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Speaker 1: I'm sure Jeff already has, but he just kind of

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Speaker 1: made the point. Well, yeah, look, that's that's that's how

428
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Speaker 1: we play defense. That's how defenses are. We're gonna man

429
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Speaker 1: up the best matchups. But if it's a linebacker, it's

430
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Speaker 1: a safety, whatever it is, that's that's just how you

431
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Speaker 1: play defense. And and we're going to continue to do so.

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Speaker 1: But it was certainly something that that you know, he

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Speaker 1: took notice of, and I'm sure Jeff took notice of.

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Speaker 1: So that should be an interesting matchup at anytime. DK

435
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Speaker 1: and Jeff, who has played pretty well the first three weeks,

436
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Speaker 1: get get squared up. I want to switch gears a

437
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 1: little bit talk about that defense. You've got some young

438
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: players on that defense, you know, especially on the outside

439
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: at cornerback. The lines are dealing with some injuries at

440
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Speaker 1: the skill position. Um that skill position spots, receiver, tight end,

441
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: running back might not have DeAndre Swift. I'm just curious

442
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: what you've seen from that defense the first three weeks

443
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: and is it just a case of some young guys,

444
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 1: you know, kind of getting into the mix, and do

445
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: you see them progressively getting better as the year goes

446
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 1: with as many young guys as you guys are playing

447
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,479
Speaker 1: over there. I mean, I would like to think they

448
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: get better if they start going the other way this

449
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. That's that's problem, and some guys do.

450
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: All young guys don't just progress on the linear line.

451
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 1: Some guys like peaking like week five of the rookie

452
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: year and then just don't don't have it. I don't

453
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Speaker 1: necessarily think that's going to happen to some of the

454
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Speaker 1: young guys they're playing, but because that's a possibility. This

455
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Speaker 1: is why there's such a disconnect between how front offices

456
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 1: view players and how players view players. In some regard,

457
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: like veterans are like, yeah, okay, I may not be

458
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Speaker 1: running a four or three right now, but I'm not

459
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: going to blow all the assignments that a young guy

460
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: might be. Just grab them right out of Ohio State

461
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Speaker 1: and stick them in the starting lineup, you know, Like

462
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Speaker 1: I think that that is real. I remember being told

463
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Speaker 1: on this offseason by some people running the league, like

464
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Speaker 1: when they cut Bobby Wagner, it was very clear that

465
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Speaker 1: they were trying to get quote unquote younger and on defense,

466
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: which most teams are in the offseason. Those are two

467
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: pretty popular buzzwords. But I kept getting reminded by people

468
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: younger and fasted, it's not always mean better, you know,

469
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: like your speed doesn't matter if you run the wrong way,

470
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Speaker 1: you know, if you or if you don't let it

471
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Speaker 1: go where you're supposed to go in your gap or whatever.

472
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Speaker 1: And I think I think that's been illustrated in some

473
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Speaker 1: of the Seattle and some of the things that Seattle

474
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Speaker 1: has given up. You know, in his first first few games.

475
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Speaker 1: You know, whether it's the sixty seven yard touchdown that

476
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Speaker 1: jud Jerry Judy scored over rookie cornerback Kobe Bryant, and

477
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Speaker 1: Kobe's second snap in the in the regular season gives

478
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Speaker 1: up sixty to seven yard touchdown, loses his leverage in

479
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: the slot in a third down situation. You know, it

480
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how fast Kobe was at the time or

481
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Speaker 1: how little his contract matters to another slot cornerback gave

482
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. You know, Like, but some of the young

483
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: dbs have had penalties on them when they have those,

484
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Speaker 1: you know, if they're veteran guys who have kind of

485
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Speaker 1: got a feel for how the league's covering things, you know,

486
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Speaker 1: some of their young linebackers have blown were unfit assignment,

487
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Speaker 1: and the same thing with some of their corners and

488
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Speaker 1: some of their edge guys as well. In the run games.

489
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Speaker 1: Rayther run numbers stink. So I think it'll turn around

490
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Speaker 1: because some of these guys will just naturally get a feel.

491
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Speaker 1: They will have that stefan tape to review, they get

492
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Speaker 1: cutted out by the coach, and they can fix it

493
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Speaker 1: and get better. But those are the growing pains that

494
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Speaker 1: you have and what some veterans will point to and

495
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Speaker 1: be like, We'll see, that's why you don't just cut

496
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Speaker 1: me for some fifth round pick out of you know,

497
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Speaker 1: out of Bama, because I'm not going to blow that thing,

498
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Speaker 1: you know whatever. You know, so, but you know they're

499
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Speaker 1: more expensive too. It's a given take that's also fascinating

500
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Speaker 1: on a big picture level, but specific to this game,

501
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: I do think, yeah, a lot of those guys will

502
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Speaker 1: get better. Kobe Bryant to get better two week willing

503
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Speaker 1: they're starting right, cornerback d get better. Boy, my favor

504
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Speaker 1: second round pick out of Minnesota is going to be

505
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Speaker 1: a beast in the run game. I think passing might

506
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: take a little bit, but they have some guys I

507
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Speaker 1: don't know how well any of those guys will play

508
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, but like we revisit this in like week fourteen,

509
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: like some of those guys might be really on the

510
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: tract to be solid players in their careers. When you

511
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Speaker 1: took a look at this matchup in this game, what

512
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Speaker 1: were maybe two key matchups that you thought would would

513
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Speaker 1: end up being the differ prints in this game? Come

514
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Speaker 1: you know, four o'clock on Sunday in Detroit. Yeah. The

515
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: thing that a few things stood out. One is that

516
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: the Lions run the ball really well, and I think

517
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Speaker 1: that'll maintain as long as most of the linemen are healthy.

