WEBVTT - 25 Greatest Science Ideas Countdown: Day 2

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Part Time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope

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<v Speaker 1>and iHeartRadio. Guess what will?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that Mango?

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<v Speaker 1>So welcome back to day two of our countdown of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty five greatest science ideas in the past twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years. And you know what's funny is when I

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<v Speaker 1>was driving around last night, I saw a car with

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<v Speaker 1>a bumper sticker and this is true. It said science

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<v Speaker 1>is like magic, but it's real. Okay, that's a real

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<v Speaker 1>bumper sticker.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, you know. And considering we've already covered

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<v Speaker 2>how to get catch up to flow smoothly out of

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle, and a scientist to capture the actual smell

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<v Speaker 2>of space in a perfume, also a cure for hamster

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<v Speaker 2>jet lag, I'd say we're off to a pretty magical star.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also weird, but it's a pretty magical start. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But as soon as I saw that sticker, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to roll down my window to yell, Hey, science fans,

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to Part Time Genius on your favorite podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You are not telling the that is not a mango move.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like they might like the show well,

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<v Speaker 2>and actually I feel like you forgot to tell them

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<v Speaker 2>to leave a rating and review. That's that's your other

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<v Speaker 2>go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I'm sure they'll figure it out in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>When do you say we get started with day two

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<v Speaker 1>of our incredible countdown?

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait, let's dive in. Hey, their podcast listeners, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Part Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and as always

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here with my good friend mangesh Hot ticket there

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<v Speaker 2>and over there in the booth knows deep in a

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<v Speaker 2>book of magic tricks. It's our pal and producer Dylan Fake.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might have inspired him to take up

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<v Speaker 1>this new hobby with that little story.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as he doesn't run off to Vegas without us,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's okay. So Mango, I'm really excited to

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<v Speaker 2>continue this countdown because today we're talking about bike helmets,

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about virtual dolphins, lobsters, and strangely, a healthy

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<v Speaker 2>diet that doesn't involve lobsters unfortunately. So let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>With Okay, Well, so how about we kick this off

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<v Speaker 1>with a little pop quiz. What would you describe as

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a modern healthy diet?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, obviously, I think it involves a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fruits and veggies, good fats. You hear about olive oil, fish, nuts,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some eggs, beans, poultry for protein, red meat, and

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol in moderation of course, and not too much candy,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bummer, like those atomic fireballs we've been

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<v Speaker 2>sending out, So just those in moderation as well. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are the things that come to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you just described the classic Mediterranean diet, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's how people in the blue zones eat right

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<v Speaker 1>like people who live along I'm in place like Sardinia, Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>Italian Islands, Ikorea and Greece, and people tend to eat

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<v Speaker 1>really healthy lives there. But what if I told you

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<v Speaker 1>there might be an even healthier diet and instead of

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<v Speaker 1>tomatoes and olive oil, we should be eating cassava and

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<v Speaker 1>howler monkeys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't see that went coming. I think you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to give me some pretty convincing evidence. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm up for this. I don't know. You might

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<v Speaker 2>call it like the Temple of Doom diet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like it's a good derivative from the

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana Jones franchise. But let me tell you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about it. So, over the past decade, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been a number of studies involving the chi Mayne people

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<v Speaker 1>and indigenous people native to the lowlands of the Bolivian Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Chimyine live off the land, far from modern conveniences,

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<v Speaker 1>and they basically have like little to no access to healthcare,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the kind you and I are familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>And for some reason they are freakishly healthy. Really, so

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<v Speaker 1>if you take heart disease right like here in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>about one in four people over the age of forty

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<v Speaker 1>five shows signs of a clogged heart, but the Chimene zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, Lancet reported that, quote, the Chimyne have

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest prevalence of coronary atherosclerosis of any population known

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<v Speaker 1>to science.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that incredible? Yeah? So no heart problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They also don't get high blood pressure or type

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<v Speaker 1>two diabetes. They show little evidence of asthma or autoimmune diseases.

