1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hello, Lyle is this are you Simba? 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm good. Sorry, I watch a lot of Disney. I 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: have a one year old. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: So you have a one year old? Do you Are 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: you enjoying being a father? 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the light in my life. And uh, yeah, 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: it's tough though, having a one year old girl. But 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: trying to set a good example for her. 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And what do you what sorts of things 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: do you do to set a good example for her? 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Uh, trying to be a good parent, trying to be 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: there for when she needs me, and trying to, you know, 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: just shield her from the harsh realities of this world. 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Sorry, why is why do you feel as though the 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: reality of the world is so harsh? 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot. I feel like there's a lot 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: of good to be found in this world. And her 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: mother does a really good job too. And ah, I 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: just feel like it's kind of a tough time right now. 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: She was a COVID baby, so it's it's funny you 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: just never really realize those things until you become a father. 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: M And has she been been have you been changing 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: her diapers a lot? Has she ever shat on your 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: face or anything like that? 25 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Oh? 26 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, she sits all over the place and she shits 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: on my hand and but that's okay, but nah, And 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: I think her mother wants to have one more too, 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: so wish me luck. 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh so you want to have another? Well, it says 31 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: here that you believe that your wife is getting bored 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, definitely, is that something she told you? 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like right to my face. And it's funny because 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 2: like she'll like say to me that, like she needs 35 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: someone with big dick energy. And I was like, huh 36 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: at first, I thought that was kind of hurtful, but 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: you know, I kind of see what she means, Like 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: she wants someone who's confident and relaxed, and that's kind 39 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: of like the opposite of what I am. And if 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: I don't do something soon, she's probably gonna try and 41 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: go and find a boyfriend or some shit. I don't know. 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, it's a lot. 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: So she told you that that she is looking for 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: somebody with big dick energy. 45 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I feel like, yeah, we kind 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: of get on the wrong but sometimes, but she's like 47 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: a she's a witch too, she's a brew ha and 48 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: she like I see her like casting spells and ships. 49 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: So I take what she says very seriously. 50 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: M hmm. Do you believe that she has cast a 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: spell upon you? 52 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 53 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, definitely. She wants me to just really 54 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: kind of grow a pair and get my fire and 55 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: my drive back because it's really low right now and 56 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: hers is like really high. And yeah, I just feel 57 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: like she's getting kind of bored with me, you know. 58 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: So what kind of spell do you believe she has 59 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: cast upon you? 60 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I actually think they're good stulls. 61 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Like she brings me a lot of luck too, and 62 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: she gives me a lot of good energy, which is 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 2: why I'm I'm worried, you know, will make her unhappy. 64 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: So and she does want me to kind of go 65 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: to therapy too, but I guess that's another story. 66 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: So she's told you that she is bored of you. 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: But how do you feel about her? 68 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: Oh? I think she's the best thing to ever happened 69 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: to me. I feel like, you know, I was really 70 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: lucky to find her, and I feel like she's helped 71 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: me realize a lot of things too, Like there are 72 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: a lot of things that are wrong with me, But 73 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: I feel like I don't maybe do the same for her. 74 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: If you know what I mean. 75 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: What does she helped you realize is wrong with you? 76 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: Well, she kind of made me like take a look 77 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: at like the way I act, you know, And she 78 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: also made me realize that maybe my relationship with my 79 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: mom isn't really the healthiest as well. But it's been 80 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: it's been kind of nice because I've never really I 81 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: didn't really realize that until I was older, and like 82 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm twenty eight and I'm almost thirty, so it's kind 83 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: of weird, like having to kind of realize realize those 84 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: things played in life. 85 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: You know. 86 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: So you like her because well you you said you 87 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: think she's the best thing that's ever happened to you, 88 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: And you were saying that because she's helped you realize 89 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: certain things that are that are amiss with you. I mean, 90 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: what else do you find redeeming and attractive and you know, 91 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: anything else about this person that you feel makes them 92 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: a positive thing to have in your life. 93 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: Well, she's really good at kids. That's the first thing. 94 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: Like I didn't know anything about having kids, and so 95 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: she's been able to kind of show me how to 96 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: set a good example for her daughter. And she's also 97 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: then she's a really good friend to kind of bounce 98 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: things off of. And she helps me like find a 99 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: stable job too. I was having trouble finding work there. 100 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: She's kind of been coaching me a little bit. 101 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: And how how did it feel when she told you 102 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: what she told you? 103 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: It felt really good. I was really lucky to to 104 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: find her, but it made me realize that I still 105 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: have a long way to go, you know. 106 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: So that's well, Well, when when she when she you know, 107 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean, when she when she told you that she's 108 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: looking for someone with big dig energy and that if 109 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: you don't. 110 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: Leave you feel. 111 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: Where how did that make you feel? 112 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 6: Well? 113 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: I just feel it didn't make me feel good. I 114 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, I feel like she wants someone who 115 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: has like some swag maybe and kind I'm kind of pooring, 116 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: you know, like I'm kind of quiet, and I feel 117 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: like and she's kind of looking for someone who can, 118 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: uh kind of command a room a little bit, you know. 119 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: So it didn't make me feel goo good. But hopefully 120 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: since we're married, I can kind of turn that around 121 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: a little bit. 122 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: M What do you want from her? Do you want 123 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: her to change anything about herself? 124 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: That's a good question. I feel like maybe she could 125 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: just have a little more patience with me. You know, 126 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: I know that I suffer from some social anxiety a 127 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: little bit, and I have for a while. So I 128 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, it's just I want her to show 129 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: me a little patience and I think we can get there. 130 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: Have you told her that. 131 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry you kind of cut out there? 132 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Have you told her that? 133 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 7: Oh? 134 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, many times? 135 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: And does she does she seem she said, does she 136 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: seem like she's she's internalized and made a further effort 137 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: toward being more patient with you? 138 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like, you know, she likes to 139 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: kind of be romanced a little bit, and I'm not 140 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: very good at romancing. 141 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: You know. 142 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: She likes to kind of be just reminded that she's loved, 143 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: and she likes to kind of be taken out on 144 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: dates and stuff like that. So but it's hard because 145 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: you know, you come home, you work all day and. 146 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, here's what I do want to say to you, Simba. 147 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Here's what I want to say to you, Simba. Simba. 148 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: I think I think if you're trying to build a 149 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: family here, if you're trying to build a life, a 150 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: long lasting relationship with kids and all that, I think 151 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: you should be married to someone who loves you for 152 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: who you are, who believes that you are enough, but 153 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: also it's continuously encouraging you, challenging you to be better 154 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: in ways in which you yourself also desire to be better. 155 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't like that your wife is telling you, you know, 156 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: you better man up right now or else I'm out 157 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: of here again. I don't want to pry too deep 158 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: or make too many assumptions because I don't really feel 159 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: like I can grasp the full scope of your relationship 160 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: over the course of ten minutes. I'm not going to 161 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: pretend like I can, but I will just say that 162 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: I think you should be with someone who accepts you 163 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: for who you are while still simultaneously challenging you. And 164 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: I think that you should also be checking in with 165 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: yourself to see if you're happy, because if you know 166 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: she's not making the effort to be more patient with you, 167 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: then why would you be inclined to make the effort 168 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: to man up for her? You know what I'm saying. 169 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't like that there's an ultimatum attached to it. 170 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: I think it's good that you two are challenging each 171 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: other to be better, but if you're going to be 172 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: raising a child with this parson, if you're going to 173 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: be deeply connected with this person, this person is gonna 174 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: be the most important person in your life. They should 175 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: feel as though you are enough. How do you feel 176 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: about that? 177 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: No, it's so good. I like that. I like that 178 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: a lot, and I can't wait to tell her. She's 179 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: going to be so excited. I got on the show. 180 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: But uh, I kind of like that. 181 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: I like that. 182 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: There's a balance, you know, and I really agree that 183 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: it takes It's a two way street and it will 184 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: take effort on both our parts. So I really like that. 185 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say before we go, Simba? 186 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: No, thank you so much. By chat Bye bye Lyle. 187 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Goodbye, Simba. 188 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: Thanks by. 189 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Simba. Simba, Simba, sim Simba. I don't know. I don't 190 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: have a wife, I don't have a children. I'm not 191 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: in love. I don't know if I'll ever be in love. 192 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if anything qualifies me to tell Simba anything. 193 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just an old chunk of coal, just 194 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: an old green, crackly leaf, you know. Hello, doctor Gex, Hello, 195 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: how are you? 196 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: I'm good, sir, I'm go because I got this problem. 197 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: I've ran off, you know, I ran off about eleven miles. 198 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: I've gotta I gotta rip some the band aid up 199 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: until that, I'm not coming back and I need your help. 200 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: How do igue? 201 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: Okay? So you said you've ran away? 202 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 203 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Where did you run away? 204 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: From the mountains of Idaho? 205 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: You ran away to Idaho? Or from Idaho. 206 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 3: From Yeah, you ran cold. 207 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: The mountains of Idaho? Because it sounds very cold. Where 208 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: did you run away to. 209 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: San Diego? Works worn? 210 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: That sounds like a a well informed decision. What what 211 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: was the impetus of that decision? Why did you Why 212 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: did you run away? Was it just the weather? 213 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:41,359 Speaker 3: Well, I'm allergic to the cold. Eh, I'm better gets 214 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: as well, but I actually am. And it's called cold 215 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: d gardia and it's just not I don't do well 216 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: in cold. 217 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: Mhm mhm. And so from what you've said, you you 218 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: left someone there? You left uh a woman who is 219 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: important to you in Idaho? 220 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: Is that? 221 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: Is that what I'm hearing? 222 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: I freaking did that, and I'm not really duck. I'm 223 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: not proud of it and I'm not happy about it, 224 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: but I did it, you know. 225 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: H. 226 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have any conversation with her before you 227 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: left her? Did you just completely leave and then not 228 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: tell her? 229 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 6: No? 230 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: I I she saw me taking some bags and stuff 231 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: when I said, I'm going to hire one of your 232 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: friends to take me to the airport. You think that 233 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: would be okay? I said that, and then I did it, 234 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: and then I flew away. 235 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 8: Hmm. 236 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: And why was it so hard to leave this person behind? 237 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: She's really Jesus sweet old gal. You know, I'm old 238 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: some bitch, and so she and so like we've been 239 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: around the block and she's pretty pretty, nice little girl 240 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: and stuff. But yeah, I have the mind of a 241 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: twenty year old and I need those twenty year old things. 242 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: And no, the older girl, they just may not be 243 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: able to satisfy a fellaw like that, you know what 244 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: I mean? 245 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: How long have you and uh and the girl, the 246 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: girl that you left behind? How long had you and 247 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: her been together? 248 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: Well? 249 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: I started kicking around with her and stuck for about 250 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: ten years, and then then we became kind of intimate 251 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: for several years, and and then I lived with her 252 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: for several months last fall and winter and ran off. 253 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: I don't like to. 254 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: Well, well, well, so tell so okay, So then tell 255 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: me this, how come she didn't come with you? 256 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: You know, she she has family and friends and the stuff. 257 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of that kind of thing going on. 258 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: I don't. Well, I have family, and but I could 259 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: give a funk about it, you know, I just go 260 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: where I go. 261 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 8: M h yeah. 262 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: So, in in sort of examining, like what's important to 263 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: you in the context of of of this decision, would 264 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: you say that? And it's okay if if, if, this 265 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: is the answer, because I think it's good to know 266 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: what you value is friends and family and relationships with 267 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: other people. Is that important to you? 268 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: You know, I'd rather just sunbathe on a rock out 269 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: in the middle of the desert and hang out with 270 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: any of them. I've been that way. Most of my 271 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: wife has been that way, you know. I'm prospector. So 272 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: I would dig holes in the ground and sometimes I 273 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: would dig for hundreds of yards, and I enjoyed being 274 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: way way down there, you know, and all by my fault, 275 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: all you could hear was your heart beat. 276 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: Do you mind if I ask you how old you are? 277 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm seventy fus a little more than seventy eight. 