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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today's guest is the wonderfully talented

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Speaker 1: Justin Hartley, who has been in so many fan favorite

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Speaker 1: projects including This is Us, you know, a little show

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Speaker 1: that only took over the entire world. Now he stars

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Speaker 1: in the CBS hit show Tracker, which just debuted its

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Speaker 1: second season, and he is unbelievable in this series. There's

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Speaker 1: a reason why Tracker is the number one show on television.

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Speaker 1: Oh and here's a fun fact for you. It is

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Speaker 1: the most watched new series since Desperate Housewives back in

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Speaker 1: their two thousand and four two thousand and five season, which,

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Speaker 1: if you don't remember, it felt like that show was

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Speaker 1: the only thing people were talking about back then.

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Speaker 2: Justin Ah, he is the real deal and it was

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Speaker 2: such a pleasure to chat with him.

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Speaker 1: Our fifty minutes together felt like five because we just

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Speaker 1: had such a nice conversation. Now, this is a special

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Speaker 1: edition episode of my podcast because the conversation you are

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Speaker 1: out to hear it's from an event that I'm moderated,

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Speaker 1: presented by the prestigious ninety second Street why New York.

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Speaker 1: You can check them out at ninety two ny dot

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Speaker 1: org for upcoming events and hey, maybe you'll even catch

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Speaker 1: me at one. So let's see if today we can

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Speaker 1: get Justin to say something that he has never said before.

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Speaker 2: Well, Justin, I am so happy to be hanging out

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Speaker 2: with you today. Man. I love the show.

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Speaker 1: I was telling you that backstage, and before we begin,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you some of your flowers that

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Speaker 1: you deserve. Okay, you ready for it? I'm ready for

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Speaker 1: Tracker was the number one television show for the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 2: Yes it was.

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Speaker 1: It has reached over eighty one million viewers since it

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Speaker 1: debuted in February, and each episode averaged about eleven point

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Speaker 1: fifty eight million viewers. That just doesn't happen for a

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Speaker 2: So let's give it up for Justin. Well, it's a

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a group effort. It's a huge team

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Speaker 2: behind these shows. As you probably know, there are I

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Speaker 2: shooting crew of our show. That they all work very

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Speaker 2: very hard. So it's what you see is this. But

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Speaker 2: what you start with is a blank page and a

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Speaker 2: up with you know, production and network and studio and

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Speaker 2: everybody behind one baby I call it, and you end

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Speaker 2: up with something really great.

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Speaker 1: Well, when a show like this wins, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we all win because we need more art like this,

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Speaker 1: We need the television landscape to keep thriving. And when

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's a whole win for everybody in

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Speaker 2: But I also would.

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Speaker 1: Imagine there's a lot of pressure that comes with knowing

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Speaker 1: work for the fandom. So do you feel that pressure

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Speaker 2: I feel it now right about that? No, Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 2: it like this. I don't know anyone who's not busy.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's busy, and everyone has their own life People watch

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Speaker 2: our show for different reasons. They watch it for to escape,

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Speaker 2: they watch it to get inspired, they watch it for entertainment,

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Speaker 2: They watch it for the family dynamic, they watch it

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Speaker 2: for the beauty of it that for the landscape. Whatever

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Speaker 2: reason it might be that you're watching our show or

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Speaker 2: that you tune in week after week, you're you're taking

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Speaker 2: and you're taking an hour out of your life a

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Speaker 2: week and you're saying, I'm going to watch this show.

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Speaker 2: That is a I take that as a huge responsibility

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Speaker 2: is every frame, It is every thought, It is every

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Speaker 2: you surround yourself with insanely talented people that are dedicated

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Speaker 2: So we have the Chiefs playing and Taylor Swift on tour,

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Speaker 2: I can't lie that worried me. Yeah, me too. That's

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. That was great.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, as the leading man of the show,

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Speaker 2: Like, how do you.

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Speaker 1: Navigate getting the job done and knowing you're the face

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Speaker 2: There's a great responsibility I think that comes along with that.

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Speaker 2: You know, if I go down, there's really nothing to shoot,

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Speaker 2: And then you know what, you know what else it is, oh,

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Speaker 2: So that's the And look, everyone's different, everyone's different. I've

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Speaker 1: Because you do you wear a lot of different hats man.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll appreciate this. How do you go about memorizing?

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Speaker 2: If I'm not tired at all, and I'm and I've

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Speaker 2: and you kind of have to let those go. So

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00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 2: it's a team.

432
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: You've brought up this as us, and my mind keeps

433
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,159
Speaker 1: going back to that because obviously the show resonated with

434
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: so many people. It's a yeah favorite and will forever

435
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 1: be a fan favorite. When you were wrapping up that show.

436
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 1: You began where on this show?