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<v Speaker 1>Even their brains appear to be special. Like as we

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<v Speaker 1>age are brains typically atrophy, but for some reason, the

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<v Speaker 1>brains of older Chimyne people deteriorate at a rate that's

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<v Speaker 1>slower than seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, so they just never get sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the weird thing. They do get sick

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot. They are outdoorsy, their lifestyle exposes them

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<v Speaker 1>to like an insane bacterial load, viral and parasitic infections.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy percent of their population has parasitic roundworm infections, and

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<v Speaker 1>because they get sick so often, they high levels of inflammation. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the strange part is that for most of us, inflammation

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<v Speaker 1>would increase our chance of heart disease and other chronic ailments,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for the Chimne. Their good health is so

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<v Speaker 1>puzzling that scientists actually gave it a name, the Chimeyne

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<v Speaker 1>inflammation paradox. Now, in recent years, researchers have descended on

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<v Speaker 1>the population to learn their secrets, and so far their

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<v Speaker 1>insights have gone against the grain of what we know

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<v Speaker 1>about healthy living. So take those roundworm infections right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>on the face of it, it sounds pretty unhealthy, but

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<v Speaker 1>researchers have actually discovered that this particular roundworm alters the

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<v Speaker 1>immune system in a way that might actually improve female fertility.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, it's not crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And most chi Mayne only got six or seven hours

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep, and that's below the eight or nine hours

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<v Speaker 1>that doctors typically recommend. Here, right, it's accepted wisdom that

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<v Speaker 1>inadequate sleep can make you age faster, and yet tests

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<v Speaker 1>that measure aging was called intrinsic age acceleration, show that

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<v Speaker 1>the chi Mayne age slower than just about everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. But back to the idea of the diet.

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<v Speaker 2>What does their diet have to do with any of this?

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<v Speaker 1>So historically, obesity is rare among the Chimyenne, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they eat a lot more than we do. The typical

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<v Speaker 1>Chimaye women eat six hundred more calories than the average

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<v Speaker 1>American women in a given day. Okay, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>two big differences here, right, So First of all, their

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<v Speaker 1>diet is composed completely differently than ours. They eat only

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<v Speaker 1>four to fifty grams of fat a day Americans eat

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<v Speaker 1>twice that. They also get more protein than we do,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as fifty grams more per day than the

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<v Speaker 1>average American, and they consume twice as much potassium, but

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<v Speaker 1>just one eighth the amount of sodium. The other difference

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<v Speaker 1>is activity level. The Chimayne actually average about sixteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>steps every single while, and they maintain this level of

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<v Speaker 1>physical activity late into their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Their apple watches and garments must just be giving them

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<v Speaker 2>so many awards for all that activity. All right, so

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<v Speaker 2>we've got low fat, high protein tons of activity. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>what kinds of foods are they actually eating? Like what's

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<v Speaker 2>on the menu for the average chimne home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So for starches and veggies, they tend to eat

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<v Speaker 1>like plantains, cassava, rice, and that's about it. Their primary

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<v Speaker 1>seafood is a fish called the trahira, also known as

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<v Speaker 1>the wolffish because of its dog like teeth. Then for protein,

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<v Speaker 1>they eat a lineup of local mammals, including capabera, the pecari,

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<v Speaker 1>which is basically a small wild pig. They also eat pakas,

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<v Speaker 1>which are these giant rodents with markings kind of like deer,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kutta Mundi's, which well, it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>cross between a lemur, a raccoon, and a small beer.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's about it. They don't eat that much else.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of their calories come from just nine different foods,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty counterintuitive. Like here in the US, we're

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<v Speaker 1>always told we should be eating the rainbow of vegetables

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<v Speaker 1>and a wide variety of foods, but that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>they do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's super interesting. I want to say that I'm sold here,

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<v Speaker 2>because it does feel like they've figured out the perfect diet.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know how you could achieve that here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like you're able to go to the store

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<v Speaker 2>and pick up a code of Mundi, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd never heard of that before. You said it's a

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<v Speaker 2>cross between a lemur, a raccoon, and a small base.

