1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Wait till answer up in the morning, The Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Everybody's thej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy. We are 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed we got Little brother absolutely. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: Big Pool. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 4: How y'all brother's feeling Man good Man were alive, so 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 4: you can afore thankful, thankful they got the new documentary, 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 4: Made a Lord Watch the Little Brother's Story. 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Why that title, I mean, first it we started this 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: when we were making the album Made a Little Watch 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, So this was kind of like 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: to bring into that era and it just made sense. 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: It just really made sense, like thinking about everything that 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: we kind of went through and survived, the Lord had 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: to be watching over us. There was no other fucking explanation. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: I So no, man, that was just kind of felt 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: just felt like a conclusion of that chapter. And yeah, 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: five years in the making. Man. So it's out now 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: on YouTube. 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: But let's let's talk from the begin and for people 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: that don't know who Little Brothers and how you got 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: together and how you met, which is pretty dope. 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: You your brothers met at HBCU. Absolutely Carolina unc University. 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Shout out Eagle pride, This Durma Carolina nineteen Well, I 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: came in ninety seven. I came in ninety eight. We 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: met in ninety eight. In ninety eight where we met. 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 2: You're from Rialley, Virginia. From Virginia to Old Diminion's supposed 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: to go to. My wife went to Older Minion. She 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: graduated mo Old Dominion. That's that's how I know I. 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: Still got my ID from when I went to orientation. 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: You still got the ID. 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: I want to tell your mama though, why you why 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: you waited till the day. 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: Before exaggerated fam. It wasn't the day before, it was 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: a week before. Nah, I mean that was that was 36 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: my first big decision, as you know, an eighteen year 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: old was was making that decision. And I mean she 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: let me make the decision for myself. But it's still 39 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: my mom, you know what I mean. Like I don't 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: cuss in front of my mama to this day, you 41 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But nah, I mean, but still 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's one of the things like I have 43 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: a healthy fear. My mom is so. 44 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: Healthy healthy fear. 45 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: My mom got Napoleon complex man, She not. 46 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: Like HBCUs because I mean, you go to it was free. 47 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't the HBCU thing. It was the I was 48 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna be staying with living with my uncle, so her brother. 49 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: So she knew, like, Yo, you're good, good, You're down 50 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: there with family. None of us had been to Durham, 51 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: North Carolina. None of us had heard of North Carolina Central. 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: So for her it was just a shock, like what 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: what where you going? I thought you was gonna be 54 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: you know where I had a hand on you. So 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: she went to that. Nah, my mom didn't go to college. 56 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: She went to she went to nursing school, go to college. 57 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: But so yeah, so it was just one of the 58 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: things where it happened. I literally got in Central. It 59 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: happened in like a week, you know what I'm saying. 60 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Like the whole process from asking to do you want 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: to go to me doing paperwork and it happened in 62 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: like a week. So it was just moving and I 63 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, ship, I'm in there. I'm going Okay, 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: now I gotta tell me mom. 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 3: I would think she'd be happy. 66 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: She was happy, that's the thing, Like she was happy 67 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: for me. But it was just the thing of this 68 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: isn't where we thought you were. This wasn't plan I had, 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: this is this is your plan now now I think 70 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: it was the realization of it goes from my plan 71 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: for you to your plan for you control anymore. And 72 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm her you know, I'm her youngest son. So it 73 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: was just one of the things of like ship, I 74 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: gotta let go now, and so that's what it was. 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: So he got to college and you guys met each other. 76 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: So talk about that process. How you guys met. I 77 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: know a lot of this is actually domary, but how 78 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: you guys met and what attracted you guys together and 79 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: then you started this rap group that became underground Legends. 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: Man, it was, uh, it was very organic. I met 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: pool well first, I met ninth. We met uh what 82 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: we I think I met? We met first ninety eight? Yeah, 83 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: we met night. Yeah, so yeah, we met through a 84 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: mutual friend. Uh nine was on campus and and he 85 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: was we was moving in the dorm. Like we saw 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: each other from the dorm and uh over Source magazine 87 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: we started chopping up all this is in the dock. 88 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: But long story short, we basically just kind of started, 89 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, working together. This was at a time when 90 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, it was at the time this is like 91 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: ninety eight, So this is when no limit is like 92 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: killing everything, especially up. Yeah, so hbce you no limit 93 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: at Like the Ghetto d album dropped my freshman year, 94 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: that was all you heard in every room, like we 95 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: was bumping that shit. Nonock body listen what listen man? 96 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: We ran ghetto dope. So but so everybody was pumping that. 97 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: So if you were a kid that was into like 98 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: raucous or soundbomb, like, you know, meeting someone else that 99 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: was into that that was kind of rare, you know 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: what I mean. So when you met somebody that was 101 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: on that same wave, if it's like, oh shit, I 102 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: found my people. So we just kind of linked up 103 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: and just started making records and people are out there. 104 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: When he said Ruckus Ruckus record, you got to tell 105 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: him because somebody potentializing because this was the label that 106 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: you know, I would lyrical, miracle, spiritual. 107 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Very criminal, umbilical, that type of thing. 108 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: You can't help it break down, they said, rockets. 109 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Somebody might not know what it was. You know, it 110 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: was very much. They were like it was an underground label, 111 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: but it was you know, I mean most quality. You know, 112 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: it was like pretty much all Eminem was on Rocket 113 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: sound Bomb. Yeah. So so they were just you know, 114 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: putting out amazing stuff that we really enjoyed, and so 115 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: we just kind of started making records, put some stuff 116 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: up on the internet, and uh, you. 117 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 6: Just sounds like today. I don't know, how would you 118 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 6: describe it sound today like now? 119 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: It's not the same, it's not the same, but it's 120 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: still us. It's still us. It's weird, it's like our 121 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: sound has evolved musically, but it's still sound like Little Brothers, 122 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: like one I had after our last album came out 123 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: maylod Watch and then we just put out two singles 124 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: last October October with Wish Me Well in Glory, Glory 125 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: September September, September I'm Bad. And one of the biggest 126 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: compliments we got was that somebody said, Yo, I can 127 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: make an LB playlist from y'all stuff twenty years ago 128 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: to now, and it sounds like y'all haven't missed a beat. 129 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: I can't tell that it's dated. It doesn't sound it 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: still sounds timeless, and that was something I think we 131 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: always strive for. So that's if I had describe it, 132 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: I would just say it's timeless. 133 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question about just being from 134 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: the South. When you first it is random. When you 135 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: first heard Ghetto Dope, right then, you think it was 136 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 4: kind of blaspheming. 137 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: It's just a little bit, just a little yo. I 138 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: love the song. 139 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: I was yelling too hard man, right right, dude, man man, 140 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: I played man ghetto Dope that I played. We ran 141 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: that whole album trying to do something that Moby Dick 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: was doing all the hooks I could. I was the rappers. 143 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: You paused worthy people, this is the album. 144 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's explainable with bourbons and lax uh weak 145 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: man comment. We ran the album left the right man, 146 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: So nah, it was we didn't really. I didn't think 147 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: of it as blasphemous. I just thought it was I 148 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: looked at his peep paying homage to that era, you 149 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, paying homage to Ride and all 150 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: of them. So I love that album. 