v Speaker 1>those seasons, and we have a spinoff, Family boot Camp,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of fun. So it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>wild ride. It's been fun. So can you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Marriage boot Camp. I'm not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the show, so how does it work? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a marriage bootcap Reality Stars. So we have couples come

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<v Speaker 1>on the show and they live in a house together

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<v Speaker 1>for uh fourteen days, and they decide at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the show whether they want to be together are

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<v Speaker 1>or not. So so our goal, you know, we root

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<v Speaker 1>for the couples, but it's really about choice and your

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<v Speaker 1>ability to make a choice. Is this the person for you?

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not trying to fix that relationship, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>We're that that's that's not where our steaks are. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Our steaks are about is this the person you should

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<v Speaker 1>be with? And we run the couples through a series

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<v Speaker 1>of exercises where they're able to make choice. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, you know, people stopping in the street. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've learned so much from that show. People

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<v Speaker 1>always tell me, you know, there's a great takeaway and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I actually do think it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few shows on television and reality where you do walk

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<v Speaker 1>away with communication skills. You do walk away with a takeaway,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's awesome, you know. So do all these couples

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<v Speaker 1>that you deal with, every one of them is married

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<v Speaker 1>or are their boyfriend girlfriend? You don't know they're there,

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<v Speaker 1>They could be on the verge of divorce. Don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be married, they could be a girlfriend boyfriend, They

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<v Speaker 1>just have to be in a relationship. So from your experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I figure you probably have seen it all. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see reality stars sucking more at dating than

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<v Speaker 1>like a normal person? You know? No, that answer is no.

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<v Speaker 1>I think unconventional people UH need unconventional methods. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really the method in which we choose to help unconventional

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<v Speaker 1>people that that matters. But but in essence, the problems

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<v Speaker 1>are all very similar. And I think that's why people

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<v Speaker 1>love the show because while it's wild and crazy, people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, I can see myself in that person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they can see problems, they can identify exactly exactly. Okay, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so dr View, what is your take? I think we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed this at the top a little bit. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about sex, and yeah about you're to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about sex thing, which I find quite fascinating because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to sex. Just Jackson, any confirmation? Yeah, Jack

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think you know? I cannot confirm the sex. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe a little risk a photo here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's just like a hey buddy, miss you? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that doesn't qualify as a sex for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but if a woman said, hey buddy, miss you, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it all depends on the circumstance, right, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a long distance relationship, long term relationship, I

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<v Speaker 1>could see it being this is so murky. I need

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<v Speaker 1>what a sex really is, Like, I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever sent a pick? Can I say that? Okay? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the rules here? What are the rules keep

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<v Speaker 1>a clean I've never sent a d pick before, you've

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<v Speaker 1>never said a dean pick okay, um, and I've never

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<v Speaker 1>like act do you want to? Not really? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't see what the point of it is, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like I've never asked a girl to send

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<v Speaker 1>me a picture. Okay, But that's picture, that's pictures. That's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what I'm That's what I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>a pictures. I guess sex thing is different. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of like photos, like your photos. But I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>so what would sex thing be? Then? Just like talking

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<v Speaker 1>dirty to each other, which I still don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>So you still don't do that? No, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't think that. What are you scared of?

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<v Speaker 1>What scares you about that? I don't know if, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, and not saying you should be doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just asking questions because that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here to do. I don't know if I'm scared. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think that. I'm a very outwardly sexual person.

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<v Speaker 1>But inwardly you're a wild animal. I almost think that's

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<v Speaker 1>like we're get we were brought up thinking that type

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff is taboo. Where where did you grow up

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado? So, like, I don't know. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that discussing that is I don't know private matter. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Do you are you a sexual person in general?

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<v Speaker 1>Or or or no, Like it's sexting an extension of

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<v Speaker 1>how you feel about sex or or is it something

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<v Speaker 1>different that you have different views on? Well what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think? I'm asking you the question? Don't deflect. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't see what the end game of sex

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<v Speaker 1>thing is like? Is it supposed to make me aroused?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it supposed to just convey interest to the person

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm sexting it too and let them know that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about them like that? I think your roommate Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>needs to come in on on this. You, Jackson, you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy sexting? What do you get from it? So? I

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<v Speaker 1>have sexted before, but also I travel a lot for work,

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<v Speaker 1>and so if I were to be in a long

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<v Speaker 1>distance relationship, it is one way that uh, my partner

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<v Speaker 1>and I have found to stay connected and keep the

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<v Speaker 1>heat and the passion. So what does the typical sex

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<v Speaker 1>look like to you? I mean, give can you pull

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<v Speaker 1>up your phone? Why does the typical X look like,

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<v Speaker 1>what does a typical sex don't be shy? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're here to do. I mean, yeah, yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's hey, I'm in bed, I'm thinking about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely wish you were here right now. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>not sex thing. And then and then I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is and then it you know, maybe from there let

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<v Speaker 1>me just help you. Yeah, so maybe it's something like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to taste you. I want to that sex. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I love to feel you on my body.

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<v Speaker 1>That is I've said, bla blah, can you stroke the pearl?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like okay, okay, So the two if you

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<v Speaker 1>were young, that's what I'm getting at. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>picking up here. You're you know, you're you're young, You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're maybe shy about talking about sex. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think kind of two Dean's point, Um, we were raised

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<v Speaker 1>in this idea that you don't really talk about sex

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<v Speaker 1>as I guess openly and outwardly, as maybe um some

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<v Speaker 1>other people doing so. For me, it's always been something

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a little bit more shy about. And also

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<v Speaker 1>as a guy, I sometimes feel, how do I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>broach this sexual topic without coming across too forward and

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<v Speaker 1>being respectful. And you're bringing up such a good point, Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>because in our culture and in our society, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a healthy narrative around sex. We just don't. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's either the madonna or the whore, or

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<v Speaker 1>he's a stud or who's effing this person, who's effing

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<v Speaker 1>that person, And there's really no real healthy narrative around