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<v Speaker 2>It all looks like a small I got it. I

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<v Speaker 2>got it. But anyway, that sort of food isn't exactly

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<v Speaker 2>accessible here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're not finding it out a barbecue. This dietary

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<v Speaker 1>advice isn't realistic for people like you and me, And

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<v Speaker 1>lately even the Chimene have been having a hard time

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<v Speaker 1>following this diet, and that's because modern life has started

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<v Speaker 1>intruding on their space, right on their villages. Kids are

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<v Speaker 1>now eating pasta there and processed foods and sugars. After

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<v Speaker 1>generations of this diet that's like helped them defy the odds,

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<v Speaker 1>their health's actually getting worse, it's kind of sad to see.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're gaining weight. So it's possible that the world's

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<v Speaker 1>healthiest diet might actually be on the verge of extinction.

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<v Speaker 2>That's rough this has become a universal problem of trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pry the sugary snacks away from our kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so they don't ruin their appetites before they eat a

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<v Speaker 2>good dinner. It's just it's still different. Like here we're

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<v Speaker 2>eating chicken. There they're eating capy bara, which I actually

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that was something people late.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So now, if you don't want to eat a

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<v Speaker 1>capy berra, I certainly don't blame you, but maybe you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to hug one. Today on our Instagram, we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>having a little contest. We're giving one lucky listener a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful and ridiculous plushy capabera for them to not eat.

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<v Speaker 1>So get the details and enter to win at part

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So for number eighteen, I got admit that

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<v Speaker 2>last story did make me a little bit hungry, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna stick with that theme. Here's a question for you, mego,

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<v Speaker 2>do you like lobster I'm kind of like so so

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<v Speaker 2>on it. Okay, I like lobster rolls, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>love lobster meat that much. I'm also not into working

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<v Speaker 2>for my food. Other than pistachios and bananas, maybe boiled peanuts,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really like cracking foods open with my fingers

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<v Speaker 2>and pulling chunks of meat out of there. You put

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<v Speaker 2>it that way, Well, I actually do like lobster, although

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that I get to have it that often.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyone who's ever dined on whole lobster knows it

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<v Speaker 2>is not the easiest thing to eat. So, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to break it apart with mallets and crackers

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<v Speaker 2>and stick little forks in there to retrieve every last

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of meat. And if you don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing, it is a daunting task.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really intimidating, especially for you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a vegetarian for a large part of my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of why I'm not as attracted to it, right. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sort of intimidating, and you know, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>do know what you're doing, it's messy, like it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the only foods that served with a bib and

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<v Speaker 2>wet wipes. But I've actually got a pretty big solve

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<v Speaker 2>for you here. This goes back to two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 2>A man named Johnny Hathaway was thinking about this problem.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a Native manor and he and his family had

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<v Speaker 2>opened a seafood restaurant and a touristy part of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>So every summer the place was flooded with people who

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<v Speaker 2>craved lobster, but, as he told us in an interview,

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<v Speaker 2>customers were turned off by the mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I soon found out that people really wanted the food,

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<v Speaker 3>not the animal.

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<v Speaker 2>He thought, there has to be an easier way to

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<v Speaker 2>cook and serve lobster, and it turned out there was.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got three words for you, mango, high pressure processing,

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<v Speaker 2>you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that you're saying these things expecting me to

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<v Speaker 1>have a reaction, but I have no idea what any

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<v Speaker 1>of that means.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, in the simplest terms, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like pasteurization, except it uses cold water and pressure instead

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<v Speaker 2>of high heat. So the process is really useful because

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<v Speaker 2>it kills the pathogens and the microorganisms that can actually

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<v Speaker 2>make food spoil. Now, one day, Johnny happened to be