437
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, So what was that.

438
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 1: Like for you as an artist to kind of have

439
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: to hang up your hat with that character and say

440
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: goodbye and make peace with that's it and I'm not

441
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: going to see him again, and then getting right into

442
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 1: the mode of preparing for another one, like did you

443
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 1: have time to kind of grieve that loss?

444
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: For lack of a better word, we had a lot

445
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: of time, so we knew the show was going to

446
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: go six years from like the beginning. In fact, I

447
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: think I was told five and then I think it

448
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 2: evolved into six. I could be totally lying to but

449
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: that's how I remember it. But we knew for years

450
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: and years and years that that show was ending when

451
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: it was ending, so we had a you know, a

452
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: lot of times you don't get that opportunity. Things just happen.

453
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 2: People go you're not doing it anymore, and you're like, oh, okay,

454
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: this was more like, Wow, you get an opportunity to

455
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: play this character for six years. It's going to be amazing.

456
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 2: What a ride this guy's going to go on. And

457
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 2: here's kind of what his journey's going to be. And

458
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 2: it evolved a little bit throughout the series. I'd say

459
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: quite a bit actually, but it ended up being something

460
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: that was I thought that project was remarkable to be

461
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 2: a part of. There's a There's an interesting thing that

462
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 2: happens with that too, though, because if you have a

463
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 2: mind like I do, you pull off the pages of

464
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,959
Speaker 2: the calendar, and that calendar starts to get remember those

465
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 2: little desk calendars in the year yah, And as you

466
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 2: pull off the pages, you're like, oh, another day, another day,

467
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: another day. And then as that things starts to get

468
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 2: thinner and thinner, you're like, oh, we're almost at the

469
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: end of the and it starts to feel different to

470
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: rip them off right than it does at the beginning

471
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: of the year. So I don't even know what your

472
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: question was. I'm just rambling at this point, but yeah, yeah,

473
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 2: I One things I didn't realize, and I'm so happy

474
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: that it's happening, is that I didn't really say goodbye

475
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: to him, because people remember him and people say things

476
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: to me, you know, people are they'll say things about passions.

477
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: It's like this soap opera that I did one hundred

478
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: million years ago, and people will still say Fox Crane,

479
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: which is like the only character I've ever played that

480
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: had two animal names as the first and last name,

481
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: which is the most interesting thing about him. But but

482
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: but people, because some people hold on to that stuff,

483
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: and that's kind of cool because you never really have

484
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: to let go of it. It's days in everyone's hearts.

485
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: It's really remarkable and it's a really cool thing to

486
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: have happened in your life.

487
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: And I feel like it's a role that I don't know,

488
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: maybe down the line, you would revisit one day.

489
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I mean we've talked about it. We've

490
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: all talked about it, and I don't know if there's

491
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: any plans to if there are plans to reboot it.

492
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: I haven't been involved in there, which is a whole

493
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: another conversation, I guess. But but yeah, I still keep

494
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: in touch with all those guys. They're all so great.

495
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 2: They'll be lifelong friends of mine and I would do

496
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 2: anything for them. I love them all. Might we see

497
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: any of them on tracker? We? I think we will.

498
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: I think we will? Yeah, right, yeah right? Season two? Yeah.

499
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: For fear of executives from CBS who might be here

500
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: coming on stage and body checking me, what can you

501
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: tell me that won't get you in trouble, but maybe

502
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: that you haven't shared yet.

503
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: Let's see what haven't I shared yet? That won't well,

504
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: let's get in trouble. Who cares? All right, what do

505
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: we got? We have? I think you all know that

506
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: Johnson's coming back, Jensen Ancles is coming back. That'll be fun.

507
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: My wife, who is here somewhere is coming back. Sophie

508
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: Apprentice has come other she is, Sophia is coming back.

509
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: And by the way, my mother and my sister are

510
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: here in the front. This is moving up for mom

511
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 2: and sistern who else is coming back? We have this?

512
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 2: We have this, this white Whale case that we introduced

513
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: in the episode that you all just saw that ends

514
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 2: up taking up like sort of half of our season.

515
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: The first half of our seasons up being kind of

516
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: about that. There's a job that Culture takes several episodes

517
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 2: into the first part of our season where he ends up.

518
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: He's out in the forcing stumbles upon this these campers

519
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: go missing, and he's trying to figure out what He's

520
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: surveying the scene and trying to figure out getting all

521
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: the clues that he can try to figure out where

522
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 2: these people went. There are four of them, so something happened, right.

523
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: It wasn't like one one, you know, stray, It was

524
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: all four of them are gone. Then there's there's this

525
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 2: man that he finds while he's looking for them. The

526
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 2: man's got a gun. He's got a couple of questions

527
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: for this man, and this man ends up telling him

528
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: sort of a little bit about his backstory and why

529
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: he's there, and he has a white whale case of

530
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: his own, and so they kind of help each other.