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<v Speaker 1>what it means for two people to love each other

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<v Speaker 1>or not and be in a healthy sexual relationship. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think the two of you to be sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of this is interesting because you're you're struggling

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<v Speaker 1>with that, and I think in an American society we

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with that a little bit more because we're fox

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<v Speaker 1>Puritans really like we pretend to be the puritanical society. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Dean is a wild animal behind closed So

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<v Speaker 1>anyway to get I I didn't mean to derail into

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<v Speaker 1>philosophical and and and and and academic so so so

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<v Speaker 1>so Jackson, you so you partake in a healthy sexual

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<v Speaker 1>So you think it's partly like our sexual repression that

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<v Speaker 1>we have as a society, Like what would another culture

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<v Speaker 1>be that has it maybe more healthy do you think

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<v Speaker 1>like europe I do. Uh, you know, Europeans are a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more open about sex. Um, depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>you are. Um, there's you know, in in many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Italy has less sexism than the United States. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that our culture doesn't promote to have

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<v Speaker 1>healthy conversations. And I think, Dean, some of your issues

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<v Speaker 1>around sexting might be You're just part of a culture.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to go out on a limb and

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<v Speaker 1>say that you're pro sexting, you know, pro expression, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm pro expression. I think that sexing is

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<v Speaker 1>just another way to be creative and fun um with

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<v Speaker 1>someone that you love and who loves you back. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do think, just like anything else, um, it can

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<v Speaker 1>cause problems. It can get in the way of actual

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<v Speaker 1>true intimacy because you know, if you have the skill

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<v Speaker 1>of sexting, but maybe in person you're just a little

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<v Speaker 1>too shy. And you know, here, here you built yourself

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<v Speaker 1>up to be this. You know this amazing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to trying to keep this g rated PG rated.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in under promising and over delivering. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel you do that, Dean? Do you feel you you

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<v Speaker 1>under promise and over deliver. I don't know about the

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<v Speaker 1>over delivery part. If you're over delivering, um, do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like look with the d with the dpics, I

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<v Speaker 1>get that. I mean, that's your that's your body. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about you know, having your body be yours

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<v Speaker 1>and just yours. So I understand that. Um. But if

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<v Speaker 1>we're moving into words, which you are, um, you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that you have some other issues around that, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the question is do you want to remain

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<v Speaker 1>that way? Do you like yourself for the way that

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<v Speaker 1>you are, or do you I think that if sexting

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<v Speaker 1>we're like way to improve a relationship, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>that anything is worth exploring, right, So if if by

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<v Speaker 1>adopting sexting as a habit could improve my love life,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think that's something worth considering. I mean, have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever considered that maybe it's a skill that you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have that I think that's sexting and putting

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<v Speaker 1>how you feel into words is a skill, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's just not one that you have. So we did

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<v Speaker 1>the love languages test last week, and my number one

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<v Speaker 1>love language is physical touch, And so maybe I like

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<v Speaker 1>to express myself more physically than I do verbally, just

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<v Speaker 1>a thought. Okay, okay, well all right, DRV, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually got this box and I brought it

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<v Speaker 1>home and Jackson has been using that spongeb body washing,

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<v Speaker 1>fused buffer and he's his skin has been silky. It's honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been glowing lately. Um, what else are you

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<v Speaker 1>get in that box? It looks there's some Himalaan pink salt.

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<v Speaker 1>My other roommate is big at cooking, and you cook

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<v Speaker 1>stick all the time. I think he's been using that

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<v Speaker 1>on the stakes lately, and it's fantastic. So what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do mmates thank you know, they're the best. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they never share any of the food with me.

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<v Speaker 1>But so if you want to experience this fab fit

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<v Speaker 1>Fun box for yourself, all you have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>go to fab fit fun dot com and use my

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<v Speaker 1>code Dean at checkout and you get ten dollars off

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<v Speaker 1>the editor's box and the boxes. But with my code

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<v Speaker 1>d e A N you can get it for and

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<v Speaker 1>each box is a guaranteed value of at least two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. So you're making out like a bandit dr V.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna love it. I can promise you that much. Yes, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So now we're gonna go ahead and jump to the

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<v Speaker 1>phones and take some user calls. I just tweeted out

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<v Speaker 1>what is your stance on sexting? Do you condone it

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<v Speaker 1>or do you dislike it? And let's take some phone calls?

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<v Speaker 1>So who do I have on the phone here? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, page? What do you think about sex thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about it? Um? I would say that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a long distance relationship and it's necessary if

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<v Speaker 1>you're wanting to do that. Okay, So do have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever sent a sex before? Probably in like senior year

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<v Speaker 1>high school around that age. Okay, okay, so you've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of grown out of it. Yeah, because I had a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship that was like six hours away. Oh so that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's so. I have dr V from Marriage boot Camp,

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<v Speaker 1>Reality Stars in the Year page. So sexting your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>alive and you know, sort of like what Jackson was

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<v Speaker 1>expressing earlier. We've gone like two weeks without seeing each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it keeps it alive. I'd say, so, are

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<v Speaker 1>you in a relationship now? Yes? And do you sex now? No?