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<v Speaker 2>chatting with someone from the main lobster promotion Council is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a collective for the state's prize industry, and

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<v Speaker 2>she told him she'd heard about some guy in New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans who were using high pressure processing to kill bacteria

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<v Speaker 2>and oysters. That's a big problem. By the way, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people enjoy eating oysters raw, so having the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to eliminate that bacteria without cooking was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. And it gets better. So the folks in

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<v Speaker 2>Louisiana were finding that putting oysters in a high pressure

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<v Speaker 2>machine didn't just make them safe to eat, it actually

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<v Speaker 2>also shucked them. That's pretty magical. Now, just completely detached

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<v Speaker 2>the meat from the shell. And what is lobster if

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<v Speaker 2>not a larger and more complicated oyster. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some of Breene biologists out there might

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with that. H No simple assessment continues, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Facts, manu. So when Johnny heard this, he knew he

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<v Speaker 2>had to see this for himself. So he got in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with the oyster guys and they were like, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anything about lobsters, but we're up for trying

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<v Speaker 2>an experiment. So here's Johnny again.

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<v Speaker 3>So I brought some lobster down in New Orleans and

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe what it did.

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<v Speaker 3>We put it in the machine, we take it out,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a very simple process. But what it does

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<v Speaker 3>is it breaks the membrane between the shell and the meat,

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<v Speaker 3>and it allows you to take out the meat raw.

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<v Speaker 3>The meat slides right out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just want to take a second to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>the historic nature of that moment, right like it was

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<v Speaker 2>the first time in human in history that anyone had

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<v Speaker 2>shucked a raw lobster. It's just not possible otherwise. So

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<v Speaker 2>until that fateful day, the only way to break meat

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<v Speaker 2>from the membrane was by cooking it. So Johnny heads home,

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<v Speaker 2>he tracks down a high pressure processor online. He calls

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<v Speaker 2>it the big mother Shucker because this thing is huge.

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<v Speaker 3>The first machine I bought was sixteen feet high and

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<v Speaker 3>weigh to eighty thousand pounds, and all it is is

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<v Speaker 3>a cylinder that you'd fill with water, no heat, no chemicals,

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<v Speaker 3>It's just water and you turn on the pressure and

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<v Speaker 3>find the right pressure. The cycle last maybe three minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>So once he had it up and running and got

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<v Speaker 2>the settings dialed in, Johnny and his employees were able

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<v Speaker 2>to process four to six million lobsters every single week.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know there were that many lobsters out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to understand there's a lot of tradition

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<v Speaker 2>in the main lobster industry and that's part of the

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<v Speaker 2>cultural importance here. But that also meant that Johnny had

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<v Speaker 2>to sell the idea of this pressure shucked raw lobsters

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<v Speaker 2>to people who'd been doing things the old way for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. You could see a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>might just take joy in that process, right, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like an art in itself. But luckily his raw Lobster

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<v Speaker 2>Meet won two awards at the two thousand and seven

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<v Speaker 2>Brussels International Seafood Show Best New Food Service Product, Most

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<v Speaker 2>Convenient New Seafood Product. Now that was a pretty definitive

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<v Speaker 2>seal of approval, and it helped Maynor see the commercial

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<v Speaker 2>potential of what he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Up to other processors and fishermen alike. They saw, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this opens up another way for us to market our product. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have to just sell live anymore. We can

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<v Speaker 3>sell it to processes, and processes can do more value

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<v Speaker 3>added products.

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<v Speaker 2>It opened up new markets now, according to Johnny, Chef's

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<v Speaker 2>love the convenience of raw lobster. It gives them more

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<v Speaker 2>options for cooking. Before, if you wanted a suv lobster,

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<v Speaker 2>it had to be parboiled first, and as Johnny says,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody buys a cook steak and then cooks it again.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's one other benefit to this process that's worth mentioning.

