1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: my name is Nol. They call me Ben. We are 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: joined with our super producer Paul Decan Paul Pickens in 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: the house, Ladies and gentlemen, Paul, this is this is 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: a new development. Yes, yeah, I prefer additional. Yeah, we've 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: been in beginning the house. Stuff works, stuff they don't 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: want you to know. Family. Is he the guy who 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: made that toilet they got in the art museum? Yeah, definitely. 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: He's a man of many times. Oh yeah, du Champ, 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: this is de Camp and he's he's a philosopher. He's 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: a philosopher and filmmaker who he's been around just forever 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: and worked closely with me on some other shows that 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: we do with how Stuff Works and an unending source 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: of pre show banter. Yeah. Yeah, so that's Paul. Paul. 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Is Paul you or you and that makes this stuff 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know? So everybody right in 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: and I wish Paul luck having to deal with us. Yes, 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: please do that. So we've talked in the past about 22 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: the world's extensive network of military basis. These could be 23 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: publicly acknowledged, these could be speculated or speculative, or they 24 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: could be just rumors on the dark web. Right, yeah, exactly. 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: The the Deep Underground Military Basis episode still holds a 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: special place in my heart. And we had an Ice 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Ice base episode, yeah, didn't we? Yeah, so this is 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: sort of like, this is like a trilogy. Can we 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: call this the third part of a trilogy? I think 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: there might be even be more. Can we call it 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: the base God trilogy? Yes? Okay, if we don't get sued. 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Uh So, just on a personal thing. I don't talk 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: about personal stuff too much on the show. But I 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: grew up on a series of military installations, any of 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: them underwater, not to my knowledge. You know, they did 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: have pools. He probably got memory wiped and maybe I did. Uh. 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: I was on Um. I was on a number of 38 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: US military bases, proven ones, public ones. Today, the US 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: operates around eight hundred military bases that we know about, 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: and they're not They're not all the super nice basis 41 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: like you would see in South Korea or in Germany. Right, Um, 42 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of them are in places that are in 43 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: the grips of tyrannical governments, right, Yeah, that's one thing 44 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: to note here. Many of the United States military bases, 45 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: or at least ones that they control, are not inside 46 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: the United States. They are in other countries that they're 47 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: operating in cooperation with another country. And if you want 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: to see a very sobering map, I would highly recommend 49 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: you check out the UH any variety of maps which 50 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: will show you the number of US military bases on 51 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: foreign soil directly surrounding Iran. And how many people would 52 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: you say, typically does a military base make? It ranges 53 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: wid Yeah, it ranges. It could be it could be 54 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: very small, that's an excellent question. It could be very 55 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: very small, and it could also be the size of 56 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: a city, you know. And in many ways, UH some 57 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: of the larger bases are built so that people who 58 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: live there, either as support staff for military officers or 59 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: family members, never have to leave the base. They have 60 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: multiple schools, multiple shops, There are different restaurants, bars, bowling alleys, 61 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: religious buildings. We think about an aircraft care are that's 62 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: essentially the size of a city with the number of 63 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: people in a small city just roaming around in the 64 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: international waters. And it's a base too. I've only been 65 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: to one. Actually that's not true. I was born on 66 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: a military base, but I don't remember it very well. 67 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: But in my hometown of Augusta, Georgia, there's a big 68 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: one called Fort Gordon, and the only thing I can 69 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: really remember about it is that it has a really 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: big burger king, nice like a plush premium burger king. 71 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: The the largest, well, it depends on how you measure it. 72 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: But as we're recording this, the largest military base on 73 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: US soil is Fort Bragg. It has a population just 74 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: under two hundred and forty thousand people, and that's the 75 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: like active living there population, which is huge. This number 76 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: that we're we're mentioning here around eight hundreds scattered across 77 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: the globe, doesn't really encapsulate everything because it doesn't kind 78 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the number of ongoing training or non permanent exercises, some 79 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: of which can last indefinitely. So the way a lot 80 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: of these things would work would be a situation where 81 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: the U. S. Military partners with the military of another 82 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: nation in Afghanistan, like they're currently doing right, and they 83 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: train the in country military members to to learn how 84 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: to use US military tech, to learn how to use 85 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: the various strategies and techniques. And despite being called non permanent, 86 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: as we've seen that stuff can become a quagmire and 87 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: we can have a de facto functioning military base. These 88 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: are without a doubt. I think you'll hear us say 89 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: this on our on our earlier segments of our Base 90 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: Guide trilogy. These are without a doubt. Controversial organizations US 91 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: leadership will claim that these have numerous benefits. They'll say, 92 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: we have to have bases in Europe to protect our 93 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: European allies, primarily from Russia. Right, no surprise there. Uh. 94 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: The bases in the Middle East are often touted as 95 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: containing Iranian influence, which is kind of a tricky term, 96 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: and ensuring the free flow of oil, so there's a 97 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: pretty public acknowledgement that that is about ensuring access to resources. Then, 98 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: of course you've got bases throughout Asia that a lot 99 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: of times will be said as defending US allies from 100 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: this rising threat or at least perceived threat from a 101 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: military standpoint of China and possibly an unstable North Korea, 102 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: which seems to be again every time we make one 103 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: of these podcasts. There needs to be more news coming out. 104 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: And again, North Korea is a threat that is really 105 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: on the radar of at least the president and the 106 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: military here in the United States. Yeah, and it's on 107 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: the It's on the radar of the Western world. It's 108 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: definitely on the radar of its patron state China. Uh yeah, 109 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: I think, I think geo politically, it is very much 110 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: becoming an unsustainable situation in a flashpoint. These military bases, 111 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: regardless of which country owns or runs them, are multifunctional. 