WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Little Brother Speaks On Early Beginnings, 9th Wonder, Documentary + More 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.600 Wait till answer up in the morning, The Breakfast Club Morning. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.520 Everybody's thej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy. We are 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:10.760 the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.000 Yes, indeed we got Little brother absolutely. 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:14.480 Big Pool. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:18.079 How y'all brother's feeling Man good Man were alive, so 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:23.240 you can afore thankful, thankful they got the new documentary, 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.800 Made a Lord Watch the Little Brother's Story. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:31.360 Why that title, I mean, first it we started this 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.200 when we were making the album Made a Little Watch 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.320 twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, So this was kind of like 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:41.200 to bring into that era and it just made sense. 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.080 It just really made sense, like thinking about everything that 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.839 we kind of went through and survived, the Lord had 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.760 to be watching over us. There was no other fucking explanation. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.080 I So no, man, that was just kind of felt 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.320 just felt like a conclusion of that chapter. And yeah, 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.320 five years in the making. Man. So it's out now 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:58.880 on YouTube. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:00.480 But let's let's talk from the begin and for people 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.279 that don't know who Little Brothers and how you got 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.120 together and how you met, which is pretty dope. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:09.319 You your brothers met at HBCU. Absolutely Carolina unc University. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:14.280 Shout out Eagle pride, This Durma Carolina nineteen Well, I 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.560 came in ninety seven. I came in ninety eight. We 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.840 met in ninety eight. In ninety eight where we met. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.839 You're from Rialley, Virginia. From Virginia to Old Diminion's supposed 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.200 to go to. My wife went to Older Minion. She 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.959 graduated mo Old Dominion. That's that's how I know I. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.839 Still got my ID from when I went to orientation. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:29.959 You still got the ID. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.880 I want to tell your mama though, why you why 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:32.880 you waited till the day. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:39.680 Before exaggerated fam. It wasn't the day before, it was 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:44.319 a week before. Nah, I mean that was that was 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.040 my first big decision, as you know, an eighteen year 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.800 old was was making that decision. And I mean she 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.680 let me make the decision for myself. But it's still 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.120 my mom, you know what I mean. Like I don't 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:56.800 cuss in front of my mama to this day, you 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.160 know what I mean. But nah, I mean, but still 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:00.760 it's just it's one of the things like I have 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.440 a healthy fear. My mom is so. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.640 Healthy healthy fear. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.680 My mom got Napoleon complex man, She not. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.079 Like HBCUs because I mean, you go to it was free. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.680 It wasn't the HBCU thing. It was the I was 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.040 gonna be staying with living with my uncle, so her brother. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.760 So she knew, like, Yo, you're good, good, You're down 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.400 there with family. None of us had been to Durham, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.040 North Carolina. None of us had heard of North Carolina Central. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.639 So for her it was just a shock, like what 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.440 what where you going? I thought you was gonna be 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:31.880 you know where I had a hand on you. So 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.320 she went to that. Nah, my mom didn't go to college. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.840 She went to she went to nursing school, go to college. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.760 But so yeah, so it was just one of the 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.760 things where it happened. I literally got in Central. It 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.520 happened in like a week, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.760 Like the whole process from asking to do you want 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.960 to go to me doing paperwork and it happened in 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.080 like a week. So it was just moving and I 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:00.320 was like, oh, ship, I'm in there. I'm going Okay, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.200 now I gotta tell me mom. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.359 I would think she'd be happy. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.560 She was happy, that's the thing, Like she was happy 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.399 for me. But it was just the thing of this 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:13.160 isn't where we thought you were. This wasn't plan I had, 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.440 this is this is your plan now now I think 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.200 it was the realization of it goes from my plan 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.840 for you to your plan for you control anymore. And 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.440 I'm her you know, I'm her youngest son. So it 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.040 was just one of the things of like ship, I 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.960 gotta let go now, and so that's what it was. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.240 So he got to college and you guys met each other. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.920 So talk about that process. How you guys met. I 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.600 know a lot of this is actually domary, but how 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.800 you guys met and what attracted you guys together and 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.640 then you started this rap group that became underground Legends. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.360 Man, it was, uh, it was very organic. I met 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.840 pool well first, I met ninth. We met uh what 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.520 we I think I met? We met first ninety eight? Yeah, 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.800 we met night. Yeah, so yeah, we met through a 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.560 mutual friend. Uh nine was on campus and and he 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.040 was we was moving in the dorm. Like we saw 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.040 each other from the dorm and uh over Source magazine 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.680 we started chopping up all this is in the dock. 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.720 But long story short, we basically just kind of started, 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.160 you know, working together. This was at a time when 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:16.960 you know, it was at the time this is like 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.160 ninety eight, So this is when no limit is like 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.559 killing everything, especially up. Yeah, so hbce you no limit 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.200 at Like the Ghetto d album dropped my freshman year, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.880 that was all you heard in every room, like we 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:36.560 was bumping that shit. Nonock body listen what listen man? 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.400 We ran ghetto dope. So but so everybody was pumping that. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.840 So if you were a kid that was into like 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.920 raucous or soundbomb, like, you know, meeting someone else that 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:47.720 was into that that was kind of rare, you know 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.479 what I mean. So when you met somebody that was 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.200 on that same wave, if it's like, oh shit, I 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.280 found my people. So we just kind of linked up 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.000 and just started making records and people are out there. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.920 When he said Ruckus Ruckus record, you got to tell 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.760 him because somebody potentializing because this was the label that 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.120 you know, I would lyrical, miracle, spiritual. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:12.160 Very criminal, umbilical, that type of thing. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.719 You can't help it break down, they said, rockets. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.320 Somebody might not know what it was. You know, it 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.920 was very much. They were like it was an underground label, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.279 but it was you know, I mean most quality. You know, 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.159 it was like pretty much all Eminem was on Rocket 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.360 sound Bomb. Yeah. So so they were just you know, 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.680 putting out amazing stuff that we really enjoyed, and so 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.599 we just kind of started making records, put some stuff 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.280 up on the internet, and uh, you. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.000 Just sounds like today. I don't know, how would you 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:46.680 describe it sound today like now? 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.600 It's not the same, it's not the same, but it's 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.560 still us. It's still us. It's weird, it's like our 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.719 sound has evolved musically, but it's still sound like Little Brothers, 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.120 like one I had after our last album came out 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.560 maylod Watch and then we just put out two singles 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.960 last October October with Wish Me Well in Glory, Glory 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:13.120 September September, September I'm Bad. And one of the biggest 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.240 compliments we got was that somebody said, Yo, I can 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.920 make an LB playlist from y'all stuff twenty years ago 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.440 to now, and it sounds like y'all haven't missed a beat. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.120 I can't tell that it's dated. It doesn't sound it 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.640 still sounds timeless, and that was something I think we 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.040 always strive for. So that's if I had describe it, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.160 I would just say it's timeless. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:31.840 Can I ask you a question about just being from 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.160 the South. When you first it is random. When you 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.560 first heard Ghetto Dope, right then, you think it was 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:37.280 kind of blaspheming. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.880 It's just a little bit, just a little yo. I 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:40.520 love the song. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:46.080 I was yelling too hard man, right right, dude, man man, 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.599 I played man ghetto Dope that I played. We ran 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.000 that whole album trying to do something that Moby Dick 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.480 was doing all the hooks I could. I was the rappers. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:59.520 You paused worthy people, this is the album. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:09.640 Oh no, that's explainable with bourbons and lax uh weak 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.520 man comment. We ran the album left the right man, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.160 So nah, it was we didn't really. I didn't think 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.720 of it as blasphemous. I just thought it was I 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.240 looked at his peep paying homage to that era, you 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:21.760 know what I'm saying, paying homage to Ride and all 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.880 of them. So I love that album. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.560 But you guys also came out in the era where 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.800 the DJ and the producer was part of the group, right, yeah, yeah, sure, 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.680 whether it was of course running m c J J, 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:44.760 Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff step Ninth Wonder was part 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.360 of Little Brother in the beginning. Yeah, he's not here now, 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.080 So what's the relationship with ninth wonders? They're no more relationship. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.480 There's no more relationship. But there's no no. I mean 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.200 we talked about it in the dot, but no, we're 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.200 just separate entities, you know what I'm saying. That we 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.520 came in the game together, but we're little brother, he's 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.520 ninth one, and we're just separate entity that we coexist peacefully, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.760 you know what I mean. And that's just what it is. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.760 But I didn't participate in the doctor because I mean, 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.680 this is the little brother's story. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.040 That's a question for him. 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.280 Yeah, yeah, you know, but like I would like to 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.720 have heard his perspective of it now as what did 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:17.520 y'all reach out to it? 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.080 We absolutely, yeah, we reached out, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.400 Made it clear that you know, it wasn't this wasn't 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.720 gonna be a hit piece. We wasn't coming for nobody next. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.920 You know, we're just telling our story in just a beautiful, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.520 honest way, and he just shows me how to participate, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:30.600 and that's his right too. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.440 I feel like y'all set them up nights, especially when 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.520 you first told the early story about I forgot what 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:36.960 album it was. But it was an album I think 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.000 it was awful rock, yeah, right, produced by DJ Premier, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.280 and he was like, yo, that's what I want to 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.080 be in one of y'all encourage him, like, yo, you can. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.160 Be that absolutely absolutely. Yeah. Man, we were always I mean, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.280 we're coming up. I mean, you gotta keep in mind, like, dude, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.000 we like nineteen twenty years old. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.640 I mean we you know, we're just trying to figure 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.680 out let alone, trying to figure out how to be artists, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.400 I figure out how to be men. Yeah, you know 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.600 what I mean. Like, so, you know, trying to figure 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.720 out all that stuff at the same time. I mean, man, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.720 it's you know, it's it's tough. So but yeah, but 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.640 we tried to tell the story just as honestly as 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.640 you as we could. And but you know, we can't 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.760 speak for another person. We can only tell our experience, 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.839 and so he chose not to And that's is right. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.680 What made y'all want to do the documentary right now? 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.079 Is it anything other than the fact that y'all. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:26.320 Years in the game, I mean twenty years but uh now, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.320 I mean we talked about it. We just wanted to 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.400 tell our story, our way. You know. We didn't want 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:35.920 it to be uh, you know, unsung or told by 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.680 somebody else, you know what I mean, or you know, 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.760 so they can pick their angle, their slant or whatever. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.840 And we wanted to be our story, our voices, our way, 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.360 and so we said, let's do it, and we just 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.280 started the journey. We didn't know what we was doing, 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:51.040 but we started the journey twenty eighteen, and it just 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:55.640 took us time to kind of figure out the story 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.920 we wanted to tell and how we wanted to tell it. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.440 And I think the pandemic actually helped us trum endlessly 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:05.040 because that version of the movie now is that's the 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.880 third version trying to try to knock it down, and 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.600 it's just very It's something that you know, with documentaries, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.280 I mean, they're tough, and I think a lot of 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.120 filmmakers they would try to do docs because they think 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.800 that it's easier because you're telling a factual story, you 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.079 know what I mean. But it's like, even if you're 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.000 telling a factual story, it still has to be compelling 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.320 and you still have to arrange those facts in a 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.320 compelling way, because if you're just telling facts, that's not 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.680 a movie that's a fucking book report, Like nobody wants 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.160 to see that, you know what I mean, You have 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.920 to give a story. And so our partners on it, 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.079 Holland Gallagher who's our director, and jo Phillips who's our writer, 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.120 they really were our partners in it, and they're younger 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:48.880 than us, and so we thought it was important to 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.000 have people who were from a different generation to kind 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.800 of catch a lot of the blind spots that we 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.600 make not have solved, and we thought that was important, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.240 and so they came in and they really helped kind 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.440 of shape the narrative because they were looking at this 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.480 they weren't super fans of us, and that was something 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.320 that we did not want. We didn't want someone that 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.200 was the ultimate Little Brother fan making this movie because 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.000 they feel like they already know the story and if they, 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.360 you know, you you dead in the water then and 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.200 that's just not the way documentary works. So they really 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.480 came in and were able to just you know, tell, 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.160 We told our stories, We did our interviews, the interviews, 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:28.280 we shot our personal interviews everyone else. We gave the 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.760 questions beforehand, like cause you know, it's you know, my 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.319 grandmother rest in peace. Our mother's homies. You know what 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.160 I'm saying. It's not like you're working with actors. You 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.319 working with people, you know what I mean. So you 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.640 got to give them time to kind of think what 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.680 you want to say. So we gave them all the 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.320 questions beforehand, and then when it came time for me 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.040 in Pooh interview, we told Holland and Yo, like, yo, bro, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.920 we don't want nothing, just get in get in here. 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.560 Whatever you ask one take one shot. That's what it is. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.120 And so that's that's that's what y'all got. 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.640 You see evolution in it. I mean you see dark 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.800 skinning Leonard in there, absolutely. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:10.959 Living with the hair like that sounds like he was 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:12.040 like look. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.240 I was like, oh my god, you look like one 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:13.559 of the kids. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:21.839 Lean on me. What's the club? What year was that too? 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.719 That was as show? That was a five five? It 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:27.840 was five, I remember it was a five. That was 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.880 the on We talked about it briefly on q LS, 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.400 but yeah, that was the only interview that I missed 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.199 because when we had to do that that run, I 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.079 think your son, Yeah, that was when my son, the 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.040 son was born. So it was just me and Knife 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.240 on that run every time I see that, I think 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.080 about it, because I wouldn't as polished as I am 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:56.600 now doing interviews. I was like, b T, I. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.559 Don't know I'm gonna work there, irying to dance around. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:07.280 I ain't worked there. What it was like? Nah no, No, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.120 that was that was funny. That was that was blast 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.600 from the past. It was five. It was on five. 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.600 So when ninth one that got the call from Hole 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.480 to work with him and Hope started doing production, do 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.280 you think that production area kind of dismantled the group 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:21.559 a lot? 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.520 Absolutely not. Nah No, Man, like we we we was happy. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.160 We was excited for him, you know, I mean, like 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.840 ship we got to go to baseline and hear it 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.079 before it came out there with Hole and all that. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.360 But nah, we was we knew it. That's a big opportunity. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.160 It is fucking jay z, you know what I mean, Like, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.040 come on, man, you want stuff for your team like 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.480 you want you know, if you know, studying hip hop, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.000 most of the big producers they get their starting groups. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.560 So we just saw it's just a natural progression, you 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.400 know what I mean. So yeah, it was amazing just 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.840 to know that, you know, one of your homies can 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.680 make a beat. On his laptop and it ends up 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.360 with jay Z rapping over. I mean that ship was like, 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.360 oh my, like what you know what I'm saying, And 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.440 it really it really for us was for me, it 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.720 was a sign of the kind of the changing of 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:12.520 the guard in terms of what constituted studio quality, you know, 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.320 because for a long time, you know, you had to 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.280 have When people thought of a studio, they thought of 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.520 it as like, okay, it's this big, the big boards 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.200 and like these big you know, big consoles and big 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:26.240 speakers and everything, and beat makers were pretty much thought 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:30.040 of as you know, like hardware. But for him to 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.640 make something, you know, on a laptop, I mean that 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.760 was the beginning of software. You know. He really pioneered that, 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.040 you know what I mean. So now with him with 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.520 fruity loops and now, I mean that's pretty much kind 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.400 of the standard with cats making records on machine and 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.960 ableton and stuff like that, and so it really was 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.480 it was validation for us. I mean, we made our 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.920 first album literally in you know, a friend's apartment, you 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.600 know what I'm saying with the mic, like the mic 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.480 we recorded listening, it wasn't as good as this mike. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.680 It wasn't even this. It was like a little like 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.920 a little three hundred dollars carnival. Yeah, yeah, we had 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.280 like a little little joint on it, but described yeah, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.200 that was what it was. And you know what I mean. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.080 And so but we did it. And I guess the 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.760 lesson for me was just that, you know, as long 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.760 as you have a taste, there is there aren't really 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.600 no rules in music. You just have to have a 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.600 degree of taste that can translate to an audience and 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.440 if you can make it make sense to them and 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.840 they get it, and that's really all you need. And 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.000 we were able to do that with very limited means. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.920 And so I'm just I'm just thankful. Why why why? 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:30.440 YouTube? 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.000 That was the other thing I was wondering, Like, you know, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.800 did y'all even try to shop into like who Netflix? 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:40.080 Anybodyuh? The writers of Stranger Things were on strike, nah, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:44.360 I mean in love Craft Countries on TV absolutely today. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:49.560 Yeah you know what I mean. I did Apollott Marathon 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.520 the other night, like straight out of comptent on TV. Yeah. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.800 I think for us because people always ask that question, right, 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.360 and first to start off as a joke like this 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.000 shit up on YouTube, but then we start thinking about 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.240 it like, that's exactly that's what it's going. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:05.400 Like. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.920 I know seven year olds who stay on YouTube. I 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.440 know sixty nine year olds who stay on YouTube. So 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.560 for us, it was just like, all this shit is 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.320 on the internet. It's all the same the internet to 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.840 the same Internet. So the objective here was I was 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.520 talking to a homier mine. I was just like, you know, 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.240 He's like, yo, I got this project. I don't know 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.480 what I should do. I said, listen, what's your objective? 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.680 Are you trying to be validated by one of these companies? 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.440 Are you looking for the bag? Or do you want 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.080 people to see this shit? We wanted people to see 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.880 our documentary. So the easiest way is you can anybody 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.480 can go up on YouTube. You can watch You don't 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.800 gotta watch it in one seton and explain how my 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.760 mama had a log into YouTube. Everybody knows how to 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:46.440 go on YouTube. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:50.080 You can watch it on the phone, our path. 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.440 Any anywhere. And then also what we saw because we 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.640 came into the industry of three when we signed the Atlantic, 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.800 we saw how the music industry was changing real time. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.520 We was part of it. We're seeing the same thing 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.960 happen right now for film and television. Ain't nobody trying 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.159 to get caught up in that bullshit? Nah? Now, so 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.080 I'm not trying to be banging trying to get the 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.960 masters for my movie back in ten years, like getting 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.800 the fuck out of here, you know what i mean. So, yeah, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.760 it was really you know, YouTube was it was the 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.919 only platform that spoke directly to the Little Brother's story, 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.840 you know what I'm saying. You know, we were one 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.919 of the first rap groups to go viral at a 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.399 time when no one even knew what that was or 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.120 even how to monetize it, you know what I'm saying, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.080 because it was just so early, you know what I mean. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.679 And so a big part of that had to do 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.199 with people being able to freely access our music, and 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.040 it was something that was shared. And we just thought 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.240 that our movie, you know, about our music and about 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.160 our lives, it had to be experienced in that same way. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.399 You know. We put it out and you know, we 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.879 dropped it on Black Friday on YouTube, and you know, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.760 we did the premiere on YouTube and my man shot, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.600 my man, Devin Morrison, he hit me was like, yo, bro, 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.800 I'm about to stream this join on my Twitch channel. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.480 Pull up, I said, helly, your nigga, let's go, you 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.119 know what I mean. So I jumped on this Twitch 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:08.720 you know what I mean, he's screening it. I'm in 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.760 the chat like knowledge is in the chat shot to 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.840 him like we all just chopping it up. And you know, 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.520 that was just a kind of communal experience that we 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.560 would not have been able to have had we tried 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.240 to do it in a traditional way, you know what 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.960 I mean Like that, you know that just really it 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.479 just felt true to who we were and who we are, 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.000 and so that was that was why we decided to 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:28.520 go with YouTube. 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.880 Even getting introduced to y'all via the internet. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.600 You know, South Carolina was right there by North Carolina, 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.919 but I heard about y'all be online. People don't not 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:43.920 understand how big All hip Hop dot Com was. Listen listens, yes, man, 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.239 not realize how big that ship was? 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.840 Nah man, All hip Hop s o hh okay players. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.399 I mean that really was just kind of your really 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.000 just you know, where you found out about music, you 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:57.760 know what I'm saying, Just where all the stuff you 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.639 can kind of see on the come up, that was 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.360 where you found it. And you know, back to the film, Yeah, 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.840 we just kind of saw like, now we have the 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.679 opportunity to go direct to consumer in a way that 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.800 we didn't have in two thousand and three. Like if 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.000 I mean shit, if man we would have had band 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:14.720 Camp in two thousand and three, I wouldn't sign no 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.720 fucking regularly in a rap What would have made Little 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:17.679 Brother bigger? Though? Right? 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:21.600 Because you talked to rappers, and for most rappers, some 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.520 of them will say you're one of their favorite groups, right, 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:25.720 But a lot of the fans, a lot of the 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.160 people that listen might not have heard Little Brother, Right, 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.480 What do you think would have made Little Brother bigger? 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.280 If it would have been maybe signing to a Ruckus 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.560 that concentrates directly on underground music, it would have been, 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.800 you know, a Cotch Records that's definitely under Like, what 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.720 do you think would have made it made you guys bigger? 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.280 I don't know. It's that's a tricky question because, like 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.520 I said, the industry was changing at the time. So, 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.960 you know, for us, I always say we was we 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:56.840 was after the rockous era, but we was before you 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.280 know whatever. We were the bridge the bridge from from 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.719 that to you know, like the Colds and the Kindreds 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.959 and all of them. So I don't know if it 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.000 was in the cars for us to be bigger. Honestly, 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.919 I think we are. Yeah, we was the lead blockers, 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:12.719 you know what I mean, Like you know, we was, 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.119 you know, we was to take out the linebacker like 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.760 it wasn't necessarily you're not gonna get the glory. You're 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.879 not gonna get the touchdown. You're not gonna you gotta 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:25.040 do your job, do your job well, and you'll be remembered, rewarded, 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.720 honored for that, you know what I mean, respected for that. 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.000 And so yeah, I don't I don't know if bigger 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.000 was in the cars for us, honestly because I know 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.320 who we are, you know what I mean, and you 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.280 know and I know who we are is I don't 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.879 know if that's conducive. No, it wasn't like I remember 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.080 having I remember Minister Show came out and we did. Uh, 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:47.600 I think what was the first week. It was like 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.920 eighteen eighteen and something like that, you know what I mean, 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.760 eighteen thousand records and you know back then that was 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:57.879 just your worst Yeah, straight up, but you said eighteen 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:03.439 thousand now, like thank you man. But I remember like 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.639 we did it and it came out and I remember 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.600 talking to a mirror shout shouts to the mirror, man, 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.240 that's that's big bro for real. And you know, he 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.680 was saying, he was like, listen, man, y'all gonna have 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.080 to go crazy, like y'all gonna have to perform at 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.600 the label. Y'all gonna have to do this, like y'all 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.639 gonna have to you know, even in the lobby, like 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.760 y'all gonna have to do this, do this. And the 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:25.879 thing was he was right, he was absolutely right. And 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.239 I just talked to I remember, had a conversation. We 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.359 were just like, we ain't doing that ship. I'm like, 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:33.400 I just made an album called The Mistress. You think 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:34.760 I'm about to be in a label dance. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:37.280 I'm not. 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.479 You know, that's just not who we all up at 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:44.639 your label in the video. Nah. So you know, it 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.800 was just one of those things. And it's really just 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.920 as an artist, you know, throughout our journey, you really 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.800 just have to decide what's for you and what's not 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.480 and the things that are for you. You know, I 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.159 tell her all the time, you can't ever look at 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.880 someone's success and and you know think that, Okay, that's 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.000 what I want because you don't know the price that 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:05.920 they paid for that success, you know what I mean, 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:07.919 You don't you know, that may not be something that 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.160 you're willing to do, or it just may not be 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.399 it may not align with who you are as a person. 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.440 And so I think the biggest lesson for us, which 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.640 is the beauty of this era now, which I think 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.200 a lot of artists don't get. You know, they're frustrated 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.200 because it's like, man, it's just so much content, is 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.960 so much to compete with everything. But the beautiful thing 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.919 about it for us is that you have the ability 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.399 to go direct the consumer and whatever it is that 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.800 you're into, you can just find an audience around that. 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:35.480 It's like the difference between you know, in our era, 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.199 it was trying to hit a moving target. It was 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.760 trying to hit a moving bullseye, and this era is 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.000 just you fire a shot and wherever it lands, you 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.000 just paint the target around that bullet. You know what 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.680 I'm saying. You just you know, and that's what we've 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:52.200 been able to do. And it just makes for in us, 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:53.960 you know, it makes for better art and just mix 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:55.600 for happier people. 0:22:56.200 --> 0:23:00.440 Also stopped when the game shifted to every then y'all 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.640 already was on like like, y'all, it was like nine 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:08.359 years between projects, right. Twenty ten is when you really 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.440 got introduced to the Kendricks and the Coles and the Drakes. 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:12.359 That was y'all. 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:13.240 That's y'all energy. 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.640 Like you said, y'all, they all was inspired by you 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:16.840 what y'all was doing. 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:18.160 But y'all stopped. 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.399 Yeah, I mean that was that was That was definitely 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.360 a frustration of mine. Was just like we fought so 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.760 hard to get up that proverbial heel and we got 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.560 up there, it was like, all right, we're done. It 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:31.520 was yeah, because you had that moment like you just 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:32.840 you know there moment. 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.120 Brot this night show. 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.320 Yeah, I know this audience, My audience is laughing with me. 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:40.680 They're not laughing at me, you know what I mean. 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.800 But no, it was very much that. I remember we 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:46.679 did a show, our last LA show. This is what 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:51.159 before we broke official. This was twenty teeny Yeah, twenty Kendrick. 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.480 Kendrick is in the doc It's a Sexual with Me, 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.080 Kendrick and ap So that was from that show. We 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.560 had Kendrick opening on that show. It open, and that 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.080 was like we were in the worst shape ever, we 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.040 were like we weren't even talking. We wasn't even it 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.199 was the energy was just it was just foul. And 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:12.040 I remember like Kendrick coming up afterwards and he was like, Yo, man, 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:13.960 I fuck with y'all. I'm a big fan, Like let's 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.680 link whatever. I'm like, yeah, bro, like cool, you know, 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:18.479 DApp him up, game home. I'm like, love what you do. 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.080 And like that was it. But I really know, we 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:24.000 look back on it now and it was really you know, 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.000 I just hate that. I wish they could have seen 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.400 us in a better place because by that time twenty ten, 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.040 we was just over like this shit. We ain't like 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.000 each other. We was side of the game and everything. 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:34.600 It was like, gotch What got you to. 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.520 The point where the group boys cool anymore? 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.439 Weren't communicating? Yeah, we had different goals. We didn't know 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.159 how to communicate. I'll say that, like, you know, we 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.800 didn't have the tools or at the time. I mean, 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:48.000 look yeah, because I mean you got to think about it, 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:49.720 and I and I think about this for all the time, 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.560 Like with artists like now, like the younger generation, they 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:54.800 keep thinking of, Okay, I want to go viral, like 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.080 going viral and like dude, A lot of times that 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:00.280 shit is not what you think it is. It's like, 0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.240 you know what I'm saying. It really it can be 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:03.960 the kiss of death sometimes, you know what I mean. 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:07.440 And so for us, you know, back then, this is 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:11.200 two thousand and two, you know whatever. You know, we 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:15.440 went viral and so your music goes further and faster 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.359 than you have the time to develop as a person, 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:22.400 you know what I mean. And so it's like, bruh, 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.399 this again. Me and Pool knew each other a grand 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:29.080 total of probably what two years before we got signed, 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.560 So we didn't know each other, you know what I mean. 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.480 And again, it's one thing to be like, this is 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.800 my man, like we in the calf, we kicking it, 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.440 we in the room, freestyling. But to go from this 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.080 is my man to now this is my business partner 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:47.520 and we are contractually bound together. That sucks, dude, you 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.320 know what I meant. I mean, looking back, you didn't 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.520 realize it then when you in it, But looking back, 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.439 you're like, yo, that was a fucking lot. Like that 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.840 was a lot. We was trying to navigate together. We 0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:04.679 didn't know each other really honestly, and we didn't know 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.520 the game. We didn't know shit. 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.640 And personal lives y'all. 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.560 Yeah, I had two kids. Yeah my boys were young 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.919 at the time, but yeah, it was we was a 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.600 lot were trying to figure out. So we just didn't 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.639 have the time the tools to really know how to 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.840 communicate with each other to understand what was going on. 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.359 Like shit, we didn't know each other. So like even now, 0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.880 my big thing is I need to understand why right 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.320 your answer is your answer. But if I understand you, 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.439 I know why you answered that way, So now I 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.440 know ship he going to say and why he gonna 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.359 say it before I even asked the question. But I 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.919 didn't know that then, so he didn't know that about me. 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.800 So to be things where in the doc we talk 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.280 about to learn each other, Yeah, it's like doing the labels. 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.600 So when we got off Atlantic, we had Capitol Records, 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.679 one of the signers, I was talking with Shaka Zulu's assistance. 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.280 We were supposed to met with Shaka, so we had 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:03.080 all these things moving after we got off Atlantic. But 0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.399 he don't understand why I'm like, shit, let's give it 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.520 another go. And I don't understand why he like, fuck 0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.000 that shit, I'm off that Like I do my own thing. 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.239 So just not having that understanding and not knowing how 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.520 to talk to each other. Man, that was I tell 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:18.639 people all the time. And it's not just in a 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:23.480 relationship with a partner's spouse, significant other, it's all your relationships. 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.159 If you don't know how to communicate and talk and 0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:31.200 actually listen, because communication listening, if you don't know how 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.399 to do that, that shit gonna it's not gonna end 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.399 up well. And that's kind of where we was. 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.720 We can't be afraid to talk though, like you got to. 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.480 You gotta know, you can fix your phone up to 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.520 all your people say what you need to say, and 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.280 even if they feel a way, that's still gonna be 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:47.480 a people. 