151 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: But you guys also came out in the era where 152 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: the DJ and the producer was part of the group, right, yeah, yeah, sure, 153 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: whether it was of course running m c J J, 154 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff step Ninth Wonder was part 155 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: of Little Brother in the beginning. Yeah, he's not here now, 156 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: So what's the relationship with ninth wonders? They're no more relationship. 157 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: There's no more relationship. But there's no no. I mean 158 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: we talked about it in the dot, but no, we're 159 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: just separate entities, you know what I'm saying. That we 160 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: came in the game together, but we're little brother, he's 161 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: ninth one, and we're just separate entity that we coexist peacefully, 162 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's just what it is. 163 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: But I didn't participate in the doctor because I mean, 164 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: this is the little brother's story. 165 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: That's a question for him. 166 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, but like I would like to 167 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: have heard his perspective of it now as what did 168 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: y'all reach out to it? 169 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: We absolutely, yeah, we reached out, you know what I'm saying. 170 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: Made it clear that you know, it wasn't this wasn't 171 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a hit piece. We wasn't coming for nobody next. 172 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: You know, we're just telling our story in just a beautiful, 173 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: honest way, and he just shows me how to participate, 174 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: and that's his right too. 175 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 4: I feel like y'all set them up nights, especially when 176 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 4: you first told the early story about I forgot what 177 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: album it was. But it was an album I think 178 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: it was awful rock, yeah, right, produced by DJ Premier, 179 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: and he was like, yo, that's what I want to 180 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 4: be in one of y'all encourage him, like, yo, you can. 181 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Be that absolutely absolutely. Yeah. Man, we were always I mean, 182 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: we're coming up. I mean, you gotta keep in mind, like, dude, 183 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: we like nineteen twenty years old. You know what I'm saying. 184 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean we you know, we're just trying to figure 185 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: out let alone, trying to figure out how to be artists, 186 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: I figure out how to be men. Yeah, you know 187 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, so, you know, trying to figure 188 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: out all that stuff at the same time. I mean, man, 189 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's tough. So but yeah, but 190 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: we tried to tell the story just as honestly as 191 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: you as we could. And but you know, we can't 192 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: speak for another person. We can only tell our experience, 193 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: and so he chose not to And that's is right. 194 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 6: What made y'all want to do the documentary right now? 195 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 6: Is it anything other than the fact that y'all. 196 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: Years in the game, I mean twenty years but uh now, 197 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about it. We just wanted to 198 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: tell our story, our way. You know. We didn't want 199 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: it to be uh, you know, unsung or told by 200 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: somebody else, you know what I mean, or you know, 201 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: so they can pick their angle, their slant or whatever. 202 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: And we wanted to be our story, our voices, our way, 203 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: and so we said, let's do it, and we just 204 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: started the journey. We didn't know what we was doing, 205 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: but we started the journey twenty eighteen, and it just 206 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: took us time to kind of figure out the story 207 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: we wanted to tell and how we wanted to tell it. 208 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: And I think the pandemic actually helped us trum endlessly 209 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: because that version of the movie now is that's the 210 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: third version trying to try to knock it down, and 211 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: it's just very It's something that you know, with documentaries, 212 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they're tough, and I think a lot of 213 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: filmmakers they would try to do docs because they think 214 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: that it's easier because you're telling a factual story, you 215 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it's like, even if you're 216 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: telling a factual story, it still has to be compelling 217 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: and you still have to arrange those facts in a 218 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: compelling way, because if you're just telling facts, that's not 219 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: a movie that's a fucking book report, Like nobody wants 220 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: to see that, you know what I mean, You have 221 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: to give a story. And so our partners on it, 222 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: Holland Gallagher who's our director, and jo Phillips who's our writer, 223 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: they really were our partners in it, and they're younger 224 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: than us, and so we thought it was important to 225 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: have people who were from a different generation to kind 226 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: of catch a lot of the blind spots that we 227 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: make not have solved, and we thought that was important, 228 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: and so they came in and they really helped kind 229 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: of shape the narrative because they were looking at this 230 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: they weren't super fans of us, and that was something 231 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: that we did not want. We didn't want someone that 232 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: was the ultimate Little Brother fan making this movie because 233 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: they feel like they already know the story and if they, 234 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: you know, you you dead in the water then and 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: that's just not the way documentary works. So they really 236 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: came in and were able to just you know, tell, 237 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: We told our stories, We did our interviews, the interviews, 238 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: we shot our personal interviews everyone else. We gave the 239 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: questions beforehand, like cause you know, it's you know, my 240 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: grandmother rest in peace. Our mother's homies. You know what 241 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not like you're working with actors. You 242 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: working with people, you know what I mean. So you 243 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: got to give them time to kind of think what 244 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: you want to say. So we gave them all the 245 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: questions beforehand, and then when it came time for me 246 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: in Pooh interview, we told Holland and Yo, like, yo, bro, 247 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: we don't want nothing, just get in get in here. 248 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: Whatever you ask one take one shot. That's what it is. 249 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: And so that's that's that's what y'all got. 250 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: You see evolution in it. I mean you see dark 251 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: skinning Leonard in there, absolutely. 252 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: Living with the hair like that sounds like he was 253 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: like look. 254 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, you look like one 255 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 5: of the kids. 256 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: Lean on me. What's the club? What year was that too? 257 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: That was as show? That was a five five? It 258 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: was five, I remember it was a five. That was 259 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: the on We talked about it briefly on q LS, 260 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, that was the only interview that I missed 261 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: because when we had to do that that run, I 262 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: think your son, Yeah, that was when my son, the 263 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: son was born. So it was just me and Knife 264 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: on that run every time I see that, I think 265 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: about it, because I wouldn't as polished as I am 266 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: now doing interviews. I was like, b T, I. 267 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: Don't know I'm gonna work there, irying to dance around. 268 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: I ain't worked there. What it was like? Nah no, No, 269 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: that was that was funny. That was that was blast 270 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: from the past. It was five. It was on five. 271 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: So when ninth one that got the call from Hole 272 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: to work with him and Hope started doing production, do 273 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: you think that production area kind of dismantled the group 274 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: a lot? 275 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Nah No, Man, like we we we was happy. 276 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: We was excited for him, you know, I mean, like 277 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: ship we got to go to baseline and hear it 278 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: before it came out there with Hole and all that. 279 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: But nah, we was we knew it. That's a big opportunity. 280 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: It is fucking jay z, you know what I mean, Like, 281 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: come on, man, you want stuff for your team like 282 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: you want you know, if you know, studying hip hop, 283 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: most of the big producers they get their starting groups. 