112 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Their surveillance hubs, they gather all the intelligence, right, We've 113 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: seen those. You know, people will go back and forth 114 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: with you about what count is a base, like are 115 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: the listening centers in five Eyes? Are they military installations 116 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: or are they just a different branch of a base. 117 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Regardless of how they are categorized, Often military bases are 118 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: home to surveillance hubs. They may be home to detainment 119 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: centers where in US law does not apply as much 120 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: as it would citizens, like the ones where they strap 121 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: you down to a chair and make you listen to 122 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Jefferson Starship at hundred and fifty decibels for days at 123 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: a time. Had a good old black sites that happened 124 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, what's why I am the way I am. Oh, 125 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: it makes so much sense. The the black sites might 126 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: be a little bit different because they were hands off 127 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: and technically run by other kind. It's a black site 128 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: that exists inside the it never happened. Right. These can 129 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: also be really important refueling or re equipping spots. They 130 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: can be links or vertebrae in the supply chain of 131 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: an operation, and of course much more. It is, as 132 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: we said, enormously controversial because US military bases a count 133 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: as US soil, regardless of the country in which they're 134 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: city situated. Yeah. I have a birth certificate that says 135 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: I am a citizen born abroad because I was born 136 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: on a American military base in Germany. Whoa you could 137 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: you not ever be a present? Like? Can? I think 138 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: I think it counts because because what they just said 139 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: about old magical soil. Yeah yeah, uh. These are also 140 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: of course a huge trope in fiction, right, And whenever 141 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: we see them in fiction, they're they're never quite normal 142 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: boring basis, they're super secret. They don't have burger kings, 143 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: they don't they don't have burger kings. Uh, and they 144 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: they're often they might if there's a product tie in, 145 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, they might. But if they do have a 146 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: product tie in, then it's going to be better than 147 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: the average Burger king. That's true. You have like a 148 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: super Whopper. They might have an awesome theme song like 149 00:09:50,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: see Lab Underneath the Water spoilers. Man's Okay. What's great 150 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: is since this is an audio show, Uh, I wish 151 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: we could tell you friends and neighbors that Matt just 152 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: did the most endearing look around after he did that 153 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: bit of a jingle. Also. Uh So, you know, when 154 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: we think of these military bases in fiction, they're always 155 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: doing amazing stuff. They're they're pretty much always privy to 156 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: technology that's beyond the grasp of the public. Or we're 157 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: in a post apocalyptic scenario where they're the last bastion 158 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: of humanity but still somehow terrifically flawed. Yeah, there has 159 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: to be a reason you're in this extreme place inside 160 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: a base. It's not like you just built that base 161 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: there because it was a good idea. So what are 162 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: something just been to save face maybe save base face. 163 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: It's like you're in this extreme place when you're in 164 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: this base. I was not just so now I'm doing 165 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: the look around. Oh, I think we I think we 166 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: all can't rhyme space with space bro. The thing we're 167 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: all familiar with, right, uh, is this idea of these 168 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: enormously advanced and secretive basses. What are some in fiction 169 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: that you all remember? For me, I always think of 170 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the floating basses in superhero or comic fiction like Shield 171 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the Avengers, I think is so cool. Oh yeah, for 172 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: me it's Austin Powers and Dr Evil. He had several basses, 173 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: some underwater, some in volcanoes. I get confused because we've 174 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: been talking about like the ice bases and you know 175 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: the underwater bases, and like now you're thinking of like 176 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: moon bases and stuff with James Bond, is what I think? Yeah, 177 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: but I actually there isn't exactly an ice space in 178 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: James Bond movies. I was like, surely there absolutely is, 179 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: but I couldn't there. There was one end of from 180 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: one of the later movies, but it wasn't really like 181 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: a secret military installation or like a I don't know, um, yeah, 182 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: but that is sort of James Bond movies are the 183 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: king of weird basses. True, absolutely remember all your bass 184 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: I belonged to us? Yeah, what was that about that? 185 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: I think that was about poor translation services, right, is 186 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: that where it goes back to? And then there's also 187 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: a very interesting sub genre r in fiction where there 188 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: are under water research facilities. The abyss. Yeah you remember 189 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: the abyss? Pretty good, h There was also there's fear. 190 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: I think what in particular Deep Blue Sea. Do you 191 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: guys remember that evil Shark was that? Do not spoil 192 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: for the listeners of this show. They need to watch 193 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: that movie. Okay, absolutely, Perhaps a better word is experience that. 194 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: My head's like a Sharks fan. No, but that was 195 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: it was like ll o cool j that was the 196 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: deep theme, Deep Blue Sea theme, God memories. It's all good. 197 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: So but here's the big question. Could any of these 198 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: things that are represented in Hollywood represented, you know, in animation, 199 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: could any of these be actually real? We didn't even 200 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: talk about sequest, we didn't. I'm that and see lab 201 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: see Lab. Yeah, well I mentioned it, right, But this 202 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: is a call back to your sort of like yeah, 203 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: and seems like see like they had all those pods 204 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: that were built up down there. It was really interesting. 205 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: But that show was making fun of like an absurdly 206 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: common trope, whether it's like you know, sequest or the 207 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: James Bond thing or any of like the abyss all 208 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: that stuff. And you know, it's this sense that like 209 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: this is where the scientists like do their dirty work. Yeah, 210 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: did you work on Sea Lab? Hey? Right to us, 211 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: let us know, just tell us the secrets of the show, 212 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: because we we love it. I love it, okay, And uh, 213 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the most mediate example of a secret base in a 214 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: weird environment. I feel like we have to give it 215 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: an honorable mention is Area fifty one, absolutely totally because 216 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, it wasn't officially even acknowledged until 217 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: um just four years ago, and that was via some 218 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: declassified documents from the National Security Archive. Uh So, Area 219 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: fifty one, at least officially is was located in a 220 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: remote part of the Nevada Desert where the testing of 221 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: highly classified aircraft UM was able to take place, you know, 222 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: beyond the prying eyes of the public, and at relatively 223 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: relatively sure. Uh And if you want, you can see 224 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: a list of over sixty d classified documents on the 225 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: site if you just search for the Area fifty one 226 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: file n s a archive. So that's some some fun 227 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: reading material. So it's great. It goes in all different 228 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: kinds of aspects, going into the spy planes, some of 229 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: the stealth aircraft, the high velocity aircraft, how they were 230 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: able to, like just the testing of it over the years, 231 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: and what worked, what didn't some of the uh, some 232 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: of the problems that they ran into with being discovered 233 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: essentially or reported as UFOs. It's really interesting. Yeah. And 234 