1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports. What's going on? 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: Everybody scrutiny to the nth degree. We will get to that. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 3: We are broadcasting live from the tirat dot com studios. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: Tirack dot com will help get you there an unmatched selection, fast, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 3: recommended installers. Tirack dot com the way tire buying should be. 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, fellas. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: I hope we are all rested, or at least coffeed. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: You guys been coffee guys before we get to Wemby. 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm over here being completely under the microscope. You're a 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: coffee guy, Jared, big time, huge, sounds like water, it's 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: like oxygen. 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 4: I'm almost positive that if you if you cut open 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 4: a vein, it would be more coffee than blood. Really 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 4: on most days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's uh. I'm 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: not proud of it, but I drink way more coffee 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: than probably I should. 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you went through the whole water craze where 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: you were up to what like one fifty in ounces? Yeah, 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: I was drink top of coffee. I was drinking so well. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: I you know, I took, I gave. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: That's kind of the thing I like pumped the brakes 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: on the coffee. For a while, I was thinking like 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: maybe I'm not hydrating enough. So I started drinking water, 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 4: and then my body had this really confusing reactions all 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 4: the water. It was just like, dude, yeah we're done 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 4: with water, You're just all coffee, dog. And so I 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: switched right back and then everything went back to normal. So, yeah, 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: I think I've changed my chemistry. Yeah, I'm I'm mostly 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: coffee at this point. 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 5: Water's key, and I'm doing the intermittent fasting. I've been 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 5: doing it now for over a month, and I drink 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 5: a lot of water, like insane amounts. 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: Like we're getting close to one hundred ounces here. 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I don't keep track. It just my 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 5: cup is full the whole day. Like I just I 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 5: just kept exactly well because I can't eat. So it's 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: like when I'm hungry, I have to drink and I 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 5: have like I have the little thing that you put 40 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 5: in the you know, the little flavored water. 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: It's called meo. I don't want to make like an avatise. 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you know, vitamins and stuff, And so 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 5: I spritched that in there and. 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure there's some brilliant transition from water 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: and coffee to wembin Yama. 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 5: Well, I'll say I'll get a skinny as Victor because 47 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: he looked pretty wiry last night. 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that did look wiry. 49 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: It was his summer League debut for the Spurs last night. 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: Not great, not great, two for thirteen from the field, 51 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: scored nine points, got post arised. There was a lob 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: dunk on his head from Kai Jones of the the 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: Hornets there and here's what it boils down to. Let's 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: reminded me of Old School. You guys have seen the 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: movie Old School, right? Oh yeah, it reminds me of 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: when Will Ferrell said this as it relates to wem Binyama, we. 57 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: Can't have anyone freak out out there. Okay, you've got 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: a key bark apologer. It's like there are so many 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: people freaking out. 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: Remember the photo shoot, shoot around and he missed a 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: bunch of jumpers and people are just crushing him. It's 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: a photo shoot, and so anything that wem bin Yama 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: does is gonna get a huge reaction. This was his 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: first Summer League appearance, so it's like, don't freak out 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: and lose your composure and make more out of it 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: than there is to make. He's not going to be 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: a finished product in game one. This doesn't even qualify 68 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: as regular season game one. This is Summer League game one. 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: It's not going to be a finished product. So all 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: I caution is, don't go over the top saying something 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: so outlandish when you'd be better off pumping the brakes 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: and just taking a breath. 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, listen. I give a lot of grace to 74 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: rookies in all sports. I remember how it felt to 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: be a rookie in the NFL, and it's not easy, man, 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: And I was a fourth round draft pick. I can't 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: even imagine what it feels to be the first overall book. 78 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: You know, you walk into a brand new city, you're 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: working with complete strangers, you don't even know where the 80 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: bathrooms are in the facility yet, and you're expected to 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: operate like you've been there for the past ten years, 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: and everybody you know trusts you as a professional, even 83 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: though you know the only job you've held in your 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: entire life is cutting sandwiches at a deli that pays 85 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: you off the books. When you were you know, between 86 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: the ages of sixteen and twenty one, Like, I mean, 87 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: you're still a kid. I mean, and Victor wembin Yama 88 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: is even younger than I was when he became a rookie. 89 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: I was twenty two. He's still a teenager, for crying 90 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: out loud. So this to me, anybody who is going 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: to look at a stat line in Vegas during his 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 4: first scrimmage like you got, I mean, you gotta pump 93 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: the brakes, got you gotta realize that that first of all, 94 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: talent is a spectrum, right, and it's it's not a 95 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 4: static thing. Like talent improves sometimes, it regresses, sometimes it 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 4: surges forward in a great leap when you know, you 97 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 4: unlock something, when something finally becomes routine to you. This 98 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: guy's been to like three countries I countless cities over 99 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 4: the past three weeks or three months for that matter, 100 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: as he's been shuttled around in the pre draft process. 101 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: Like let's give him some time to get his legs. 102 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: Oh and by the way, like three days ago he 103 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: was he was accused of having somebody in his security 104 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 4: detail slapping an American pop singing icon. So like, let's 105 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: let's give the kid a little slack here. 106 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 5: The Britney Spears thing is pretty funny. It was almost 107 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 5: a flop by Brittany and it. 108 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 3: Was it was there, Matt, It's unbelievable. Yeah, you gotta, 109 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: you got it's a DMC thing. You gotta absolutely check 110 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: out the video. It let's just leave it at this. 111 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 5: The video makes it like way overblown, like it really 112 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 5: isn't a big deal. But the press and the publicity 113 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 5: and the the fame and the fortune and the attention 114 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 5: and the distractions and all of those things eventually they 115 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 5: add up. And and I'm not gonna say that Victor 116 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 5: is going to be a bus based off of last night. 117 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: That's the furthest thing from from my thoughts. But I 118 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: definitely think he needs to get into the weight room 119 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: a little bit. I definitely think he needs to bulk up, 120 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: and there needs to be some growing up and then 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 5: there's going to be growing pains along the way. He 122 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 5: is not going to step on the floor day one 123 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 5: again with the spurs and be Lebron James. I don't 124 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 5: think his body type is that, and I think he 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 5: has a little bit of evolution that needs to take place, 126 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 5: and that'll that'll happen naturally again. 127 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: As Richet, he's nineteen years old. 128 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 5: It's his body and his game is not a finished product. 129 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: But based off of what I've I saw last night, 130 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: I don't. 131 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Think he's going to win Rookie of the Year. I 132 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: honestly don't. 133 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: And maybe and maybe my, my, my thoughts will change 134 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 5: on that, But I think a Rookie of the Year 135 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 5: needs to come in with a little more because there's 136 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 5: some guys in this draft that are finished products and 137 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: their men and they're older, more tenured, have played in 138 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: more NBA type atmospheres. Scout Henderson being the main guy 139 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: in the G League doing what he did last year, 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: So I think the first impression matters, and last night's 141 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 5: first impression wasn't great. I think there's obviously improvement. I'm 142 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 5: not judging or grading based off of last night. 143 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: But if you're. 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 5: Looking at the NBA Rookie of the Year odd you 145 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: see minus two hundred for Victor Webberiniana, which implies a 146 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: sixty seven percent chance that he's going to win that award. 147 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: I think that percentage needs to be drastically decreased. 148 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: Well, as far as the Britney video goes, I can't 149 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: wait to you watch it. I'm watching it now, and 150 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: it was like the new flopping rule in the like 151 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: she kind of flopped a little like it was innocuous. 152 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: Does he get the one free throw and possess? Is 153 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: that what's going on here? Because she said she tapped 154 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: him on the shoulder. She's no, we're close to the shoulder. 155 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: I think she I think what happened was she went 156 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 5: in to tap and the guard kind of hit her 157 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 5: hand away, and I think she kind of hit herself 158 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 5: with her hand like it was very it was very innocent. 159 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: In my opinion. 160 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like Britney got embarrassed because 161 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: she like put herself out there. She wanted she wanted 162 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: to do something cute, take herself fee with the seven 163 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 4: foot new guy in the NBA. And I have no 164 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: idea why she would run up behind a security detail 165 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: to do such a thing. But you know, especially as 166 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: as big of a celebrity as she is, she knows 167 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: the deal. Maybe she thought she would be like instantly recognized. 168 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: Either way, Yeah, she kind of got belted because it's 169 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: one of those things where if you're a security guard 170 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: and something or someone comes running up out of the corner, 171 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: of your eye. You sort of just you know, swing 172 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: your arm to protect your player or your VIP, And yeah, 173 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 4: I agree with you. It looks like in the video 174 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: like her hand was going to reach out to tap 175 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: Victor women Yama and then she like kind of almost 176 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 4: like punched herself in the face. 177 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: And that's such a weird video. 178 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 5: And I'm sure she doesn't like her fans running up 179 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 5: to her and hitting her like it just it very 180 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: little awareness on her part, I think, based off of 181 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: the situation. 182 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: Well, and she said that also. It was actually a 183 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: good point before I saw the video. She was like, 184 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: there are groups of people around me all the time, 185 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: and my security detail doesn't just go around backhanding all 186 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: these fans that are a little over aggressive. That's a 187 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: great point, it is, But the video is it's not. 188 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: It's nice. 189 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: There's not much meat on the bone there. 190 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know that the officials who Victor. 191 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 5: Took more handage in the game than he did from Britain. 192 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 5: The video right there. 193 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: All right, coming up, We're brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 194 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy 195 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: discount by combining your motorcycle RV, Boat ATV and more. 196 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: All your protection in one place, Bundle and save at 197 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: Progressive dot com. Coming up next, we're going to get 198 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: to the list of scrutiny. Okay, we want to look 199 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: at the NBA of the NFL. Who is the most 200 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: scrutinized athlete, not necessarily the most criticized or the most 201 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: you know, popular, the most scrutinized. Every move they make 202 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: is talked about. Is rehash? Is wembin Yama number one 203 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: already in the NBA. That's something that we got to 204 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: talk about. We've got Rich Orenberger, the Penn State All American. 205 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. 206 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: That's on the way. What does your list of scrutiny 207 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: hierarchy look like as far as hoops and football? 208 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: We will do that next. 209 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. 210 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 211 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 212 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 213 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 6: listen live. 214 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 7: Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. 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Progressive makes bundling 227 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by combining 228 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more all your protection 229 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: in one place. Bundle and save at Progressive dot Com. Okay, 230 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: as far as the list of scrutiny here, when Binyama 231 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 3: had his summer league debut, it is just being dissected, 232 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: looked at from all land goals. We're projecting what we 233 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: think the future is gonna be, anticipating what it is. 234 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: It's a summer league debut. 235 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: And so it just gets me thinking, is he the 236 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: most scrutinized NBA player already? Now here's how I think 237 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: of it, Fellas, I think in terms of of off 238 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: the court, it's Lebron. Everything Lebron does is scrutinized, the 239 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: tweets he butts out, the comments he makes. If he's 240 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 3: walking into the arena reading a book, is he really 241 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: reading it or not? You know how it off the court, 242 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: it's Lebron on the court, though I think it's wem 243 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 3: Benyama call me prisoner of the moment. We don't dissect 244 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: Lebron's games like this. We don't dissect another player's games 245 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 3: to this magnitude because we haven't had a star or 246 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: a player I should say right now be as hyped 247 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: up as wem beIN Yama since Lebron, so every little 248 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: thing he does is going to be completely under the microscope. 249 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't think it is a knee jerk reaction to 250 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 3: say he is the most scrutinized NBA player already. 251 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: Would you guys agree with that? 252 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't disagree with what you said at all. 253 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: In fact, I think that as a culture, as a 254 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 4: sports watching and sports interested country, I think I think 255 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: it's odd how how much we fall prey and victim 256 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: to the headlines like we know that there is a chance. 257 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say it's an equal chance because it's not. 258 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 4: But there's there's a chance that whmen Yama is not 259 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: all that he's cracked up to be in the league. 260 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: Like sometimes players really fail to rise to their you know, 261 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 4: their potential ultimately, or there's something about the gameplay in 262 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: the NBA that you know that that really just they 263 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: never they never catch up to you know, the college 264 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: game came easier to them, the you know, international game 265 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: in the case of whenmen Yama came easier to them, 266 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: and once they get to the NBA, for whatever reason, 267 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: they just they just never mature into the player they 268 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: were always supposed to be per that expectations. Yeah, I mean, 269 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: you're right. There was a lot of fanfare around Lebron James, 270 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: but when Lebron James debuted at his Summer League. During 271 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: his first Summer League game, you could get tickets for 272 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: five bucks. Yesterday, I think on air, Dan Bayer was 273 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: looking this up for us. Yesterday, those tickets were going 274 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: for two hundred and seventy dollars for single tickets on 275 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: the secondhand market. I mean, women Yam is one of 276 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: the most hyped prospects we've ever seen in NBA history, 277 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: And there are some smart analytical basketball minds that are 278 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: losing themselves in all this because there is a chance 279 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: this doesn't work out. I'm not saying it won't. I'm 280 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: not saying it won't, and I'm certainly not jumping to 281 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: any conclusions or I'm not making any bold, you know, 282 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: accusations about what the rest of his career is going 283 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: to be like, because that would be I mean, pure speculator. 284 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: After watching him in one summer league game, This guy's 285 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: head's probably still swimming just from what this week's look 286 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: like with Britney Spears for crying out loud. So yeah, 287 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: so I think he is probably the most scrutinized basketball 288 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: player right now. Now that'll cool off something, but right 289 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: now I do agree with you. 290 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, first impressions matter. 291 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 5: That's That's the only thing that I keep drawing myself 292 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 5: back to here. It's the first game, That's why we're 293 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 5: so excited, and it's overhyped. My guess is he won't 294 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 5: play that much in summer League. Frankly, maybe he'll play 295 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 5: in a few more games, but I don't think he's 296 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 5: gonna play in the full the full duration. I don't 297 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: think he's gonna play a full allotment of minutes. I 298 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 5: think they just want to get his feet wet a 299 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 5: little bit. Here's the differences between and and I do 300 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 5: think a little bit of the prisoner of the moment, Brian, 301 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: because the difference is here between Victor and Lebron James 302 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 5: are pretty stark. 303 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Lebron James is American. 304 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: You know, he came up through the American high school system, 305 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 5: played on ESPN Big Time high school games. He was 306 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 5: kind of dumb just right here, right now. 307 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 3: We're not talking about Lebron's rookie season right here, right now. No, 308 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: I was the most scrutinized in the NBA. 309 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's a different world in two thousand 310 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 5: and what is it two thousand and two than it 311 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 5: is in twenty twenty three, Like we scrutinize a lot 312 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: more now than we did back then. And granted to 313 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 5: be fair, I was I was seventeen years old back then, 314 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 5: so I'm a different person. That was twenty twenty two 315 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 5: years ago. So I'm a very different person now. I 316 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 5: perceive the world very differently. Now I'm a professional in 317 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 5: the media, space. I was in high school back then. 318 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 5: Lebron and I are kind of the same age as 319 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 5: a year older than me, So I just I don't 320 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 5: have the same view of the world now than I 321 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: did back then. But my guess is, no social media 322 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 5: know all of this other stuff that we're that we 323 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 5: kind of, you know, rope into the discussion of grading 324 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 5: someone's athletic prowess. They're not on display as much back 325 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: then as they were as they are now. So we 326 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: have more access to Victor, I think, than we had 327 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 5: to Lebron back then. 328 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: But let's be honest. 