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Speaker 1: finally happened, my manifesting, my dreams have come true. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of them has come true. As you guys know,

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Speaker 1: we regularly write down lists of things that we love

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Speaker 1: I am a fan of, have been an exclusive user

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's happened, and you're excited.

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Speaker 1: Samsung is a I know my dreams are you know,

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Speaker 1: my dreams are real, manageable. They're not like I'm not asking.

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Speaker 2: By APM.

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Speaker 3: With your Samsung phone.

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Speaker 1: Slowly mindlessly, Well, nobody talks to me, just leaving me alone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it. I always have just sang

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Speaker 1: the praises of my Samsung phone. Every time I've ever

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Speaker 1: taken a picture in any setting, people always says, are incredible.

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Speaker 1: It was my favorite thing that on tour. Two things

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Speaker 1: meet and greets, we usually get you know, someone turns

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Speaker 4: It's starting with Actually Jensen was because you remember like

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Speaker 3: He was saying the photos.

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Speaker 5: I just kept seeing his face go.

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Speaker 3: And you explained it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The second thing that happened was one night I said,

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Speaker 1: I was able to get every single person in there.

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Speaker 1: And now with the new Samsung Galaxy S twenty five Ultra,

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Speaker 6: I remember that night a little differently. I remember you saying, hey, Will,

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Speaker 2: And I in the entire audience.

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Speaker 6: But it's nice that you thought I was in that

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Speaker 1: now at Samsung dot Com. There are very few crew

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Speaker 1: members we have said more times over the first five

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Speaker 1: seasons of recaps than Mark Blutman and Howard Buskang, a

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Speaker 1: and yet these two humans somehow made it happen and

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Speaker 1: do what I meant to say, This little piggy Happiest

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Speaker 5: Howard wrote, you said, Who's afraid of Corey Wolf?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's surprise winning.

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Speaker 5: It's great film to Romeo.

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Speaker 6: Bible Communist Manifesto, some great stuff.

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Speaker 2: By by mouth say tong and Howard bust Gang.

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Speaker 3: That would be.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me do that again.

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Speaker 5: I think we got it.

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Speaker 4: War.

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Speaker 1: I can say this with all the confidence in the world.

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Speaker 1: Boy Meets World is not the show you love without

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Speaker 1: the contributions of this writer. Welcome to the podcast. One

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Speaker 1: of the two most prolific thick writers in Boy Meets

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Speaker 1: World history. It's Howard bust Gang. Yeah there you are lost,

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Speaker 1: You there you are guys. Did you see that? Did

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Speaker 5: The cool glasses?

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Speaker 3: The I am so much cooler now than when you

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Speaker 1: Wow, I know we we have talked about. This is

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Speaker 6: Man's something that our lives are so different than they

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Speaker 2: We were all like, he's got the whole apart glass.

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Speaker 1: That's what were you about, night Grab I'm in. It

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Speaker 1: is such a treat to see you again, Howard. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being here.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me. I'm so excited to

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Speaker 1: It's a very honored position.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know listen and if I was you,

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Speaker 3: totally get it. I think Craft Service needed to be

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Speaker 2: Oh, we had more interaction with Craft Service.

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Speaker 3: Than I'm with you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to know Craig better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I do want to start with one question,

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Speaker 3: Well, that's great, it's it's uh. First of all, this

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Speaker 3: be honest, I don't really live in the like I

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Speaker 1: Mark, Yeah, ten minutes, Okay, it's great smart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've gotten to Uh. I didn't even realize

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Speaker 2: Yes I should, I was.

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Speaker 1: Yes, unbelievable, more than any other writers on On Boy

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Speaker 6: Deep dive of all your episodes with the Craft Service guy.

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Speaker 6: a Canadian sitcom? Is a Canadian sitcom just much more polite?

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Speaker 3: Much more polite? Yeah? You camera say we have no conflict,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you know where this is going. So I

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Speaker 3: But the best one I which was actually the most heartfelt.

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Speaker 5: Oh please, you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they don't. They just they don't die.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't know. Mark would Mark, Mark would

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Speaker 2: He lives ten minutes in the past. Yeah, well yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I think he knew someone at at at

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Speaker 1: Right. I'm assuming you didn't tell him the story about

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Speaker 8: Drop now, Okay, Now, if memory serves, Mark told us

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Speaker 3: Perhaps he was offered the show so he kindly turned

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Speaker 1: Right, you wanted to be a partner.

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Speaker 3: That's a nice thing.

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Speaker 1: That's total okay. So what then when you get your

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Speaker 1: First of all, what was that meeting? Like, Michael seemed

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Speaker 3: It was very positive? In fact, I think again, I

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Speaker 3: It was Bob Young was there, Michael was there, and

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Speaker 3: I remember the one thing I remember he said, you

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Speaker 1: Give me addiction?

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Speaker 3: Give me addiction here?

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Speaker 5: But you don't you could just do it.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're going for a writing job. You don't

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Speaker 3: really want to say, right, I don't.

446
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Speaker 1: Know what that means.

447
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: No, it was no in so many respects. I mean,

448
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: it was obviously a dream come true and it remains

449
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: to this day, which which a dream come true, which

450
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: I can you know, it's coming back into my life

451
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: in many ways because of what I'm doing now and

452
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: the people. Should I just jump in to tell you

453
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Speaker 3: why it's come into my life? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Please?

455
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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

457
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So you know I'm eight years ago I

458
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 3: moved away from Los Angeles. So I moved to a

459
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Speaker 3: small island to British Columbia, Okay, called Salt Spring, and

460
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Speaker 3: I still write. And my wife and I were looking around.

461
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Speaker 3: We didn't really have a plan, and we saw a

462
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Speaker 3: little shop that was available for a tiny little place,

463
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Speaker 3: and she said, why don't we open a little deli here?

