WEBVTT - Knicks’ Must-Win Game 4, Brunson Getting Beat Up and Why the Crowd Isn’t Enough | TICKET & THE TRUTH 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.160 You want to get your together, get my ship together, 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:04.320 and get my ship together. 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.240 I'm go out there, get my ship together. You smell 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.480 like golf ball. You smell like you smell like swamp 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.160 rush off the rain. Yeah, this nigga smell like the 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.759 rains man Church, I thought that was you. 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.440 Man. This man, This man smell like sour grass. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:20.520 Man. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.080 Get this man, Get this man. This smell like the bunker. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.680 Niggas smell like nigga. Smell like saying and then come 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.280 in here, smell like saying, how many buckers you in 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:35.120 this morning? Keep here lying? I got three smell lion. Look, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.599 I was looking for you to go live or to 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.880 take some type of I said, he he he lying. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.000 I know he ain't on the course because he would 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.080 have put it up by now. I said, I don't 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:51.400 see Nate out here going live. Look look he got 0:00:52.400 --> 0:01:02.480 got none. I got the listen man. This man was 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.600 over there putting mby, was drawing ship. My ship came 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:11.200 out of church. I took my arm. Hey, I broke 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.880 the joint. Man that nigga lord like, Yeah, he was 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.399 in the grassy, no reading and drawing. It came out 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.600 and gave me third game. Man what y'all want to do? 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:27.720 Mann was in the grassy no drawing, stat liberty. What 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.800 are you gonna know your day off you can draw 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.840 my sister Like that was so ball talk about he 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.800 can't leave the room. He outside. I first off one 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:42.360 to apologized, came off a little insensitive to do his feelings. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.040 You know what I'm saying. I just thought that. I 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.040 just thought that for the emotion, I thought that that 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.080 was a bit of a you know, a lot. But 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.000 I get it. Your emotions go from from a player 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.720 who was super emotionally and cried a thousand times over Ship. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.000 I totally get it. Yeah, but he's under control. Bro. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.960 I didn't anticipate the Niggs coming out winning on the 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.280 road like this, But man, I know Nate I ain't 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.280 jacking or something. But I've never seen momentum jack like 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.799 this man. This man Trump coming into the joint, taking 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.520 Seventh Street, taking the watch part, all that, Bro, All that, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.720 all that played into ITIM. I know I'm killing the joint, 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:24.200 but y'all, I just have to say that at the start, 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.440 I know you you coming in here smelling like fresh 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.920 grass and and fucking like he been in the swamp 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.560 and ship but yeah, I already knew. He hit me 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:40.080 that we'recable. I'm going sid like bela y outside. Let's 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.880 get into it, man, it's taking the truth. Man, God 0:02:43.200 --> 0:03:04.920 damn certified certa. It's a green summer. Yeah, we built differently. 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.760 He ain't watching the games like I'm watching it again. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.840 You'm outside, We're alive. It's fluid. That's when he stopped 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:18.040 the production that we go back we wan ticket. 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.040 Just going off one thing that that you had said 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.200 about Wemby last week after his Game two loss, he 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.320 kind of agreed with you in a way where he 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.640 said his emotions got the best of him the Western 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.880 Conference finals didn't carry over coming into the finals. So 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.960 in a way, what you ended up saying kind of 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.560 was how it Wenby felt as well. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.840 Yeah, but I still could have said it. I felt 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:39.240 like I could have said that better. You know what 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.480 I'm saying. I came here fiery though. Peoples already talking 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.760 to sweep the nes it talking crazy, so I had 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.400 to get my gas up. You know what I'm saying, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:50.280 But no bullshit what we're seeing or man, two tales 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:54.240 of two tapes when he's aggressive, p when he ain't 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.240 on that three point of ship when he talking about 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.480 certain my dominance. That's what I'm like, Man, it's hard 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:03.000 to it's hard to beat that guy. Yeah, with Castle 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.840 coming downhill on downhill man, and just did give you 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.920 that that slow euro to the rack man. Yeah, Man, 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:12.760 he was out there, he was out there. Bro. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.200 It was it was one play and me and I 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.920 remember that one play and this the mindset he got. 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.039 Don't worry about don't look for for fouls or they're 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.760 not gonna He came down one play Lord, he went 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.880 by his man. We went up castle. He got fouled, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.760 lost it, grabbed it, got the No, they didn't even 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:32.160 call it. 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.640 He got fouled again, but he finished it and just 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:39.000 fell on the I was like, damn, they not calling nothing. 