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<v Speaker 1>We actually live in the same place now, but before

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<v Speaker 1>we were separate, so yes, So you wouldn't like sex

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<v Speaker 1>for in the living room bedroom? What about when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at work or something like it or anything? Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me ask you this. How long have you

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<v Speaker 1>guys been together? A year and a half? Give us

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Oh, we just met and he sent me

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<v Speaker 1>this little gift that said or gift whatever you call it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I like your face and it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went from there. That's pretty sweet chivalry. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still around. I like your face. And what did

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<v Speaker 1>you say back? What do you say back? Oh? Nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>really nothing, And we kind of texted back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>for like two weeks and we met and we started

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<v Speaker 1>dating the day we met. So tell us the sex

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<v Speaker 1>people with people who won't tell me their sex? What

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<v Speaker 1>was the sex? I don't I don't really know. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't really think of specifically. I mean, was it? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the basic one is like what are

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<v Speaker 1>you wearing? Do you find that that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>typical male question. What are you wearing? Yes? And what

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<v Speaker 1>did you tell what you're usually like? What what did

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<v Speaker 1>you say? I hope you said nothing? I'm wearing nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I said, like nothing under my clothes. All right, Paige,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for calling in. We're gonna jump to the

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<v Speaker 1>next call. I love it and good love with the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship commando. Thank you by all Right, who do we

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<v Speaker 1>have on the phone now? Him? My name is Arisa

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<v Speaker 1>and Lisa and Lisa so at Lisa, you're on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone with dr V for Marriage boot Camp reality stars

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<v Speaker 1>in my roommate Jackson? Hello, Hi, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about sex thing? Okay? I called him because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's disgusting? All right? Okay, why why is it so disgusting?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is disgusting about it? Um? I Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think it. It's right, honestly, Like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in the relationship, like if you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with the person for like maybe a year, like

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<v Speaker 1>it can inside anything less than that, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you just met them, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just meet someone, it's a little creepy analyst, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you when you're totally with you. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship now? So you're not in a relationship now.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were to get let's just say you

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<v Speaker 1>met someone and um, are you hed a sexual man? Woman? Straight?

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<v Speaker 1>You're straight? Okay, So so you meet this man, he

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<v Speaker 1>sent you, you exchange phone numbers, he sends you a

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<v Speaker 1>text that that's that's sexy in nature. Let's say it's

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<v Speaker 1>not sextyng but sexy in nature. Like, I love the

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<v Speaker 1>way you look. Your hips are so sexy. You're such

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful woman. Is that disgusting? That's different, that's just flirting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So where's your line? Where's your boundary? This is what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know. Where's your boundary? If they were

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<v Speaker 1>to send me like a kick without it's so true,

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<v Speaker 1>at least you can't say that word. You're on you're

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<v Speaker 1>a pick, so so send you an unsolicited pick of

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<v Speaker 1>his genitals and your dude, no, no, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>get you. Okay, I got you, I got you. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right on at Lisa, Well, thank you for calling

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<v Speaker 1>in O, thank you. You're the best buy, best of

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<v Speaker 1>luck with your sexty endeavors, no picks. Okay, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, we're joined by dr V who you probably

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<v Speaker 1>know her from Marriage boot Camp reality Stars on we TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and what she does is help reality stars help reality

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<v Speaker 1>stars solve their relationship problems on television. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what I do. Dr V. What mistakes do

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<v Speaker 1>you typically see these couples making, um, the typical mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>that most couples make, uh problems in communication. I think

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<v Speaker 1>one that I've been stuck on lately is, you know, people, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>their need to be right outweighs the empathy for their partner.

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<v Speaker 1>And I see that more and more, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's from the social climate that we're living in.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone has a stance and they want to be right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we don't operate in vacuums. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really do believe that some of what we're all feeling

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<v Speaker 1>as a nation enters into how we feel as a

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<v Speaker 1>people and enters into our relationships. So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>how do you advise on that? Well, I think once

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<v Speaker 1>you acknowledge, you can't fix what you don't acknowledge. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times couples don't even realize they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>that to one another, and once you sort of pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out they have a third party sort of just point

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<v Speaker 1>that out, they're like, oh, yeah, I I do do that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the I think some of the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>things is dealing with a hard ass, like a hard head, um,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of those god like all the time, all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, um, and so kind of pounding through that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I take too, you know, I take one

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<v Speaker 1>or both approaches. Either I feel like I have to

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<v Speaker 1>get to that person by being really really soft, um

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<v Speaker 1>and really just pouring empathy and love all over it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or I have to be a hard ass

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<v Speaker 1>and a badass and I have to say things that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe are true that they don't want to hear. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, you know, people aren't strolling through the self

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<v Speaker 1>help section because they want to hear things about themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>They're walking in those actions because they want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>good things about themselves. And so the question really is

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do with information that you don't like

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself? And I think as a culture, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to address that and as well as you know, self

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<v Speaker 1>empowerment as well as bettering ourselves individuals, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do with information you don't like about your DRV? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like reality stars because they're constantly being bombarded

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<v Speaker 1>by h all of these outside voices telling them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like you for this, I don't like you

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Do you feel like reality stars sometimes have

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<v Speaker 1>a stronger wallup? Maybe you know you're bringing up such

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<v Speaker 1>a great question, Jackson, And I'll tell you what I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen is people reality stars who have grown up

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<v Speaker 1>as reality stars, sometimes their sense of self is a

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<v Speaker 1>little soft, and they come into look like like like

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<v Speaker 1>every couple comes into the house as a cup. But

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<v Speaker 1>I really do see their individual journey um And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times, people who have been in the public

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<v Speaker 1>eye forever, um, their sense of self is a little soft.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel that it's my job to help strengthen

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<v Speaker 1>that sense of self. Um that no one can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you who you are, who to love, how to act,

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<v Speaker 1>how to be that you have a boundary between you

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<v Speaker 1>and that social atmosphere that if that makes sense, yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's it's so interesting being on the outside and

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<v Speaker 1>looking in because you know, it seems like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people feel like they have the the right the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to write whatever they want on Dean's wall because

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he doesn't seem like a real person to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but yet he is a real person. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's got to be hard and it's true, and look

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, you know a lot of times it's

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<v Speaker 1>like quit being the bullying online hole that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the guts to be in your real life. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I find a lot on social media, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people looking to lash out and they're looking to be angry,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, look, you woke up bankry, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, you woke up that way. Dean didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do that, Jackson didn't do that, I didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You woke up like that. So so much of what

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<v Speaker 1>we see online is a projection of just how people

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<v Speaker 1>feel about themselves. So so back to the show then,

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit more about you. So you basically

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<v Speaker 1>sit down with like these kind of like group therapy sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like right, Um, you know there there are