464
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Speaker 3: And if it doesn't work, you'll have an office to

465
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Speaker 3: write in. So we opened a place called Buzzies.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's a Montreal Jewish delhi on an island

468
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Speaker 3: with more Bears than Jews.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how's it going?

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Speaker 3: No, it's truly. I'm blessed. I'm blessed because we've become

471
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: this destination because people go why, like they just cannot

472
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Speaker 3: believe we're here, right, you know we do. I'm probably

473
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Speaker 3: one of a few restaurantors who had their menu punched up.

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Speaker 3: I had writers come in, we punched up the menu.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have said, can we beat roast beef?

476
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Speaker 3: You know, we have sandwiches like we I make my

477
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: own my trust smoke meat, which is a version of Pistromi.

478
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Speaker 3: It's so our sandwiches. You know. We have the Hungry

479
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: jew we have the the the room the Rubens called

480
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: the Rabinowitz. So but but here's the beautiful thing about it.

481
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: I have you know, it's a good place to put

482
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Speaker 3: stuff that my wife doesn't want in the house. So

483
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Speaker 3: I got Boy Meets World signs, a few things over

484
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: and this is what amazing? What's it just? It's a

485
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: beautiful thing. I cannot believe how many people come in

486
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 3: and they look around, they look at the sign, they go,

487
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: boy meets World, what what did you do? And I

488
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: you'll work on the ship. And they tell me this

489
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: was not only their favorite show, they tell me how

490
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 3: important it was to them growing up. Yeah, I mean this, No,

491
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: this happens every day like it's truly. I didn't realize

492
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Speaker 3: at the time. You know, we're making a show.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, none of us, none of us us. So we

494
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Speaker 1: know you're telling the truth because we experience it every

495
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Speaker 1: day as.

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Speaker 3: Well, every day, right, and it's just beautiful. And I

497
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Speaker 3: had one of my favorite lines from the show is

498
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Speaker 3: that I put in every script I've ever written ever

499
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 3: was Matt wrote a line called which you know, I'm

500
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Speaker 3: sure life's tough wear a helmet, which I love, and

501
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Speaker 3: I would put that. I would with his permission, Matt,

502
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: the writer, I would put I'd say, I got to

503
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Speaker 3: put this line in the show. So I had someone

504
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 3: bring me in a poster they made that said Life's tough,

505
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: where life's tough, eat a lutka. Yeah, I have that

506
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Speaker 3: at the show up somebody, I'm sure you get this. Also,

507
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: somebody just texted me a picture of them and their

508
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Speaker 3: and their cat, George Feeney.

509
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Speaker 5: Oh you know that's great. I love that.

510
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a lot of dogs named Topanga.

511
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 6: We got a lot of babies named to Panga, cats

512
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 6: named Feoenie.

513
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Speaker 2: We get we we hear some some strange stuff.

514
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

515
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's uh, it's it's a gift that just

516
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 3: keeps on giving. It's really true. So kudos to all

517
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: of us. Little pat on the back.

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00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, absolutely, that's so great. Well, you know we

519
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: need to plan a trip to go visit you. A modern.

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Speaker 2: Rub sandwich is my favorite sandwichever.

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00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 6: Look at Suzy, I gotta try your ruben because.

522
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: He's got tiny he's got a tiny little yamaka on

523
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: the top. Just you know, we still live on island.

524
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Speaker 3: I didn't want them to row me out and throw

525
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Speaker 3: me off the island.

526
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Speaker 2: So how far are you from Vancouver Island.

527
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Speaker 3: We're an hour and a half by ferry from vancous In,

528
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: thirty minutes from Victoria.

529
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're in an island, right.

530
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Speaker 3: Run an island island and you can find us at

531
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Speaker 3: Buzzies dot Ca.

532
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all it, Buzzies dot Ca. Okay, great, I

533
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: can't wait to go. So when you start on Boy

534
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: Meets World in season two, did you catch up by

535
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: watching season one, and if so, what were your thoughts

536
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: of the first season.

537
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course we watched the show and I

538
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: think Mark talked about this it for us and this

539
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: was terrible time. It felt younger than what we were

540
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: used to writing. Yeah, yeah, it felt it felt younger

541
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: and I I feel like part of our job and

542
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: I think he may have talked about it was to

543
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: uh was to I don't know words age up the show.

544
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if I like that word, but I

545
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: will say watching the episodes of season two now like

546
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: watching what we did, I I the it didn't feel

547
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: young to me, like it felt the time, the character,

548
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: everything felt right for the time and the place. So

549
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if we were there to

550
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 3: I hate to say the word be funny, but uh,

551
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: I I listen. I was watching it detached, but as

552
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: a fan now and I just got a big kick

553
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: out of it. I can't wait to show my kids

554
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: who have not watched my career. So kids, if you're listening,

555
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: it's hurtful.

556
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: It's time.

557
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: It's time. Yeah, you can also find your dad at

558
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Speaker 2: Buzzies dot C.

559
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: Please call, please call.

560
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: Well, we always need someone on the meat slicer.

561
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Speaker 6: So you know you kidding? You put me in a deli?

562
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 6: I am all my life, I've all. I want a

563
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Speaker 6: sandwich named after me. Eventually, I want one that that lasts,

564
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 6: that's named after me, the Fredell, the Freedole, whatever, the

565
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 6: Wilfrid's or something film Freedole.

566
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: But I need a sandwich named after me. It's kind

567
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: of what I'm I'm I'm going for.

568
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: You're talking to the right guy.

569
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me get my team to punch that up.

570
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

571
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, please please do. I love that.

572
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 6: And I don't know what's in the sandwich. But there's

573
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Speaker 6: got to be ham. That's all I can.