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:40.880 Remember I played church. I was talking about So my 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:45.599 biggest my biggest question mark was how would they fare 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:50.039 in the pressure cooker. Now, let me be honest. I 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.800 saw how to. So I'm up and thinking how we 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:57.080 thinking this new age? I saw how the spurs actually 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.360 jumped in front of it. They got him a place 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.440 where they can should go get out. It was secure. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.000 He got to go spend time with family. He got comfortable. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.159 You said this last thing on the phone to me, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.839 he got comfortable in New York, and that's what it 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.000 looks like he got. He was not comfortable those first. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.240 Two Think about this ticket and he was like, you 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.720 can't go to New York in the garden. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.120 I mean I was talking about though. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.160 They got a good crowd, right, but think about this. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.839 What No, they got a great crowd, but. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:26.919 In the league. 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.719 No, No, but think about this. There's places you love 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.680 to go play, and there's places you hate to go play. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.080 Think about this, Like, what was some of the places 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.719 You're like, damn, it's gonna be loud. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.080 In the plant. I loved the play Atlanta because I 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.120 was from love playing Toronto. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.919 Yeah, but like, but it's places where you just like 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.599 I like, I loved going to Madison. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:48.599 I love New York. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.840 Yeah, but it was like places like like Sacramento. I'll 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.640 be like, oh man, this is gonna be a dog fight. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:54.520 It's loud in here. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.800 Because their fans are interactive the bills. I love that. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:58.880 I love playing in Utah. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.200 Yeah, New York it's one of those places people love 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.760 to no doubt. You know what I'm saying. That's what 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.120 I'm saying. Look you look forward. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:06.479 To going there. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.640 People didn't look forward to coming to the Boston Garden. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.120 I'll tell you that. People hate it coming else cold. 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.440 People's talking, Man. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.039 I just love to come to Boston. Man, I just 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.479 look up through the banners. Man. I didn't really see 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:21.480 none of y'all. I was like, man, man, Man, they 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.160 get to play in front of us every night. Man, 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.040 Man for the get off of him? Man. Man. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.280 Yeah, Man, like New York place, like you want to 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.200 go in there and get off. You're not intimidated by it. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.960 So it's two So it's two players, Pete, that's you. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.400 Two other players. Man, that shit intimidating dog to come down. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.520 And Spike was pointing at the referee one time, like like, really, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:47.039 tell Bro's it's the fans are up. They're interactive, they 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.760 feel you feel me. So I wasn't sure on how 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.280 he was going to react to that. You're watching all 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.080 the clips, you see, you see what what's going on 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.960 in New York, right, We've I have never in my 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.640 ninety years of living, bro, I have never seen fan 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.960 base like this, Pete. No, we're seeing fans be cheery, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.760 cheery man. No, bro Lava nah, Bro, I ain't seen 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.160 it like this. So I didn't know how he was 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.800 gonna react to that. That's all I was saying. That's 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.760 all I was saying, Bro, that they're right there can 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.080 intimidate anybody right there. You know what I'm saying. But 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.000 he went there, they went to New York. They got 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.920 very comfortable, and they look comfortable in New York. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.440 Like New York fans is a different type of fans too, Lord, 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:30.320 because think about this. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.040 They dealing with trauma. Bro. No, no, but listen, no, no, no, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.560 they dealing with trauma. Real shit. You listen to any 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.520 New York fan. They might even know each other. But 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:42.080 the same thing you hear, who is Sydney? Who's sitting 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.840 in the front first five? Ro? Who's sitting there? Is it? 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.040 Real fans? So who's sitting in those scene? Hit me out, bro? 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.200 Who's paying one hundred and fifty thousand? Bro? 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.720 Who's paying ninety as? All these corporations? You get off, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.120 you know what I'm saying. Let you get off. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.880 Think about that. Who's sitting in the old seath I'm 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.760 gonna tell you talk to them on the floor. It 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.160 is traditional money right now. All the rich boys, all 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.320 these guys you see in the Lord Bulls and the 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.280 people that are there. Yeah, these have been passed down 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.240 from their grandfather's grandfather Trump Trump's family that had tickets 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.320 since nineteen oh nine. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.640 They some of these families. No, No, the man who 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.040 started the whole joint. Man, you know what I'm saying. So, man, 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.760 it's been hoke. Man. This is traditional money you see 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.840 on the floor. So the real fans is outside, right, 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.520 The real fans trying to tell me is when you 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.720 go outside and you step out there, shit and you 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.800 gotta have the kid to get you through that. Man. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.760 You go to go to Washington Square, go to go 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.800 to Dykeman, go to Seventh Avenue. That's where the real 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.920 fans at, right. Yeah, well they on that trade Yeah, 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.400 where they on that peep here? Yeah, Yeah, I'm That's 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:55.400 what I'm telling you. Dog. The outside, the court inside 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.520 is probably the safest place you can be in New York. Man. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.240 I'm at Central Park right easy, walking through feet boking 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.280 thee feeding bird in New York. He's fucking around. He 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.120 I'm out there and patting the animals. Man just talking, 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.079 he just poking the bear. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.559 I'm getting the coffee, right, there, get a coffee and 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.800 go and chill. Don't women y'alla could go in there 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.880 and drawing there see the type of security he had around, 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.200 A secured place for him to go draw, right, that's 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.360 don't get that fucked up. Don't think that he just 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.760 lined out and walked down there and he nah, bro chill, 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.960 you know what I'm saying. But they found him a place. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.480 I loved it. Man, he went and drew. That was 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.720 some dope ship. That was diff man. Listen, that was 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.200 a different joint. Man. I was feeling that, like, oh, man, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.880 lord draw. We didn't know that I'm gonna draw my 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.600 sister and my dad. That's fire man shot the way man. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.760 Women went to motherfucking New York and got comfortable. Now 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.319 New York, what does New York need to do? Man? 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.320 To be honest, like New York played well because they 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.520 keep getting back in the game, like Spurs a bit 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.360 of a league, and I don't don't know if they 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.920 got an answer for andwon nob and Unbe is an X 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.360 factor out They cannot stop him. But Brunson got to 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.760 step up. He gotta play better. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.000 Like I know he getting thirty, but you know it 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.520 ain't efficient like it usually is. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:14.280 One shots through three games. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:14.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.440 It ain't as fishing like you know what I'm saying. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.240 He supposed to have eighty something points on forty something shots. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.760 You know, it ain't as sufficient. But they plan good 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.400 enough to win. And but San Antonio gotta feel like, man, 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.120 we let we let one go at home. We got 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.560 this one in that madisis squirl. We comfort you out here. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.120 We can get this one and get back home. The 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.240 pressure is back on New York though, because it's hard. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:38.640 Like as much as you want to say it's a 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.200 pressure cooker in New York, it's pressure for the home 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:42.200 team too because they. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:42.640 Feel it too. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.560 They feel like we gotta win, like the weight of 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.640 the They gotta feel like the weight of the world 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.400 is on their back. I ain't never seen a team 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.520 that this much pressure to win ever in the finals 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.719 like and in years like who like this is a 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.320 first time in our lifetime, they that they have an 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.160 opportunity to actually win it up two oh up to one, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:04.599 like in our lifetime, we knew they wasn't gonna be 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.520 the Spurs. The Night and Nine with Dave Robinson and 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.640 Auten Patrick Ewing was hurt. You know what I'm saying. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.000 We knew they weren't gonna win that, but this is 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.280 a legitimate shot for them, and they feel the pressure. 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:14.080 I'm telling you. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.600 You see how they came out at the beginning. They 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.200 remember both teams was kind of like breaking. It was 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:19.559 like it was everybody was tight. 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.600 So you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about an 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.760 unspoken tale that comes with the league that when you travel, 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.120 it's almost like you're traveling on the road. So your 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:31.760 first game back home, it is like a road game 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.079 because you had to actually travel. So guess what it 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.200 was fifty to fifty. Both teams had to travel to 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.040 New York, right, so it's fifty to fifty, So it 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.199 wasn't no advantage there. Then you take the home base 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:44.720 of what I feel like this whole playoff is about, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.520 and it's been the fan energy. The fan energy before 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.480 the games has been one of the more more premiere 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:54.160 pre game I don't even know what to call it. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:12:00.840 Festivals before the game, the end of parade celebrations, that 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.640 is the energy in the building. When that was taken out, 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.520 I saw this, they killed momentum, announced an even game right, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.199 they are younger. San Antonio is a younger team. They 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.520 were one one more aggressive than the Knicks. Yeah, for 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.439 the two the Knicks never went through call Anthon Towns. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.520 Anthony Towns, to me is the MVP of this series 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.480 right now, not just for his shot ability and not 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.520 here for his making, but his defense. His defense to me, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.720 is in front of his offense. And when he has offense, 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.000 he's been efficient and finishing. And when you played through him, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.520 he's confident enough. He like, if I'm being honest, he's 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.800 looking like I'm not him and og Man, we're not 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.440 really respecting big fella. We respect him, but nah, we 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.240 can get by him. You know. So I saw in 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:50.640 those first games a crazy amount of confidence and if 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.360 I'm New York, I'm gonna have to go back to 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.760 what those two games were. Uh, san Antonio was the 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.439 more fifth man. He said, how Victor did Jalen Man? Yeah, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:12:59.880 he showed it. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.079 You know I knew, you know what, I knew that 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.760 that's she I knew. No, I'm saying that's I knew. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.800 Oh shit, I knew the first minute of the game 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:09.839 that dude wasn't playing. You know why, because I was 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.080 like he needed to just come out here, dunk on somebody. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:13.080 First two players. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.520 That's when he got forty one and twenty game three, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:18.959 he got the first two dunks. I know that, the 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.839 first two dunks of the game. That was that what 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.120 gave me the sign When he got forty one in two, yeah, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.120 I was like, oh shit, your big fellow on one. Yeah. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.000 So when he comes out with that type of pressent 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.880 comes out yeah. So if I'm the Knicks, you got 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.600 to meet that energy and listen, they got here pee 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:40.360 by Michl Bridges, Og, Kat Brunson and Josh hart Bro. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.560 They didn't work as a they didn't work as a group. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.840 I didn't feel like at one point they was working 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.040 as a group like they've been doing the first two games. So, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.679 you know, I can immediately see the difference in the games. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.319 In the New York games that played in New York 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.400 and then the road games they played. I saw two 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.000 different energies for the difference too. You know what he 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.000 did the adjustment that he did. He started rolling, rolling hard. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:08.360 He started rolling yeah yeah, but switching on the roll 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.120 and he got this this guard on him, throw it up. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.840 He was but that was open. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.439 That's been open all playoffs because I was like, why 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.719 he's not rolling more? Because every time he roll you 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.440 got a guard coming in on him. And if they 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.920 switching that they was looking for it. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.280 Was looking for it, looking for Speaking of Web, how 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.000 do you feel like he kind of responded from what 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.640 he said in game two that talked about earlier to 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.480 now seeing him in game three on the road, how 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:33.360 do you feel like he responded? 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.520 I thought he made some great adjustments. Man. You know, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.560 my biggest thing was how would he play in the 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.880 pressure cooker. I thought he was very calm. I thought 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.720 he knew where he was going when he came out 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.040 of the driveway. I think that he started that game. 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.320 It wasn't no if ends a bus, he wasn't. He 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.200 didn't look like he was second guessing anything. True. He 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.280 looked like, this is what I'm doing. This is what 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.320 I'm doing. This is what I'm doing. And that he 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.360 said this last night he called me. He was like, man, 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:01.320 they look comfortable. They look comfortable, and and he's to me, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.520 feels like he's starting to get his wits about the 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.120 So if I'm cat man, listen, you're still up to one. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.440 And I feel like the Spurs had to win Game 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.440 three to put this old. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.720 So I actually thought they handled the pressure well. And listen, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:22.880 nobody's talking about this kid, Harper. Man, this kid is true. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.360 We haven't seen this kid is playing cold blooded bro, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.000 He's playing with house money. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:28.200 Man. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.840 You know, it's crazy a lot he said. He said, Man, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.960 I've been dreaming about playing in moments like this, like bro, Bro, 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:40.680 He's playing on another level so much that it's got 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.160 me asking the GM question later. Did I want to 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:45.760 ask you about what do you do with Darian Fox 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.080 having this type of energy? You know what I'm saying. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.240 But yeah, man, I think the young Spurs are handling 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.000 the New York pressure cooker very well. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.800 So Harper rookie basically averaging fifteen off the bench. In 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.240 modern NBA basketball, rookies in the NBA finals don't really 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.680 do this. Tyler Hero had a similar in the bubble. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.600 But it goes back to like Magic Johnson. But in 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.320 the modern times, Harper's really shown up in the finals. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.400 Why does he look so comfortable out there as a rookie? 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.760 What do you think it is? Experience? Pops? 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.560 This is this is the thing that helped me in 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.560 the league, and I wasn't able to go to the 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.920 playoffs my first year or none. So, but he's been 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.800 in pressure games since whole life. He played at UH, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.920 he played at where do you go to Houston Ruts 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.840 you know with the Rutgers I mean Rutgers. Yeah, he 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:37.720 played a lot of big games at Rutgers. And that 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.280 that translates like when I play that Kansas Like that 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.640 translates like in moments, when you get in big moments, 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.560 you understand moments, and he understands moments. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.480 You know what I'm saying. But you said he's been 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.400 the man, Yeah, this team throughout his whole crew. So 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.560 he's known what it means to have to score, have 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.320 to take his team. He understands mentally because you can 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.440 see it he mentally. He's just mature, like like he 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.520 been there all young All the young boys are very mature. Yeah, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:06.760 they have the same with Castle. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.080 Castle won the national championship, like you can get the 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.840 only at Connecticut. I think they went back to back, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.879 didn't they with him? So just like when you playing 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.040 big moments, you're like, oh, at the moment ain't too 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.840 big for me. I hadn't been around a lot of cameras. 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.920 I hadn't seen a lot of lights before. You know 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.520 what I'm saying. I'm just putting my mind in that 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:27.440 kind of situation. And when Bing, y'all gonna have to 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.480 spotlight on him since he was born in Olympics, you 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.040 know what I'm saying. So these guys is comfortable, man, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.600 And you know, like for me, when I got into 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.200 seven game series and like we're saying, they getting comfortable. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.560 Sometimes it took a few games because, like you know, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.760 they everything is built to kind of try to stop 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.920 certain guys. So you're like, all right, by game three 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.240 you start figuring out some stuff, adjustments, adjustments. I just 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.159 remember going in different series. I was like, all right, 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:55.920 I know what I can get off now, this is 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.760 what they taken away. Yeah, by game three, you know, 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.199 all right, I'm comfortable. I know kind of defense they 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:02.920 throwing at me now and what they're trying to do. 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:04.119 You know how that is. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.800 You can see it before happening. You know where, you 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.159 know where I'm gonna come home exactly, And that's what 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.159 you're trying. That's what it's starting to see. And it 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.960 started the second half of game two for Winby because 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:19.360 that second half he went off. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.239 He said what he said. Yeah, we're gonna keep all 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:23.320 emotions at the other day. 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.439 Right, and so now I look like he getting comfortable. 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.520 Nicks better be careful. They got this is a must win. 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.639 Now the pressures back. This is the game for is 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:30.320 a must win. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.000 Have we ever seen two teams take both games on 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.480 the on the road? No, it just happened recently, a 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.280 couple of years ago. Maybe in the bubble, not the bubble, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:40.680 not the bubbles. After the Bubble. I think it was 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.040 the Clippers in Dallas when both teams won on the road. Yeah, 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:44.840 that happens. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.840 This is the first time since ninety three Finals that 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.280 the road team has won every game through three games, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.160 so ninety three finals, and it's the second time ever. 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.200 And another thing about the Spurs is, no team in 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.320 history has ever dropped two games at home in the 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.800 NBA Finals and went on to win the NBA Finals. 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.120 It's never happened, So listen to this. The good thing 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.840 about all of this is that the Knicks played like 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.879 shit or they played their worst game in the finals, right, 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.159 and still had a chance to win it. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:15.800 Yeah, Town's eleven point on ten po goals. 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.359 So y'all lost, you know what I'm saying, because it 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.199 came down to the last one thirty right, and then 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.600 you know, so you lost with you know, you know 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.360