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<v Speaker 1>they're exercises um that we and drills that we run

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<v Speaker 1>the couples through. Each couple doesn't UM. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times, you know, there's a lot of resistance to

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<v Speaker 1>doing these drills because they're designed to bring up a

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<v Speaker 1>specific emotion or or they're designed to bring up conflict. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So they can get uh torturous for some of the couples.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you the reality stars who come in,

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<v Speaker 1>couples who come in, they are always shocked. So do

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<v Speaker 1>you advocate a couple of therapy for pretty much any relationship? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't you know. I think I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we've become a society where, you know, we believe that

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<v Speaker 1>therapy is good for everyone, and it actually isn't good

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone. And I'll give you an example, um, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>people who have undergone trauma. A lot of times UM,

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<v Speaker 1>new therapists and counselors and life coaches they want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that trauma. Well, all you're really doing is

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<v Speaker 1>really traumatizing that person. So for certain people, observing yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>observe yourself isn't the thing to do, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>I also think the way we digest mental health UM

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<v Speaker 1>needs to change. It's you know, currently it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's for privileged people. Um, what's that therapy? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's for and and and it isn't. And what's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>about that is that therapy be again, who were privileged

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<v Speaker 1>people by Freud for board, people who had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do to come on the couch and sit and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about their lives. So so it was designed for privileged people.

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<v Speaker 1>And so how we view mental health, how we approach

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<v Speaker 1>mental health and our own ideas about mental health needs

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<v Speaker 1>to really encapsulate, um, the the the disempowered, the disenfranchised.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have to have a community that is

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<v Speaker 1>based on helping helping other people, you know, helping helping

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<v Speaker 1>other people feel supported and loved. So I mean therapies

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<v Speaker 1>and is an act of isolation. You know, you're isolating yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But I feel that our ideas about mental

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<v Speaker 1>health needs to be community based and community oriented. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that. So so earlier you mentioned that on

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<v Speaker 1>the TV show you put these couples through drills. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a drill if you were to give me a drill.

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<v Speaker 1>What would that be, Um, I would put tape over

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth for the entire fourteen days. No, no, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Well what can Dean do at home? What can Dean

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<v Speaker 1>do at home? We think about Jackson and I do

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<v Speaker 1>so we can both improve our day. That's a really

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<v Speaker 1>good thing to think about. You know. So much of

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>what we do is in the moment to catch and

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>in the moment process so so so for example, UM,

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>we create through the art department, a very very real

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>death scene where you get to see your partner laying

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>in a casket or in a car crash, on an ambulance,

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>treacher you and we create that and it's real. It

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>looks really like every time I do it, I'm like,

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>like a home I hugged my husband. I'm like, oh

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>my god, this is awful. So and we create that,

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>And so what ends up happening is the other half

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>of the couples that we decide are not doing that

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>come out into this emergency situation and they see their

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>partner dead and they have to read the last thing

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>they wrote about them, which is usually awful. What a

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>experiential process of learning, I mean, it's intense. So you

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and Jackson are going to go home and Dean, you're

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>going to get into a coffin and you're going to

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>say main things, do you improve your relationship? Do you

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>think that there are things that friends can do to

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>have them improve their dating experiences? Like, say, is there

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>something like Jackson can tut to help me out as

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a friend to be better at dating? Okay, So here's

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the thing, Jan I've I've sat with you just for

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a few minutes now, and um, I'm wondering if you're

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>one of those people that has difficulty taking in negative feedback.

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if you're want to receive a lot of

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>negative feedback, because that doesn't mean you take it in Okay,

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Like, I'm wondering that doesn't

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>mean you you're like, oh, well, I received that feedback

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>from someone I trust. I'm incredibly stubborn, and I think

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>that might be part That's what I'm picking up. But

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>something with the glitter on the face stubborn with with

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>faery esque. For the record, yes I do have a

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>flashtat on my face. And thank you for pointing that.

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>A doctor mean how everyone knows. So I think, um, like,

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>do you feel that you would be open to Jackson

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>giving you feedback. I mean I think that because like

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the title of your show is, like I said, help,

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating? But do you just suck at

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>being human? You know what I mean? I think you'

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>all kind of do though, Like but but but in

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>your process? Like what is it about you as a

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>human as why you suck at dating so much? Are

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you trying to impress the person? Do you feel like

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>you're maybe you don't have good enough boundaries? Do you

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like you played too many games? Like what is it, Dean?

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>What is it? I'm not leaving or til I get answers? Um,

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I've put up a lot of walls in relationships.

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>So you have problems being vulnerable? Um, I think that

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I have moments of vulnerability, but I think overarching, yes,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I probably have difficulty opening up to have difficulty opening

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>up to someone else. So you piled up all these

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>walls and you have I mean, if you can't be vulnerable,

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't trust, and if you can't trust, you can't love.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>So so, so work on that for next week. I'll

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>be back. We'll see how We'll see how you do

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I understand? Oh, Yeah, give me a call. Absolutely see

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>how the homework went. Absolutely, yeah, we'll tell you about

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the re enacting. But but Dean, and in all seriousness,

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>as you said, something very very vulnerable. As you said,

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I have maybe I have trouble being vulnerable, and that

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>is the first step. It's a it's a vulnerable thing

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>to do. So I would love for you to think

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>about you have to write it down, but think about

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>all the things that you're afraid of. And it doesn't

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>even have to be about a relationship, you know what

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, It doesn't even have to be about that,

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>just things that scare you and maybe things that scare

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you about you. Look, I'm forty five and I still

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>have lists of things I'm afraid of, you know, in relationships,

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in relationships with myself, because we're always growing, we're always changing,

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and and if you're not, you're the only thing in

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the universe that doesn't because as you, as we all

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>sit here now, everything is changing around us. So to

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>constantly be on top of who you are and what

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you believe and how you think, you know that that

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>should be fun, right. You shouldn't feel like work. Do

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you believe in astrology? Like Geese I don't think you do.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm the answer right there. Yeah, so you don't think

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like an aries is more compatible with like a Taurus,

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm I feel like people are looking to

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>understand themselves and other people. Um, and I'm all for

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>whatever helps you do that. Why are you dating someone,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Dean who's no. I'm just curious, okay, because I see

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I have some friends who swear by that stuff, and

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a believer in that. What sign are you?

