WEBVTT - Draft Show: Leasing or Buying? 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:10.200 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:14.000 room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.560 the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Fresco, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:24.200 Dallas Cowboys like CD Lamb and now your hosts Brian 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:32.800 brought us David Hellman, Bucky Brooks and Kyle Yeoman's It's 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.960 the Tuesday edition of the Draft Show here on Dallas 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.040 Cowboys dot Com, presented by Miller Litas. We are fifty 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:44.199 eight days away from the NFL Draft. A countdown is 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.839 under sixty and Brian, I'm sure under sixty is right 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.360 when it really starts heating up. It's already been heated up. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.200 But how about the intensity and the feel right now 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.760 for all these scouts in these front offices, because it's 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.760 starting to feel real. You're within two months of draft 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.600 day and things are really starting to kind of pan out. Yeah, 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.280 it is, And guys, thanks for having me back. I've 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.760 never hated technology more than I did last week. Yeah, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.800 I mean technology for an old, crusty guy is not good. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.680 I don't recommend it for anybody. I do recommend like 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.320 how to get tied use those tied pins. If you 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.800 got some of that Saint Elmo's cocktail sauce on your shirt. 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.880 You know we missed that this week too, But yeah, 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.400 we're getting close. I mean when you said the number 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.760 and now you start to think about okay, setting boards, 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.560 pro days, all those things are kind of starting to 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.960 ramp up here. It's a really it's a great time 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:43.479 to be in the scouting world. And Bucky, I mean, 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.800 like Brian just said, no combine, no saying Elmo sauce. Unfortunately, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.400 like we normally like to try and treat ourselves to 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:55.040 in Indianapolis, but whenever it gets around this time, you 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.080 usually have the combine in your notes already, but there's 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.320 still so much more of the information gathering that's still 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.960 yet to be done. Yeah, it's a challenge that I 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.160 can't even imagine trying to navigate if you're a scalt 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.360 because you don't have to combine. So what you don't 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.360 have is a level playing field when it comes to 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.400 being able to separate all the measurables, Like, yes, we 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.360 can do the height, weight, hand size, arm length in 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.200 those things, but the forty times are all different because 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.720 they run on different surfaces at different locations with different timers. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.200 You're not able to necessarily look at prospect A and 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.480 Prospect B back to back when they're going through the 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.120 same positional drills. And so you talk about beauty being 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.919 in the eye of the beholder this year more than 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.560 any other year, Like everyone will see these prospects differently 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.920 and it could make for a very interesting draft. How 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:48.200 do you feel like that relates specifically to the front 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.720 office of the Cowboys, Dave, Because I feel like whenever 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.960 it comes to the different surfaces and the informational gathering, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:58.120 you don't necessarily have that, Like Bucky said that even 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.120 playing surface, but the Cowboys have their own thought processes 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.480 whenever it comes to the evening playing surface of the 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:32.799 bigger schools and the smaller schools. Continue on, Dave, Yeah, 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.680 I think we are having some I think we are 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.360 having some technical difficulties. So Dave ye brought us Yeah, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.680 go for it. Yeah, I mean my experience working with 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.280 the front office, and I really like what Bucky's talking about. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.320 I like what Dave's talking about too, because what happens is, man, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.160 these scouts, a lot of them have been a home 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.160 all year. I mean they're watching film and all that. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.320 We're gonna start getting some pro days we're gonna see 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.200 the scouting community once again get out and being about 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.960 and I think this is really the combine. To me 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.240 was always about the medical stuff and the interview stuff, 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.080 and so you know, I was I was super happy 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.000 to have all that information. But man, going out and 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.400 getting your own hand times, you know, working with somebody 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.080 from the Carolina Panthers or the Arizona Cardinals and kind 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.600 of you know, making sure you had all the information 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.919 for your team, that was really exciting to me. And 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.920 I can imagine there's a lot of scouts right now 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.880 that are they're happy that they got some timing dates 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.200 and they're happy that they hey, whether it's zoom meetings 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.880 or whatever, you know, they're happy to be able to 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.240 talk about players and stuff with their colleagues and then 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.080 put together boards. Yeah, it's a great challenge, but as 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.280 we've talked about on this show, a ton scouts are 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:53.039 very resilient. They figure out ways to operate and make 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.080 it all work. And Bucky's right, the beauty in the 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.880 eye of the beholder never more so true than what 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.120 