278 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: And you say that you really enjoy being alone? Has 279 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: it been like that for your entire life. 280 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I would disappear into the mountain and I 281 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't come out for a long time. Eh. What was 282 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: I was married once? The time I was married, scalous, 283 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: I was married to the schalty's secretary, you know, in 284 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: a college, and she wanted me to become something, you know, 285 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: other than a bomb, and a prospector to her was 286 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: a bomb, you know. And so I went to school 287 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: and I could. I quit a semester before I graduated 288 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: with distinguished honors. And it's all because she goes, you 289 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: know what, this summer, You're not going into the mountains 290 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 3: ever again. You're going to stay home, nada. I was 291 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: working for a law guy and I was an intern, 292 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: and he come in and he told me, I'm going 293 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: to bump you up fourteen to eighty five cases, and 294 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you a raise. I've ran 295 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: off that day to you ran off and I even 296 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: come back. I never even went back home ever. 297 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: What is What is home is where it's home for you? 298 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: Oh man, I must have been a nomad in my 299 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: past life, right, mm hmm. So I'm I'm no mad. 300 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: I'm not very domesticated Yeah, that's not good, you know, 301 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: and I'm not civilized either. 302 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: Mostly well, hold on, stop, can't stop you for just 303 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: a second. You said that, you're saying that's not that good, 304 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: and that leads into what I was going to ask you, 305 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: is so you're saying that you've been nomadic for most 306 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: of your life. You've been very comfortable and actively pursued 307 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: lots of time alone. And and I'm curious, if anything 308 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: at all, have there been many cons to this lifestyle 309 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: or many times in which you reconsidered your position of 310 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: always desiring to be nomadic and to be alone. Have 311 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: there been times where you wanted. 312 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: I've lost a few friends over it. Because if if 313 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: you were a friend of mine and you just came 314 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: up on me all of a sudden, like you know, 315 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: knocked on my door, I'll be all set. You needed 316 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: to let me know you were going to come there 317 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: and visit. Otherwise on my just pulled a gun off, 318 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: show up and back you the hell out of the 319 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: door and tell you never to come back again, you know. 320 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: And that's the way I was. And I'm having a 321 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: hard time with that now. I'm don diego. You people 322 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: knocking on the door on the all shit. Oh my. 323 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: People are people are knocking on your door all the 324 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: time in San Diego? Why are they knocking on your door? 325 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh, there's delivery. 326 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 6: You know. 327 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: I don't go out to the store as much, so 328 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: I have things delivered and they knock, knock, blah blah 329 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: and they walk away. 330 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 5: Right. 331 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I never had it. I never allowed people 332 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: to come knocking on my door. I had two gates 333 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: and they're both locked, and there was lots of signs 334 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: saying scary shit. 335 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 5: You know. 336 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: Now, I have another question for you that I I 337 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: have another question for you. Do you because I feel 338 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: like there's a difference between these two and I'm curious 339 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: what it is for you. Do you just enjoy being 340 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: alone or do you actively not like other people. 341 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: Like totally be comfortable with me. I just you know, 342 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: I don't totally like or dislike other people because sometimes 343 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: I'm the walfar. I'm like blah blah blah blah blah, 344 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: you know and stuff. However, when I'm doing blah blah, boy, 345 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: I need to be by myself and you guys need 346 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: to fuck out of here. Yeah. So there's some people 347 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: now that are comfortable being a one and I know. 348 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: I Yeah, I'm doing many a woman's life. You know, 349 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: I've been married four times and and I have numerous 350 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: girlfriends and stuff. That's none of it stuck, you know, 351 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: because I had to go to the hills. 352 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: M How long after being in a relationship will you 353 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: typically start to feel like you're tired of it and 354 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: you need to be alone? 355 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not to scale on the internet today and 356 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: it lasted about three four hours and I'm started after 357 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: that and lads go, you know this is not gonna 358 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: work out? 359 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 4: Okay, bye? 360 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: So after four marriages and all these girlfriends, all these 361 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: people meeting online, what keeps you going back? Because after 362 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: because after four marriage because on the fourth marriage, right, 363 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: you have to be like, all right, didn't work out 364 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: the previous three times, but let's try again. What made you? 365 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: What made you want to try again? 366 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: Ah? Dude, it's the sense of a woman, right. How 367 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: could you not? How can you not? I'm sorry? Turned 368 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: me out? 369 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 4: H H. 370 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: Do you have friends? Just people like friends? 371 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: You know? 372 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: I have a couple, but rarely do I speak to them. 373 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: M fairly a couple of times a year. Maybe because 374 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: one of my good friends once a year on his birthday. 375 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: Do you see one of your good friends once a 376 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: year on his birthday? 377 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: You know, I just talked to him on the phone. 378 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: So when you're alone, what do you do to pass 379 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: the time? What are what are some activities that you 380 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: find yourself doing day to day. 381 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: I do a lot of exercises to the old part, 382 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: and I want to stay in shape and so and 383 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: I read. I read like a million pages a year. 384 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: You know, people that can read, they can do whatever 385 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 3: they all they want, you know, because they got all 386 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: the all the words in their heads. So a lot 387 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: of reading. I'd probably read three four books a week, 388 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: and they can be of anything. I'm thinking about reading 389 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: books on how to be a doctor and the lawyer, 390 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 3: and you don't even learn how to be a therapist. 391 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's probably not. I'll be a bad therapist. 392 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: I really would. 393 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Why do you think it would be a bad therapist? 394 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: Because I give them bad advice? You know, they are fight, 395 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: fight or flight. I'm always on the flight end of it, 396 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: and so I hit out. You know that's not good 397 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: all the time. You can't just like you can't just 398 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: pull up your stakes and run off the whole time. 399 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: But here's that's the way I'm doing to me until 400 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: the day I doe. So that's me. 401 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: So is that is that the way you feel about 402 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: yourself and about your life is that continually you're You're 403 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: like you're running away. 404 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: Or I'm just totally impulsive. Right, but give an impulse 405 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: and I just take it, and I'm like, I'll go 406 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: buy a ticket and fly away. Right, I've done that 407 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 3: to I here. So yeah, and it gets expensive, you 408 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: know for old people to go buy tickets and things 409 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: and fly away, yeah, or fly back? Okay, I haven't. Yeah, 410 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: that's that's even harder like that. 411 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: So in in in seventy years, do you have anything 412 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: that you regret? 413 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 3: I not, No, no freaking way, I don't regret nothing. 414 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: I've got four children, I've got eight grandchildren, and I 415 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: just love everythreaking one of them. But I just want 416 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: them to see how it went from me. 417 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: So you have you didn't even mention that you didn't 418 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: mention that you had h you had children and grandchildren. 419 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 3: I know I can't tell you everything. It's a little 420 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: short thing here, but all I mean I could do 421 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: balling you. I've been a prospector. I've dug four hundred 422 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: and ten yards a tonnel underground by hand with the 423 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: sledge hammer, a pig bar and a wheelbarrow, you know, 424 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: and a candle light. I've done a lot of the 425 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: things that the old timers did. I'm old timer too. 426 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: Do you ever do you ever see your children and grandchildren? 427 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: I cut thousands? What's that did? 428 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: Do you ever see your children and grandchildren? 429 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm? You know on messenger and stuff? Mm hmm. 430 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're pretty tech savvy, super considering. Uh, how you 431 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: you're you're talking about doing all of being an old timer? 432 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I went to I've been to college a 433 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: couple of times, and I could have been a distinguished 434 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: honor student if I just stayed there other semester. I've 435 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: got this the knowledge, you know, educated gold for however, 436 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: I don't know education helps you to be more social 437 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: and not probably not m hm. 438 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 4: M hm. 439 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: I'm a hard case house dick. 440 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: So do you have any any advice for anyone out 441 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: there listening to this of anything that you have have 442 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: learned in your time of solitude and introspection? 443 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 3: My dolly ideas, Jack, I got. I've got advice for 444 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: the young folks out there. Please don't don't get a 445 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: job and work yourself hard to hurt yourself, you know, 446 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: don't hurt your back working for somebody. Just if you 447 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: have to just be a bomb, you know, because you'll 448 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: be okay. You make enough word me to feed yourself, 449 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: you'll be okay. You won't hurt yourself, and you'll laugh longer. 450 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: And then if you gotta get married, don't have children 451 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: until you're in your late forties. If you have to 452 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: just adopt a seventeen year old that kids stuff, I don't. 453 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: That's no way. Let me have great here. Yeah, so 454 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: there you go. 455 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: Did you have a hard time raising your kids? What 456 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: did you have a hard time raising your kids? 457 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: No? I believe with my youngest daughter. And she's an intelligent, 458 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: freaking person, I know. And wow, Yeah, she's an artist 459 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: and she's you know, she's on top of her you know, 460 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: she's only twenty one and she makes several hundred dollars 461 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: a day, way more than I ever did it. Hurry, 462 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: I guess for sure. Yeah, successful young woman. She's married 463 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: to a pirate. She's nice too. Yeah, he's an actual pirate. 464 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: She's married to an actual Where did she where does 465 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: she meet an actual pirate? 466 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: You not Eyman wine right, and she told me that 467 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: she would never ever get married, and by god, she's 468 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: married again, you know, somewhere off over in Washington, somewhere 469 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: he was he's stationed there as a pirate and until like, yeah, 470 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: I don't think they get along just fine. 471 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Well, Teelor, you said your name. 472 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: Was Killer, like a boat tiller or a road to Killer, 473 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: something like, you know, like that, that kind of killer Tiller. 474 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: Any any final thoughts, feelings, sentiments that you wish to 475 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: share before we go. 476 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: I think your show is really cool, doctor Gak, and 477 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: I'll continue. 478 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: Thank you very much to welcome in. 479 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: You have good evening you as well. 480 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: Shout out to Tiller. Very interesting, very interesting perspective, Uh 481 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: from Tiller. There's a lot of unpack out of that. 482 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: The idea of there's an idea that I think about 483 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: over time, where like you know, society tells us that, 484 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: I mean, what is the thesis of every Disney movie, 485 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: of a lot of things, is that the most important 486 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: thing in life is friends and family? But what if 487 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: it's not. What about Tiller? He seems like he's having 488 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: a great time. I don't know if he's having a 489 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: great time, but he seemed like it. People can seem 490 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of things and not be those things. 491 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm not going to say one 492 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: way or the other. But he seems like he's chilling. 493 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: He seems like he loves. He seemed like he love, 494 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: He had love right. He clearly loved. I don't know 495 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: if it was his daughter or his granddaughter that he 496 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: was talking about, but he clearly loved her, clearly loved 497 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: his children, but also love nothing more than his alone time, 498 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: his books. Where the hell did she meet a pirate? 499 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: It was the one thing I wasn't sure about. Hello, 500 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: big gek, Hello is this Daniel? 501 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 7: Yes, this is what's up with? 502 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: Do not a whole lot? Is there anything in particular 503 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: that you want to talk about today? 504 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 9: I have a couple of things, A couple of things here, Okay, 505 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 9: tell me Number one. I just found out that we 506 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 9: have a marijuana farmer's market where I live. Okay, that's 507 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 9: kind of exciting. I'm new to the world of marijuana, 508 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 9: so I'm like, I'm kind of stoked about it a 509 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 9: little bit. 510 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: Daniel, you had a particular thing that you told the 511 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: call screener that you wanted to talk about and I 512 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: can tell that you are sort of skirting around it. 513 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? 514 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 9: It's it's kind of the I don't know, it's it's 515 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 9: a little a little nervous thing. It's a little it's 516 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 9: a little bit of a anxiety to talk about it. 517 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 9: I don't know. 518 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't. 519 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 9: I don't usually open up to the random geck of 520 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 9: the internet. 521 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 8: Mm hm m hm hm. 522 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: Well, Daniel, it says here that you have a crush 523 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: on one of your co workers. 524 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 9: That is true, This is true. She's she's very I 525 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 9: don't know, she's she's nice, she's she lasts in my jokes, 526 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 9: which I think is is pretty stellar. She appreciates my 527 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 9: meat both puns after after the singer died our ip. 528 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 8: And she's pretty cool. 529 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So are you are you going to make 530 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: any attempt to to get to know her about her, 531 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: to talk to her about things, to go on a 532 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: date with her, to somehow action upon your crush. 533 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 9: So yes, actually, but she just broke up with her boyfriend, 534 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 9: so I'm trying to give it a little bit of 535 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 9: time so that she can heal. But I did invite 536 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 9: her to go to the farmer's market with me, to 537 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 9: check out all the weeds. 538 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so this so everything does ultimately come 539 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: back to each other. This there there there was in 540 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: fact an element to you bringing up this farmer's market. 541 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: You've invited her to the farmer's markets to to go 542 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: buy weed. And how did she respond to that? 543 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 9: She just said it was interesting. It's it's over the weekend, 544 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 9: so she's she's given them some talking to think about it. 545 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 9: But she has been bringing up how she wants to 546 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 9: hang out with friends outside of works more and she 547 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 9: wants to really she invited me to go at her 548 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 9: New Year's party. Yeah, so I'm thinking there could be something, 549 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 9: but I don't want to you know, push my luck 550 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 9: and you know, review all my cards and then have 551 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 9: it all cave in on me. 552 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: You know, why are you so adverse to I mean, 553 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: even in this phone call, you seem uh not, not 554 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: even in this phone call, or or or in your 555 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: interactions with your friends or with with people you're romantically 556 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: interested in, you seem to not want to show all 557 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: of your cards just in general. 558 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 9: I guess so, I'm I'm just kind of a reserved person. 559 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 9: I feel like if I put everything out in the open, 560 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 9: somehow it could come back to invite me. I like 561 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 9: to have a little bit of a mystery too that way, 562 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 9: like I'm more intriguing. 