WEBVTT - Let's Kiss the Cod in Newfoundland!

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to part Time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, what's that mango?

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<v Speaker 1>So you know how small towns like to beef up

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<v Speaker 1>their tourism by advertising a weird claim to fame, Like

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<v Speaker 1>how Riverside, Iowa prides itself as the future birthplace of

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Kirk. I really love that's right, And how Montpelier,

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<v Speaker 1>Vermont claims to be the rotten sneaker capital of the World.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, though I'm not convinced that gross old sneakers are

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<v Speaker 3>that much of a draw.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, sometimes I think it pays to

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<v Speaker 1>think outside the box, and that's especially true on the

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<v Speaker 1>remote island of Newfoundland. The top three attractions in the

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian province are icebergs, whales, and puffin. But since visitors

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<v Speaker 1>can experience all of those things in just about every

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<v Speaker 1>coastal town there, having a unique offering can really help

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<v Speaker 1>the smaller town stand out from the crowd, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best examples of this I found is a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny fishing village called Elliston at the tip of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bonavista Peninsula. For the last twenty five years, Elliston has

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<v Speaker 1>touted itself as the uncontested root seller capital of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It has more than one hundred and thirty documented root

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<v Speaker 1>sellers built into hills and banks all over town, and

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<v Speaker 1>about half of them are still in use today. That

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<v Speaker 1>means that with a population of about three hundred people,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one active root seller for every five residents.

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<v Speaker 3>Sell I mean, I got to say, I'm surprised more

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<v Speaker 3>people haven't visited just to see all those root sellers.

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<v Speaker 3>Mango speaking, which what what's a root seller?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's basically a cold, underground storage spot for

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<v Speaker 1>storing root, vegetables and sometimes fruit. The oldest sellers are

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<v Speaker 1>nearly two hundred years old, and from the outside they

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<v Speaker 1>look like cozy, little hobbit homes built right into the hillside.

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<v Speaker 1>And while it might sound strange to take a tour of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a bunch of random root sellers, the underground

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<v Speaker 1>structures actually reveal a lot about the story of Newfoundland.

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<v Speaker 1>For centuries, European settlers relied on root sellers to survive

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<v Speaker 1>the harsh winters, and as a result, many of the

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<v Speaker 1>region's most famous dishes are based on the foods that

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<v Speaker 1>were stored in them. For example, the traditional Sunday meal

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<v Speaker 1>in Newfoundland is Jigs dinner, which consists of boiled carrots, turnips, potatoes, cabbage,

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<v Speaker 1>peas pudding, which is a savory pudding made of slit

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<v Speaker 1>peas and salt beef. And no trip to Newfoundland would

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<v Speaker 1>be complete without trying it. And the truth is you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of appreciate the meal a little more once you

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<v Speaker 1>visit a cellar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have to met, you're winning me over with

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<v Speaker 3>the dinner angle here. But you know, if Jigs is

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<v Speaker 3>a regional dish, then I'm guessing root sellers aren't exactly

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<v Speaker 3>unique to Elliston, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So underground sellers are scattered here and there throughout the province,

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<v Speaker 1>but Elliston is definitely home to the highest number of them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also the town that still makes most use of

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<v Speaker 1>them today, not only as a tourist attraction, but as

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<v Speaker 1>a part of daily life. So many local families still

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<v Speaker 1>depend on the food that's stored in their cellars, whether

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<v Speaker 1>for their own subsistence or as a commodity to sell

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, neighbors or to tourists. And because underground

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<v Speaker 1>storage is one of the greenest methods of preserving food.

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<v Speaker 1>Between the hyper local ingredients and a zero power storage system.