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: I think you add in our notes, Matt, that the 235 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: single that that single instance or that trove of docs 236 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: could make for its own episode. Yeah. Absolutely, and so 237 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: again honorable mention for Area fifty one aside, could any 238 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: of this strange stuff out of fiction? B you know? Real? Yeah? 239 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: Where does it get crazy? Is it? It's soon? Right, 240 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: it's after a word from our response, Here's where it 241 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: gets crazy. What do I know? Every time? The US 242 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: really may have some bases and strange environments, and we 243 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: cannot say whether there's anything permanent on the moon. No, uh, 244 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: we just can't say. We're not saying no, there's nothing 245 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: on the moon. We just can't. We don't know. We 246 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: were very careful with that one. And the International Space 247 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: Station or i s S is more like a jointly 248 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: run laboratory. But we know the US and other countries 249 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm so cartooniously proud of this have floated. Get it. 250 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: It's written down right here, folks. The idea of building 251 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: bases underwater. I was up too late. So we know 252 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: that the US has been experimenting with concept of undersea 253 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: habitats since at least the nineteen sixties. Hey, remember that 254 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: show Sea Lab. It was an actual thing. You might 255 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: not remember this. It was called c Lab. And look, 256 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: I think we gotta jump the sea shark talking about 257 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: that one a little too early, but that I'll take 258 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: the I'll take the fall for that one. Guy's no worries. 259 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: But there was s Lab one there, just Sea Lab, 260 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: the original. Then there was two and C Lab three 261 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: the lab. Yeah, there we go. I like that. Yeah, 262 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: this was This was a series of experiments meant to 263 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: prove the viability of saturation diving and of having humans 264 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: living in isolation and small groups for an extended period 265 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: of time, which reminds me when we talk about people 266 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: stuck in research centers in Antarctica. Do you think they 267 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: had any frogman on staff? I would, I would hope. 268 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: So these would have to be very experienced divers, so 269 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised there was. In this political environment. 270 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: In the sixties, a fellow named C. F. Austin of 271 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: the China Lake Naval Ordinance Test Station proposed something he 272 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: called the rock site concept. These would be manned undersea 273 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: installations that were built into the rock of the sea floor, 274 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: which sounds kind of crazy, but they were already well 275 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: understood principles used by the mining industry for decades and 276 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: decade AIDS. So Austin essentially said, why don't we use 277 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: this mining technology, these mining techniques and make large bases 278 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: anywhere there's suitable bedrock inside the ocean at any depth. 279 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: That okay, So I got some I got some issues 280 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: and some stuff to go in here. So first of all, 281 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about mining operations where they're building drills or 282 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: they're sending drills deep down into the ocean, and they're 283 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: having to build infrastructure to maintain those the large pipes 284 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: and everything that are going down there, and the pumps 285 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So that makes sense understand that 286 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: that's in the sixties. I'm just trying to wrap my 287 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: head around any depth because there are such issues with creating, 288 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, in an environment with at pressure and then 289 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: just sending people down there. Man, I don't know. I 290 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: love that. In the sixties, Uh, this gentleman, see if 291 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Austin and you know, a whole host of other people 292 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: thought that this was a viable idea. And it makes 293 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: me think, where are we now if in the sixties 294 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 1: we could have done that. Yeah, you could lower a 295 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: tunnel boring machine into a mine shaft or a shaft 296 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: in the ocean floor into pieces and then you assemble 297 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: it inside the tunnel to make more tunnels. Uh. You know, 298 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: we we talked before about Camp Century in Antarctica, where 299 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: they built a tunnel for a small nuclear reactor, which 300 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: already if you are uncomfortable with the ocean, if you 301 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: have a fear of drowning, I think being next door 302 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: to the nuclear reactor tunnel is in case in ice 303 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: no less. Yeah, is an extra bit of icing on 304 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: the crippling phobia cake. You ever tried to, like think 305 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: about what it would feel like to drown? Yeah? It sucks. Yeah, 306 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: I mean I think, Matt, did this just occur to you? 307 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: Do You're not? No, I just thought about it for 308 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: the first time and I did not like, Well, it's 309 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: like one of those things where you're like, what would 310 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: it feel like to not exist? And so you should? 311 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: I can't wrap your head around any it feels like that. Yeah, 312 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: it would easier to wrap your head around in a 313 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: terrifying way. It feels like it would be an easier 314 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: way to go than say the I guess the opposite 315 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: would be burning alive if I had a choice, if 316 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: I had to choose one, Yeah, drowned me all day. 317 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: I'll go for the Salem witch dust. You guys, go 318 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: for it. I'm gonna stay over here on land and 319 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: breathe in air. Are we being too more big, Matt? No, 320 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: it's great. Are a coworker Holly Fry who we talked about. 321 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes she will not buy a car that doesn't have 322 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: manual windows in case she ever, you know, goes off 323 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: a bridge in her car and then you know, the 324 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: windows don't work and then you can't escape. Yeah. I 325 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: bought a specific tool that I keep next to me 326 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: at all times. It's a specific with a little blade 327 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: to cut the sea. Everything you need. Dang man, those 328 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: are want to hang out, No you don't. I've got 329 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: a tiny little container of seeds and that thing, and 330 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: that's it and a machete. Yeah, that's that tool is 331 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: a tool that I strongly recommend everybody keeping their car, 332 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: along with a Douffel bag that can sustain you, clothe you, 333 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: and feed you for twenty four hours. A go bag 334 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: they call if you are listening, to show you probably 335 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: already know about these things. Well, I'm sorry we took 336 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: a turn for the morbid matt especially because I'm gonna 337 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: squeeze the one side fact that is even more morbid. 338 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Here in the US. We have no idea how many 339 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: cars to Holly Fries Point have fallen into lakes only 340 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: to be discovered years later when weather patterns change or 341 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: when uh the lakes dry up. And there are hundreds 342 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: and they have corpse is in them. So I just 343 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: want you to think about that next time you drive 344 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: by a lake. Drive very carefully. Don't be a statistic, 345 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: or if you're going to be a statistic, be like 346 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: a cool statistic. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. That's 347 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: a great one. I escaped and saved some people that 348 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: we could have really great hair and pectorals. And I 349 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: can lure my body temperature whenever I want, with your mind, 350 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: with my mind. That have any sense. I. I feel 351 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: like if somebody didn't know Matt and they just saw 352 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: him on the street, they would think he was the 353 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: type to do that. Would be like that guy controls 354 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: his body typerature absolutely all right. So to escape from 355 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: the morbidity, let's let's look at some of the let's 356 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: play a thought experiment. Okay, if if we were building 357 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: a permanent undersea base, we'd have some pretty compelling advantages. 358 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: If we could pull it off, we'd have some very 359 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: high stakes and dangerous uh obstacles, possible cons sequences. Advantages 360 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: seabed or sea cover, You've got an extra layer of security. 361 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: It's inaccessible to conventional forces. Yeah, you can't just head 362 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: on down there in a boat or a plane or 363 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: a car or anything like that. You have to have 364 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: specific gear to get down to that depth. Yeah, you 365 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: probably are not able to just jump in and swim 366 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: and swim over there. Stupid question. Is there like a 367 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: limit for how long submarines will staying completely submerged? And 368 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: I know people will go out on ships for a 369 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: long time, but if you're on a sub are you 370 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: like underwater like all the time? There are there are limits. 371 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: They vary on the class of submarine, but there are 372 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: they're both hard psychological limits and hard resource less. Why 373 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: can't they just recreate the conditions of like a sub 374 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: but like in something that's somehow anchored to the ocean floor, 375 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: like whether it's chained to the sea floor or like 376 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: like like you're talking about made through some kind of rock, 377 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: rock outcropping or something like that. Yeah, that's the that's 378 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: one of the most compelling arguments. Because we know that 379 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: submarines can already exist at least approximately at these depths. 380 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: The big question is whether humans can exist for an 381 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: indefinite time there without running out of air or food 382 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: or frankly, candidly, I know this disturbing, uh, killing each other. Yeah, 383 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: like a like a John Carpenter movie type scenario exactly 384 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: like a like a bottle episode of a sitcom gone wrong, 385 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: you know. And Yeah, depending on where this base is constructed, 386 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: like if it's deep underground in some kind of cavern 387 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: or something, you could escape all kinds of natural disasters, 388 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: all kinds of weather. Um, just hundreds, there are hundreds 389 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: of things you could get away from just because you're 390 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: deep inside the earth, inside the water. This idea is 391 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: really starting to appeal to you as an amat. It 392 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: really is starting to appeal to me. However, there are 393 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: some problems. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's enormously expensive, not 394 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: just to build it, but just to keep people alive 395 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: in it is Financially it is a challenging costs that 396 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: I cannot fathom, uh fathom. Yet we also are not sure. 397 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: We have a lot of research on the long term 398 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: effects of semi permanent life in the depths or in isolation, 399 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: but we don't have a solid enough case to know 400 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: what would happen if we built a base that was 401 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: supposed to last for a hundred years, and I would 402 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: really have to be in a league of its own. 403 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Oh and you would probably have to set it up 404 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: where personnel on base are only there in you know, 405 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: increments of time, like on the submarine exactly. You have 406 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: to set it up that way. So here's the other question. 407 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: Let's say the worst possible thing happens. Let's say there's 408 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: a super secret undersea Millie Terry base and it's somehow 409 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: doing some sketchy stuff in violation of international law, right, 410 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: and everything's humming along quite nicely until a catastrophe occurs, 411 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: maybe a cavern collapses, a submarine that is dock in 412 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: there for some reason explodes, there is a fire that 413 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: damages any um air recycling stuff. Unexpected volcanic activity unexpected. 414 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's a great one. Yeah, unexpected volcanic geothermal activity. 415 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: Could the people at the base be saved and how 416 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: because this would still be sort of an off the books, Yeah, structure, 417 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: off the book structure and trying to get you know, 418 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: depending on how many people you have, they're getting enough 419 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: of those people safely to the surface without causing any 420 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: of the effects that you get from surfacing too quickly 421 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: or you know, there are so many problems, and even 422 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: if they're in pressure, I guess it would be a 423 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: little easier, but just some crazy things to think about. 424 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: So with those things in mind, what what sort of 425 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: stuff would people build or what have they built? And 426 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: perhaps most importantly, why why do this? You know, one 427 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: thing I was thinking just before the bane of any 428 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: secret undersea base is navy frogman. I'm telling you those 429 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: Navy frogman in there. Yeah, right, and they're human torpedoes. Well, 430 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: we do know that there are there are multiple non 431 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: military experiments with the viability of life undersea and the U. S. 432 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Navy actually has a small scale version of a underwater 433 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: military operation right here in the good old US of A. 434 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: It's something that we had never heard about before. It's 435 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: called the United States Navy Acoustic Research Detachment or a 436 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: r D. Okay, that's a that's a long one. It's 437 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: look in Lake penned Ori Oriel in Bayview, Idaho. And uh, 438 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: this lake is the largest one in Idaho. It's also 439 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: the deepest in the quietest. It's has a surface area 440 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: of a hundred and forty eight square miles and the 441 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: highest depths depths or the lowest depths I guess, are 442 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: up to eleven feet and it has an almost constant 443 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: surface temperature of thirty nine point five degrees fahrenheit. And 444 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: most importantly for this base, most of the shoreline on 445 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: this lake is not populated. It consists of mostly national 446 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: forests that are owned by the government. And there are 447 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: a couple little pockets of humanity and civilization that live 448 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: there in these little resort areas. But that's it. So 449 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: what what are they doing? What kind of stuff are 450 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: they up to there in Idaho? Well, they are they 451 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: are building and testing unmanned, scaled down submarines. That sounds cool, right, 452 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: So think about the drone technology that you're aware of 453 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: that we've seen in the news with the uh the airplanes, right, 454 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: they're doing that with submarines. They're about a quarter of 455 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: the length of a full size sub and they're testing 456 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: brand new, state of the art acoustic technology and probably 457 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: lots of other revolutionary tech that we don't know about, 458 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: and they're testing them in this lake specifically because it's 459 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: so quiet and because it's so calm, and there's just 460 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: no other interference, so their tests can come out almost pristine. 