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<v Speaker 3>The pressure actually kills the lobster within six seconds. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's pretty good when you think about the

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<v Speaker 3>animals in the world how they're treated. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was very important.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to eat lobster, that is a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>humane way to do it. Anyway, since Johnny's big new discovery,

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<v Speaker 2>a few other high pressure processors have actually opened up

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<v Speaker 2>in Maine, and Johnny's thinking about new ways to put

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<v Speaker 2>the technology to use. For example, he's working with the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Maine and research involving crab and lobster shells,

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<v Speaker 2>which contain a polymer called kitan. Now it's already being

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<v Speaker 2>used in agriculture as fertilizer, but apparently may have other

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<v Speaker 2>applications including helping with skin problems and wound healing. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you can separate a bunch of crustaceans from their

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<v Speaker 2>shells in a matter of minutes, it makes all the

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<v Speaker 2>testing and advances a whole lot more possible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting. You know, I wonder if it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to affect the all you can eat crabshats and like Maryland.

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<v Speaker 1>In places like that where you know you've got all

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<v Speaker 1>this old bay and you're often drinking beer because like

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<v Speaker 1>it takes such a long time and like it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get the meat out. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very different process here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to have it comes straight down a shoot

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<v Speaker 2>into your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not touch that dial. We will be right back

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<v Speaker 1>with more great science ideas right after the break. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to Part Time Genius, where we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five greatest science ideas of the last twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>So this one is close to my heart. Will Were

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<v Speaker 1>you a bike rider as a kid?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. I rode my bike every day to school from

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<v Speaker 2>really second grade on all the way, yeah, all the

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<v Speaker 2>way through elementary school. I loved riding my bike.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you have to wear a helmet?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was actually talking about this just the other

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<v Speaker 2>day to somebody that this was on the front end

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<v Speaker 2>of kids wearing helmets, right, And of course my parents

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<v Speaker 2>maybe wear a helmet, and I'm thankful for that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of the few in our group of

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<v Speaker 2>friends that would ride to school that were wearing helmets.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, I'm glad that there's no weirdness around that today.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I was one of the few wearing them

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<v Speaker 2>at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like it is so normalized today and

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<v Speaker 1>the helmets are so much less clunky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventh grade, with no warning, my dad went out

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<v Speaker 1>and did two things. First, he bought his helmets and

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<v Speaker 1>insisted we wear them, which you know makes sense and

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<v Speaker 1>i'd of course two with my kids now. But he

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<v Speaker 1>also found these white poles that he put on our

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<v Speaker 1>like very thin bubbles they put on with orange flags,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Riding above us. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>It was partially because like we lived on a hill

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<v Speaker 1>and so like if you went up the hill, you

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<v Speaker 1>want cars to be able to see what was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was kind of the equivalent of wearing headgear

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<v Speaker 1>to like a middle school dance, right, So like I

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<v Speaker 1>used to bike everywhere to the local convenience store to

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<v Speaker 1>like cull to sack. You know, it was just transportation

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<v Speaker 1>for us, and and then immediately I start walking. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>helmets were really a deterrent. And one thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really fascinating is there's a company called Holdving,

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<v Speaker 1>which has created something that's basically a scarf like technology

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<v Speaker 1>that inflates on impact like an airbag.

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<v Speaker 2>So is this like an invisible airbag helmet or like,

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<v Speaker 2>how I'm not picturing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. This thing is amazing and middle school me

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<v Speaker 1>would have been so psyched to seen one of these

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<v Speaker 1>or had one of these. But I've been watching videos

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<v Speaker 1>online of people crashing and one second it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they're wearing nothing on their head, and next it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like someone like pulled over like an airbag hoodie. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is the invention of two brilliant Swedish women

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<v Speaker 1>named Anna Hoppt and Teres Alston. They designed the helmet

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and five as part of a master's

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<v Speaker 1>thesis in industrial design at Lund University, and they tricked

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<v Speaker 1>it out with some really interesting features. You do have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the helmet charge and you have to switch