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<v Speaker 1>Elliston's eco footprint is about as small as it gets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny because root sellers seem very much like a

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<v Speaker 3>thing of the past, but if you think about the

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<v Speaker 3>residents of Ellis ten, it's like they're using them to

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<v Speaker 3>make the community more sustainable going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and actually that's a very new Finland approach to

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<v Speaker 1>cultural traditions. Like the whole spirit of the region is

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes likened to a fisherman in his boat. He moves

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<v Speaker 1>the vessel forward to his destination, but he sits backwards

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<v Speaker 1>while rowing. And the idea is that sometimes in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get where you want to go, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep your sight on where you came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that, And I'm guessing by now our listeners

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<v Speaker 3>have probably figured out our next destination. Newfoundland is one

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<v Speaker 3>of those mysterious places that we've always been curious to visit,

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<v Speaker 3>and today we are finally getting that chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the US and Canada I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>getting along too lately, but it's a country we adore

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<v Speaker 1>here on the show. So in the spirit of friendship,

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<v Speaker 1>we thought we'd spotlight one of the country's most unique

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<v Speaker 1>and far flung destinations.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's dive in.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, their podcast listeners, welcome the part time genius. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Will Pearson and as always I'm joined by my good

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<v Speaker 3>friend Mangesh Ticketer. On the other side of that soundproof

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<v Speaker 3>glass showing off his Royal Order of Screecher's Certificate, that's

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<v Speaker 3>our friend and producer Dylan Fagan. Now he claims the

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<v Speaker 3>certificate makes him an honorary Newfoundlander, but it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of thing you could just print out online.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm a little bit skeptical. I always want to

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<v Speaker 3>trust Dylan, but this one seems a little fishy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I read up on this and taking part

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<v Speaker 1>in a screech in ceremony is pretty obscure and wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course it's no surprise that our show's most

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<v Speaker 1>interesting person, Dylan, has screeched.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, wait to back up a second. What is

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<v Speaker 2>a screech in?

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<v Speaker 1>So getting screeched is basically a tongue in cheek tradition

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<v Speaker 1>for welcoming visitors to Newfoundland. It started in the capital

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<v Speaker 1>city of Saint John's back in the nineteen seventies, and

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<v Speaker 1>while the exact ritual varies from one pub to the next,

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<v Speaker 1>it mostly consists of three parts. First, you recite a

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<v Speaker 1>vaguely vulgar oath loaded with maritime lingo. Then you take

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<v Speaker 1>a shot of locally bottled Jamaican run called screech, and lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>you plant a big wet kiss on a frozen codfish.

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<v Speaker 3>You are lobbying hard for that trophy for this week's

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<v Speaker 3>episode with just that fact. What a ridiculous tradition and

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<v Speaker 3>I love it, But does getting screeched have any basis

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<v Speaker 3>in the region's history year Is it just some drunken

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<v Speaker 3>nonsense and fish kissing.

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<v Speaker 1>A little both? Actually, there are stories of Newfoundland sailors

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<v Speaker 1>performing similar joke initiations, and this goes back to the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forties. And as for the rum of the fish,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nod to the region's colonial history, when French

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<v Speaker 1>and British settlers traded salted codfish in exchange for rum

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<v Speaker 1>from the West Indies. Now, I'm not sure exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>kissing got added to the mix, but I'm guessing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of rum definitely had something to do with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Only you, though it sounds like tourists are the ones

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<v Speaker 3>who are kissing the cod. I know that Newfoundlanders are

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<v Speaker 3>pretty fond of the fish themselves. So for hundreds of years,

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<v Speaker 3>codfishing was the backbone of the region's economy, and even

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<v Speaker 3>though the Canadian government put a stop to commercial codfishing

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<v Speaker 3>from nineteen ninety two all the way to twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>the lean whitefish still holds an outsized place in the

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<v Speaker 3>local food culture. In fact, I read that cod is

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<v Speaker 3>so ubiquitous there that when Newfoundlanders say the word fish,

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<v Speaker 3>they really just mean cod, like that's the default.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of How like coke is a word for soda

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<v Speaker 1>in the South.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know what other words.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you say what kind of coke do you want,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is always great bica.