574
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Say, because it's got to eat the scenery, my friend.

575
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 5: That's right.

576
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: And a Jewish deli.

577
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Speaker 6: Okay, but listen and bacon bacon wrapped ham at a

578
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Speaker 6: Jewish telli.

579
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Speaker 3: It okay?

580
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Speaker 2: Damn you joined.

581
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Speaker 1: Season two Boy Meets World was kind of right after

582
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Speaker 1: a big shake up creatively, as April Kelly left after

583
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Speaker 1: season one and her team and they didn't return for

584
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Speaker 1: season two. Was there any talk of that at all?

585
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Did you. Were you aware of any of that going

586
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: into season two or not at all?

587
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Speaker 3: Uh? All I know is I kept asking whose April?

588
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 5: Did you?

589
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

590
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 6: She was?

591
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: No. I know you're wondering, who's this April? And it's

592
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: like the person whose name she'll not be spoken. I

593
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: have nothing, no, no one ever who's April. Why isn't

594
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: she here? So I you know, I'm sure she's a fabulous, creative,

595
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: wonderful human being. I have no I've never met her.

596
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't know anything, right, and no one would tell

597
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: you who she was.

598
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: Ill that's the story I'm sticking to. I don't know. Yeah, no,

599
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: no one they she just left. I don't know under

600
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: what circumstances. I really don't know.

601
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember your first impressions of us?

602
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: Uh? Well, you know, I think I think that it's

603
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: funny because now even now, you know, I say the kids, right,

604
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: I talked about you, and clearly you've grown up and

605
00:31:51,680 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: I've grown down so well. Obviously very impressed. But I

606
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: think at the time, again, this was such a learning

607
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: experience for me and being on a real show, you know,

608
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: a big American sitcom I had. I think that a

609
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: little bit of a Canadian inferiority complex, and I'm sure,

610
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: I know, I'm sure I was more scared of you

611
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: than you were to me. Like bears like bears, Hans, Buzzies,

612
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Speaker 3: dot Ca. I was just in total awe of the

613
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: whole thing, and I and you know, occasionally overwhelmed by

614
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: it because it all moves so fast. It all was

615
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: happening so fast, and I'm a little slow and laborious sometimes.

616
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: But where I love to be was. I just loved

617
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: being in the writer's room. I wasn't so much somebody

618
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 3: who loved the stage as much because it's hard for

619
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: me to work that fast and figure out now, don't

620
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: this do this? That wasn't that guy. So I've just

621
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: loved it being in that room. That was my safe space.

622
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Speaker 6: When when you came to the show, did you come

623
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 6: to a show that was in transition or did you

624
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 6: come to a show and help with the transition?

625
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: Was it kind of?

626
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 6: Because we noticed such a big changes from season one

627
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 6: to season two, especially when we go back and watch

628
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 6: them now after we're now up to about to start

629
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 6: season six, you know, Lee Norris is no longer. There

630
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 6: were clearly going into high school. There was obviously some

631
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 6: kind of of order from somewhere that they wanted to

632
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 6: age the show up. Was that something that you and

633
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 6: Mark were responsible for or did you kind of come

634
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 6: into it as it was happening.

635
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: Well, I don't want I hate these all responsible. It

636
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: sounds because it's such a team effort. But I'd like

637
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: to think that we were integral part of that discussion.

638
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: You know, we certainly involved in that discussion, and so

639
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: I know that we I know there was there certainly

640
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: was that conscious effort. Listen, you were you The fact

641
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: is you were getting older every year, So every year

642
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: there's a transition to be made. Yeah, right, And and

643
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: that's interesting to watch even even now as you go

644
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: back on the episodes, if you're if if you're uh

645
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: binging them and you start watching a Mike season season

646
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 3: three and then season four and all of a sudden,

647
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: you know, someone's got a beard like it's it's you know,

648
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: it's really interesting to watch. And every year was handled,

649
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: you know, very delicately. What are we going to do?

650
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: These questions were always asked, So I think we were

651
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: we were in an integral part of it. And uh

652
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: and it was a great amazing you know, it's a

653
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: great learning experience. I lot. I obviously, uh learned so

654
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: much from that show. And uh, but I was not.

655
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: I was not the guy who was great on the floor.

656
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: You know, m hm and Mike would say, you know,

657
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: when we'd shoot and Mike would say, we need a line,

658
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 3: we need a line, we'd all just kind of yell lines.

659
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: It it's you know, it's it's it's It's a very

660
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: intimidating experience because you're still desperately want to, you know,

661
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: get in there.

662
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 5: You know, Wow, I jump in on that.

663
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 4: I want to know, do you have a favorite line

664
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: that you pitched, whether it made it to the show

665
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: or not. Do you have a favorite a.

666
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 5: Moment where you're you're most proud of throwing something out?

667
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: Well, okay, you know, I'm sure other writers have told you.

668
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: You know, we don't like to talk about what lines

669
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: that we came up with, but I will tell you

670
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: things that still make me laugh and I go, oh

671
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: my god, that was mine. And this is not a

672
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: great line. It's not a great mine at all. But

673
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: I was watching the episode where Will is trying to

674
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: win publisher's clearinghouse. Yeah, oh yeah, they're still laughing at it.

675
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: And you know, you pull out the magazine. This is

676
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: not the best line in the show by any means,

677
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 3: but I just loved it because I remember pitching it.

678
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: It's the magazine when you got to seize. It's the

679
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: magazine Chester for people named Chester. And I actually have

680
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: that magazine at home to keep it.

681
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: I've got to keep it.

682
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: You know.

683
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: It's so dumb, so right, but it's just I can't

684
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 3: help but smiles, so stupid, and which will delivered brilliantly.

685
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.