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that the approximate location of the stars

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and planets at the time of your birth have any

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>bearing on who you are as a person. I'm an Aries.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I know what I am. I guess and I can

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.479
<v Speaker 1>identify with some qualities. I only use signs to like

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>huff and puff when I don't like the person. So

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what I That's the only time I ever used

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>a sign. Okay, Well, are you know what am I?

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I am a Pisces, okay, Jackson to you, I'm a

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>capricor opercorn December. That's right. Wow, Yeah, I don't know

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>what any of those all right? All right, Well we're

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna call next week. You are called me next week? Man,

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>this is dr V for Marriage boot Camp Reality Stars.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>You're amazing. Thank you for coming to the office so

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>much for having me, and it was so nice meeting you.

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Jomp ring to keep him out of trouble best, I'll

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>send you pictures of the death scene. That all right, Well,

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you again for coming. Thank you so much. Yeah,

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>we'll call you later on down the line and give

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>you an update. Already already bye bye, Thank you by doc.

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>So the other day I was hanging out and this

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>package showed up at our house and I was like, oh,

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what this is, said hello fresh on it.

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>So you remember I came to you and I said, Dean,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>what is this? Would you tell me? I told you

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that I'm gonna start cooking meals for you. I didn't believe.

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't because one of the things I think I

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>could be a better roommate is if I just made

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you guys mutles every once in a while. Yeah. And

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>so the first meal, I was really surprised. It was

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>actually really super good. What was it? It It was chicken,

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and it was chicken and something vegetables and some vegetables,

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>super fresh, super juicy. Nothing like a good piece of

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>juicy chicken. Right. It was amazing and the portions were perfect, perfect, Yeah,

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was nice also because I felt like

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>it really brought us together try something new. And then

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>afterwards what they also sent you a couple other meals,

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>A couple other meals. I've been eating all of them.

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm loving every single one of them. I definitely have

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a tendency to overeat, Like whenever I go to get

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Chinese food, I get like fourteen helpings. And so what's

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>great about Hello Fresh is they rash and everything very well,

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>so you're never over eating, but you're still not going hungry. Uh.

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And it was pretty healthy too, super healthy, and that's

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely something that you and I have discussed quite a bit.

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Are Dios starts tomorrow tomorrow, but it actually starts today

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>with Hello Fresh because it's freaking good. So if you

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>go to Hello fresh dot com and use my code

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Ungler thirty, you get thirty dollars off, and each meal

0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>is only like ten dollars, so you're gonna get three

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>dollars off. On top of that, you're gonna be saving

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of money eating super well, and you're

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>just gonna be all around a happier and healthier person.

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>So go to Hello Fresh dot com and use Ungler

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>thirty at checkout. That's U n G l e R

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Tree zero at checkout. Okay. So, so joined by one

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of my closest friends, Jackson, lived with him for over

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a year. We met, I think here in Los Angeles

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>on the flag football team we won the championship. Was saying, Um,

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>so I brought him in. It helps because it makes

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>me a little bit more comfortable. He's obviously a very

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>smart person too, so I always value his insight, um,

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 1>except for when he says something stupid and listened to it. Um.

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>And so I thought, you know who else, who better

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>than than Jackson, one of my closest friends, to come

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>in and tell me what he's observed in my dating

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 1>and you know, maybe what I could be doing better.

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Um So, Jackson, maybe do you want to maybe introduce

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself real quick? Yeah, like Dean said, my name is Jackson.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.240
<v Speaker 1>It's I'm really glad you invited me on here today

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>because it's been a wild ride watching you through all

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of it, from knowing you before the show to then

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>seeing you on it, and then going on to Paradise

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and then now being back in the real world. UM,

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm still pretty much the same person though,

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>and that and that's what I think has been awesome

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>is you have been very true to yourself and who

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you are. UM. I think you've had to navigate some

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>really interesting things. Uh. You know, the what we were

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>at we were at ed sharing concert and uh, we

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.360
<v Speaker 1>were we were down on the court and I felt

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like maybe it was the Beatles and everybody was like,

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>oh Dean, and hundreds of girls flocked and surrounded us,

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was crazy, but that was an

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting experience. It was pretty crazy. But you know, I

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>felt like you've stayed again, pretty true to who you are. Now.

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that's been interesting living with you

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>is you're somebody who I think you try to come across, uh,

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like you aren't as in depth of a person as

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you actually are. How's that? So? Oftentimes, Dean, you like

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>to laugh about things, and you like to you like

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>to smile and get your way out of, you know,

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>having tough conversations. But one of the things that I

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people don't see about you is

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the nice stuff that you do and the thoughtful stuff

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that you do. UM. You know that maybe people don't see.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>So a good example is, you know, I'll be gone

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>for a work trip and you'll I'll get a text

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>for me that's like, hey, buddy, how you doing and

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and those are the types of things that I think

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>people don't see all the time, and and that his

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>stayed consistent from again before the show and then even

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>until now. So it's been a fun ride. It's definitely

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>goes both ways too, because I remember, like, I mean,

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you do a lot of great friendly things for me

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>as well, and that's great. I mean, I think that's

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the basis of any strong friendship. But let's talk about

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>dating a little bit, because you have kind of had

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the the the you watch me date before the show. Um,

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you watched obviously date on the show a little bit. Um,

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 1>So what do you kind of see that I'm doing

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that you think I could improve upon? So I think

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Dr V hit it right on the head. So I

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>experience you as somebody who is uh, not as vulnerable

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>probably as some people, as the people that you're in

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>these relationships with would probably like, um, I don't necessarily

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>see you expressing uh exactly how you feel to people

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>from the outside. As a roommate I mean, those walls

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>are pretty thin. They're pretty thin. I don't hear you

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>saying maybe, as I don't hear those in depth conversations maybe,

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm right up against the wall. I've heard,

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I've heard some of your in depth conversations. I guess

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I could open up a little bit more. Yeah, I

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>mean is that something that are you? Do you feel

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>like that's something you need to work on? I think that, Yeah.