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<v Speaker 3>Salmon is a salmon and tuna is a tuna. But

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<v Speaker 3>fish only is ever caught there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love that, And it also highlights just how

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<v Speaker 1>crucial cod was to New Finland's development. Like think about

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<v Speaker 1>an indigenous group settled there thousands of years ago because

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<v Speaker 1>of the rich cod filled waters, and then English, Irish

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<v Speaker 1>and French settlers did the same throughout the sixteenth all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the nineteenth centuries. Cod was so tasty

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<v Speaker 1>and so abundant that it lured people from all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world and convinced them to plant roots in this

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<v Speaker 1>really rugged and honestly very isolated area.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the lure of the codfish is a big

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<v Speaker 3>reason why Newfundland is the cultural melting pot that it

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<v Speaker 3>is today. But for all of our fish reverse listeners

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<v Speaker 3>out there, don't worry. Even though seafood is king on

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<v Speaker 3>the island, there are plenty of other local delicacies that

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<v Speaker 3>don't have fins, chief among them moose meat and in particular,

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<v Speaker 3>moose baloney.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about that, mango?

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of moose bolony.

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<v Speaker 3>I had not either before we were talking about this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>The largest member of the deer family was introduced to

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<v Speaker 3>the island in the early twentieth century. This was back

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<v Speaker 3>when Nufouland was still a British colony, and its meat

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<v Speaker 3>quickly became a staple and mini island kitchens and moose

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<v Speaker 3>boloney proved especially popular with the locals, not only due

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<v Speaker 3>to its low cost and long shelf life, but also

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<v Speaker 3>its versatility. So today people there serve up moose boloney

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<v Speaker 3>in every way you could think of fried baked barbecue, stewd,

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<v Speaker 3>canned curried, you name it, They've got it.

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<v Speaker 1>So is all this bolooney on the island moose bolooney

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way all fish is shorthand for a cod.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean moose BOLONEI is definitely the default, but you

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<v Speaker 3>might not see it called that on a menu. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>people there have their own joking nickname for it. They

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<v Speaker 3>called it noofy steak.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know there's another unique island cuisine I want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about. But before that, let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. Welcome back to part time genius. Okay, Well, so,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to what you said about Newfoundland being a

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<v Speaker 1>melting pot, did you know the island has its own

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<v Speaker 1>style of Chinese food?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I actually saw something about that in the

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<v Speaker 3>research and it seems kind of an outlier for an

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<v Speaker 3>island in the North Atlantic. So I'm curious what the

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<v Speaker 3>story is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So this goes back to the late eighteen hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>when a large number of Chinese immigrants came to Canada

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<v Speaker 1>to work on the Canadian Pacific Railway and many of

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<v Speaker 1>the families stuck around once construction was completed, and because

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<v Speaker 1>the laws were racist at the time, and they barred

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese men from working most professions. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>wound up opening their own restaurants. Now, just like in

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<v Speaker 1>the States, Chinese immigrants weren't able to find many of

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<v Speaker 1>the ingredients that they were used to cooking with. They

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had to improvise and develop new dishes to

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<v Speaker 1>cater to their Western customers, and this resulted in this

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<v Speaker 1>whole slew of regional fusion dishes, including things like peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter dumplings in Montreal, ginger beef in Alberta, and stir

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<v Speaker 1>fried macaroni in Quebec.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that actually sounds pretty incredible, I know, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm surprise there hasn't been like a Canadian Chinese place

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<v Speaker 4>that opened in Brooklyn like that. Sure there is one actually,

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<v Speaker 4>but those improvised dishes, which became known as Chop suey cuisine,

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<v Speaker 4>were served all over Canada by the mid twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 4>and as chefs continued to expand into more remote regions,

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<v Speaker 4>the search for Chinese ingredients got even tougher.

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<v Speaker 1>That was especially true in Newfoundland, where it was next

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<v Speaker 1>to impossible to even get the basics like soy sauce,

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<v Speaker 1>bock choi or things like egg noodles, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>were hard to ship onto the island, and this meant

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<v Speaker 1>that tried and true dishes couldn't be prepared as they

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<v Speaker 1>were in other parts of Canada. So once again China,

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<v Speaker 1>these restaurant tours got creative and gave the island their

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<v Speaker 1>own regional specialty, New Finland style chow Maine.

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<v Speaker 3>But actually I'm thinking about this. Chow main literally means

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<v Speaker 3>fried noodles, So how do you make it without egg noodles?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently you substitute cabbage, or at least that's the

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<v Speaker 1>solution that one of their resourceful early chefs came up with.