284 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: So we just saw it's just a natural progression, you 285 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yeah, it was amazing just 286 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: to know that, you know, one of your homies can 287 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: make a beat. On his laptop and it ends up 288 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: with jay Z rapping over. I mean that ship was like, 289 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: oh my, like what you know what I'm saying, And 290 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: it really it really for us was for me, it 291 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: was a sign of the kind of the changing of 292 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: the guard in terms of what constituted studio quality, you know, 293 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: because for a long time, you know, you had to 294 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: have When people thought of a studio, they thought of 295 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: it as like, okay, it's this big, the big boards 296 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: and like these big you know, big consoles and big 297 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: speakers and everything, and beat makers were pretty much thought 298 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: of as you know, like hardware. But for him to 299 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: make something, you know, on a laptop, I mean that 300 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: was the beginning of software. You know. He really pioneered that, 301 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So now with him with 302 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: fruity loops and now, I mean that's pretty much kind 303 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: of the standard with cats making records on machine and 304 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: ableton and stuff like that, and so it really was 305 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: it was validation for us. I mean, we made our 306 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: first album literally in you know, a friend's apartment, you 307 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the mic, like the mic 308 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: we recorded listening, it wasn't as good as this mike. 309 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't even this. It was like a little like 310 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: a little three hundred dollars carnival. Yeah, yeah, we had 311 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: like a little little joint on it, but described yeah, 312 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: that was what it was. And you know what I mean. 313 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: And so but we did it. And I guess the 314 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: lesson for me was just that, you know, as long 315 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: as you have a taste, there is there aren't really 316 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: no rules in music. You just have to have a 317 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: degree of taste that can translate to an audience and 318 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: if you can make it make sense to them and 319 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: they get it, and that's really all you need. And 320 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: we were able to do that with very limited means. 321 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: And so I'm just I'm just thankful. Why why why? 322 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: YouTube? 323 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: That was the other thing I was wondering, Like, you know, 324 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: did y'all even try to shop into like who Netflix? 325 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Anybodyuh? The writers of Stranger Things were on strike, nah, 326 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean in love Craft Countries on TV absolutely today. 327 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. I did Apollott Marathon 328 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: the other night, like straight out of comptent on TV. Yeah. 329 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: I think for us because people always ask that question, right, 330 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: and first to start off as a joke like this 331 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: shit up on YouTube, but then we start thinking about 332 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: it like, that's exactly that's what it's going. 333 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: Like. 334 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: I know seven year olds who stay on YouTube. I 335 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: know sixty nine year olds who stay on YouTube. So 336 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: for us, it was just like, all this shit is 337 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: on the internet. It's all the same the internet to 338 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: the same Internet. So the objective here was I was 339 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: talking to a homier mine. I was just like, you know, 340 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I got this project. I don't know 341 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: what I should do. I said, listen, what's your objective? 342 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: Are you trying to be validated by one of these companies? 343 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: Are you looking for the bag? Or do you want 344 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: people to see this shit? We wanted people to see 345 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: our documentary. So the easiest way is you can anybody 346 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: can go up on YouTube. You can watch You don't 347 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: gotta watch it in one seton and explain how my 348 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: mama had a log into YouTube. Everybody knows how to 349 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: go on YouTube. 350 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 5: You can watch it on the phone, our path. 351 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Any anywhere. And then also what we saw because we 352 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: came into the industry of three when we signed the Atlantic, 353 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: we saw how the music industry was changing real time. 354 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: We was part of it. We're seeing the same thing 355 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: happen right now for film and television. Ain't nobody trying 356 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: to get caught up in that bullshit? Nah? Now, so 357 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be banging trying to get the 358 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: masters for my movie back in ten years, like getting 359 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: the fuck out of here, you know what i mean. So, yeah, 360 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: it was really you know, YouTube was it was the 361 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: only platform that spoke directly to the Little Brother's story, 362 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, we were one 363 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: of the first rap groups to go viral at a 364 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: time when no one even knew what that was or 365 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: even how to monetize it, you know what I'm saying, 366 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: because it was just so early, you know what I mean. 367 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: And so a big part of that had to do 368 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: with people being able to freely access our music, and 369 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: it was something that was shared. And we just thought 370 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: that our movie, you know, about our music and about 371 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: our lives, it had to be experienced in that same way. 372 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: You know. We put it out and you know, we 373 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: dropped it on Black Friday on YouTube, and you know, 374 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: we did the premiere on YouTube and my man shot, 375 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: my man, Devin Morrison, he hit me was like, yo, bro, 376 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm about to stream this join on my Twitch channel. 377 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: Pull up, I said, helly, your nigga, let's go, you 378 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I jumped on this Twitch 379 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he's screening it. I'm in 380 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: the chat like knowledge is in the chat shot to 381 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: him like we all just chopping it up. And you know, 382 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: that was just a kind of communal experience that we 383 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: would not have been able to have had we tried 384 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: to do it in a traditional way, you know what 385 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean Like that, you know that just really it 386 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: just felt true to who we were and who we are, 387 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: and so that was that was why we decided to 388 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: go with YouTube. 389 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 3: Even getting introduced to y'all via the internet. 390 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: You know, South Carolina was right there by North Carolina, 391 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 4: but I heard about y'all be online. People don't not 392 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: understand how big All hip Hop dot Com was. Listen listens, yes, man, 393 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 4: not realize how big that ship was? 394 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: Nah man, All hip Hop s o hh okay players. 395 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: I mean that really was just kind of your really 396 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: just you know, where you found out about music, you 397 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Just where all the stuff you 398 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: can kind of see on the come up, that was 399 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: where you found it. And you know, back to the film, Yeah, 400 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: we just kind of saw like, now we have the 401 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: opportunity to go direct to consumer in a way that 402 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: we didn't have in two thousand and three. Like if 403 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean shit, if man we would have had band 404 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: Camp in two thousand and three, I wouldn't sign no 405 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: fucking regularly in a rap What would have made Little 406 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: Brother bigger? Though? Right? 407 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: Because you talked to rappers, and for most rappers, some 408 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: of them will say you're one of their favorite groups, right, 409 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: But a lot of the fans, a lot of the 410 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: people that listen might not have heard Little Brother, Right, 411 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: What do you think would have made Little Brother bigger? 412 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: If it would have been maybe signing to a Ruckus 413 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: that concentrates directly on underground music, it would have been, 414 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: you know, a Cotch Records that's definitely under Like, what 415 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: do you think would have made it made you guys bigger? 416 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's that's a tricky question because, like 417 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: I said, the industry was changing at the time. So, 418 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, for us, I always say we was we 419 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: was after the rockous era, but we was before you 420 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: know whatever. We were the bridge the bridge from from 421 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: that to you know, like the Colds and the Kindreds 422 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: and all of them. So I don't know if it 423 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: was in the cars for us to be bigger. Honestly, 424 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: I think we are. Yeah, we was the lead blockers, 425 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you know, we was, 426 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: you know, we was to take out the linebacker like 427 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily you're not gonna get the glory. You're 428 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: not gonna get the touchdown. You're not gonna you gotta 429 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: do your job, do your job well, and you'll be remembered, rewarded, 430 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: honored for that, you know what I mean, respected for that. 431 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I don't I don't know if bigger 432 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: was in the cars for us, honestly because I know 433 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: who we are, you know what I mean, and you 434 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: know and I know who we are is I don't 435 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: know if that's conducive. No, it wasn't like I remember 436 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: having I remember Minister Show came out and we did. Uh, 437 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: I think what was the first week. It was like 438 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen and something like that, you know what I mean, 439 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: eighteen thousand records and you know back then that was 440 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: just your worst Yeah, straight up, but you said eighteen 441 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: thousand now, like thank you man. But I remember like 442 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: we did it and it came out and I remember 443 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: talking to a mirror shout shouts to the mirror, man, 444 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: that's that's big bro for real. And you know, he 445 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: was saying, he was like, listen, man, y'all gonna have 446 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: to go crazy, like y'all gonna have to perform at 447 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: the label. Y'all gonna have to do this, like y'all 448 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: gonna have to you know, even in the lobby, like 449 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: y'all gonna have to do this, do this. And the 450 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: thing was he was right, he was absolutely right. And 451 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 1: I just talked to I remember, had a conversation. We 452 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: were just like, we ain't doing that ship. I'm like, 453 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: I just made an album called The Mistress. You think 454 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm about to be in a label dance. 