531
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: So for the first time in our series, really you

532
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: see Culture teaming up with not just for a moment,

533
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: for several episodes, with someone from kind of a different generation,

534
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: different totally different way of doing things than Culture does.

535
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: And it may or may not help him with his

536
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: white whale job that he's been, you know, searching for

537
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: a decade. Was that an executive going because George Cheeks

538
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: is like, shut up, well, George might not like this question,

539
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: but is he maybe going to find love this season

540
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: or explore that more? You know, I think he's got

541
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: a tough job, you know what I mean. He travels

542
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: a lot, and it's something that something that we talk about.

543
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: And the guy, like I said, he evolves, He's going

544
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: to evolve but I think for right now, I mean,

545
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: he's that would be a difficult relationship to have, wouldn't

546
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: it a relationship with a guy like that, like a

547
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: guy who's traveling all is gone all the time. He's

548
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: off the grid also, and plus it's dangerous. He's always

549
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: getting shot out or doing doing something you know, crazy.

550
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you did have some fun season one, episode one. Yeah,

551
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: it seems like he only has fun in episode one. Yeah, one,

552
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: O one, two oh one, probably three oh one. Like yeah,

553
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: if if you're if you're an actress or an actor,

554
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: a female actor, and you want to come on tracker

555
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: and like three oh one, something's probably going to go down.

556
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 2: Other than that, you're safe. I don't know what that is.

557
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't know why, why, why that happened,

558
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: but it did. And then that whole thing that happened

559
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: at the end of that episode that you just saw

560
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: ends up being something that we we earn and we

561
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: explain and you go, oh, man, okay, I see it's more.

562
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: It's more than just a trauma bond thing. There's a

563
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: history there.

564
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: Hm hmm.

565
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we have a lot to look forward to. Yeah, yeah,

566
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: we go pretty deep in that because now we can.

567
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: When you're building a show, you know from the beginning

568
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: it's the hardest thing to do because you can't just

569
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: dive in. You have to explain who these characters are

570
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: to everyone. Pilot are tough. They're tough because you know,

571
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: as an audience member, I want to know who this

572
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: guy is, like you know, Breaking Bad, Beautiful, Pilot beautiful.

573
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: When you watch it, though, you need to know like

574
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: the circumstances. Okay, he's got lungcans, but he doesn't smoke,

575
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: he's so why did he You have to explain all

576
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: this stuff, right, and then as you get into the series,

577
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: you kind of know it and you can you just

578
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: kind of it just kind of flows. You don't have

579
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: to explain every single time that this guy is justin.

580
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: You are someone who's been working a long time, right,

581
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: and you've been a part of projects that people love,

582
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: and I know you're very grateful to have been a

583
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: part of them, and you don't take it for granted,

584
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: which is amazing to see. What is something you've learned

585
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: about yourself through all of these years as a working actor.

586
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: I mean you're going from job to job and you're

587
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: hustling and it's a very unconventional business. Is there something

588
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: that you've really learned that has helped you kind of

589
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: in this in this career, choice, in this path, in

590
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: your personal life that you can share with people today

591
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: that might help them.

592
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: I find the right partner, Find the right partner, find

593
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: someone who finds someone who someone who will walk to

594
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: the end of the earth with you, who trusts you.

595
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: Surround yourself with the best of the best, and don't

596
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: worry so much about pleasing everyone, because I think the

597
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: people that that get you, that get your heart, didn't

598
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 2: know who you are, that really understand you your kindness.

599
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: I don't think any of that factors into it. I

600
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't think making sure that you're pleasing other people

601
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: really has anything to do with that. I think it's

602
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: being present in the moment. It's an easy thing to say,

603
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 2: a very very hard thing to do, but yeah, find

604
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: the right partner. And that could be that could be

605
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: in a a in a spouse, that could be in

606
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: a sister, that could be in a mother, that could

607
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: be in anybody your team. Just pour into your team,

608
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: find the right people. Surround yourself with people that are

609
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: like minded, that appreciate themselves and that appreciate your help,

610
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: and that you can ask advice from that you can trust,

611
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: and when you have that, you have and your health

612
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: the rest of cake.

613
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: And you strike me as someone who's always wanting to learn. Oh,

614
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: and you're not afraid to ask a question, are you No?

615
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: And sometimes you end up looking like a fool. But

616
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: that's okay, because you know what, I would rather look

617
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: like a fool asking a silly question that everyone in

618
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: the room knew the answer to than assuming that I

619
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: knew the answer to that, and then going about my

620
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: business and doing something and messing up in front of

621
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: the same people and looking like a complete fool. I'd

622
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: rather ask the question.