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<v Speaker 1>He sliced the cabbage into long, thin strips so that

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<v Speaker 1>they'd at least look like noodles, and then he stir

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<v Speaker 1>fried them with veggies and chicken, and whil New Finland

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<v Speaker 1>style chow Maine was worn. The dish proved such a

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<v Speaker 1>hit with locals that it was quickly added to Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>menus all over the island.

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<v Speaker 2>And is this something you can still get today?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So these days it's obviously much easier to import

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<v Speaker 1>noodles to the island. But just like with cod and

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<v Speaker 1>moose boloni, this new Finland original remains the default. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you order chow Maine there, you'll absolutely get a

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<v Speaker 1>big bowl of cabbage strips. But if you want noodles instead,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to ask for them specifically.

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<v Speaker 3>I do love that they serve fried noodles without the noodles,

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<v Speaker 3>and nobody thinks that's we somehow, and it does make

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<v Speaker 3>me wonder though, like, is there the same stigma surrounding

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<v Speaker 3>Canadian Chinese food as there is with you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>American Chinese food, because we always hear that our take

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<v Speaker 3>on the cuisine is inauthentic and shouldn't really be considered Chinese.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious is it the same up North?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Canadian Chinese chefs definitely feeled many of the same criticisms,

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<v Speaker 1>But it really comes down to what someone means by

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<v Speaker 1>real Chinese food. Like there's this book called Chop Suey Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's by this Chinese journalist and we and in it,

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<v Speaker 1>she goes on this big road trip to small town

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese restaurants in Canada, including the ones in Newfoundland, And

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<v Speaker 1>while she starts out kind of dismissive of this food,

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<v Speaker 1>the island's take on cho main ultimately wins her over.

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<v Speaker 1>She said the cabbage actually made the dish more flavorful

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<v Speaker 1>than the traditional version, and that realization makes her completely

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<v Speaker 1>rethink her stance on Chop suey cuisine. In fact, she

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<v Speaker 1>writes quote, this dish, from its origin story to its

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<v Speaker 1>ingredients to its execution, was utterly completely Newfoundland. It told

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<v Speaker 1>the story of this place.

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<v Speaker 2>It was as.

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian as it was Chinese. The families behind it had

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<v Speaker 1>created cuisine that was a testament to creativity, perseverance, and resourcefulness.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't fake Chinese, but instead the most Chinese of all.

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<v Speaker 2>The most Chinese of all. Wow, that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd say that's a pretty strong endorsement, and it

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<v Speaker 3>does make me want to give this noodle free noodle

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<v Speaker 3>dish a try.

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<v Speaker 2>I just somehow can't get past this.

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<v Speaker 3>But all right, now that we've covered some of Newfoundland's

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<v Speaker 3>history and food culture, feel like we should run through

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<v Speaker 3>a few of the favorite activities to try while visiting

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<v Speaker 3>the island. After all, we don't want to spend our

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<v Speaker 3>entire vacation hanging out in root sellers. So beyond food,

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<v Speaker 3>Newfoundland really has a lot to offer, and visitors to

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<v Speaker 3>the island are especially spoiled for choice. When it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to wildlife watching, You've got puff and breeding season in

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<v Speaker 3>the spring and summer. You get whale migrations in the

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<v Speaker 3>summer and then early fall. And if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>see a moose, apparently you can just go out to

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<v Speaker 3>the highway at dusk and you'll probably find a few

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be there licking season off the pavement.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that, and it really sounds kind of spectacular,

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<v Speaker 1>all this wildlife, you know. I actually checked to see

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<v Speaker 1>if there was a good moose watching tour I could book,

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<v Speaker 1>But it turns out that's not a thing. Like moose

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<v Speaker 1>are just such a normal part of the scenery there

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have to go out of your way

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<v Speaker 1>to spot one, Which brings me to my next travel tip.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Blend in with the locals, don't let on that you're

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see a move.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That may be hard for me to do, but I

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<v Speaker 3>also know we've got a couple non moose related sites

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<v Speaker 3>to recommend. Before we get to that, let's take another

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<v Speaker 3>quick break. You're listening to part Time Genius and we're

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<v Speaker 3>sharing our muscye stops while touring Newfoundland.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Mengo.