461 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: So one quarter the length of a full size sub 462 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: would make that up to eight feet. Yeah, eight feet 463 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: is kind of an average for what you would see there, 464 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: because you know, the different models of the submarines vary. 465 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: And the really cool thing about utilizing these models rather 466 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: than full size submarines in this lake is that it 467 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: saves anybody listening, including the four of us, who is 468 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: a citizen of the United States, a lot of money. 469 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: I think at the time when the article we were 470 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: reading for this was written, which is years and years 471 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: and years ago, the quote was that save billions of 472 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: dollars in development costs, so I can only imagine that 473 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: that's you know, exponentially increased in savings over time. And 474 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: at first, blush. There doesn't seem to be anything nefarious 475 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: about this. This is just a testing center and they're 476 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: hoping to save money and probably ultimately save lives. I mean, yes, 477 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: on the surface, absolutely true. But you guys, let's say 478 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: that you're, you know, an underwater military scientist. You've been 479 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, working on your human experiments in your secret 480 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: underwater base lab whatever, and you want to take a 481 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: little break. What what's that? What's what's a scientist like 482 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: that to do for a little respite. I'll tell you 483 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: you go to one of the world's many underwater hotels. 484 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh buddy, because that's obviously you spend all your time 485 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: toiling away in an underwater lab. You want to go 486 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: on vacation and in an underwater thing. Well yeah, you 487 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: want to ride that same feeling that you've had. You 488 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: just want to make it more positive. Exactly. No, I'm 489 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but there, you know, there's this is a 490 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: thing underwater hotels. And at first that was the first 491 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: thing that popped into my head where it's like, duh, 492 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: cracked it. They've been doing these underwater hotels things and 493 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: Dubai and Key West Forever, and then I look it 494 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: up and it's like a whopping twenty feet below the 495 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: ocean surface. And I'm like, that's not nearly as impressive 496 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: of what we're talking about. I still stay in one. 497 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: They're cool. Look, and there's this one called Atlantis at 498 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: the Palm and Dubai very opulent. This one in Key West, 499 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: the Planet Ocean underwater Hotel straight up looks like sea Lab. 500 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: Look at this, it looks like a series of pods. Definitely, 501 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: it's but it's pretty cool. So maybe we'll take a 502 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: group a group vacation to one of those one days. Yes, please, 503 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: We'll have a conspiracy adventure all our own, right, Yes. 504 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: And just to really quickly jump back over to UH 505 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: to the acoustic the Navy Acoustic Research Detachment. Just to 506 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: give some history. We have a quote from an l 507 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: A Times article here and it says that the Navy's 508 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Acoustic Research Detachment plays a key role in the Quest 509 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: Forever Quieter submarines. It's the only active duty remnant of 510 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: the former Ferragut Naval Training Center which was there, and 511 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: it was established during World War Two, and UH in nine, 512 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: most of that center's four thousand acres became a state park, 513 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: but they kept along a lot a couple other parts 514 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: of this base and they built it out to do 515 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: this whole drone submarine testing for the acoustics. And it's 516 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: relatively small to just like two acres, right, yeah, twenty 517 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: two acres along the lakes south end, and uh, there's 518 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: a resort community of three people near it, so like 519 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: you're not you're not dealing with a ton of boats 520 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: a ton of people on the water, but you are 521 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: if you're walking along the shore, maybe on vacation, and 522 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: if you, uh, you do have a chance to see 523 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: remote control model submarines. They're housed in these sheds built 524 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: over the lake. So the models are not arms as 525 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: far as we could find. They're not testing weaponry um, 526 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: at least officially they're not. And one weird thing is 527 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: that they have they have people protesting nuclear power there, 528 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: but it doesn't have any nuclear facilities. Yeah, that's true. 529 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: There there are a lot of people thinking that there 530 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: was a nuclear facility that was going to be built there, 531 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: um and we'll get there are a lot of rumors 532 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: and interesting things going on there at this Lake Lake 533 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: penned Oriel or Oriel. Somebody correct me, tell me how 534 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: to say it correctly. There was another quotation that you found, Matt, 535 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: that I thought was pretty interesting. It says. Over the years, 536 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: the Basis mission has sparked rumors and dark fantasies. Some 537 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: locals believe a secret underwater river provides the gateway for 538 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: full size subs from the Pacific Ocean about three hundred 539 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: miles away. And for cryptid fans, there's one more fun fact. 540 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is it? And another legend links the 541 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: base and a mythical underwater beast named Pondi. So pondire 542 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: big fans. I mean, I've never heard of Pondi. I'm 543 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: just a fan in theory I loved. So here's the deal. 544 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: I think Pondi exists. This is just my take. So 545 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: if this thing has been around, there's been there's been 546 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: testing here since World War two, right, and you've got 547 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: kids growing up there who go on the lake. Now, 548 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: most of the testing, they say, occurs uh in the 549 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: deepest areas of the lake, kind of towards the center areas, 550 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: and at night when the surface wind speeds are at 551 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: their lowest. So most of the acoustic stuff, the boom, 552 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff is occurring in the water 553 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: at night when you know, maybe you're a kid down 554 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: by the dock, maybe you jumped in the water for 555 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: a second and you just hear them. You're just like, what, 556 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: pond It must be Pondi, man, that's scamp. I can 557 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: totally see that. He's got to be like Cecil from 558 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: the Beanie and Cecil Show, you know, like a friendly 559 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of goofball sea monster who has a little buddy 560 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: with with a beanie hat. You know that makes sense 561 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: to me. That checks out. I think we solve the 562 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: mystery of Pondi. Right. Here's the thing. We're doing this 563 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: because this is one of the most publicly acknowledged basis 564 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: of that type. But we don't know what else is 565 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: out there. And it turns out the United States is 566 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: not the only player in this strange underwater game. We'll 567 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: talk about some of those other players once we get 568 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: a quick word from our sponsor. So it is not 569 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: just the United States getting in on the underwater secret base, 570 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 1: or maybe not so secret base, just cool underwater base game. 571 00:35:51,600 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: We've also got China, China, China, Yes, the country of China, China, China, China. Uh, Like, 572 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: we're not making fun of anyone. It's just one of 573 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: those words that when you say it enough times, uh, 574 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: it starts to lose all meaning. And