686
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 6: So another question I have, I think we all have,

687
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 6: because we've noticed in some seasons it clearly seems like

688
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 6: before the season started there was an arc of where

689
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 6: the season was going to go. You could clearly see

690
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 6: what was going to happen. Okay, we're starting here, we're

691
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 6: ending here. As we're getting a little bit later in

692
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 6: the season, it seems a little less like maybe there

693
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 6: was an overall plan. Did you always write at the

694
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 6: beginning before we even got there, before the you know,

695
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 6: our first script was put in our hand. Did you

696
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 6: all sit down and and arc out an entire season.

697
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 6: Here'shere we're going to start, here's what we're going to end,

698
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 6: and here's how we're going to get to that point

699
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 6: or was it more just we by week?

700
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: So this is a this is a situation. It's like

701
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: the best laid plans of mice and men, right, you know,

702
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: you would you would argue, you would see how the

703
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: season would go. But as you all know, by you know,

704
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: episode nineteen or something, you know, we're just so struggling

705
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: just to stay awake and survive and get through and

706
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: that we need a script tomorrow. And so that's that's

707
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: and that's no one's fault. It's just the nature of

708
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: the beast. So that's what what wiy. Things can get

709
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: a little messy at the end because you just just

710
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: don't have the time to do it. Yeah, right, Yeah,

711
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: it's just you know, it's nature. And listen, I'm just

712
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 3: shocked that we anyone's able to do this. I can't

713
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: imagine the old days when they did what thirty nine

714
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 3: episodes off a show, like really old days. So yeah,

715
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: we just some you know, by the end, we were

716
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: just just just struggling to just get to you know,

717
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: get get those scripts out. So I I I think,

718
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: you know, best intentions sometimes, Yeah.

719
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: Well you had five episodes in season two. Who's afraid

720
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: of Corey? Wolfe band on the Run. Breaking up is

721
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: really really hard to do on the air, and the

722
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: thrilla in Philla band on the Run was a favorite

723
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: one of ours to talk about. Do you remember the

724
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: background on this episode at all? Like it had a

725
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: slew of rock stars, Mickey Dolans, Ricky Nielsen, Billy Vera, Like,

726
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: how did this idea for you? How did the script

727
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: idea come to you? Was it you and Blutman or

728
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: was it handed to you?

729
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: I hate to tell you this, I actually don't do

730
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: not remember how that one came. But we can make

731
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: something up.

732
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Let's make sense, sure, whatever you want, Let's make something up.

733
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: I know, I you know, I don't. I don't recall

734
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: how that that one came, how that came about. And

735
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: it's funny again watching watching them and I'm seeing these

736
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 3: moments and suddenly they they come alive to me again,

737
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: like yet back there, you know, And I you know,

738
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: I think Mark talked about this and I think it's

739
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: Breaking up is really really hard to do. Yeah, watching

740
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: uh like Rider and Ben play their ninety year old.

741
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: Selves so fun.

742
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna like I mean that, Actually, you know,

743
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't look back like I said a lot.

744
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: I had a big smile from grint Eardia and you

745
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: guys were so funny. It was so funny, and I

746
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: I just I was very yeah, like I said, I

747
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: walked away going, Okay, that's not that's that wasn't that's

748
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: not too horrible. This is really good. It's beautiful.

749
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: It was great.

750
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 6: It was great.

751
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know that's where we

752
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: brought ourselves. Like again, you know, I know how we wrote.

753
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: You know that that scene feels very authentic to who

754
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: I am, but stealing the roles.

755
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: But well that's okay.

756
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 6: So that's a good question then, because one thing I

757
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 6: remember is anytime, I well most of the time, when

758
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 6: we got a script that we saw your names on,

759
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 6: I knew it was probably gonna be a Corey Sean

760
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 6: Buddy episode. Yeah, so which which one between you and Bluckman?

761
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: Which one was Corey and which one was Sean?

762
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: Uh? I will tell you this between Okay, I don't

763
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: know that we did. We we were each that character.

764
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: I think we you know, you write, you kind of

765
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: tend to write in your own voice for both, and

766
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: then the actor kind of finds puts their voice on it. Yeah,

767
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: I will say for for you, Will, I felt that

768
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: I had the Will character.

769
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you were Eric. Oh that's great.

770
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt I had the Eric character down, and

771
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: I you know, everybody was so great. But I used

772
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 3: to say, you know, Eric is our uh well, Will

773
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: is our Tom Hanks, and that you will give you

774
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: and sometimes overboard. We went overboard a little bit occasionally.

775
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: But what I loved is that you would commit to

776
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: it no matter what mm hmmm, and just you would.

777
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: You would do it, even if you hated it, you

778
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: would do it. And for for us that that just

779
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: meant the world. That just just I love that. And

780
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 3: you know that sweet thank you something sweet to you?

781
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: You did you did?

782
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: You called them Tom Hanks?

783
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean, my god, Yeah.

784
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll find a way to take it back, don't

785
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: we can.

786
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: Well, you'll you'll make my sandwich and you'll call it

787
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: the Tom Hanks. That'll that'll get it.

788
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not and there's no bacon, there's.

789
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 6: No happen It is a very sandwich called sandwich.

790
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: And I'm kind of offended that you actually.

791
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 6: So.

792
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Then in season three, you somehow have five more scripts,

793
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: including the iconic Happiest Show on Earth which shot at

794
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: Disney World, and we noticed you and Mark in line

795
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: as a cameo. What was your memory of taping in

796
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Orlando like that week?

797
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: Uh? Tough, yeah, okay, yeah, no, only because of where

798
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: you're shooting, and you know, you think you're going on

799
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: a vacation.

800
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're all excited.