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<v Speaker 3>So, staying on the subject of animals that evoke a

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<v Speaker 3>profound sense of awe, there's a sign on Newfoundland's code

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<v Speaker 3>called Mistaken Point, and it's actually the final resting place

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<v Speaker 3>of the earliest ancestral animals on the planet. They're known

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<v Speaker 3>as Eddiacrin organisms because they date back to the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the Eddiachrn period, which, as you know very well,

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<v Speaker 3>was roughly six hundred million years ago, and they represent

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<v Speaker 3>the earliest examples of large biologically complex life forms, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an important leap and evolution here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I assumed these guys were some kind of sea creature.

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<v Speaker 1>But you said there's a fossil site, So what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>did they look like?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, based on the more than ten thousand fossil impressions

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<v Speaker 3>found along the coastline of Mistaken Point, Eddiochrins ranged in

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<v Speaker 3>size from a few centimeters to nearly two meters in length.

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<v Speaker 3>They were soft bodied creatures that lived on the deep seafloor,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had several different body types, all of which

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<v Speaker 3>were incredibly bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>Mango, that is so rude.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we don't body shame on this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I just can't help it.

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<v Speaker 3>And some of them were tubular blobs, others look like

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<v Speaker 3>fern leaves. But the strangest of the bunch had to

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<v Speaker 3>be one of the ones that looked like these flat

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<v Speaker 3>ribbed pancakes. So here's a fossil photo so you can

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<v Speaker 3>see what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's definitely a pancake with.

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<v Speaker 2>Ribs, exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But the really cool thing about mistaken point is that

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of fossil impressions are readily visible on the surface

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<v Speaker 3>of the rock, including ones left behind by those pancake

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<v Speaker 3>looking guys. Now, if you look closely, some of the

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<v Speaker 3>impressions actually formed trails. They're sort of like footprints.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so did eddie acrans have feet?

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<v Speaker 2>They did not.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, feet did not exist at that point, either

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<v Speaker 3>did walking or swimming or really any form of locomotion.

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<v Speaker 3>So most living organisms just sort of floated along wherever

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<v Speaker 3>the currents took them and ate whatever bits of food

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<v Speaker 3>happened to pass by. But that's what's so amazing about

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<v Speaker 3>these fossil trails in Newfoundland is that they're thought to

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<v Speaker 3>be the earliest known examples of an animal moving on

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<v Speaker 3>its own. Oh wow, some bold little diocrans figured out

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<v Speaker 3>how to move their muscles and move intentionally really from

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<v Speaker 3>one place to another. This was an adaptation that forever

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<v Speaker 3>changed life on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is all going off those ancient proto footprints.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, thanks to the research of paleontologists Alexander

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<v Speaker 3>lou we now know that the crescent shaped impressions left

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<v Speaker 3>in the rock were likely made by this suction cup

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<v Speaker 3>like appendage that some of these creatures may have had,

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<v Speaker 3>and they used it to adhere to these flat surfaces,

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<v Speaker 3>just like you know, see an enemies and other creatures

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<v Speaker 3>like that. And in some areas of Mistaken Point you

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<v Speaker 3>can actually see a whole bunch of those crescents nested

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<v Speaker 3>together in a line. So the thinking is that those

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<v Speaker 3>impressions were left behind by an ediocran that managed to

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<v Speaker 3>stretch out its suction cup foot and kind of drag

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<v Speaker 3>itself forward like one shaky step at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, next time you're in Newfoundland and you want to

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<v Speaker 3>mix a little science history and your animal sight seeing,

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<v Speaker 3>you should check out the fossils at Mistaken Point and

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<v Speaker 3>tip your hat to the planet's og travelers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, eddie Acrians might be embedded in for

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<v Speaker 1>the whole world to see. But there's another kind of

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<v Speaker 1>island wildlife that is far more elusive. And I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Newfoundland faerry.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm guessing that Newfoudland fairy was just another word

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<v Speaker 3>for cod No.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out the province is home to a surprisingly

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<v Speaker 1>rich fairy folklore tradition. Fairy sightings in the region date

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<v Speaker 1>back to long before the rival of Europeans, when indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>groups told stories of reclusive little people with supernatural powers

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<v Speaker 1>who supposedly lived alongside them. Then, when settlers from Celtic

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<v Speaker 1>cultures came to Newfoundland in the sixteen hundreds, they added

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<v Speaker 1>to the island's lore by drawing on the fairy legends

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<v Speaker 1>of their hometowns in Ireland, England and Scotland as well.