623
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure when you started executive producing too, you

624
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: had a lot of things that you had to.

625
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: Kind of learn. Oh man, I look. I mean the

626
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: difference between me now and me twenty years ago is

627
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: I didn't have that. I didn't maybe thirty years ago.

628
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: I didn't understand that. And I thought the idea was

629
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: just to make sure that people knew that. So I

630
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: would read a lot of stuff so I knew. I

631
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: knew a lot of stuff. I knew a lot about

632
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 2: a lot of things. I guess kind of from books.

633
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: But I had never stood up and told and directed

634
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: someone in a TV show and told them, Okay, this

635
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: is what I want to do, and given a note

636
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: and seeing their response and understand that my I note

637
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: to you and how I'm going to talk to you

638
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: is completely different than the note I might give that

639
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: gentleman right there who's doing the same thing, you're going

640
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: to respond to it. He might not, or you might

641
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: look at me like, what is he talking about? Where

642
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: this guy's over here going, I know exactly what he's

643
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: talking about. Everyone is so different, So that's part of

644
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: I mean. When I wrote on Smallville, I learned so

645
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: much about acting. I used to read scripts differently. I

646
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: used to read scripts where they would say, and then

647
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: he tugs on I'm making something up. He tugs on

648
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: his hood, a green arrowhood or whatever. He tugs on

649
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: his hood in a way that makes he's uncomfortable. And

650
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: I would read it and I would get a little

651
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: bit angry. I'm not gonna lie, and I'd be like,

652
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: then tell me how I mean how I'm angry. I'm

653
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: not angry. And then I wrote on Smallville and I

654
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: realized those notes aren't for me. Those notes are for

655
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: the people reading the script, that's for the studio and

656
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: the network, and I mean they have to be there.

657
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 2: I was an idiot. I didn't know. And then when

658
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: I directed on Smallville, the same thing. I learned how

659
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: to sort of how to give you notes and stuff

660
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: and how not to offend people. Then I directed on

661
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: This Is Us and with those actors who were doing

662
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: something completely different, on a completely different level. With it's

663
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: just like a completely different animal. And you learn how

664
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: to talk to someone like, how are you gonna give

665
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: Stirling K. Brown a note? Right? How are you gonna

666
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: give Mandy more note? How do you get them? I

667
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: walk up to Mylon and give him a note, But

668
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: that's your job, and I'll never forget. I wanted something

669
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: from this scene when I was directing Mandy in this

670
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: scene with her kids, her like teenage kids, and I

671
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: think I think Kevin was even there. So I was

672
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: directing all of them teenage Kevin was there, and I

673
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: remember just I didn't I didn't quite know how to

674
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: say the note to her, but I just thought, you know,

675
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: she's the character's so annoyed by the way these these

676
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: guys are acting. These kids are acting and they're it's

677
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: just it's almost disappointing, not the actors, but but the

678
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: characters how they're behaving. And I thought to myself, I

679
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: don't know what to say to her, because I'm not

680
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: a mother. I don't know how. But then I just

681
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: remembered and I walked up to her and I just

682
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: I did It wasn't even really note. I just said

683
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: to her, man, this would be so much easier if

684
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: Jack we're here, wouldn't it. And she just froze. And

685
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: I didn't realize what I had said, so but I

686
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: said it and then she just froze. And then I

687
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: saw Mandy freeze and I realized that she got the note,

688
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: and I think it was more than I wanted to say,

689
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: and I just kind of turned around and I was

690
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: just like, okay, leave that alone for a look. And

691
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: then I was like, this roll will tail slate on

692
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: this thing. Just roll it right now. And I was

693
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: like blown away. I mean, I forgot to call cut. Wow,

694
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: I forgot to call cut. I was just watching her.

695
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: I was just like, holy cow, this woman is having

696
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: a moment right now. And I had really had nothing

697
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: to do with my note. I had to do with

698
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: just actors need reminders sometimes, you know, she was incredible,

699
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: and those are the little things that I don't know

700
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: if you can tell I get really excited about this stuff.

701
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: I just think it's you know, when you watch a

702
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: movie and you My wife was just watching a movie

703
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: today and she turned it on. It was it was

704
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Game of the Thrones trilogy, right, Lord of the Rings

705
00:31:51,880 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: trilogy and that's sorry, and yeah, we're not crazy and

706
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: Lord of the Storler and she goes, oh, this part

707
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: always makes me cry. And I go, I go, okay,

708
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna grab find my wallet. And then we

709
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: got to get out of here because we've got to

710
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: go to lunch. And I found my wallet and I

711
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: turned around and she was like crying, and she's seen

712
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: this thing sixty times, and I'm like, this is the

713
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: power of cinema. This is the This is really unbelievable

714
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: how it taps into certain things. Right, we need this stuff.