455 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: I'm not. 456 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: You know, that's just not who we all up at 457 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: your label in the video. Nah. So you know, it 458 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: was just one of those things. And it's really just 459 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: as an artist, you know, throughout our journey, you really 460 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: just have to decide what's for you and what's not 461 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: and the things that are for you. You know, I 462 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: tell her all the time, you can't ever look at 463 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: someone's success and and you know think that, Okay, that's 464 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: what I want because you don't know the price that 465 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: they paid for that success, you know what I mean, 466 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: You don't you know, that may not be something that 467 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: you're willing to do, or it just may not be 468 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: it may not align with who you are as a person. 469 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: And so I think the biggest lesson for us, which 470 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: is the beauty of this era now, which I think 471 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: a lot of artists don't get. You know, they're frustrated 472 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: because it's like, man, it's just so much content, is 473 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: so much to compete with everything. But the beautiful thing 474 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: about it for us is that you have the ability 475 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: to go direct the consumer and whatever it is that 476 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: you're into, you can just find an audience around that. 477 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: It's like the difference between you know, in our era, 478 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: it was trying to hit a moving target. It was 479 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: trying to hit a moving bullseye, and this era is 480 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: just you fire a shot and wherever it lands, you 481 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: just paint the target around that bullet. You know what 482 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You just you know, and that's what we've 483 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: been able to do. And it just makes for in us, 484 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, it makes for better art and just mix 485 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: for happier people. 486 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 4: Also stopped when the game shifted to every then y'all 487 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 4: already was on like like, y'all, it was like nine 488 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 4: years between projects, right. Twenty ten is when you really 489 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: got introduced to the Kendricks and the Coles and the Drakes. 490 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: That was y'all. 491 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: That's y'all energy. 492 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 4: Like you said, y'all, they all was inspired by you 493 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: what y'all was doing. 494 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 3: But y'all stopped. 495 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was that was That was definitely 496 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: a frustration of mine. Was just like we fought so 497 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: hard to get up that proverbial heel and we got 498 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: up there, it was like, all right, we're done. It 499 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: was yeah, because you had that moment like you just 500 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: you know there moment. 501 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: Brot this night show. 502 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this audience, My audience is laughing with me. 503 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: They're not laughing at me, you know what I mean. 504 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: But no, it was very much that. I remember we 505 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: did a show, our last LA show. This is what 506 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: before we broke official. This was twenty teeny Yeah, twenty Kendrick. 507 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Kendrick is in the doc It's a Sexual with Me, 508 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: Kendrick and ap So that was from that show. We 509 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: had Kendrick opening on that show. It open, and that 510 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: was like we were in the worst shape ever, we 511 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: were like we weren't even talking. We wasn't even it 512 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: was the energy was just it was just foul. And 513 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: I remember like Kendrick coming up afterwards and he was like, Yo, man, 514 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: I fuck with y'all. I'm a big fan, Like let's 515 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: link whatever. I'm like, yeah, bro, like cool, you know, 516 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: DApp him up, game home. I'm like, love what you do. 517 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: And like that was it. But I really know, we 518 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: look back on it now and it was really you know, 519 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: I just hate that. I wish they could have seen 520 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: us in a better place because by that time twenty ten, 521 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: we was just over like this shit. We ain't like 522 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: each other. We was side of the game and everything. 523 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: It was like, gotch What got you to. 524 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: The point where the group boys cool anymore? 525 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: Weren't communicating? Yeah, we had different goals. We didn't know 526 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: how to communicate. I'll say that, like, you know, we 527 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: didn't have the tools or at the time. I mean, 528 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: look yeah, because I mean you got to think about it, 529 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: and I and I think about this for all the time, 530 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Like with artists like now, like the younger generation, they 531 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: keep thinking of, Okay, I want to go viral, like 532 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: going viral and like dude, A lot of times that 533 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: shit is not what you think it is. It's like, 534 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It really it can be 535 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: the kiss of death sometimes, you know what I mean. 536 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: And so for us, you know, back then, this is 537 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, you know whatever. You know, we 538 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: went viral and so your music goes further and faster 539 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: than you have the time to develop as a person, 540 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so it's like, bruh, 541 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: this again. Me and Pool knew each other a grand 542 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: total of probably what two years before we got signed, 543 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: So we didn't know each other, you know what I mean. 544 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: And again, it's one thing to be like, this is 545 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: my man, like we in the calf, we kicking it, 546 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: we in the room, freestyling. But to go from this 547 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: is my man to now this is my business partner 548 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: and we are contractually bound together. That sucks, dude, you 549 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: know what I meant. I mean, looking back, you didn't 550 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: realize it then when you in it, But looking back, 551 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: you're like, yo, that was a fucking lot. Like that 552 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: was a lot. We was trying to navigate together. We 553 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: didn't know each other really honestly, and we didn't know 554 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: the game. We didn't know shit. 555 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 5: And personal lives y'all. 556 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had two kids. Yeah my boys were young 557 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: at the time, but yeah, it was we was a 558 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: lot were trying to figure out. So we just didn't 559 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: have the time the tools to really know how to 560 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: communicate with each other to understand what was going on. 561 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: Like shit, we didn't know each other. So like even now, 562 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: my big thing is I need to understand why right 563 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: your answer is your answer. But if I understand you, 564 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: I know why you answered that way, So now I 565 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: know ship he going to say and why he gonna 566 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: say it before I even asked the question. But I 567 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: didn't know that then, so he didn't know that about me. 568 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: So to be things where in the doc we talk 569 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: about to learn each other, Yeah, it's like doing the labels. 570 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: So when we got off Atlantic, we had Capitol Records, 571 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: one of the signers, I was talking with Shaka Zulu's assistance. 572 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: We were supposed to met with Shaka, so we had 573 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: all these things moving after we got off Atlantic. But 574 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: he don't understand why I'm like, shit, let's give it 575 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: another go. And I don't understand why he like, fuck 576 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: that shit, I'm off that Like I do my own thing. 577 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 1: So just not having that understanding and not knowing how 578 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: to talk to each other. Man, that was I tell 579 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: people all the time. And it's not just in a 580 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: relationship with a partner's spouse, significant other, it's all your relationships. 581 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: If you don't know how to communicate and talk and 582 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: actually listen, because communication listening, if you don't know how 583 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: to do that, that shit gonna it's not gonna end 584 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: up well. And that's kind of where we was. 585 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: We can't be afraid to talk though, like you got to. 586 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: You gotta know, you can fix your phone up to 587 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: all your people say what you need to say, and 588 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: even if they feel a way, that's still gonna be 589 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: a people. 