563 00:36:52,160 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: Mmmmmmm okay, And and does your does I are not 564 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: to show all of your cards? Is it come from 565 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: a fear of showing your cards? Or is this an 566 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: intentional ploy to see in a certain way, Because to 567 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't like. 568 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: Either of both. 569 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 8: Yeah I. 570 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 4: Could. 571 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: I feel like, why do you desire to to appear 572 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: more mysterious? 573 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 9: I think it just adds that much more interest for others, 574 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 9: Like like you know, people when they watch a show 575 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 9: doing the show off on a cliffhanger for some episodes 576 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 9: and you think, oh my god, what's going to happen next? 577 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 9: And it leaves you like wondering it's so interested and 578 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 9: stay invested. I feel like if I show some sort 579 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 9: of mystery to myself, like well founded mystery. I don't 580 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 9: make stuff up, but I kind of reserve just enough 581 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 9: so that you know, they could she could be more 582 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 9: interested and say, okay, so the one that like she 583 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 9: she's asked me all questions about you know, the next 584 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 9: car I'm gonna buy and stuff, and I just I 585 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 9: try to try to leave some sort of reservation from that. 586 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 9: But also, like I said, I feel like if I 587 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 9: open up, they could be used to against me, to like, 588 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 9: I don't know, exploit my insecurity. 589 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: Totally, totally, totally, totally, I totally hear what you're saying, Daniel. 590 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: You know, man, I'm gonna tell you. I know, I 591 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: just went on a hold shpiel about how don't want 592 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: to give advice. But that's a terrible uh. I I 593 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: unfortunately host what some may consider an advice podcast, But 594 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: I will tell you in my own personal life, when 595 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: it comes to the realm of sort of uh, romantic 596 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: hobble gobble or not not even not even romantic hobble gobble, 597 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: business hobble gobble, relate, friendship hobble gobble, all types of 598 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: hobble gobble, I have found that the more I can 599 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: just be without trying to change my personality or strategize. 600 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: Everyone's very obsessed with strategizing the various ways they can 601 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: say this cool thing or act this certain way to 602 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: get this person to think that of them or whatnot. 603 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but I used to 604 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: do a lot, and don't get me wrong, I still 605 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: do my fair share of doing that. But every time 606 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: I find myself doing that, it feels just stressful. It 607 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: feels just like, you know, I've been so much happy 608 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: in this situation. It's a lot of work to try 609 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: to seem a certain way, and I find myself happier 610 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: when I can just be and people, naturally, I've noticed, 611 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: will either be attracted to who I am when I 612 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: am just being or they will not be right. But 613 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: I don't go out of my way. I try, I try. 614 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: I never want to present to any of this is 615 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 1: if I'm the master of it, because I'm totally, totally, 616 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: totally not. But this is just where I would ultimately 617 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: like to be in my life. That's what I'm telling you. 618 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: I try to just be exist and not try to 619 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: seem a certain way to people, because it just makes 620 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: me happier. It makes me feel better about myself. It 621 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: makes me feel a little bit less like I'm putting 622 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: on a thing of a way to try to be 623 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: and it just skips so many unnecessary steps. Like, for example, 624 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: something I've been trying working on lately, again not a 625 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: master of it, but been working on it is if 626 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: I'm ever texting with someone and I find myself rewriting 627 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: and writing a text to try, like you know how, 628 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: you know how it is, trying to craft the perfect 629 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: text that sounds the perfect way, right. I've decided I'm 630 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: not I've decided I'm not gonna do that anymore. I've decided. 631 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: And I look at my text with people and I'm 632 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: like and every and I want them to look all 633 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: the same. I don't want to text one person one 634 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: sort of cool way and one person like more like RelA. 635 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: Just I just exist. I am, and people either well 636 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: like me or they won't. But I'm I'm tired of 637 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: trying to craft the cool text, trying to say the 638 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: cool thing. It's it's exhausting. It's so much outward effort, 639 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: where you could, instead, Daniel, focus on improving the aspects 640 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: of your personality that you yourself are proud of, leaning 641 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: more into yourself and confidently trying to express that self 642 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: out into the world. Again, I'm not an expert of that, 643 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: but that's the philosophy that I like to undertake when 644 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: it comes to things like this. So I get why 645 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: you want I get why you want to create an 646 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: air of mystery. But here's the thing. This girl that 647 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: you like, she's either going to like you or she's not. 648 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: And in reality, the like the idea that you can 649 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: say some cool thing or act some cool way that 650 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: will change that is faulty, I think, and I think 651 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: you would be better off focusing on just being yourself 652 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: as much as you possibly can and projecting that as 653 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: authentically as you possibly can, and then see who sticks around. 654 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: It'll be a much it's a tougher journey, for sure, 655 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: but it will be a better long term strategy for 656 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 1: you than to try to see a mysterious what do 657 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: you think about all that? 658 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 9: I think that's a very well put and very well founded, 659 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 9: because there are times when I'm talking with her, like 660 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 9: I'll bring up things about myself, like you know, a 661 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 9: playlist I made for my funeral, and like the things 662 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 9: that just that are more about me and less like 663 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 9: you know, act like made up or left to you know, 664 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 9: kind of persuade her, like you said, but like when 665 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 9: I have those types of conversations, it just feels more 666 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 9: genuine and more authentic, and it's just a lot easier 667 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 9: to do. But the example that you had is text 668 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 9: is beautifully crafted. When you have to sit there and 669 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 9: rewrite the text over and over. It just it doesn't 670 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 9: feel natural, it doesn't feel correct. So I agree with 671 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 9: what are you doing yourself? And that's that's something that 672 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 9: I I kind of want to pick one up. So 673 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 9: thanks for shouldn't like. 674 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: To that for sure, Daniel. I wish you good luck. 675 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: And again, as I said, I'm not an expert of 676 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: these things. I'm trying to do them alongside uh you, 677 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: So you know, I hope that I hope that that 678 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: helped inform something. 679 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 8: It really did. 680 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 9: It kind of opened up my eyes a little bit. 681 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: So thank you, appreciate it, Thank you for calling Daniel. 682 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 9: Thank you enjoying it. 683 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: Oh fae, I cut him off before he said to 684 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of my day. Now my day is 685 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: gonna suck. I seriously do that. I fucking made up. 686 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: I made a promise to myself. I made a promise 687 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: to myself and maybe you guys will join me. But 688 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: every if I've ever if I'm crafting a text back 689 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: for more than five minutes or something I've been doing, 690 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: I've been doing this lately. I'll catch myself if I'm 691 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: trying to craft the perfect text or email or whatever 692 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: it is, and I'll go with the fuck am I 693 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: just send it who gives it? Because at the I 694 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: fucking genuinely believe. I fucking genuinely believe that whatever it 695 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: is you want from the person, whether it's you want 696 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: them to go on a date with you, you want them 697 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: to be friends with you, you want them to work with 698 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: you in some sort of business capacity, whatever it is, 699 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: they kind of already will want to or won't want to, 700 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: I think, And the amounts that you can influence whether 701 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: or not they will or won't by whatever it is 702 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: you say in your text, aside from the outliers, if 703 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: you like, say something that's completely crazy, you know, but 704 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: I believe that the amount of influence that you can 705 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: have by the crafting the perfect whatever it's kind of low. 706 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: Think about it like this. Think about the person you 707 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: have a crush on, right if they texted you, you 708 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: would respond It doesn't matter what they It doesn't really 709 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: matter what they say. They could send an emoji, they 710 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: could send a thing with five exclamation points, it doesn't matter. 711 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: You would respond why because you want to. It doesn't 712 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: matter what they say. People either will want to or 713 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: won't want to. That's just what I think but I'm 714 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: a crazy get go guy on the computer. Hello, Why 715 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: how are you? 716 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm doing well? 717 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 5: How are you? 718 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing good. It says here that you 719 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: are a therapist and you would like to talk about 720 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: the difference between what I do and actual therapy, and 721 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: I would love to have this conversation. 722 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd love to have a conversation. I was telling 723 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 5: the screener guy that I was super stoked to even 724 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 5: get to that point because I tried calling many times 725 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 5: and have never been able to get through. And then yeah, 726 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 5: I was just I'm a big fan. I follow you 727 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 5: on the ground, follow you on stream. 728 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 6: It's really cool. 729 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I'm excited to have this conversation. 730 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: This is going to sound out of context when I 731 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: put it into a podcast. But we did just have 732 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: a caller call in saying that they were hanging on 733 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,760 Speaker 1: a thread, and I had to decline that call because 734 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: it felt a little bit too too intense for me, 735 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: and I felt as though I felt as though it's 736 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: it would be responsible to take a call like that, 737 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: even though you know, I do hope that person gets help. 738 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: What do you think about that, Tiffany, Yeah. 739 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 5: No, I was actually watching that, and I was like, huh, 740 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 5: and I felt very nervous for you and that conversation. 741 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 5: I think you handled it great. 742 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: So tell me. You said the differences between what I 743 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 1: do and actual therapy, I I I, you know, I'd 744 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts on all this. 745 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 3: Well. 746 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 5: I mean, I I've I view what you do as 747 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 5: as entertainment, but with you know, very genuine flair. I 748 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 5: you know, obviously this is unscripted. You don't know who's 749 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 5: going to be giving you a call and uh, and 750 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 5: so you know, I think you bring yourself and and 751 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 5: your reactions, your genuine reactions into that dynamic, and oftentimes 752 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 5: it's very funny, that's super hilarious, hence the entertainment value. 753 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 5: But I really appreciate your your kind of authenticity in 754 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 5: in these conversations. So as far as what I think 755 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 5: is different between what you and I do, is I 756 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 5: operate out of a therapeutic orientation. I was trained extensively 757 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 5: in uh, mental health, you know, mental disorders. You know, 758 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 5: I often work collaboratively with an entire treatment team, and 759 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 5: I mean I've treated things like suicidality and self harm 760 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 5: and things like that, and have a kind of therapeutic 761 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 5: orientation to operate out from to treat that. So, I mean, 762 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 5: I view what you and I do is very different. 763 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 5: But what I really appreciate about what you do is 764 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 5: this uh kind of genuineness that you bring into the dynamic. 765 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 5: And that's something you know. As a therapist, I am 766 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,280 Speaker 5: by profession, but I always like to tell my clients 767 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 5: like I'm a I'm a human first and therapist as well, 768 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 5: but you know, I try to bring my genuine self 769 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 5: in the interactions I have with my clients as well. 770 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, I think those are kind of 771 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 5: the big differences. 772 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 1: Does that what ever come to you and you feel 773 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: as though you cannot help them? 774 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 4: Oh? 775 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 776 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 5: Anytime I get into territory where I feel like, you know, 777 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 5: it's out of my expertise, I I really try to 778 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 5: understand my limitations and be very transparent out them. I 779 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 5: think that's part of my my realness and genuineness in 780 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 5: in my treatment is you know, heye, you're telling me 781 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 5: about these things and it is really not in my 782 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 5: scope of expertise. So you know, I do recommend UH 783 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 5: treatment in X Y or Z area, but that happens frequently. 784 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: Mm hmm hmm, do you think do you do? You 785 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: do you have a optimistic viewpoint that everyone can be 786 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: helped or have you ever met someone or had a 787 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: client come in and be like, there is no hope 788 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: for this person. 789 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 5: I generally have an optimistic perspective that's largely based in 790 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 5: my therapeutic training and my involvement in research. I have 791 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 5: a lot of hope for treatment outcomes and treatment development. 792 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 5: And I've worked and you know, really severe populations, and 793 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 5: I've seen progress and recovery. So I I do, you know, 794 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 5: And if I didn't have a sense of hope, I 795 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 5: don't think I'd be doing what I'm doing. That being said, 796 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 5: especially in the past couple of years of the pandemic, 797 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 5: mental health has has really declined and it's incredibly tiring, 798 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 5: I will say, and I've felt more burnt out than 799 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 5: I have in a long time. But I would say 800 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 5: I do have hope, and I think it's it's not 801 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 5: a it's not a black or white answer either. I 802 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 5: think there's certain populations that have worse prognosis and and 803 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 5: some that have better prognosis. But it doesn't mean that 804 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 5: there isn't still a chance and that if you know they're. 805 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 4: Part of who I treat that I. 806 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 5: Have zero kind of hope in even some improvement in 807 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 5: their conditions. 808 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: Ms burnt out by m hm doing all of this work. 809 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: What do you do when you get burnt out to 810 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: revive yourself? 811 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 5: Oh, I take vacations. I have a really supportive partner. 812 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 5: I just I really try to kind of distance myself 813 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 5: and get myself out out away from work. I like 814 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 5: to treat myself. You know, doesn't hurt to buy a 815 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 5: nice pair of shoes, doesn't hurt to you know, go 816 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 5: out to a nice dinner. It doesn't mean, yeah, I'm saying, 817 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 5: like treat yourself. I like just shopping. I like cooking. 818 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 5: There's a lot of things I like doing, and those 819 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 5: are all. You know, there's forms of self care that 820 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 5: I think are a little bit more indulgent. And then 821 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 5: there's you know, the day to day, my. 822 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: Dog, What do you when? What are you doing when 823 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: you find what are you doing when you find yourself indulging? 824 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 5: Oh? Oh, like like the fancy dinners. You know, like 825 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 5: fancy dinners or I, you know, treat myself as something 826 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 5: extra expensive. And yet it's hard because it's a therapist. 827 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 5: You don't make all that much money. You don't go 828 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 5: into the profession for the big. 829 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 3: Dollars, but. 830 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 5: You know, I do enjoy just at least feeling like 831 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 5: I'm treating myself. You know, I'm a. 832 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 4: Big dirict shopper. 