715
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: It's exciting.

716
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Do you think directing has made you a better actor?

717
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, why it's I I'm I'm easier to give

718
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: a note to I think probably. I think there was

719
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: a time in my life where I was you know

720
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: what that is though is and if I'm being totally honest,

721
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: when someone gives you a note, if a director gives

722
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: you a note and you disagree with it, the way

723
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: that you respond to the note is either you have

724
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: a conversation about it or you don't, and you let

725
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: them know that's not I'm not doing that. And that's

726
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: why this is why I'm not doing that, because he

727
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: you go on and on whatever, and you kind of

728
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: put them in their place and they go back because

729
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: they can't make you do anything. The words have to

730
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: come out of your mouth, right. But all that is

731
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: is insecurity. That's all that is. That's something that you,

732
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: at least in my experience, when you see the person

733
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: walking over to you, and I've been there before, where

734
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: you and I are will be in a scene together

735
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: and you see the director coming out and they're walking

736
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: and in my head twenty years ago, I'm going, God,

737
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: hope he doesn't come to me a hope to note

738
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: it's not from me, hope, And then I'll see him

739
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: veer off to you, and I'm like, thank god. And

740
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: then inevitably the director, when he's done with you, turns

741
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: to me and gives me my note, right, and then

742
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: I learned as a director a lot of times if

743
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: I need something from you in a scene, I might

744
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: not give you the note. You might hear it, but

745
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: I will give the other actor the note. But it's

746
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: for you, yeah, for sure. So you just you learn

747
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: that all of the notes when a director is this

748
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: is just for me, And a director will typically pull

749
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: somebody's side if they have a note that this is

750
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: private whatever. But if there's a note being given on

751
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: set to someone that is in the scene that you

752
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: don't even have dialogue with, at least for me, my

753
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: experience has been listen to it, get all the information

754
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: that might be for you. And if it's not for you,

755
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 2: I bet you can glean something from it. I bet

756
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: you can. There's something that you can participate in the

757
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: next take with in a different way from that note,

758
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: I think. And I feel like that's applicable in any profession. Yeah, Like,

759
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: no matter where you work or who your boss is,

760
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 2: taking notes and feedback is all part of it. Yeah,

761
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: you have to, and if you're good at it, you're

762
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: gonna If you're good at it, it's better for you.

763
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: And it's hard to be good at it because their notes,

764
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: right yeah, and the notes are usually like would we

765
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: get would we'll get script notes? And you know, it's

766
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: always the same. It's like the studio will be like

767
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: and they don't give us a lot of notes, which

768
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 2: is great, but they'll be like the first like three

769
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: lines are just praise and great and it's amazing. We're

770
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: so a threat. It's like page one, sentence four, we're

771
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: wondering if and then it starts right right, but they're

772
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: very good. That that's how you give notes. You have to say, hey,

773
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: by the way, we're all in this together. You don't

774
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: just start blasting people from the you know, like just

775
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: sit there and go here we go once again? You know. Yeah,

776
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think it does. Directing, writing, learning, producing

777
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: alongside Ken Olan has made me a better actor, I hope,

778
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: And just you know, I don't know less stress. It'll

779
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: get done. It'll get done. If we're all here, you know,

780
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: it'll get done. And if it doesn't get done, I

781
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 2: don't know, then we're all in trouble. I guess mm hmmm,

782
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: yeah we are so far we've done it. So how

783
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: do you take time for you when you're filming a

784
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: show like this? I mean, you're busy day in and

785
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: day out. You mentioned sleep. Do you actually get to sleep?

786
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes, yeah, I sometimes I miss a day

787
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: asleep here and there. But it's okay.

788
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Like mentally, how do you stay ready to go and

789
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: take some time for you?

790
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just about scheduling, you know, and

791
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: sometimes you just look at it and you go, like

792
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: I said, finding the right partner, I don't get you know,

793
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: I don't have anybody wondering why I don't have an

794
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: extra thirty minutes for you know, dinner. We're all in

795
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: it together. We do everything together. My wife and I

796
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: do it all together. I could not do this without her, yeah,

797
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: at all. And I mean that. I mean that, and

798
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: she knows that. And so it's about letting. It's about,

799
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, scheduling and figuring it out and going okay,

800
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: I know I need to do. I need to go

801
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: to the gym today, I need to do is I

802
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: have to eat? I think gets some sleep, But I

803
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: might not be able to work out as long as

804
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: I wanted to, I might not be able to spend

805
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: as much time at dinner, and I might not be

806
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: able to sleep as long as I wanted to. Because

807
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: right now one has to be the show, you know,

808
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: of my time. That's what everyone people are watching. It's important.

809
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know. That's that's where That's where I

810
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: am right now. And it's been okay, I've I'm still breathing.