maybe we are 575 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: making fun of someone a little bit. That's the there's 576 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: a real term for that. It's called semantic satiation. Oh 577 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: suck the joy rat. How does that? I wanted to 578 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: be mystical you named then, I kid, But for real, 579 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: there's a base that China plans to build, and it's real. 580 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: This isn't made up. This is an actual thing with 581 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: a budget, with people like with with their outlines. There 582 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: are people working on this right now. It would be 583 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: located ten thousand feet below the ocean surface, and it's 584 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: going to search for valuable mineral deposits. And I'm sure 585 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: that's all it's going to do, even though it is 586 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: on the coast of the South China Sea, one of 587 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: the most heavily disputed areas in the world maritime speaking, 588 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: what are you implying then, that there's some ulterior motive 589 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: for this underwater clandestine facility? Dare I? Dare I imply such? 590 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: I think he's implaying. It's multifaceted. China claims fluid. It's 591 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: China claims severenity over this huge swath of ocean in 592 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: the area, and this causes multiple other countries in the 593 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: region no small amount of distress because they want to 594 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: be a regional hedgemon. And Vietnam is saying, well, hey, 595 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: we own part of this, and then the Philippines are saying, hey, 596 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: well we own part of that. Pretty much every other 597 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: country in the area is saying, calm down, you don't 598 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: own the entire sea. And they're saying, I don't want 599 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: to get too off topic here, but their argument is 600 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: that it is historically Chinese territory, based at least to 601 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: some degree on this document written by a fisherman a 602 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: long time ago, one to which none of those other countries, 603 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: by the way, agreed, And uh, you know, they're like, hey, 604 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: just like a fisherman, not like the head fisherman or 605 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: one one person. You know, I can dig up the 606 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: I can dig up some more on that if we 607 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: want to explore it. But the the problem here is, 608 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, as as we saw, they could say it's 609 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: a mineral scouting base all the livelong day, and people 610 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: are still going to treat it with the same skepticism 611 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: that you would treat a country saying we're refining nuclear 612 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: material just just for power purposes. We're not doing anything 613 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: else with it, we promise, even though the steps to 614 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: refine nuclear material for a power plant are indistinguishable for 615 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: a lot for let's just say, virtually indistinguishable from the 616 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: refinement needed to make a weapon. And we have a 617 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: quote here from uh the President of the People's Republic 618 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: of China, Shi Jim ping the deep sea contains treasures 619 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: that remain undiscovered and undeveloped. And in order to obtain 620 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: these treasures, we have to control key technologies in getting 621 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: into the deep sea, discovering the deep sea, and developing 622 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: the deep seam, gonna get that deep sea action? Man 623 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: was I was this speech writer paid by how many 624 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: times they used the phrase deep sea? I think? I 625 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: think perhaps? And we we also have a quote here 626 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: when we look at it from the U. S and 627 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: like our how is the United States viewing this from 628 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: a strategic standpoint? When you know, we talked when Ben's 629 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: mentioning all these uh different issues, they're going to come up, 630 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: you know in international politics. Uh So, a gentleman named 631 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: Brian Clark of the Washington Strategic and Budgetary Assessments says 632 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: having this kind of long term inhabited station has not 633 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: been attempted this deep, but it certainly is possible manned. 634 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: So mercibles have gone to these depths for almost fifty years. 635 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: The challenge is operating it for for months at a time, 636 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: which is the same thing we've been talking about this 637 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: whole time. Time and time again, time and undersea time again. Oh, 638 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: excuse me, deep sea time again. Just let it. They 639 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: want to control it, they want to get into it, 640 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: they want to discover it, and they want to develop it. 641 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: That's that's true. So how serious is this because we 642 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: know that over the decades, numerous militaries have proposed some 643 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: pretty cockamami stuff and with varying degrees of seriousness or intention. Well, 644 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: we know that, at least from the perspective of the PRC. 645 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: From China's perspective, this is a real thing that is happening. 646 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: It's part of the five year economic plan they were 647 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: released in March, and it's ranked as number two on 648 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: a list of the government's top one hundred science and 649 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: technology priorities. You can imagine if you could gain access 650 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: us too, you know, any kind of mineral deposits that 651 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: were before this point inaccessible, especially in large quantities, or 652 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: if you could get maybe some rare earth minerals down there, 653 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: maybe some stuff that's just been dormant for years and 654 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: years and years, centuries, millennia, that could be huge economically 655 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: for China. And let's go ahead and up the stakes further, 656 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: because it turns out that the Chinese government is already 657 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: operating and underground military base for naval forces. It's called 658 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: the Yulan Naval Base. It's built for nuclear submarines. It's 659 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: on the southern coast of Hainan Islands. And it's been 660 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: spooky thing is people outside of the Chinese government learned 661 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: about this because other governments intelligence agencies were reporting it. 662 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: China was just gonna probably let this one slide, dude. 663 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: According to the reconnaissance, this place, it's like caverns, right, 664 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: that's the idea of it's caverns where you can store 665 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: up to twenty nuclear subs and it's large enough to 666 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: accommodate there's a harbor, and the surface is large enough 667 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: to accommodate aircraft carriers too, which the government is actively building. 668 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't particularly care for it when 669 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: we hear alarmism about another country doing things that other 670 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: countries have been doing for a while. And I think 671 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of people can agree 672 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: when I say that. Oftentimes, at least in the US, 673 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: some things like this come up at just the right 674 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: moment to distract people from a different issue China. I 675 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: wish you guys could see Nold's face right now, because uh, 676 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: just like Matt's look around. Uh, you know, you dropped 677 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: in and injected and then lean that I was the 678 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: question he face. Emoji super producer Tristan communicates exclusively with 679 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: that emoji did we have We've mentioned that on the 680 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: air before, We've we've mentioned that his emoji game is 681 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: on point. Yet it is a point. Uh So we 682 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: we wanted to provide some examples of how this is 683 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: actually happening, why it would be important, and the secrecy 684 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: surrounding it, because at this point, as we record this, 685 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: we have to conclude that it may never be possible 686 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: to know exactly how many military