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.479 And I think this generation now, you know, like I mean, 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.199 it's my boys, my sons are. They're twenty three and 0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.440 I was at twenty three and eighteen. And the thing 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:59.960 I noticed to their generation, they are they're far more 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.520 emotionally uh intelligent than we are, in tune than we are, 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.000 you know what I mean, Like they got they got 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.680 all the TikTok terms and the therapy term like these 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.280 niggas know all that shit, you know what I mean. 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:14.800 So yeah, they're they're far more emotionally. Uh, you know, 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.960 avaible to gotta remember we came up off the a 0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.640 man gotta be a man and you don't show your 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:27.359 feelings and you don't cry. Do that work? That is 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.879 not that don't work? That don't work. And know what 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.120 you was saying, Sean, like about the just that time, 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.160 like you said, we left kind of before that wave. 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.119 You know that nine year span that span from twenty 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.640 ten to twenty nineteen. You know when we came back. 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.520 You know, that just gave us time to grow up. 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.440 You know what I'm saying. And you know it's it 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.320 was a bill that was gonna it was comeing, do 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.040 you know what I mean? So it's like we paid 0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.600 it then. You know we needed those nine years because 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.760 we had such a quick kind of ascension. But yeah, 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.280 we just needed that time to just grow up. 0:28:56.360 --> 0:29:00.280 I saw Donald Glover say recently that all new, most 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.320 most new rappers now, and I think he's kind of 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.200 meant like that generation that started in twenty ten. Yeah, 0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.920 we're because of Kanye. I would say, Kanye and little brother. 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.920 Absolutely what I would absolutely yeah, man, Kanye was Uh, 0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:17.320 we had got Kanye. He first came to Durham two 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.120 thousand and four. Three four, yeah, three or four. It 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:24.080 was before uh I think College Dropout came out. It 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:32.160 was because get oh yeah, yea, yeah, that might have 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.040 been two three something. It might have been three then yeah, 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.040 three he it was before College Dropout. The Yeah, and 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.400 he had at the time the records that was bubbling. 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.880 He had the stand up by Ludicros that was out, 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.520 and he was about to put out the dis Way 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.280 record he had did with Dilated People's but he was 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.640 in Durham doing some kind of like conference or whatever, 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.120 and so he was there and you know, this is 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.440 before anything. Like he's just you know, chilling, and he 0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.600 just would walk around just like wrapping out of nowhere. Okay, 0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:05.280 my knig you find Kanye and Fonte is like like 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.160 he would just be rather like bro. But and I 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.280 thought he was you know, acting, you know what I mean. 0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:15.000 But now you know, twenty plus years later, it's claim like, yeah, 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.560 that wasn't an act. He's the same. It's just on 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.360 a higher platform exactly. But he's the same he's always been. 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.040 But yeah, but back then, we you know, we did shows, 0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.040 you know, we toured with him. Uh you know, we 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.720 opened up and everything and Yeah, man, it was a 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.280 it was a fun time, you know what I mean. 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.880 You know you could kind of see just him putting 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.680 the pieces together, and you could see him also really 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:44.040 kind of struggling with fame to some degree. Like I 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:49.440 remember we were at man, this was like south Beat. 0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.360 It was on the billboard hip hip hop boys. Yeah, 0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.240 we were in like southeast. He was in Miami for 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.400 like a weekend whatever, and he had his Rockefeller chain 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.239 and he was we was going to a club. We 0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:01.920 were going to club, and he would take his chain 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:03.680 out and you know, have his chain out in the club, 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.200 but then the minute we left, he would tuck it 0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.480 back in. And that was just something that I always saw, 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.880 you know, when you speak, you know, you ask about 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.800 you know, why weren't we bigger? I think one of 0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.560 the things, Well, first of all, it was a choice. 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.800 It definitely was a choice. And that was something that 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:24.120 we really want to make clear in the documentary that 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.560 the Little Brother story is not a sad story at all, 0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.560 you know what I'm saying. You know, it was really 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.680 you know, choices that we made, and I think for me, 0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.720 I kind of had my you know, ghost of Christmas 0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.480 past present screwage kind of thing. And that I saw 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.920 a lot of these guys when they were kind of 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.560 on the come up and was able to kind of 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.800 see what fame if they did to him. Yeah, it 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.720 did to him or and I just you know, like 0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.720 they were just you know, prisoners or some of me. 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.360 But to see the effect that had on their lives 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.600 and how they had to really live. It wasn't just yeah, 0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.840 everyone wants the money, everyone wants that, but that ain't 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:01.479 all it come with. 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:04.800 You know, being scared of fame is just not wanting 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:05.360 to get robbed. 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:07.400 Well, I mean it was probably a little bit. 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.640 Like he wasn't an image that you have to have 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:12.560 in certain places. 0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:17.560 Leave that it's over. And because I mean because when 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.360 we was when he was like kicking it with us, 0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.400 I mean we just we just kicked it. We're just 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.040 kicking it. But when the camera's on, he knew how 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:28.560 to become Kanye. I gotta I gotta be me a 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.640 different way, much a different way. Yeah, amplified version of 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.920 who I am without the lights in the camera. The 0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.680 little brother wasn't willing to perform nah nah man, because 0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.400 that's not that's not you know, this is a long game. 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:46.080 First of all. That's just exhausting, fam and unsustainable, very unsustainable. 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:47.360 You burn out quick. 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.320 But y'all have always shown y'all humor, especially in video. 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.320 But that's who we are naturally. Like who I am 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.959 in this interview is who I am when his interview 0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.080 is over, is who I am when I get on 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:00.800 this plane to go home. It is who I am 0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.560 when I get home, Like I am who I am. 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.520 And it's not, well, I talk to people when the 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.240 lights come on. I don't really talk to people when 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.480 the lights go off. But that's the difference. So I 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:13.120 don't like people. 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.640 That's why would you be in the room, dark room 0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:16.760 with strangers. 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:22.680 That that that not the conversation having not the conversations. 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.880 It's not the conversation. We're here for, no, man, I mean, 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.960 we just you know, I just saw, like when I 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:32.760 looked at a lot of the people that you know, 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.440 I looked up to in the game and looked at 0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.080 the people that were able to have that longevity, that 0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.160 was something that was always important to me, you know 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.000 what I'm saying, Really being able to stand the test 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.400 of time and be in the game. And you know, 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.360 this is a game where with music and just entertainment 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.800 just art in general. I really do believe that it's 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.000 a game that the longer you play, the luckier you get. 0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:53.719 You know what I'm saying, the longer you stay in it. 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.760 But you're only going to stay in it for a 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.920 long time if you're doing things that you enjoy, you 0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.680 know what I mean? You otherwise and like I don't 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.920 care like people they say, you know, looking from the outstanding, like, 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.800 oh man, if I had that opportunity, I would do anything. 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.680 I would do whatever I would And it's like. 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.720 Nah, says. 0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:24.239 Yo, listen man, seriously, and you have to you have 0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.440 to make those choice because it's this game like me 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.680 and Pool, like we was talking, you know in you know, 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.319 in the in the break room. You know, man, this 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.560 game it don't know what to do with niggas that 0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.759 ain't thirsty, Like they don't know what to do with that. 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:38.719 Like when you are not you know, the whole thing, 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.160 just oh yo, you do whatever. You know what I'm saying, 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.000 that's hungry. That's hungry. You gotta be hungry. That's not 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.800 I'll do whatever. That's not hunger. That's thirst You should 0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:49.520 never be thirsty. 0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.279 And what you're saying is so true, because when you 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.360 talk about these recording contracts or just contracts people be signing. 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.440 In general, you can't get somebody to sign some bullshit 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.840 if they're not extra thirsty, Like if they our leverage 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:04.080 and you know they don't need it, they'll negotiate what 0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:04.560 they want. 0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.680 People will negotiate with you, But that's if they have leverage. 