811
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: I feel great. Do I look like shit? You look great? Okay?

812
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: So people ask me. People ask me that all the time.

813
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: They're like, do you sleep? And I'm like, what do

814
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: you mean? Well, you have ninety jobs right now? No,

815
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: I know I'm kidding. I know that, but I do

816
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 2: know that. I do know that I look tired, but

817
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: it's because I'm exhausted now. But I feel great. Good.

818
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to do this. Really, I know that's

819
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: what you need to do this. It's awesome.

820
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well I know everyone here is grateful. And

821
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: I have questions from the audience right, go through as

822
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: many as we can, Okay, so we'll start with, oh,

823
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: good question, what do you think makes a great performance?

824
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god? The second part of this I feel

825
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: like I have to read. But now I'm kind of blushing.

826
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 2: You are super cute? So are you? Tommy? You are

827
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: now I'm cute? All right? Was that our spouse is

828
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: over there. Okay, anyway, what do you wow, I'm proud.

829
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: What do you think makes a great performance? Just cuteness? Okay,

830
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: just about it's all about being cute. Can yeah, I think,

831
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it starts with preparation. Preparation for sure,

832
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: understanding what you're saying, the character, an arc of an

833
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: arc of a scene, and all of that. But it's

834
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: it definitely starts with preparation.

835
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: Okay, up next summer. Summer wants to know. Do you

836
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: have a favorite line from the script or a favorite

837
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: case By the way, my mom and I love you

838
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: so much. Also to you that last part was well,

839
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but I have.

840
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: To read them all. Now. Favorite line or favorite line is.

841
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: I like when he says when he says when he

842
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: looks at whoever might be missing something, a person, and

843
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: he says something to the effect of that he's going

844
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: to do everything he can to bring your daughter back

845
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: to you, or I'm going to work as hard as

846
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: I can. I'm gonna figure out everything I can. I'm

847
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: gonna help you. I like when he says that he

848
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: says in a different way, and we built this white

849
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: whale case as sort of a promise that he promised

850
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: to bring her sister back. And then you'll notice in

851
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: the show he never ever ever promises ever again, ever

852
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: intentionally because he wasn't able to deliver. But I do

853
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: like when he stares them right in the eye and

854
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: he tells them he's going to do everything in case

855
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: he means it everything. I think that so powerful.

856
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Donna, Donna wants to know why is Coulton so stand offish?

857
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: Will he let his guard down with Reenie?

858
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Well, Donna's culter, but that's okay. We all know, we

859
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: all know who you meant. Will he let his guard down?

860
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: Why is he so what stand offish? Stand offish? He's

861
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: not stand offish. He just doesn't answer to that name.

862
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: He didn't know, he didn't know you were talking to him.

863
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: He didn't know you're talking. Uh, well, he let his

864
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: guard down with Reenie. You know, their relationship question. It's

865
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: a great question. And I love Renie by the way.

866
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: That amazing. She's she's cool, Yeah, she's great, and she

867
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: and culture their relationship evolves into something that's really really cool.

868
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: It's like something you don't see a lot on TV.

869
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: There's always this without giving anything away, gosh, there's a

870
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: lot of relationships on TV that I and I enjoy

871
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: them that are like sort of like sexual tension and

872
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: oh okay, well what does that mean? And you endo

873
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: here and right, but you don't see a lot of

874
00:39:54,080 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: just respectful, platonic, awesome relationships, true friends, you know. And

875
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: not to say that that's where the store is going

876
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: to go down the road, but but I just think

877
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: that's so cool to have a and she's a kick

878
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: ass lawyer that he has in his corner. So so

879
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: there's just a I mean, it makes sense that they

880
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: would be in each other's lives in that way.

881
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: What kind of research went to preparing for the role.

882
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: Did you talk to real life rear seekers.

883
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: We did a lot of a lot of talking to

884
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: people who there are people who do this for a

885
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: living and they're typically finding they're also but you know,

886
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: there are people who like look for treasures and stuff.

887
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Then they may or may not be there. And then yeah,

888
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: I have sisters, so they will find everything, I mean

889
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: everything you can't. It's just like they're detectives. But but yeah, yeah,

890
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: of course, you know, you try to do as much

891
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: research as you can. And then also, my brother is

892
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: a police officer. They do a lot of that stuff

893
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: as well. And then we have people that we liaise

894
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: with on set and we're constantly learning too. He's constantly

895
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: doing different things, like trying to like, every scenario is different.