installations exists across the surface, 687 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: much less under it, but it is almost entirely certain 688 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: that they are more on the way possibly being built now, 689 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 1: possibly with money from your taxes to pay on which 690 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: country you live in, and definitely without your knowledge. And 691 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: as you know, our space programs continue to prosper, especially 692 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: the private ones who are working with militaries. That moon 693 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: base is not far away, you guys, I think our 694 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 1: lifetimes moon base. I would totally live on a Moon base. 695 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: I would really. I don't know about you all, but 696 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm one of those people who if I got a 697 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: one way ticket to space and they're like, yeah, we're 698 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: just gonna shoot you off, can't come back, probably gonna 699 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: die on the ship, I would be all about it. 700 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: I just want to go to sample of that famous 701 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: moon cuisine. Yeah, so just a temporary like foodie trip. 702 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: Freeze freeze dried everything. Okay, yeah, it's not just ice 703 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 1: cream anymore. You had moon cheese? Oh no, I hear 704 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: Moon reefried beans are exquisite? Is that a thing? It 705 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: has to be? That it comes like it looks like 706 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: a rice crispy treat? Man, it's probably what it is. 707 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed when I 708 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: learned the truth about moon pies that they're just like 709 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: manufactory in Tennessee, just regular old factory pies. I was 710 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: not a clever child. They're just made of like palm oil. 711 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: So did the Navy ever actually pursue this concept, this 712 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: rock site concept at point Sir or elsewhere? We do 713 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: know there was one study that discussed the various methods 714 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: of sea floor excavation, but by that point, by the 715 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies in the US, most of that sort of 716 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: development was classified. So we don't know exactly what's happening 717 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: now on the ocean floor, but we do know it 718 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: remains the stuff they don't want you to know. Oh 719 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,720 Speaker 1: and on a positive note, of course, we'd be remiss 720 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: if we didn't mention their multiple non military efforts to 721 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: build sustainable underwater habitats. And I think it is for 722 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: pure research because it would be like living in space 723 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: in many ways, you know. So it's not every we're saying, 724 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: not every underwater installation is designed to secretly deploy submarines 725 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: and attack people exactly. Sometimes it's about what happens when 726 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 1: a bunch of people living deep underwater start stop being 727 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: nice and start being real. Have you seen the episode 728 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: of Planet Earth about the deep deep, deep deep, deep 729 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: deep deep ocean, the Byssil Plain and dude, Oh my god, 730 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: it's like a nightmare escape. Can you imagine open up 731 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: your window every morning and there's like an angler fish 732 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: out there, just like dangling. It's weird, little lure. Hey, hey, 733 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: it's the only reassuring thing about that part of the 734 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: planet is that, due to tremendous pressure, the vast majoriose 735 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: animals are so tiny. That's the only thing that makes 736 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: me feel safe if they if they were even a 737 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: foot longer, it would be too much lovecraft for me. 738 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: There's some big ones down there too, though, So shout 739 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: out to the Marine Lab underwater Laboratory. It's one of 740 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: the longest serving seafloor habitats in history. I think it 741 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: is the longest serving uh and that is in Key Largo, Florida. 742 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: It's been around since nineteen eight four. It's a training 743 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: center too, if you want to go, Yeah, that's that's 744 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: super cool. I think we also go there instead of 745 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: going to the underwater Hotel. Let's just go to the 746 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: Marine Lab. Let's do all of them. Okay, do you 747 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: want to go to the rock side because that sounds 748 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: like a dope party at the rock side. I just 749 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: gotta go to point sir, man. Also, it is a 750 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: dream of mine. I don't know if any of any 751 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: of you out there, friends and neighbors have ever done this, 752 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: but it's completely possible to travel by cargo ship shoot 753 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 1: the curl. That's what I was trying to remember, that 754 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: the term fo Oh my god, we're all over the place. 755 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: I love you guys. You're my friends. You might speaking 756 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: of our dearest friends. Though, holy cow, it's been a 757 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: minute since we've done I'm shot at corner. Our first 758 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: shout out today comes from Jacob. Jacob says, Hi, Matt Nolan, Ben, 759 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: I've been listening to your show for a while now. 760 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful way to help keep me sane while 761 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 1: working in the metal shop. Would like to know if 762 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: you know what we know and what we know we 763 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know about Area fifty one. Well, hey, we just 764 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: talked about that, Jacob. I think we got you covered. 765 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: I grew up in southern Nevada and lived there for 766 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: ten years. My dad was in the military, relatively high 767 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: ranking too, and still I heard almost nothing about it 768 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: other than one of my friends dad's worked there, but 769 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: couldn't say what he was doing. Also, if you read 770 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: this on air or on podcast Canned Air. I guess 771 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: could I get a birthday shout out for my very 772 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: special wife Kelsey? Guess what? Kelsey down? Now bound down 773 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: the shoutouts for you, Kelsey. Happy birthday, Kelsey, and thanks 774 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: for writing to us, Jacob. We do have We do 775 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: have some other I think we talked about Area fifty 776 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: one and some earlier episodes to It continually comes up, 777 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: and we have some videos about it on YouTube that 778 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: we definitely recommend you check out. Next, we've got one 779 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: from Helen. She's says, hey, guys, I just wanted to 780 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: say you're awesome. Thanks Helen. We think you're awesome too. 781 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: I have never been much into conspiracy, but I've enjoyed 782 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: learning from you all. I respect very deeply that you 783 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: start with the facts and then and they say that 784 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: with quotes, quote fingers, and then talk about your own opinions. 785 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: The sign of a great intellectual is that he can 786 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: present facts and opinions as separate. I have been so 787 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: inspired by or work and look forward to every episode. 788 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: I live in Athens. I don't know if you travel 789 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: up that way much, but I always have a free 790 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 1: place to stay. Oh man, Helen, that was so nicely. 