833 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 5: I like feels, and so you know, if I like 834 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 5: go to you know, TJ Max or Nordstrom rack and 835 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 5: find something that was would otherwise be hundreds of dollars 836 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 5: that I've scored for like twenty that's like one of 837 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 5: the most fun things for me to do. Hm. 838 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: Hmm. Okay, so you're a real therapist. You burn out sometimes, 839 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: but you go to the olive garden and fun shape. 840 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 8: Hmm. 841 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: What other questions do I have for you as a 842 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: as a real therapist? What I'm doing illegal? 843 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 5: I don't think so. But also I'm not a lawyer, 844 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 5: so you know, I couldn't give you that specific answer. 845 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 5: I don't think. I think you're very clear about what 846 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 5: you do. 847 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm not a real Uh couldn't imagine 848 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: being a real therapist. That sounds that sounds tough. It is. 849 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 5: It's it's not an easy job. But I think the 850 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,240 Speaker 5: training to go into a therapist helps me to feel 851 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 5: well equipped to do what I do. 852 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I hate being a fake one sometimes, you. 853 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 5: Know, but to be honest, things like this, watching your 854 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 5: feed and following you is something I do. 855 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 4: For self care. 856 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 5: I really enjoy what you do and it brings like, 857 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 5: you know, happiness into my day. And I've I've shared 858 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 5: your content with my other therapist friends and we all 859 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 5: get a you know, good laugh out of out of 860 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 5: what you do and it's really nice. 861 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: Well, damn, thank you very much, Tiffany. I appreciate all 862 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: the kind words. And hmm, is there is there a 863 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: before we go? I is there anything in particular else 864 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: that you want to say before before we depart and 865 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: never see each other again. 866 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 5: Well, you know, something I told the screener guy was, 867 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 5: you know, I'm calling the what I do with the therapist, 868 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 5: and you know, what you do is not always super 869 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 5: funny like this most recent call. It can feel kind 870 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 5: of scary. And I can't, I mean, I can't imagine 871 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 5: all your calls to be as like, you know, funny 872 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 5: and joyful. So I just wanted to know how you 873 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 5: handle things, and you know how how what some of 874 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 5: the things you do for a self care and you know, 875 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 5: take care of take care of your own mental health. 876 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I was talking about this before, 877 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: but on Monday's stream I was falling apart by the 878 00:55:54,360 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: end of it. Uh uh. Today's stream, though it was great. 879 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's hard because it really feels like 880 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm rolling the dice every time I get on here where. 881 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel really great about things and I'm like, oh, 882 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: this is a good thing to be doing. And sometimes 883 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell have I gone and got 884 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: myself into by being a fake gecko guy thing on 885 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: the computer? But how do I stay sane? I don't know. 886 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 1: I wish I could give you a answer for that. 887 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 1: I've been trying to meditate more, journaling, getting high, ohthough 888 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: that's probably not a good one. I eat a lot 889 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: of candy. That's also not a good one. Ah, you know, 890 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: just bad stuff. But trying to take breaks. Although I'm 891 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: conflicted about breaks. I'm very conflicted about the idea of breaks, 892 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: because a break, okay, like if I'm being very stressed 893 00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: out by my job or by something that, let's say 894 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 1: by my job, and I'm like, okay, I need a break, 895 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 1: I almost feel like I'm escaping from the thing as 896 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: opposed to facing it head on and fixing the problem 897 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: where the problem is, because right like, I could take 898 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: a three week vacation whatever the fuck, come back, and 899 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,600 Speaker 1: then if I'm not feeling good, I still haven't I 900 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 1: even fixed the problem. I've just escaped from it momentarily, 901 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: I still have to go back to it. So that's 902 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: my sort of thing about about breaks. I feel like 903 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at I'm pretty good at finding time 904 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: to think about things outside of the stream and live 905 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: a life outside of the computer. But still when I 906 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: come back, I'm still it doesn't feel like I've addressed 907 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: the problem. I'm like, escape, you escape from the problem, 908 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: and you come back, it's still there, you know. Does 909 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: that make sense? 910 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? 911 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 5: I mean I think you have. You have a conundrum 912 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 5: on your hands. I mean, I I was thinking you 913 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 5: were going to go into a separate thought about about 914 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 5: breaks and why they can be so conflicting, because I 915 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 5: feel similarly about breaks but in a different way and so, 916 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 5: but but that's not where I thought you were going. 917 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 5: And uh, and and it sounds to me like maybe 918 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 5: if the problem being work, which is what I imagine 919 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 5: this this streaming to be feeling that degree of stressful 920 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 5: for you. It's yeah, it's not something a vacation necessarily 921 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 5: is going to fix. There's something about what you do 922 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 5: that is, I think more inherently stressful, and perhaps that 923 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 5: needs to be like explored. 924 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: You know, It's true, I feel good right now. This 925 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: has been a good stream. I haven't very good for 926 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: that stream, so who knows? It's always like that's that. 927 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest problem that I have is 928 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: that what's the is like, what is the fucking I? 929 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: What is the x y X plus y times z 930 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: divided by Q equation? Like that I can always feel good, 931 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: but it doesn't I don't feel like I can don't 932 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: feel like I have a control over that. It's just 933 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: gotta's gotta go in. You's got to show up. 934 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's it's probably 935 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 5: a lot of things that contribute to you know, how 936 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 5: you enter in stream that that kind of primes you 937 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 5: for whether it's going to be good to some degree, 938 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 5: And then I think, whatever the dice rolls as far 939 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 5: as who shows up in your stream, I mean, I 940 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 5: don't know. I feel like some of that unpredictability is 941 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 5: some some that I something I deal with too, and 942 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 5: you know, there are aspects of my job that I 943 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 5: wish we're more I don't know, certain or stable in 944 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 5: some way. But it's also what makes it kind of 945 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 5: exciting and interesting. It feels like a new new thing 946 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 5: to figure out or kind of challenge myself with or 947 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,919 Speaker 5: grow in some way, shape or form. 948 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 6: So it's a little bit of a double edged sword. 949 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: I agree with that. If are you going to invoice 950 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 1: me for this? 951 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 5: No, because this isn't therapy. I this is me talking 952 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 5: to you as a human. I'm enjoying this, and you know, 953 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 5: to some degree my my therapy self is a bit 954 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 5: inseparable from my human self. But I'm certainly not operating 955 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 5: out of some kind of therapeutic orientation right now. I 956 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 5: really I do appreciate what you're what you're telling me, 957 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 5: and I am thinking about how I feel in my 958 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 5: life to how I deal with my stressors, and you know, 959 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 5: really digesting your question. So you know this is more 960 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 5: open and transparent than I would, well I would. It's 961 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 5: hard to say I'm pretty open in therapy session. Like 962 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 5: I said, I like to be pretty real and keep it, 963 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 5: keep it really to be really genuine in my session. 964 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 5: So but that being said, like, no, this is I'm 965 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 5: not not thinking in terms of therapy. I'm not like hypothesizing. 966 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 6: Anything or anything like that. 967 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,919 Speaker 1: Do you have do you have like a therapy brain 968 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 1: and a person brain where like, like if this was 969 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: a therapy session and I was telling you things, would 970 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: you be hypothesizing about certain things like diagnosing whatever it is? 971 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I definitely would be. I'm trained 972 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 5: to do like clinical interviewing, so there's sets of questions 973 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 5: that I asked for, you know, different diagnoses, and so 974 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 5: I'm really thinking about different diagnostic pictures. There's also structure 975 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 5: to my therapy sessions that you know, from session one 976 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 5: through session ten, in different stages of therapy and things 977 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 5: like that. So it really is much more structured and 978 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 5: clinical in that way I'm thinking in it, I don't 979 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 5: almost feels like a different part of my brain and 980 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 5: I am thinking about hypotheses. But I'm also telling my 981 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 5: clients too, like, hey, if if something comes to mind 982 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 5: as far as the diagnoses, I will be the first 983 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 5: person to talk to you about that. So I'm not 984 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 5: here to like hide that from you or anything. I 985 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 5: like to really be transparent about this sort of thing. 986 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: So what's wrong with me, Tiffany. 987 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 988 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 5: I wasn't thinking about it. I just really I am 989 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 5: like stars structs if I'm being completely honest, Like, I 990 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 5: got through the call and I was just like I 991 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 5: almost lost words what to say, you know, talking to 992 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 5: the streamer, and then at the end he's like, Okay, 993 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put you in the cue, but just so 994 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 5: you know, you might not get picked. 995 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 6: And then my heart dropped. 996 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 5: I made it this far and it might not get 997 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 5: through again. And I've tried calling many times, so it 998 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 5: was just like fingers crossed, hope I get through. And 999 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 5: so yeah, I'm really just kind of stoked. 1000 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Well, Tiffany, I'm so glad that you called. It's nice 1001 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: to hear a real therapist's perspective on this. 1002 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 1003 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm a fake therapist. I 1004 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: think I'm just a gecko guy. I think I say this. 1005 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't like the name therapy gecko. We're kind of 1006 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: just here chat and you know, exist and breathe on 1007 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: each other and whatnot. But thank you for sharing your perspective, Tiffany, 1008 01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: and for having this lovely com assation with me. Is 1009 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to say before we 1010 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: go to the people to the world. 1011 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 5: No, thank you, thanks for having me on. I'm super 1012 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 5: grateful and really happy and yeah, this just sort of 1013 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 5: made my night. So thank you. 1014 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 6: I hope you have a really awesome evening. 1015 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 5: And yeah, thank you for all you do. 1016 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tiffany. I will try have a good rest 1017 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: of the night. 1018 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 9: Thank you too. 1019 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 1: We did it. We talked to Tiffany. Hello, is this Gregory? 1020 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 3: That means are you Gregory. 1021 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 4: Doing good? 1022 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 5: Good? 1023 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 3: How about you? 1024 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing doing okay. 1025 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 8: You know you've come so different. I was just saying 1026 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 8: you sound so different maker and my phone verses on 1027 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 8: Twitch it's actually wild. 1028 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: What is your name? 1029 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 8: My name is greg What is your question about? 1030 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 2: My question? 1031 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 8: Well, I do have I I have one question and 1032 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 8: the story for you. I'm also I know you were 1033 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 8: talking a lot about you're a filmmaker and you started 1034 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 8: film school and stuff, and a question I have for 1035 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 8: you after just watching your chance for quite some time, 1036 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 8: what kind of film do you see yourself making? When 1037 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 8: I was do you want to get into directed? 1038 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: When I was thirteen years old, I decided I wanted 1039 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: to become a filmmaker. I made films with my friends 1040 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: throw all of high school, from when I was thirteen 1041 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: years old to like eighteen years old, all of Highchoo School, 1042 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: we made a bunch of films. And to this day, 1043 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 1: the process of making those movies is probably the hardest 1044 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 1: thing I've ever done in my entire life. I don't 1045 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 1: genuinely making trying because here's the thing. It's so hard 1046 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: to make a movie. There's so many things you have 1047 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 1: to do to like to do it, and when your 1048 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: crew is a bunch of fifteen year olds, it just 1049 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: it makes it harder. It's the hardest thing I've ever 1050 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 1: to do. And and then I went to film school 1051 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: and I made some films in college, and now I'm 1052 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: a podcast guy thing, and I don't, I don't, I 1053 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not gonna say I would never make 1054 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: another film again in my entire life. But I haven't 1055 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: thought about a kind of film I would I would 1056 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: make moving forward. You know, I'm not against it, but 1057 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,919 Speaker 1: it's one of those things. It's one of those things 1058 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 1: where I every like when I was I'm sure when 1059 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I was twenty I was like, when I'm twenty four, 1060 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a movie. And now I'm twenty four 1061 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 1: and I haven't made a movie. And now I'm like, 1062 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 1: when I'm in my late thirties, I'm gonna make a movie. 1063 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there. I'm not gonna make a movie, 1064 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: So it's never gonna happen. 1065 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 8: I thought you could take a happy you really wanted to, 1066 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 8: some kind of like comedy short film. Even I get 1067 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 8: see you making that happen. 1068 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 4: For sure, I'd like to. 1069 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: I'd like to make a movie at some point. I 1070 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 1: don't know if it would be a Gecko thing, but 1071 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: I like doing this. This is I will you know 1072 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: what I will say about this. It's a lot easier. 1073 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: And when I look for things to do in my life, 1074 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I just look for whatever is the least challenging. But Gregory, 1075 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: you said your name was yes, sir, Oh holy shit, 1076 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 1: I totally thought your name it was not Gregor. I 1077 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 1: made a wild guess. How can I get you this evening? 1078 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, So the main thing I wanted to throw at 1079 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 8: you is so I had my first official, official, like 1080 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 8: full ass adult relationship. It was like, I'm so yeah, 1081 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 8: I'm twenty three, and I never really like committed hardcore, 1082 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 8: had something very serious before. And I've learned so much 1083 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 8: about like my boundaries and like, yeah, just like who 1084 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 8: I am and also the things that truly matter the 1085 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 8: most to me and also kind of made me truly 1086 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 8: think about what my Yeah, well my real purpose is too, 1087 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 8: and what drives me is a human being. That's just 1088 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 8: been pretty incredible. But I you know, I recently broke 1089 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 8: up with my girlfriend about well, I guess she's my acidalit. Yeah, 1090 01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 8: it's been a month's actually, And what I wanted to 1091 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 8: run past you is I created such a healthy dynamics 1092 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 8: through the way I kind of have an outlook on 1093 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 8: life and how I just how my values are as 1094 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 8: a human being, where I always am about I'm about 1095 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 8: just being as considered as possible, communicating as much as 1096 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 8: possible and not letting emotions get to me, trying to always, yeah, 1097 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 8: to be communicative, considerate and constructive always and for me 1098 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 8: kind of enforcing that mindset with also just within the 1099 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 8: relationship with her, we kind of created this somewhat strange 1100 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 8: dynamic even after the breakup where we have yeah, well 1101 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 8: we are, chemistry is there. We still very deeply love 1102 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 8: each other, but like those red flags that would come 1103 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 8: across within that relationship are still there, and I'm trying 1104 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,759 Speaker 8: my best to maintain cranny creating some kind of friendship 1105 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 8: with the amount of like emotional investment is so deep 1106 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 8: where it just like it kills me just that you 1107 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 8: think about her eventually being with another person as well 1108 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 8: as she that has the same feelings towards me and 1109 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 8: with being another person. But we're both like honored ship 1110 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 8: trying to do our thing. 