590 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 1: And I think this generation now, you know, like I mean, 591 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: it's my boys, my sons are. They're twenty three and 592 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: I was at twenty three and eighteen. And the thing 593 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: I noticed to their generation, they are they're far more 594 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: emotionally uh intelligent than we are, in tune than we are, 595 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they got they got 596 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: all the TikTok terms and the therapy term like these 597 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: niggas know all that shit, you know what I mean. 598 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're they're far more emotionally. Uh, you know, 599 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: avaible to gotta remember we came up off the a 600 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: man gotta be a man and you don't show your 601 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: feelings and you don't cry. Do that work? That is 602 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: not that don't work? That don't work. And know what 603 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: you was saying, Sean, like about the just that time, 604 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: like you said, we left kind of before that wave. 605 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: You know that nine year span that span from twenty 606 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: ten to twenty nineteen. You know when we came back. 607 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: You know, that just gave us time to grow up. 608 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you know it's it 609 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: was a bill that was gonna it was comeing, do 610 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So it's like we paid 611 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: it then. You know we needed those nine years because 612 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: we had such a quick kind of ascension. But yeah, 613 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: we just needed that time to just grow up. 614 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 4: I saw Donald Glover say recently that all new, most 615 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: most new rappers now, and I think he's kind of 616 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 4: meant like that generation that started in twenty ten. Yeah, 617 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: we're because of Kanye. I would say, Kanye and little brother. 618 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely what I would absolutely yeah, man, Kanye was Uh, 619 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: we had got Kanye. He first came to Durham two 620 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: thousand and four. Three four, yeah, three or four. It 621 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: was before uh I think College Dropout came out. It 622 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: was because get oh yeah, yea, yeah, that might have 623 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: been two three something. It might have been three then yeah, 624 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: three he it was before College Dropout. The Yeah, and 625 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: he had at the time the records that was bubbling. 626 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: He had the stand up by Ludicros that was out, 627 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: and he was about to put out the dis Way 628 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: record he had did with Dilated People's but he was 629 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: in Durham doing some kind of like conference or whatever, 630 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: and so he was there and you know, this is 631 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: before anything. Like he's just you know, chilling, and he 632 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: just would walk around just like wrapping out of nowhere. Okay, 633 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: my knig you find Kanye and Fonte is like like 634 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: he would just be rather like bro. But and I 635 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: thought he was you know, acting, you know what I mean. 636 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: But now you know, twenty plus years later, it's claim like, yeah, 637 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: that wasn't an act. He's the same. It's just on 638 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: a higher platform exactly. But he's the same he's always been. 639 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, but back then, we you know, we did shows, 640 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, we toured with him. Uh you know, we 641 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: opened up and everything and Yeah, man, it was a 642 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: it was a fun time, you know what I mean. 643 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: You know you could kind of see just him putting 644 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: the pieces together, and you could see him also really 645 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of struggling with fame to some degree. Like I 646 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: remember we were at man, this was like south Beat. 647 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: It was on the billboard hip hip hop boys. Yeah, 648 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: we were in like southeast. He was in Miami for 649 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: like a weekend whatever, and he had his Rockefeller chain 650 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 1: and he was we was going to a club. We 651 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: were going to club, and he would take his chain 652 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: out and you know, have his chain out in the club, 653 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: but then the minute we left, he would tuck it 654 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: back in. And that was just something that I always saw, 655 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, when you speak, you know, you ask about 656 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, why weren't we bigger? I think one of 657 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: the things, Well, first of all, it was a choice. 658 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: It definitely was a choice. And that was something that 659 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: we really want to make clear in the documentary that 660 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: the Little Brother story is not a sad story at all, 661 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, it was really 662 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, choices that we made, and I think for me, 663 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: I kind of had my you know, ghost of Christmas 664 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: past present screwage kind of thing. And that I saw 665 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys when they were kind of 666 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: on the come up and was able to kind of 667 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: see what fame if they did to him. Yeah, it 668 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: did to him or and I just you know, like 669 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: they were just you know, prisoners or some of me. 670 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: But to see the effect that had on their lives 671 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: and how they had to really live. It wasn't just yeah, 672 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: everyone wants the money, everyone wants that, but that ain't 673 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: all it come with. 674 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: You know, being scared of fame is just not wanting 675 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: to get robbed. 676 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it was probably a little bit. 677 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 5: Like he wasn't an image that you have to have 678 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: in certain places. 679 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: Leave that it's over. And because I mean because when 680 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: we was when he was like kicking it with us, 681 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: I mean we just we just kicked it. We're just 682 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: kicking it. But when the camera's on, he knew how 683 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: to become Kanye. I gotta I gotta be me a 684 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: different way, much a different way. Yeah, amplified version of 685 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: who I am without the lights in the camera. The 686 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: little brother wasn't willing to perform nah nah man, because 687 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: that's not that's not you know, this is a long game. 688 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: First of all. That's just exhausting, fam and unsustainable, very unsustainable. 689 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: You burn out quick. 690 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 3: But y'all have always shown y'all humor, especially in video. 691 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: But that's who we are naturally. Like who I am 692 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: in this interview is who I am when his interview 693 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: is over, is who I am when I get on 694 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: this plane to go home. It is who I am 695 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: when I get home, Like I am who I am. 696 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: And it's not, well, I talk to people when the 697 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: lights come on. I don't really talk to people when 698 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: the lights go off. But that's the difference. So I 699 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: don't like people. 700 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: That's why would you be in the room, dark room 701 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: with strangers. 702 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: That that that not the conversation having not the conversations. 703 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: It's not the conversation. We're here for, no, man, I mean, 704 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: we just you know, I just saw, like when I 705 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: looked at a lot of the people that you know, 706 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: I looked up to in the game and looked at 707 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: the people that were able to have that longevity, that 708 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: was something that was always important to me, you know 709 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Really being able to stand the test 710 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: of time and be in the game. And you know, 711 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: this is a game where with music and just entertainment 712 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: just art in general. I really do believe that it's 713 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: a game that the longer you play, the luckier you get. 714 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the longer you stay in it. 715 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: But you're only going to stay in it for a 716 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: long time if you're doing things that you enjoy, you 717 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean? You otherwise and like I don't 718 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: care like people they say, you know, looking from the outstanding, like, 719 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: oh man, if I had that opportunity, I would do anything. 720 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: I would do whatever I would And it's like. 721 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 3: Nah, says. 722 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: Yo, listen man, seriously, and you have to you have 723 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: to make those choice because it's this game like me 724 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: and Pool, like we was talking, you know in you know, 725 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: in the in the break room. You know, man, this 726 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: game it don't know what to do with niggas that 727 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: ain't thirsty, Like they don't know what to do with that. 728 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: Like when you are not you know, the whole thing, 729 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: just oh yo, you do whatever. You know what I'm saying, 730 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: that's hungry. That's hungry. You gotta be hungry. That's not 731 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: I'll do whatever. That's not hunger. That's thirst You should 732 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: never be thirsty. 733 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 4: And what you're saying is so true, because when you 734 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 4: talk about these recording contracts or just contracts people be signing. 735 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 4: In general, you can't get somebody to sign some bullshit 736 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 4: if they're not extra thirsty, Like if they our leverage 737 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: and you know they don't need it, they'll negotiate what 738 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 4: they want. 739 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: People will negotiate with you, But that's if they have leverage. 