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<v Speaker 3>This sort of proves our earlier point that Newfoundland is

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<v Speaker 3>much more of a melting pot than you might expect exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And the result of all that cultural blending is this

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<v Speaker 1>distinct oral tradition and folklore that really doesn't exist anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>else in Canada. So even though Newfoundland fairies don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>exist as far as we know, there's still a super

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<v Speaker 1>important part of the island's culture. Most locals have at

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<v Speaker 1>least a few fairy stories to tell you, many of

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<v Speaker 1>which have been handed down through their families for generations.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm curious, though, what are these stories about, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>are they cautionary tales or adventures or what?

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<v Speaker 1>So the main through line in all these legends is

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<v Speaker 1>that fairies are mischief makers, so a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>stories are recountings of people's supposed encounters with fairies and

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<v Speaker 1>the different pranks they like to play on humans. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the fairi's favorite tricks include knocking over stacks of firewood,

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<v Speaker 1>braiding together the tail of all horses in a stable,

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<v Speaker 1>and confusing berry pickers by conjuring a bunch of trees

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a pathway.

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<v Speaker 2>As little trouble makers.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's more like a leprechaun than your typical Disney

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<v Speaker 3>fairy or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and another difference is that Nuflin fairies don't have wings.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, their physical appearance changes depending on the story,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they look like children or knee high adults,

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<v Speaker 1>so again much like leprechauns. But in other cases they

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<v Speaker 1>just appear as glowing lights or.

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<v Speaker 2>Even as animals.

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<v Speaker 1>They can use their shape shifting power to play some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty mean tricks too. Like there's this old belief that

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<v Speaker 1>if a happy baby suddenly gets temperamental, or a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>baby grows sickly, then it's probably because a fairy has

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<v Speaker 1>swapped the real infront with the changeling, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>a fairy in disguise.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that seems like a pretty low bar for

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<v Speaker 3>deciding your baby's an imposter like that, How do you

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<v Speaker 3>know it's not a real baby who just needs a nap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or a snack or something. Right, But apparently it's easy.

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<v Speaker 1>According to legend, if you sneak into a nursery really

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<v Speaker 1>quiet and you catch the baby's doppelganger smoking a corn

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<v Speaker 1>cob pipe, then you know it's a fairy and which

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<v Speaker 1>point the spell will be broken.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that's a good good rule of thumb there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the good news is that there are some ways

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<v Speaker 1>to protect yourself from fairy mischief. Carrying bread in your

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<v Speaker 1>pockets is a surefire way to ward off fairies, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you wear a piece of clothing inside out while

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<v Speaker 1>walking in the forest, they won't be able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going and can't lead you astray. And lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>coins are thought to be another charm asient against fairy

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<v Speaker 1>which is why the more superstitious locals still pin silver

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<v Speaker 1>coins to their clothing or even hide them inside baby carriages.

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<v Speaker 1>So when visiting Newfoundland, stuff some rolls into your pockets

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<v Speaker 1>and wear your shirt inside out. You might get some

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<v Speaker 1>weird looks, but also you'll be safe from the fairy attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Better safe than sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm curious that, like, why are Newfoundland fairies

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<v Speaker 3>so averse to coins and bread?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think there's an official explanation or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did read an interview in Canadian Living with

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Dale Jarvis, who works for the Heritage Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>of Newfoundland, and he pointed out that the region's fairy

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<v Speaker 1>folklore is deeply tied to the natural world, and that

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<v Speaker 1>the fairies themselves are kind of a personification of nature.