1111 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 4: We both are. 1112 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, so this is interesting. But I was thinking through yeah, 1113 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 8: through hearing all of that, do you think cre even 1114 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 8: creating that kind of dynamic in relationship with making that 1115 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 8: super healthy? 1116 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 5: It is? 1117 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,559 Speaker 8: What is the possibility I know that possibility is probably 1118 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 8: not so high of continuing some kind of friendship, but 1119 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 8: what's uh, yeah, what's your read on on creating that 1120 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 8: kind of safe space and that in that kind of 1121 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 8: intimacy and healthiness yet? Is it even possible? 1122 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:45,680 Speaker 1: My initial thoughts is, I think it's very cool that 1123 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 1: you've you've like gayined something from this relationship that you 1124 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 1: are taking with you. 1125 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 1126 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,599 Speaker 1: I don't feel like a relationship has to end good bad. 1127 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that the way in which relationship ended, 1128 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 1: whether it was good or is bad or it was neutral, 1129 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 1: can have any effect on whether or not you choose 1130 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,640 Speaker 1: to take something from it to benefit you as you 1131 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 1: forward in your life. And it sounds like you did 1132 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: that because you're saying to me, now that you've learned 1133 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 1: how to communicate better, your boundaries have gotten better, which 1134 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: is great. That's cool to hear because you can you 1135 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: can gain that, whether the relationship and the good or bad. 1136 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: So that's great, right, because if you're doing things in life, 1137 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: you might as well get something out of them, whether. 1138 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 3: Or bad. 1139 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 1: So I'm glad to hear that you got something out 1140 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: of it. That's the most important thing. I don't know 1141 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,600 Speaker 1: if it's the most important thing. I don't know what 1142 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the most important thing is. I'm go on the computer, 1143 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: but that is an important thing, all right. So you're 1144 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 1: so now you're in a point where you're like, should 1145 01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: I continue to have a relationship of any kind with 1146 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 1: this person? Because you still okay? So let me ask you, 1147 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 1: let me ask you something, or rather, my understanding is 1148 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 1: that you love her, she loves you, blah blah blah. 1149 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 1: You can't stand seeing each other as at and blah 1150 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,320 Speaker 1: blah blah. But you made the decision that now is 1151 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 1: not the right time that you have other things in 1152 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,680 Speaker 1: your life to pursue, so you amicably broke up. Is 1153 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 1: that an accurate ish a description of what's going on? 1154 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 8: I'll give you the rundown, the upgrade version, for sure. 1155 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 8: What ended up happening was, of course, you know, constructive 1156 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,759 Speaker 8: consider it right, you know. So what ended up happening 1157 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:49,919 Speaker 8: was I literally ripped my health, my finances, my identity 1158 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 8: to make this person happy. Who and this person had 1159 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 8: a very heavy indexpectation and I was so well still 1160 01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 8: I am still so in love and also had that 1161 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 8: those love goggles. I guess you can call it the 1162 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 8: facade of you know, like not seeing or well knowing 1163 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 8: the red flags and being aware of them but just 1164 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 8: diluting them, you know. And I know that's a pretty 1165 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 8: typical thing that we go through. But it got to 1166 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,879 Speaker 8: such a level where, yeah, like I so I graduated 1167 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 8: film school, right, and I made my big Decis film. 1168 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 8: I was getting some traction, and I was going through 1169 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,719 Speaker 8: doing editing gigs as well. So I'm sure you've also 1170 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:30,680 Speaker 8: experienced you know, Tom sud film stuff in general, and 1171 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 8: just tind of trying to find that balance, right, and yeah, no, 1172 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,360 Speaker 8: I noticed that. Yeah, it was just yeah, my life 1173 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 8: became trying to make her happy NonStop, and then I 1174 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 8: was depending on on yeah, depending on her, which is 1175 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 8: the first time ever I felt bad noticed as like 1176 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 8: I'd always yeah, I've always been so independent, and then 1177 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 8: I became dependent where it's like if she's happy, I'm happy, 1178 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 8: and it got really bad because I was just like 1179 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 8: selling merk me still time to loving. So one of 1180 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 8: that I'm happening is she she is she has some 1181 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 8: narcissistic tendencies, so she and some power kind of things. 1182 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,600 Speaker 8: So she kind of like definitely took advantage of my 1183 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 8: my kind heart and my nice you know, mentality, and 1184 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 8: that's just how this kind of like totally went backwards. 1185 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,280 Speaker 8: And what ended up happening is I took it to 1186 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 8: a whole other level where I love this person so 1187 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 8: much that I legit like wrote down journals all my 1188 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 8: thoughts trying to be as constructive as possible and helpful, 1189 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 8: and I literally like de coded why she says the 1190 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 8: certain things she does and why she's mean about certain things, 1191 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 8: and why like just like yeah, like I even provided 1192 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 8: all this. 1193 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,640 Speaker 1: And all this stuff. Was that was that stressful for you? 1194 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 7: Oh? 1195 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, of course, I'm balancing a few editing jobs, trying 1196 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,840 Speaker 8: to get a more stable job. And then I got yeah, 1197 01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 8: I want to go back. 1198 01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the I feel like 1199 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,680 Speaker 1: I I feel like I kind of get what's going 1200 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 1: I want to let's go to the present here. We're 1201 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:08,320 Speaker 1: in the present now. Okay, you're deciding whether or not 1202 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,040 Speaker 1: you want to remain friends with this person. 1203 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 8: And I know that there's just heavy investment, heavy love, 1204 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,599 Speaker 8: and there's like you said too, there's that there's still 1205 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 8: that love. But I'm fearful that I'm going to get 1206 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 8: just hurt more and more because this person seems like 1207 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,600 Speaker 8: they're slowly catching. 1208 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 1: One know the full scope of the relationship. And again 1209 01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm only a get go on the computer. But here's 1210 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 1: my thoughts. You have a level of a level of 1211 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: self awareness, a level of I don't know what you 1212 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,600 Speaker 1: would call it, but maybe maybe you would call it 1213 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: a desire for betterment, a lust for life, a lust 1214 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 1: for the future. I can see that within you because 1215 01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:02,679 Speaker 1: I can because you started this off by you started 1216 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 1: this off on a pretty positive note by saying that 1217 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,000 Speaker 1: you found something of value from this relationship, that you've learned, 1218 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 1: something you've learned. How to communicate better, how to set 1219 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 1: better boundaries. That's what you said. You've added to your 1220 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: emotional skill set. You, I can tell, are invested in 1221 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 1: making yourself a better person and growing and in looking 1222 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 1: to the future. I can see that in you, and 1223 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:42,720 Speaker 1: so I would say that if if you wish to 1224 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 1: continue investing in yourself moving forward, especially at the at 1225 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: this this beautiful age that you're at, that we're at. Essentially, 1226 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:02,759 Speaker 1: I don't see any reason to continue having this person 1227 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: in your life if much of what you can remember 1228 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 1: from their time in your life is just stressful and 1229 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 1: is a heavy level of investment and codependency and all 1230 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 1: the things that you have just now run down to us, right, 1231 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would, And it's not it's of course, 1232 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,560 Speaker 1: of course, easier said than done. But I think you 1233 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 1: can do it because you've shown us that you're a 1234 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: guy who cares about his own self development. I would 1235 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:44,679 Speaker 1: move and look past beyond this person into the great 1236 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 1: wide see of other people and experiences and opportunities that 1237 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 1: there are in life, as opposed to continuing to invest 1238 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,759 Speaker 1: and be further dependent upon this person. 1239 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 8: Understood, I appreciate that, and I feel that I am 1240 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 8: slowly going through that process, like I've gotten things back. 1241 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 5: I like that. 1242 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 8: I was fearful that I was going to get back, 1243 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,560 Speaker 8: Like I finally took action to commit to one of 1244 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 8: my next film projects, and I'm gonna start trying to 1245 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,639 Speaker 8: get it producers, investors going for that, and that's what's 1246 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,600 Speaker 8: kind of like, that's my purpose, that's who I am. 1247 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 8: So I'm like so excited for that, and that's kind 1248 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 8: of what's really keeping me going while balancing everything else. 1249 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 8: But yeah, it's just it's hard because there's just so 1250 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 8: much chemistry and love there and also she's not the 1251 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,880 Speaker 8: most she could be. She had some impulsive tendencies as 1252 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 8: will also shoot ends up like being mad at me. 1253 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry to cut you off, but there we go. 1254 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got, like you know, you've got your 1255 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 1: film projects. You've got I mean, you've got like you 1256 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 1: you have a you you are building what I like 1257 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 1: to call it diversified life portfolio, which is helpful because 1258 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 1: you said that you had dependency problems and I can 1259 01:17:59,040 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 1: hear in your voice. 1260 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,600 Speaker 7: I learned that. 1261 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 1: I can hear. I can hear, you can hear from 1262 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,240 Speaker 1: all the things you're saying you care about developing yourself. 1263 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 1: You care about building a diverse life portfolio, and I 1264 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: encourage you to continue caring about those things and taking 1265 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: actions down that path. What do you say anamas again? 1266 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:19,719 Speaker 7: Greg? 1267 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 8: Greg Or Gregory either or Greg? 1268 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: Good luck to you. And last thing I'm gonna tell 1269 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 1: you before we go, uh, don't wait for people to 1270 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,800 Speaker 1: give you as a film guy whatever. Don't wait for 1271 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 1: people to give you permission to make things. Just make 1272 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 1: them and put them on the internet. Okay, Gregor, I 1273 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,639 Speaker 1: hear you. Thank you for call. I'll talk to you soon. 1274 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:40,519 Speaker 6: Hello. 1275 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 1: Huh Hi, this is Courtney. 1276 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 6: What's up? 1277 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:49,439 Speaker 5: Uh? 1278 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Courtney? How can I get you this evening? 1279 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 6: I don't know how to answer that question. I've heard 1280 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,519 Speaker 6: you ask it a few times that I just didn't 1281 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 6: think it would ever happened to me. 1282 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: I you know, can I actually can I event to 1283 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,240 Speaker 1: you a little bit here? 1284 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 5: Ye see? 1285 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,599 Speaker 1: On one this is the real problem is the problem 1286 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,479 Speaker 1: is that on one hand, this is this is this 1287 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 1: is ultimately the problem of like I don't really know 1288 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:27,040 Speaker 1: what this stream is or what the goal of it 1289 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 1: is because on one hand, it's like it's free form 1290 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 1: conversations with people that don't have any sort that are 1291 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,120 Speaker 1: sort of boundaryless, right. But then on the other hand, 1292 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, look, if you're gonna call in, 1293 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,720 Speaker 1: you know I have something, you know, some something at 1294 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 1: least a little it's just easier if you have a 1295 01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: little bit of something you know. And also you did 1296 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: Here's another thing is you did tell you talk to 1297 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,439 Speaker 1: a call screener who I asked you what it is 1298 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about? And you did tell them 1299 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 1: something and it happened. And I don't I want to 1300 01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 1: know this from your perspective because I get callers all 1301 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 1: the time time who are like who, I say, how 1302 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: could what do you want to talk about? And they go, 1303 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't know? And I'm like, you just told you 1304 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 1: told the person what you want. Why are you telling 1305 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,800 Speaker 1: me that you don't know if you told the call 1306 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,519 Speaker 1: scare what it is you want to talk about. I'm 1307 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 1: not upset. I'm just I'm a little bit just baffled. 1308 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,680 Speaker 1: And I'm also on my end figuring out because all 1309 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day at all, it's my 1310 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 1: responsibility all this stuff. So on my end, I'm like, 1311 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 1: how do I what's the stand? What's the bar here? 1312 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 4: This? 1313 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 1: This makes sense? 1314 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 8: Right? 1315 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm not talking in loops. Right, this all makes sense? 1316 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was just wasn't sure if I wasn't 1317 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 6: supposed to just like jump into it, you know, like 1318 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:42,679 Speaker 6: I wasn't sure. 1319 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,519 Speaker 1: There's no there's no supposed to. There's no supposed to, 1320 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 1: there's no rules. Maybe maybe I don't know, maybe I 1321 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,560 Speaker 1: should set rules. There could be there could be a 1322 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: supposed to do. I could set rules. I could be 1323 01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 1: like I could. I was watching I was watching a 1324 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 1: little bit of doctor Drew's stuff because we're gonna have 1325 01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,760 Speaker 1: him on soon, and he's very much like caller, what's 1326 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 1: your question? Okay, thank you, all right, And then I 1327 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,720 Speaker 1: know it's a different style, but I'm like, well, I 1328 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what my style should be, 1329 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,000 Speaker 1: but I do. I always go back and forth on it. 1330 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,479 Speaker 1: But you did you did? You did tell the call 1331 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 1: screen or something you want to talk about? 1332 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,200 Speaker 6: I do, Yeah, I do. I wanted to tell you. 1333 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 6: I think it was when you had attorney Tom on. 1334 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,640 Speaker 6: You had a caller call in and they told you 1335 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 6: about the dude got pulled over and they found some 1336 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:41,160 Speaker 6: like weed in his car and dude ended up and 1337 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 6: he got a DUI for it. He told him that 1338 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 6: he told the cops that he hadn't smoked in like 1339 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 6: like two or three days or whatever, and they're like, oh, well, 1340 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 6: that's it, Like you still get a dui. And then 1341 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 6: recently I was running around door dashing and I had 1342 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 6: a roadblock on a Thursday night, which was super cool. 1343 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 6: And anyways, I had weed in my car and they 1344 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,280 Speaker 6: were like, oh cool, Well you have weed in your car. 1345 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 6: Are you high right now? 1346 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 5: And I was like no. 1347 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,680 Speaker 6: They're like, well, when's the last time you smoked? And 1348 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 6: I was like, well, it's been like like a couple 1349 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 6: of weeks. And they're like, well, you have weed in 1350 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 6: your car and like a bowl in your car and 1351 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 6: you just say you haven't smoked, and I was like no, 1352 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,080 Speaker 6: and just because I remembered the episode to make sure 1353 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,760 Speaker 6: to say that it had been a long time since 1354 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 6: I had smoked. And they gave me like a field 1355 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,640 Speaker 6: sobriety test anyways, but they're like they go and I 1356 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,720 Speaker 6: didn't get it to UA. Oh yeah, yeah, they let 1357 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 6: me go. She said that she thought I was high, 1358 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,200 Speaker 6: but she thought I was good to drive anyways, But 1359 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:44,600 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1360 01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:44,880 Speaker 2: How you. 1361 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:52,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I despite I might get 1362 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 1: some flag for this. But did you ever just forget 1363 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,479 Speaker 1: the driving high is super illegal? 