329 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 5: Lebron was literally dubbed as the Chosen One, which is 330 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 5: a biblical term. 331 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: And I know Victor's been put on that pedestal. 332 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 5: But I do think the comparisons are similar, and I 333 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 5: think it's impossible to compare the eras in terms of 334 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 5: the technological generation we live in now compared to twenty 335 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 5: five years ago when Lebron was coming up through the ranks. 336 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: But my guess is it's on the same level. I 337 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: think it's on the same level. 338 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 5: I don't think Victor is getting hyped more than Lebron 339 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 5: James was coming out of high school. 340 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: But that doesn't matter. That's the thing that you guys 341 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 3: are missing. I'm not comparing rookie seasons who was more scrutinized. 342 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm comparing who is the most scrutinized now. If it's 343 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: not wim Bin Yama, who is it? Do we look 344 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: at Lebron the first game that rolls around? Are we 345 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: going to look at it the same way we just 346 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: did with the Summer League game? And Lebron from the 347 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: field he was only you know, five for for nineteen, 348 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: Like what's up with this? And what about that? 349 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: And what? 350 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: No, nobody is as dissected as when Ben Yama right now, 351 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: no one, He is the most scrutinized NBA player Yeah today, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 352 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 3: the whole point. Yes today, who is more scrutinized? Nobody 353 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 3: more than when Well, there's no one else playing right 354 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: now except for the Summer League guys. Who else are 355 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: we gonna sae? 356 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: Well? And also like we we all know Katie, we 357 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 4: all know. 358 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: Exact Lebron, like we we those are finished products. Yeah, 359 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: like we. 360 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 4: Know what these guys are at the NBA level, Nobody 361 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: is like panicked over, you know, a summertime storyline outside 362 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 4: of something you know significant, uh, you know, a health 363 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 4: related thing, a legal related thing with one of these 364 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 4: established pros. So yeah, I agree with you today. It 365 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: is when Minyama. In fact, you could make the argument 366 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: in the sports world across the planet. It's it's arguable 367 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: that that Victor Weh Minyama is the most scrutinized player 368 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: on the planet to day. Now, Look, he's a big deal. 369 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: I mean this guy, like you said, Jared, I mean, 370 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: this guy is is maybe a higher scrutinize or has 371 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 4: a higher level of scrutiny on him than the chosen one. Yeah, 372 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: I mean that's that is nuts. 373 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: Become fair. Frankly, no, it's never fair. 374 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: Look again, it's hard being a rookie. 375 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: It is really hard. 376 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you're the last pick in the 377 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 4: NFL or NBA draft, or if you're the first overall 378 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: pick in the NFL or NBA draft, or MLB draft 379 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: or NHL draft. Well, it doesn't matter what sport, what league. 380 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: It's your first day on the job. Like think about 381 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: for any of you listening, what your first day on 382 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: the job feels like. I mean, you have no. 383 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 3: Idea what you're doing, and you're kind of twenty thousand 384 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: people watching it too. Yeah, well and millions at home, million, 385 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: millions and millions across the world. 386 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 4: You're just sort of faking it. Like that's what it 387 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 4: looked like to me. You know what it looked like 388 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: last night watching it looked like he was faking it. 389 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: It looked like a guy who's like, yeah, no, totally, 390 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 4: I could get these photep for you. And then you know, 391 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 4: the new guy gets lost for thirty minutes and he's 392 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: on like a different floor and somebody's like, hey, do 393 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: you got does anybody have Victor's cell phone number? 394 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: Dun I find he go out on the elevator. 395 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 4: He was supposed to go to the photocopy. 396 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: He forgot to swipe his card, lost his ID, he 397 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: dropped his key fob. 398 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 4: We found it in the bathroom. 399 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: I mean it was a little bit of a rough start, 400 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: but you know what, Week one, Okay, let's just call 401 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 3: the success because like nobody got hurt. 402 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean except for Brittany Spears. Look, the point is, 403 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 4: like the first day on the job, you. 404 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: Could never ever ever, like like you could never really 405 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: get the full scoop until somebody gets settled in and 406 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: there is no way Victor Webbinyam is settled in yet. 407 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a reasonable person needs to give him 408 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 5: a give him a break. That doesn't mean that we 409 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 5: can't judge the market based off of and to me, 410 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 5: the only judge that I have is the futures market 411 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: right now and what the Rookie of the Year i'd 412 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: say like based off of last night, I think it's 413 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: fair to say that he shouldn't be as big of 414 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 5: a favorite to win Rookie of the Year as he is. 415 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: That's the only judgment I'm going to make last. 416 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: Night, not the future of his career, how good he 417 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 5: can be in five to ten years, what the upside 418 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 5: is should he have been drafted one. None of that 419 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: stuff should come into question. The only thing that I 420 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: can judge here and now is what the current market 421 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 5: status says, and that is that Victor wen Binyana from 422 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 5: The Jump Sight Unseen was a massive favorite to win 423 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year. That market is wrong, not incredibly wrong, 424 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 5: just needs to be adjusted slightly based off of what 425 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: we saw last night, because I think he has a 426 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 5: lot of work to do to get to the finished product. 427 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 5: But to grade and to judge him based off of 428 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: last night is foolish. All we could do is adjust 429 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 5: the market to what we saw. That's really all I 430 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: can do, all. 431 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: Right, We don't have to adjust a market at all. 432 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: When it comes to the greatness of Isaac Lowen Kron Okay, 433 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: he's minus fifty thousand. If you're a gambler in terms 434 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: of will he be great today, you'd have to lay 435 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: fifty thousand to win one hundred, because it's that much 436 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: about it. I would lay it, Yeah, I would too 437 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: if I had it. 438 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: I do well. 439 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, here's ilo with the latest that's going on. 440 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 8: But morning fellas, and it's a lock. You'll find out 441 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 8: why moments from now. But indeed, the top story in 442 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 8: sports the NBA Summer League debut of Victor wembin Yama 443 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 8: in San Antonio's seventy six sixty eight win over Charlotte 444 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 8: Friday night in Vegas. He played twenty seven minutes. He 445 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 8: scored nine points. He was just two out of thirteen 446 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 8: from the field. However, he did have eight rebounds, three 447 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 8: assists and five blocks. Here's what wembin Yama had to 448 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 8: say to the media after the game. 449 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: So you'll be quiet now while I talk, and then 450 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 4: I'll listen. 451 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 8: To you whoa talk about picking up the Spurs system 452 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 8: in a hurry. Let's try that again, shall we. 453 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 9: We won this game, so that's three zero for us, 454 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 9: and uh yeah, you know you've got to get a 455 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 9: acumended to at least kind of plays. Didn't aclimate because 456 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 9: it was my first time. So next time, I'm gonna 457 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 9: be better, and I could be better every time. 458 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 8: I like this first comment better anyway. In Major League Baseball, 459 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 8: on Friday night, the Mets won at San Diego in 460 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 8: ten inning, seven to five on Jeff McNeil's RBI double 461 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 8: leading off the top of the tenth. The Mets on 462 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 8: a six game winning streak. The Dodgers hit five home 463 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 8: runs in an eleven to four win over the Angels. 464 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 8: Mookie Betts had two home runs and four RBI, and 465 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 8: a showdown between the teams are the two best records 466 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 8: in baseball. The Atlanta Braves won at Tampa Bay two 467 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 8: to one on Sean Murphy's two run home run at 468 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 8: the top of the fourth. Atlanta's won nineteen of twenty one. 469 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 8: Perhaps even more impressively, Atlanta has homeward in twenty four 470 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 8: consecutive games. Tampa May meanwhile, has lost six straight. Finally, guys, 471 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 8: I swear I'm not making this up. I've got a 472 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 8: new detail in the Victor wembin Yama Britney Spears saga. 473 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 8: To goodness, I swear I'm not making this up. TMZ 474 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 8: reported this morning that moments after the incident with Wembin 475 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 8: Yama's security guard on Wednesday night, Britney Spears was seated 476 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 8: at a table at Catch restaurant Catch, but was then 477 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 8: asked to move to a different table because the original 478 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 8: table was being used by Polly Shore. 479 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, who would weasel buddy who had gotten up 480 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 3: to go to the bathroom but had left his phone, 481 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: glasses and fanny pack. 482 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 8: So who would have thought on Wednesday afternoon that just 483 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 8: days later we'd be talking about Victor Webbin Yama, Britney Spears, 484 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 8: Polly Shore and Polly Shore is fammy pack all in 485 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 8: the same reports. 486 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: That love triangle that America needs, Wow, the fanny pack, 487 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: poly Shore, Britney. 488 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: All three of them together. 489 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: And I love this story so much. I mean, I 490 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: want this, I want somehow like you know, Victor weman 491 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: Yama was seen later at a dance club and he 492 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: he like sweet kicked Fricky Martin. I want Tapanga from 493 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 4: Boy Meets World to somehow again involved, gorgeous man. I 494 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: want every ninety superstar to be involved in Victor's early 495 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 4: days here in the back. 496 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: Zach Morris, Hey Slater, Hey, hey, hey, what is going 497 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: on here? Mister you started this whole thing? You started? Yeah? Sorry, 498 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: I was saved by the bell reference. I jumped again. 499 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. 500 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: At the end of your first year, Discover credit cards 501 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: automatically double all the cash back you've earned. 502 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: That's right, everything you earned doubled. 503 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 3: Seriously see terms and check it out for yourself at 504 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: discover dot com. 505 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: Slash match. Okay, let's talk some ball over here. 506 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: So the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they are a confident bunch. 507 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: We had Tristan Wurf's remember the offensive lineman. He predicts 508 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: the team will go twelve and five this season. 509 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 4: Grousers. Okay. 510 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: The latest is cornerback Carlton Davis. So he's got a 511 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: message for anyone that's overlooking the team. After Tom Brady 512 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: the Goat retired, he said, we're about to do it 513 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: to him. Anybody who feels we've lost Tom and lost. 514 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: Something is going to be in for a rude awakening. 515 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: A rude awakening. 516 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: And he went on to say, we're going to wreck 517 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: bleep like wreck bleep, interceptions, turnovers, plays will be made. 518 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: I will say plays will be made. The last quote, 519 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: no doubt, and even division is worse than what it 520 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: was before. So we run through the We run through 521 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: the division, get to the playoffs, run through the playoffs, 522 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: and it's the super Bowl. He's talking super Bowl right, 523 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: by the way, the Vegas win total for Tampa is 524 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: said at six and a half. 525 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: And it's greatly lean toward the under. 526 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, the under today. Holy smokes. Yeah, let me let 527 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: me it's top balls, right, he's still the head coach 528 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: in Tampa. It's top ball. Okay, this is if I'm 529 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: top balls, I'm gonna do my best Top Bowls impression 530 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: talking to Tristan Wurfs and uh and Carlton Davis here. 531 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Shut up? What are you doing? 532 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: It's July, you morons? I mean, like, what on earth 533 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: has gotten into these two? 534 00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Look? 535 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: I understand, and like everybody's got a podcast now, and 536 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: your buddies may get you on a podcast and they 537 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: may be asking you to say fun stuff like, hey, 538 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: so are you guaranteeing a super Bowl when run this 539 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 4: this this season? You know, Look, it's we're just in 540 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 4: the culture now, like we're in the time where you 541 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: could have a microphone like thrown in front of you 542 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: at any moment. And so I have no idea where 543 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: exactly these quotes came from. I don't know how how 544 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: what state of mind they were in, if they were 545 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 4: having fun, if they're being a little goofy, if so. 546 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: I don't want to read too deeply into the quotes 547 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 4: because it, like especially that last one, was hyperbolic. I mean, 548 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 4: what are we doing? Like map, you could speak it 549 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 4: into existence privately. But man, when you start, when you 550 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 4: start talking mess about your division, when you start, when 551 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: you start talking about all the plays your defense is 552 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: gonna make and the turnovers you're gonna gain, Like this 553 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: is just all it does is give bullets for your 554 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: opponents to chamber against you. It's just bolton board material. 555 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: And that seems so cliche and so tired and so overdone, 556 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: but it's not true. Teams to this very day will 557 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 4: use coaches, good ones will use things like this against 558 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: you at every turn. It's such a mistake. It's better 559 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 4: just to be respectful and a little bit quieter when 560 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: it comes to like the season expectations, or what you 561 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: think of your division, or how you like your schedule 562 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: or how you match up this week. It's always better 563 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 4: to like, you know, ah, you know, I'll kind of 564 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: demure and be like, you know, look, we're a good team. 565 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: We're a confident team. But they're really good on that 566 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 4: side too, because the opposite is something like this, and 567 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: if it backfires, if this season goes the way Vegas 568 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: and frankly everybody in this room thinks it's gonna go 569 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, you just sound like you 570 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 4: have zero read on what your team's level of ability is. 571 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you better show up for that Week one game 572 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 5: at Minnesota, and you better hope Kirk Cousins Kirk Daddy 573 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 5: doesn't drop a big number on this Bucks defense, because 574 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 5: let's be honest, when you look at the numb Now, 575 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: I'm all for hot takes, I'm all for making people 576 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 5: entertained and laughing, but I also like to. 577 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: Be a nerd and look at the numbers. 578 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 5: And when I look at the numbers for Tampa Bay 579 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 5: last year, take aside the offense. 580 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to the offense in a minute. 581 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 5: Just the defense outside the top twenty in Pro football 582 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 5: focuses overall defensive grades, and that's the same defense that's 583 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: coming back this year with the same coordinator, Bowls and 584 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 5: the whole kit and kabudle. There not a top twenty 585 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 5: defense last year. Well, that's a problem because you lost 586 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 5: arguably the greatest player of all time and you replaced 587 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 5: him with Baker Mayfield, who last year, out of thirty 588 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 5: one qualifying quarterbacks, was dead last in completion percentage over expectation. 589 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: He was behind Davis Mills by. 590 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 5: A significant margin, behind Carson Wentz, behind Mac Jones, behind 591 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 5: Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford by a significant margin. 592 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 5: The guy you brought into replace the greatest quarterback of 593 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 5: all time had a significantly worse season than those quarterbacks 594 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 5: that I just gave you. 595 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: That would scare the Bejesus. 596 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 5: Out of me if I was talking smack on the 597 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 5: media networks about my team's chances of winning this year, 598 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 5: just that alone would make me a little eat a 599 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 5: little slice of humble. Hey, I know we lost Tom. 600 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 5: We're really excited to get back to work and to 601 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 5: put our nose on the grindstone and show everyone why 602 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 5: we can be better done. 603 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: That's it, that's all you have to say. 604 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, man, Tom Brady threw for almost 605 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 3: forty seven hundred yards last season, and this was an 606 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: average season for the Goat. It was, but that was 607 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: behind a decimated offensive line. They could not run the 608 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: ball at all to save their lives. You don't go 609 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: from eight to nine with the Goat to the super 610 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: Bowl without major, major additions left and right. And that 611 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: did not happen for Tampa Bay. So no, this is 612 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: pie in the sky, just hoop dreams defined by the 613 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 3: You gotta be confident as an athlete, I get it. 614 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: But this is well, you can be confident, and he 615 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: can be confident, and then you can become like borderline psychotic. 616 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: I mean, and this is the latter. 617 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: The only thing he said that was right was about 618 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: the division. That was it. 619 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: Yea, I disagree with that. No, it's not right either. 