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<v Speaker 1>it on when you're riding, but you can change out

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<v Speaker 1>the colors so like you can have the scarf like

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<v Speaker 1>thing match your outfit. It comes with a black box

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<v Speaker 1>and it records the last ten seconds before a crash,

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<v Speaker 1>which can actually be helpful if you're trying to determine

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<v Speaker 1>fault in like the accident or something like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>according to tests done by engineers at Stanford the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing actually protected people from concussions eight times better than

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<v Speaker 1>traditional bike helmets. Unfortunately, however, the cost ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>a factor. In a twenty fifteen review from The Guardian,

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<v Speaker 1>they said a new helmet cost about two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty pounds and if you get in a crash you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have to replace it. Polving did replace the

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<v Speaker 1>helmets for about one hundred pounds once you bought your

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<v Speaker 1>first one, but it really wasn't cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that this goes back over a decade now,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm curious, like, can I get a hold of

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<v Speaker 2>a whole thing now?

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<v Speaker 1>Not easily. So the founders left the company in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and the company went bankrupt in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>But what Anna Andrees did actually opened people up to

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<v Speaker 1>new ways of thinking about bike helmets. There's an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>company out of Germany called in Flabby that actually has

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<v Speaker 1>an ultra thin geometric helmet. You fill it with a

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<v Speaker 1>bike pump and it fills these air pockets to protect

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<v Speaker 1>your head. And the best part is you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>fold it up and scrunch it up so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>carrying this clunky helmet around it just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>sticks in a bag or a pocket. That said, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if someone tries to improve on the

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<v Speaker 1>last released version of the whole thing and then comes

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<v Speaker 1>out with a better inflatable helmet. Also, just for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make clear that I do wear a helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>These days, I'm a little less worried about what kids

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<v Speaker 1>in my neighborhood think about me. But I do wear

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<v Speaker 1>it when I bike around New York on city bikes

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<v Speaker 1>with my family, so you don't have to worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll check that one off the list, all right. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's safe to say that VR hasn't quite

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<v Speaker 2>taken off in the way we might have expected it to,

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<v Speaker 2>at least not yet. But one use of it that's

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting is in pain management, so more specifically having

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<v Speaker 2>patients virtually swim with dolphins. That's actually helped patients manage

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<v Speaker 2>their chronic pain better. Have you heard about this?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>According to a piece on the radio station WAB, a

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<v Speaker 2>seventy year old military vet told reporters, it's fantastic. I

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<v Speaker 2>really feel like I'm there. I get a strong feeling

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<v Speaker 2>of pleasure, relaxation and peace, just nice to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, he swims three times a day for ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes a session and it's had a remarkable effect on

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<v Speaker 2>his ability to manage his pain. That is really cool,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really that effective apparently so. And the truth is,

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<v Speaker 2>doctors like Brennan Spiegel at Cedar Sinai in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been looking for alternative ways to help patients manage

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<v Speaker 2>their pain and reduce their reliance on heavy prescription pills

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time now, and VR actually seems to

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<v Speaker 2>have an impact, at least according to the paper he

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<v Speaker 2>published in the journal Plus one Now. In his study,

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<v Speaker 2>Spiegel took patients who were either experiencing pain from cancer

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe had severe orthopedic pain, and he divided these

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<v Speaker 2>patients into two different groups. So one group got VR

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<v Speaker 2>headsets and was told they could use as much VR

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<v Speaker 2>as they wanted, but they were asked to do it

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<v Speaker 2>at least three times a day for ten minutes a session. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>the other group got to watch a wellness channel on TV. So,

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<v Speaker 2>as Spiegel put it, VR is thought to create an

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<v Speaker 2>immersive distraction that restricts the brain from processing pain. And

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<v Speaker 2>what they found was that when they used a zero

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<v Speaker 2>to ten pain scale, the group that us VR three

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<v Speaker 2>times a day actually saw a drop in their pain

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<v Speaker 2>levels by two full points.