801
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm going on vacation. How much fun is this? And

802
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: then you get there crowds and you have you have

803
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 3: characters and uh so it's it's it just my memory

804
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: is really just it was. It was a challenge and

805
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: I actually I hope the episode turned out. I'm not

806
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: that familiar. I have watched it. Did it turn out? Okay?

807
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not.

808
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: We're not all on the same page. You know.

809
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: What we talked about was that it felt like it

810
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: needed to be two episodes. The idea of of Topanga

811
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: winning this trip and there being a guy the and

812
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: Corey being jealous and then the girl interfering, all of

813
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: it felt like it could have used a two parter,

814
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: especially because it's such a big thing to go to Florida.

815
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: But we understand. Of course, it was one night where

816
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: all the shows did an episode where they were taking

817
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: place in Florida, and so you know, it felt like

818
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: a lot of story for our show to fit into

819
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: one episode. But of course we understand why it had

820
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: that constraint of it needing to be one episode. But

821
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: so it turned out well. Like as far as getting

822
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: the shots, the shots are all great. I mean, Jeff

823
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: McCracken was incredible that we also felt like there was

824
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: an opportunity to use more of the park, but.

825
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: Instead of just the dolphin, behind the scenes of the dolphins,

826
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: the dolphins.

827
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: Anywhere anywhere. Okay, so you're saying I could put it

828
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: on my reel, It's okay, I would, Yes.

829
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: I would.

830
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: Okay, good.

831
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: In season four, you wrote a real sleeper hit for us,

832
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: one of our less predict to Bowl favorites, B and

833
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: B's B and B.

834
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: I love that about it. Tell me you didn't take over.

835
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: pH didn't get there this house, remember, I remember so much,

836
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: but I remember moments, but oh my god.

837
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: He's leaving and he asks Corey to water the plants,

838
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: and Sean steals the key and takes over. He needs

839
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: to make money and so he we You guys, they

840
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: hatched this plan of using Phoene's house like a B

841
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: and B and it's so good. It's really, it's really

842
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: it was a really great episode that we enjoyed. We

843
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: enjoyed many moments in it.

844
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: That's what Lenn Lesser was in this one from Seinfeld.

845
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: He was remember.

846
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's singing and all that kind of ya.

847
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: Can't I actually can't wait to watch that.

848
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 5: You should.

849
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 6: This is sad when we're the ones who remember stuff,

850
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 6: by the way, because we just watched it, you know,

851
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 6: a year on this, because this is episode and fifty six.

852
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: You know, the craft service guy could probably talk about

853
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 3: Greg remembered this right away. Greg was great in this stuff.

854
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: I love that. What was Eric doing in that episode

855
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: in B and B?

856
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: What is the one?

857
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: What was he was overshadowed by the great A story?

858
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Is what he was doing. I don't remember what Eric was.

859
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 6: Doing in B and B's B and B and we

860
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 6: meet people yelling at their their radios right now because

861
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 6: they remember, but we don't.

862
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: We'll google.

863
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 6: But something not as funny as the A story because

864
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 6: the A story was hysterically funny.

865
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: And again that's when you go to Boston with Phoenie

866
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 4: B story, that's great B story to where Eric's about

867
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: to get.

868
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: You guys become friends friends. Yeah, is that the one

869
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: where you eat dinner twice or Phoenie eats dinner twice?

870
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: Phner different?

871
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 6: And then and then he blocks Eric with the with

872
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 6: the bartender, right, and which is inappropriate to begin with?

873
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: Honesty?

874
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 6: He was you know, yeah, she knew he was too

875
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 6: young to serve him alcohol, but apparently not too young

876
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 6: to take him home.

877
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: Uh so, yeah, it was in it was. It was

878
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: a great episode though, and it was one.

879
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: Out of it. I'm so proud of it. I just

880
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 3: loved that episode.

881
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: Watch it, Watch it. You're gonna You're gonna enjoy it.

882
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: Another Sean Corey caper that was that was you saw.

883
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: I just love those capers like I just love you know,

884
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: I love the again. Did you talked about band on

885
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: the run or on the air? I just love I

886
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 3: I I we love the caper. We love putting guys

887
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: in situations that were totally above your head. Yeah.

888
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, looking at your list of episodes, you guys

889
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: tackled very high concepts. There was never kind of like

890
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: Corey and t Banga just get into a fight. You

891
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: have to, and then we have to deal with the consequences.

892
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Like it was. Corey thinks he's a werewolf. The boys

893
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: get a pig, the show travels to Disney World, Shawn's

894
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: ex girlfriends kidnap him and plan on killing him in revenge.

895
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: You guys really take some big swings.

896
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you gotta be careful because you know,

897
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm married. I'm not used to compliments.

898
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: So she didn't say they were good. She said you took.

899
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

900
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, also married.

901
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: Did anyone ever talk about, by the way, the Boy

902
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: meets World Baseball Team?

903
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, please please.

904
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: Daniel's dad, My dad, dad was on it. Yeah, was

905
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: a right, that's what I remember. Your dad was like, you.

906
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 6: Would get the ball and it was scary, the frozen

907
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 6: rope from the warning What shows did you guys play?

908
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: Improvement was the was the final? I remember because I

909
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: was there. You're there, so yeah, I.

910
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: Only mention it because I talked about the camaraderie of

911
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: the room. The baseball team was just a pit like

912
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: for us. This was more fun and brought us together

913
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: in the best way possible because we called ourselves the

914
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: bad news bears, right, half of us, didn't half of them.

915
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: I could say I could they They they looked at me.

916
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: I wasn't ahead, and there was no expectation that I

917
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: could play or hit. So when I did, you were yeah,

918
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: they were all like, oh my, like it was.

919
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: Just that good job, good job, good job, honey.