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.120 But most of these contracts, especially back in the day, 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.080 you find somebody that got a little spark that wants 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.319 to be the next artist. They feel like that'll be 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.480 an opportunity for them, and they'll feel like, you know what, 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.520 I'll get to that opportunity and then I'll make it right. 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:20.440 But then they don't. 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.360 Realize they signed for ten years. 0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:31.160 Take advantage, take advantage of that naive man. There's a 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:34.520 story here. I feel like I feel like there's a story. 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:38.759 Here's who I am. 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.400 But they don't have nothing to do with what I'm 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.320 So I'm about to ask right now, what how important? 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.040 With all that being said, how important is like awards? 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.319 So you like, because you guys are very very very 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.960 stern on who y'all are, know that and like you 0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.960 said earlier, you don't know who you are? 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:57.239 Is conducive to some. 0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.440 Ship like this or you know, especially nowadays and the 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.239 thirst and universus hunger. 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:06.000 So how important are shows and like getting. 0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:10.560 Awards to man, I was I'll go first. I was 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.840 nominated my other group, the Foreign Exchange R and B group, 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:18.120 we were nominated for a Grammy in twenty ten, and 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.600 I had the opportunity to go to the Grammys and 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.479 really see what that experience was. And I think having 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:29.319 that experience just showed me like, yeah, this is kind 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.919 of a racket. Basically, I'm just keeping in a band. 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:33.680 Like that shit was. I mean, it was, you know, 0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.319 it was great to be honored. But again this is 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.560 just the behind the scenes stuff that people don't get, 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.680 you know what I mean. You know, when you go 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.919 to these shows first and foremost, you know, at least 0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.040 at that time, you know, you still gotta buy tickets, 0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.000 you still gotta pay for like this shit don't come 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.879 with a check at all. You can get out there 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:53.520 and you can try to make something shake on your 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:54.880 own if you want to do like I know, the 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.280 Routs they do their Grammy Jam session every year whatever, 0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:00.560 So if you want to kind of do that, you can. 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.279 But generally speaking, just as a nominee, like everything is 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.800 on you. So this is you know, you gotta. 0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.160 Pay to go to the Grammys if you're nominated. 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:14.359 Yeah, like tickets once you get buy a ticket there, 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.600 you get tickets for you. So at the time and 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.960 when they get some discount tickets, right, So it's like 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:20.799 so if it's me and you were me and him 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:24.000 just Grammy nominated, it's like, Okay, y'all get free tickets 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.319 to the show, but anyone you want to bring to pay, 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.080 y'all gotta pay, and we'll let you get it for 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.080 half off. But you still got to pay half off still, 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.600 like one hundred dollars. Oh no, no, no, that not at 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.160 the time. But I did it well, I know when 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.080 when I don't know what it is. When dream Bill 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.840 was nominated and Luke when he got a ticket. I 0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.520 think dog got a ticket, And I think any extra 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.920 tickets would have been like one hundred dollars or something. 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:49.320 It might have been more. I don't remember. 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:53.400 I know it was tickets even for the b tables 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.359 at some point, like you had to pay. Imber wanted 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.400 to go one year and I had to pay, like 0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:58.759 it was like three forty or something like that. 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.880 I didn't pay. Yeah, so we might've been getting a 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.520 super dupe you know at the time when I went 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.280 at the time when we went the tickets for the Grammys, 0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.040 and again this is twenty ten, so you know, I 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.160 don't know what is now, but yeah, it's twenty ten. 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.279 Like tickets for the Grammys, this was twelve hundred dollars 0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.920 a piece. And so in order for us to go, 0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:17.960 you know what I mean, we met me and Nick 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.520 Nicko l in my partner shops to him. We went 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.680 into Our tickets were free. But then everyone else, like 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.480 we brought you know, family, everybody, that was six hundred 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:29.160 dollars a pop, you know what I'm saying. So that's 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:32.880 twelve hundred one tickets. Then you got you know, hotels, flights, 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:34.960 like you know, we got bout clothes everything we had 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.640 to pay like a pr person, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.040 To like to talk about to walk through the red carpet, 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.880 to talk up your nomination and everything, and you know, 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.319 and I've never like we never talked about it. You know, 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:48.920 it was something that we didn't just have time to 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:50.839 get into the dock. But like, man, after I came 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.200 back from the Grammys, like Nigga had to take out 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.399 a loan. Yeah, I had to take out like a person. Alan, 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.520 I'm like, god, damn, I just spent by damn eight 0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.600 thousand dollars at this bitch, you know what I'm saying. 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.399 And so so for me so to rig a question 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:08.360 with the Awards, I think that and just in my 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.480 experience it was I was glad I got to see it, 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:16.560 but ultimately I'm just like, nah, I don't Yeah, I'm good, 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:21.080 I don't care and its yeah, And I mean, listen, 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.320 it's all, you know, to be nominated for a Grammy, 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.960 like to be you know, amongst you know, to sit 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.279 amongst you know, be in that room and see it. 0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.560 Like I'm watching the show and it's like Kenny g 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.680 Is like standing right there like same hair, like say everything. 0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.040 And that's another thing too with the Grammys, dude specifically, 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.080 like y'all watch it on TV at home and it's 0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:42.839 that ship like three hours, you know what I'm saying, 0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:47.920 It's longer, it's longer and with no and you it 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.440 ain't no. At the time when we went, the Staples 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:54.080 Center was like closing down, so like they have like 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.319 the pre Grammy brunch before and you know, you get 0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:59.160 a little food whatever, and then they take you over 0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.879 to the main hall to the Grammy ceremony, and all 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.600 the vendors in the Staples Center they shutting down. So 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.200 it's no food like it's niggas, Like it's niggas the 0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:11.920 for real. For hours. It was like one dude we 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.840 caught that had like the little uh he had like 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.040 some candy and ship. He had like you know, little 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:21.040 snicker bars and damn Eminem's and ship. So we bought 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:22.960 like a couple, like a bag of eminems and some 0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.080 snickers and ship were sitting in that bitch got damn 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.759 taking the eminem's, passing the ship down. And I'm like, 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:29.640 niggas is supposed to be music great this night and 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.400 don't even got them eminem's in the Staples Center, not 0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.200 when we went. I'm just telling I've never been to 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.480 the Grammars, but I've been to a BT Hip Hop 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:43.240 Awards and it was about damn recording. That was about 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:48.160 five hours and I was like. 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.040 No food. 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:48.480 We went. 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:49.160 I walked out. 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:53.279 I left taking too long, man, Oh my god, he 0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:54.560 really left like we supposed present. 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.200 He was like, I'm giving y'all ten minutes there all 0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:59.720 day like, nah, that's. 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:03.960 Really I I'm like, you know, love, I'm like, yeah, 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:05.960 I'm not beating for none of that stuff, no, man. 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.239 And I mean like for me, you know, yeah, it'd 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.279 be cool to be nominated for a Grammy. I ain't 0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.680 never been nominated. But at the end of the day, 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:19.080 it's hey, look, I'm I can't be somewhere too long 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.040 and not just say what the fuck I need to say. 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.960 So listen, I just don't go to places where I'm 0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:26.560 going to be there a long time because. 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:27.239 You might have to say something. 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.600 It might have to say something and let me tell 0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.480 you the truth. Yeah, and then learning kind of learning 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.359 what all this is, you know what I mean, Like 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.160 it's a campaign. It's a campaign. It's not a meritocracy. 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.000 Like the minute you and that was I guess the 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.080 thing for me. But once I saw that, you know, 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:45.000 it was really you know, it's super political, it's super 0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.320 you know who you know, like it's a lot of 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.680 those things. But you know, for for for me, all 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.319 I cared about was just making the music. And you know, 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.640 if my music is standing up against somebody, you know, 0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:58.799 just judging on the basis of the music. Once you're 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.000 getting all this other shit. It's just like again it 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:04.000 was educational. It's like, okay, I know that's what it is. Now, 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:05.920 all right, cool, I'm good on it, you know what 0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:07.640 I mean. And that's the thing I want to make clear. 