1364 01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:58,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1365 01:22:58,760 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 8: It doesn't. 1366 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's easy to everyone knows that. Everyone knows that, like, okay, 1367 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 1: everyone knows that driving drunk is super illegal. It's one 1368 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,479 Speaker 1: of those I was talking about this. I think I 1369 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: was talking about this on stream the other day. It's 1370 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,000 Speaker 1: a very similar thing with texting and driving, like like 1371 01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:19,280 Speaker 1: like texting and driving is like you ever on it, okay, 1372 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:23,120 Speaker 1: because the whole the whole thing is like you shouldn't 1373 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:26,440 Speaker 1: text and drive. So when you're like going through Spotify 1374 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,679 Speaker 1: trying to change the song and you're on your phone, 1375 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 1: it's like you somehow differentiate that from texting, even though 1376 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,479 Speaker 1: it's the same fucking thing, just because of the messaging. 1377 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 1: Driving high it's like it's dui. It's super legal, totally 1378 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 1: as illegal as driving drunk, but you just forget because 1379 01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 1: no one ever Yeah. 1380 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like I hear you, I absolutely hear you, 1381 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 6: and I totally agree. But also I got it right 1382 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 6: for the most part until I don't, but I had it. 1383 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm even looking at the chat people. Driving high is 1384 01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,519 Speaker 1: definitely not good, but driving drunk is way worse. 1385 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 4: It. 1386 01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. 1387 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just forget all the time that 1388 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:17,720 Speaker 1: it's uh illegal. 1389 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like I'm not it's not defense. 1390 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,400 Speaker 1: I know people try to defend it, and it's like 1391 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: I get it because it's like it's at the end 1392 01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: of the day, it's not defensible. It's not defensible at all. 1393 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 1: But I do forget this. 1394 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,480 Speaker 6: Right, right, Like I'm not like, you can't you can't defend. 1395 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 1: Say, you can't be like, Okay, driving high is not 1396 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:47,360 Speaker 1: as bad as driving drunk, it's not, but you can't 1397 01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 1: defend it. There's no without that, without being a crazy person. 1398 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I mean like you kind of feel like 1399 01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 6: an honest band like. 1400 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:04,720 Speaker 1: Trying to I've I yeah, yeah, you can't, and I 1401 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't ever do that. 1402 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:09,560 Speaker 6: You shouldn't know. 1403 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 8: It's round. 1404 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 6: It's totally frowned upon. But it's likely to die and 1405 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:15,240 Speaker 6: kill other people. 1406 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Oh, do you less likely to die and kill other people? 1407 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, when you're driving sober, you're pretty likely to 1408 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:22,760 Speaker 1: die and kill other people. 1409 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,880 Speaker 6: But yeah, like ninety seven percent more likely than you 1410 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,719 Speaker 6: are to die in your room. We were talking about 1411 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:29,439 Speaker 6: this the other day. 1412 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so. 1413 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,840 Speaker 1: You know I would not I would not endorse it, 1414 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 1: but I it's one of those things. It's one of 1415 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,800 Speaker 1: those things. Someone said riding a motorcycle of mushrooms is 1416 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,879 Speaker 1: super fun. That sounds horrible. 1417 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 4: Man. 1418 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 1: This is why I want to place I can use 1419 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,600 Speaker 1: the subway, man, because the subway you can get. You 1420 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,960 Speaker 1: can you can you can be, you can be up on, 1421 01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: you get as fucked up as you want. On this 1422 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 1: you can get no way, dude, that's believe on the 1423 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 1: subway and no one cares. 1424 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,720 Speaker 6: The first time my best friend ever did acid, we 1425 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,720 Speaker 6: were she drove like we thought it was going to 1426 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,640 Speaker 6: take like an hour to kick in, because that's what 1427 01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 6: dude said. And then we had like a forty five 1428 01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 6: minute drive home, so we were like, sweet, we'll take 1429 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,960 Speaker 6: it now and then like fifteen minutes after we get home, 1430 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,479 Speaker 6: we'll start tripping. And it kicked in in like fifteen 1431 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,920 Speaker 6: twenty minutes. Oh yeah, oh yeah. She like threw up 1432 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 6: like a whole shit time. As soon as we got 1433 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 6: like where we were going. 1434 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,120 Speaker 2: It was terrible. 1435 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 6: I was freaking out. The passenger seat had a great time. 1436 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,640 Speaker 1: Well, Courtney, what what do we think? I know I 1437 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 1: sort of talked a little bit over you in this 1438 01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:49,920 Speaker 1: What do you. What do you think Do you think 1439 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 1: we are coming away? Do you think we're coming out 1440 01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,040 Speaker 1: of this? But you and me not? Just don't just 1441 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:56,720 Speaker 1: think about it. If you learned anything, think about if 1442 01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 1: I learned anything. Do you think either of us learned 1443 01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 1: anything from this conversation? 1444 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 4: H mm hmmm. 1445 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:11,559 Speaker 6: No, I have learned nothing. Yeah, no, I've learned nothing. 1446 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 6: But maybe you've learned something. Yeah, yeah, But that's all right. 1447 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:20,840 Speaker 8: We were I don't know. 1448 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 1: That was like a bull that you had that I 1449 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 1: established it at the beginning. There's no supposed to is 1450 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:26,519 Speaker 1: in this? 1451 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1452 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,520 Speaker 1: No, I supposed to beautiful? Have a good according. 1453 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 8: Yeah you too? 1454 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:35,040 Speaker 6: Get bye? 1455 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:44,040 Speaker 2: Hello, listen, Hello, Hi, what's up? 1456 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 4: Can you hear me? 1457 01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 1: Tyler? 1458 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1459 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:56,599 Speaker 1: How's it going? 1460 01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 7: How's it going? 1461 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,080 Speaker 1: It's going good, It's going good. 1462 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 7: You look a bit stressed? 1463 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Do I really? 1464 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 4: You do? 1465 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 7: Like you're annoyed with some callers today? 1466 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't do. What about can you like sort of 1467 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 1: cut to the bone about what about that is? 1468 01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:22,680 Speaker 2: Like? Like? 1469 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Is it is it my body language? Is it my 1470 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:25,559 Speaker 1: tone of voice? 1471 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:25,640 Speaker 4: Like? 1472 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,040 Speaker 1: What what is it that's that's signaling that too? 1473 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:32,639 Speaker 7: Maybe your body language? 1474 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,639 Speaker 1: I feel like my body language is pretty like stagnant, 1475 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,920 Speaker 1: like I don't pretty calm. Yeah, I feel like it's 1476 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 1: pretty calm. I mean it's is it my It's got 1477 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,120 Speaker 1: to be a tone of voice thing, because I actually 1478 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 1: I kind of see it to myself a little bit. 1479 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:56,599 Speaker 7: No, I think you're good, but seeing a little stressed, 1480 01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,120 Speaker 7: like maybe you don't want to do phone calls for 1481 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:01,960 Speaker 7: a while and do cooking. 1482 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I don't really know if I 1483 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 1: can cook anything. 1484 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:09,800 Speaker 7: It's pretty good. 1485 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:12,880 Speaker 1: I have to pee, maybe that. 1486 01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 2: Could be it. 1487 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:17,400 Speaker 7: Gotta have confidence in your cooking. Yeah, no, don't drink 1488 01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:17,760 Speaker 7: your pea. 1489 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:29,960 Speaker 1: Jackson Jackson. 1490 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,600 Speaker 8: Jackson, Oh, Tyler. 1491 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:37,559 Speaker 7: Yes, sir? 1492 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:38,120 Speaker 1: What's up? 1493 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,000 Speaker 7: What do you think about the trucking industry? 1494 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,839 Speaker 1: What do I think about the trucking industry? 1495 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 7: Like? 1496 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:46,799 Speaker 1: What are my opinions? 1497 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:47,240 Speaker 4: Like in what? 1498 01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,759 Speaker 1: In what sense? The odd? Actually, you don't even that whatever, 1499 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,560 Speaker 1: whatever sense, whatever sense you would be referring to. I 1500 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,400 Speaker 1: have no opinion on it. I've never driven a truck myself. 1501 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:03,080 Speaker 1: I haven't interacted with many trucks, and I I don't 1502 01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:04,360 Speaker 1: I don't have that much of a depinion on it, 1503 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 1: to be honest. 1504 01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 7: Well, I am a truck driver. I was wondering what's 1505 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:13,880 Speaker 7: your thoughts on road rage? 1506 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 1: M Hm, Tyler, is this are you asking me your thoughts? 1507 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:21,040 Speaker 5: Are you? 1508 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:22,760 Speaker 1: Are you asking me my thoughts? And I'm this is 1509 01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:26,720 Speaker 1: not a hostile response. I'm genuinely genuine curious. Are you 1510 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:31,560 Speaker 1: asking me these questions to set up your thoughts on 1511 01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:35,600 Speaker 1: the trucking industry and road rage? Because you don't have 1512 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,719 Speaker 1: to do that. You can just tell me your thoughts industry. 1513 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 1: You can just you can just tell you can just 1514 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,000 Speaker 1: tell me. We don't have to you don't have to 1515 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 1: set it up, like what do you think? Here's what 1516 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 1: I think. 1517 01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,360 Speaker 7: You can just tell it wasn't necessarily set up to that. 1518 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,400 Speaker 1: I didn't say that to be a dif just why 1519 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:54,840 Speaker 1: to let you know, no, no. 1520 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 5: You're good. 1521 01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:01,559 Speaker 7: I didn't catch that at all. Anyways, Alma, truck driver 1522 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:11,120 Speaker 7: deal with a love distracted drivers out there, which is 1523 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,680 Speaker 7: kind of unfortunate. See a lot of people texting and driving. 1524 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:16,600 Speaker 1: About one hundred. 1525 01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:18,360 Speaker 7: Driving. 1526 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,080 Speaker 1: You know what is a horrible thing that I do 1527 01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,760 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people do is I 1528 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:30,920 Speaker 1: think the whole, the whole, it's the dumbest thing of 1529 01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:35,560 Speaker 1: all time, the whole texting, the sentiment as like we 1530 01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,680 Speaker 1: should not text and drive, right, that's been like it's 1531 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,160 Speaker 1: on the billboards, is what the PSAs are. No texting 1532 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:48,920 Speaker 1: and driving. So people now have it in their head subconsciously. 1533 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:54,960 Speaker 1: If you're using your phone but you're not texting, it's fine. 1534 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,280 Speaker 1: Like you can like in the Instagram. If you're on 1535 01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,360 Speaker 1: Instagram and you're like talking to someone of her d 1536 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,439 Speaker 1: MS while you're in the car, it's fine. You're not 1537 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:05,920 Speaker 1: texting your Instagram direct messaging and driving. There's no billboard that. 1538 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 1: If you're changing the song on your on your iPod, 1539 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,439 Speaker 1: there's no billboard against that. You know, if you're watching 1540 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:21,880 Speaker 1: TikTok while driving, no billboard. So as long as you're 1541 01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:26,479 Speaker 1: not like literally texting, even if you're if you're messaging 1542 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 1: someone with another iPhone, that's not texting and driving. That's 1543 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,280 Speaker 1: eye message. That's fine. There's no law. 1544 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:39,880 Speaker 7: Against that, no billboard up on it. But I do 1545 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:40,800 Speaker 7: call those people in. 1546 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:48,559 Speaker 1: You call them in. Oh yeah, you seem to have. 1547 01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 7: Some pretty almost pretty damn close. 1548 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 1: Accidents, really, but on account of people texting. 1549 01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:59,400 Speaker 7: And driving, oh yeah, swervings almost sides swapping each other 1550 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 7: changing lanes at the same time, but they're both texting 1551 01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:06,800 Speaker 7: and drive not paying attention. It's ridiculous. It's stressful out there. 1552 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 1: To be honest, it says here that sometimes it says 1553 01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 1: here sometimes that you will see people jerking off in traffic. 1554 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:17,840 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I've seen it like twice. 1555 01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,840 Speaker 8: Now, Oh my. 1556 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,120 Speaker 1: God, I feel there. Hold on, I could have sworn 1557 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:27,400 Speaker 1: there was a caller in the queue who wanted to 1558 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,200 Speaker 1: talk about how he jerked off in traffic. 1559 01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:33,040 Speaker 7: Fuck that guy. 1560 01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:39,120 Speaker 1: Hold on, it's wait when you say when you say jerking, 1561 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:43,679 Speaker 1: I don't mean the person tim Was there a caller 1562 01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,519 Speaker 1: who wanted to jerk off in traffic? I swore I 1563 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:49,200 Speaker 1: could have sworn I saw it a call with that. 1564 01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,759 Speaker 7: It's so, I guess more power to him, but pay attention. 1565 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Well, okay, when you say jerking off trafficks, do you 1566 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:03,680 Speaker 1: mean jerking off like in when we say traffic, like 1567 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,840 Speaker 1: how is the cars moving? 1568 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,679 Speaker 4: Or are we like in traffic traffic in cities? 1569 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:14,599 Speaker 1: Oh okay, So we're not talking like you know, moving 1570 01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:20,200 Speaker 1: very slowly traffic. We're talking like you know, at a 1571 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:20,720 Speaker 1: red light. 1572 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:23,160 Speaker 7: It's not faster. 1573 01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So jerking off while your car is going seventy 1574 01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:26,639 Speaker 1: miles an. 1575 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,519 Speaker 7: Hour, damn right? 1576 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 1: Better than texting because you don't have to look because 1577 01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,960 Speaker 1: you don't have I disagree, because you can just you 1578 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,960 Speaker 1: can because you can look forward and masturbate while driving, 1579 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:45,799 Speaker 1: but you can if you're on texting. 1580 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:46,400 Speaker 4: You have to. 1581 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,680 Speaker 1: You have to, you know, you have to look at 1582 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:51,080 Speaker 1: your phone. 1583 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,600 Speaker 7: Well, what's jerking off them? There was one guy that 1584 01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,240 Speaker 7: was watching porn while jerking while driving down the road. 1585 01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,240 Speaker 7: This was at night, so I could see clearly into 1586 01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:03,639 Speaker 7: his car. 1587 01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 1: Mmm, and no. Part of it was like it's kind 1588 01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:11,439 Speaker 1: of efficient. 1589 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,519 Speaker 7: Part of me was like it was kind of efficient. 1590 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,559 Speaker 7: But at the same time I was like, come on, man, 1591 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,320 Speaker 7: so you maintaining his lane all too well? 1592 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,040 Speaker 1: And so you said you you typically report people like that. 1593 01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:32,400 Speaker 7: I did not report those two. 1594 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,599 Speaker 1: Who was the who was the last person that you reported? 1595 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,839 Speaker 7: Another trucker actually littering? 1596 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,360 Speaker 1: You're reporting them for littering. And when you when you 1597 01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:58,080 Speaker 1: make these reports, what typically follows? Are these reports actioned 1598 01:35:58,160 --> 01:35:59,400 Speaker 1: upon or are they forgotten? 1599 01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,920 Speaker 7: I think the littering one was forgotten about. But one 1600 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 7: I was a reckless drunk driver. I'm pretty sure he 1601 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,559 Speaker 7: was swerving hard through traffic. People were having a hard 1602 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,439 Speaker 7: time passing him. I called his ass in up in 1603 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,559 Speaker 7: Missouri and they ended up catching him. 1604 01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:18,479 Speaker 4: M hmm. 1605 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so one of our reports was actioned upon and 1606 01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 1: they were he was successfully caught. 1607 01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, but with tex texting drivers because I've never seen 1608 01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,320 Speaker 7: him actually pulled over because usually most of time they're 1609 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,160 Speaker 7: going the same way I am, I figured because they 1610 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 7: get off at an exit before an officer could get him. 1611 01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,639 Speaker 1: Well, well, okay, wait, hold on, hold. 1612 01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,960 Speaker 7: On, even if I call people in so you're. 1613 01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So you're driving in your truck, right 1614 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,240 Speaker 1: and you look to your left and you see somebody 1615 01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:56,000 Speaker 1: texting and driving, and you go, I'm going to report 1616 01:36:56,040 --> 01:37:05,160 Speaker 1: this person. It's like, but how do you report them? 1617 01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,760 Speaker 7: I have a headset that I use booth connected to 1618 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:12,240 Speaker 7: my phone. 