920
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And they were people who couldn't hit or

921
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, and then there was the regards like like

922
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: Mark or Matt, who were exceptional and always upset about

923
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: the people who couldn't pitch or hit or do anything.

924
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 3: But we called the bad News Bears. We had no uniforms.

925
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: We played. We played Frasier, yeah, and Home Improvement, and

926
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 3: they were all in beautiful you know, they had to spend.

927
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: I mean they came out, you know, there was there

928
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: was music playing when they came out, you know.

929
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 5: So we were just like the scrappy.

930
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: We were challenging the Scrappy's. And somehow, and Barry Safchick

931
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: was our manager.

932
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: Barry was Walter Mathow.

933
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: Barry was Walton Matho and we get, you know, we

934
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: get those those speeches, you know, how we're going to

935
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: do this game, and somehow we just kept winning, right

936
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 3: and after every game they put on a newsletter about

937
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: how everyone did you know, and somehow we just we

938
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: just kept on winning and winning, and those days were

939
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: so much fun. And then we went to the finals

940
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: and UH played Home Improvement, playing for the fight. It

941
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: was like we were playing, you know, for the World Series.

942
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: It was so important to us, and I was I

943
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: remember one time in that last game and they put me.

944
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: Where do they put the guy they think can't play?

945
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: Although I could in the outfield, in the outfield where

946
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: in the outfield? Right field?

947
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: Right?

948
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: And I remember a ball is hit to right field

949
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: and I could feel the gasp.

950
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no.

951
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 9: Anyone but Howard and going back to the fence and

952
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 9: I can't say my eyes were open or closed, but

953
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 9: the ball it I caught it.

954
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And this is this is sadly one of

955
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 3: the great moments of my life that I talked about.

956
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 6: I remember this game, you winds yet you did didn't

957
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 6: didn't you know? You lost?

958
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: That's no, that's right.

959
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 6: But I remember going there like, Okay, it's the it's

960
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 6: the finals. We're playing Home Improvement. I was like, okay,

961
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 6: I'm going to go see a nice softball game. And

962
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 6: then I remember people from Home Improvement striking out, like

963
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 6: throwing the bat on the ground, and kicking dirt, and

964
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 6: I was like, oh god, there, everybody's taking this really seriously,

965
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 6: like it.

966
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: Was this four.

967
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: No, no, you weren't there the first season, so.

968
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 8: Seven.

969
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a very special time. And uh it was.

970
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: It was. It was so much fun. Uh So years later,

971
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: somebody uh said to me, did you write for It's

972
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: Adam Sandler? Did you write for Adam Sandler? And I know,

973
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 3: why what are you talking about? He said, there's a

974
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: there's a disc that he put out, a CD. Yeah,

975
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 3: that's called left Field, and you're listed as a writer

976
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: on this thing. And I go, what do you I

977
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: don't you know. I don't I didn't write it. I

978
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: don't know Adam Sandler. I don't know him. We crossed

979
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: past his comics. Anyways, long story short, I listened to

980
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 3: c D and he's playing a character in left field

981
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: that's standing out there going please don't hit to me,

982
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: Please don't hit to me. It's the if anyone knows

983
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 3: Adam Sandler, tell me, I want to know I'm listed

984
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: as a writer and I don't unless he was at

985
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: that game and he saw that moment's.

986
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so funny. He may have been at that game.

987
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: He may have been at that game. Horror on my face.

988
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. I want to talk about Long Walk to

989
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Part two. It's another big script where Tapega returns

990
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: to the Matthew's house after walking in the rain in

991
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: the rain. Do you remember that tape night and all

992
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: the secrecy around the reveal of Tapega in front of

993
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: the audience, You know, I don't.

994
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: I know, I don't.

995
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 2: This is why Craig came on before you.

996
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 3: Now, I know, right. What did he say about it?

997
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 6: He was amazing, he said it was the biggest, the

998
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 6: biggest audience reaction we had to that point, and it was,

999
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 6: you know, it was an episode that we all thought

1000
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 6: was interesting because it's it was also what's her name

1001
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 6: who came back who just unfortunately passed away, Olivia Hussey

1002
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 6: who came on, who was Topanga's aunt. It was a big,

1003
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 6: very big episode. Is also kind of the thing that

1004
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 6: we that amazed all of us as we did the

1005
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 6: rewatch is the fact that the writers very subtly and

1006
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 6: yet abruptly, if that's possible, went from not using Tapanga

1007
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 6: enough to her being integral to the show within episodes.

1008
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 6: So that was one of the Long Walk to Pittsburgh

1009
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 6: might be one of the ones that really sealed it

1010
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 6: as Topanga being as important, if not more important, than

1011
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 6: most of the other characters on the show.

1012
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so I've got to put that on my watch

1013
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: list too.

1014
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

1015
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I I. I did not get to

1016
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: that episode. You have the advantage of having seen it.

1017
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: In the one we did. We just we just watched them.

1018
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: That's why we were just watching them again.

1019
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: Okay, so what is your favorite episode? Do you have

1020
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: one that you remember well.

1021
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 3: Now that I the now that I've heard the story,

1022
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: it's the B and B s being B and B. Yeah,

1023
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: I know, I already love the setup. I love I'm

1024
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: sure came home too early?

1025
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: Yep, he did.

1026
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know. I'm already so excited about watching it.

1027
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: There's also a very little what we should do is

1028
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 4: we should tell Howard one of his own episodes and

1029
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: have him pitch us plots like scenes and see how

1030
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 4: much they end up being exactly what they actually were

1031
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 4: because he doesn't remember.

1032
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: That's pretty great, that's funny.

1033
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: I did love. Breaking up is really really hard to

1034
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 3: do too.

1035
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: We love that.