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<v Speaker 1>That is pretty remarkable, And i'd actually heard of VR

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<v Speaker 1>being used for immersion therapy, like people have a tough

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<v Speaker 1>time with heights, having the VR stimulate like you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>out of a tall building, or people who are afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of public speaking, you get to talk to a virtual

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<v Speaker 1>crowd and build up a stamina or muscle skill. But

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of swimming with dolphins is just so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so different from like facing your fears.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it really is. And scientists are looking for how

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<v Speaker 2>VR might be useful in other painful conditions, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from managing labor pains to distracting patients when they get

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<v Speaker 2>painful infusions for cancer treatments. It's pretty remarkable what can

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<v Speaker 2>happen here. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a quick one that gives me a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of empathy for that character pig Pen in Nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the one with the dirty cloud around him all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love pig Pen, but it turns out he is

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<v Speaker 1>not alone. Apparently we all have a swarm of bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>that we're constantly shedding in the space around us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>known as a microbial cloud, and according to a team

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<v Speaker 1>of scientists at the University of Oregon, everyone is surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by a unique cloud. It's about ninety centimeters wide, made

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<v Speaker 1>up of millions of bacteria. And when we walk through

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<v Speaker 1>each other's clouds, our clouds mingle and we actually change

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<v Speaker 1>each other's microbiomes.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a little wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The way a BBC article put it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>grosser than that. They're right, quote, walk through someone else's

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<v Speaker 1>cloud and it'll rain bacteria on your skin and be

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<v Speaker 1>breathed into your lungsaw.

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<v Speaker 2>That is really gross. And I think the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>stuck out to me is ninety centimeters Like that's not tiny,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like that's actually a meaningful But yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a really gross description.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the article quotes one biologist as saying the

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<v Speaker 1>findings were quote simply gross. Microbiologists are disturbed. That's pretty great, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's just one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>you live with forever, you don't really think about, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when you happen to, like peer under a microscope,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more complicated than you could ever imagine it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm guessing a shower doesn't help the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you cannot scrub this away. But the way the

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<v Speaker 1>scientists rand the experiment was pretty fascinating. So they basically

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<v Speaker 1>had people hang out in a room where Petri dishes

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<v Speaker 1>and suspended air filters inside the room, collected the floating microbes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they analyze these personal clouds. And what they

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<v Speaker 1>found was that every cloud is really like a fingerprint.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, I do think there's something poetic about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, like, when you hang out in someone else's cloud,

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<v Speaker 1>you take back a bacterial souvenir. Like there's almost this

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<v Speaker 1>record of your life and how you spent your time

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<v Speaker 1>that you're constantly carrying around with you, and the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you're changed a little by everyone you meet or

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<v Speaker 1>interact with. It's just kind of human and wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, listeners, we've got to pause for a quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll be back with more Part Time Genius very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Part Time Genius, where we're continuing with

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<v Speaker 1>our crazy countdown.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, semengo, what would you say if I told

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<v Speaker 2>you I could fix the cracks in your phone screen?

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<v Speaker 2>Just by covering it with a damp paper towel.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'd probably think you were lying or it

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<v Speaker 1>was a prank.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, it's actually an innovation that is just around

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<v Speaker 2>the corner. Once this new quote self healing glass hits

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<v Speaker 2>the market, we really will be able to repair cracks

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<v Speaker 2>by just adding water.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. So how exactly does this work? Because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if I'm wrong, but like glass needs heat

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<v Speaker 1>to repair, not moisture, right, Well, that's definitely true of

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<v Speaker 1>traditional glass.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm talking about is something called peptide glass.

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<v Speaker 2>And in case your chemistry is a little rusty, here

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I knew it would be. A peptide in short,

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<v Speaker 2>is a chain of amino acids, which are chemical building

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<v Speaker 2>blocks of proteins. So peptides can self assemble into all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of useful structures, including endorphins and insulin. But because

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<v Speaker 2>they're crystalline in nature, they aren't typically associated with glass.