896
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: He's a personage this guy if you know the books,

897
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: so everything is different. Every given scenario might be a

898
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: different percentage of you know, should he stay or should

899
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: he go kind of thing? Should he run or should

900
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: he hide, find shelter or is it time to like

901
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: move and get out of here. So we're constantly learning

902
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: and it's fascinating stuff too. It's and everyone has their

903
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: own opinion right about what they would do, so it's

904
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: cool to sort of talk to people and hear the

905
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: military people have a lot of background and stuff like

906
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: this as well, which is kind of cool. So there's

907
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 2: always stuff you can learn, for sure.

908
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: I really never had a clue that it was a

909
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: profession that people do that.

910
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how successful they are at it, but well.

911
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: Not everyone can be you, you know, all right, Dexter

912
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn into House, All right, what was your best

913
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: moment while working on the show ps I would like

914
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: to be invited to the after party.

915
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: The after is there an after party. Let's go, let's

916
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: do it, let's go. We'll do it, Brookly, there might

917
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: be some writers in this room. I mean, these are

918
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: really good. I'll tell you. My best moment of the

919
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 2: show was we had just there was a pandemic and

920
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: got to miss it and it was a really weird,

921
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: really weird time, and everyone kind of shut down. I know,

922
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: I locked myself in my house for two years. I

923
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: went to work if this is us, and that I

924
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: would go home and they would go to work home,

925
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: and that's it. And it was really cool to see.

926
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: There were actually two moments. It was really cool to

927
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: see people back to work and they were in masks

928
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: and stuff. But we hadn't worked for so long and

929
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: you saw everybody at work and it was just like, wow, okay,

930
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: you have one hundred and something people working again. And

931
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: then we had a strike, and then we had a

932
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: writer strike. Then we had an actors strike, you know,

933
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: couple with the writers strike, and it was just kind

934
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: of a really a fraud period in our business. To

935
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: be honest with you, To come back from that and

936
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: see everybody back to work is really awesome as well.

937
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: So those are the times when you when you sit

938
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: there and you go, man, we worked really hard. There's

939
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people that were involved in making the

940
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: show and creating the show, and I was one of them.

941
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: And you look out and you see hundreds of people

942
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: that have jobs that are excited to be at work.

943
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: That's really cool. That is really cool. Yeah, look at

944
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: looking at a crew list and you're flipping through all

945
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: these names and you're like, wow, all these people are employed.

946
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's a good feeling. Man.

947
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: All right, Megan, Megan is wondering what is your greatest

948
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: joy and take away from filming Tracker.

949
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: That people like it, honestly, that people watch it. I

950
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: think every performer wants an audience. And I and and

951
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: just the fact I love when people say this. I watch,

952
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: I hear this all thing. A dude will be like, oh,

953
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: I watch it with my daughter, or I watch it

954
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: with my wife, or I watch my girlfriend. Women'll be back,

955
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh I watch it with my wife, or I watch

956
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: it with my husband, or I watch it with my daughter.

957
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: I watch it with my grandkids. Oh my grandmother loves

958
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: that show. Oh my kids love that show. We love

959
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: that show. We all watch it as a family. That's awesome.

960
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: That is, that's terrific because then you don't have someone

961
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: else in this room watching God knows what, and someone

962
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: else in this room watching God knows what. They're all

963
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: sitting around and excited about a show that they can

964
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: all watch together and then they can talk about it afterwards.

965
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's cool. So it's all about it. It's amazing.

966
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Rich from Port Jeff. Are you in a group chat

967
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: with the This is Us actors?

968
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: If so? Oh, who is the most active in the chat?

969
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: We definitely have more than one. There are probably some

970
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: that I'm not even in. I'm into several with them. Yeah,

971
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: but the main one who's the most active and the

972
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: main one. We're all pretty active in it. I mean,

973
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: I guess, man, I don't know who's the most active.

974
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: We all chime in. We all chime in from here.

975
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: It depends on something's going on, like if someone's in town,

976
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm in town, and then and then

977
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: it kind of gets crazy. And then there are days

978
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: where there's nothing, and then there'll be like a photo

979
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: that someone found and then there'll be like just going

980
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: nuts for a while. Everyone's pretty active.

981
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: Does anyone leave the group chat, like there's always one

982
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: no exit, no now you all right?

983
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird when people do that? But I love

984
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: it. It sends a clear message, well leaving the group chat,

985
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: but now you can well now you can mute them

986
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: so you don't have to leave. Well that's the move. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

987
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: just mute. You don't have to be rude about it, right,

988
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: all right?

989
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: Jee Marie from Saga Aft How closely, if at all,

990
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: does your life resemble that of your character?

991
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: Meaning? Are you you a real wood z off the

992
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: grid kind of man? Sure? Yeah, I mean I'll go yeah,

993
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: I'll go deep into the woods. I also like room service,

994
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna be honest with you. I do it all.

995
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: I mean I could take care of you. Know what's funny,

996
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: My father growing up was really handy with stuff. He

997
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: get my brother's really good at building, so my brother

998
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: could build a HOUSEB like incredible mind for that stuff.