1036
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 7: Which one is that one of the Wendy, right, that's

1037
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 7: that's the love that episode that's to you as the

1038
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 7: old Men. Yeah, yeah, which I mean you could argue

1039
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 7: is the best scene in the history of the show.

1040
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 2: I mean, there really is an.

1041
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 5: Argument the history of the show. Season two.

1042
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 6: I mean, but it's just it's so iconic and so good,

1043
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 6: and you and Ben just so great in it.

1044
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 5: We're having so much fun.

1045
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could you could really say that that was

1046
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: arguably the best scene we've ever done.

1047
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: Oh that's very fine, but you know, and I love

1048
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: Wendy and that I love loved it. But there were moments,

1049
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: you know, there's a couple of cringe worthy moments, you know,

1050
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: when they're talking about her, she's she's crazy.

1051
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's.

1052
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: Where I'm like, Okay, maybe we could have been a

1053
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 3: little more delicate about that, you know, I'm not Yeah,

1054
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I would do that the same way

1055
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 3: right now, but but I just can't. I also couldn't

1056
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: believe we went there too, Like, I can't believe we

1057
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: actually went to this, to this place of of pushing

1058
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: Wendy that far.

1059
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: Yes, she was great too.

1060
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 6: The actress that played her was wonderful, wonderful, wonderful?

1061
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, do.

1062
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: You remember I don't remember her name.

1063
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna ask you questions that you don't know.

1064
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't remember. We'll find out.

1065
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 4: Well, well, she played my girlfriend on Home Improvement before

1066
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 4: the one episode of Home Improvement I've done.

1067
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 5: It's written by Susan stelle Jensen.

1068
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So how many of or did any of

1069
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 6: the episodes you write? Did any of the stories that

1070
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 6: you pitch that made it in did any of them

1071
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: come from your real life experiences? Did any did you

1072
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 6: have a Wendy or did any of this stuff actually

1073
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 6: happen to you?

1074
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: Guys?

1075
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. If you know me, I don't

1076
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: have any real life experiences.

1077
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that's accurate.

1078
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: I don't live in the real world.

1079
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: You live in the future. In the future, very very wessondo.

1080
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: I actually looked at it when I watched the episode.

1081
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 3: When is that el Fanning? Like I thought, she Yeah,

1082
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: she's really good. Yeah, here's here's what. But I do

1083
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: know that we loved, we love coming up with like

1084
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: the BnB episode, or like we love coming up with

1085
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: Corey Sean Capers. That's what's the fun. And you know,

1086
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 3: I'm sorry at the time, I probably wasn't the best

1087
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 3: person to write to Panga.

1088
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: You know that's okay. I appreciate you recognizing that.

1089
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: You know, I know, and and I'm sure my wife

1090
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: would tell you that I'm not the guy to write.

1091
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: If you wrote to Pega anything like Wendy, we'd be

1092
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: having a different conversation.

1093
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: You know, we love we love the caper, so that's

1094
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: where you would find those And you know, I'd like

1095
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: to I'd like someone tell me I don't remember the

1096
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: origination of the piggy story, which is insane. I just

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Speaker 3: you know, again, that's a little that's a buddy between

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Speaker 3: you know, a man, a man and a four legged animal,

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Speaker 3: and it's beautiful. Somebody did tell us.

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Speaker 5: To tell us the origin of that.

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Speaker 4: There was an origin somebody, I swear it's one of

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Speaker 4: our interviews, is the one.

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Speaker 1: Where Michael went to go pitch a pilot. Did Jeff

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Speaker 1: McCracken tell us it?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 5: Hysterical story?

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Speaker 4: Now I feel like so like blud Man had a story,

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Speaker 4: there was somebody who had a pot belly pig. And

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Speaker 4: that's why our listeners probably will remember everyone's.

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Speaker 1: Yaeling at us and the everyone's yeling at us in

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Speaker 1: their cars.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I just want to the Pig has

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Speaker 3: been on before me too.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, as our third guest, yea three times.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have much time with the pig and so

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Speaker 1: we thought let's have him on very early. Amazing he

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Speaker 1: lived thirty years.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to have the pig on at

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Speaker 3: my deli.

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Speaker 2: So for the opening of Wilson has excellent for the

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Speaker 2: Tom Hanks Veggie Sandwich on Ham, I want to.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about your memories

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Speaker 1: of when you guys left. So from what we've from

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Speaker 1: what we've gathered, you guys were taking over the room

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Speaker 1: in season five, but then Michael's other show got canceled

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Speaker 1: and he returned, and you two were interested in staying

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Speaker 1: head writers, and so you basically left. Is that the

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Speaker 1: gist it was?

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Speaker 3: You know, Michael gave us, it was very generous, gave

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Speaker 3: us our start, did so many great things for him.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I I think I could feel there

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00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: was an expiration date to how long you know you

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Speaker 3: want to you want to move on and do other things. Sure,

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Speaker 3: and he was very he was very generous, and I'm

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00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: very grateful for the opportunity. But you know, when he

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00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: came back, I think we both felt that it was

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Speaker 3: time to kind of just exp or what else we

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00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: could do. You know, Uh, we got an offer to

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Speaker 3: do and this sounds horrible now because as I look back,

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00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 3: it was probably the dumbest thing that we could do.

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Speaker 3: We got an opportunity to be on a Tom Selleck pilot,

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Speaker 3: to do a show with Tom Selleck that was created and.

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Speaker 5: But you never know what television that makes pro you

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00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 5: never know that move, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but on paper, it sounded like this was going

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Speaker 3: to be you know, and a huge actor. With all

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00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: due respect Tom, maybe not the funniest man. That's a

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Speaker 3: lot of things great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, an awesome times seek Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not the leading a sitcom, you know, as I

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Speaker 3: look back, right, So, but you're at the time you're

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Speaker 3: offered the show, it's it's it's an adult show. So

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Speaker 3: to see it, you know, it's it's the version of Oh,

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Speaker 3: a pretty girl just walked by. You know. Kind of

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Speaker 3: horrible again looking back, but uh, it just looked like

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Speaker 3: an amazing opportunity for us, and it all happened very quickly.