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<v Speaker 1>Because glass isn't crystalline.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And in crystalline structures, the atoms are arranged in

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<v Speaker 2>a rigid repeating pattern, so when the crystal is subjected

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<v Speaker 2>to stress, it tends to fracture really easily. Glass, on

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<v Speaker 2>the other hand, is what's known as an amorphous solid.

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<v Speaker 2>That means that atoms are arranged at random, which allows

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<v Speaker 2>it to absorb stress more evenly, making it harder to

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<v Speaker 2>actually break.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how they are like different types of solids,

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<v Speaker 1>different types of liquids. Ketchup is a certain type of

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<v Speaker 1>liquid that doesn't move or flow right right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have this type of glass. But how is there

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<v Speaker 1>something called peptide glass. It seems like a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a contradiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it is exactly that, and that's why researchers at

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<v Speaker 2>Tel Aviv were so surprised last year. They found when

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<v Speaker 2>a certain peptide is mixed with water, it can self

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<v Speaker 2>assemble into this rigid, transparent, glass like material. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't something that they set out to find either, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's always the fun in science of these accidental discoveries.

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<v Speaker 2>But in fact, they were actually studying entirely different properties

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<v Speaker 2>of peptides when they made this discovery. But that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even the best part, because it turned out this new

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<v Speaker 2>kind of glass also had the ability to heal itself

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<v Speaker 2>when it was remoistened.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So, according to one of the studies, authors quote. We

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<v Speaker 2>found that although the peptide glass cracks under dry conditions,

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<v Speaker 2>it can easily repair these cracks. All that needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be done is transfer the glass to a more humid environment.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as you do that, water molecules re enter

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<v Speaker 2>the material, repair the cracks, and allow the glass to reform.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so amazing. And I know you said this

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<v Speaker 1>was just discovered, but what are the commercial prospects or

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<v Speaker 1>something like this? Does it seem like a viable product?

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely does so far. So conventional glass requires a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of energy to produce because you have to gather

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<v Speaker 2>all the different raw materials and you melt them together

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<v Speaker 2>at extremely high temperatures. But with this, you actually just

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<v Speaker 2>take some peptide powder, mix it with water, and voila.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's instant glass. It's pretty amazing. It's as strong

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<v Speaker 2>as silicate glass too, so it could be used to

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<v Speaker 2>make just about anything windows, doors, optical lenses, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course the thing we're all thinking about phone screens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it really does sound like it could revolutionize like a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of different industries and also save you so much

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<v Speaker 2>money on repairs. Imagine like getting a crack in your

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<v Speaker 2>windshield and just like waiting for the rain to repair it. Yea,

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<v Speaker 2>it's amazing. Yeah, and you wouldn't necessarily have to replace

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<v Speaker 2>your existing glass either. You could just add a thin

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<v Speaker 2>coating of peptide glass over the top to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>act as a barrier.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who's going to really benefit from this as

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<v Speaker 1>anyone with a glass bottom boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, those are the people that we really want to

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<v Speaker 2>look out for. You know. It's like how people say

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<v Speaker 2>we should make an entire plane out of the same

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<v Speaker 2>material as the black box, Like, just make the whole

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<v Speaker 2>boat out of peptide glass and it can never spring

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<v Speaker 2>a leak.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just came up with the best sign

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<v Speaker 1>of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Nailed it all right, Well that does it for today.

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<v Speaker 2>Be sure to tune in tomorrow as the countdown continues.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to give too much away, but tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 2>episode involves NASCAR dinosaurs. Sounds like, really this is a

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<v Speaker 2>tough guy episode and a very special musical number. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, And of course don't forget the head over

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<v Speaker 2>to our Instagram at part time Genius to enter our

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<v Speaker 2>copy bar contest. We're from Gabe Dylan, Mary Mangush and me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for listening, oh.

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