we're about to experience. It's here coming up this spring, 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.680 you know, Brian, I think what is important coming off 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.320 of that is the new craze where you're having the 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.440 sports facilities have their own combine. Last weekend, we have 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.839 exos have a bunch of their players and prospects go 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.320 through their own personal pro day. We're gonna have some 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.000 of these others pop up around the country. And I 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.720 don't know how that information is going to get into 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.120 the hands of evaluators, but we can believe that the 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.760 videos and the times and those things will get there 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.760 because scals are already getting these videos from trainers and 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.640 the like showing the progress of some of these players 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.839 that we didn't even see in twenty twenty. Yeah, I 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.320 think what's really important, guys and Bucky, you brought up 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:47.680 the exos and stuff facilities in Florida, California, Texas. You 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.440 know there's other ones around the country. Michael Johnson has them. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.840 There's all these What you're gonna need have to happen 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.040 is there's gonna be some have to be some guys, 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.720 whether you trust a guy like me, a Mark Dominic, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.599 somebody out there, other scouts that are no longer, maybe 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.359 some scouts are in the media world. And are you 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.800 know Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky yourself, maybe you go to a 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.240 facility and these people hire you on to run drills. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.760 Be a timer. You know, if I'm sitting in a room, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.480 an NFL draft room, and someone says, Bucky Brooks got 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.760 this time for me, I'm gonna believe Bucky Brooks time. 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.520 I'm gonna take that as gospel because I know that 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.440 Bucky Brooks mark dominant. Brian Broadus, Guys like that are 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.440 going to have attention to detail to make sure it's 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.040 done the right way, because you know how important it 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:40.000 is to have the right hightweight speed going in and 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.520 putting those up on those tags up on those boards. Brian, 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.200 you've been with this Cowboy's front office and you've you've 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.240 seen kind of the cohesiveness that they have as a 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.159 scouting department. Do you feel like they're in a good 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.760 position for a draft like this specifically, because I mean, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.680 like you said, you need to have kind of that communication, 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.159 You need to have that trust, You need to have 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.080 that network that allows you to be confident, especially whenever 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.080 you have a crazy year with so many variables like 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.160 we do this year. Yeah, man, Bucky will tell you 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.720 how important relationships are at schools. You know, I kind 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.000 of laugh about Yeah, you don't always want to talk 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.480 to the football operations guy. You want to talk to 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.640 the guy who is the trainer. You want to talk 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.840 to the strength guy. You want to talk to the 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.360 equipment man. You know, those are the things that we're 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.880 going to lose here. But hopefully you could go back 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.000 and call those guys and gals and visit with them 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.320 and kind of get that background information that you need. Yet, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:41.440 the Cowboys have a veteran group of scouts. Some organizations 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.520 don't have that. Some of these organizations have new general managers, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.440 so it's going to take a little bit of a 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.320 time for them to adjust. I have a feeling you're 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.040 going to see some of these new general managers take 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:57.080 what information they get and then make their own decisions. 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.000 It might not be a group thing, whereas the Cowboys, 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.400 it will be a group team because you have a 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.600 veteran group that's worked with each other. That makes me 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.440 feel a little bit better, especially with some of the 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.280 big time decisions coming up with the Cowboys this offseason. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.680 And Brian, you've said it previously. I know Dave has 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.600 mentioned it before, but that March night deadline for Dak 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.160 Prescott is coming up pretty quickly here over the next 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.720 eight days. I mean, we're just over a week away 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.760 from that tag deadline. Is it's time for this front 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.200 office to start looking at a quarterback, Dave? I mean, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.080 is this where you start kind of peeking out and 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.440 seeing what might be available or what you would have 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:40.120 to do to find a Dak replacement at that potentially 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.520 false Just so I have this right, while I have 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.360 difficulties with technical difficulties, you throw a bunch of softballs 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.559 to these guys, and then when I get back, just 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.120 in time for you to have me fire the quarterback. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.160 Is that yeah, pretty much doing Yeah, hey they did. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.360 They did enough filling while you were gone. So now 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.800 now it's your well Kyle, Hey, Kyle, Kyle, I are 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.160 you a steak dinner man? Thanks for giving. I mean 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.960 that the easing off the webcraw. The easy answer to 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.240 that question is like the I mean, the Cowboys should 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.120 be doing that anyway, like you should. I mean, no good, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:19.720 no good. NFL front office shouldn't even if, like even 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.480 if all logic says that you don't need it or 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.839 it's not important. That's just not how this process is 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.640 supposed to work. You're supposed to turn over every stone, 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.920 look at every possible player. So I'm confident the Cowboys 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.360 are doing their due diligence. If you remember last year, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.080 they made a lot of waves this time last year 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.960 by interviewing Jalen Hurts, and that was, you know, back 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.240 when it looked even we were even more sure than 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.120 that Dak was going to get a long term deal 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:47.960 than we probably are right now, and they were still 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.320 looking at quarterbacks. So I think they're doing their due diligence. 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.960 Me personally, if I'm if I'm Jerry and Stephen Jones, 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.640 I don't feel like I need to seriously have those 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:03.240 conversations until it gets a little bit closer. Certainly once 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.240 the tag deadline passes, once you get into draft month, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.440 you know, April, when you're doing these visits with these players. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.040 But yeah, if the tag deadline passes without a deal, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.240 I would probably you know, I keep calling them thirty visits. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.960 Obviously they're not going to actually get to have visitors, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.880 but these zoom calls that they do, I'd probably throw 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.080 a couple quarterbacks on that list if I were them 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:27.959 and Dak doesn't have a deal by the time all 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:34.480 that starts, right, Yeah, you know what, every day that 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.960 passes by that you know, you talked about the deadline meet. Personally, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.120 I believe I've come to the realization now that Dak 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.040 is going to play on the tag, and I don't 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.080 think the Cowboys are going to address the quarterback situation 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:54.880 until twenty two months. So I think what's gonna I 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:59.040 think what's gonna happen is we're in an unusual situation 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:03.280 in NFL now where Hall of Fame quarterbacks are being 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:07.480 talked about being able to trade for. You know, when 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.640 Bucky and I first started doing this, you would never 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.200 give up on your quarterback. You just wouldn't do it. 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.760 I mean, I remember, I'd still have a job. If 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.439 the early two thousand Cowboys didn't have to evaluate baseball 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:25.000 players for quarterbacks, I would have called John Snyder and said, hey, listen, John, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:29.360 you don't like Russell Wilson. What do you want for him? Oh? Hey, well, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.280 you know, Houston, what do you want for your guy? 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.600 This is unprecedented times right now, and I do feel 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.840 like the Cowboys have so many things going on with 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.080 their roster play with Dak on the tag, figure things 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.880 out in twenty twenty two. You've got to address you 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.720 can't let this quarterback position hold you hostage where you're like, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:51.760 I'm having to move up, I'm having to go get this, 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.800 I'm having to go do that. You need to try 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.400 and fix your team right now while you're in that 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.440 tin hole and take all those picks, and then in 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.920 twenty twenty two, worry about the situation in you can 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.560 tag him again, you can try and compete in sign 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.199 him with somebody else. But I just don't think you 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.720 let it hold you hostage right now with the situation, 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.960 I've changed my attitude about that this team needs a 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.160 lot of repair and thinking about quarterback at ten, I 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:19.960 don't think repair. How are you going to tag him 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:27.240 next year? Well, here, really, here's a coup of things 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.160 that we have to here's the couple of things that 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.560 we have to think about. The TV deals are on 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.040 the horizon. When the TV money comes in, it's going 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.600 to change the composition of the salary cap. Maybe not 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.880 in twenty twenty two, but maybe in twenty twenty three. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.040 And I think there's a shift in the way that 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.880 we're viewing the quarterback. I think the way we're viewing 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.360 the quarterback is more like college teams view their quarterbacks like, look, 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.320 we may have a five star recruit and we love 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.080 him and all these things, but they command so much 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.680 money at the position that if you don't feel like 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.640 the guy that you have is really a top five player, 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.480 I think you're always looking for that because in the 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.400 mind of the evaluators, you're competing against the Kansid, the 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.000 Chiefs and Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes is kind of like 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.720 the image of cam My quarterback in a shootout beat 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.080 Pat Mahomes. And if you don't feel confident that you 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.080 have a guy that can do that, I think you're 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.079 always searching for the guy that can give you a 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:22.720 chance to win that shootout versus him. So you don't 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.600 I mean, guys, I flipped on this. I do five 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.640 hours or radio a day and we talk about it 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.680 every single day, and I flipped on, Oh, you gotta 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.040 get it done. Oh you gotta get a quarterback, Oh 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.400 you got to And then I start to think, I've 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.840 never been in a situation like we are today with 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.400 these quarterbacks and the way that people talk about it. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.959 Marcus Mariota, Uh, you know, Jameis Winston, guys that were 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.760 taking very high Look what just happened with the Rams. 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.520 Look what just happened with Philadelphia. People are eating huge 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.239 amounts of cap just to move on from a quarterback. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:02.560 You know there's availability. When Russell Wilson says, hey, Dallas 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.560 is a team I'd like to go play for. What 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.600 my quarterback's not signed? Oh oh, you know that kind 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.719 of thing. So you know, this is a different landscape 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.319 we play in. Right now, Let's just let's be let's 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:25.240 let's be let's be very clear. Let's let's be real clear. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.480 Does he want to sign with you? That's a question 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.080 you have to ask you Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:37.040 getting traded. It's a different animal than Carson Wentz or 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.800 Jared Goff. Carson Wentz sucks. Jared Goff kind of sucks 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.480 like he's you don't know, Johnny. I'm just saying, let's 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.360 let's see him do it. Let's see him actually trade 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.480 one of the three best quarterbacks in the league. Because 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.320 that's a different animal than trading guys that you were 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.640 at signing. Because that ain't fact. The fact that people 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.960 are even talking about it should take it tells me 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.960 Russell Wilson wants the Seahawks to draft him an offensive 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.880 line and he's trying to scare him into doing it. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.840 That's what it tells me. Well, that's that's that's a 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:09.040 different thing. But there's there's where there's smoke, there's fire. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.160 And I think what's happening is you have two different 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.240 things that play. You have this quarterback environment movement where 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.440 quarterbacks are trying to flex and have more say, and 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.200 I think you have a pushback because we have always 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.040 basically treated the quarterback position by pinning those guys in 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.880 bubble rap. We never talked about him, we didn't criticize, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.880 and we never brought in players to compete with them 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.560 because the quarterbacks were too fragile and they would fall apart. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.440 And I think now what you're seeing their disposable commodities. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.720 And people are saying, if if you're going to command 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.880 all of this money and your performance isn't up to part, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.600 we will move off from you, or we're not going 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.760 to set up for mediocrity. We'll go looking for the 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.760 next one. And so it's a changing thing because we've 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.840 always talked about the quarterback in terms of a fifteen 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.920 year player at the position for your team, and I 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:56.960 don't think teams are looking at that. It's a five 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:58.880 year playing to get the quarterback up and running and 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.560 if he's not playing, get a super bull level we're 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.800 looking for. All I know is Jason Light, Jason Light, 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.280 and Tampa saved his job by going to get a 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:10.360 Hall of Fame quarterback. He didn't have one though, Like 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.400 he went, he went, but he didn't have a good 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:19.040 one already in town. He needed a quarterback and that's 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.400 he had the first He had the first overall. Say 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.520 he had had a high school custry learner in a 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.600 first overall pick there though, Yeah, yeah, I mean I 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.600 didn't work out. It's kind of like what Buck he's saying. 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.040 I think it's exactly what Bucky just talked about. It's 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.120 that five year plan and if year quarterback doesn't work out, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.560 then you move on. But that's what's confusing about the 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:41.160 Cowboys situations because he was a low capital draft pick 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.520 in the fourth round and it's not like he hasn't 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.400 worked out. It's just hasn't been elite. I guess you 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.720 could say, but he's been borderline elite. Yeah, I don't, 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.520 I don't know. I think what happened the Cowboys misplayed it. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.640 I won't say Dak hasn't played it. I had enough 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.800 level to get the money. But when the Cowboys kept 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.160 refusing to give him, Jimmy Garoppolo money and Derek car 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.400 money because it appeared to be oh my god, that's 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.960 too much, or Jared Goff and Carson Wentz money. Oh 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:10.320 that's too much. Hey, the quarterback prices never go down, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.119 they only go up. And so what you have to 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.960 do is you have to bite the bullet and listen 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.280 to the Twitter verse come at you for paying the 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.480 guys so much. But in three hut into sixty five days, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.080 that contract that was once number one margin is now 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.080 the fourth or fifth contract at the position, and you 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.000 just have to understand that's what it is. And I 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.560 completely agree with that, Bucky, and that's what I always 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.000 say it. You know, Jimmy Garoppolo is nowhere close to 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.959 the top of the market and it's only been like 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.720 two years since he said it, And that's what I've said. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.040 But the thing is, I feel like people lose sight 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.440 of that because we're in this holding pattern because of COVID. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.439 But to your point, the CAP's going to explode in 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.960 the next year or two anyway, when these deals, when 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.800 these deals start coming in, it's going to be back 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.920 to business as usual. And even at forty million, as 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.960 ridiculous as that will be a bargain, there's gonna be 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.440 a bara. I believe what I'm hearing from Fleecevest over here. 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.360 The guy, the guy that, the guy that taught me 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.600 that the draft is about four and five years is like, 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.040 screw it will go year to year. Let's just run this. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.520 Let's just run this thing. Like do you think the Cowboys? 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.600 Do you think the Cowboys are realistically? I'm obviously anything 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.040 can happen. Crazy stuff happens in this league all the time. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.760 But like, yes, Dave, I do think what am I 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.399 about to say? You were about to ask me if 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.760 they're really willing to walk? No, I'm about to ask 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.320 you if they are really a legitimate Super Bowl contender. 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:40.960 In twenty twenty, lost track of the year. Tampa Bay 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.720 was seven and five. At one point they got on 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.440 a run. They got on a run that there they 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.440 started playing great on That was eight. That was a 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.959 really good roster that added a whole bunch of talent. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:57.200 They were seven and five and got beat by Kansas City. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.320 They were kind of like, well, is this really the 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.320 path we want to go? Is? You know? Come on, man, 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.600 I'm just telling you it is you. It is a 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.119 new world out there, and that's why Brian's trying to 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.399 get to the lake to boil crawfish every weekend, because 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.520 it doesn't compute to the old man brain. You know, 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.800 I understand. I didn't. I don't like it, but you 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.320 know what, that's the way the game is. So you're 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.000 and I'm I'm out of it. I'm not. You are 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.040 comfortable if you are comfortable tagging Dak. I'm cooking. I'm 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:32.720 comfortable cooking crawl be both tag Dak. I'm not really, 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:37.360 I'm not really. Come on, but they don't. They don't really, 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.959 they don't do anything depressing. We can talk about that 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:44.479 out there. But you're so, I mean, yes, Bran, I know, 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.400 I know the rules say that you can tag Dak 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.320 next year, but it's it's almost impossible from a true 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.240 financial standpoint, Like you gotta pay him like one hundred 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.120 and forty percent of the salary he's already making. Yeah, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:59.960 So so he goes up. It goes up to fit 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:04.240 four million dollars over three year payout. It would be 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.480 a one hundred and twenty two million. But here, here's 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.040 what the league is going to David, and I think 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.400 Brian and I like it's been tough for us because, 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.760 like we always thought about it, in three and five 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.600 year increments, right, you want to build your team up 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.959 to the point in three to five years. We're in 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.680 the mix. We have like a couple of year run 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.600 or whatever, and what the general managers are doing today 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.680 it is about this year and this year only. I'll 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.440 push off the cap and I'll deal with the cabin 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.720 next year and I'll rebuild the team. And there's a 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.679 fantasy football element to building the team. Even when we 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.600 look at the Kanna City Chiefs and only bring them 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.640 up is because they signed Patrick Mahomes. They put Travis 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.600 Kelsey and Tyreek Hill and their main guys on deals 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.679 at all expire at the same time, and it's like 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.479 a two or three year window out from now, and 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.480 I think teams are looking at that like, hey man, 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.359 I can't worry about what I'm doing in five years. 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.000 I need to make sure that I have my job. 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:58.800 And the only way I can keep my job is 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:00.480 to make sure that the product that I put out 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.000 this year as a winning product, and we look like 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.520 we're close enough to go and next year, I'll do 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.640 it next year and next year. That's the only way 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.280 you can do it. And so it makes it where 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.720 in the draft I need right now prospects. I don't 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.080 need projects. I need guys that I can put in 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.400 the lineup right away. I don't have time to develop 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.280 and the rest of the roster. I need to put 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:21.359 it around the quarterback and figure out how we can 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.120 get it going to win right now. I never thought 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.879 a guy from North Carolina could be that smart, you know, 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:32.320 with the way I'm just but he need it without seriously. 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:38.200 He captured he captured all the veteran scouts feelings right 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.920 now it is it's it's not about it's about really, 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:45.800