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that all of us are a little slow

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and hesitant to open up to people, right, Yeah, how quickly?

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>How quickly into talking to someone or dating someone do

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you begin telling them your story? Like you know, I mean,

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>obviously you like tell bits and pieces about yourself like

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>fragments throughout the whole dating experience. But they're obviously like

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 1>certain nuggets of information that maybe cause you to feel vulnerable, right,

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean everyone's got those, right, So, like, how how

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>long the relationship do you begin trusting someone to open

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>up about that kind of stuff? For me, it takes

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>quite a while, probably, I don't know, six or seven

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>months before I really feel like, Okay, I'm going to

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 1>open up with this person. Um And and with dating

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and friendship, I think it's a very similar thing. I mean, Dean,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I really new your full story until

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.479
<v Speaker 1>us living together for quite some time. Um. And that's

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>something where I mean, do you feel like you know

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>my full story? Um? I know, we've discussed it quite

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a bit. Here's my situation or my feeling on that is.

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I I think that I hold those stories with very

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>high value, and so it's like by sharing it, so

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 1>like if I were to share it so frequently with

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 1>someone that I'm you know, just meeting or just talking to,

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like devaluing that part of my life a little.

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe not, maybe I'm talking to myself

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>in circles. But it's like the more you share, like

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you're over sharing and it's kind of like taking away.

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Is it that you think that it loses value? Or

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>are you afraid to be vulnerable and get close to

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.919
<v Speaker 1>those people? I mean probably a little bit of both.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying like it loses value as a story,

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>but like my personal value of it is like a

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit like it's weird now because going on a

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 1>TV show, obviously I talked to it like everyone that

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>watched about my story, and it was something I never

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>really discussed with anyone beforehand, So it was like going

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 1>from you know, zero people to however many people kind

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of being familiar with it. And yeah, I think I

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>think that it's it takes someone very special to be

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>able to open up to, right, And I don't want to,

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess, open up like the deepest parts of my

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>life to someone that I'm not invested in. Do you

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>feel do you feel like you have a fear that

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>if you, you know, maybe you share this story with

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>them and then that person is going to leave? I

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>mean maybe that isn't part of Yeah, there's I mean

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a little bit of fear to that.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that it would take a pretty crappy person

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to leave you when you kind of like pour your

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>heart out to them, right yeah, yeah, But isn't that

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of scary? I mean I think I sometimes have

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that fear of while I'm about to be really vulnerable,

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>open up, share this story and then maybe it's not

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna work out, and then you know, I've invested this

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>time in this important part of me with this person.

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 1>There is a certain fear I think too, especially within

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>our friend group. I think that there are a lot

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of very strong, like familial units, right, and so like

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>opening up to someone about how my family is like dysfunctional,

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it kind of I could see it being scary for

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 1>someone else that has a very close family connection. Right.

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 1>So my last girlfriend before I wanted the show, she's

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.919
<v Speaker 1>incredibly close with her parents, um, and her brother. They're

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>all there, you know, a big, happy family. And I

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>think that people often want to replicate those types of situations,

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and by being introduced to a situation that maybe isn't

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the most cohesive, it kind of gives, uh, like signs

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of warning or something like that. Right, Yeah, I get that. Yeah,

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>coming from a family that has experienced divorce on my sign, uh,

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that is always something that I am hesitant to share

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning because it's scary. Maybe this is a

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>warning sign that I don't know what I'm doing. Um,

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>do you kind of feel like you have any of

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>those fears? Maybe not necessarily with the divorce part, but

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, with that feeling of well, and I think

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned this even actually during the filming of The

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Bachelorette is I don't want my current family situation to

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 1>be a reflection of what I want my family to

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>be moving forward, and so maybe I like kind of

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>sugarcoat things and don't open up because I have this

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>idea of what I want my future to look like

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.240
<v Speaker 1>in it doesn't really involve much of my past. And

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess obviously we're all shaped and molded by the

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 1>experiences and that that um things that we go through

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>as children and obviously like has young adults. But I

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>think that we're always trying to like better ourselves, right

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.399
<v Speaker 1>and provide a better future for ourselves. And so I'm maybe,

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm thinking ahead instead of trying to

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>look behind. And I think we're both pretty headstrong people

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and that we feel like, hey, we are gonna, you know,

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>dictate how our lives are going to end up, and

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 1>so we don't want, you know, again that the past

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>to to have any um barns on what we're gonna do. Yeah,

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I got that, Yeah, I agree. Alright. So while you're

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0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>including this one, don't forget to go in and check

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.480
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0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 1>And then there's also Almost Famous with Ben and Ashley I,

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>two of my other favorite people from the entire franchise.

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>They've got some juicy stuff they're talking about every single week. I,

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 1>for one m a subscriber. I love listening to them

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's always fun to hear their take on everything.

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>So one of my favorite things is taking emails from

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>listeners because it's a direct line to hear kind of

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>some of the stories that you're involved with and some

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>of the problems that you're having as well. It's great

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to know that I'm not alone in my foibles throughout

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>this whole relationship world that we're all trying to navigate through.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>So Mark, who you guys have met before, UM, is

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>going to read us a couple of the emails that

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>we got. And by the way, it's I saw at

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>dating at iHeart media dot com. This is from Kita.