620 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: The Saints get Derek Carr. From Andy Dalton to Derek Carr. 621 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: That's an improvement. The Saints are a better football team Atlanta. 622 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 3: We'll see what Desmond Ritter does. But adding Bijon Robinson 623 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: and making defensive upgrades, you get Kaleis Campbell, who's I 624 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: know he's older, but you get a dude that's gonna 625 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: help your defense, which was rough last season. So I 626 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 3: think Atlanta's made some improvements. Also, I don't even agree 627 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: with that that the division is. That's the only thing 628 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 3: that he said that could even remotely make sense, though, 629 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: I I the division is pretty weak considering the other 630 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: divisions in the league. You get Jesse Bates in Atlanta. Also, 631 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: that's a good upgrade safety. 632 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 4: Say, I would say, if like you, if you have 633 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: like Baker Mayfield, play out of his mind, like play 634 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: like Baker Mayfield. Did I forget which year was? Might 635 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 4: be twenty twenty, he might be twenty twenty one when 636 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 4: they beat the Steelers in THEO opening round of the postseason. Like, yeah, 637 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 4: maybe Tampa Bay can make an argument that they they'll 638 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 4: be they'll be at the top of that division because 639 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 4: there's a lot of question marks everywhere you look. Carolina 640 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 4: is breaking in new quarterback. We've barely seen Desmond Ritter 641 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: at the NFL level at all. Derek Carr, coming off 642 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 4: of a productive but rough year per his standards with 643 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 4: the Raiders. But but that's that that Saints team is 644 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: the one that on my balling because that's the top 645 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 4: five defense from a year ago. And that that, to me, 646 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 4: was the biggest problem with Derek Carr in Oakland and 647 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 4: then Las Vegas throughout his career was as good as 648 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 4: he could be. He had a defense that let him 649 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 4: down every step of the way. Every step of the way. 650 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: The Raiders defenses over the years that Derek Carr was 651 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 4: quarterbacking for them were dreadful. So so yeah, he look 652 00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: the the the bold proclamation that in July, do you 653 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 4: have an idea about who the final teams dancing? 654 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: You know, I get it. 655 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 4: There are futures markets and and people like like Jared 656 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: obviously you're tied into this more than anybody I know, 657 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 4: Like the there are people who are right now in 658 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: July laying down their futures bets based off of win 659 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 4: totals and and and and you know, potential Super Bowl 660 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 4: teams and Super Bowl winners. But like, I don't think 661 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 4: you're your starting corner and offensive guard should be should 662 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 4: be the ones who are trumpeting those I think I 663 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 4: think it should be be people like us blowhards who 664 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: are given a microphone. 665 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: Right, that's Rich Orenberger Ornberger, Penn State All American, Jared 666 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. Coming up next, 667 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: a massive loss but also possibly a massive gain. It's 668 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. It 669 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on Fox Sports Radio. 670 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 3: We're coming to you live from the Tire Studios. Okay, 671 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: so the goat Tom Brady, some bad news, some good news. 672 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 3: We'll start with the bad. So he's lost around thirty 673 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: million dollars. He was an ambassador with FTX, the cryptocurrency company, 674 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 3: and it crashed and he's out a good thirty mil 675 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 3: right there. But but on the flip side, there are 676 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: reports that during a July fourth party, he was seen 677 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: flirting with one Kim Kardashian. Yeah, so you lose thirty mil. Yeah, 678 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: that bunch of the gut. Now you've got Kim k 679 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 3: and you're flirting, it'll be you know, that's a that's 680 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: an about face right there. You know, you win some, 681 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 3: you lose some. But I think this dude, not to 682 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 3: get too crazy on it. I think Brady at his 683 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: core is more Patriots than buccaneers, you know what I mean. Like, 684 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 3: he's more measured, he's more business, he's not party guy, 685 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: he's not yolo. I don't think he's gonna date Kim Kardashian. 686 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if that happens. But you know, flirting 687 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: with her, yeah, absolutely, But I don't see them like 688 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: linking up and being a couple. As my read on it, 689 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 3: I don't know. 690 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, here, here's the funny thing about life. 691 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 4: We we oftentimes feel more comfortable talking to people that 692 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 4: share the same level we're at. Right, Yeah, that's true. 693 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not necessarily saying it's always got to 694 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 4: do with money. Like right now, I would say the like, 695 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: not my best friends. My best friends are the guys 696 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: I grew up with, the guys who I played football 697 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 4: within college, couple of guys that I played football with 698 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 4: in the league, Like, those are my best friends. Those 699 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 4: are those are my guys for a life. 700 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 3: Right So, Like I couldn't be your best friend because 701 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 3: I say, summer, maybe it's I'm no good at grilling, 702 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 3: therefore I can't. 703 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on, I'm let me let me land 704 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 4: this plane. Okay, right now, those are my best friends. 705 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 4: But my better friends right now are guys like you 706 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 4: who do what we do on a daily basis, like 707 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 4: understand the grind of living, you know, a radio life. Honestly, 708 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 4: parents of the kids, of the kids that my kids 709 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 4: are friends with, Like I got an eight year old 710 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 4: right now, Like the majority of our closest friends right 711 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 4: now that are sort of you know, in our orbit 712 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 4: are the parents of my kids friends that we actually like, 713 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You know, so we'll invite 714 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 4: them over for drinks and we'll have our kids play 715 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 4: together in the yard or you know, they'll they'll be 716 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 4: the ones that when we're going down to the beach, 717 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 4: we'll give a ring or shoot a text message like, hey, 718 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 4: we're heading down to the beach. You get whatever you 719 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 4: guys are doing, you know, meet up with us, stuff 720 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 4: like that. Like, because they're on the same level right 721 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 4: now in life. They have little kids too, they know 722 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 4: what's going on. We share similar things in common. Oh, 723 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 4: the teacher said this to little Johnny. You know it's that. 724 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 4: So I think Kim Kay and Tom Brady are on 725 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 4: the same level right now. 726 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope it works out for Tom. I don't 727 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 5: the money with FTX. That's a drop in the bucket 728 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 5: for him. Make that back of the belt. Yeah, six months, 729 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 5: thirty hill Fox and yeah, all the other. 730 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: Stuff that he's gonna do, I'm sure. And you know 731 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: guys like that have just a ATM with this. 732 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: It's most wild that you could lose thirty mil and 733 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: it's not even close to crippling. 734 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: That's unreal. Come it up. 735 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 3: The good guy has gone full heel. The face has 736 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 3: gone heel in a major, major way. Details on the 737 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 3: way we are broadcasting live from the tire rack dot 738 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 3: Com studios tire rack dot com. We'll help get you 739 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: there and unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road hazard 740 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 3: protection and over ten thousand recommended installers. Tire rack dot com. 741 00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 3: The way tire buying should be. Damian Lillard, he has 742 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 3: gone from face to heel. Like bro wrestling, you have 743 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 3: the good guy that just goes nWo. 744 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 2: He's gone Hollywood Hulkogan over here, right, Like that's what 745 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: he's done. 746 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 4: He's not black. Yeah, he's put on a black bandana. 747 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 4: That's right. 748 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: He was eating vitamins and. 749 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 4: Saying his prayers. 750 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: Brother, yep, saying his prayers and they're all American hero 751 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 3: and now he has gone. He's he's dyeing his beard 752 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: a different shade. 753 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 4: And when I drive by Harley into Miami, you will 754 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 4: feel my wrath. 755 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: He's dressed in all black. You know, he's the villain 756 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 3: role right here. Because here's the deal with Dame. He 757 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 3: was loyal for a long time with the Portland Trailblazers 758 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 3: until he finally figured out they weren't as loyal to him. 759 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: And now he's looking out for number one. Now he 760 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 3: wants to be traded, and beyond wanting to be traded, 761 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 3: he wants to go specifically to the Miami Heat team 762 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 3: and that team alone. 763 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 2: His agent, Aaron Goodwin, has put out the word. 764 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 3: He has told teams if it's anyone but the Miami Heat, 765 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: they will get an unhappy player. 766 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 2: And look, I get it. 767 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 3: Dame is looking out for himself, which is who he 768 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 3: should be looking out for. But this puts the Blazers 769 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 3: in a tough, tough spot. And for a guy who 770 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: has not only looked sideways at other players going from 771 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 3: team to team, he said that once about Paul George 772 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 3: and Pat bev Wheor. He said, keep switching teams, running 773 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 3: from the grind, you boys as chumps. He put that 774 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 3: out there, and now he's the guy that's looking to 775 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 3: switch teams and there's a little nuance. 776 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: I have no problem with it. 777 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: That's what he should be doing because Portland is not 778 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 3: in win now mode. I have no issue with him 779 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: looking for a better fit and going somewhere else. But 780 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 3: on the heels of him calling out guys who have 781 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 3: done the same things, that's a hypocritical move. And to 782 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 3: take it a step further and say just this team 783 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 3: like that is rich right there? 784 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is uh here. I'm gonna speak on 785 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 4: the emotion and the personality of Dame before I get 786 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 4: to like what he's actually done and doing and what 787 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 4: this would mean for the league if this trade goes 788 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 4: down or doesn't. From an emotional profile standpoint, this reminds 789 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 4: me of one time I was dating this girl. And 790 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 4: have you ever had a friend who's like wise beyond 791 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 4: his years and and they're useful people, man, and you 792 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 4: should listen to them. 793 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 3: They're like stages that you know, just sort of inhabit 794 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 3: younger people's bodies. 795 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 4: It's wild. I had this guy, Josh, who is a 796 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 4: buddy of mine, who just when he spoke it almost 797 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 4: felt like he spoke in Bible quotes, like it just was. 798 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 4: It was, it was unbelievable. Like I remember, so I 799 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 4: was dating this girl and he just goes, she loves 800 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 4: you too much. It's too her and that's all he said. 801 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 2: That was Romans five seventeen, right right, And I'm just. 802 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: Like, what does that mean. I'm like, like, and why why. 803 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 3: Is all of a sudden they're missed? And why are 804 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 3: you backing up? This is so strange? No, like he 805 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,959 Speaker 3: he he said, I'm just. 806 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 4: Like, okay, you got to explain what you what your 807 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 4: thought process is here? He goes, no, dude, he was like, 808 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 4: anybody who can fall that hard in love that quickly, 809 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 4: that energy, if you ever wrong them is coming back 810 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 4: to you in spades like you are going to receive. 811 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 4: Like I'm telling you, man, He's like, run run for 812 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 4: your life. This is not going to end well. He 813 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 4: was like, you're gonna marry her? I said no, or 814 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 4: actually I said I don't know. I said I don't know. 815 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 4: I said, but I'm leaning towards no, and he goes, well, 816 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 4: then run run for your life. He goes, she she's 817 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 4: she fell in love way too fast. So I'm like Okay, 818 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 4: you know I'm gonna do my thing, Josh, thank you 819 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 4: for the advice, moving on with my life. Uh, he 820 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,959 Speaker 4: was one hundred percent right. He was one hundred percent right. 821 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 4: That got real real fast. Dame kind of reminds me 822 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 4: of that girl like Dame fell in love with Portland Dame. Dame. 823 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 4: He gave his all to these people and to this team, 824 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 4: and he made bold proclamations about what the Blazers meant 825 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 4: to him and what he was going to do with 826 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 4: the rest of his career. And man, he fell in 827 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 4: love real fast. And unfortunately for the Trailblazers, when you're 828 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 4: dealing with somebody who's quick to emotions, when those emotions 829 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 4: turn on you, it can get real ugly, real fast. 830 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 4: And that's exactly what they're experiencing right now. Yeah. 831 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: So here's my hot take of the day. 832 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 5: I hate this story so much and I don't want 833 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 5: to hear any more of it until the trade happens. 834 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 5: I think the most overblown, overhyped noise that we hear 835 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 5: in the media is where guys want to be traded. 836 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 5: Why are you telling us we can't make the trade. 837 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 5: I can't call Miami and make the trade like it 838 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 5: the agents and the teams. Sometimes it gets put out 839 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 5: by the agents, sometimes it gets put out by the teams. 840 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 5: Whichever entity it benefits more will leak something like this 841 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 5: because they want to. 842 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: It's like a grassroots marketing campaign. 843 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 5: They want everybody to know what's happening and what they 844 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 5: can hopefully manipulate by putting this information out there. I 845 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 5: don't like being manipulated by information. It's happening with the 846 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 5: draft stuff. Teams will tell these insiders what they don't 847 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 5: want the opposite, so they'll put it out there and 848 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 5: they'll stir up all this noise. It'll make the markets move, 849 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 5: it'll make us go through our little tizzies. But at 850 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's all just noise. I 851 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 5: don't care where Dame wants to go. Tell me when 852 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 5: he gets traded, then I'll be interested in reacting to 853 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 5: the news. But until we get that concrete information, I don't. 854 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: Know what I'm reacting to. 855 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 5: Like, obviously he wants to go to Miami and not 856 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 5: New Orleans, right Like if I was being traded from Portland, 857 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 5: i'd want to go to Miami too. I wouldn't want 858 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 5: to go to Minnesota or some other random team that 859 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 5: is definitely better equipped to give Miami or excuse me, 860 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 5: to give Portland the pieces they need in order to 861 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 5: feel compensated properly. We've known for weeks that Miami doesn't 862 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 5: have the horses, the money, the prospects, the anything, the picks, 863 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 5: the draft picks because of where they are in terms 864 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 5: of their standing to make Portland feel properly compensated. 865 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 3: So we're hearing all this noise. Well, he wants to 866 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 3: go to Portland. I mean he wants to go to Miami. Well, 867 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 3: obviously he does, because he's probably seeing the other offers 868 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 3: that are coming in. He's like, I don't want to 869 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 3: go there. I don't want to go there. I'm not 870 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:44,959 Speaker 3: going there. 871 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: But who cares? 872 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 5: Is all noise when he gets traded? Tell me he 873 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 5: gets traded if he's not getting traded by the way. 874 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 5: I think the more this noise gets stirred up, the 875 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 5: further my needle goes towards He's not getting traded, at 876 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 5: least not in any time soon. I think this is going 877 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 5: to continue to be a noise maker. We're gonna hear 878 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 5: a lot about where Dame wants to go and what 879 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 5: Portland can do, but we're not gonna hear any concrete news, 880 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 5: which is Woe's reports, Sham's reports, Portland trades Damian Lillard. 881 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: Here are the terms. 882 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: Until that happens. 883 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: This story to me is just figazy. 884 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 2: Well that I listen. 885 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,240 Speaker 3: With Dame putting it out there completely impacts him getting traded, 886 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 3: like it impacts the timeline, it impacts the compensation. The 887 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 3: Blazers have put it out there where they want four 888 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 3: first round picks and two quality players in a trade 889 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 3: for Damian Lillard. 890 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 2: Okay, that's what they want. 891 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 3: Dame has said, through his agent putting it out there, 892 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: if I go anywhere but the Miami Heat, I'm not 893 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 3: gonna be happy. 894 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 895 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 3: So here are the Blazers with Damian Lillard, who's about 896 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 3: to turn thirty three years old, who was sensational last 897 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 3: season and still is a valuable Blayer for a title 898 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 3: contending team, but he says he only wants to go 899 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 3: to one team that completely impacts his market, and they're 900 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 3: looking for four first round picks and two quality players 901 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: in return. If you're the Sixers and you were thinking, 902 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 3: hey man, maybe we make a play for Damian Lillard, 903 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 3: and you hear this they're gonna be teams that say, well, 904 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 3: we're not taking that type of risk. Have you seen 905 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 3: this dude's contract. He's still owed two hundred and sixteen million. 906 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 3: His player option in twenty six twenty seven is sixty 907 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 3: three point two million dollars when he's gonna be thirty six. 908 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: So if you hear this and he says. 909 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be happy playing for you, if it 910 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 3: says anything but heat on that jersey, that impacts his market. 911 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 2: And so that's why this story is gonna linger. 912 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 3: This is a big, big piece of the puzzle and 913 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 3: how it's eventually going to unfold with Dame saying anywhere 914 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 3: if it's it's Miami or bust. 915 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 2: So that's huge in the grand scheme of things. 