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<v Speaker 1>As he puts it quote, they're neither good nor bad.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't follow human rules. Fairy stories are how we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about our interaction with the unpredictability of nature. They

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<v Speaker 1>take place at the end of the garden where people

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<v Speaker 1>go to pick berries, in the meadow, at the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>or slightly away from the house. In the border zone

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<v Speaker 1>between the wild and the So in that light, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes sense that fairies would shy away from

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<v Speaker 1>bread and money, since those are products of human society

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<v Speaker 1>other than nature.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it is interesting that Newfoundland fairies are something

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<v Speaker 3>to be avoided instead of a culture where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fairies grant wishes or improve people's fortunes. But let's just

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<v Speaker 3>say one of our listeners wanted to throw caution into

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<v Speaker 3>the wind and try to find one, like, where might

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<v Speaker 3>they cross paths with a fairy in Newfoundland?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So, one of the most notorious gathering places for fairies

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<v Speaker 1>is the so called Fairy Ring, which is in the

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<v Speaker 1>town of Harbor Grace on the Avalon Peninsula. It's this eerie,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect circle of thirteen massive beast trees and it's surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by an otherwise barren field. So you can imagine why

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<v Speaker 1>this has sort of gained this loure, and according to legend,

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<v Speaker 1>fairies meet there under the cover of darkness to dance

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<v Speaker 1>hand in hand in the moonlight. I wouldn't recommend trekking

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<v Speaker 1>out there, though, according to legend, if the fairies catch

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<v Speaker 1>you crashing their party, they'll spirit you away to their

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<v Speaker 1>underground Kingdom and never let you go. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>the area is on private properties. You'd be trespassing if

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<v Speaker 1>you go there. For a much safer fairy outing, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say head to Saint John's and take a tour of

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<v Speaker 1>Pippy Park. They have a woodland trail with fairy homes

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<v Speaker 1>scattered throughout, and the ones who lived there seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be much better behaved.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like that our sight seeing suggestions have highlighted

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<v Speaker 3>an extinct animal and now a mythological creature, respectively. So

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most practical travel advice guides here at

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<v Speaker 3>part time genius.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, whales and puffins are given, right, So we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking people off the beaten path.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that's right, especially given that Newfoundland is pretty

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<v Speaker 3>out of the way itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is not the easiest place to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually the eastern most part of Canada and of

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<v Speaker 1>North America in general, and if you do make the

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<v Speaker 1>trip out there, you're in for a one of a

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<v Speaker 1>kind experience. But before we take off for the day,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we do a quick fact off.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the most popular destinations in Newfoudland is

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<v Speaker 3>the area known as Iceberg Alley. It's the stretch of

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<v Speaker 3>the North Atlantic Ocean that runs along the eastern host

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<v Speaker 3>of the province. In every spring, it's host to a

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<v Speaker 3>slow parade of enormous ancient icebergs. Between four hundred to

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred icebergs pass through the alley each year, and

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<v Speaker 3>the vast majority of them come from ten thousand year

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<v Speaker 3>old glaciers. These are coming off of western Greenland. Now

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<v Speaker 3>during the spring and summer months, you can easily watch

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<v Speaker 3>the icy procession from all along Newfoundland's northern and eastern coast.

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<v Speaker 3>You can also book a boat tour or even go

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<v Speaker 3>scuba diving if you want to see them up close.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds incredibly cold. The best part is you can

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<v Speaker 3>take your time doing it because the average speed of

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<v Speaker 3>an iceberg zero point four miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>That is amazing and it does sound so cool, But

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<v Speaker 1>every time you say iceberg, I think of a boon

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<v Speaker 1>yang and that iceberg.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But if watching icebergs isn't your thing, you can also

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<v Speaker 1>try drinking one. Several companies in Newfoundland offer beverages made

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<v Speaker 1>with genuine, locally sourced iceberg water. They send out boats

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<v Speaker 1>to collect bits of ice that have broken off from

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<v Speaker 1>the berg, and once it's melted down, they use the

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<v Speaker 1>water in the production of specially wines, beer and spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's also good news if you like your drinks

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<v Speaker 1>on the rocks, because they also sell iceberg ice cubes.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, for myself, I don't think i'd feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>drinking an iceberg while looking at an iceberg. That just

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<v Speaker 1>seems very.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, somehow that feels off all right. Well, here's a

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<v Speaker 3>quick one about birthday celebrations. There In some parts of Newfoundland,

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<v Speaker 3>there's an old custom called grease face, which is just

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<v Speaker 3>fun to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Grease face.