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:11.040 It's not that we don't care. We just understand what 0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:12.600 it is and what it's going to take if you 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.800 want to make that run. It's like running for president, 0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:15.359 you know what I mean. 0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.080 I don't understand why don't Like, I know y'all got 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.839 to go, but why why couldn't y'all just consistently be y'all? 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:22.879 Like I said, you can watch the doc and see 0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:24.240 the finality, see the humor. 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.120 I was watching the old video that I don't even 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:26.719 know why I just went. 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:28.879 I was watching old videos this weekend and the video 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.680 where you let your mom speak the verse. 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.719 I like, y'all do stuff like y'all do your own thing. 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:36.040 That's personality driven. 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:40.560 Why not? We're not thirsty, That's the key. We're not 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:44.160 because it's been things people like yo, you want to 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.000 do this and be like nah, you know like you 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.560 as how pr got be like yo, I got I 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.880 got I got this. We can do this. We can 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:53.439 do this and we would go right through the list. 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:57.319 No no, yeah, no, no no, and like anybody else 0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.759 will be like, oh, ship, I'm doing all that we like, 0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:02.839 Like it's far more intentional, you know, curate it, Yeah, 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:05.920 to curate the kind of experience that you want to 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.680 give your fans. So like come in to breakfast club, 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.719 like you know, we both Carolina, Like there's a connection there, 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.360 you know what I mean. So it's like you don't 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.560 just do everything. It's not just you know, coming in 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.000 with a oozy and just like nah, very targeted shots 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.960 because at this point in the game, you know, we're 0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.120 twenty year vets, and you know, the energy that you have, 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.919 you know, you really have to conserve and you only 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.120 got to use it on the ship. That really fucking matters, 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.000 you know what I mean. You can't just be out here, 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.799 in my opinion, you can't just be out here just 0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:39.080 moving crazy and just you know, expending all your energy 0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:42.680 and your time on not half an unlimited amount of 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:48.160 bullets in the chamber at forty forty five years old. 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:54.240 I don't believe that's no, no, no, you mean time 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.839 like physically, how we feel about doing things, because yeah, okay, 0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:58.600 because I feel. 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.120 Like you can do whatever you can. You can do it. 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:02.880 I mean you see, like someone like nas is on 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:09.839 a run right now performance a sweet Absolutely you can. 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.359 You can do whatever you want to do. What we 0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:16.239 what I'm saying is you gotta be very you gotta 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.839 be strategic about what you're doing, because the energy like 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.640 just putting energy into things that don't make no sense. 0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:25.520 You know, when you're twenty, you got all the fucking 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.319 energy in the world. Forty you like, hold up now, 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.640 and you have to be specific and strategic like you 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.520 were saying, because I'm a firm believer that the work 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.719 you do is the work that you're gonna create more 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.600 for yourself. So if you start doing sucker ship, you 0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.160 just gonna get more sucker opportunities, you know. I mean, 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.919 so I'm like, nah, like we're just gone to set 0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:45.759 this ship up off break like this. What we're doing 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.760 is what we're not doing and just hold that boundary 0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.319 and uh again it just speaks to just I think 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:53.879 just the sustainability of it. You know, we really wanted 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.520 to do this for a long time and uh you know, 0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.840 we knew we wasn't gonna do that just doing moving 0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:01.719 like how we saw a lot of other rappers were 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.120 moving and just a lot of just entertainment was moving. 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.480 We had to kind of come and do something that 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.920 was very specific to who we were, and we kind 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:14.040 of had a chance to go through that again with Luke. 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:17.759 You know, absolutely, you know, but yeah, it's working with 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:22.120 Luke signed to Dreatville and just doing his album, and 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.960 he was very adamant, like I'm gonna do me like 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.800 like I'm not. I'm not you know, yes, I want things, 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.439 but I'm gonna do what's comfortable for me, like who 0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.080 It was a key point conversation we had and he 0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:37.680 was like, yo, I want to be able to be 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:42.279 me everywhere. And I said, well, if that's what you 0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:44.160 want to do, this is this is kind of the 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.839 road map for it. And and that's just who he is, 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.799 Like he's not a big mixy person. He's not you know, 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.160 he deals with anxiety. He talks about it, and so 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.160 we have to be very strategic and how we move 0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:59.399 with him, and it's just traces of how we move 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.320 and who we are. I see that and him and 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.480 so I was kind of perfect for that because I'm like, 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:08.239 I know what this is, don Bro. And it was 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:09.759 just one of the things where it was like, yo, 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:11.800 this is this is day ja vu like a muff 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.520 because you can't because the thing is like and that's 0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.080 again with the artists. Now, I just kind of treat 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:19.200 kind of keep telling them like, bro y'a don't understand. 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.200 I know this shit is crazy, but whatever it is 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.160 you're into, you can find an audience for that, Like 0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:29.160 you know, in particular cars and he's the cars painting. 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:31.719 It's like, dude, if you if you don't want to 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:33.640 do breakfast club, like if you if that's not your 0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:35.680 thing and you just want to get your Bob bross 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.600 on and do little Instagram snippers and you paint, you 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:40.600 can do that and that shitll go off. You'll find 0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.960 a community people that are into it. There's a market 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.400 for it, and you can go directly to them. And 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.000 that was just something that wasn't really you know, back 0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:50.920 you know to your original question earlier about you know, 0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.800 why we weren't bigger. I just think at that time 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.640 there were choices, definite choices that we made. But also 0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:01.360 it was very much marketing back then wasn't really tailored 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.239 to the artist. It was just kind of a one 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.920 size fits all. This is album coming, This is what 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:08.600 needs to happen. 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:11.400 Hold his bottle knowledge you going to this radio. 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.000 Station and it's like bru, Like we don't even drink 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.320 like that, Like this doesn't make sense. You know what 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.480 I'm saying, don't you know, no moral objection to it, 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.640 but I'm like, this doesn't translate. And you just didn't 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.960 really have the latitude to figure that out back then 0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.200 in a way the artists do now, and so it 0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.720 really is a beautiful time. And that's why we wanted 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.160 to take advantage now of just being able to go 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.239 direct to consumer, go directly to our audience with the documentary, 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.160 and it's just been it's been a beautiful experience. 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:42.120 How many young boys are like just like this, like 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:43.200 we don't want to change. 0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:44.560 We don't want to I don't want it to do 0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:46.840 all of this that X Y Z is doing to 0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:48.640 get where X Y and Z is at. 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:50.280 And you know if I never get there, I never get. 0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:54.000 There, Like this interview and your documentary is definitely gonna 0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.880 like that. That's good for people because other guys like 0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:59.759 you out there, young boys who like underground Wrap and 0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:01.400 they have about things that they feel like won't be 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.719 accepted or conducive to what today's hip hop is or 0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.680 today's rap or whatever, and it's his inspirational to a 0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:09.239 lot of boys in a lot of. 0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.439 Roman Thank you. That was that was part of the hope, 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.520 was that people can hear our story and see some 0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.000 of themselves in our story, and that's that's something we 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:22.160 have that we didn't have that rop. Yeah, yeah, it 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:25.400 was like, hey man, it's the way you gotta do it. 0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:26.719 Do it. 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.399 I got too more questions because I know jefs hungry 0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:33.120 and she want to go. But one hundred three thousand 0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.759 said he doesn't rap anymore because he's forty eight and 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.520 he has nothing to talk about it being ol g's 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:40.320 and y'all forties. 