916 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 3: And I know you might not like it, but settle 917 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 3: in because that impacts the market in what the Blazers 918 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 3: get in return, and they're gonna be looking for top dollar, 919 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: which is what they should be looking for. So the 920 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 3: way that works out, the Blazers went top price and 921 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 3: Dame says only one team though those completely butt heads 922 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:19,919 Speaker 3: with each other. 923 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 4: I think this is cataclysmic for the NBA. I'm not 924 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 4: kidding when I say this, I don't think that's overstating it. 925 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 4: You know, look, and I'm not saying this is going 926 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 4: to destroy the NBA all at once. It won't. But 927 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 4: if Dame Lillard, if Dame Lillard gets to call his 928 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 4: shot and then gets traded to the team he wants 929 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 4: to play because his agent Aaron Goodwin floats out, he won't. 930 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 4: Any other team who trades for him will get an 931 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 4: unhappy player, all right. Or if the Blazers try to 932 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 4: keep him at home, you know whatever, whatever the threat 933 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 4: will be, he won't play. He'll make it hard for 934 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 4: the whatever. All of that stuff, But if it actually happens, 935 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 4: the door the Pandora's box that you open, the door 936 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 4: that that is now a jar that gets kicked wide 937 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 4: open is insane. I mean, it is the type of 938 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 4: stuff that can destroy a league. I mean we're at 939 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 4: the time now where these contracts in the NBA for 940 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 4: these superstars don't mean anything. They're they're basically printed on 941 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 4: tissue paper. They're flammable. Uh, they're they're water soluble. I 942 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 4: mean it, they're they're they're there. They mean absolutely nothing. 943 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 4: James Harden went to the nets because he wanted to 944 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 4: go to the nets, and then he wanted out of 945 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 4: the nets. Kevin Durant went to the nets because he 946 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 4: wanted out of uh okay or uh uh uh Golden State, 947 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 4: and then he wanted out of there. Now he got 948 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 4: a little pushback, but eventually he got exactly what he wanted. 949 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 4: He went to a contender, like if if if he 950 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 4: calls his shot, though, if he says Miami or nowhere 951 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 4: else and this actually happened, what's gonna stop the next 952 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 4: star from doing this, or the next star from doing this, 953 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 4: or the next star from doing this. This is the 954 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 4: type of stuff that, like, you know, when you look 955 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 4: back on certain points in your life, like you know, 956 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 4: seminal moments that you didn't realize were happening at the time, 957 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 4: but were actually really important. You lost a job, you 958 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 4: met a girl, you bought a dog, whatever it may 959 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 4: be that changed the path of your life forever, you 960 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like little decisions that in the 961 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 4: moment you're like, ah, no, I wasn't very consequential, but 962 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 4: then you look back and you go, no, no, no, 963 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 4: that was everything. Because if I didn't buy the dog, 964 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 4: then I wouldn't have gone to the dog park where 965 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 4: I met the girl who became my wife and now 966 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 4: I have a family, you know what I mean? Like 967 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 4: like it's it's this is that moment. If Dame Lillard 968 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 4: ends up in South Beach, this changes everything. He's not 969 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 4: gonna be the last one, guys. 970 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 3: And if the NBA allows this, if the Blazers allow this, 971 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 3: if the Miami Heat allow this, what's gonna stop the 972 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 3: next player and the next player and the next player 973 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 3: who was gonna be a to buy jerseys anymore for 974 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 3: their kids. 975 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 4: I won't do it. 976 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 3: I will not invest in an NBA jersey because who 977 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 3: knows what team that player is gonna be on by 978 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 3: the end of the year. It's just there is no 979 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 3: loyalty in the NBA anymore. It's a huge problem. 980 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: It is. It's terrible. It's been happening for years now. 981 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving and James Harden have requested seven trades in 982 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 5: the last two years. I think you throw KD into 983 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 5: the mix too. I think that's where I get the 984 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 5: seven the nets little trio there. These players have had 985 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 5: too much power for years and now it's just they 986 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 5: keep pushing the line, and they keep pushing the line, 987 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 5: and they keep pushing the line. That's why I hate 988 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 5: this story, and I agree Brian. I think it's we're 989 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 5: gonna talk about it. It's obviously a big story. I 990 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 5: think it's it's not something that doesn't deserve our attention. 991 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 5: But it's not a story that, to me, is something 992 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 5: that's going to end well for the league, because when 993 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 5: these things happen publicly like they are, it's not good. 994 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 5: The best trades are the ones that happen in secret, 995 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 5: and then you wake up and this guy gets traded, 996 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 5: You're like, whoa, how did that happen like that? Those 997 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 5: organizations have run well, they did it all behind closed doors. 998 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 5: They got it done. There was no he said, he said, 999 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 5: there was no media scrutiny. And this guy wants a trade, 1000 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 5: and this is where I can go, and these are 1001 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 5: the players we want back, and just do your business 1002 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 5: and tell me when the trade happens. 1003 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: Like I it really is a soap opera. 1004 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 5: And a drama and a thirty for thirty Netflix documentary, 1005 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 5: and that's not what should be documented. The part that 1006 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 5: should be documented should be practicing, playing, interacting with your teammates, 1007 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 5: building the camaraderie, the fan base, doing stuff in the 1008 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 5: community to help you know, bolster the exposure of the league. 1009 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 5: This drama that we're talking about right now should not 1010 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 5: be headline news every day during the off season. I'm 1011 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 5: sure the NBA likes it to an extent because it 1012 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 5: keeps it relevant. But the power that these players now have, 1013 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 5: they completely control the narrative and it's you're right, it's 1014 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,320 Speaker 5: going in a really, really toxic direction. 1015 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 3: I just look at it where I'm surprised that the 1016 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,320 Speaker 3: NBA hasn't done what the NFL has done at times 1017 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 3: where there are players Baker Mayfield comes to mind, and 1018 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 3: I know it's Baker Mayfield, but follow me on this one. 1019 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,439 Speaker 3: When the Browns were initially interested in Deshaun Watson, they 1020 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 3: hadn't traded for him yet, Baker said, I won out 1021 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 3: and they said no. 1022 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 2: They just said no, that's a quarterback. 1023 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 3: And you can say what you want about Baker Mayfield 1024 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 3: is not even close to one of the league leaders. 1025 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 3: But that is a quarter back, right that is the 1026 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 3: most important position in that sport, some would argue in 1027 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 3: all of sports, and the Browns just said no initially. 1028 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 3: I'm surprised there aren't more NBA teams that say, oh, 1029 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 3: you want out, but you're under contract, and you know 1030 00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 3: it might not be ideal, but. 1031 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: You know, you'll you'll come around. 1032 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 3: You know, they're just like you want out, Okay, all right, 1033 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna get you out of here. 1034 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: Take that approach. 1035 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 5: If I was the Blazers right now and see what happens, 1036 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 5: what's the worst that could happen? 1037 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Dame backs down a little bit. 1038 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 3: Well, what I think with Dame, I'll say it's real fast. 1039 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 3: I know we got to go. But I was in 1040 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 3: Portland for three years doing local radio, and so I 1041 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 3: talked Blazers day in and day out, and Damian Lillard 1042 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 3: has my utmost respect. 1043 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 2: I love the guy. The dude is. 1044 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 3: A fantastic leader. He is a warrior. He is an 1045 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 3: unselfish player on the court. He is an unbelievable dude 1046 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 3: that's been in seclusion compared to other markets over there 1047 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 3: in Portland for a long time. And so I have 1048 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 3: no problem with him going elsewhere. But again with the 1049 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 3: backstory and putting my you know, affection toward the guy 1050 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 3: to the side. If you're looking sideways and you're commenting 1051 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 3: on other players switching teams. 1052 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 2: This is hypocritical. 1053 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just is. 1054 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 3: I can't help, but like you can't gloss over that, 1055 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 3: and I wish him the best. 1056 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 2: I think it's a move that makes sense. I think 1057 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 2: it can be both. 1058 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 3: I think it can be a move that is hypocritical, 1059 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 3: that goes against what you said about yourself and others, 1060 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 3: and also be the smartest thing you can do going forward. 1061 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 3: It's like, if Dame just stayed with the Blazers, he 1062 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 3: would be pot committed to a fault, and it's like 1063 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 3: it makes sense to switch it up, regardless of what 1064 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 3: you've said in the best. 1065 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree with everything you just said. I 1066 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 4: think personally this could work out for Dame. I think 1067 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 4: professionally this could work out for Dame. I think professionally 1068 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 4: this could work out for the Miami Heat and for 1069 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 4: the Portland Trailblazers. I'm not even saying that this is 1070 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 4: going to be a bad trade for anybody concerned. Maybe 1071 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 4: Miami's willing to give up the capital that's really requisite 1072 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 4: for a player of this caliber, you know, to justify 1073 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 4: sending him to South Beach. Maybe Dame helps Jimmy Butler 1074 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 4: and the crew out there in Miami back to the 1075 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 4: NBA Eastern Conference Finals and beyond. You know, maybe the 1076 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 4: Portland Trailblazers start building around Scoot and they start building 1077 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 4: a squad with the draft capitol they get in trade. 1078 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 4: So maybe everybody walks away from this transaction happy and 1079 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 4: even with like the hypocritical nature of how Dame spoke 1080 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 4: about all these things before compared to his actions now, 1081 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 4: I think we'll all forgive them, you know. But but 1082 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 4: what will be remembered and what will reverberate is the 1083 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 4: fact that a player called this shot and that ball 1084 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 4: sailed over the wall right where he said it would go. 1085 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 4: That's a problem for the NBA that is going to 1086 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 4: have echoes and reverberations into the future that may destroy 1087 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 4: this league because because if you have players who now 1088 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 4: not only can request trades, but then have those trades 1089 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,439 Speaker 4: honored and then also get to call which team they're 1090 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 4: going to be traded to, I mean you are going 1091 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 4: to destroy this week. There there is no coming back 1092 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 4: from that, because it sets a precedent. 1093 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 2: We got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American. 1094 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 3: Jared Smith is with us FSR betting analyst. Is Jackpot 1095 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 3: still on a hot streak? 1096 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: Your dog is Jack So I'm a personally on a 1097 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: hot streak. 1098 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 5: I have won like six out of my last seven 1099 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 5: Nerve for bets jackpots, snoozing right now. He doesn't know 1100 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 5: what he doesn't know what's what's going on. 1101 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 2: He had dream streaming of kibbles right now. 1102 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: Probably probably the food that I just fed him. 1103 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm Brian. No perfect segue over here. 1104 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, our own Jared Smith has violated a very 1105 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 3: important gambling rule. 1106 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 2: Uh oh, there are details to come. 1107 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 3: Okay, it's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. 1108 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. 1109 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday live from the IRAQ dot Com 1110 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 3: studios here on Fox Sports Radio. So this is a 1111 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 3: gambling story for the ages over here. Okay, little backdrop. 1112 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 3: I had my heart broken earlier this week, broken, Oh Rich. 1113 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 4: Rich was it a Nerfy? 1114 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 3: It wasn't a Nerfy, although I have dipped my beak 1115 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 3: in the Nerfy water, so I've hooked on Nerfy. 1116 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 4: No runs. 1117 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Are fled. 1118 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 3: If you have dabbled in these, you haven't lived. So 1119 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 3: I'll give you the cliffs Notes version here. Okay, I'm 1120 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 3: not gonna you know, detail my fantasy football team and 1121 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 3: you guys just don't care, all right, but you got 1122 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 3: to understand the context for this to really make sense. 1123 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 3: So Tuesday, I've got the Brewers tied to a parlay 1124 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 3: and it's the last leg and they lose in heartbreaking fashion. 1125 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 3: All right there, they score four runs late to send 1126 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 3: the game into extra innings. There are all this momentum excitement. 1127 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 3: The Cubs don't score in the top of the tenth. 1128 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 3: You know, you have that runner on second base in 1129 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 3: the regular season, So the Cubs don't score. Brewers got 1130 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 3: a great chance. They send the runner home with one 1131 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 3: out on a single, not even close complete meat doesn't score. 1132 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 2: The Cubs score in the top of the eleventh. 1133 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 3: The Brewers get thrown out at home again by the 1134 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 3: same guy Ian Hap. 1135 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 2: They lose an utter, heartbreaking fashion. 1136 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 3: I send to the Saturday crew, I send a screenshot 1137 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 3: of all my failed parlays, and I just say, man, 1138 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 3: the Brewers toyed with my emotions. Then they took a 1139 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 3: crowbar to a few of my parlays. Jared Smith his reaction, 1140 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 3: I had a nice end to the day. Actually, hold on, Manute, 1141 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 3: hold on. 1142 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: You buried the lead here because earlier in the day 1143 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: we were on others. 1144 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 5: Early in the week, we were on opposite sides of 1145 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 5: a bet and you won in a very fortunate way. 1146 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: He gave me violent emoji. 1147 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 2: That's where it comes. 1148 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 3: So so here's the thing, and we'll we'll circle back 1149 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 3: to your context over because it makes a little more sense. 1150 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 2: Still unforgivable, but makes a little more sense. 1151 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 1: I apologize, Brian. 1152 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,800 Speaker 2: It's okay. 1153 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get to an apology, Brian. 1154 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 3: This would be like, you know what this is like 1155 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 3: in gabling terms, this would be like going to one 1156 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 3: of your friends and saying, man, my marriage is on 1157 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 3: the rocks. 1158 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 2: Man, weird. 1159 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 5: Bet. 1160 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 2: Everyone not even happy anymore. 1161 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 3: It's just it's a bad situation. 1162 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 2: And your friend looks at you and says. 1163 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Marriage is great. 1164 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 2: Things couldn't be better you had more. 1165 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 5: Than one marriage, Like you make as many bets as 1166 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 5: you make throughout the course of the week. I would 1167 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 5: feel differently, But you'll have one marriage, So i'd be upset. 1168 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 5: If that was the only bet you've ever made in 1169 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 5: your whole life and you're never gonna make another bet again, 1170 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 5: I would be very upset. 1171 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: I feel for you. 1172 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 2: I don't have parlays. 1173 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 3: That was an over six hundred dollars swing was losing 1174 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,440 Speaker 3: that way, so it cost me about one hundred, but 1175 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 3: I would have won over five hundred. 1176 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 2: It was about a six twenty five swing. 1177 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were going from Fila, Mignon Ramen. The way 1178 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: they lost was. 1179 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 3: Just real, and I get I had a nice end 1180 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 3: of the day. Actually, I like, I actually, you do? 1181 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: You do? 1182 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 4: I do syd with Brian a little bit here because 1183 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 4: this is kind of like, this is a little bit like, yeah, 1184 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 4: you know, guys, uh sorry, being kind of out of 1185 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 4: it lately. Grandma just died. You know, It's just it's 1186 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 4: been tough. She's been important part to my upbringing. And 1187 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 4: then you're just like, yeah, jeez, gosh, tough news, man, 1188 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 4: tough news. My grandpa actually just finished a half marathon. 1189 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 1: You are so after comparing family and death and life 1190 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: and love to a parlay, we are we are. 1191 01:03:58,960 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 4: So proud of Papa. 1192 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean we afterwards. 1193 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 3: He's still eating like massive amounts of bacon, but like, 1194 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 3: the dude is like he is just living his best 1195 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 3: life beyond seventy. 1196 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 5: From the bottom of my heart, Brine, I apologize. I 1197 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 5: never speak another gambling victory. 1198 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 2: It's all good, man, It's totally fine. 1199 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 1: You know what. 1200 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 2: This should be the running joke, though this would be 1201 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 2: the running joke. 1202 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 3: In the text thread if someone's like, oh can you 1203 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 3: believe this bad beat and it's just a screenshot of Hey, 1204 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 3: my night was awesome, just cashing, just cashing, like, oh 1205 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 3: my god, yeah that stinks. Hey, By the way, my 1206 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 3: yes innings first yes, runs. 1207 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 4: First inning. 1208 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 2: I was nails, nails, That's where it stems from. 1209 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 4: I get it. 1210 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 2: So you had a nerfy this was Oh, it. 1211 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: Was Royals twins, two out. 1212 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 5: It was five up, five down, two outs, bases empty 1213 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 5: bottom first against Grenky and. 1214 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 1: I went the other way hit. Yeah. 1215 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 3: Yes, And we didn't discuss it beforehand, like you know, 1216 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 3: we make bets. We don't discuss every bet we make. 1217 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 3: You tweeted or you message that you were on. 1218 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: The yes, and I said, I really, I'm on the 1219 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 1: knowing that game. 1220 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 3: And and it was one of those I was like 1221 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 3: a classic Beno versus Jay Smith showdown here and it 1222 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 3: was a beano wrapping out of his hat getting that win. 1223 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I had a ninety I was looking at the odds lot. 1224 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 5: I had a ninety seven percent chance of winning that 1225 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 5: bet too out Spottom first with two strikes. 