740 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: But most of these contracts, especially back in the day, 741 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: you find somebody that got a little spark that wants 742 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: to be the next artist. They feel like that'll be 743 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: an opportunity for them, and they'll feel like, you know what, 744 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: I'll get to that opportunity and then I'll make it right. 745 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: But then they don't. 746 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: Realize they signed for ten years. 747 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: Take advantage, take advantage of that naive man. There's a 748 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: story here. I feel like I feel like there's a story. 749 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 5: Here's who I am. 750 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 6: But they don't have nothing to do with what I'm 751 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 6: So I'm about to ask right now, what how important? 752 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 6: With all that being said, how important is like awards? 753 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 6: So you like, because you guys are very very very 754 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 6: stern on who y'all are, know that and like you 755 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 6: said earlier, you don't know who you are? 756 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 5: Is conducive to some. 757 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 6: Ship like this or you know, especially nowadays and the 758 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 6: thirst and universus hunger. 759 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 5: So how important are shows and like getting. 760 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: Awards to man, I was I'll go first. I was 761 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: nominated my other group, the Foreign Exchange R and B group, 762 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: we were nominated for a Grammy in twenty ten, and 763 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to go to the Grammys and 764 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,479 Speaker 1: really see what that experience was. And I think having 765 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: that experience just showed me like, yeah, this is kind 766 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: of a racket. Basically, I'm just keeping in a band. 767 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: Like that shit was. I mean, it was, you know, 768 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: it was great to be honored. But again this is 769 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: just the behind the scenes stuff that people don't get, 770 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, when you go 771 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: to these shows first and foremost, you know, at least 772 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: at that time, you know, you still gotta buy tickets, 773 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: you still gotta pay for like this shit don't come 774 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: with a check at all. You can get out there 775 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: and you can try to make something shake on your 776 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: own if you want to do like I know, the 777 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: Routs they do their Grammy Jam session every year whatever, 778 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: So if you want to kind of do that, you can. 779 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: But generally speaking, just as a nominee, like everything is 780 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: on you. So this is you know, you gotta. 781 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: Pay to go to the Grammys if you're nominated. 782 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, like tickets once you get buy a ticket there, 783 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: you get tickets for you. So at the time and 784 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: when they get some discount tickets, right, So it's like 785 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: so if it's me and you were me and him 786 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: just Grammy nominated, it's like, Okay, y'all get free tickets 787 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: to the show, but anyone you want to bring to pay, 788 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: y'all gotta pay, and we'll let you get it for 789 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: half off. But you still got to pay half off still, 790 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: like one hundred dollars. Oh no, no, no, that not at 791 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: the time. But I did it well, I know when 792 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: when I don't know what it is. When dream Bill 793 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: was nominated and Luke when he got a ticket. I 794 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: think dog got a ticket, And I think any extra 795 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: tickets would have been like one hundred dollars or something. 796 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: It might have been more. I don't remember. 797 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 6: I know it was tickets even for the b tables 798 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 6: at some point, like you had to pay. Imber wanted 799 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 6: to go one year and I had to pay, like 800 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 6: it was like three forty or something like that. 801 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: I didn't pay. Yeah, so we might've been getting a 802 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: super dupe you know at the time when I went 803 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: at the time when we went the tickets for the Grammys, 804 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: and again this is twenty ten, so you know, I 805 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: don't know what is now, but yeah, it's twenty ten. 806 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: Like tickets for the Grammys, this was twelve hundred dollars 807 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: a piece. And so in order for us to go, 808 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we met me and Nick 809 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Nicko l in my partner shops to him. We went 810 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: into Our tickets were free. But then everyone else, like 811 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: we brought you know, family, everybody, that was six hundred 812 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: dollars a pop, you know what I'm saying. So that's 813 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: twelve hundred one tickets. Then you got you know, hotels, flights, 814 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: like you know, we got bout clothes everything we had 815 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: to pay like a pr person, you know what I'm saying. 816 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: To like to talk about to walk through the red carpet, 817 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: to talk up your nomination and everything, and you know, 818 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: and I've never like we never talked about it. You know, 819 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: it was something that we didn't just have time to 820 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: get into the dock. But like, man, after I came 821 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: back from the Grammys, like Nigga had to take out 822 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: a loan. Yeah, I had to take out like a person. Alan, 823 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, god, damn, I just spent by damn eight 824 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars at this bitch, you know what I'm saying. 825 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: And so so for me so to rig a question 826 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: with the Awards, I think that and just in my 827 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: experience it was I was glad I got to see it, 828 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: but ultimately I'm just like, nah, I don't Yeah, I'm good, 829 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't care and its yeah, And I mean, listen, 830 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: it's all, you know, to be nominated for a Grammy, 831 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: like to be you know, amongst you know, to sit 832 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: amongst you know, be in that room and see it. 833 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm watching the show and it's like Kenny g 834 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: Is like standing right there like same hair, like say everything. 835 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: And that's another thing too with the Grammys, dude specifically, 836 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: like y'all watch it on TV at home and it's 837 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: that ship like three hours, you know what I'm saying, 838 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: It's longer, it's longer and with no and you it 839 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: ain't no. At the time when we went, the Staples 840 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: Center was like closing down, so like they have like 841 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: the pre Grammy brunch before and you know, you get 842 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: a little food whatever, and then they take you over 843 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: to the main hall to the Grammy ceremony, and all 844 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: the vendors in the Staples Center they shutting down. So 845 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: it's no food like it's niggas, Like it's niggas the 846 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: for real. For hours. It was like one dude we 847 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: caught that had like the little uh he had like 848 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: some candy and ship. He had like you know, little 849 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: snicker bars and damn Eminem's and ship. So we bought 850 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: like a couple, like a bag of eminems and some 851 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: snickers and ship were sitting in that bitch got damn 852 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: taking the eminem's, passing the ship down. And I'm like, 853 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: niggas is supposed to be music great this night and 854 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: don't even got them eminem's in the Staples Center, not 855 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: when we went. I'm just telling I've never been to 856 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: the Grammars, but I've been to a BT Hip Hop 857 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 1: Awards and it was about damn recording. That was about 858 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: five hours and I was like. 859 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: No food. 860 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: We went. 861 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 3: I walked out. 862 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 4: I left taking too long, man, Oh my god, he 863 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 4: really left like we supposed present. 864 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: He was like, I'm giving y'all ten minutes there all 865 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 2: day like, nah, that's. 866 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 4: Really I I'm like, you know, love, I'm like, yeah, 867 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 4: I'm not beating for none of that stuff, no, man. 868 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: And I mean like for me, you know, yeah, it'd 869 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: be cool to be nominated for a Grammy. I ain't 870 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: never been nominated. But at the end of the day, 871 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: it's hey, look, I'm I can't be somewhere too long 872 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: and not just say what the fuck I need to say. 873 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: So listen, I just don't go to places where I'm 874 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: going to be there a long time because. 875 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 3: You might have to say something. 876 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: It might have to say something and let me tell 877 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: you the truth. Yeah, and then learning kind of learning 878 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: what all this is, you know what I mean, Like 879 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: it's a campaign. It's a campaign. It's not a meritocracy. 880 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: Like the minute you and that was I guess the 881 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: thing for me. But once I saw that, you know, 882 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: it was really you know, it's super political, it's super 883 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: you know who you know, like it's a lot of 884 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: those things. But you know, for for for me, all 885 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: I cared about was just making the music. And you know, 886 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: if my music is standing up against somebody, you know, 887 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: just judging on the basis of the music. Once you're 888 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: getting all this other shit. It's just like again it 889 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: was educational. It's like, okay, I know that's what it is. Now, 890 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: all right, cool, I'm good on it, you know what 891 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's the thing I want to make clear. 