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<v Speaker 3>It's where you sneak up on the birthday boy or

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<v Speaker 3>girl and smear a blob of grease on their nose. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's typically a parent who does the initial greasing, but

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<v Speaker 3>the other relatives and classmates or even teachers have been

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<v Speaker 3>known to join in throughout the day, which seems like

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<v Speaker 3>that would just get pretty old. But the messy practice

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<v Speaker 3>is thought to have originated in Scotland. There are a

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<v Speaker 3>few competing explanations as to what it's supposed to mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Some sources say the grease is to keep bad luck

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<v Speaker 3>from sticking to you in the year ahead. Others say

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<v Speaker 3>it's to help you sort of flied into the new

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<v Speaker 3>year in the same way you slid out of the womb.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I really don't want that many people touching my.

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<v Speaker 3>Face, especially that one grease It sounds horrible, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>if that wasn't weird and embarrassing enough, grease face is

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<v Speaker 3>often followed by another birthday custom called bumps. This is

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<v Speaker 3>when four people grab your legs and arms and lift

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<v Speaker 3>you up and down, bumping your butt on the floor

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<v Speaker 3>once for each year. This sucks as we get older,

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<v Speaker 3>and then again for good luck. So according to one

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<v Speaker 3>Newfoundlander quote, getting the bumps was done to each of

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<v Speaker 3>us as soon as we were old enough to walk,

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<v Speaker 3>and ended only when we could run faster or manage

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<v Speaker 3>somehow to avoid getting caught.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are all these good birthday customs also vaguely traumatic?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely are well.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a quick one to keep in mind when heading

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<v Speaker 1>to New Finland from the mainland. You have to set

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<v Speaker 1>your watch forward half an hour when you get there.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because the island actually has its very own

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<v Speaker 1>time zone. It's called New Finland Standard Time or NST.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one half hour ahead of Atlantic Standard time

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<v Speaker 1>and an hour and a half ahead of Eastern Standard Time.

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<v Speaker 1>The funny part is that, geographically speaking, most of the

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<v Speaker 1>province should technically be on Atlantic time, but the capital

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<v Speaker 1>of Saint John is a tiny bit east of the

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<v Speaker 1>dividing line, and since that's the island's largest population center,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else just follows their lead and pretends it's a

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<v Speaker 1>half an hour later.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you think of bespoke time zone as odd,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to like this next fact. So in the

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<v Speaker 3>remote Fogo Island, roughly nine miles off the coast of Newfoundland,

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 3>the locals recognize seven distinct seasons. In addition to the

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<v Speaker 3>Big four. They have berry season, which runs from September

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<v Speaker 3>first until Halloween. It's perfect time for foraging, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you have pack ice season, which is when ice

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<v Speaker 3>flows surround the island in the month of March, and

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<v Speaker 3>then finally in June, there's trap birth season, which is

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<v Speaker 3>when fishermen would traditionally stake out their fishing grounds for

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<v Speaker 3>the year by placing stationary nets or cod traps there. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you think seven seasons has a lot to keep

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<v Speaker 3>track of, keep in mind that Fogo Islanders claim the

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<v Speaker 3>true count is closer to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to mainland explain Fogo Island, but that

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<v Speaker 1>feel like way too many seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on board with seven. You can't have.

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<v Speaker 1>More seasons than you have months. But I do like

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<v Speaker 1>that you have something to look forward to, and I

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<v Speaker 1>like that you were able to loop things back to

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<v Speaker 1>Cod one more time. So I think you got today's trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>It does always come back to Cod, the first fish

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<v Speaker 3>in the hearts of the Newfoundlanders, and now in mine

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I am still a goldfish man myself, but that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. For today's Part Time Genius from Mary Gabe, Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>Will and myself. Thank you so much for listening. If

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<v Speaker 1>first in your hearts or any cool facts about Newfoundland

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