1226 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was wash on the river there. 1227 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, what it happened. Those things happened. 1228 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 5: But then when I said, oh, Brian, go buy a 1229 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 5: lot of ticket that was lucky, you gave me the 1230 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 5: violin emoji back. 1231 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 2: So there you guys, there's this. 1232 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: Fart back and forth. 1233 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 4: This is stuff you don't see. I get it. 1234 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 3: I understand now that's interesting too, not to get too 1235 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 3: in the gambling weeds. But there's another perspective on that 1236 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 3: nurfy you know, Royal's Twins bet. I was thinking about 1237 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 3: this at the time, because you're right, it was five up, 1238 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 3: five down. 1239 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 4: You need to hear it. One more out. 1240 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 2: There's not a runners, two strikes, not a stiff. 1241 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 3: In the next thing, you know, Granky allows a couple 1242 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 3: of base runners rank the Twins score a run, And 1243 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 3: I hear you right, it was a ninety some percent 1244 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 3: chance that you were going to cash that bet and 1245 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 3: there was not going to be a run scored in 1246 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 3: the first inning. 1247 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 2: But then you look at at the the game like 1248 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 2: you have. 1249 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 3: Granky went to one and nine at the time, Yeah, 1250 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 3: like his thatll gives up six runs, the Twins score nine, 1251 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 3: and so I look at it and say, you were 1252 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 3: that close in the first inning. 1253 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 2: But the way the game played out. Maybe you were 1254 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 2: lucky to be that less in the first I. 1255 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 5: Think the game and that's why I like and again 1256 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 5: not baseball does not capture the hearts and minds of 1257 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 5: America like Victor Weinbergnon and Britney Spears do. 1258 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 1: But I do think. 1259 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 5: I do think baseball is a beautiful sport to bet 1260 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 5: on because of the discrepancies in how you can kind 1261 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 5: of manipulate some of the odds in your favor. And 1262 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 5: let's be honest, right now, it's kind of the only 1263 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 5: show in town. So better better get on board the 1264 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 5: next six weeks or so, because that's all we really got. 1265 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,919 Speaker 3: There's a great show in sound right now. Oh yeah, 1266 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 3: I hope you guys are going to catch this show repeatedly, 1267 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 3: it would be. It's called Isaac loewen Kron and I 1268 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 3: cannot speak more highly of it to our audience. 1269 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 2: I low with the latest. 1270 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 8: Speaking of shows, you're not kidding about your text chain. 1271 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 8: I've never told you guys this, but it was probably 1272 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,960 Speaker 8: a couple months ago, but I was accidentally included on 1273 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 8: your text chain for it, and I was astounded at 1274 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 8: how often you guys text each. 1275 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Other like each other. 1276 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's really cool. 1277 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 4: I mean because you were. 1278 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 3: There for a day and you just did the Irish 1279 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 3: goodbye and slipped you were in it. I think he 1280 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 3: requested to be removed on the Yeah. 1281 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 8: Well, you have to understand fellas my massive ego, because 1282 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 8: every time I hear the ding, it's like Pavlov's dog 1283 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 8: when the bell ring. 1284 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 2: Who's texting me? 1285 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 8: Who's texting me? But then it's uh, you know, as 1286 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 8: Jared saying l O L or something to something that 1287 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 8: Brian said, and then Richard chimes in. So at some 1288 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 8: point my massive ego completely overtook every Actually I don't 1289 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 8: remember deleting it. I think I just kind of faded 1290 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,559 Speaker 8: away automatically. But I was very impressed at how often 1291 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 8: you guys text each other. 1292 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 4: Had you had it wrong? It was Brian saying, yeah, 1293 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 4: so me and Tasha got a divorce, and Jared Smith 1294 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 4: going l O L me and Christina renewing our bows. 1295 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: This is coming from a chronically. 1296 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 5: I know, Oh my gosh, me, I'm the chronically single 1297 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 5: one that's divorce the way, not rich Rich is happily 1298 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:49,679 Speaker 5: married with beautiful children. 1299 01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 8: I hope standard text messaging rates do not apply, and 1300 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 8: considering you're not frequency they do. 1301 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Because it was Brian's uh ANDROI we gotta go with 1302 01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 1: the green. 1303 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 4: I love that so much. 1304 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 1: I absolutely the ultimate troll job. 1305 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 5: You want to talk about Hollywood Hulk Cogan heels, Yeah, 1306 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 5: Brian's bubbles. 1307 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 4: Who has a Google phone hits? 1308 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 6: That would be me? 1309 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,600 Speaker 8: I stall a flip phone Just kidding. Actually I was 1310 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,919 Speaker 8: late to the party flip phone via iPhone. But fortunately 1311 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 8: I've made up four lost time. Someone who has not 1312 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,560 Speaker 8: had a lot of time period is Victor wem Binyama. 1313 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 8: He did get twenty seven minutes in his summer league 1314 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 8: debut on Friday night as San Antonio Spurs beat the 1315 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,679 Speaker 8: Charlotte Hornets seventy six to sixty eight. He scored nine points, 1316 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 8: just two out of thirteen from the field, however, eight rebounds, 1317 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,639 Speaker 8: three assists, and five blocked shots. In Major League Baseball 1318 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 8: on Friday night, the New York Mets won at San 1319 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 8: Diego in ten innings, seven to five. Jeff McNeil the 1320 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 8: game winning RBI double leading off the top of the 1321 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 8: tenth inning. The Mets now in a six game winning streak. 1322 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 8: Game between the teams are the two best records in baseball. 1323 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,560 Speaker 8: Saw the Atlanta Braves win at Tampa Bay two to 1324 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 8: one thanks to Sean Murphy's to run home run in 1325 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 8: the top half of the fourth inning. Atlanta's won nineteen 1326 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,160 Speaker 8: of twenty one Tampa Bays on a six game losing streak. 1327 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 8: Phillies won a Miami four to three Christian Pace the 1328 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,600 Speaker 8: game winning two run pinch hit home run at the 1329 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,959 Speaker 8: top of the ninth inning. The Phillies tied a franchise 1330 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 8: record with their thirteenth straight road of victory, and the 1331 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 8: Dodgers hit five home runs, two of them by Mookie Betts, 1332 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 8: in an eleven to four win over the Angels. 1333 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 2: And get this, guys. 1334 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 8: Before Friday's game between the Dodgers and the Angels, the 1335 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 8: La Metro system even piled on the Angels, tweeting and 1336 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 8: I quote go Metro's Dodger Stadium Express for Blue versus 1337 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:42,559 Speaker 8: Halos use a b D or Jay lines to reach 1338 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 8: Union Station before the Halos wave the white flag and 1339 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 8: trade shohi otani ouch. The opposing cities metro system even 1340 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 8: trolling you back to you. 1341 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 3: Interesting right there, it is Fox Sports Saturday, right here 1342 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. 1343 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 2: Look man, where the Angels are right now? 1344 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 3: They are exactly five hundred, and you have all these 1345 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 3: injuries show hey with the blister, so he's not pitching 1346 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 3: the same way right now, Mike Trout out for what 1347 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,639 Speaker 3: is it, six to eight weeks, forty eight weeks somebody out. 1348 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, with the wrist injury right there. 1349 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 3: Man, if you let if you try to hold on 1350 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 3: to Otani, I get it, But if it doesn't work out, 1351 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 3: you're letting a like unprecedented player. This is the first 1352 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 3: time it's happened. I saw this stat. He reached one 1353 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 3: hundred hits for the season yesterday. So he's got one 1354 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,719 Speaker 3: hundred hits and one hundred strikeouts in the last three seasons. 1355 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 3: That's never happened before. Wild never happened before. And you're 1356 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 3: what you're risking losing that guy and getting absolutely nothing 1357 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 3: in return when you're what about five games back in 1358 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,719 Speaker 3: the second wild card. 1359 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 1: Race right now? 1360 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 3: Like whoa You talk about gambles over here, Gambling with 1361 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,080 Speaker 3: not trading Otani is one of the biggest gambles in 1362 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 3: sports history. 1363 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 4: I agree with you, But I've said this before, I'll 1364 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 4: say it again. I don't know if he's tradable. And 1365 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 4: what I mean by that is this is going to 1366 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 4: be an unprecedented haul for show Hey Otani. So whoever 1367 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 4: whoever gets show Hey is going to have to bet 1368 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 4: the farm and I mean literally the farm to get him. 1369 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 4: And it's going to require some ballplayers, probably at the 1370 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 4: major league level too. I mean it's going to be 1371 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 4: a hall, an unprecedented hall, and what is that team 1372 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 4: left with? You kind of have to strip the house 1373 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 4: to the studs in order to get show Hey, and 1374 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 4: then I guess build around him. But the show Hey 1375 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,560 Speaker 4: Otani want to go to a team that's going to 1376 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 4: be torn down so that he can wait another five 1377 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,640 Speaker 4: years for playoff relevancy. 1378 01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 1: I don't. 1379 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 4: I don't think that's what he wants. So I agree 1380 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 4: with you. I think I think it's possible that there's 1381 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 4: a trade partner that's willing to part with enough to 1382 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:14,840 Speaker 4: get him. But but man, I don't in the end, 1383 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's gonna be a situation where 1384 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 4: Shohei Otani wants to play for I mean, you name it, 1385 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 4: what the Orioles or actually they're performing fairly well this season, 1386 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 4: but like you know what I mean, like go to 1387 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 4: a team that's kind of hopeless this season and then 1388 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,439 Speaker 4: potentially or even hopeful this season, but then potentially in 1389 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 4: the future. You know, they really kind of gut themselves 1390 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 4: to get them. I don't know if that's I don't 1391 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 4: know if that's what he's looking for professionally. 1392 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not hearing the same rhetoric from Anaheim as 1393 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,640 Speaker 5: we are from Portland with Dame on trades right right, 1394 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 5: And that's the difference here is Showhy is one of 1395 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:56,679 Speaker 5: the more humble superstars that I've ever watched, and could 1396 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 5: be Japanese culture. 1397 01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I think baseball is a little different over there. 1398 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 3: But to be fair, though, Jared, they're in different situations 1399 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,400 Speaker 3: where he can walk at the end of the season, 1400 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 3: Dames under contract for years. 1401 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 1: I agree, I was just kind of being there. 1402 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 5: I hear you though, Yeah, but it's just it's a 1403 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 5: very different situation it also, you're right, I think it 1404 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 5: does speak to the situation of what each team is 1405 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 5: in and each player. But I just think, oh if 1406 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 5: I was I keep every time I these types of 1407 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 5: things come up, I try to put myself in the 1408 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 5: mind of Artie Moreno and the Angels, you know, front 1409 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 5: office staff, and I don't know if I could sleep 1410 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 5: with myself look myself in the mirror at the end 1411 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,520 Speaker 5: of the night and go to sleep and feel comfortable 1412 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 5: if I if I traded the best player on the planet, 1413 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 5: it didn't at least attempt to make a run at him, 1414 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,599 Speaker 5: because I think the upside is you get a lot back. 1415 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 5: But let's be honest, this is a front office that 1416 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 5: has completely butchered Anthony Rendon's deal, Albert Pujols's deal, Vlad 1417 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 5: Guerrero Seniors deal. In the last fifteen twenty years. They 1418 01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,719 Speaker 5: have not I had the best track record for making 1419 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,600 Speaker 5: the right decision. It's almost like a George Castanza. Go 1420 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 5: the opposite here. You know, what's your first instinct trade them? Well, 1421 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 5: let's go the opposite of that, because our instincts in 1422 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 5: the front office with making large moves have it panned 1423 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 5: out lately. And I think if their instinct is to trade, 1424 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 5: I don't know what their instinct is. I have no 1425 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,640 Speaker 5: idea what's going on inside Ardie Marino's head. If his 1426 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 5: instinct is to trade them, I go opposite here, because 1427 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,680 Speaker 5: the worst case scenario is you trade them and you 1428 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 5: get you make the wrong call on what you get back. 1429 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, I think this is pocket Ace's 1430 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 3: if we're playing Texas. 1431 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 4: Hold them. 1432 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 3: If you go all in with pocket aces and you lose, 1433 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 3: it's like, well, I had pocket aces, You're true. That 1434 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 3: to me is like risking, like not trading. Oh, Tony, 1435 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,639 Speaker 3: you want to keep the guy. If you have pocket 1436 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,879 Speaker 3: aces and you don't. 1437 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 2: Go all in, you win. 1438 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 1: You're like, why didn't I go all in? 1439 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 2: I had pocket aces? 1440 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Try to trap someone? 1441 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're being aggressive over here. Our producer 1442 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 3: Bo has something real fast on this. 1443 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 1: What do you got both? Yeah? 1444 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 10: So I just I looked at the top five farm 1445 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 10: systems as of the preseason, so it's a little different now. 1446 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 10: The Reds, the Guardians, the Diamondbacks, the Dodgers, and the Orioles. 1447 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:13,599 Speaker 4: Are the top five. 1448 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:18,000 Speaker 1: The Reds trading for Show, but the. 1449 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 10: Dodgers are the only team there that would trade for him. 1450 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 10: The other the other four are not going to do 1451 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,840 Speaker 10: it because they just don't have the depth of the 1452 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 10: Dodgers do. And Arty Moreno is not going to send show. Hey, Tony, 1453 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 10: the Dodgers. That's not happening. Yeah, zero zero percent chance. 1454 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,840 Speaker 4: I just don't see it happened. I just I agree happening. 1455 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 5: I would keep them. I think I keep going back 1456 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 5: and forth. You talking to this on every show I'm on. 1457 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,000 Speaker 5: At this point, I would keep them and I would 1458 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 5: pray to the show. Hey, gods man that he finds 1459 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 5: it in his heart to stay. But at least you 1460 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 5: get him. He might break Eric Judges record this year. 1461 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 2: I understand. 1462 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I understand the Gamble team in September. 1463 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,600 Speaker 2: I get the Gamble. But man, man, you got to 1464 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 2: land that bird. 1465 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 3: You can't walk for nothing, right get by the way, 1466 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,360 Speaker 3: our producer bo he was the one that threw tiny 1467 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 3: violins in your face over there on the text threat. 1468 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 1: Oh it wasn't. 1469 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 9: It wasn't. 1470 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 2: I want to clear my good name. You're mad at 1471 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 2: the wrong. 1472 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,719 Speaker 1: Guy guy this year. 1473 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 10: That was about the Cardinals being bad. 1474 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh, so he was trolling me. 1475 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,719 Speaker 3: I was trolling and you thought we all were trolling 1476 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 3: you Jared something along those lines. Hey, at the end 1477 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,679 Speaker 3: of your first year, to cover the Discover credit cards, 1478 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 3: automatically double all the cash back you've earned. That's right, 1479 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 3: everything you earned doubled. Seriously see terms and check it 1480 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 3: out for yourself at Discover dot com. 1481 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 2: Slash match. 1482 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,040 Speaker 3: All right, we've got rich Oordnberger, Penn State All American, 1483 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 3: Jared Smith with us FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no 1484 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 3: coming up next. I think this sound is hilarious, my 1485 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 3: favorite SoundBite of the week. We'll see if you think 1486 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,920 Speaker 3: it's as funny as I do. It's Fox Sports Saturday 1487 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. 1488 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 4: Welcome back in. 1489 01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. 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So 1499 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 3: it's Bill's mini camp. Stefan is there, the coach, Sean 1500 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 3: McDermott says get out of here, just go leave for 1501 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 3: a day, and so Stefan does, and there was that 1502 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 3: whole thing. This is what Josh Allen told busting with 1503 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 3: the boys. 1504 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 11: The media's blonus so far out of proportion, right, Like 1505 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,719 Speaker 11: we are in rookie or mini caamp. We're not playing 1506 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 11: a game for four months. He doesn't show up one day, 1507 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 11: he's still there, you know. Coach asked him to go home. 1508 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 11: We're in talks and discussions of trying to trying to 1509 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 11: resolve some things. And it wasn't anything major. 1510 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 2: Nothing may make sure the coaches get out of here. 1511 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,599 Speaker 2: Get out of here. He can't take it anymore. 1512 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say this is earth shattering, but for 1513 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 3: something to linger five months after a playoff loss for 1514 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, what's gonna happen when they lose too straight 1515 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,720 Speaker 3: in the regular season or it's a playoff game and 1516 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 3: he doesn't have enough targets, right, that sort of deal. 1517 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 3: This matters a lot, and it's just funny, like the 1518 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 3: media is just blowing this out of proportion. The coach 1519 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 3: said get the hell out of here and said he 1520 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,839 Speaker 3: was completely worried and very concerned. 1521 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 2: No big deal, nothing to see here. I just think 1522 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:30,600 Speaker 2: that's hilarious. 1523 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, and that's news. The fact that 1524 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,200 Speaker 4: he was kicked out of the facility we didn't know 1525 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,360 Speaker 4: that prior to this appointment on the podcast. Look, I 1526 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,639 Speaker 4: like Josh Allen. I don't have a lot of negative 1527 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,799 Speaker 4: to say about him, but the fact that he's blaming 1528 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,480 Speaker 4: the media for the turmoil in Buffalo is a little ridiculous. 