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Dear Dean, So I suck at dating, and I think

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it might be because I'm too ambitious. I'm twenty five,

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I have a master's degree, have had an almost three

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>year career, and I'm in my second career pursuit. I

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>play sports and have lots of hobbies and goals, so

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I have plenty of ambition, but it seems like whenever

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that ambition starts peeking through, they get really distant. For example,

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I try to be honest about how busy my schedule

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>is and how much ambition I have, but so many

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 1>guys get turned off when they expect me to drop

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 1>everything to hang out with them, and I say, my

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>schedule is pretty full, but we could advance. I always

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>offer a time the following week that would work for me,

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>But so often the guys throw out the line like, well,

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>if it was important, you would make time for it, Dean.

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>These are guys that literally just met, throwing me shade

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>for not dropping out of school or work to hang

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>out with them. In my opinion, it was important to them.

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>They'd realize how precious my time is and be sensitive

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 1>enough to be okay with needing to schedule a little

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>ahead of time. Help. Well, I think that if any

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>guy is telling you, if it's important enough for to

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you, you you should make time for it, just stop talking

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:15.919
<v Speaker 1>to them, right Well, you know, I wonder who these

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>guys are that you're that you're meeting. Ultimately, I think

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got to find somebody who matches you on the

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>same level, and somebody who respects that ambition, and somebody

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 1>who is probably just as busy and so understands what

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 1>it takes to to navigate that. And secondly, Keita keep

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>doing you because master's degree, all these things. You're killing

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it girl. Any of these guys should be lucky to

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>be hanging out with you. I think that whenever I

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.479
<v Speaker 1>try to make plans with someone and they say, let's

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>do it next week at this time, it's kind of

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a little off putting because I think that we're in

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>such a we're I mean, this is gonna get kind

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>of stupid for a second, but we're in a time

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>right now where we get things so quickly, Like we

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>want something, we get it right away. And so for

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you to be telling these guys who can pretty much

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:00.919
<v Speaker 1>go on and access anything they want at anytime, it's

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>like you're basically not allowing them to have what they

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>want as quickly as they want it, which is good.

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that someone should be able to do that.

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that independence is incredibly sexy. Um, Dean, do

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you think that she should just drop everything for these

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>guys whenever they say let's meet this week? I think

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>she should know. No, what do you think? I don't

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 1>think so. I don't think so either. Yeah, you keep

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>doing you, You'll find the right guy. I promise This

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.399
<v Speaker 1>is from Michelle. Hi Dean, I suck at dating. I'm

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the worst. I'm someone who's guarded in her feelings. Mainly

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>whenever I like someone, they have a hard time knowing

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>because I'm actually pretty rude to them. That being said,

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I also go for the bad for me guys and

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're emotionally unavailable. The guys that are right for

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>me I have a hard time deciding on. I don't

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 1>know why I'm the worst. I'm a hopeless romantic. I

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>used to be a Disney princess. Fairy tales are my issues.

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>All I want if the casually dated person get to

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>know them and see if it can build. Potentially, Where

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>do I go to meet a man and not a boy.

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want a ghost. I want someone who communicates,

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's also driven in life. Yeah, well, so I

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>think that Jackson has taken a pretty cool approach. He

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>has been doing a lot of interesting things. Last week

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>he went to Last week Jackson went to it was

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 1>like a taco cooking class or something, and you weren't

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>going specifically to look to like find a woman, but

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a very heavily female dominated. I think you

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>made some friends there, right, Like it's cool to be

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 1>able to go to things like that. Yeah, so I

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I definitely was in not necessarily looking for anything or anybody,

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>but I wanted a new experience here in l A.

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I went to this cooking class and it

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>was all about trying new foods, and there were people

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>there who were also in this same mindset of I

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>want to try new things, and that led to finding

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>cool people who are ambitious and who are maybe not

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>necessarily just looking to go out to the bars all

0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the time and drink. So maybe that more mature area.

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>You gotta look someplace new, Maybe look someplace new. I

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 1>think that going to the bars with your friends is great.

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that if you're looking for guys at bars,

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that's probably not the best spot to be looking for them,

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna find those types of guys that are

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>going out every Friday Saturday night getting drunk and just

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>being obnoxious. And that's probably why. And that might be

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>where the bad for me guys, bad for me guy

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the emotionally unavailable ones because they're probably young and just

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>want a party, which is nothing wrong with that. It's

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 1>just you've got to maybe just change maybe where you're

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>looking for them. Yeah, that's my take on it. This

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is this one's kind of deep, But Dean, I think

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:37.439
<v Speaker 1>there are parts of this you can probably relate to. Hey, Dean,

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.839
<v Speaker 1>this is Sarah. I'm a big fan of your from

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise. Although it was painful

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 1>to watch you put yourself in that situation, I don't

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>think anyone should judge you because that is in a

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>normal dating scene. My problem with dating is that I

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.280
<v Speaker 1>have no problem getting a guy interested, but I struggle

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>opening up to guys and therefore reach a point in

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the relationship where I self sabotage. I find something about

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 1>the person I don't like, I make them not like me,

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>or I put pressure on it too fast. I know

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I sabotage relationships and I have trouble opening up, but

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I still can't fix it. My mom also passed away

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 1>when I was eleven, and I have a fear of

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:14.280
<v Speaker 1>losing someone again. My dad has been the worst male

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>role model and that and never put me first, and

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm terrified of being with a man anything like him.

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you have some great advice for me, and you

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.880
<v Speaker 1>have better luck and your dating experiences as well. Sarah.