999
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: I never had that when I was a kid. I

1000
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: was more like, oh, I don't know a storyteller, and

1001
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: I just didn't have any interest in it. And as

1002
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: I got older and got my own stuff, and all

1003
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: my stuff started to break. As homes do you have

1004
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: to learn how to maintain stuff and take care of things,

1005
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: and so I've learned quite a bit. I'm pretty handy

1006
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: now and I never used to be. I think my

1007
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: sister's kind of like that as well. She does a

1008
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: lot of things now that I don't think she really

1009
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 2: had an interest in doing before she had her own stuff,

1010
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: which is understandable. So yeah, I think I could survive

1011
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: in the woods. I would not be like culture Shaw though, No,

1012
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: I would need to. I would need some like I'd

1013
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: have to go to like is it Arii or whatever

1014
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: and get some food rations and stuff. Yeah, I get

1015
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: some propane tanks. I'd be you know, the airstream seems cool, though,

1016
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, have you done one? Have you gone? No?

1017
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: All right, not his character. So I spend most of

1018
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: my life in a trailer, whether whether it's my cast

1019
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: trailer or the airstream, I'm always in. It's unbelievable. Yeah,

1020
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: you're over it. It's a lot of trailer. Yeah, yeah,

1021
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. I get it.

1022
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: We have time for one more. This is a nice

1023
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: note to end on. Did you have any idea of

1024
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: the show would be so popular?

1025
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: No, I know, I knew that we were given a shot,

1026
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: and I appreciated it when the network told us that

1027
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: CBS told us that we're going to put us after

1028
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I appreciated the shot when when twenty

1029
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: had told us that they were going to option the

1030
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: book for us, When the studio and the network worked

1031
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: together on this and made it everything that it that

1032
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: it was, and they advertised it like crazy, and they

1033
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: really did a great job of building it. But much

1034
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: like this is us, and I think probably anything else

1035
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: you never know, Like for instance, Tracker huge hit, and

1036
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: if we spun it off, you just don't know if

1037
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: it's going to find an audience. I don't know if

1038
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: there's a I mean I know more than I used

1039
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: to about that. Like I feel like I could build

1040
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 2: a show that would that would that would have an audience,

1041
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: but this level I didn't know. No, I didn't know,

1042
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: but I'm happy it does. So what's the magic sauce?

1043
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Why is it so popular? Well that's between me and Kenolan. No.

1044
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 2: I think I think we hit all the right things.

1045
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: I think you have to find the right level of drama.

1046
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: You have to find the right level of levity. There

1047
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: has to be suspense, I think, and there has to

1048
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: be intrigue in the character. You have to root for

1049
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: the character. You have to really want the character to

1050
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: get what he wants. It has to make sense, it

1051
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: has to the timing of it has to make sense.

1052
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: And also the you know, you try to find that

1053
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: elusive audience, which is it's a male audience between like

1054
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: what is it twenty seven and forty five something like

1055
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: where they don't watch anything, they just watch football only

1056
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: or whatever. You have to try to find that audience,

1057
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: and I think part of doing that is creating a

1058
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: show that everyone can watch together. So that's the goal.

1059
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: That's what you try to do. And but if there

1060
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: was a magic secret sauce, that's just what everyone would do.

1061
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: I think it's it's just it's just a really well written,

1062
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: hopefully well performed, beautiful looking show that is kind of

1063
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: a throwback to an older style of show that we

1064
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: don't really have anymore. And I think there's an appetite

1065
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: for more of those. These shows that come on that

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Speaker 2: are episodic with a serialized element to them, where the

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Speaker 2: character evolves slowly over time, so you get, oh, you

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Speaker 2: get benefits from watching it in one after the other.

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Speaker 2: But there's also a really cool idea where you can

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Speaker 2: watch episode seven of season four and kind of get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's awesome as well. But I think there's

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Speaker 2: there's an appetite for more of these shows, like throwback

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Speaker 2: shows to these characters that we used to see that

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Speaker 2: we don't really see anymore, and it gives you hope.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every episode you watch it and you feel

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Speaker 1: like by the end of it, and maybe every one

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Speaker 1: in season two won't end this way, but you walk

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Speaker 1: away feeling like, man, they did it.

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Speaker 2: And it was one it was earned. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 2: whole family or friends or you know, lovers are all happy,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like in this day and age, more

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Speaker 2: of that. Yeah. So thank you. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks well, thank you for the work you put out

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Speaker 2: into the world, and thank you, thank you for coming.

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Speaker 1: Tracker returns on October thirteenth on CBS and Paramount Plus.

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Speaker 2: Let's give it up for justin one more time. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Yeah, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I've never said this before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario.

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