1529 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,200 Speaker 4: I mean, Stefan Diggs might be responsible for the turmoil, 1530 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,639 Speaker 4: or Josh Allen, or who knows, maybe Sean McDermott. Maybe 1531 01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 4: he's not handling whatever situation. But there is a situation 1532 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,800 Speaker 4: that's occurred. And I don't know about you, guys, but 1533 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,439 Speaker 4: if you get sent home from work by your boss, 1534 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 4: that's a problem. Yea. 1535 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,760 Speaker 5: There's so many things wrong in Buffalo right now, not 1536 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 5: to mention Tremaine Edmunds, the Green Dot linebackers you know, 1537 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 5: moved on, and Sean McDermott now has to go from 1538 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,920 Speaker 5: head coach to DC because Leslie Fraser took a leave 1539 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 5: of absence. But then you throw all this stuff on 1540 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball, Ken Dorsey, I don't 1541 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,240 Speaker 5: trust bills are a fade this year, guys, they are 1542 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 5: I hear you, man, hear. 1543 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 3: You making it harder for themselves. Coming up next, who's 1544 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 3: the most hated, who's the most scrutinized. Let's talk hatred, 1545 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 3: Let's talk scrutiny. 1546 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 4: That is on the way. 1547 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 3: We're broadcasting live from the tirack dot com studios. 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So I saw something with Kevin Durant here 1552 01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 3: that stood out where there was someone on social media 1553 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,679 Speaker 3: just threw it out there and said, hey, is Kevin 1554 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 3: Durant a top twenty most hated player of all time? 1555 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 3: And then said, I feel like for most of my 1556 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,519 Speaker 3: life it's been Lebron, but it feels now that KD 1557 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 3: is the clubhouse leader and pulling further away from the 1558 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 3: field every day. Kevin Durant responded and said, as long 1559 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:26,160 Speaker 3: as it makes your NBA watching experience better, hate me 1560 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 3: as much as you need, which is a great response. 1561 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,000 Speaker 3: So this is what I think, guys. I think there 1562 01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 3: are two layers to this one. KD is not the 1563 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 3: most hated. It's still Lebron. 1564 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 1: James. 1565 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 3: Lebron will comment on things that delve into politics or 1566 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 3: are completely political, and if your political thoughts and affiliation 1567 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,759 Speaker 3: doesn't align with his, then it's open season on Lebron. 1568 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 2: Lebron is the most hated guy. 1569 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 3: And beyond that, some people just don't like how Lebron 1570 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 3: is always trying to shift the narrative and the focus 1571 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,560 Speaker 3: to paint him in the best possible light there is. 1572 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,759 Speaker 3: So it's Lebron by miles in terms of the most hated. 1573 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,040 Speaker 3: I don't hate the guy, to be clear, but a 1574 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 3: lot of people do. It's not the same thing with 1575 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,960 Speaker 3: Kevin Durant. The other part of this is I think 1576 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 3: KD what he just said in that response, I think 1577 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,200 Speaker 3: Lebron would benefit by doing that. Kd's just like, hey, 1578 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,719 Speaker 3: if you hate me, then it makes your experience better, great, 1579 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:23,880 Speaker 3: knock yourself out. 1580 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:24,559 Speaker 4: I don't care. 1581 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Lebron isn't the I don't care guy. 1582 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 3: Lebron is like, well, if you think of it from 1583 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,479 Speaker 3: this perspective, though, is that really true? 1584 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 1: Bro? 1585 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,240 Speaker 3: You're better off just say it. Hate me if you 1586 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,559 Speaker 3: want to. That's something that KAD I think gets right. 1587 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:42,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think there are people who really want 1588 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 4: to be loved and there are people who really honestly 1589 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 4: don't care. That's right, and I do think that there's 1590 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 4: gray area. I think that's a spectrum also, And I 1591 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,960 Speaker 4: think certain people who normally don't care if they're loved 1592 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 4: sometimes do, and some people who normally really really care 1593 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:03,679 Speaker 4: about being loved sometimes don't. And I would say both 1594 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 4: Lebron James and Kevin Durant fall on the side of 1595 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,640 Speaker 4: For the most part, they want to be loved. For 1596 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 4: the most part, they want to be the heroes, not 1597 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:18,480 Speaker 4: the heel. For the most part, they appreciate adoration versus vitriol. 1598 01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,080 Speaker 4: There are certain people who are the heel. Draymond Green, 1599 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 4: he loves it, Yeah, totally. He thrives off of it. 1600 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,799 Speaker 4: It's his lifeblood. Kevin Durant a little bit more sensitive 1601 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,960 Speaker 4: than Draymond Green. Lebron James a lot more sensitive than 1602 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,800 Speaker 4: Draymond Green. I mean, Lebron James is so sensitive that 1603 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 4: like him and Mike Malone got into a little bit 1604 01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 4: of a back and forth. Like Mike Malone, the Denver 1605 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 4: Nuggets head coach, like the things that he's saying, like 1606 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 4: that's bugging you king, I mean, are you sure? Are 1607 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,400 Speaker 4: you sure that you want to roll with him? 1608 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 1: Okay? 1609 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant, Like, I mean, this is a guy. Who 1610 01:23:55,240 --> 01:24:00,160 Speaker 4: I mean, he responds via burner accounts on Twitter or 1611 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 4: to haters. So yeah, you could play cool guy and 1612 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,960 Speaker 4: you could be like, yeah, if your hatred for me 1613 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:13,240 Speaker 4: improves our basketball watching ratings, Wow, you're not buying it. 1614 01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 4: Go ahead and hate me, Doug like, nah, I'm not 1615 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,639 Speaker 4: with it, Kevin. I'm not with it, Kevin. I think 1616 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 4: you're a lot more sensitive than that. And I think 1617 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 4: that's okay, by the way, and I think it's okay. 1618 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,599 Speaker 4: I look, grown men cry, it's cool. I'm one of them. 1619 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,559 Speaker 4: It's okay. Man, bear your soul. Yeah, sometimes it hurts, 1620 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,000 Speaker 4: sometimes it stings, and you're allowed to say that. And 1621 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,240 Speaker 4: that's cool too. Bullying's not cool, you know what I mean? 1622 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,960 Speaker 4: And he gets bullied sometimes, and you know what, I 1623 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 4: think he actually could do more for himself if he 1624 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,640 Speaker 4: was more authentic. I feel like this is completely inauthentic 1625 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 4: from Kevin Durant. 1626 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 5: I agree, one hundred percent, rich And the reason why 1627 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,639 Speaker 5: is because I can relate and I know I don't 1628 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 5: have I don't have a play. I'm not an NBA player, 1629 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,920 Speaker 5: I'm not a professional athlete, but I'm in the public 1630 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 5: sphere and I have been scrutinized and criticized very harshly 1631 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 5: by peers publicly on social media. 1632 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Not you guys. You guys are that's all. 1633 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 4: That's all privately, that's all. 1634 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:15,360 Speaker 5: Guys do that privately, and that's but you do it 1635 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 5: to my face, which is also appreciated. I've had it 1636 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 5: done in ways that is bullying and and it's it's 1637 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 5: you know, lies and twisting of words and narratives to 1638 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 5: make other people look good at my expense. 1639 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,720 Speaker 1: And I'm a sensitive guy. I am, I'll admit it. 1640 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,560 Speaker 5: I I you know, I had an upbringing with with 1641 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 5: two parents that were divorced, and I had a lot 1642 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,519 Speaker 5: of fighting, and I was brought up in a house 1643 01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,120 Speaker 5: that was not the most lovey, dovey, mushy household for 1644 01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 5: a child to be brought up in. My parents got 1645 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 5: divorced when I was thirteen and they were fighting from 1646 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:54,759 Speaker 5: to where I can remember. I'm also a divorce a myself, 1647 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 5: so I've been through that ringer as well. So the 1648 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,560 Speaker 5: sensitivity that I have, And to bring this back to 1649 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,680 Speaker 5: Kevin Ran and the situation happening with him, you just 1650 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,760 Speaker 5: I that's why, rich what you said makes perfect sense. 1651 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 5: He's trying to be inauthentic here, Like I'm I'm very 1652 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,400 Speaker 5: open about how yeah, you know, I'm a little bit 1653 01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 5: of a sensitive guy. If you're gonna come out and 1654 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 5: you're gonna talk smack about me publicly, I'm probably either 1655 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 5: going to absorb it or I'm going to respond to 1656 01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 5: it in some way, not through a burner. I'm not 1657 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 5: that kind of sensitive. I'll respond to it from my 1658 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,920 Speaker 5: own personal account. But I think Kevin needs to own 1659 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 5: the fact that, like I would love to hear Katie 1660 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,360 Speaker 5: come out and say, you know what, guys, it bothers 1661 01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 5: me when you say this stuff, And that doesn't mean 1662 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,000 Speaker 5: you're gonna stop saying it, because I deserve to be scrutinized. 1663 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,720 Speaker 5: When you get played at that, when you get paid 1664 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,960 Speaker 5: at the highest price point, you deserve the most scrutiny 1665 01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 5: and the most you know, people kind of questioning your abilities. 1666 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,600 Speaker 5: That's just that, that's just the you know, comes with 1667 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,160 Speaker 5: the territory of being a professional athlete getting paid millions, 1668 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,600 Speaker 5: hundreds of millions of dollars throughout your career. But I 1669 01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,400 Speaker 5: also think it's okay for him to come out during 1670 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 5: an interview and say, yeah, you know what, it bothers me. 1671 01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 5: Sometimes it really does. And I think about this stuff. 1672 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 5: I talk about it with my wife, with my friends, 1673 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 5: with my girlfriend, whatever. And I would appreciate it if 1674 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,160 Speaker 5: you guys judged me for how I play and not 1675 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,280 Speaker 5: necessarily some of the things I do off the court. 1676 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think that, Listen. 1677 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 3: I think we talk about athletes as if they react 1678 01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,920 Speaker 3: the same way to everything, and that's just not realistic. 1679 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,000 Speaker 3: Where if you look at Kevin Durant, sure there are 1680 01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 3: things where he'll receive a tweet and it might get 1681 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 3: under your skin one day, there might have been the 1682 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 3: perfect thing said and an issue that is maybe a 1683 01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 3: little bit more sensitive than others, and that touches a nerve. 1684 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,000 Speaker 3: But like for Kevin Durant to respond to this guy 1685 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,320 Speaker 3: saying is he the most hated guy right now in 1686 01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,400 Speaker 3: the NBA and he says, Hey, if that helps your experience, 1687 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 3: go for. 1688 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:51,400 Speaker 1: It, man. 1689 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that's being inauthentic. I just think that 1690 01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 3: didn't touch a nerve the way something else might have. 1691 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,800 Speaker 3: Good And that's the way you are when you're human. 1692 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we can react to we can relate to 1693 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,759 Speaker 3: that on a much smaller scale where you have Twitter trolls. 1694 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 3: No matter what you do, if you crack a mic, 1695 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,960 Speaker 3: you know, and especially if you're opinionated, some people are 1696 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 3: gonna disagree with you, and it's gonna get personal real fast. 1697 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 3: And there have been times where it's just like, hey man, 1698 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 3: it just rolls right off. Then there'll be other times 1699 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 3: where they'll say something real personal. I've been divorced as well, Jared, 1700 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,280 Speaker 3: and there have been some things said where it's like, bro, 1701 01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,800 Speaker 3: we were just talking about who's gonna win the NFC North. 1702 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 3: No reason for it to go there, but it does 1703 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 3: so pro athletes on a much greater scale and rich 1704 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,760 Speaker 3: you can attest to this. There might be that one 1705 01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 3: if you walk out on the field, you hear stuff 1706 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 3: yelled at you all the time, and a lot of 1707 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 3: it turns into white noise. Yeah, but there's that one 1708 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:53,720 Speaker 3: comment about that one family member or that one situation, 1709 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 3: and you're like, you want to go, you want to 1710 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,600 Speaker 3: go right now. And I think that Kevin Durant is 1711 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,679 Speaker 3: one of those guys. He's not gonna be the same 1712 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,360 Speaker 3: dude with every comment and react the same way. 1713 01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:04,760 Speaker 2: It's just not realistic. 1714 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,040 Speaker 4: And I'm not suggesting that's the case, but I will 1715 01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:15,240 Speaker 4: say this when somebody singles out one commentary, that's when 1716 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,599 Speaker 4: it raised his eyebrows with me, like, oh, that did 1717 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,200 Speaker 4: strike a nerve. Why would he even address it? Why 1718 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,679 Speaker 4: would he even bring more? Like we're discussing this because 1719 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:29,719 Speaker 4: of Kevin Durant's reaction, not because of the original statement made. 1720 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 4: We wouldn't have even been talking about Kevin Durant. And 1721 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 4: and you know whether he's hated or loved or his 1722 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 4: reaction to it if he didn't, if he didn't shine 1723 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,760 Speaker 4: light on this commentary, Like, that's the reason to me 1724 01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:46,120 Speaker 4: why I think this this smacks of inauthenticity that that 1725 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,560 Speaker 4: this doesn't bother him. It does, otherwise he wouldn't have 1726 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 4: brought light to it. Yeah, I mean, like you said, Brian, 1727 01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 4: like when when somebody when you have a group of 1728 01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:01,759 Speaker 4: fans of an opposing team shouting things out from behind 1729 01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,720 Speaker 4: the bench, right, and you're just sitting there and it's 1730 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 4: just it's white noise. But then all of a sudden, 1731 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:12,400 Speaker 4: somebody says something like maybe says your sister's name, Like, 1732 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 4: how the hell does that guy know my sister's name? 1733 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 4: You know, And then you turn around and you give 1734 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,640 Speaker 4: him a look. Oh you didn't like that Ornberger, you 1735 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 4: know what I mean, because that's what it is. You 1736 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,320 Speaker 4: just put a spotlight on him. Now he knows where 1737 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,560 Speaker 4: the nerve is. This is, this is the problem with 1738 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,439 Speaker 4: and look I mean I you know you want to 1739 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,680 Speaker 4: go back to childhood, Jared. Everybody's got a story, right, Like. 1740 01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,680 Speaker 4: I was a real impulsive kid and I had a 1741 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 4: learn to be a lot less reactionary in my adult life, 1742 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,720 Speaker 4: right ye Like, And it took a lot of work. 1743 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,840 Speaker 4: I met with counselors, and I thought it was something 1744 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 4: that I really struggled with. Like I was, I kind 1745 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 4: of had a hot temper and football was really a 1746 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,000 Speaker 4: great outlet for me. But outside of football, like, I 1747 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 4: really needed to get things under control, and I did. 1748 01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,640 Speaker 4: And it took a lot of work, learning how to 1749 01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,720 Speaker 4: respond to things instead of react. But every once in 1750 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,760 Speaker 4: a while, somebody puts you on tilt a little bit. 1751 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,600 Speaker 4: Somebody says something that just raises the hair on the 1752 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,280 Speaker 4: back of your neck and clenches your fists, and you 1753 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,320 Speaker 4: just have to sort of whatever mantra you have to 1754 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,960 Speaker 4: tell yourself to get back to baseline, you gotta do it. 1755 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,760 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant doesn't really have that governor, and he has 1756 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,400 Speaker 4: in his entire career, he has shined light on haters 1757 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,559 Speaker 4: and he's proven to us that what they're saying really 1758 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,840 Speaker 4: does kind of cut him deeper than skin deep. I 1759 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,880 Speaker 4: think he feels things, and like I said, so do I. 1760 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,599 Speaker 4: You know, I bare my soul on my radio show 1761 01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,040 Speaker 4: every day. I'll tell you when I'm bothered by things. 1762 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:45,200 Speaker 4: I'll tell you when I'm affected by things. Everybody knows 1763 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:50,400 Speaker 4: that feeling pretending like this one didn't hurt is ridiculous 1764 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,679 Speaker 4: because he wouldn't have responded if it didn't. 1765 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, And that was the advice I got too, 1766 01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,120 Speaker 5: Like when I was coming up through the rank, and 1767 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,200 Speaker 5: it wasn't as problematic for me earlier in my career, 1768 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 5: when I was working in northern Michigan as like a 1769 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 5: local news anchor, no one cared. But when I made 1770 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:10,920 Speaker 5: it to New York City and I started to work 1771 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 5: on more higher profile stories in a big market. 1772 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:15,840 Speaker 1: I was on local cable news. 1773 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,640 Speaker 5: I was interviewing the mayor, like people were watching, and 1774 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,920 Speaker 5: I would get comments sometimes this, and I mean, it 1775 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:21,880 Speaker 5: wouldn't happen all the time. 1776 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes they'd be positive. They wouldn't all be negative. 1777 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,000 Speaker 5: But most of the time when people comment it's negative, 1778 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,400 Speaker 5: it's very rarely positive. I would say one out of 1779 01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,840 Speaker 5: every ten is positive. And I struggled with it. I 1780 01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,120 Speaker 5: did you know, it was really the first time in 1781 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,240 Speaker 5: my career. I was in my late twenties early thirties 1782 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 5: where I was getting attention for the things that I 1783 01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:44,920 Speaker 5: was doing in my career. And when you deal with 1784 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,280 Speaker 5: the negative stuff in a way that is more internal, 1785 01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,240 Speaker 5: it bottles up and then it explodes, and then it 1786 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,800 Speaker 5: would it would lead to other things, you know, other 1787 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,760 Speaker 5: issues in my personal life, dealing with my my you know, 1788 01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,080 Speaker 5: my friends, and my family, and my my girlfriend and 1789 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 5: my ex wife. You know, those things would be difficult. 1790 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,200 Speaker 5: Then I grew up a little bit, I had some 1791 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,120 Speaker 5: other personal trauma. The pandemic happened, I lost my dad 1792 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:14,240 Speaker 5: to cancer, I got divorced. Once those personal things overshadowed 1793 01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:16,959 Speaker 5: the issues that I was Like the minor little criticism, 1794 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,880 Speaker 5: you know, critiques that I get in my daily life 1795 01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,840 Speaker 5: of my career. It put it in perspective. And I 1796 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 5: think that's where Katie is right now. Who cares that 1797 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 5: some guy doesn't like the way that you play like 1798 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,560 Speaker 5: you're getting paid how much money to play. That's what 1799 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,960 Speaker 5: I always laugh like. I get comments every day when 1800 01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,760 Speaker 5: I lose a pick. Oh, you're a square, you're this, 1801 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 5: you're you're, you're your troll, you're, you're, you're a fraud. 