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Speaker 3: That was part of the thing. It was like I

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Speaker 3: felt like we were there and then we weren't there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was midweek.

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Speaker 4: I remember saying goodbye to you guys. I think it

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Speaker 4: was during the the Ski Lodge episode.

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Speaker 6: Which is why I didn't get a chance to say goodbye,

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Speaker 6: because I wasn't in that episode and I just came

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Speaker 6: back to do the next episode and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 6: Mark and harradigone.

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Speaker 3: No, I wondered why you didn't say goodbye, And it's

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Speaker 3: bothered me.

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Speaker 2: It's because you didn't say goodbye about that.

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Speaker 3: It stayed with me a long.

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Speaker 6: Time because I was, well, that's that week I was

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Speaker 6: hanging out with Tom Selleck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I have picture.

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Speaker 3: I have pictures to you.

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Speaker 6: But it was guy, I just came back and you

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Speaker 6: guys were gone, wait what it happened.

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Speaker 3: Too abruptly, And it's one of those it's you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say a regret. It wasn't maybe

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Speaker 3: a well as well thought out a decision as maybe

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Speaker 3: looking back, I would have liked. Although you know, again.

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Speaker 1: You did the best you could.

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Speaker 3: We did the best we could, but it all happened

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Speaker 3: too quickly, for for for us, for being on a

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Speaker 3: show for three years, four years and suddenly leaving like that.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I guess you know.

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Speaker 1: The baseball team was never the same without baseball.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't the same field. I guarded that, I guarded that fence.

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Speaker 2: You did, okay, golden glove, golden.

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Speaker 3: Gloves and glove, eyes closed, eyes open. I was there.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever think at the time that you were

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Speaker 1: on Boy Meets World that thirty years later we would

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Speaker 1: still be talking about at it and it would still

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Speaker 1: be relevant.

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Speaker 3: No. Yeah, that's the beauty of this. That's the same thing.

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Speaker 3: That's the lesson for you know, for people out there.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's just, you know, we all did our

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Speaker 3: best and it was special because the emotional element, the

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Speaker 3: dramatic element, so we knew we knew it was special.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie. I don't know that I

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Speaker 3: appreciated that part of it.

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Speaker 6: I don't think any of us did, to be honest

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Speaker 6: with you, thank you, But it's true, and we talk

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Speaker 6: about that all the time.

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Speaker 2: We didn't. None of us knew what we had. None

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Speaker 2: of us appreciated it as much as we should have.

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Speaker 2: But that's also just being young. When do you appreciate

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Speaker 2: anything when you're that age.

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Speaker 5: Well, Howard, wasn't that young.

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Speaker 3: I've always been this this always.

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Speaker 2: You kind of have you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look the same, look the same. I look like this.

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Speaker 3: I've grown into this a little bit more, you know.

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Speaker 3: For those you can't see, it's the silver fox thing

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Speaker 3: is kind of almost yeah, yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Howard, thank you, Thank you so much for being

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Speaker 1: our seven hundred and sixty fifth guest.

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Speaker 3: You know what, it's an honor.

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Speaker 1: You lived up to it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's worth I've been sitting at the

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Speaker 3: zoom for the years.

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Speaker 4: Just waiting for the badly, just waiting for the ball, being.

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Speaker 3: The little pig, and when the little pig got called,

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Speaker 3: it hurt a little bit. I'm here and I appreciate

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01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: this so much. And you know, if you ever hear

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01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: little bells going off, it's people talking about you and

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Speaker 3: our little DELI.

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Speaker 1: Can we please come visit you in Buzzy Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: of course we'd like to come visit.

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Speaker 3: They'll be lining up, are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: It'll be on the front page of Buzzies Dot see.

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Speaker 3: Me and greet me a meet and greet.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, there you go. Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. You. This was a lot of

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01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 3: fun and continued obviously six. Yes, you guys are great

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Speaker 3: and so much fun to listen to.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, Thank you so much. Howard. It was

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Speaker 1: great to see you. We'll see you at Buzzi's.

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Speaker 4: OK.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: He's funny.

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Speaker 3: He is so funny.

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Speaker 6: He's got that kind of dry self deprecating thing that

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01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 6: I love, same kind.

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Speaker 1: Of self deprecating, but he's also deprecating.

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Speaker 4: But he's one of those guys like I love I

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01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 4: love it when he's like I was more about the

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01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 4: room because he did not break.

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Speaker 2: Up that much.

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Speaker 4: He was very unassuming, especially compared to blud Man, because

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Speaker 4: bluff Man was like always hanging out with me, like

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01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 4: talking to me and like and you know, just one

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Speaker 4: of us in a way, and Howard was always there.

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Speaker 5: And but I don't I didn't connect with him.

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01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 4: And now I'm like, man, I would love to know

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01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 4: Howard because I totally missed you know you went with

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 4: especially at that age is like fifteen, I went to

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Speaker 4: whoever was the biggest personality.

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01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: Talking totally do you know what I mean?

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: And so somebody like Howard, who's like wit and intelligence.

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Speaker 5: Was sort of more back rounded.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have leaned into.

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Speaker 5: Because I just didn't think like that.

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01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 4: It was just like, Oh, I just listened to whoever's

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01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 4: talking to me, So yeah, I'd love to get up

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 4: there and have a sandwich at.

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Speaker 5: His deli in that really would be so fun so funny.

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Speaker 1: Geez well, thank you all for listening to this episode

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Speaker 1: of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us

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