1619 01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna say, this feels like because it's 1620 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:19,120 Speaker 1: sort of a situation where like a cop, if they 1621 01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,960 Speaker 1: want to pull over somebody who's speeding, what do they do? 1622 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,280 Speaker 1: They got a speed speed to catch up with them 1623 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 1: to pull them over. 1624 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:28,000 Speaker 7: Yep. 1625 01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,680 Speaker 1: I hate driving. I I I if I could never 1626 01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,559 Speaker 1: if I could never get into a car ever again 1627 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,400 Speaker 1: but still be able to live a full life, I 1628 01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,800 Speaker 1: would love that. But I I I truly hate cars 1629 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:50,280 Speaker 1: because you're You're right. Everyone's out there, texting, eating, jerking off, 1630 01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:57,800 Speaker 1: getting drunk, getting hot, all the stuff, and you know, 1631 01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:59,760 Speaker 1: and and I get and look, I get, I get. 1632 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,479 Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of time in the car. 1633 01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot of your time. You can't you're there. 1634 01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,000 Speaker 1: People were trying to make this into a live time. 1635 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,519 Speaker 1: It's it's typically dead time that we give of our 1636 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,680 Speaker 1: lives to traffic, So why not lighten the time by 1637 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,519 Speaker 1: jerking off and getting high and eating food, you know, 1638 01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,200 Speaker 1: the stuff we would do if we weren't in our car. 1639 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,960 Speaker 7: Put all that stuff down and just pay attention to 1640 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,320 Speaker 7: life and live in the moment. 1641 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:30,120 Speaker 1: Get out of here. 1642 01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:35,000 Speaker 7: Who wants to do that, right, not in this day 1643 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:35,320 Speaker 7: and age? 1644 01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:42,719 Speaker 1: Tyler, Do you have any Do you have any other thoughts, feelings, sentiments, questions, commons, 1645 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,840 Speaker 1: concerns that you wish to share before we go? This 1646 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:46,920 Speaker 1: was a good call. I enjoyed hearing your perspective on 1647 01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:47,360 Speaker 1: these things. 1648 01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:55,120 Speaker 7: Another thing, Please drivers that did it's just a NonStop thing. 1649 01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,200 Speaker 4: Please us truckers. 1650 01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:01,320 Speaker 7: We wait well. In the industry that I'm in, I 1651 01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,519 Speaker 7: can weigh up to eighty thousand pounds, and we got drivers, 1652 01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,640 Speaker 7: young drivers mostly that will cut in front of us 1653 01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 7: at the last second to get their exit or just 1654 01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,040 Speaker 7: to merge back in front of us when we're coming 1655 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,639 Speaker 7: up to a stoplight or something. It takes us about 1656 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,640 Speaker 7: two football fields and more to stop that thing. And 1657 01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 7: that's why there's so many accidents because people don't give 1658 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:25,320 Speaker 7: us a space in front. It's important to do that, 1659 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,240 Speaker 7: otherwise they're gonna be a pancake. 1660 01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:29,639 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1661 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know how you. I don't even know 1662 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,120 Speaker 1: how you drive that big ass truck around. They're too big. 1663 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:35,840 Speaker 1: I can only do a tiny little time. 1664 01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:37,000 Speaker 7: I've been driving a long time. 1665 01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,120 Speaker 1: Well, I hope you drive for even longer. 1666 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:42,599 Speaker 7: I'm pretty confident with my drivings. 1667 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,840 Speaker 1: Well, Tyler, I hope you drive long and forever into 1668 01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,760 Speaker 1: the sunset. And uh, I hope you have a wonder 1669 01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:51,760 Speaker 1: for us of the night. Thank you. 1670 01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:57,320 Speaker 7: That's beautiful. Hey you too, shout out. It's a powerful condor. 1671 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:04,600 Speaker 1: Have a good night, Tyler, he as well. Now, I 1672 01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,559 Speaker 1: don't want to be the guy who is driving behind 1673 01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,880 Speaker 1: the guy jerking off and he comes out the window 1674 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:12,720 Speaker 1: and then you just drive into it and it gets 1675 01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:16,840 Speaker 1: all over your windshield. That's where I think things could 1676 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,840 Speaker 1: go wrong. You ever played Mario Clark DS. You know 1677 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,960 Speaker 1: the squid item where you prep you do it and 1678 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:34,840 Speaker 1: it makes like ink go on everyone's screen. It's like that, 1679 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:43,760 Speaker 1: but with come, I don't know what I'm talking about. Hello, Hello, 1680 01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:45,240 Speaker 1: How are you? 1681 01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:47,120 Speaker 4: This therapy? 1682 01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:52,240 Speaker 1: Is this mister V. 1683 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:55,759 Speaker 8: This is mister V speaking. 1684 01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:57,080 Speaker 4: How are you tonight? 1685 01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm all right? How are you? 1686 01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,840 Speaker 4: Could be better, could be worse, could be worse. 1687 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,240 Speaker 1: Totally, could always be better, totally, could always be worse, 1688 01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:19,519 Speaker 1: mister V. H How could it be worse? 1689 01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:23,719 Speaker 4: How could it be worse? 1690 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,400 Speaker 8: Yes, well, I guess it goes to the root of 1691 01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:30,800 Speaker 8: why I'm calling in today, is uh. I used to 1692 01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,280 Speaker 8: be a teacher and I quit my job, and it's 1693 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:37,559 Speaker 8: been about a year now and I'm doing something completely different, 1694 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,599 Speaker 8: and I feel like my brain is turning into mush. 1695 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:46,280 Speaker 8: To be quite honest, I feel like I'm getting dumber 1696 01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,160 Speaker 8: and dumber by the day with my new job, even 1697 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:54,160 Speaker 8: though I get more money and I have literally zero responsibilities. 1698 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,720 Speaker 8: But it's kind of weird. It's kind of weird now 1699 01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,280 Speaker 8: where I go home and I do this hard labor, 1700 01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,840 Speaker 8: and I come home and I and I look in 1701 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:05,680 Speaker 8: my room and I see all these books I used 1702 01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:07,840 Speaker 8: to read. I'm like, what happened to that guy? 1703 01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:12,000 Speaker 1: Mmmmmmm? Why did you? 1704 01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:15,240 Speaker 8: And I hear about how schools are all I'll go ahead. 1705 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:16,760 Speaker 1: No, no, no, please, I want to hear. I want 1706 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,240 Speaker 1: to hear the rest of of what you're saying. 1707 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just hear about how schools they're all super 1708 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 8: messed up, even getting worse. And I'm just like, well, 1709 01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 8: I'm glad I'm not there, but I just I have 1710 01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:35,519 Speaker 8: like this inner need to go teach again. I just 1711 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,240 Speaker 8: I need adults who can't do like falpilcation and really 1712 01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,000 Speaker 8: bad geography. I'm just like, why am I here? I 1713 01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,960 Speaker 8: should be, you know, teaching people fundamental skills. 1714 01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:46,000 Speaker 4: M M. 1715 01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,080 Speaker 1: That's super interesting. So okay, so how long ago did 1716 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:51,040 Speaker 1: you leave your teaching job. 1717 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,639 Speaker 8: It's it's it's gonna be a year now, okay. 1718 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,800 Speaker 1: And you are saying that you're getting paid more and 1719 01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:05,040 Speaker 1: that you have less responsibilities, which are two things that 1720 01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,120 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people look for in gigs. 1721 01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,000 Speaker 1: Is more money for less work. 1722 01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:11,280 Speaker 6: Is that the. 1723 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,880 Speaker 1: Main reason why you jump ship from being a teacher 1724 01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,639 Speaker 1: is because the software had more money and less work. 1725 01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,720 Speaker 8: I know, I mostly jumped ship from teaching because like 1726 01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,639 Speaker 8: it was a good, cozy job. Yeah, it was pretty cool. 1727 01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,200 Speaker 8: I got the summers off, I got a pretty decent 1728 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:34,439 Speaker 8: salary and whatever. But COVID hit and turn everything upside down, 1729 01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,840 Speaker 8: and then I got paid the tame to do like 1730 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,800 Speaker 8: way more work. To be honest, I know people think 1731 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,960 Speaker 8: teachers just said at home, but it was like pretty 1732 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,240 Speaker 8: intense to go from like a lot of social interaction 1733 01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:51,840 Speaker 8: to virtual interaction. And yeah, and I kind of got 1734 01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:55,160 Speaker 8: fed up with like the federal unemployment system. So like 1735 01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 8: I was like a third year teacher, and the people 1736 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,960 Speaker 8: who were getting the federal unemployment during the time of 1737 01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,519 Speaker 8: the pandemic, we're pretty much getting the same amount of 1738 01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,360 Speaker 8: money I was getting as a teacher. But I was 1739 01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:12,679 Speaker 8: devoting myself five days a week right online whatever, nine 1740 01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:16,040 Speaker 8: hours a day plus grading and planning all day on Sunday. 1741 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,439 Speaker 8: And I just thought, well, this is bullshit. Fuck the system. 1742 01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,720 Speaker 8: But at the same time, I'm just like, well, how 1743 01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 8: do I reach these kids to make sure they can 1744 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,920 Speaker 8: go off to get decent careers and not get ripped 1745 01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:33,400 Speaker 8: off by like the ice cream man or no basic geography. 1746 01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:39,080 Speaker 1: I guess, so it sounds as though you have I 1747 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:43,439 Speaker 1: mean aside from just money, you have external desires. You 1748 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:47,080 Speaker 1: wish to help people and have a genuine desire to 1749 01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,799 Speaker 1: educate them, to reach these kids. 1750 01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:51,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was. 1751 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:54,720 Speaker 4: I would I would say so. 1752 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,120 Speaker 8: I would say so. And when you first just like, well, 1753 01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:06,080 Speaker 8: like it's kind of weird to be honest, like being 1754 01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,080 Speaker 8: a dude teacher and like kind of like doing bro 1755 01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,040 Speaker 8: things like I'm ripping my jewel and drinking a beer 1756 01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 8: right now. But like you would meet these older teacher dudes, right, 1757 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,160 Speaker 8: You meet these older dudes, and I was like, I 1758 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 8: don't really want to end up like these guys. You know, 1759 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,639 Speaker 8: that looks kind of crappy, you know what I mean. 1760 01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,280 Speaker 8: But then I look at the people at my new job, 1761 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,120 Speaker 8: I'm like, I don't want to end up. 1762 01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,400 Speaker 7: Like these people either. It sucks too. 1763 01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:36,400 Speaker 8: So I feel like it's just like a lose lose 1764 01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,920 Speaker 8: situation across the board. But at least I'm getting more money. 1765 01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:41,880 Speaker 3: But I work. 1766 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,640 Speaker 8: I'm like from the Midwest, and like I work now 1767 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,680 Speaker 8: in like an automobile factory, and I do like the 1768 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:52,160 Speaker 8: same thing over like six hundred times a day. As 1769 01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,920 Speaker 8: much as like it was fun at the beginning, like oh, 1770 01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,840 Speaker 8: this is like super easy I just get paid to 1771 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,639 Speaker 8: do this. But then after a while you're like, wow, 1772 01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:02,120 Speaker 8: like my brain is mush. 1773 01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,920 Speaker 1: Right now, like so so so hold on, hold, I 1774 01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:06,240 Speaker 1: want to stop. I want to stop you real quick. 1775 01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:11,000 Speaker 1: So you said that. You So you're at this teaching 1776 01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:17,000 Speaker 1: job and you're having uh whatever COVID's going on, the 1777 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:21,720 Speaker 1: gig is changing all these sort of things, and you 1778 01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:25,639 Speaker 1: have these older teachers that you're looking at, and you're 1779 01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,080 Speaker 1: looking at them and you're going, I don't know if 1780 01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,160 Speaker 1: I want to be this guy when I'm you know, 1781 01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:34,320 Speaker 1: sixty years old. Whatever it is? What what is it 1782 01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,840 Speaker 1: about the older teachers that you look at and you 1783 01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,720 Speaker 1: see and it makes you go, I don't, I don't, 1784 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want that. 1785 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,160 Speaker 8: Well, there was two case scenarios. We'll call him mister 1786 01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,880 Speaker 8: X and mister Y. Right, let's call mister X the 1787 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,479 Speaker 8: good guy. Right, he was married, he had to get kids. 1788 01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:00,320 Speaker 8: But you can tell mister X, like, you know, he 1789 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:04,040 Speaker 8: didn't have like nice things. He drove a beat up, 1790 01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,240 Speaker 8: you know, minivan. I'm pretty sure he probably struggled to 1791 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,640 Speaker 8: pay the bills. And you know that I don't want 1792 01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,040 Speaker 8: to live a life like that, you know, taking care 1793 01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,000 Speaker 8: of my kids on a teacher salary. 1794 01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:15,759 Speaker 2: You know, it kind of sucks. 1795 01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,600 Speaker 8: But then there was mister Why. And mister Why was 1796 01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:23,920 Speaker 8: like the long term playboy bachelor who takes trips to 1797 01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:29,000 Speaker 8: the Netherlands in Columbia to do god knows what. And 1798 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:30,680 Speaker 8: I'm like, well, I don't want to end up like that. 1799 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,840 Speaker 4: Either, because that's a really shallow. 1800 01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:38,320 Speaker 8: Existence, you know. I'm like, that's like, that's even though 1801 01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:41,080 Speaker 8: they're completely polar opposites. I'm like, I feel that's you're 1802 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:43,799 Speaker 8: gonna be one or the other. And they both sucked. 1803 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, why why do you feel as though you 1804 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:54,160 Speaker 1: can only be one or the other? 1805 01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,519 Speaker 8: I just I mean, like, well, I mean on a 1806 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,720 Speaker 8: teacher's salary, it's kind of hard to kind of really 1807 01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:06,439 Speaker 8: do anything, to be quite honest. So like it's either 1808 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:10,200 Speaker 8: you live for yourself only yourself, like you do your 1809 01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:13,080 Speaker 8: thing for the kids, obviously, but you really only live 1810 01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:16,560 Speaker 8: for yourself because you really don't make that much, or 1811 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:18,720 Speaker 8: like you kind of do like the whole family thing. 1812 01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:23,200 Speaker 8: But then like when it's bill time, like fuck, like 1813 01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,080 Speaker 8: how am I going to do this? Like how am 1814 01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:26,920 Speaker 8: I going to put my kids through college? 1815 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:32,799 Speaker 1: Mister V what's what what what's important to you? Because 1816 01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,000 Speaker 1: I know that you're looking at the and and I 1817 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 1: understand this. I understand this for sure. It's nice to 1818 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:42,080 Speaker 1: have like models of you know what could be, but 1819 01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,519 Speaker 1: when you really think about it and you think about 1820 01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,280 Speaker 1: your life and you think about your options and you 1821 01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,479 Speaker 1: think about you know what, what is important to you? 1822 01:48:53,920 --> 01:49:00,400 Speaker 8: What's important to me is uh family, having like nice things, 1823 01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:04,200 Speaker 8: working hard, I guess, and being smart. I guess like 1824 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:07,280 Speaker 8: I like to use my brain. I feel like I 1825 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,479 Speaker 8: feel like this job like underutilizes me so much. I'm 1826 01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:14,560 Speaker 8: like I look like I don't know. I guess, like 1827 01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:17,600 Speaker 8: because it's been a whole year, right, and I like 1828 01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:22,439 Speaker 8: didn't teach. I had zero responsibilities. I had no I 1829 01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:25,120 Speaker 8: had zero like community commitment where I had to be 1830 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,719 Speaker 8: like a role model citizen at the CPS and stuff 1831 01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,120 Speaker 8: like I could do whatever I want, Like I grew 1832 01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:33,840 Speaker 8: my hair out right, wore different shoes, like, wore different 1833 01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:36,720 Speaker 8: clothes like it was sweet. But then like as the 1834 01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,599 Speaker 8: year went on, I'm like, fuck, like kind of want 1835 01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,080 Speaker 8: some responsibilities. But then people look at the like you're 1836 01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:43,759 Speaker 8: fucking crazy. 1837 01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:50,280 Speaker 1: Well well, well, okay, so you say you have twenty 1838 01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:52,560 Speaker 1: six as well, okay, so you say you have not 1839 01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,800 Speaker 1: no responsibilities, but relatively minor responsibilities at this new gig. 1840 01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:00,720 Speaker 2: Yes, So. 1841 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what would stop you then from trying 1842 01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:13,439 Speaker 1: to get creative because you seem like you're a creative 1843 01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:16,320 Speaker 1: guy and somebody can use your brain. I feel like 1844 01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:22,599 Speaker 1: for you, there could be a creative way on whatever 1845 01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:28,240 Speaker 1: your off time is to find a new type of venture. 