791 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of embarrassed that I was the one to 792 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: read it. I'm I'm blushing all over and uh. I 793 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: love Athens and I think these guys do too. I 794 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: lived there for a little while and uh and and 795 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: miss it very much. So yeah, well my question is, 796 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: wait this this email goes on right? What is she 797 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: buttering us up for something? Oh? Man, you're right, Ben, 798 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: there there is more. Um. I was so enraptured by 799 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: the compliments being lavished upon us that I didn't even 800 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: notice that there was a point to all this. Um. 801 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to request a shout out forever since 802 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: you first started them. Yes, I'm listening that long awesome UM, 803 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: but wanted to have a show idea to include. Now 804 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: I have too one. The hollow Moon. We were just 805 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: talking about moon cuisine. Uh, spaceship. I just heard this 806 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: theory on the History Channel. Is the moon hollow? And 807 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: is it a spaceship? Was it a spaceship an ancient 808 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: relic of an extraterrestrial Yeah? Did humans get here on 809 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: the moon? I'm going to say, no, Well we should 810 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: look into it. Okay, I guess we can do that, Matt. 811 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: The moon is relatively unexplored. There's that that's very true. 812 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: So it's possible that there are things. It's certain that 813 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: there are things there that we are not yet aware of. 814 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: It is a very tall, milk shaped to sip to 815 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: think that it could be a wreck of a spacecraft, right, 816 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: So that almost be implying I see what you're saying. 817 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: If it's all I was thinking like you SAIDs I mean, 818 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: it's like a prop or something that's sort of like 819 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: it's like a piece of space scenery. So yeah, I 820 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: mean I think it's definitely worth looking into. I didn't 821 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: know that the History Channel was looking at that stuff. Yeah, 822 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: ancient aliens. Oh that's right. Okay, well we will. We 823 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: will dig in and see if we can give it 824 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: to go. Let's see what's out there, because I'd also 825 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: be interested in finding out just what what we suspect 826 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: is on the Moon but hasn't been discovered yet. You 827 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: should check out our sister podcast, Stuff You Miss in 828 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: Histories two part episode on the Great Moon Hoax, because 829 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: if you want some some Moon tomfoolery, there's some good 830 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: stuff in there, all kinds of wacky ideas that people 831 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: had in their heads about what was on the Moon, 832 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: So check those out from Holly and Tracy Um and 833 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: then Helen goes on to have a second idea, GMOs, 834 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: there's been all sorts of experiments proving they're terrible for you. 835 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 1: What's up with that genetically modified organisms proving that's okay. 836 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: I I'm interested in that because I don't well, yeah, yeah, 837 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: I have. I am not personally familiar with a lot 838 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 1: of studies or experiments pertaining to this. On a personal level, 839 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: I I will say that I don't see anything wrong 840 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: with labeling a food product labeling food is containing GMOs. 841 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: I completely don't see why somebody would have a bug 842 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: on their bubb kiss about it. But uh, the idea 843 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: of the studies we we would really need to look 844 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: into those to do an episode on it. The only 845 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: issue I can see are plants that are specifically modified 846 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: to withstand certain pesticides or insecticides. I can only imagine 847 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: that that's the only place that I would be worried, 848 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 1: like even at all about genetically modified or the issues 849 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: that how I could cause, um like superbugs and stuff 850 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 1: that I make that up. No, that's a that's a 851 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: good point because we know with large scale agriculture or 852 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: agri business. We know there's been a trend towards homogeneous, 853 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: uhlogenious agricultural products like you, it's very real possibility that, 854 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: as we're recording this, and if you're listening to this now, 855 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,280 Speaker 1: the banana as we know it may be extinct within 856 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 1: our lifetimes because it's essentially just a thing that has 857 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 1: been cloned. And this won't be the first time that 858 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: humanity lost the most popular banana, which is why banana 859 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: flavored candy tastes different in comparison to the modern banana 860 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: Cavendish the gross Michelle. The last thing Helen says is 861 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,360 Speaker 1: that she has a book on the subject called Altered 862 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: Genes Twisted Truths, and she says she wait. She says 863 00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: she'd love for us to have it and dropped by 864 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: studio if we wanted it. So please shout me out 865 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: so much love, so thanks so much, Helen, and you know, 866 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: shoot us an email, maybe we can we can arrange 867 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: a visit. The next shout out goes to Samuel h. 868 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: He wrote us an email. He says, Hello, I'm an 869 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: artist and I want to send a gift to you 870 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,919 Speaker 1: guys that I think you may appreciate. But I don't 871 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,959 Speaker 1: know who are how to address it so that Matt 872 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: and Benn and Noll and Paul will receive it. Can 873 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: you please tell me what address to send it to. 874 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: Thank you well, first of all, Samuel as an artist, 875 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: Good on you, sir. Uh. It is not easy to 876 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,240 Speaker 1: do that. I hope you have some kind of uh 877 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: in flow of money from the art that you create. 878 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 1: And if not, I hope you are doing something else 879 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: fulfilling in your life. That is, you know, letting you 880 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: pay rent. God, you're a good guy. Matt. Uh Well, okay, Well, 881 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, it's cool that you're creating art, 882 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: and especially that you want to send it to us. 883 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: Our address is everybody write this down. If you are 884 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: not scary and you don't want to hurt us, please 885 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 1: write this down. Definitely, no Uni bombers. I'm okay with 886 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: the scary scary male right up my alley. I just 887 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: bring that up because I started watching the man Hunt series. Yeah, 888 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: it's very very good. Well, um, if you're on a 889 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,240 Speaker 1: man hunt for Ben and mad and Noel, uh, here's 890 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: where you go. It's six seven five Ponce de Leon Avenue, 891 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: Northeast Sweet. That's Atlanta, Georgia, three zero three oh eight 892 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: and seriously, no creepers. We've got like top notch security 893 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,959 Speaker 1: here so you will not make it past the front door. 894 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: We've got attack dogs, the sentry guns are on locks. 895 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: They're big time. But also hope that we will come back. 896 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't come back to bite us. And 897 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: this concludes our but not our show. As always, thank 898 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: you so much for tuning in. You are the most 899 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: important part of every episode we do, which means that 900 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. Do you have military experience? 901 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: Have you lived on a submarine? If so, what do 902 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: you think about the idea of people spending extended amounts 903 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: of time under water? And we say extended, we mean years. 904 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: Do you live on a yellow submarine? Have you been 905 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: to an octopus's garden in the shade? Have you seen 906 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,760 Speaker 1: blue meanings about? If so, please contact the authorities first, 907 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: then us. And if you have not found some meanings 908 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 1: blue or otherwise, or been on a submarine yellow or otherwise. 909 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: But you have a suggestion for our show, a topic 910 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: you feel that your fellow listeners would like to hear 911 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: in the future, please let us know. You can find 912 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: Matt Noel and I on Instagram. You can find us 913 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: on our website stuff they don't want you to know. 914 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook, where we post a 915 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: lot of stories that for some reason or another don't 916 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: make it to the air. 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