1802 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,360 Speaker 5: I'm getting paid to do this and you're at home 1803 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:44,760 Speaker 5: tweeting about me. That's how I rationalize it. At the 1804 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:46,400 Speaker 5: end of the day, with the critique that I get 1805 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,400 Speaker 5: about my job, Kevin Durant needs to find a way 1806 01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:52,600 Speaker 5: to internalize it in a more healthy way. You are 1807 01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,679 Speaker 5: getting paid hundreds of million dollars to play a sport 1808 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 5: that everyone else at home is watching and wishing that 1809 01:33:58,479 --> 01:33:59,160 Speaker 5: they could play. 1810 01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,400 Speaker 1: If they're tweeting at you, it's because they're jealous of you, Kevin. 1811 01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:09,639 Speaker 5: They don't talk crap about nobody's They talk about people 1812 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,599 Speaker 5: that are in higher status that they achieve and they 1813 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 5: want to be That's the way you have to look 1814 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:16,880 Speaker 5: at it, like they want to be me. 1815 01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,160 Speaker 1: That's why they're tweeting about me. So, if anything, that's 1816 01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:21,120 Speaker 1: what he should have said. 1817 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,559 Speaker 5: And it would have made it a little more authentic, 1818 01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,000 Speaker 5: I think, because I do think this stuff does get 1819 01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,720 Speaker 5: to him, and the burner stuff really is kind of 1820 01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:29,599 Speaker 5: the tell there. 1821 01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:34,160 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is it'say interesting discussion. 1822 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,880 Speaker 3: But the Burner account with KD, I think that once 1823 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,840 Speaker 3: you're thought of one way, it's really hard to be 1824 01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,599 Speaker 3: thought of another way. And there was a time where 1825 01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,400 Speaker 3: he was trying to hide it. He was going back 1826 01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,559 Speaker 3: and forth with these Twitter trolls, but he was trying 1827 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,600 Speaker 3: to do it anonymously and that was exposed. And so 1828 01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,559 Speaker 3: I think he's in a different place right now where 1829 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 3: I think he was at one time ultra sensitive. Right now, 1830 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,240 Speaker 3: I just think that he doesn't mind going back and 1831 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,840 Speaker 3: forth with p And the thing that's interesting to me 1832 01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:06,120 Speaker 3: is if he was doing this on the court the 1833 01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,559 Speaker 3: same way he's doing it on social media, it would 1834 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,320 Speaker 3: largely be taken differently. Where if you look at Lebron James, 1835 01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,439 Speaker 3: I remember Lebron playing a game on the road against 1836 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,680 Speaker 3: Detroit and some fan was giving him the business and 1837 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,800 Speaker 3: he stopped. He basically stopped the game and approached this 1838 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,439 Speaker 3: fan and said, you can say whatever you want about me, 1839 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,200 Speaker 3: leave my family out of it. If that was a tweet, 1840 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 3: somehow it'd be taken differently. But the way you see 1841 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,680 Speaker 3: it on the court and it just lands differently. So 1842 01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,960 Speaker 3: I think that's part of it with KD is just 1843 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,600 Speaker 3: the social media thing, and because he once had a 1844 01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,679 Speaker 3: burner account, he's thought of as the same guy who's 1845 01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:50,120 Speaker 3: overly sensitive. He said this recently on Twitter. He said 1846 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:54,000 Speaker 3: hate drives me too much. Love will kill you. That's 1847 01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,280 Speaker 3: why he's saying that he goes back and forth with 1848 01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:01,519 Speaker 3: some of these trolls, that it starts to help his game, 1849 01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,840 Speaker 3: which says maybe that's fair, you know. 1850 01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,960 Speaker 4: So, Yeah, I don't know you, Bud. 1851 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what fans out about him. 1852 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,479 Speaker 4: He pokes fun at himself too, Like like on one 1853 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,880 Speaker 4: of his most recent tweets, because we were talking about 1854 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 4: I went to his Twitter is he he said, I'm 1855 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,200 Speaker 4: on I'm on threads with a burner Come fine. 1856 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah that was that was one of the best tweets 1857 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,120 Speaker 3: I think he's ever set out. Yeah, that's what it 1858 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,360 Speaker 3: boils down to is does this help you? If you're 1859 01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,960 Speaker 3: going toe to toe with trolls and that helps your fans, 1860 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,160 Speaker 3: you don't explanation to anyone else why it helps you. 1861 01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:37,680 Speaker 1: You can just be like, this is what I like 1862 01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:38,439 Speaker 1: to do. Deal with it. 1863 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I just feel like I just feel like 1864 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:47,120 Speaker 4: when you are singling out one article writer or one 1865 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 4: reply in your in your feed, or one tweet that 1866 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,680 Speaker 4: you've been you know, your your account was attached to 1867 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,920 Speaker 4: and and you are you are singling that person or 1868 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:04,599 Speaker 4: that commentary out because again, for the most part, these 1869 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 4: are people Kevin will never meet. These are people who 1870 01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:12,519 Speaker 4: probably don't really care about Kevin Durant, you know what 1871 01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,760 Speaker 4: I mean, and may have even been surprised that he 1872 01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,000 Speaker 4: engaged with them on Twitter or social media. You know, 1873 01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:21,960 Speaker 4: It's just it's so bizarre to me to single out 1874 01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:28,679 Speaker 4: one commentary and then act like, yeah, like I don't care. 1875 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,800 Speaker 4: It's like, well, if you didn't, that's not true. You 1876 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,680 Speaker 4: cared enough to spend the mental bandwidth when you have 1877 01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,880 Speaker 4: millions other things going on in your life to handle, 1878 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,599 Speaker 4: to deal with, you did care enough to respond to it. Yeah, 1879 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,000 Speaker 4: And so it's just again. 1880 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,360 Speaker 5: That's the inauthentic part is by saying, ah, no big deal, 1881 01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,320 Speaker 5: Well just by acknowledging it, you're making it a big deal. 1882 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:51,640 Speaker 4: Right. 1883 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,120 Speaker 2: You know what I think this is like is it's 1884 01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:57,160 Speaker 2: like parlay bets. Okay, now follow me on this one. 1885 01:37:57,240 --> 01:38:01,160 Speaker 3: Okay, you want to dabble in parlay bets, Okay, you 1886 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,920 Speaker 3: don't want to go to the well too often because 1887 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:04,920 Speaker 3: it's no way to live. 1888 01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,920 Speaker 2: You know, what do you say, A little sprinkle, Jared? 1889 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:08,559 Speaker 2: Is that what you said? 1890 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,639 Speaker 3: A little sprinkle, a little sprinkle on the on the parlace. 1891 01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:15,000 Speaker 3: I think that's the way it is. Engaging with Twitter trolls. Okay, 1892 01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:16,800 Speaker 3: you don't want to do this on a day in, 1893 01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,760 Speaker 3: day out basis. If you engage every now and a 1894 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,160 Speaker 3: little sprinkle, little sprinkle tweet here and there, that's fine. 1895 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:24,280 Speaker 2: It might help your game. 1896 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,840 Speaker 3: I can't imagine it's helping your life, you know, like 1897 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,720 Speaker 3: you don't want to go toe to toe with negativity 1898 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,400 Speaker 3: because these people have all the time in the world. 1899 01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 3: They will go point counterpoint until the end of time, right, 1900 01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,280 Speaker 3: So I think it's like a parlay bet, little dabble 1901 01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,400 Speaker 3: here and there, that's fine. But to do it and 1902 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,040 Speaker 3: engage over and over and over again, I think he's 1903 01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:44,920 Speaker 3: just gonna drag you down totally. 1904 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:46,640 Speaker 5: There's only so much time of the day. He's got 1905 01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:49,400 Speaker 5: to work out, he's got family, he's got basketball. 1906 01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I just feel look for this is 1907 01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,960 Speaker 4: coming from somebody who thinks Kevin Durant is like like 1908 01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:01,519 Speaker 4: an awesome basketball player and also his personality. I really 1909 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,679 Speaker 4: I really liked the conversation he did with David Letterman. 1910 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,200 Speaker 4: Uh when he went on that show on Netflix. You know, 1911 01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,000 Speaker 4: I got to learn more about him and and hear 1912 01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 4: like some of his personal thoughts. I mean, it was 1913 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,759 Speaker 4: it was a longer form than we're used to hearing 1914 01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,680 Speaker 4: from him, and I thought he's an interesting guy and 1915 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,519 Speaker 4: and like, I like from a personal standpoint, I I 1916 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,400 Speaker 4: like him. I like what I heard from him, and 1917 01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,920 Speaker 4: and he seemed very authentic there. I just I just 1918 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:34,599 Speaker 4: look at anybody who is pretending to be John Wayne, 1919 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,920 Speaker 4: you know, like, nah, I'm a tough guy. You can't 1920 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,559 Speaker 4: hurt me with your words, you know, send your slings 1921 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,640 Speaker 4: and arrows. Meanwhile, you know, behind the scenes, they're like, 1922 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,439 Speaker 4: you know what, Yeah, actually that one stung a little bit. 1923 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:49,120 Speaker 4: That's that's how this this read to me. And I 1924 01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,759 Speaker 4: don't know, it's just it's just interesting. It's just interesting 1925 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,679 Speaker 4: when you're singling out one commentary and you're acting like, yeah, 1926 01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,599 Speaker 4: but that didn't hurt my feelings. You could say whatever 1927 01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,280 Speaker 4: you want, but well then why didn't Why why did 1928 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,679 Speaker 4: you single out that one? There are tons of haters 1929 01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:06,000 Speaker 4: out there. 1930 01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:07,040 Speaker 1: The culture we live in. 1931 01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,920 Speaker 5: It's like it's everyone's too proud to admit they have feelings, 1932 01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:12,040 Speaker 5: Like it makes no sense to me, Like that is. 1933 01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:15,719 Speaker 1: Where I struggled early on in my life. Just admitting 1934 01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,040 Speaker 1: that you had the feelings. 1935 01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,719 Speaker 5: Once you admit that you have them, you can easily 1936 01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,639 Speaker 5: deal with them and internalize them and use an outlet 1937 01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:22,920 Speaker 5: for them. 1938 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:24,680 Speaker 1: Therapy helps. That's I think. 1939 01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,799 Speaker 2: That's Jared Smith. He's Ben's a Penn State All American. 1940 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 3: He's the f Yeah analyst over here, I'm Brian no American. 1941 01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:35,800 Speaker 3: It's rich Oornberger, the Penn State All American. Maven on 1942 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,840 Speaker 3: the grill, I'm Brian No, I'm Burn Steaks. That's all 1943 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,559 Speaker 3: I got for you. Coming up next, we got two 1944 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 3: guys named Jordan that are in two very different positions. 1945 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,680 Speaker 3: Right now we'll explain. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here 1946 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,879 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in. It's Fox Sports Saturday. 1947 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,080 Speaker 3: Here on Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to your live 1948 01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 3: from the tire rack dot Com studios. 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This is 1954 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:14,639 Speaker 2: unbelievable here. 1955 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,679 Speaker 3: So Nike, they're doing pretty well with the Jordan land, 1956 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,000 Speaker 3: the Jordan line over there, right, the Jordan brand mule 1957 01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:28,479 Speaker 3: sales there, Okay, two five point one billion dollars just 1958 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:32,400 Speaker 3: for the Jordan brand in twenty twenty two. And so 1959 01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:39,320 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan taking home five percent in royalties, he makes 1960 01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,080 Speaker 3: about two hundred and fifty five million dollars on an 1961 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,200 Speaker 3: annual basis. 1962 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:45,280 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 1963 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 3: And that's almost three times more than his career NBA earnings, 1964 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,519 Speaker 3: which is ninety four million dollars. He's making almost three 1965 01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:58,080 Speaker 3: times on an annual basis just from shoe royalties. 1966 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:02,160 Speaker 2: That is unbelo and good for him. That's that's great. 1967 01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,120 Speaker 2: And that movie Air is sensational by the way. 1968 01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:06,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree. 1969 01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:10,599 Speaker 3: Think about that he made a third in his entire 1970 01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:14,280 Speaker 3: career playing basketball compared to what he makes on a 1971 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:18,400 Speaker 3: yearly basis with the Jordan brand. That that is mind 1972 01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 3: blowing stuff right there. Yeah, I I I'm it's unfathomable. 1973 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:29,160 Speaker 3: How much more popular Michael Jordan is as a cultural 1974 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:33,680 Speaker 3: icon than he was as a athlete, because he was, 1975 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:38,240 Speaker 3: at one time in my childhood, the greatest athlete on 1976 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:42,040 Speaker 3: the planet. So it's it's bonkers to imagine somebody being 1977 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 3: that successful at one thing and then becoming inarguably far 1978 01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 3: more successful at another. He I mean, he's he's a 1979 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:56,080 Speaker 3: better businessman than he was a basketball player. It does 1980 01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,200 Speaker 3: not seem possible, but it's true. The only thing he's 1981 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,160 Speaker 3: not good at his own NBA. 1982 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:03,040 Speaker 1: That is true. 1983 01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,840 Speaker 2: He still made huge money on that too, you know, 1984 01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:07,040 Speaker 2: so yeah that's it. 1985 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he did. But unfortunately the Hornets I don't 1986 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:11,760 Speaker 1: think he left them better than he found them. 1987 01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:13,120 Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's true. 1988 01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,040 Speaker 3: They didn't win one series and what was it, thirteen 1989 01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:19,720 Speaker 3: years roughly, yeah, twelve thirteen years. 1990 01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 2: That come on, man, gotta be better than that. 1991 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,760 Speaker 3: I remember Lawrence Taylor being miked up one time and 1992 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:26,880 Speaker 3: he hit the quarterback and he looked down and he goes, son, 1993 01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:28,439 Speaker 3: y'all got to do better than this. 1994 01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,479 Speaker 5: Kind of smack talk where he's trying to actually make 1995 01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,639 Speaker 5: you play better, because listen, you're not on my level. 1996 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,040 Speaker 1: You come on picking up guys. I need some competition. 1997 01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:41,479 Speaker 3: Today, So we go from Michael Jordan to another Jordan 1998 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,640 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers quarterback. 1999 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,559 Speaker 2: And so we talked about Tampa Bay. 2000 01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,719 Speaker 3: A little bit earlier in the show where Carlton Davis, 2001 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:54,560 Speaker 3: the cornerback, is talking about a super Bowl on the 2002 01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:58,160 Speaker 3: heels of losing. Tom Brady, I think Green Bay is 2003 01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,479 Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay of the North. Both teams were eight 2004 01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:05,880 Speaker 3: and nine. Both teams lost legendary quarterbacks. They're not going 2005 01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,280 Speaker 3: to improve. Okay, and Jordan Love, who has eighty three 2006 01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:15,080 Speaker 3: career passing attempts in the NFL, throwing two completely inexperienced guys, 2007 01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,519 Speaker 3: either second year receivers or a bunch of rookies. Your 2008 01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:20,720 Speaker 3: two tight ends are rookies. Your slot receiver is a 2009 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,080 Speaker 3: rookie like it's second year guys in rookies. 2010 01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,880 Speaker 2: With the dude that's thrown eighty three passing. 2011 01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,920 Speaker 3: Attempts like I've got, I'm pounding the under seven and 2012 01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:32,320 Speaker 3: a half win total for the Packers. 2013 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:34,160 Speaker 2: You like the under seven and a half? 2014 01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,960 Speaker 4: I think I do because I have a lot of 2015 01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,560 Speaker 4: respect for the Minnesota Vikings. Kevin O'Connell going into his 2016 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,120 Speaker 4: second year as a head coach. I think he did 2017 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,920 Speaker 4: a lot of good for the culture. I think he's 2018 01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,679 Speaker 4: gotten more out of Kirk Cousins than we've seen in years. 2019 01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,760 Speaker 4: And then when you look at the Detroit Lions, they're 2020 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:58,200 Speaker 4: no easy out. They improved their secondary, they improved their 2021 01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,680 Speaker 4: cornerback position. Most importantly, they got a little squirrelly in 2022 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,040 Speaker 4: the draft. I like what they did defensively in the 2023 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,599 Speaker 4: first round. I did not look like what they did 2024 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:10,360 Speaker 4: offensively in the first round. I think they probably put 2025 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:12,559 Speaker 4: way too much value on Gibbs to take them where 2026 01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,479 Speaker 4: they grabbed them. But who knows, maybe he becomes a 2027 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,840 Speaker 4: playmaker out of that offense that was highly productive last season. 2028 01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,360 Speaker 4: So those are two teams that I put ahead in 2029 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:26,400 Speaker 4: the vision over the Green Bay Packers and the Bears. Look, 2030 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,040 Speaker 4: when you have a dual threat quarterback like Justin Fields, 2031 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,840 Speaker 4: you could beat anyone in the league on any given 2032 01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,720 Speaker 4: Sunday because he can go off. I mean that's real. 2033 01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:41,439 Speaker 4: He's a real threat as an athlete. And so yeah, 2034 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,840 Speaker 4: I look at the Packers. I wouldn't call them a 2035 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,240 Speaker 4: complete mess because I have no idea if Jordan Love 2036 01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,920 Speaker 4: can really hack it at this level. But he's not 2037 01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,679 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. We know that like they will be worse 2038 01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,479 Speaker 4: at quarterback. There's no questioning that they will be worse 2039 01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,639 Speaker 4: at quarterback. And they weren't a particularly great team last year, 2040 01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,800 Speaker 4: so I think the Packers are going to struggle. I 2041 01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,000 Speaker 4: would take the under all day long. 2042 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would lean under. 2043 01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,800 Speaker 5: I think back to Aari, you know, he's been injured 2044 01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,320 Speaker 5: a bunch, and the offensive line is gonna need to 2045 01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,920 Speaker 5: be that much better in front of Jordan Love this year, 2046 01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,160 Speaker 5: and I think the weapons maybe you get a year 2047 01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,760 Speaker 5: of development from Watson and Dobbs, who looked pretty good 2048 01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 5: last year. And if it's not Jordan Love, it's Sean 2049 01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,519 Speaker 5: Clifford the backup for the Packers this year, so they 2050 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,000 Speaker 5: really need And I love Sean Clifford, I absolutely love 2051 01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,599 Speaker 5: him all heart, but I just I don't see him 2052 01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,160 Speaker 5: having success in his rookie year in the NFL. 2053 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,479 Speaker 1: And that's the second string in Green Bay right now. 2054 01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,320 Speaker 5: But if you were gonna ask me grade the Bays, 2055 01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,599 Speaker 5: I would say the Bay of Pigs has a stronger 2056 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:46,519 Speaker 5: success rate than Tampa Bay or Green Bay this year 2057 01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,400 Speaker 5: in terms of upside, winning a division, winning a super Bowl, 2058 01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:50,360 Speaker 5: getting to the playoffs. 2059 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough, man, 2060 01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:55,719 Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough. 2061 01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:57,479 Speaker 1: Tough year for both team games transition. 2062 01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,519 Speaker 2: I look at it where Aaron Rodgers he went. 2063 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:04,120 Speaker 3: He was a back to back MVP, and his numbers 2064 01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,000 Speaker 3: greatly took a step back last season. 2065 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:07,760 Speaker 2: Why was that? 2066 01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,000 Speaker 3: Well, he lost Avontae Adams and he was thrown to 2067 01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:16,080 Speaker 3: a bunch of rookies. Like if Aaron Rodgers' numbers greatly dwindled, 2068 01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,479 Speaker 3: what am I supposed to think a guy who's thrown 2069 01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:22,080 Speaker 3: eighty three attempts, he's throwing eighty three passes in the NFL? 2070 01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:23,880 Speaker 2: What am I supposed to think that guy's gonna do? 2071 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,040 Speaker 3: He's gonna hit the ground running and surpass Rogers out 2072 01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,519 Speaker 3: of the gate like it's I think it's gonna be. 2073 01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,880 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a rood of rake awakening, a rude awakening, 2074 01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:40,120 Speaker 3: like Carl Davis said. Carlton Davis said about the teams out. Yeah, 2075 01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:43,439 Speaker 3: for the base over there, all right, we've got Isaac 2076 01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:47,479 Speaker 3: Loh and Kron No root awakening, just pleasantries and information 2077 01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:48,439 Speaker 3: mixed with style. 2078 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:49,960 Speaker 2: I Low, what's going on? Buddy? 2079 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,920 Speaker 8: Kind of like you with that Bay of Pigs reference 2080 01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:56,280 Speaker 8: that was you like that that was impressive that was 2081 01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:02,560 Speaker 8: plucked out of yesteryear, but absolutely right on. Hopefully that 2082 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:06,200 Speaker 8: will not precipitate another Cuban missile crisis. In the world 2083 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 8: of sports, we had a crisis of sorts in NBA 2084 01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:14,519 Speaker 8: Summer League in Vegas because the number one overall pick 2085 01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,080 Speaker 8: went two out of thirteen from the field. 2086 01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:18,280 Speaker 6: Ye gads. 2087 01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,120 Speaker 8: Of course it was Victor woman Yama in his debut 2088 01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,960 Speaker 8: with San Antonio and their seventy sixty eight victory over 2089 01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,320 Speaker 8: Charlotte on Friday night. He finished with nine points on 2090 01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,400 Speaker 8: that two out of thirteen shooting from the field, however, 2091 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:36,120 Speaker 8: eight rebounds, three assists, and five blocked shots for Wembin Yama. 2092 01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,799 Speaker 8: Here was his take on his summer league debut. 2093 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,200 Speaker 9: We're going a lot. We won this game, so that's 2094 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,640 Speaker 9: three zero for us, and uh yeah, you know, we 2095 01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,040 Speaker 9: just got to get a documated to a new kind 2096 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,320 Speaker 9: of things. Didn't aclimate because it was my first time, 2097 01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:53,559 Speaker 9: So next time, I'm a Divennor and I'll. 2098 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:54,240 Speaker 1: Keep decide every time. 2099 01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,960 Speaker 8: We have some free agency news. On this Saturday morning, 2100 01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:01,080 Speaker 8: multiple outlets reporting Philadelphia seventy six erssh stricted free agent 2101 01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,280 Speaker 8: forward Paul Reid has signed a three year, twenty three 2102 01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:07,519 Speaker 8: million dollar offer sheet with the Utah Jazz. Sixers have 2103 01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:11,639 Speaker 8: until midnight tomorrow to match. Free agent forward Dario Sarich 2104 01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,360 Speaker 8: has agreed to a one year deal with the Golden 2105 01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,680 Speaker 8: State Warriors. In Major League Baseball. On Friday night, the 2106 01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,360 Speaker 8: New York Mets won in San Diego in ten innings, 2107 01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,920 Speaker 8: seven to five. Jeff McNeil the go ahead RBI double 2108 01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 8: to lead off the top of the tenth. The Mets 2109 01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:28,080 Speaker 8: have won sixth straight. The Dodgers hit five home runs 2110 01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,479 Speaker 8: in an eleven to four win over the Angels, two 2111 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,920 Speaker 8: of the home runs by Mookie Betts. In a matchup 2112 01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:34,920 Speaker 8: between the teams with the two best records in the 2113 01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,559 Speaker 8: major leagues, the Atlanta Braves won a Tampa Bay two 2114 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,160 Speaker 8: to one thanks to Sean Murphy's to run home run 2115 01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:41,880 Speaker 8: in the top of the fourth. The Braves have won 2116 01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,280 Speaker 8: nineteen of twenty one. Tampa Bay on a six game 2117 01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,840 Speaker 8: losing streak, and the Philadelphia Phillies one in Miami four 2118 01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:51,960 Speaker 8: to three. Christian Pace a two run pinch hit home 2119 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,320 Speaker 8: run in the top of the ninth inting. The Phillies 2120 01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:58,560 Speaker 8: have now won thirteen consecutive road games. Tyme of franchise 2121 01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,200 Speaker 8: record fellas back to Thanks I Loo. 2122 01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,320 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Saturday. Here on Fox Sports Radio. 2123 01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,920 Speaker 3: We were talking about the most scrutinized NBA player and 2124 01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:11,880 Speaker 3: the way I low started off as update wem Bin 2125 01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,720 Speaker 3: Yama two for thirteen. By the way, your metal fun 2126 01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,920 Speaker 3: Fact of the Day two thirteen is a song from 2127 01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:22,759 Speaker 3: Slayer I digress, But I think it's wem Ben Yama. 2128 01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:27,000 Speaker 3: No one's under the microscope more, under the magnifying glass more. 2129 01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,439 Speaker 3: Not just right now because it's Summer League, but throughout 2130 01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,880 Speaker 3: the season, when the season gets underway, I think it's 2131 01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:34,840 Speaker 3: going to be wem Bin Yama at the top of 2132 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:35,439 Speaker 3: that list. 2133 01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:37,280 Speaker 2: Bo Benzon, our trusted producer. 2134 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:41,320 Speaker 3: He texted the group with Anthony Davis, who is certainly 2135 01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,280 Speaker 3: highly scrutinized. You can make an argument for him. I 2136 01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:46,680 Speaker 3: would go Wemby this season if we should. 2137 01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,519 Speaker 1: Win the regular games start. 2138 01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:51,840 Speaker 3: Brian, Yeah, absolutely, especially when the regular season games start, 2139 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:56,240 Speaker 3: because the hype train is unbelievable for this guy. We 2140 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,120 Speaker 3: haven't had this since Lebron and it's even greater now 2141 01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,080 Speaker 3: because of social media and the way we interact with 2142 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,880 Speaker 3: each other now. So yeah, I think when the games 2143 01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:08,120 Speaker 3: start counting for real, He's absolutely gonna be under the 2144 01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,200 Speaker 3: microscope at least the first portion of the season. I 2145 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,240 Speaker 3: know they're gonna lose a ton of games and that's 2146 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,040 Speaker 3: gonna fade a little bit. But again with yeah, I 2147 01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,519 Speaker 3: think he's at the top of the list. The question, though, becomes, 2148 01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,240 Speaker 3: who do you think is the most scrutinized player in 2149 01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 3: the NFL right now? I would throw my two cents 2150 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,560 Speaker 3: in for Dak Prescott. You think about the way the 2151 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 3: season ended last year, two interceptions against the forty nine ers. 2152 01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:37,439 Speaker 3: He's a quarterback for America's team. Is it Dak or 2153 01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:40,600 Speaker 3: is it Romo? Who's the better cowboy quarterback? Until he 2154 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:45,440 Speaker 3: wins huge in the playoffs? I think he's the most scrutinized. 2155 01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,040 Speaker 3: I think on a week to week basis, he would 2156 01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:49,800 Speaker 3: be at the top of the list. You could make 2157 01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,720 Speaker 3: an argument for someone else, but I would say it's 2158 01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:52,560 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. 2159 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,880 Speaker 4: I would argue Aaron Rodgers, and I think he brings 2160 01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,360 Speaker 4: a lot of the scrutiny onto himself. I think if 2161 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:03,799 Speaker 4: he was a quieter superstar quarterback, we probably he probably 2162 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:10,080 Speaker 4: wouldn't receive the fury of fans who really I think 2163 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:13,000 Speaker 4: are just fans of the NFL and and you know 2164 01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:17,360 Speaker 4: they probably wouldn't pick sides on Green Bay quarterback whether 2165 01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,040 Speaker 4: or not he has the goods. But it's just the 2166 01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:23,280 Speaker 4: fact that he injects himself into the public eye so 2167 01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:27,000 Speaker 4: often that he becomes the target of a lot of ridicule. 2168 01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,639 Speaker 4: I think it's Aaron Rodgers. I think he's the most 2169 01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:33,240 Speaker 4: criticized and scrutinized quarterback in the league right now or 2170 01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,160 Speaker 4: player period, and. 2171 01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:39,400 Speaker 1: A lot of it he brings on himself the Wemby hype. 2172 01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:42,479 Speaker 5: I think the fact that the basketball season starts in 2173 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,080 Speaker 5: the middle of football season will help him fly under. 2174 01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:45,680 Speaker 1: The radar a little bit. 2175 01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:48,320 Speaker 5: You're right, in the basketball circles he will be highly scrutinized, 2176 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:51,519 Speaker 5: but nationally right now, we have nothing else to talk 2177 01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:54,680 Speaker 5: about other than Wemby and Britney Spears. And that's why 2178 01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,920 Speaker 5: I think right now everyone's focus is on what's happening 2179 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,519 Speaker 5: in Vegas with the summer. I do think if the 2180 01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:05,679 Speaker 5: Spurs are very irrelevant this year after those first few games, 2181 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:06,759 Speaker 5: I think it'll. 2182 01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:08,920 Speaker 1: Be not as hyped as it is now. 2183 01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,240 Speaker 5: NFL side, I agree one hundred percent on Dak and 2184 01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,479 Speaker 5: it's not as much Dak as the team he plays for. 2185 01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:18,560 Speaker 5: Any other player in that spot playing quarterback for that 2186 01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:22,040 Speaker 5: team would likely be scrutinized. Tony Romo was in the 2187 01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,960 Speaker 5: same ilk. I agree one hundred percent on Aaron Rodgers too. 2188 01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:28,760 Speaker 5: I think that's one A, one B. I'll throw you 2189 01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,360 Speaker 5: one wild card curveball that maybe you chew on, and 2190 01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:35,479 Speaker 5: it's because of what's happening off the field. 2191 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:36,679 Speaker 1: With him, and that's Lamar Jackson. 2192 01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,599 Speaker 5: We were scrutinizing him about his agent and not having 2193 01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,840 Speaker 5: one like and that that's a life choice, right. We 2194 01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,559 Speaker 5: talk about the other guys football and Aaron Rodgers really 2195 01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:48,880 Speaker 5: out there in the media, and maybe we scrutinize him 2196 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:50,840 Speaker 5: for that, But you're right, Richie brings that on himself. 2197 01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,559 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson didn't ask for any of the smoke about 2198 01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,679 Speaker 5: his life decision to not hire an agent. He feels 2199 01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:58,679 Speaker 5: more comfortable with his family doing it and his mom, 2200 01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:03,680 Speaker 5: but we were scizing that. Everyone was was criticizing him 2201 01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,240 Speaker 5: for that move. So I think Lamar Jackson's in the 2202 01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:10,360 Speaker 5: same stratosphere. But because of the team that that Dak 2203 01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:13,439 Speaker 5: plays for and the personality that Aaron Rodgers has become 2204 01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:14,680 Speaker 5: I think those guys are a. 2205 01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:15,360 Speaker 1: Little bit ahead. 2206 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:15,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2207 01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:18,960 Speaker 3: By the way, we got to mention this because you 2208 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,640 Speaker 3: texted the group, Jared, and it was great. How scrutiny 2209 01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:27,479 Speaker 3: can fade really fast. Remember when Jamar Chase, the Bengals 2210 01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:31,120 Speaker 3: wide receiver, was jumping dropping a bunch of passes in 2211 01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,720 Speaker 3: training camp when he was a rookie. He's a boss, 2212 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:38,080 Speaker 3: but yet, Sul, why would they drafted? 2213 01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,560 Speaker 2: And Jamar Chase has turned out to be a. 2214 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,120 Speaker 3: Stud in the receiver in the league. So you could 2215 01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:46,879 Speaker 3: apply that to Wemby. I think some of the scrutiny 2216 01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,040 Speaker 3: right now, here's two for thirteen. Did you see his 2217 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:53,080 Speaker 3: photo shoot Jumpers Like, Yeah, I think that's. 2218 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,120 Speaker 1: Gonna be Speers. 2219 01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:58,520 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna fade and Jamar Chase like fashion 2220 01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:01,000 Speaker 3: for Wemby, I think he's to be fantastic. 2221 01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. I could see it more easily trending that way, 2222 01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:06,920 Speaker 4: that he's going to improve and improve and improve, and 2223 01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:08,800 Speaker 4: he's going to be a dominant force in the NBA 2224 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,680 Speaker 4: as opposed to a bus like in the room. 2225 01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,000 Speaker 1: Rich, get him on the Ornburger workout plan, get him 2226 01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:15,560 Speaker 1: bulked up. 2227 01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,600 Speaker 4: We could get him, we could get him fired up 2228 01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:18,320 Speaker 4: him in there. 2229 01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, what if this is the new rage. 2230 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,839 Speaker 3: What if you think about Wemby, you think about chet Holmgren, 2231 01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:27,840 Speaker 3: who you'll see? What the thunder this? What if and 2232 01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,040 Speaker 3: embiid have to slim down and this is the new way. 2233 01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:34,120 Speaker 3: You gotta be slim like home Grin and when maybe 2234 01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:39,920 Speaker 3: bean Stock Durant work for Durant, Yeah Durant really well yeah, 2235 01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:42,720 Speaker 3: I can't imagine the slim reaper Stock. 2236 01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine him that slim. 2237 01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:46,440 Speaker 4: All right. 2238 01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:50,240 Speaker 3: Uh that's rich ooin Berger, Penn State, All American. He uh, 2239 01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,160 Speaker 3: I swear he's done a lot of skull crushers in 2240 01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:58,680 Speaker 3: his time to bang the tries boys, coffee and triceps. 2241 01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:02,960 Speaker 2: That's right. Jared uh Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No. 2242 01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:08,200 Speaker 3: Coming up next, we get you some gambling picks and man, 2243 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:12,240 Speaker 3: this story went from bad to good real fast. It 2244 01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:15,040 Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. 2245 01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:16,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. 2246 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,960 Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday live from the tire rack dot 2247 01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:22,360 Speaker 3: Com studios here on Fox Sports Radio. We're brought to 2248 01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,720 Speaker 3: you by a Progressive insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. 2249 01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:29,160 Speaker 3: Get a multi policy discount. By combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, 2250 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,680 Speaker 3: at V and more all your protection in one place, 2251 01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:36,560 Speaker 3: bundling save at Progressive dot Com. Shout out to the crew, 2252 01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:40,400 Speaker 3: Bo Benzon our trusted producer Alex ty Shirt slumming it 2253 01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:41,440 Speaker 3: on the weekends. 2254 01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:46,640 Speaker 2: What happened? Yeah, don't remind me, all right, many guy? 2255 01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:52,000 Speaker 5: Oh yes, whenever the weekday guy gets moved to the weekend, 2256 01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:53,560 Speaker 5: something terribly wrong had to have have. 2257 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's not thrilled to be here. We we 2258 01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:59,120 Speaker 4: spoke about it earlier today the rest. 2259 01:56:59,000 --> 01:56:59,400 Speaker 1: Of the time. 2260 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:03,640 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much. Burger Dates. 2261 01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:05,040 Speaker 1: I never heard anyone call you that before. 2262 01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:08,400 Speaker 2: Isaac Lowenkron crushed it. 2263 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,440 Speaker 3: Mister Berger, I like it coming up top of the hour, 2264 01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:16,240 Speaker 3: up on game, Levari Arrington, T J. Huschman, Zada, You're 2265 01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:19,280 Speaker 3: in great hands. Keep it locked here on FSR. By 2266 01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:23,640 Speaker 3: the way, a great ending to a tough story. Foster 2267 01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:26,360 Speaker 3: Moreau's one of my favorite stories of the entire week. 2268 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,960 Speaker 3: Saints tight end. So there was a routine team physical 2269 01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,800 Speaker 3: in March. It led to a discovery that he had 2270 01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:38,560 Speaker 3: Hodgkins lynphoma. He had cancer, and so he initially failed 2271 01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:42,280 Speaker 3: his physical, but the Saints signed him anyway, they signed 2272 01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,960 Speaker 3: him to a three year deal, eight million dollars guaranteed, 2273 01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,320 Speaker 3: and Moreau announced this week that he's in. 2274 01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:49,960 Speaker 2: Full remission from cancer. 2275 01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:53,800 Speaker 3: I love the great story, Wow, but man to fight 2276 01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,600 Speaker 3: through it and for the Saints right to say, hey, 2277 01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:58,840 Speaker 3: we think the prognosis is good enough, we're still going 2278 01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,200 Speaker 3: to offer you a deal. And now here he is 2279 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:02,600 Speaker 3: getting set for the season. 2280 01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:03,200 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 2281 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:04,320 Speaker 1: Great culture down there in. 2282 01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,920 Speaker 5: New Orleans, the Katrina stuff and I'll you know post 2283 01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:10,160 Speaker 5: that they you know, really good culture there with the Saints. 2284 01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:10,920 Speaker 2: Amen. 2285 01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:14,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, all right, let's get into some gambling pick, shall we? 2286 01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:17,760 Speaker 3: What do you think in today, Jared? Are you scouring 2287 01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:18,960 Speaker 3: the nurfy lines? 2288 01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:19,120 Speaker 2: Here? 2289 01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 4: You know it? 2290 01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:24,920 Speaker 5: Here we go early Nurfy's Baltimore, Minnesota, Chicago, New York Cubs, Yanks, 2291 01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:29,120 Speaker 5: and then also Blue Jays Tigers. George Springer just went 2292 01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,520 Speaker 5: on paternity to leave. Congratulations George. But that means you're 2293 01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:33,400 Speaker 5: not hitting lead off for the Blue Jay. So I'll 2294 01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:39,000 Speaker 5: take the nurfy in the James Tigers, Gabe. And then 2295 01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:43,120 Speaker 5: also I'll give you one for Monday Night the home 2296 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,919 Speaker 5: run derby. Yeah, you mean Mookie Bets in the matchup 2297 01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:50,880 Speaker 5: over Vlad Guerrero Junior. I saw Mooki and pitching coach 2298 01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,080 Speaker 5: or actually, excuse me, first base coach Clay McCall, who's 2299 01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:56,480 Speaker 5: going to be pitching to Mooki in the derby going over? 2300 01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,200 Speaker 5: Go look up this video on Twitter going over pitch 2301 01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,920 Speaker 5: location where Mookie likes it. And I'll be honest, Flat 2302 01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,640 Speaker 5: hasn't had a great year. Looks a little bit banged up, 2303 01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:05,680 Speaker 5: not quite with it. 2304 01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:06,640 Speaker 1: Give me Mookie. 2305 01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:08,880 Speaker 5: He's almost a two to one underdog to beat Blad 2306 01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:10,320 Speaker 5: in the first round of the home run Derby. 2307 01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,960 Speaker 4: Wow, I love it. A little home run derby odds 2308 01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:17,000 Speaker 4: are all right. I'm gonna take the under on the 2309 01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:20,880 Speaker 4: total runs in the Padres Mets game today. I am 2310 01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,520 Speaker 4: three of the last four winning these. 2311 01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:26,760 Speaker 2: The only one you lost is when I backed you. 2312 01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:28,520 Speaker 1: Away. 2313 01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:31,880 Speaker 4: I that I was gonna say. And if no show 2314 01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,880 Speaker 4: jumps on this, I'm taking off. But I'm going under 2315 01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:39,440 Speaker 4: the eight runs Mets against the Padres. Blake Snell's been 2316 01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,040 Speaker 4: on a heater. He's been the best starter on the Padres. 2317 01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:45,320 Speaker 4: Got Peterson on the mound for the Mets June July. 2318 01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:48,240 Speaker 4: He's only giving up one earned run and he's been 2319 01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:51,320 Speaker 4: on the mound three times, so go under Let's rock. 2320 01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:52,160 Speaker 1: Love that nugget. 2321 01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:54,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I am going to go with the team total 2322 01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:58,240 Speaker 3: over here. I'm gonna take the San Francisco Giants. I'm 2323 01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,760 Speaker 3: taking the over four and a half run scored today. 2324 02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:06,480 Speaker 3: They're facing a Rockies pitcher whose e er is staggeringly high, 2325 02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:09,440 Speaker 3: almost seven, So I'm going conbold. 2326 02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the lady in that game too. 2327 02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:15,960 Speaker 3: Isn't it odd that the the gamblers say no, no parlays, 2328 02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:17,680 Speaker 3: but the future bets they're like. 2329 02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going nine to one on this one. 2330 02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Is that kind of funny to you? I don't know.