1846 01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know what it would be. I'm not 1847 01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,560 Speaker 1: going to give you any sort of example because I 1848 01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,559 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I just want to like plant 1849 01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:40,160 Speaker 1: the seed in your head of like that it's that 1850 01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:43,439 Speaker 1: it's possible. That's something to think about, Like what what 1851 01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:47,120 Speaker 1: would be the venture on the side for you that 1852 01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 1: would allow you to use your brain, that would allow 1853 01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:55,720 Speaker 1: you to form a community? And I feel like, and 1854 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:59,080 Speaker 1: again I'm playing armchair Gecko therapist here, but there's a 1855 01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:03,920 Speaker 1: there's a very very narrow binary thinking here of like 1856 01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,439 Speaker 1: I can either be this guy or I can be 1857 01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,080 Speaker 1: this guy. And it's like, my friend, we live in 1858 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:13,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, or an interconnected society we have, the 1859 01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,920 Speaker 1: computer we have, I mean, there's never been more tools 1860 01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:21,880 Speaker 1: available to human being to create community, to use their brain. 1861 01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,559 Speaker 1: And I would just sort of think in your off time, 1862 01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,519 Speaker 1: if you are telling me that you have more money 1863 01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:31,000 Speaker 1: and less responsibilities and you do have free time, I 1864 01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:35,080 Speaker 1: would I would only encourage you to at least think 1865 01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:39,720 Speaker 1: about ways in which in which you could form a 1866 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:44,280 Speaker 1: new venture or activity or or something that could allow 1867 01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,720 Speaker 1: you to use your brain. Community you jam, I mean, 1868 01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great idea. You know, there's 1869 01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,439 Speaker 1: something like that, you know, but it's. 1870 01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:58,439 Speaker 8: It's like, mister Ghek, like when you're a teacher, like 1871 01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,559 Speaker 8: it really you take it. You take it on fully. 1872 01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:03,040 Speaker 4: You know. 1873 01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,479 Speaker 8: It's hard to like walk in at the door at 1874 01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:07,839 Speaker 8: the end of the day and like put the teacher 1875 01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,760 Speaker 8: hat off, like it kind of stays on all the time. Yeah, 1876 01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,400 Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And then I just feel 1877 01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:17,040 Speaker 8: really conflicted with my identity nowadays, you know what I mean. 1878 01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:21,320 Speaker 8: Like before, when I was a teacher, I'd be at 1879 01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,719 Speaker 8: the store or around you know, people who had kids, 1880 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,760 Speaker 8: and like I would like always test their timestables and 1881 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,200 Speaker 8: can they can they can they do subtraction with money 1882 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,360 Speaker 8: or anything? You know, just basic teacher stuff that I 1883 01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:37,240 Speaker 8: feel like kids could use and not be on their phones. 1884 01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:41,200 Speaker 8: And nowadays, I just like I look at kids, I'm 1885 01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:45,040 Speaker 8: just like, not my job, you know, it's not my 1886 01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:48,400 Speaker 8: job anymore. But then there's like a guilt on the inside. 1887 01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,080 Speaker 8: I'm like, well, that kid's not going to know the 1888 01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,680 Speaker 8: difference between China and Taiwan, you know what I mean. 1889 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,400 Speaker 8: That's an important issue. I feel like most people should 1890 01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,080 Speaker 8: know about this kind of stuff or just any basic things. 1891 01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:03,160 Speaker 8: And especially because ironically enough, I was a science teacher 1892 01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:08,920 Speaker 8: who left during COVID because I realize education is just 1893 01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:12,960 Speaker 8: kind of not very scientific in regards to how they 1894 01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:18,479 Speaker 8: handle things. So it's just it's just like mister Gek. 1895 01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,800 Speaker 8: Just to be quite frank, it's just like, you know, 1896 01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:24,160 Speaker 8: how you're Lyle and your mister Ghek. It's like imagine 1897 01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,920 Speaker 8: hanging up the mister Ghek forever, you know, or something 1898 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,200 Speaker 8: happened where you had to give up the mister Gek 1899 01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,360 Speaker 8: earth being mister Ghek became too much. 1900 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,400 Speaker 1: You call me Gek. You don't have to call me 1901 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:36,080 Speaker 1: mister Gek. 1902 01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,439 Speaker 8: It's a respect thing the teacher hats on, you know. 1903 01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,840 Speaker 8: But it's kind of that feeling, and I hope you 1904 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:48,040 Speaker 8: never have that feeling, you know, walking away from something 1905 01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,240 Speaker 8: you're so passionate about because you have to, you know. 1906 01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:56,200 Speaker 1: Well, would you say a name was mister v mister 1907 01:53:56,320 --> 01:54:00,120 Speaker 1: v V In whatever you do, I wish you good luck. 1908 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 8: You take care of I'm mister go Thank you, mister Van. 1909 01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:05,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1910 01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why mister Ghak makes me feel super uncomfortable. 1911 01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't. 1912 01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:14,560 Speaker 7: You know. 1913 01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a teacher, not a guru, never never, never 1914 01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:29,240 Speaker 1: had any interest in, never had any interest in presenting 1915 01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:37,320 Speaker 1: myself as such. Merely, truly, truly, I only wish to 1916 01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,880 Speaker 1: present myself and I hope I'm doing it. I hope 1917 01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing this properly, because sometimes I feel I'm afraid 1918 01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,600 Speaker 1: that I'm not. But I I really, truly, at the 1919 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,360 Speaker 1: end of the day, I only wish to present myself 1920 01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:52,960 Speaker 1: as a crazy person in a gackle costume on the internet. 1921 01:54:54,480 --> 01:55:05,160 Speaker 10: Hello, Hello, Hello, Well hey, it's a good professor. 1922 01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:08,720 Speaker 1: Why do you say I'm a professor? 1923 01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:18,280 Speaker 4: Well, you didn't like mister, and you've got some credibility. 1924 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,120 Speaker 8: I think I don't. 1925 01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:21,640 Speaker 3: But how are you doing? 1926 01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:25,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if I mean, I don't. Here's the thing. 1927 01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,400 Speaker 1: I know that there's people watching my stream and stuff. 1928 01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:30,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know if that inherently, I don't know 1929 01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:35,040 Speaker 1: if followers gives you inherent credibility. What do you I mean, 1930 01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,720 Speaker 1: what is your genuine opinion? What is your genuine opinion 1931 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:37,960 Speaker 1: on that? 1932 01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, talks taught me that. TikTok has taught me that 1933 01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:46,640 Speaker 4: you will find a following in anything. And if you 1934 01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,960 Speaker 4: want to talk to the community, you're going to get it. 1935 01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:55,360 Speaker 8: But you you welcome and you embrace a welcome environment. 1936 01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:56,400 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 1937 01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,920 Speaker 3: And so you stand out with a ruby. 1938 01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:01,520 Speaker 5: You know. 1939 01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,680 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, is you can say and if 1940 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:10,320 Speaker 1: you like, like if your friend tells you something, you're like, well, 1941 01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:12,880 Speaker 1: who the fuck is this guy? Like if if you 1942 01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:16,560 Speaker 1: meet someone at a party and they start like saying 1943 01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:21,680 Speaker 1: giving you advice about something, or or going on spiel 1944 01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,480 Speaker 1: or making statements of opinion or anything like that, You're like, 1945 01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,280 Speaker 1: who is this person? What the fuck are they saying? 1946 01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,360 Speaker 1: But if you saw a TikTok of a rand of 1947 01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,240 Speaker 1: that same person, but of a random person. But you 1948 01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,320 Speaker 1: saw it and I had a bunch of like likes 1949 01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,000 Speaker 1: on it and a bunch of people commenting on it, 1950 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,839 Speaker 1: it was it was like presented to you as media. 1951 01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:44,720 Speaker 1: You would be like, oh, what's this? I agree with that, 1952 01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:49,800 Speaker 1: but there's no difference between the two really, So everyone 1953 01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:53,160 Speaker 1: is just saying things and hoping that they resonate with 1954 01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:57,200 Speaker 1: people in some way, but there's no credibility to anyone. Hey, 1955 01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:00,960 Speaker 1: when people say things. I picked the worst thing to do. 1956 01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:04,800 Speaker 1: I picked a podcast where I say things and people 1957 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,680 Speaker 1: say I hate saying things. I hate listening to things. 1958 01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to complete another nightmare. 1959 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:14,360 Speaker 4: Hearing fingers in front of a turtle. 1960 01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:22,840 Speaker 1: How can I get you? This evening? I promise I'm 1961 01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:26,120 Speaker 1: gonna find a better thing to say to transition into 1962 01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:28,200 Speaker 1: like the what the part of the call where we 1963 01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:30,640 Speaker 1: talk about the thing, But for now I'm using how 1964 01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,200 Speaker 1: can we How can I get you? Yeah? 1965 01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely? For some advice, I don't know what the 1966 01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:41,800 Speaker 4: moderator told you. For a little side quest today, I 1967 01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:45,400 Speaker 4: accidentally drink my own year. Can you repeat that I 1968 01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:49,240 Speaker 4: have a relationship with Say that again? 1969 01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:50,120 Speaker 1: Can you repeat that. 1970 01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:55,040 Speaker 8: I drink my own year? 1971 01:57:55,120 --> 01:58:00,920 Speaker 4: In on accidents? This about seven o'clock. But I was 1972 01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:05,640 Speaker 4: mainly calling because I have a very nice relationship with 1973 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:12,200 Speaker 4: a with a with a wonderful girl, and I've been 1974 01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,480 Speaker 4: just like trying to find jobs, and it's hard to 1975 01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:19,200 Speaker 4: put myself out there and find relationships and get get 1976 01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 4: connected to people. It's applying LinkedIn and your forms it. 1977 01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:31,160 Speaker 4: Everybody wants something different and everyone says they're hiring, but 1978 01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:35,080 Speaker 4: they're not. And it's just I haven't been able to 1979 01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,920 Speaker 4: find employment. I'm just you know, I'm just kind of 1980 01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:42,560 Speaker 4: vibing through life, living at my parents and trying to 1981 01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:46,320 Speaker 4: remain happy. But yeah, what do you have to think 1982 01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:46,920 Speaker 4: about them? 1983 01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:54,040 Speaker 1: You said you drank your own urine this morning, not. 1984 01:58:54,200 --> 01:59:00,240 Speaker 4: This morning, this evening accidentally, because I pulled it all 1985 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:04,480 Speaker 4: nighter and I went to go get some donuts from 1986 01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:07,840 Speaker 4: my family in the morning about five am. I was 1987 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:12,240 Speaker 4: in the parking lot of h EB and Man, I 1988 01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,880 Speaker 4: just had to pee and I had tinted windows, so 1989 01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:15,960 Speaker 4: I had a. 1990 01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:16,920 Speaker 7: Little water bottle. 1991 01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:17,200 Speaker 2: You know. 1992 01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:19,440 Speaker 4: It got took care of it. I threw in my 1993 01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:21,840 Speaker 4: back right seat because I have a two door. I 1994 01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,120 Speaker 4: didn't want anyone happen to see it while I was 1995 01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:29,800 Speaker 4: inside shopping, right, so I threw it back there. Has 1996 01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:32,000 Speaker 4: forgotten about it. Me and my girlfriend when we were 1997 01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:35,680 Speaker 4: in my car, we always throw water bottles on the ground, right. Well, 1998 01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:37,960 Speaker 4: that's tonight I went to go pick up some cow 1999 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:46,480 Speaker 4: zones right, some fresh mosaicoli and some boy some good dessert, and. 2000 01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:48,840 Speaker 8: I went to go. 2001 01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:51,680 Speaker 4: I was like, wow, I'm really parked. Once go grab 2002 01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,880 Speaker 4: some water from behind me instead of behind my seat. 2003 01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:57,640 Speaker 4: I went to the far back right. I forgot about 2004 01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:01,560 Speaker 4: my bottle and the disaster already hit me. Had to 2005 02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:04,680 Speaker 4: flush my mouth out with another little water bottle, add 2006 02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:08,720 Speaker 4: some kombusha. Some might say that was worse, but it 2007 02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:09,200 Speaker 4: was great. 2008 02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:15,760 Speaker 1: So you flushed out your mouth with a second water bottle. 2009 02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:19,480 Speaker 7: I what? 2010 02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:21,920 Speaker 1: And what did it tastes? 2011 02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:22,040 Speaker 7: Like? 2012 02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:29,200 Speaker 4: See, that's the thing. It's been really cold and texted lately, 2013 02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:32,720 Speaker 4: so it was about like forty outs today, and so 2014 02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:36,200 Speaker 4: instead of hot in like ammonia, it was kind of 2015 02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:41,040 Speaker 4: like a really watered down but slightly lemon added tastes 2016 02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:46,280 Speaker 4: to a very bad power aid for McDonald's served in 2017 02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:49,200 Speaker 4: the plastic cuts, you know, a really big large cups 2018 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:54,920 Speaker 4: with too much ice. It was cold, it was it 2019 02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:56,800 Speaker 4: didn't do it. I opened up my window. I had 2020 02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:57,480 Speaker 4: to spit it out. 2021 02:00:57,720 --> 02:00:58,960 Speaker 3: I had to get some other water. 2022 02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:01,560 Speaker 4: I didn't think I was tell anybody to tonight, but 2023 02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:04,680 Speaker 4: I told my girlfriend and then we went to see 2024 02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:08,720 Speaker 4: when you had last put some footage, and it was Friday, 2025 02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:12,120 Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, this man has a schedule. So 2026 02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,720 Speaker 4: that's where we're at. Lyle, is it okay if I 2027 02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,280 Speaker 4: say Lyle? My name is Jared. 2028 02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:24,560 Speaker 1: And how did this experience make you feel in the 2029 02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:27,480 Speaker 1: macro about your life as a whole? 2030 02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:34,480 Speaker 4: In the macro, I really need to move out. My 2031 02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:40,200 Speaker 4: mother's toxic. But in the macro some year it's not 2032 02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:43,160 Speaker 4: going to change that. My my every day was pretty good. 2033 02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:46,080 Speaker 4: I love my girlfriend. Your girlfriend is your hands shut 2034 02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:46,920 Speaker 4: a chill out. 2035 02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:49,800 Speaker 3: All to reach out? 2036 02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:51,000 Speaker 1: No, you're not allowed to reach out. 2037 02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:55,200 Speaker 8: Okay, Oh, I'm so. 2038 02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Sorry, you are breaking rules. 2039 02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:05,640 Speaker 4: I apologie. I just heard two mutics. But in the 2040 02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:10,200 Speaker 4: math ro it's changed me for the better. I'm glad 2041 02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:12,760 Speaker 4: it happened. It wasn't pleasant, but I've learned from it. 2042 02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:14,600 Speaker 1: What have you learned from it? 2043 02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:21,760 Speaker 4: Not to throw water bottles on the floor. And I'm 2044 02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:23,400 Speaker 4: not going to allow my girlfriend to do it either. 2045 02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,520 Speaker 4: Granted she doesn't pee in water bottles in my car. 2046 02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:34,480 Speaker 4: But you win some, you lose some, right like unmedicated 2047 02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:39,040 Speaker 4: adhd man, It's you have some great three four days, 2048 02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,200 Speaker 4: but then you have some depression naps for you know, 2049 02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:44,360 Speaker 4: about a week trying. It's hard to take care of 2050 02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:47,080 Speaker 4: yourself a shower. You really have to think about and 2051 02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,600 Speaker 4: work yourself into doing it because you know it's for 2052 02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:52,120 Speaker 4: the better, even if you don't go outside today, even 2053 02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:54,200 Speaker 4: if you're on the computer, just trying to shower yourself 2054 02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,560 Speaker 4: as hard after about two and a half three days. 2055 02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:01,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you what do you do on 2056 02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the computer? 2057 02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:13,000 Speaker 4: So here's the thing, toxic trait. I know legal legends 2058 02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:17,600 Speaker 4: back in season three, but that that got me into 2059 02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:22,680 Speaker 4: building computers. But before that, my dad's an electronics engineers, 2060 02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:26,840 Speaker 4: so I always soldered and desoldered printed circuit boards with him. 2061 02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:30,560 Speaker 4: I already forgot where this question is going. I am 2062 02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:32,560 Speaker 4: are you addicted to anything? While? 2063 02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:35,600 Speaker 1: Am I addicted to anything? 2064 02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2065 02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:45,560 Speaker 8: Sugarh word heard. 2066 02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a little bit of porn. I could probably, 2067 02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,120 Speaker 1: I could. I could probably reasonably quit porn for a while. 2068 02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:52,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 2069 02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:56,920 Speaker 1: I I don't think I'm addicted to weed. I think 2070 02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:58,400 Speaker 1: of all the of all the things. 2071 02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:04,480 Speaker 11: For the animated, you have the animated stuff, sorry to 2072 02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:14,280 Speaker 11: talk to over animated drawn you know hen Ti, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 2073 02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:19,520 Speaker 11: the Jinci do you know the girlfriend's Twitter porn account. 2074 02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:21,600 Speaker 1: You know, no, what is that. 2075 02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:28,000 Speaker 4: Oh, she just has a Twitter account for her porn page. 2076 02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:31,120 Speaker 4: You know that's private because Twitter thinks that every single 2077 02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:33,840 Speaker 4: thing you like should be told to every single friend 2078 02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:37,680 Speaker 4: of yours. Crazy man, my bed's come to you. 2079 02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:40,160 Speaker 1: What do you say? Her name was. 2080 02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:44,240 Speaker 4: Jared. 2081 02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling Jared. 2082 02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:50,040 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, brother. 2083 02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:02,480 Speaker 1: But it is not really an expert