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>You know it's weird because this email that Sarah just

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>sent in Dina actually really sounds kind of a lot

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:35.319
<v Speaker 1>like your experience. So okay, we'll get into a little

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>bit background story of the filming of the Batchette because

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 1>again we it all comes back down to this. I

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.879
<v Speaker 1>think that very first home or the very first one

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>on one date that I had with Rachel, when I

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>opened up about losing my mother. It was difficult, but

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>there was a an I t M and in the

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>moment interview that I was that we were filming before

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<v Speaker 1>the dinner portion of the date, I think, and I

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<v Speaker 1>broke down and like I cried a lot before the

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<v Speaker 1>dinner in the interview, and I think what the producer

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<v Speaker 1>made me realize. He was like he was saying, you're

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<v Speaker 1>scared to get attached to someone because you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to lose someone that you care about again. And he

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<v Speaker 1>made me think about he put in perspective. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you could go back and change any of the

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<v Speaker 1>memories that you have with the person that you loved

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<v Speaker 1>my mother, would you go back and get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>those memories and answer obviously is no, because you love her.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved her um and all of the good times,

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as it was dealing with the loss of her,

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<v Speaker 1>the good memories that I had were still overshadowing and

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<v Speaker 1>outshining the the the ultimate loss of her. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I could be reflected into relationships of if

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<v Speaker 1>you can love someone wholeheartedly with the risk of losing them,

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<v Speaker 1>and but the fact is you're you're going to create

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<v Speaker 1>good memories from it, right and be in love and

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<v Speaker 1>find someone. Yeah, you know, it was kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>We were up at the filming for your hometown and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember meeting you at the bar before you went

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<v Speaker 1>to your parents to your to your dad's, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember you being pretty visibly nervous about what that experience

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be like, because you from from the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like you were nervous that Rachel was going

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<v Speaker 1>to see that and automatically say, yeah, say I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be with Dean because of what his family

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<v Speaker 1>is like. And here's the thing, I would never say

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<v Speaker 1>that my father is a poor role model, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's my father. I love him. We have disagreements, we

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily get along, but he's still my father, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm proud of the person that I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>obviously still learning a lot, but I mean I have

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<v Speaker 1>sent him to think for a lot of who I am. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So even though your father is maybe not the best

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<v Speaker 1>role model, you still have to appreciate the person that

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<v Speaker 1>you are now. And and it's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>Fervor method, right, like love by um separation. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly how to say it, but like in my

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<v Speaker 1>actually try to try to make this point to me too,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, you should be grateful about the uh the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of love I showed you as a child, because

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>it shaped you into the person that you are now.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's I mean, it sucked. I've got really upset

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<v Speaker 1>when he told me that. I was like, are you

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.479
<v Speaker 1>kidding me? You just told me that? But like in

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>in hindsight, like it's kind of true. I remember saying

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<v Speaker 1>I always wanted to form myself into the opposite person

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<v Speaker 1>that he is. Right, So it's kind of like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, addition by subtraction. Well, it's about how we

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<v Speaker 1>uh see these challenges and see these negative things that

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<v Speaker 1>happen and can you spin it into a positive can

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 1>you learn from and then can you you know, take

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the negative qualities, consider to take the negative qualities

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 1>about you know, the people in her life and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>turn it into Okay, I want to look for these

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<v Speaker 1>positive qualities now. So to Sarah's point, the self sabotage,

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<v Speaker 1>the unwillingness to open up. I mean it's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to to try and give advice on that because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still struggling with it so mightily. Yeah, and so

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like I can say what I think I should be doing,

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and that could maybe look reflect onto you, Sarah. But again,

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't remember what I'm doing, so well,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you gonna how are you gonna try and

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<v Speaker 1>get better at that? I think that I've started to

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 1>open up to people a lot more specifically in dating.

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting now opening up is a little bit

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:18.799
<v Speaker 1>different because people are more aware of my story and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have to, I guess, talk about as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I would otherwise to fill in to talk

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>about it. I mean, yeah, every once in a while,

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>like all, like share stories from my childhood when I

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.319
<v Speaker 1>normally would never do that. Um, Like, I'm opening up

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:35.280
<v Speaker 1>bits and pieces to my past that I normally wouldn't otherwise,

0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 1>so too, I guess Sarah's point and maybe to help

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<v Speaker 1>her out just like slowly chip away at it. I mean,

0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to happen overnight. It's just a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a working, working progress. Maybe start with something small to

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<v Speaker 1>share and then kind of go from there. Yeah, and

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>it's funny too. I think we talked to We discussed

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it last week a little bit, but that one of

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>my reluctancies to open up is because I just don't

0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 1>want to bore people and sharing like little stories of

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 1>when you were ten years old. I mean, it's just

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of boring sometimes times. But I think that when

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you're sharing it with someone that you like, if it's

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend or if it's a friend, all it does

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>is strengthened the bond between the two of you guys. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well that'll just about do it for episode

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<v Speaker 1>four of Help I Suck At Dating? I want to

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<v Speaker 1>give one more big thank you to my roommate Jackson

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 1>for being here. It was my pleasure buddy dr V

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 1>who is no longer in studio, but she was great.

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<v Speaker 1>So next week's topic is do you Suck at Dating?

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<v Speaker 1>If you only text the other person? What do you think, Jack?

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I am a big advocate of calling. I love calling people.

0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely becoming like a lost art form. So I

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.319
<v Speaker 1>like texting. I'm I'm a big texter, but I have

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 1>been getting much better with and whenever my phone rings,

0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm always always like I don't want to answer this,

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>but aren't you kind of excited though? And like you

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>see a girl calling you not just a text? Yeah,

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I think like if it's like a late at night

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and you just want to have a conversation, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. I've been facetiming a lot lately, so I'm

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.359
<v Speaker 1>getting better at the whole conversation over the phone. And

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<v Speaker 1>I personally think that you do kind of suck at

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<v Speaker 1>dating if you only a text, right, Yeah, I agree.

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a lot easier to say things in a text,

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<v Speaker 1>I think than it is over the phone when they

0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>can hear your voice and they can well you do

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 1>have a great voice thought all the time. Alright, So

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<v Speaker 1>next week we're going to talk about that a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more. Do you suck at dating if you only

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<v Speaker 1>want to text the other person? Email your thoughts too?

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<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating at i heeart media dot com

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 1>about this topic, that's I suck at Dating at i

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>heeart media dot com. Do you suck at dating if

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 1>you only want to text the other person again. That'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it. For episode four of Help I Suck at Dating,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Dean Aungler, and maybe next week I'll suck a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit less