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Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all.

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Speaker 4: My life, sacrifice hustle, Paed Price. Want a slice? Got

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Speaker 4: the brother Geysa all my life. I've been grinding all

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Speaker 3: Life, sacrifice, hustle, Paed Price.

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Speaker 4: One slice got the brother geist swap all my life.

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Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shape Shape. I

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Speaker 1: am your hole, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propride of

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Speaker 1: Club Shade Shake, stopping by for conversation on the drink today.

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Speaker 1: This has been a long time in the Make It

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Speaker 1: seven eight years in the Make It, and we're making

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Speaker 1: it happened today. He's one of R and b's most

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Speaker 1: distinctive and relatable voices, one of the last soul superstar

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Speaker 1: singers that's had an impact on modern culture. They say

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Speaker 1: he sounds like he was born in a part of

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Speaker 1: college Greens. The National treasure, a narrate of love. A

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Speaker 1: Grammy Award winning singer, a multi platinum selling songwriter, soul

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Speaker 1: for storyteller, intergenerational artist, renowned musician, phenomenal producer, a veteran entertainer,

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Speaker 1: an actor, an author, and a publisher. He sold over

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Speaker 1: fifty million albums worldwide. A Charlotte Bread hitmaker, and a

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Speaker 1: local music legend. He's in the North Carolina Music Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. A gift to our generation, a staple in

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Speaker 1: the R and B community. Here he is from North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: a country boy. Mister Anthony Hamilton brood to see this

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Speaker 1: show is gonna be a little different. What we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go in between Anthony performer song. He'll come

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Speaker 1: sit in the come sit on the chair, tell us

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Speaker 5: Charlene woke govern in the morning, found a ladder.

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Speaker 6: That she rode.

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Speaker 7: She said, She sighed that I'm always on the road too.

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Speaker 7: Hard to swatting up then and not alone. She needs

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Speaker 7: a corn at night and she could go. She must

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Speaker 7: have tore me a thousand time to more silent crist

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Speaker 7: how used to doing no God, Nos, I left her

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Speaker 7: didn't mean nothing.

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Speaker 4: No we didn't know you ben.

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Speaker 7: Enough your sire and the love you wants to be

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Speaker 7: with you for life.

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Speaker 6: All moner.

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Speaker 8: Me.

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Speaker 7: She knows I'm really love for some music games since

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Speaker 7: I haven't was a child. It's spend in my cream.

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Speaker 7: I can't support her, treat her transport you know her

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Speaker 7: to find nothing, but.

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Speaker 4: I forgot about here.

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Speaker 7: Damn the money diamonds and first what about the or

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Speaker 4: She need us from me to leave.

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Speaker 10: Mus be.

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Speaker 4: Shed and I promise I be.

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Speaker 6: To the toy.

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Speaker 3: And stud mean she.

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Speaker 10: She would promise.

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Speaker 4: I can't little town. Her knows I need enough to

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Speaker 11: Me knows horay she come home day hackle in my life.

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Speaker 6: No baby, biby know you send here self.

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Speaker 9: I'm pretty homely normally.

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Speaker 4: Believe you tell me. I'll tell you fly.

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Speaker 12: Me shu.

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Speaker 6: Mhm.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes say I cry, charl need to listen. Could you

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Speaker 8: Call me?

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Speaker 12: Come on, come on, come on, we gotta talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Oh man, no star shat, no start.

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Speaker 12: We gotta talk about different, bro, Thank you better?

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, man, Yes, sir, absolutely, mm hmm.

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Speaker 12: So is this a real Is this a real story

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Speaker 12: that someone actually say Anthony? You working to bro? You

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Speaker 12: know what?

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Speaker 2: It is a real story. Her name is not Charlne.

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Speaker 12: Okay. So you protected you wanted to protect the image.

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Speaker 2: You know, the little money I was getting in. I

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Speaker 2: to be successful in your business and home suffer. So

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Speaker 2: a series of events happened. We broke up and you know, heartbreak.

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Speaker 2: Heartbreak created a song, a staple song for me.

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Speaker 12: But when you.

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Speaker 1: The old saying you'll lose a lot of money chasing women, Yeah,

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Speaker 12: That's not true. You're telling you that's like.

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Speaker 1: How do you find a balance, Because when you're trying

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Speaker 12: Work life balance is nine to five.

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Speaker 1: But when you trying to get it like you were

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think a lot of times, you know, people

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Speaker 2: think their life is going to be structured. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 2: like you said in ninety five, but music business is

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Speaker 2: You got to hit record, and you're gone three four

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can be close to the house, but never

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Speaker 1: But I'm working and you could theoretically be at home,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm at home land with you and I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: you know you have to compromise, yes, in these kind

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Speaker 1: Everyone said me being the next professional athlete, and I've

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Speaker 12: That training meetings and working out and the way you

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Speaker 1: But you said you can handle it what I thought

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna support you.

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Speaker 2: I't.

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Speaker 12: I'm pushing you, not you walking, I'm pushing you. But

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Speaker 1: Happens, Yeah, and you have to be gone or you

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Speaker 1: I gotta go, Right then, I gotta go, you know,

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Speaker 1: do what I need to do. How difficult is that

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Speaker 1: to get them to understand I'm not a nine to

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Speaker 2: I think it's two ways to it. A lot of times,

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Speaker 2: secure it because you know this person is special, right,

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Speaker 2: But then when the real life sets in, it's just like, wow,

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Speaker 2: So now you know, I may seem like I'm unbalanced

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Speaker 2: And so you just have to let him know, like, hey,

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Speaker 12: You have to go.

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Speaker 2: And and that's another way, you know, you suffer when

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Speaker 1: Do the kids understand because I was very neglectful in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard. That's a hard one because you know,

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Speaker 2: I think my first three. I have six sons, So

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Speaker 2: they got more of the sacrifice time. Yes, I was there,

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Speaker 2: but you know I missed a lot of the school days.

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Speaker 1: You missed the football practices and yeah, all that the

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Speaker 2: So I go harder now for my last three. Okay,

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Speaker 12: I appreciate that we're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about this because Anthony and I were we would

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Speaker 1: I was talking to about producer c J. I said, man,

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Speaker 1: a sit down, but to have n't performed.

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Speaker 12: C J was like, yeah, that'd be a good.

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Speaker 1: Idea, and we just kept going, kept going, and it

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Speaker 12: And Charlotte and I cried and her her all that,

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Speaker 12: I mean, we we grew up, we grew up, we

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Speaker 1: But now you old school too, cause it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Ogs used to be Luther and yeah, Teddy p Dottie.

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Speaker 2: Half Away and Barry White.

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Speaker 4: Now you that's you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't that, it's on. But I think I'm

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Speaker 2: I think I'm on age out of on now, you

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Speaker 2: know the aged out on. Now I think I'm old?

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Speaker 12: What am I?

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Speaker 6: Old?

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Speaker 2: Grigg? I still out running a lot of them though,

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Speaker 2: I still out running, still out running? So how long?

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Speaker 1: How what's what's the expectation having been mad and having

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Speaker 1: You might be in Raleigh, and then you and Charlotte,

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Speaker 2: I think it had happened. I think, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, the thing is is that sometimes

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Speaker 12: You're trying to.

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Speaker 1: Lay a foundation. The stronger the foundation, it can't be broken,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and that's women have taught. You know,

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Speaker 12: Correct.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm a provider. I'm there. I'm making

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Speaker 1: How hard weather for you to trace your dreams? Did

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Speaker 1: you ever feel like, man, this this issue ain't gonna happen. Man, damn,

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Speaker 1: it seems like every time.

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Speaker 1: I'm so close. I know this is my calling absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But how long? How long were you willing to stay

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Speaker 2: Had you not?

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Speaker 12: Because I think it was with the Nappy Roots? Is

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this got special. You know I had been signed,

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Speaker 2: A they fell out. So here I am left dangling

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Speaker 2: wrote CO wrote say what for Donielle Jones? So give

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Speaker 12: Keep you going?

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Speaker 6: To let me going?

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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, it's like, nah, I got something better for you,

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Speaker 1: Of course, was it hard to continue to chase your

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, being a barber, you know I can

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Speaker 2: make a couple of dollars and get a couple of

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Speaker 2: You know, Miss Ryan, I appreciate you up there in Harlem,

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Speaker 2: but you know, and she believed in me. But still

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Speaker 1: Well, because it's a situation like if if I had

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Speaker 1: to hear that. Well, hey, you know, I this money.

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Speaker 1: You know, people like, well, you know, money is tight.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know, you come and get a haircut, so when

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Speaker 2: I ain't got I got about to. You know, the

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Speaker 2: haircut is ten dollars. You got four fifty in a

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Speaker 2: nickel bag. That ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna work. Man,

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, come get rid of that. It bring

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Speaker 2: me my money, So that'll be nice. I'll be show fitting, yeah,

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Speaker 2: show yeah, yeah yeah, all we work it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you're gonna perform. The next song that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna perform is coming where I'm from. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a listen to that, and then you come back

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Speaker 12: About let's do it. Man, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: You all ready, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Well, Well, listen, shitty here, I guess I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't make me got time in the store in that

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Speaker 7: Come and daddy was started rustling in there, couldn't tell

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Speaker 7: me nothing, running, you know, trying.

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Speaker 4: To be somebody.

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Speaker 10: My sword is on the staff.

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Speaker 4: I was searching for something.

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Speaker 6: I try to be good.

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Speaker 7: I try to keep from trouble, living me too fast

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Speaker 4: Telling me to get round from the time got on

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Speaker 9: From I'll carry out to walk doory.

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Speaker 4: Time I gotta do little toy bak want to turn

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Speaker 7: Else thet't wanna tell you, honey, one final pie.

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Speaker 4: My family to have kids, don't like my daddy in

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Speaker 4: a field as some name.

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Speaker 2: Get home?

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Speaker 8: Coming from from.

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Speaker 4: From some time? I got a mong Yeah from.

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Speaker 9: From so time you kind of crawling me louder from from.

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Speaker 4: Sometime they have to pack the paint, Yeah from.

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Speaker 8: Sometime, have wal.

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Speaker 6: From some time to go to wherever?

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Speaker 4: Yeah from see from from sometimes I'm railing.

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Speaker 8: On it to.

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Speaker 13: From little blues, little blues.

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Speaker 12: On the face, come on to come on back. Let's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one right here. Yeah, we might have to

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Speaker 2: go in on. Yeah man oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Seem like you wrote this from a place of personal knowledge. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and some of the best songs come you look at

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Speaker 1: Gloria Gainer, she went through something to say, I will survive.

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Speaker 1: Lenny Williams, he would really hurt people. Don't remember when

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Speaker 1: the TV used to go off at midnight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't stand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talking about sometimes you gotta do things. You

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Speaker 1: where you come from, did well, there's some circumstances that

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Speaker 2: Here, absolutely absolutely, you know. And you know my dad,

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Speaker 2: and I felt I felt betrayed. Now, you know, he

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Speaker 2: So that unstable situation in my life, it, you know,

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Speaker 2: it made me work harder. It put a little pain

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Speaker 2: in their little grit. Yeah, so you know, I probably

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Speaker 2: A lord had that that I happened, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 12: Was that was That was pain.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned your father wasn't around, So how how old

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Speaker 2: He was around? I do remember, you know, a couple

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Speaker 2: I wanted a few dollars.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: He just told me he didn't have time for you

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Speaker 2: know whatever. And at that moment I took it upon

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Speaker 2: wasn't until I was about to get married. My Max

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Speaker 2: I called him. She said, you're gonna call your dad

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Speaker 2: not really, but you know I did. Working at this

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Speaker 2: he was working at a golf course, and I went over,

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Speaker 2: I asked him, you know, hey, about to get married,

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Speaker 2: and you know she wanted to know if you would

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Speaker 2: be around. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I have something to do.

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Speaker 10: Damn.

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Speaker 2: This is what he said. And uh so even that,

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right it, we'll go right. Well,

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Speaker 2: He was driving off and for whatever reason, I said,

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Speaker 2: I love you. I said that, yes, it hadn't seen

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Speaker 2: him in a little while, right, And he rode for

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Speaker 2: a little minute and I love you too. And from

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Speaker 2: that he came to the wedding. Wow, and we've been cool.

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Speaker 2: We were cool ever since. He just passed away last year.

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Speaker 2: He was eighty one. He that so I was there, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: but he lived you know, life, and I was there,

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Speaker 2: you know yeah. I didn't never question them about why whatnot?

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Speaker 12: Why wasn't he there?

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Speaker 2: No, I think I think that's you know, I didn't

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Speaker 2: need it. It wasn't gonna make me better. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: You can't get up a lost time. We could just

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Speaker 1: move forward from this point and move forward. I can't

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Speaker 1: go back and get back what was lost.

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Speaker 4: No, you can't.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't want to waste the time trying to

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Speaker 1: Is that what you really wanted to hear from your dad?

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Speaker 1: You wanted your dad to tell you he loved you.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to know that he loved you.

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Speaker 2: I think so. I think because at that moment I

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Speaker 2: And I didn't expect to say it right, No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 12: You know?

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad I did.

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Speaker 1: And it was Had you not been getting married, had

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Speaker 1: your soon to be wife not pushed you to go

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Speaker 1: ask your dad, would he be attending the wedding, would

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Speaker 1: you have made would you have contacted made the connection?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it would have been the same. If

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Speaker 2: I had, probably would have been probably at a funeral

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Speaker 2: or something, but probably not not in the same manner,

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Speaker 2: right and maybe not right.

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Speaker 1: You said your mom you ended up getting adopted at fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so was your mom.

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Speaker 12: So what happened in that situation that led you to

445
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 12: be adopted by another family?

446
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: Just my mom taking the wrong man, I thinking that,

447
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: you know, took her off of her square, so she

448
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: wasn't her best self for a little while. And so

449
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: I needed to be somewhere stable because I know I

450
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: had to be this Anthony Hamilton that people here now,

451
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: and so I just prayed hard and God delivered the

452
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: family I need to be in.

453
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: Did you always have this voice? Did you always know

454
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: you wanted to be a singer? You always wanted to

455
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: be an artist?

456
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 12: Is that what you knew? You always?

457
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't football, it wasn't basketball, it wasn't anything else.

458
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: God gifted me this voice.

459
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: You know what, When I was a little five four

460
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: or five years old, I always said I'm gonna be

461
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: famous singing, but I didn't know what fame was. I

462
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 2: just knew I wanted to do music, whether it be

463
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: on I thought being on a train. I was. I

464
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: always thought about getting on the train because I was

465
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: fascinated by Amtrak. I'm gonna go on a train. I'm

466
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: just gonna go to different places. I'm gonna sing and uh.

467
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: I just never stopped believing in that, and I just

468
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: stayed with it and put it into work. Actually, my

469
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: dad was almost signed to Motown, really, so I get

470
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: my voice from my dad and my and my mom's

471
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: side of the family, my uncle's. I went to a

472
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: funeral man and you talking about singing. So Casey and

473
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Jojo are my my family as well. Okay, so you're

474
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: talking about some singing.

475
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 12: Did y'all eat anything at the family? You just singing?

476
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: Listen, look out look. I think I was so fascinated

477
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: by the voice. Is I got? I was hungry, so

478
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: when I hit the rod, my stomach was growling.

479
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: Like Johnson Family vacation, How together, Steve Harvey gets what?

480
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: I think that was what that said said undertaining that Yeah,

481
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: you have siblings, Yes I do. My mom had three

482
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: of us.

483
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm the middle, my brother the younger, my sister's the older,

484
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: and then I have three brothers on my on my

485
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: other family.

486
00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 12: Wow.

487
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: Actually just met two other another set of siblings my

488
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: dad at this funeral. There was a young lady and

489
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: a and a and a man that came over and said, hey,

490
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: I'm your brother. And they had a birth certificate with

491
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: my dad's name on it. But I didn't know. I

492
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: would have put him on the I would have put

493
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: him on.

494
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 12: The bro sure exactly. He never mentioned that to you.

495
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: I kind of remember the son's name vaguely, but not

496
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: not really. So now you know, they'll call and I'm

497
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: going a lot, and so it's kind of weird for

498
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: me to kind of just embrace it all the way.

499
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to say, fifties, I'm your brother.

500
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: You just try to pick pick up.

501
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 8: Yeah.

502
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. But there's one daughter that I keep in contact with,

503
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: pretty pretty strong, but they're nice. I'm trying. I'm trying.

504
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 12: That's it.

505
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: That's it's just weird. It's just weird.

506
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 12: Your mom. Is your mom still alive?

507
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 5: No?

508
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: She yeah, cancer some years back.

509
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 12: Did you make amends with your mom?

510
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: Did you have a conversation as your mom and said,

511
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: I did what I did because I felt I wasn't

512
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: gonna meet make my ultimate destination because of some things

513
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: that you had around.

514
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 12: It wasn't you, It was what you were around that

515
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 12: caused me to do what I did.

516
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely. You know, when she was transitioning, I was there.

517
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: I had got her about a house and put in

518
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: a house, her first house with windows in the kitchen.

519
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: And you know, she was proud of me, and I

520
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: was proud of her too. She came a long way,

521
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: We all came a long way. She actually got on

522
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: the plane to come see me in New York. Had

523
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: never flown before. Wow, she had come to see her baby.

524
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 12: She got on a plane by herself, never flown before.

525
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Never and came to see me. I was living in

526
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: Harlem at the time, but she came. Yeah, and we

527
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: stayed in the in the city, in the hotel, and

528
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: we actually went and had a beer together.

529
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 12: Wow.

530
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, I let let step go. Man.

531
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 12: Life.

532
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: Was it hard to let it go?

533
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: Yes, because sometimes you know, people hold on the things,

534
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: and you know, my grandma used to say, boy, teeth

535
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: and tongue should fall out, but family never should fall out.

536
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

537
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 12: You're gonna go through things, yeah, yeah, but.

538
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: You one day you're gonna wake up and your parents

539
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: aren't gonna be there, or a brother or sister not

540
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna be there, and you're gonna say all the things

541
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: you wish you had to say that You're never gonna

542
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: get an opportunity too safe.

543
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I think, I've seen so many

544
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: people missed that opportunity. I just didn't want to do that.

545
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: You know, you sometimes you got to learn from somebody

546
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: else's mistake, and so I was just like, I can't

547
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: change it.

548
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 8: You know.

549
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they went through their own hell, yes,

550
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: and their own you know, beating them the selves. Yeah, yeah,

551
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: so who am I If I ain't God, don't act

552
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: like it and let's just start where we are.

553
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: When you when you get on social media and you

554
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: see them got to have tiktoks and they have videos

555
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: about man Anthony hammelt to make a song with dudes

556
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: gotta walk to work.

557
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah it's funny, man. It's encouraging too, because you know,

558
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: people are not gonna talk about something that it don't

559
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: if it don't affect them, correct, So they do the

560
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: beer jokes and oh that I love it all. I reposted,

561
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you know it's it's good to be special.

562
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Flage tweeted, man old school R and B really hits different.

563
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm listening to Charlene by Anthony Hammel to sin more

564
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: like this. Charlne was released in two thousand and three.

565
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: Flage was born in two thousand and three. Kevin onstage said,

566
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: you make video for the heartbroken and we talked touched

567
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: on this a little earlier. You're old school now, you're

568
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: when when you know, like I said, it used to

569
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: be very white. It was Teddy pen the grass and

570
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: it was all the smoky Robinson when when we were kids,

571
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: that was old school. Now you're thought of in that

572
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: same breath, the old school R and B, because you

573
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: know you're hear it all the time.

574
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 12: Also, R and B dead.

575
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: I ain't never been to no funeral. Didn't tell you

576
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: nothing about you, No man, I ain't no. I didn't

577
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: get that. I ain't get the I ain't get the

578
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: wake time or the funeral time. I think the rendition

579
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: or the style of R and B that people are

580
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: used to, it's in there. It's mixed in the young

581
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: kids just have their own way of expressing themselves, and

582
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: that's some good stuff out there. Yeah, you know, I

583
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: just think, uh, times change and stuff moves. But the

584
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: core of R and B and the kor soul music,

585
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: it's in every rap song you ever heard, every country song,

586
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: every church record, it's there. I don't think it'll ever

587
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: go anywhere. There's nothing better.

588
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 12: I think the R and B that we're used to

589
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 12: because it used to be a lot of people did

590
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 12: R and B. Yeah, how about this? Will R and

591
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 12: B ever be what it was was?

592
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: I think they're coming back. I think you have some

593
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: of the new cats digging into it, and they're starting

594
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: to sample a lot of nineties record They are they are,

595
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: And I think I think that you're gonna have to

596
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: go back. Yeah, you can't keep dating so fast. They're

597
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: gonna get They're gonna get old. They want to slow

598
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: it down, want to slow When of the last time

599
00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: I slowed drag.

600
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: Bad please only at a wedding. I mean with the

601
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: eighth grade baby, see you know.

602
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to slow down. Maybe we're vote different

603
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: than we slow down. God told Mighty.

604
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 12: Please, we're moving too fast.

605
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: At boy, they moving too fast running past the bull.

606
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: You known were running past the bull.

607
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you sit back and look

608
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: at you, you look back like where you started and

609
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: where you are. Now, what are some of the differences

610
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: that you see? Because, like I said, some of the

611
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: old school guys and now you're that old school guy.

612
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: How have you tried to bridge the gap?

613
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 2: You know what I've I've done so many rap records

614
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: I've worked with I have songs with Wow Drake, just

615
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: did another one with bus Around the second one with

616
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: him Jadakiss, Young Jeezy and Alie Chopper. So that keeps

617
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: me bridging the gap. I sound like a sample. So

618
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: they want to be a part of that soul world

619
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: and they know where to come and get it, you know,

620
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: just like the tones, certain voices you can't you can't duplicate.

621
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 12: But they know. Yeah, I mean so some people like

622
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 12: no matter what, man, that's such and such.

623
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's an advantage I have just

624
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: to sound so much like myself that if you want

625
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: that sound, you got to come to me.

626
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 12: You got to come to you.

627
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: And so I always have a job.

628
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a situation if somebody's sampled

629
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: and I asked, llll, I've asked a lot of people

630
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: that had things sampled.

631
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 12: Do you have to hear it before it comes out?

632
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 12: Or you just take their word for it and they go,

633
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 12: do you right?

634
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: Look, I was just listening to some the other night.

635
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: I had never heard really Yeah, so Prince Montana, him

636
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: and the Cokeboys, they did a since I sent Young

637
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: Mind with Jeremiah and Jeremy. I just heard that and yeah,

638
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: every now and again you hear it slipped through. But

639
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: they have to go through the label, right if they're

640
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: going to try to sell it. If they're just putting

641
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: that out on the mixtape, that's cool. I don't even

642
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: really sweat it, you know what I mean? No, I

643
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: mean because they is sharing with somebody like that. I

644
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: want my money.

645
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: You know.

646
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: You know certain artists, you know, they may not move

647
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: the needle enough for it to really matter.

648
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 12: But if it's somebody gonna make some bread, I need

649
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 12: to get a little somebody. Let me get that.

650
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: Let me get that justin Bieber, let me get that.

651
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: Get that jay Z, let me get it. But nah,

652
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: you can't. You gotta pick and choose what's gone.

653
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: You know when you and I was talking and you said,

654
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: if I come on club Shadeha, what's the one song,

655
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: the one song you're gonna want me to perform?

656
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, if I if I can only perform one, yeah,

657
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 12: I said her heart.

658
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: Man, I knew.

659
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 12: That's what you you tell you tweet you taxt me back.

660
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 12: I knew it.

661
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 2: Look that song, man, it's super huge in South Africa

662
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: and even here in the States. It's just a song

663
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: that was written from a real place.

664
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 8: You know.

665
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: I was cutting up. You know, I was out there.

666
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: I was you out there, bad boy. I was here.

667
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: I was out there mad and you know, cutting up,

668
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: trying to find my way.

669
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 12: Man.

670
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: And you know, not a bad person, just didn't always

671
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: bad decisions, just made some decisions. That was a little

672
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: little bow legging.

673
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: All right here he is, he's gonna perform her heart

674
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: Anthony always, oh yeah, I might crown this with that.

675
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: I'm me too.

676
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 4: I had having a messing yuh stand out of lady

677
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: and getting it traum.

678
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 7: I'll let you down a thousand times broken promises. It's

679
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 7: like carrying away from you. My career was my excuse

680
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 7: until I saw you about too, drowning your own TV.

681
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 6: And that's you all my arms. You wore got my horse.

682
00:35:48,880 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 14: And saw walkin what I found in you, because ah,

683
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 14: her heart.

684
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 6: Won't let me lose her no matter how I try.

685
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: I just can't say goodbye and lose her.

686
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 7: When all the folks were said and done, you would

687
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 7: dance some welcome me home. I was coming big it

688
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 7: cause you're love now gonna wave.

689
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 4: And now I know you love me, mom.

690
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 8: That me.

691
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: And you fu to love to win it thme. I'm

692
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 4: never kind of kind of love, but forever.

693
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 5: And that you go.

694
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 8: My arm.

695
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 6: You wont got my heart and I saw up.

696
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: Again what I found in you, because her.

697
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 6: Love all let me lose her. Her love more let

698
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: me lose nor and lose her. No world war let

699
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 6: me lose.

700
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: Her set a hard up, let me lose.

701
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 6: No matter.

702
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 10: You know, I can't say good mane No, don't matter

703
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 10: how I got.

704
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: I just can't say goodbye and lose.

705
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 10: Don't matter how I tried, I just.

706
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: Can't say goodbye and lose.

707
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 12: Well.

708
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: I felt that one. Hey man, I felt that one.

709
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: I had the feeling for years.

710
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: Many said you had a habit of messing up. I

711
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: let you down a thousand times broken promises in a

712
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: situation like that. My grandfather used to say, promises like

713
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: pie crust.

714
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 12: That thing that easily broke.

715
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: Good God, I'm mighty.

716
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: When you make promises like that, maybe I'm gonna do this,

717
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: but then something comes up. There's only so many times

718
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: she's gonna accept something came up. Absolutely, you mentioned that

719
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: you know you was acting up. You was all bowt

720
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: legged out there, Yeah, bow legged at one leg, not

721
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: both with this one.

722
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 12: Yeah, you're a bad boy.

723
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: Did Yeah. I was gragging that one so too off?

724
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 12: So how do you how do you how do you

725
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 12: go to how do you go to her Anthony and

726
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 12: try to fix it?

727
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 2: After a while, I just didn't try.

728
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 12: You didn't Oh you know what I mean?

729
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: I felt like you know my words were in vain.

730
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: You know, I let you down too many times, and

731
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: you know it's it's probably best for me to let

732
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: you be and let you get what you deserve.

733
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 8: And was it hard?

734
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

735
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, after you've been did you try to go back?

736
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Does this person know that this song is about her?

737
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they do, you know, the first time,

738
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: the first time in earlier in the career, in the relationship.

739
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: You know, you try and you yeah, I'm gonna do better,

740
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 2: and you do good for a long, long, long time,

741
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: and you go to church and you get double baptized.

742
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 12: You really really trying.

743
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: I really tried, you try, and I think, you know,

744
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: you have to Maturity in different areas of your life

745
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: come at different times when you're not sure of who

746
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: you are. You don't know how to you don't know

747
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: how to be the best version of yourself at that point.

748
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: So I was learning, even though I was a grown man,

749
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: I was learning. You know, it was a different life.

750
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: A lot throwed at you, you know, when you when

751
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: you're in this arena, you know, so how hard was

752
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: it to.

753
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 12: Watch your cry and to know that you're the reason

754
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 12: for those tears?

755
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: Pretty hard. You know, you cry, you know, you you

756
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: tie yourself to the bed and you watch the passion

757
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: of the Christ over and over again. You just try

758
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: your I gotta suffer too, Yeah, okay, you know I

759
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: just put it on repeat, you know. So, Yeah, it's

760
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: it's it's not a good feeling, you know, especially when

761
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: you your intentions are not hurt anybody.

762
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: Right, But how does the I'm just trying to how

763
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: you you put that together in a song. We were

764
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: talking about it earlier. Some of the best songs come

765
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: from a place of hurt.

766
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 12: Yeah.

767
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: And and although you weren't on the receiving end, you

768
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: was hurting also because the person that you cared about

769
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: you were hurting her with your actions. And damn, babe,

770
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: I'm hurting you. But I can't stop doing what I'm doing.

771
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: That's the that's the that's hard, man.

772
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: You pour another one and you just you try to

773
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: numb it. Yes, you know, and and you know that

774
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: can be a problem too.

775
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: Yes, I was talking and I heard someone said a

776
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: lesson not learned in blood, it's destined to be repeated. Yeah,

777
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: so you gotta really really hurt. You said something very

778
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: interested that you know, A wise man learned from other's mistakes.

779
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: A fool has to learn from its own. Yeah, you

780
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: want to like see something, and you probably saw it.

781
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 1: In this industry, people had wives and had great relationships

782
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: and mess it all up.

783
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 12: And you probably said, it ain't gonna be me, it

784
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 12: ain't gonna be me.

785
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Hey, I know what, I got it home, and I'd

786
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: be damn boy if I didn't do the same thing

787
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: that I said, I wouldn't let.

788
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: Happen, you know. And that's you know, that's why you

789
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: have to humble yourself. A lot of times you do it.

790
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: You get to a place where you feel like you're

791
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: above you know those circumstances, Yes, and you move carelessly.

792
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: And sometime we you know, god to try to get

793
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: our attention in private, but sometime you have to expose

794
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: it so we can really pay attention. And you know,

795
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: I've been there, he.

796
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: Said, I was trying to get your attention. Now I

797
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: got your undivided sension. I had to sit you down.

798
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: I said, can you turn that down?

799
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: And it's this thing on, come, somebody lights off. You said,

800
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: men use career as an excuse. Yeah, isn't that a

801
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: pretty good excuse?

802
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: It is when it when it's when it's you know, genuine,

803
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: but when you know you at the studio, but you're

804
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: not at the studio, that ain't that.

805
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 12: That's not a good that's not a good excuse.

806
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: You look at you, look at you at the light,

807
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 2: and they're at the light too. It's just not oh man,

808
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: affordable studio.

809
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: Huh.

810
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's just I just made that.

811
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 12: He wasn't that. He wasn't that reckless.

812
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, it went too bad. I

813
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 2: was pretty good.

814
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 12: Men cry.

815
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you know, men say, man, I can't cry.

816
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: That's a sign of weakness. Uh, that's that's that's that's

817
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: the up team's vulnerability. And a lot of times men

818
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: have a hard time being vulnerable in front of someone

819
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: they care about because they don't want the woman to

820
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: use that against them.

821
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know what I've done it. I think during

822
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: the Charlene days, I felt like they were taking advantage

823
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: of my tears. They saw it as a sign of weakness.

824
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: And the minute I was able to get my strength

825
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: enough to get up and get out and get back

826
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: on my feet, I had to realize, like, wow, maybe

827
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: that wasn't a person. I thought they were right in

828
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: those situations.

829
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 8: You know.

830
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: But now now I cry, I'll cry on stage. I cry. Whatever.

831
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, if it hits me, it hits me.

832
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Is it a situation? If I tell you it doesn't

833
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: matter man the woman woman to man. If I tell

834
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: you something in confidence, if I tell you something that

835
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: that made me vulnerable. M should the other person ever

836
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: bring that up and use that.

837
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 12: Against them.

838
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: If you have bad intentions? Yeah, but if you really

839
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: care about that person, I think that's certain things to

840
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: stay within the ring that you guys right created because

841
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: you know that.

842
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so I know how he feels, I know how

843
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: she feels about that, and I know if I bring

844
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: that up, I know what it's gonna I know the

845
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: kind of response is gonna.

846
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 8: Listen.

847
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's control in a way. You want to

848
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: be able to have control of their triggers so you

849
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: can manipulate their emotion and next thing, you know, whatever

850
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: you're gonna get out of it, you get it for

851
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: as long as you can until they catch on. Cat on.

852
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: You know what, it's funny that you say that. My

853
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: grandpa used to have a say and say, boy, you

854
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: gotta be careful to let people know what make you tick.

855
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, wind you up and make you tick when

856
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: they wanted to.

857
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like hold on, I ain't want to do that.

858
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: It's like, you know what would that do?

859
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 12: The right thing?

860
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: When Marble come down? Hit that damn hit that dance

861
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: and get we hit that dance for? But is it

862
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: is crying a man crying? Is that a sign of

863
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: weakness or a sign of strength?

864
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: I think it's a sign of freedom.

865
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 12: M hmmm.

866
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: I think I think if you free, you can express yourself.

867
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 8: Yeah.

868
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And whether you're weak for a moment, that's fine.

869
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 12: Yes, you know.

870
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: I think we have this thing of men you can't

871
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: be weak and you can't have a day off of

872
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: being strong. And I think that's that's why, you know,

873
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: so many people blow their brains out or get on

874
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: drugs or you know, don't make it back right, because

875
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: just one or two days off from being you know,

876
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: from not being superman?

877
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 6: Is it's okay?

878
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 12: Right? Is that a thing that men feel that they

879
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 12: have to be superman?

880
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: But because they have to wear that armor, they don't

881
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: want someone to see them in a vulnerable state because,

882
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, sometimes people see in a vulnerable state

883
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: and they feel they can take advantage.

884
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: Of absolutely, and you know it's it's looked at his

885
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: weakness or or lack of, lack of whatever it is

886
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: that makes you a man. And I don't think that's

887
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: that's the truth at all.

888
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: And the song I cried, Mama told me that men

889
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: that man's own tears can make him strong.

890
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. It makes you strong. You start to

891
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: feel alive, and you start seeing them where my strengths are,

892
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: where my weaknesses are. And then you get to know yourself.

893
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: So now you maneuver and you move a different way,

894
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: and you know, not to the beat of somebody else's drum,

895
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: not to the uh you know, somebody else's emotions like

896
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: you said, a chicken. Yes, yeah, So once you learn yourself,

897
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: you you move on your own.

898
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 8: Right.

899
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: So when you were in school, When you were in school, Anthony,

900
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: so what what type of what type of student? What

901
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: type of person were you when you were younger?

902
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: I could have absolute donkey and class And I'm getting

903
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: it back. What am I?

904
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 8: What? You know?

905
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: You know, I was a good I was good, I

906
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: was respectful, but I was I was a clown. Yeah,

907
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: I'm really silly. You hear these songs. People think he's

908
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: all you know, he's just.

909
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: He's too deep.

910
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now I'm a clown. I'm silly. You know.

911
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: I like the attention of making people laugh. You know,

912
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: I like to make people laugh.

913
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 12: So what so what what did you say, Anthony? Get

914
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 12: out of class?

915
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, get out, go to the office, right, you know,

916
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: back then you get you get paddled.

917
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, for sure.

918
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably why some of the kids got bad,

919
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: because they ain't ain't no paddling and parents ain't ain't

920
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: ain't no.

921
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 12: Oh were talking. Now we put you in time out.

922
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 12: Time up, you've been back time.

923
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: I like that. So I was. I was down in

924
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: a place called Maxton, North Carolina bike biker rally, thinking,

925
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: so my boys. I took my boys with me, and

926
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: you know, it's older guys, some of them probably have

927
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: been in the army, and they got the tussling and

928
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: all that. So there really wasn't no kids out there.

929
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: They got the tussling and that energy. Older man was like, hey, hey, now, hey,

930
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 2: y'all cut that out, all that all that that energy,

931
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: you know, and sometimes you you know, you you have

932
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: to really you have to really really allow the community

933
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: to be be a part of raising your kids and

934
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 2: raising you and like you said, learning from your mistakes.

935
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 2: That was the moment that they learned. I had told

936
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: them already you have to watch your energy because your

937
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: energy can affect somebody else. And at that moment, that

938
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: was a teachable moment for me to let them know, like,

939
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: this is what I was trying to tell you. And

940
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: so it took somebody outside of the household to be

941
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: that parental voice. And they didn't even know this man,

942
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: but I just wanted them to feel like a sense

943
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: of like when I grew up, how we were raised. Yeah,

944
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: it took the community. It didn't have to be your parent, no,

945
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: who would discipline you. It didn't have to be someone

946
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: that knew you per se. But it was just the

947
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: fact that we were able to teach outside of the house. Nowadays,

948
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: the kids they'll shoot you or kill you if you

949
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: say anything to them. So it's a different day in time.

950
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: But it's funny that you say that, Anthony, because we

951
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: were having a conversation Oho and I was having a

952
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: conversation on Nightcap how the community if you were doing

953
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: something wrong. You are marrying Barney grand boys, which one

954
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: of you you shattered a spanking? Hey, do they know

955
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: you down here?

956
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 12: Yeah? All right, stop all that cursive, stop all that talking.

957
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it. And it shocked my boys.

958
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 4: You know.

959
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: I was like, that's old school training. Yes, that's how

960
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: it should be. You know, the younger generation, they're missing that.

961
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 12: You got another song. Corn Bread, fish and collar greens.

962
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm hungry.

963
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 12: That's that's that seemed like a dish. That seems like

964
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 12: your favorite dish, you know.

965
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: What, And I think it is one of my favorite dish,

966
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: but I think it represents a different things. The corn bread,

967
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's the foundation.

968
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 12: Yes, solid, gotta get something to stick to your real boy, and.

969
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: The greens keeping keep things clean around there. And then

970
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: fish you learn how to move right. So yeah, you

971
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: want to talk about it.

972
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 12: Y'all want you to perform. And then we were gonn talk.

973
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 12: We're gonna dive in deeper.

974
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 2: Tottle sauce to hot sauce, hot sauce, all you alright?

975
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: You aight coslaw no.

976
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 12: No cold slaw.

977
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 8: A man.

978
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, you brought yourself back.

979
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 5: M m m.

980
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 6: Well well, well, well when.

981
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 7: I knew just what it had to be, when I

982
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 7: heard you say it, what you said to be the

983
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 7: wever duel in sight, look as like you're looking up

984
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 7: or not but tight for the night. Check it bit

985
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 7: the not have bet at the bag.

986
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 4: Keeping your wild. The way you act if a string

987
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 4: and tact.

988
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 7: You're getting out of line in them, making your back

989
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 7: in your place, all the swelling in and all the

990
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 7: school stand in your place. Don't be no fool A

991
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 7: long way right. You look like the light they would

992
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 7: try to bite best off being a friend to me.

993
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 6: You don't on the up in me?

994
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: Better play a course, don't know.

995
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 4: What I might do? Or redfish and card of grings.

996
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 7: I got what you need if you all because I'm

997
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 7: a pimp pas because I'm a pimper.

998
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: Green woo what I got what you need?

999
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 8: Pall?

1000
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 4: I can rock the world and every girl.

1001
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: Now you.

1002
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 7: Canna walk around like it shit, don't stand I'm oning you,

1003
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 7: Oh bigger gunn.

1004
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: I'm on your old. Take your stop, change the speed

1005
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: if it smooth of dog that you really.

1006
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 7: Need, butter state your claim, get it with it, stand

1007
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 7: in your lane, stop sward back.

1008
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 4: Hate to see and sit in the back.

1009
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 7: I don't appreciate the way you I can need to

1010
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 7: fix yourself here, up and go fix yourself? Can't you

1011
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 7: nothing want nothing to die? Everything is gonna bash your back.

1012
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 7: You don't wise en up, wisen up, prison, cristen your leve.

1013
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 7: I got it because I'm a pam stad p because I'm.

1014
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 6: A Perth Bay the time? Cre Whaco?

1015
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 4: What you if you call baby?

1016
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 10: Won't you all let me?

1017
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 15: Baby?

1018
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 4: Let me let me than you dare?

1019
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 8: Come?

1020
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 10: Get away this right now?

1021
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: You got me there?

1022
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 6: Wha show?

1023
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 7: I got adcus, I'm my pimps paid pond.

1024
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 4: Because I'm my pair blas the time?

1025
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 10: Who what you need?

1026
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 2: If you're pall?

1027
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 4: If you pull this go bad fishing time?

1028
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 8: Ah?

1029
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: You said this song is about approaching a woman. I

1030
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: think I said, like, I forget where I read it at,

1031
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: but this says like only twenty five percent.

1032
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 12: I think it's like from eight.

1033
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: Some of the local kids now have never asked a

1034
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: woman out on a person out on the date.

1035
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 12: Wow.

1036
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: And you see on social media they'll be standing right

1037
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: next to a person. Hey see me this person? Who

1038
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: is this person?

1039
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: Find right down?

1040
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 12: You were standing right next to the guy. Excuse me,

1041
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 12: what's your name? Excuse me? What's your what?

1042
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 8: What? What?

1043
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: What happened to being able to walk up to someone

1044
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: with a different time now, so you have to be

1045
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: careful walking up to someone and says, hey, my name

1046
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: is Shannon, how you doing?

1047
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 12: What's your name?

1048
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: I think social media kind of mess up the intimate

1049
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: part of getting to know people. Yes, you know, you

1050
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: don't want to do the work, you want the instant gratification.

1051
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: So I think just pushing a button is easier than

1052
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: me finding out, like what she really likes, and you know,

1053
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: just interacting with somebody well computers.

1054
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: I think the thing is anthony Also is that when

1055
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: you look at a person and you watch what they post,

1056
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: we feel after we see fifteen twenty posts, we kind

1057
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: of know what that person like. We kind of know

1058
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: what who that person is. Yeah, instead of doing the

1059
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: deep dive and doing the homework, we just taking a snapshot.

1060
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 12: Of what we see.

1061
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: Okay, they post they're eating there this the end that Okay,

1062
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: so that's what that person like to do. Have no

1063
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: idea that could be a lot of this. Look, social

1064
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: media is not real.

1065
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the stuff they posted, the mess stuff, yes, and

1066
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: and the stories. You know that story probably happened five

1067
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: years ago. You know, all you got to do is

1068
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 2: put it, put a filter on it.

1069
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody on social media got me feeling broke.

1070
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: They in the mall deeds, they out there in South Africa.

1071
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: They got all these cars, they eating at these nice

1072
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my pocket. I say, man, man, you

1073
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: got a hold in my pocket.

1074
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: Look I see all the time. If I see one

1075
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: more broke person outliving me, I'm gonna look, I got

1076
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: to change my life many Yeah, But.

1077
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: When when do Maybe it was always like this, but

1078
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: we didn't have a social media to be able to judge.

1079
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 12: But when do we become so obsessed with impressing the

1080
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 12: other person?

1081
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: You know what, I think it goes way back before

1082
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 2: we got here. You know, you know we want to

1083
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: be accepted. I think wanting to be accepted and feeling

1084
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 2: like you've been broken away from what's truly important important,

1085
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: And you know, when you told that you're not this,

1086
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: you're not that, you're not worthy, then you want to

1087
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: express yourself in a way for you to make people

1088
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: feel like you got it all right. And that's not

1089
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: the case. I think you spend more time trying to

1090
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: show off to people that not even looking if you,

1091
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: if you they ain't really looking at you, No, no,

1092
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: not really. If you knew how little people cared about you.

1093
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: They don't, you would care less than what they thought

1094
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: about you. Absolutely, but people go.

1095
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: Out of their way because people actually think people actually

1096
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: care about.

1097
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: What they do, what they say, they don't, and if

1098
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: they do, it's infantect that that quick. Now they're own

1099
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: to the next not giving the dog about that person being.

1100
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: From North Carolina. Obviously soul food, I mean North Carolina

1101
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: have rich.

1102
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 12: But you get a meal.

1103
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: If somebody says, Okay, Anthony, I'm we're gonna cook Sunday dinner.

1104
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you having to prepare? Shoo, man, Sunday dinner? Okay,

1105
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: definitely putet a salad okay with eggs in it. Okay,

1106
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: m pet heads or raisins on it. Man, Come on,

1107
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: fight on, come in and fight on. Fighter gonna get that.

1108
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: You know, I like turkey wing, baked turkey wing okay,

1109
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: and fry fish.

1110
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 12: Catfish, whitey, Moro, croker.

1111
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: Perch, whiteing.

1112
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 12: That's your country. Yeah yeah, I'm talking about cop the

1113
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 12: outhouse cut.

1114
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I want gravy under the rights and

1115
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: on top of the right.

1116
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: I thought I thought this mand was gonna say, this

1117
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: man said whitey. This man said croker. This man said perch.

1118
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you can get into the rich snapper

1119
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: little lass.

1120
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 12: But yeah, you don't want to see band no dover soul.

1121
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: I mean that's mine, that's you know.

1122
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 12: You get this for Sunday.

1123
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: Now that Sunday.

1124
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 12: Not you want to fry. You want to come right

1125
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 12: about the grease.

1126
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: Not when my socks and when I'm Dusty Socker is out.

1127
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: I want that. I want that real deal.

1128
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 12: So are you?

1129
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: Are you so?

1130
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 12: You're not?

1131
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: So you're a fish type of guy. You don't you

1132
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: don't need you don't eat meat, red meat.

1133
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: I haven't had red meat in some years. But I'm

1134
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: about to backslide and get some boxtails when I'm.

1135
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: Just I'm just but they doing too much with oxtails

1136
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: right now. They're putting oxtails and tacos. They're putting them

1137
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: in the case oxtail and every everything ain't made to

1138
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: have oxtails.

1139
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 8: An it.

1140
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't have oxtail rabbioli.

1141
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 12: Dam they got oxtail and grip.

1142
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: Now come on, no, no, that might be good.

1143
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: Now come on, come on. I'm not saying it's a

1144
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: little weird.

1145
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 12: Shrimping grits. Yeah, fishing, grits all that. But you want

1146
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 12: some oxtails and grits.

1147
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, ox tell is so good you can just eat.

1148
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: I'll put them on white bread and handle board. Hold

1149
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: that bread and put the numb so the bread come

1150
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: through here.

1151
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 12: See, I figured that's how you. They come right up

1152
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 12: by the grid right to put it right there.

1153
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: I just had something down to maxident.

1154
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 14: Uh.

1155
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: They put the white bread on there, the sugar fried coastlog.

1156
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: I didn't get the coast. I had the hot sauce. Yeah,

1157
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: I got the dogged mm so that mustard.

1158
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 12: You put mustard on your fish. Now, I just want

1159
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 12: hot sauce.

1160
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: You gotta come on, try it?

1161
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 12: Man telling you, But I can't, I mean I can't.

1162
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't think I had croaker, a mullet or whiting

1163
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: since no see that they see they got bones in it.

1164
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't want that though. I almost choked on theble.

1165
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: I just started eating fish. I just started eating fish

1166
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: probably about ten years ago. You know, bone got me

1167
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: get a whole loaf of bread, tried to get it.

1168
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: Out, you know, bread to get it out. I had

1169
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: one that got stuck here when I was little, and

1170
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: I didn't eat fish for about at least about ten years.

1171
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, I'm back.

1172
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: But the other day I was at home eating a

1173
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: little too fast. The bone was right, I got that

1174
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: bread did well. I thought it was a golden doodle bo.

1175
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: I was trying to get it out of there. Yeah, yeah,

1176
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: I did. I had to, but thank god it didn't, man,

1177
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: because I was like, man, I'm enjoying fish. You know,

1178
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: got been through that, but it's scary.

1179
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: So you you stopped eating red meat with any particular

1180
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: reason that you stopped to eating.

1181
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: I went vegan for two and a half years. I

1182
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: was there, it was it was good, you know. At

1183
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: that moment, I was trying to figure out the healthier

1184
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 2: stuff to eat because everything big, it ain't ain't good. No,

1185
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: that stuff got more stuff in and anything exactly. So

1186
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: if you're doing like raw and you know, real, then

1187
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: that's healthy, you know, beyond and all that different burgers.

1188
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: It's okay to transition and have some time, but you

1189
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: can't make that lifestyle either. So I just wanted to

1190
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: clean up, clean up a little bit and say you

1191
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: can't help looking and all the meat.

1192
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 12: You can't choose, you can't have all the bad habits.

1193
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: I did it, Ma you know there you just have

1194
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,479
Speaker 2: to pick and chews. You can't put everything. You gotta

1195
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: have a good ballot.

1196
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: One of your big breaks in the industry came, if

1197
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, you're a backup singer for D'Angelo.

1198
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, yeah, And how did that?

1199
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Because I think Luther was a backup singer for roberta

1200
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: Flat and there have been a lot of people that

1201
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: start out as backups and they moved to the front.

1202
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 12: How do you think that helped your career?

1203
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: You know what, Man, that was one of the most

1204
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: man just mostly exciting and just the deepest learning I've

1205
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: ever done. Like I didn't go to four year college,

1206
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: but I felt like that was a university that you

1207
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: couldn't even pay to get in. You have Pino Paladino,

1208
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: you had Roy Hargrove, Jacques Swarzbach and Russell Gunn, all

1209
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: these Dante Winslow and so for me to learn what

1210
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: true musicianship is, how to control the stage, how the

1211
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: band should play, the dynamics and all the things I learned,

1212
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: I saw the world through through a different through a

1213
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: different lens, and I was able to learn how to

1214
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: lead from learning how to follow. You know what, I

1215
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: mean he was a great leader. He knew he knew

1216
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: music like deep deep, like he was an alien. It

1217
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: was just like Prince and James Brown and cats who

1218
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: just come once in a lifetime, once or twice. Yeah,

1219
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: di'angelo was one of those.

1220
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 12: How did this happen?

1221
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: How did you go?

1222
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 12: How did it happen that you ended up being a

1223
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 12: a singer in it?

1224
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: When I was signing Uptown, I had an album called Ecstasy.

1225
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 2: They spelled it XTC and I hated it, but it

1226
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: was called Ecstasy, and Keeto Maxenberg was working with him

1227
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: at the time, and so he would come over to

1228
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: Tone and Pope in the studio and play Brown Sugar

1229
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: and we would play a few songs off of Ecstasy,

1230
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: and so it was almost like a rival. And when

1231
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: my album never came out, he asked, Hey, what was

1232
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: that guy that was supposed to, you know, come out

1233
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: around the time. They said, man, he's not doing an

1234
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: a deal for us through and ask if I would

1235
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: do background. And at this moment, I was signed a

1236
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: soul life Sunshine Anderson had heard it all before and

1237
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: it was all taking over the world, and I begged

1238
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: my label to let me go out. I said it

1239
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 2: would make me a better artist if you let me. Please,

1240
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: let me go out and sing background.

1241
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 8: Now.

1242
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: I was intimidated, Yeah, because you know, my musical ear

1243
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: and stuff is not as as you know intricate is his,

1244
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: and all the detailed backgrounds and the timing on it.

1245
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just bread and water, back and white, right,

1246
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: And so I had to learn a lot. I had

1247
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: to really pay attention. But it made me sharper. It

1248
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: just made me a better artist all around.

1249
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 12: Why wasn't that hard?

1250
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: Because here you are, you your own, your own, your standalone,

1251
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: and you're wanting to go out and be a back

1252
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: You wanted to be a background singer to someone else.

1253
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 12: You didn't feel that that was insulty.

1254
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: No, I put my ego aside. I felt like, you know,

1255
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: this is something, this is a different movement, you know,

1256
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: to be a part of this, this is gonna be history, right,

1257
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: a different type of history. And to be a part

1258
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: of that. Man, I was like, only a fool would

1259
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: turn that down.

1260
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: Wow, you actually performed one time with him? How does

1261
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: it feel correct?

1262
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: You go on stage every night for over a year,

1263
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 2: we toured the whole world, Brazil, everywhere, did a You're

1264
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: opinion tour for Shoot four three four months, right, two months?

1265
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: However long we were gone, we were gone a long time.

1266
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 12: You still kind of do a rendition of it?

1267
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 8: Right?

1268
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1269
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 8: Man?

1270
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 2: I love that guy.

1271
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 12: Man.

1272
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: I want to make sure his music lives in my house,

1273
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 2: in everybody else's house as long as I can.

1274
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna perform. How does it feel? And

1275
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: then we'll get back and talk about D'Angelo in your relationship?

1276
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's do it alrighty?

1277
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 12: How does it feel?

1278
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 8: Well?

1279
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 6: That's all?

1280
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 8: Do you.

1281
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 15: Have it your way? And if you all you can

1282
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 15: it said? And if you have me, I can provide everything.

1283
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 15: Thatt you aside, babe, shit me get up, feel la.

1284
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 6: Leave that. I mean hold you come closer? Shot away.

1285
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 4: Said you open and got me?

1286
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 6: Pray when you want together?

1287
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 4: I just want to.

1288
01:06:51,840 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 6: Tell me how a billion said I want.

1289
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 10: Thinking?

1290
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 9: How does it? How they want to make your labor?

1291
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 6: Fear me man alone? How one of coming a mountain?

1292
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 8: Oh man.

1293
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,360
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Speaker 12: It's good to be right. What do you remember about

1318
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Speaker 12: the first time that you met D'Angelo.

1319
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: I remember him being excited about me, which was which

1320
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: was kind of you know, kind of cool, right, seeing

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01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: that moment, Blau was actually singing background with us as well. Really, yeah,

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01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: it was me Blaud and Karen Bernard or the singing background.

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: That's the first set of background singers.

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01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 12: Some hitels.

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01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And you know, just he was excited and

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01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 2: he was just like fans of every texture that we

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01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 2: brought to the table.

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01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 12: And you guys were remaining in touch.

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: You guys were friend but unfortunately you missed the last

1331
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: time he last phone call.

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01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 12: Did you know he was sick?

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01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 4: No?

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01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know, man, I hadn't I found out maybe, Oh,

1335
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: I found out maybe two or three weeks before, two

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: weeks before he's passing me. But he had called me

1337
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: like a week prior to that. And I was in

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01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: the dressing room getting ready and I heard the phone.

1339
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: I said, I'll get in a minute. I went, I said,

1340
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: I said, just as deep because I put his name

1341
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: under something different. Yeah, I put it under D Bully. Yeah,

1342
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 2: and uh, I said, man, that's the I know, that's

1343
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: d Angela. So I called him back a few times

1344
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: and he didn't he did, he didn't pick up.

1345
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think about what he wanted to say. You

1346
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: obviously you didn't know he was sick. You didn't know

1347
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: this would probably be the last time. But you guys

1348
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: would ever talk.

1349
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, you have. You have that regret of not answering

1350
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 12: that call.

1351
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: You know what it's not because we talk so much,

1352
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: and I just kind of know kind of how it

1353
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: would probably start off. He called me aunt Jeezy aunt

1354
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 2: jeez and uh, you know, I think I think his

1355
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: spirit's speaking to me. Yes, yeah, I think I kind

1356
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 2: of know what he would say. I don't think he

1357
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: would have poured all that heavy stuff on me, No,

1358
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 2: but he would let me know, like, man, I appreciate you,

1359
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: I love you.

1360
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 12: And you know, right where were you when you got

1361
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 12: the news that he had passed?

1362
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 8: I was.

1363
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 2: We were on the road. Yeah, I think right before,

1364
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: wasn't it right before the Atlanta show? I had a

1365
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: show in Atlanta.

1366
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1367
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 1: He died of pancreatic cancer. Why is that so important

1368
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: for black men to get tested.

1369
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: Early, because if you catch something early enough that there's

1370
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: the chance that you can beat it. Yep, you know,

1371
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: with proper diet and you know, and you know medical attention.

1372
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: I think I think some stuff we can turn it around. Yes,

1373
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 2: we got a better chance. Yes, I was called prostatect

1374
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: cancer early.

1375
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 12: Wow.

1376
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 1: So my father. My father died at thirty nine. He

1377
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: had two brothers that didn't make it to fifty of cancer.

1378
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: So I knew, based on bad I had a high probability.

1379
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: So I started getting tested at thirty five. Wow, that's

1380
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: good winning for a routine. It's like, you know what,

1381
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: you're at the age we're gonna do a colonoscopy. Okay, No,

1382
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: we don't think anything, no symptoms. PSA level was fine,

1383
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: come back my doctor, the urologists. Uh he didn't call me.

1384
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

1385
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 12: It was someone else that called.

1386
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 1: So now all my intentas are, I'm like, okay, he's

1387
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: he's always called me when everything's okay. Now I'm somebody

1388
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: else is like this is such and such. I was like, okay, okay,

1389
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: you seem like mister sharp. We did find we think

1390
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: you'll find right now. But we're just gonna monitor it

1391
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: and uh a couple of months later, I went in,

1392
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: got everything taken care of, and I've been smoothed every since.

1393
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 2: That's good, man. You know, I just did a colonoscopy.

1394
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 2: Uh in the skop he got all hard.

1395
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yea yeah e kg internal organs.

1396
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: I did all Yeah what these premiums calls. Yeah, I'll

1397
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: be there, I'll get everything. Hey, I get my buddy.

1398
01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to man. You know, you know when

1400
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: I speak out about, you know, getting your colonoscopy and

1401
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 2: you know, all that stuff checked out. So I'm you know,

1402
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 2: I'm getting my grown man check ups. Yeah, and it

1403
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: feels good. You can rest because there was a moment

1404
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 2: when I wasn't going. It's like I don't trust the doctor.

1405
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 2: I don't trust them doctors trying to kill me anyway.

1406
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: But you know, you have to you have to know

1407
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 2: what you should be working on.

1408
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: Anything, right, So maybe you have to change your eating habits.

1409
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, we hard. You know it's hard.

1410
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: It's hard because we've ate you eaten a certain way

1411
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: for so long. I remember my grandmother, you know, her

1412
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: last couple of years. You're like baby granny, Granny, go dieing, Wait,

1413
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: go give me some fry shrimp. I know that's right,

1414
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: and so you know what I was like, you know, hey,

1415
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: we we sneaky.

1416
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 12: Go get a prayer.

1417
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: I mean, she was eighty nine years ago, had a

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01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: nice that's a nice time, a great life. It's great life.

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Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,799
Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: simply go back to Club Shape a Foul and I'll

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Speaker 1: see you there.