892 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: It's not that we don't care. We just understand what 893 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: it is and what it's going to take if you 894 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: want to make that run. It's like running for president, 895 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 896 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 4: I don't understand why don't Like, I know y'all got 897 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 4: to go, but why why couldn't y'all just consistently be y'all? 898 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 4: Like I said, you can watch the doc and see 899 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 4: the finality, see the humor. 900 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 3: I was watching the old video that I don't even 901 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 3: know why I just went. 902 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 4: I was watching old videos this weekend and the video 903 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 4: where you let your mom speak the verse. 904 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 3: I like, y'all do stuff like y'all do your own thing. 905 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 3: That's personality driven. 906 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: Why not? We're not thirsty, That's the key. We're not 907 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: because it's been things people like yo, you want to 908 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: do this and be like nah, you know like you 909 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: as how pr got be like yo, I got I 910 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: got I got this. We can do this. We can 911 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 1: do this and we would go right through the list. 912 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: No no, yeah, no, no no, and like anybody else 913 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: will be like, oh, ship, I'm doing all that we like, 914 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: Like it's far more intentional, you know, curate it, Yeah, 915 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: to curate the kind of experience that you want to 916 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: give your fans. So like come in to breakfast club, 917 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: like you know, we both Carolina, Like there's a connection there, 918 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like you don't 919 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: just do everything. It's not just you know, coming in 920 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: with a oozy and just like nah, very targeted shots 921 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: because at this point in the game, you know, we're 922 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: twenty year vets, and you know, the energy that you have, 923 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: you know, you really have to conserve and you only 924 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: got to use it on the ship. That really fucking matters, 925 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can't just be out here, 926 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: in my opinion, you can't just be out here just 927 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: moving crazy and just you know, expending all your energy 928 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: and your time on not half an unlimited amount of 929 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: bullets in the chamber at forty forty five years old. 930 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 4: I don't believe that's no, no, no, you mean time 931 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 4: like physically, how we feel about doing things, because yeah, okay, 932 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 4: because I feel. 933 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: Like you can do whatever you can. You can do it. 934 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean you see, like someone like nas is on 935 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: a run right now performance a sweet Absolutely you can. 936 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want to do. What we 937 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is you gotta be very you gotta 938 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: be strategic about what you're doing, because the energy like 939 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: just putting energy into things that don't make no sense. 940 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, when you're twenty, you got all the fucking 941 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: energy in the world. Forty you like, hold up now, 942 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: and you have to be specific and strategic like you 943 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: were saying, because I'm a firm believer that the work 944 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: you do is the work that you're gonna create more 945 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: for yourself. So if you start doing sucker ship, you 946 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: just gonna get more sucker opportunities, you know. I mean, 947 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: so I'm like, nah, like we're just gone to set 948 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: this ship up off break like this. What we're doing 949 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 1: is what we're not doing and just hold that boundary 950 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: and uh again it just speaks to just I think 951 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 1: just the sustainability of it. You know, we really wanted 952 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: to do this for a long time and uh you know, 953 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: we knew we wasn't gonna do that just doing moving 954 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: like how we saw a lot of other rappers were 955 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: moving and just a lot of just entertainment was moving. 956 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: We had to kind of come and do something that 957 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: was very specific to who we were, and we kind 958 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: of had a chance to go through that again with Luke. 959 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, you know, but yeah, it's working with 960 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: Luke signed to Dreatville and just doing his album, and 961 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: he was very adamant, like I'm gonna do me like 962 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: like I'm not. I'm not you know, yes, I want things, 963 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do what's comfortable for me, like who 964 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: It was a key point conversation we had and he 965 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want to be able to be 966 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: me everywhere. And I said, well, if that's what you 967 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: want to do, this is this is kind of the 968 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: road map for it. And and that's just who he is, 969 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: Like he's not a big mixy person. He's not you know, 970 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: he deals with anxiety. He talks about it, and so 971 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: we have to be very strategic and how we move 972 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: with him, and it's just traces of how we move 973 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: and who we are. I see that and him and 974 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: so I was kind of perfect for that because I'm like, 975 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: I know what this is, don Bro. And it was 976 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: just one of the things where it was like, yo, 977 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: this is this is day ja vu like a muff 978 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: because you can't because the thing is like and that's 979 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: again with the artists. Now, I just kind of treat 980 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of keep telling them like, bro y'a don't understand. 981 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: I know this shit is crazy, but whatever it is 982 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: you're into, you can find an audience for that, Like 983 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, in particular cars and he's the cars painting. 984 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, if you if you don't want to 985 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: do breakfast club, like if you if that's not your 986 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: thing and you just want to get your Bob bross 987 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: on and do little Instagram snippers and you paint, you 988 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: can do that and that shitll go off. You'll find 989 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: a community people that are into it. There's a market 990 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: for it, and you can go directly to them. And 991 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: that was just something that wasn't really you know, back 992 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: you know to your original question earlier about you know, 993 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 1: why we weren't bigger. I just think at that time 994 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: there were choices, definite choices that we made. But also 995 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: it was very much marketing back then wasn't really tailored 996 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: to the artist. It was just kind of a one 997 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: size fits all. This is album coming, This is what 998 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: needs to happen. 999 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 3: Hold his bottle knowledge you going to this radio. 1000 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: Station and it's like bru, Like we don't even drink 1001 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: like that, Like this doesn't make sense. You know what 1002 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, don't you know, no moral objection to it, 1003 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: but I'm like, this doesn't translate. And you just didn't 1004 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: really have the latitude to figure that out back then 1005 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: in a way the artists do now, and so it 1006 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 1: really is a beautiful time. And that's why we wanted 1007 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: to take advantage now of just being able to go 1008 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: direct to consumer, go directly to our audience with the documentary, 1009 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: and it's just been it's been a beautiful experience. 1010 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 5: How many young boys are like just like this, like 1011 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 5: we don't want to change. 1012 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 6: We don't want to I don't want it to do 1013 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 6: all of this that X Y Z is doing to 1014 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 6: get where X Y and Z is at. 1015 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 5: And you know if I never get there, I never get. 1016 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 6: There, Like this interview and your documentary is definitely gonna 1017 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 6: like that. That's good for people because other guys like 1018 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 6: you out there, young boys who like underground Wrap and 1019 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 6: they have about things that they feel like won't be 1020 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 6: accepted or conducive to what today's hip hop is or 1021 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 6: today's rap or whatever, and it's his inspirational to a 1022 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 6: lot of boys in a lot of. 1023 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 1: Roman Thank you. That was that was part of the hope, 1024 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: was that people can hear our story and see some 1025 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: of themselves in our story, and that's that's something we 1026 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: have that we didn't have that rop. Yeah, yeah, it 1027 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: was like, hey man, it's the way you gotta do it. 1028 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: Do it. 1029 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 4: I got too more questions because I know jefs hungry 1030 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 4: and she want to go. But one hundred three thousand 1031 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 4: said he doesn't rap anymore because he's forty eight and 1032 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 4: he has nothing to talk about it being ol g's 1033 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 4: and y'all forties. 1034 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 3: How did that statement make you feel? 1035 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: We talked about it on something else. Man. It's like, 1036 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: we look at ourselves as writers and you don't have 1037 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: an a's limit. You know, we're not athletes. We're not 1038 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, out there trying to dunk, and we're right, 1039 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: you should be getting better with time or even to 1040 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: your point about killing Mike and just you know what 1041 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: I mean, your head, you know when you get old. 1042 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: There was a there's an arc I read like years 1043 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 1: ago that talked about how most creative breakthroughs were artists. 1044 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: Most creative breakthroughs happened in like your late thirties early forties, 1045 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: because that's when both sides of your brain learned to 1046 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: talk to each other, you know what I mean. And 1047 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: so that just I was like, damn, that's right. And so, 1048 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: you know, it really is a thing where in this 1049 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: business again, it just goes against everything because if you 1050 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: ain't owned by twenty five, you know, you you done 1051 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: lost it. And you know a lot of you know, 1052 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: labels and just you know, a lot of industry people 1053 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: they're reluctant to work with older talent, what they perceive 1054 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: as older talent, when that's the time when you know 1055 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: you're at your best, you know what I'm saying, because 1056 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: you've lived a life. I remember we interviewed Chris Rock 1057 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: on QLs sometime back, and he was talking about how 1058 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: Supreme Quest of Supreme. Here I'm just talking another iHeart 1059 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: property but yeah shouts the Quest Love and my people's 1060 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: team Supreme. But yeah, we was he was interview Chris 1061 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: Rock and he was talking about how, you know, in 1062 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: the early days of his stand up, he didn't really 1063 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: have shit to talk about He was like, you know, 1064 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: your early age stand up, it's just it's just dick 1065 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: jokes shit, because it's like, what do you have? But 1066 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: it's not until you go and you live and you 1067 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: get divorced, you have kids, you damn like, you know, 1068 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: you really have things to talk about. And so that 1069 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 1: was kind of for us, you know, with the Andre statement, 1070 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: we talked about it, but yeah, I mean, it's kind 1071 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: of all in the eye to be holder. If he 1072 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: feels that he doesn't have anything to say at forty eight, 1073 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: that's his creative journey. That's how he feels, you know 1074 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: what I mean it and it takes time to figure out. 1075 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: You know. With Johnwick rap, we've heard so long that 1076 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: rap is a young man's game and who you are 1077 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: you know when you're young, so much of that is 1078 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: driven by hunger and like anger and just trying to 1079 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 1: make it. You know, nigga, what what do you rap 1080 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: about that? After you done sold ten million records and 1081 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: he ain't struggling no more, And it's. 1082 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 3: All about what you are willing to share, right like that? 1083 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I don't we don't have to get on this 1084 00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 4: radio and talk about our family. We don't have to 1085 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 4: talk about our kids. We do, but we don't have to. 1086 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 4: I don't got to talk about mental health and going 1087 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 4: to therapy. But it's about what you are willing to share. 1088 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 1: Share. 1089 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 3: And my last question is what does twenty years feel like? Ya? 1090 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: Like a good night's sleep? Absolutely, like legit, A lot 1091 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: of this feels like a year ago, two years ago. 1092 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean we lost two years, but with the pandemic 1093 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: we lost a little bit of the time. But nah, 1094 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: it don't feel it don't feel like twenty years at all. 1095 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: Like it's it's one of them things where you look 1096 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: back and be like, shit, like I'm about to be 1097 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: forty four, man, I was just twenty one, Brian like 1098 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: walking around like what's going on here? And so it's 1099 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 1: and that's a blessing, you know what I mean. Like 1100 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 1: it ain't been a hard twenty for us. I mean, 1101 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: we've been through our share of things, but you know 1102 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: we ain't have you know, no overdoses, no nah man, 1103 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 1: you know, nobody locked up. You know what I'm saying, 1104 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: We ain't had none of them type of issue. So 1105 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 1: it's just one of them things, you know, you blessed 1106 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: that it feels like it only been a short amount 1107 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: of time because that means we got twenty more plus 1108 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: to go. It's just gratitude. I think that's what it 1109 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: feels like for me. It's just gratitude just looking at 1110 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: you know a lot of cats that we came in 1111 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: the game with that you know, didn't make it for whatever, 1112 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: for various reasons, you know what I'm saying. And you know, 1113 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: and guys that were and that were like crazy talented, 1114 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It's just like, oh my god, 1115 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: why didn't this person get this? And you know, it 1116 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: really is just a lesson. You know, Man, the race 1117 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: ain't always to the swift, you know what I mean, 1118 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 1: it really is. You know, when you see somebody that's 1119 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 1: on or popping or whatever, there are a million different 1120 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: factors that play into that person having that platform, the 1121 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: least of which is probably their talent. Yeah you know 1122 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Talent, don't. I mean that shit is 1123 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, so so for us to just 1124 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: you know, still be here and you know, twenty years 1125 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 1: later and just to be not just still here and 1126 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: still like revelepment, but just sharper mentally, Like I really, 1127 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 1: I really feel like as a writer I'm just getting started. 1128 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: Like there's just things and that you know as an 1129 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 1: MC and you know, just as a creator. There's just 1130 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: tools in my toolbox that I have now that I 1131 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: didn't have twenty years ago. And uh it just I 1132 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,439 Speaker 1: just feel reinvigorated, you know what I mean? And even 1133 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: to that point for me, like people told me my 1134 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: best two albums writing has been my last two? You 1135 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: like wine? 1136 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 3: Will we ever get a Fonte Pool Knife one? 1137 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: Dude? Nah, damn. I didn't even think about it. 1138 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 2: It was like maybe there was a possibility a couple 1139 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:37,959 Speaker 2: of years. 1140 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 5: Why, Like they don't know, they don't understand. 1141 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: You know what is we gotta. 1142 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 3: Watch the die? 1143 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the doc. I mean, we talked about everything. 1144 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 3: But it don't seem like it's none of y'all can't recordize. 1145 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 2: It seems like they could be like at least maybe 1146 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 2: it's it's. 1147 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: Not as y'all. It's not everything about reconciling anything. It's 1148 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 1: just live. It's just that's just not what it's gonna be. Yeah, 1149 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: you know little brothers Fante and Pool and Knife Wonder 1150 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: is nfe Wonder and you know, we wish him all 1151 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: the best and you know whatever, all his endeavors and 1152 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing us and that's just what it is. 1153 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 6: You Beyonce, what's up with Michelle and Kelly and Farah and. 1154 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: Come on, like she said, Pharah, that ain't might got 1155 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: a shot? You know. 1156 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 3: They started with. 1157 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 5: Yes, they say no, you're gonna be like damn for real. 1158 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: Nigga said no. 1159 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 4: But it's it's not the same because definitely, child, we 1160 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 4: we got like it felt like we. 1161 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 3: Got closure with that. You know, I don't we got 1162 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 3: closure with Little Brother. 1163 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 1: The documentary is closure documentary. It's all sometimes we're not 1164 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: we're not afforded the closure we want. I'm a girl, 1165 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: get the closure you get. Check out the documentary. Learn 1166 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 1: about Little Brother. 1167 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 3: Made the Lord watch the Little Brother. 1168 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 4: That was fun that that that took me like watching 1169 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 4: videos because you know, we weren't even thinking about video. 1170 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 3: I wasn't see that. 1171 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: I was like, damn and were surprised we even had that. 1172 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, hell know, he wasn't think an't you know who 1173 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 5: he was? 1174 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: And I was not. 1175 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 3: He ran over there and got some cream for. 1176 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I was, he was. You got you 1177 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: got three three it's Little Brother. Thank you for having 1178 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: us congratulations than I love the Baltimore. I was hearing 1179 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: to tears and I was like yes, so congratulations, Breakfast Club. 1180 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 1: Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast 1181 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: Club