0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.000 How did that statement make you feel? 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.160 We talked about it on something else. Man. It's like, 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.880 we look at ourselves as writers and you don't have 0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.640 an a's limit. You know, we're not athletes. We're not 0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.359 you know, out there trying to dunk, and we're right, 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.719 you should be getting better with time or even to 0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.719 your point about killing Mike and just you know what 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:01.799 I mean, your head, you know when you get old. 0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.040 There was a there's an arc I read like years 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:09.320 ago that talked about how most creative breakthroughs were artists. 0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:13.200 Most creative breakthroughs happened in like your late thirties early forties, 0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.200 because that's when both sides of your brain learned to 0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.279 talk to each other, you know what I mean. And 0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:20.880 so that just I was like, damn, that's right. And so, 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.279 you know, it really is a thing where in this 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:27.400 business again, it just goes against everything because if you 0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:30.560 ain't owned by twenty five, you know, you you done 0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.440 lost it. And you know a lot of you know, 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.680 labels and just you know, a lot of industry people 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:39.239 they're reluctant to work with older talent, what they perceive 0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:42.600 as older talent, when that's the time when you know 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.360 you're at your best, you know what I'm saying, because 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.680 you've lived a life. I remember we interviewed Chris Rock 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:51.160 on QLs sometime back, and he was talking about how 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.320 Supreme Quest of Supreme. Here I'm just talking another iHeart 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.480 property but yeah shouts the Quest Love and my people's 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.200 team Supreme. But yeah, we was he was interview Chris 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.120 Rock and he was talking about how, you know, in 0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.960 the early days of his stand up, he didn't really 0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:06.800 have shit to talk about He was like, you know, 0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:08.719 your early age stand up, it's just it's just dick 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:11.120 jokes shit, because it's like, what do you have? But 0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.319 it's not until you go and you live and you 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.719 get divorced, you have kids, you damn like, you know, 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.319 you really have things to talk about. And so that 0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.800 was kind of for us, you know, with the Andre statement, 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.080 we talked about it, but yeah, I mean, it's kind 0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:26.759 of all in the eye to be holder. If he 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.799 feels that he doesn't have anything to say at forty eight, 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:32.719 that's his creative journey. That's how he feels, you know 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:35.600 what I mean it and it takes time to figure out. 0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:38.440 You know. With Johnwick rap, we've heard so long that 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:41.879 rap is a young man's game and who you are 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:44.360 you know when you're young, so much of that is 0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.640 driven by hunger and like anger and just trying to 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:51.120 make it. You know, nigga, what what do you rap 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:52.759 about that? After you done sold ten million records and 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:54.160 he ain't struggling no more, And it's. 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.080 All about what you are willing to share, right like that? 0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:58.160 Absolutely, I don't we don't have to get on this 0:50:58.239 --> 0:50:59.520 radio and talk about our family. We don't have to 0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.319 talk about our kids. We do, but we don't have to. 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.080 I don't got to talk about mental health and going 0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:06.120 to therapy. But it's about what you are willing to share. 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:06.879 Share. 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:12.359 And my last question is what does twenty years feel like? Ya? 0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:16.520 Like a good night's sleep? Absolutely, like legit, A lot 0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.600 of this feels like a year ago, two years ago. 0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.320 I mean we lost two years, but with the pandemic 0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:25.359 we lost a little bit of the time. But nah, 0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:27.759 it don't feel it don't feel like twenty years at all. 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.480 Like it's it's one of them things where you look 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:32.960 back and be like, shit, like I'm about to be 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:36.279 forty four, man, I was just twenty one, Brian like 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:40.040 walking around like what's going on here? And so it's 0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:41.839 and that's a blessing, you know what I mean. Like 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.399 it ain't been a hard twenty for us. I mean, 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.440 we've been through our share of things, but you know 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.759 we ain't have you know, no overdoses, no nah man, 0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.399 you know, nobody locked up. You know what I'm saying, 0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.120 We ain't had none of them type of issue. So 0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:58.280 it's just one of them things, you know, you blessed 0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.680 that it feels like it only been a short amount 0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:04.520 of time because that means we got twenty more plus 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:08.000 to go. It's just gratitude. I think that's what it 0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:10.719 feels like for me. It's just gratitude just looking at 0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:12.319 you know a lot of cats that we came in 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:15.080 the game with that you know, didn't make it for whatever, 0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:18.239 for various reasons, you know what I'm saying. And you know, 0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:21.920 and guys that were and that were like crazy talented, 0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:23.759 you know what I'm saying, It's just like, oh my god, 0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:26.840 why didn't this person get this? And you know, it 0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:29.040 really is just a lesson. You know, Man, the race 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:30.719 ain't always to the swift, you know what I mean, 0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:33.760 it really is. You know, when you see somebody that's 0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:37.760 on or popping or whatever, there are a million different 0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:41.200 factors that play into that person having that platform, the 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.880 least of which is probably their talent. Yeah you know 0:52:43.880 --> 0:52:46.120 what I'm saying, Talent, don't. I mean that shit is 0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.880 oh yeah, you know, so so for us to just 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.319 you know, still be here and you know, twenty years 0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.360 later and just to be not just still here and 0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:59.360 still like revelepment, but just sharper mentally, Like I really, 0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:01.720 I really feel like as a writer I'm just getting started. 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.200 Like there's just things and that you know as an 0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.360 MC and you know, just as a creator. There's just 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:09.799 tools in my toolbox that I have now that I 0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:13.319 didn't have twenty years ago. And uh it just I 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.439 just feel reinvigorated, you know what I mean? And even 0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:18.480 to that point for me, like people told me my 0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:23.360 best two albums writing has been my last two? You 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:26.200 like wine? 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.520 Will we ever get a Fonte Pool Knife one? 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:34.719 Dude? Nah, damn. I didn't even think about it. 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:37.600 It was like maybe there was a possibility a couple 0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:37.959 of years. 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.680 Why, Like they don't know, they don't understand. 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.120 You know what is we gotta. 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:46.440 Watch the die? 0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:49.080 Yeah, it's in the doc. I mean, we talked about everything. 0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:52.120 But it don't seem like it's none of y'all can't recordize. 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:53.680 It seems like they could be like at least maybe 0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:55.640 it's it's. 0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:59.799 Not as y'all. It's not everything about reconciling anything. It's 0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:05.399 just live. It's just that's just not what it's gonna be. Yeah, 0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:08.040 you know little brothers Fante and Pool and Knife Wonder 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.040 is nfe Wonder and you know, we wish him all 0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.719 the best and you know whatever, all his endeavors and 0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:17.160 we're gonna keep doing us and that's just what it is. 0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:23.480 You Beyonce, what's up with Michelle and Kelly and Farah and. 0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:37.480 Come on, like she said, Pharah, that ain't might got 0:54:37.600 --> 0:54:43.440 a shot? You know. 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:44.360 They started with. 0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:48.680 Yes, they say no, you're gonna be like damn for real. 0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:52.040 Nigga said no. 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:55.120 But it's it's not the same because definitely, child, we 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:56.920 we got like it felt like we. 0:54:56.880 --> 0:55:00.520 Got closure with that. You know, I don't we got 0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:01.760 closure with Little Brother. 0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:08.279 The documentary is closure documentary. It's all sometimes we're not 0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:12.520 we're not afforded the closure we want. I'm a girl, 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:17.640 get the closure you get. Check out the documentary. Learn 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:18.359 about Little Brother. 0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:19.879 Made the Lord watch the Little Brother. 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:24.520 That was fun that that that took me like watching 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:26.359 videos because you know, we weren't even thinking about video. 0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:28.319 I wasn't see that. 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:31.000 I was like, damn and were surprised we even had that. 0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:34.440 Yeah, hell know, he wasn't think an't you know who 0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:35.319 he was? 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:39.960 And I was not. 0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:42.440 He ran over there and got some cream for. 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:49.200 I said, yeah, I was, he was. You got you 0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:56.799 got three three it's Little Brother. Thank you for having 0:55:56.880 --> 0:56:01.120 us congratulations than I love the Baltimore. I was hearing 0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:06.960 to tears and I was like yes, so congratulations, Breakfast Club. 0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.800 Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast 0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:11.160 Club