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Speaker 1: Like I know DeAndre is very good, but I just

519
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Speaker 1: think that like if you if the blocking is relatively

520
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Speaker 1: the same, you can put a comfortable running back like

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Speaker 1: Jamal in there and get it done as I saw

522
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Speaker 1: against the Vikings. You know, like Jamal just went, went

523
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Speaker 1: and got busy. Is probably the most popular fantasy pickup

524
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Speaker 1: of Week four you know, because of what he was

525
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Speaker 1: able to do, you know, with DeAndre out, So that

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Speaker 1: that matchup was very interesting because Lions are not just

527
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Speaker 1: good at running the ball great running the ball, and

528
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks aren't just bad at run defense, are really

529
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Speaker 1: bad at least through three weeks. So that jumped out

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Speaker 1: as like the first thing. The second thing was looking

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Speaker 1: at some of the pressure stuff because I was curious

532
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Speaker 1: i Aden Hutchinson has been doing, so I look at

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Speaker 1: some of the team's pressure numbers. Like, while the pressure

534
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: numbers are are decent, I was like, but like, no

535
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: one's really popping other than Aiden had the three against Washington.

536
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Speaker 1: So I was like, what's going on here? And then

537
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Speaker 1: I looked and like, I think the Lions are like

538
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Speaker 1: third and blitz rate. They're like, oh, yeah, okay, they're

539
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: sending they're they're sending folks at the quarterback pressure yeah,

540
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: and forcing the quarterbacks to um to operate at a

541
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: high level of a very short amount of time. I

542
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Speaker 1: would be very curious to hear from Glenn if that's

543
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: like been matchup specific, because I think Carson Winston and

544
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins are historically pretty bad against the blitz, so

545
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Speaker 1: that may have just been like, we're blitzing those guys

546
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Speaker 1: because they stink at it, Whereas if they had played

547
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Mahomes in weeks two and three, maybe

548
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: it would have been different because those guys cooked the blitz.

549
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting. But where where does Geno fit

550
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Speaker 1: in that regard in terms of the Blitz. That's a

551
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: good question. So so far, so good. Um, it's not

552
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Speaker 1: a big enough sample size to really know, Like with

553
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Speaker 1: Kirk and Carson, so they've been start us for a

554
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Speaker 1: little bit, so we have a really large sample against

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Speaker 1: them against the Blitz. Generally thinking he's not Geno it's

556
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Speaker 1: not as good against the blitz, but most quarterbacks are not.

557
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Speaker 1: But that is probably the matchup on the other side

558
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Speaker 1: of the ball. That's that's interesting. When the when when

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Speaker 1: Detroit does get to send in the house on those

560
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Speaker 1: passing downs, how how does Geno react, Does he make

561
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Speaker 1: the check to DK, does he hit the hot route?

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00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: So far he's been very good up there down in

563
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: that regard, so we'll see. Those are my two make

564
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: ups kind of on the side of the ball. I

565
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: kind of jumped out before I was even really able

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00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: to watch a lot of film. Again, I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: Michael Seawan Dugard from The Athletic does a great job

568
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Speaker 1: covering the Seahawks. One final one for you, Michael Sean.

569
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks are two and two and get a

570
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: big win in Detroit if what um, if they're more

571
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: physical it in Detroit and that really that can manifest

572
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: itself in so many different ways. You know, you can

573
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: be better in the trenches. That way, you can hit

574
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Speaker 1: the hell out of the receivers or the tight ends

575
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: in the passing game. In that way, you forced turnovers.

576
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Speaker 1: Usually when you're the more physical team, you get sacks.

577
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Speaker 1: Usually when you're the more physical team. There's that's why

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00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: you hear you guys know Dan Campbells probably talked about

579
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Speaker 1: that literally every day, is you know, having a tough,

580
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Speaker 1: physical football team, because when you make that your theme,

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Speaker 1: it can on any given Sunday. It can be you can,

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00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: like I said, it can be forcing turnovers, forcing pressure.

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00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: It can be just putting the fear of godding your

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00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: opponent like the Seahawks did in the twenty and Super

585
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Bow forty eight against the Broncos. Like, there's so many

586
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: ways to beat the opponent if you are just tougher

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00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: than them on that on that day. So while we

588
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: talked about some specific matchups and I think those will

589
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: obviously matter, the main thing is the team that just

590
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: kicks the like is more dedicated to kicking the crap

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00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: out of the opponent is going to win this game.

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00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: I think it's well said, and I think it's two

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00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: teams that have kind of kind of brand branded themselves

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Speaker 1: on being that kind of, um, you know, physical type team.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's a great point by you. Great stuff,

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Speaker 1: Michael Sean. Really appreciate you. Have safe travels out east,

597
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: and I'll make sure you can stop by and say

598
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: hello in the press box. Have good, have a good

599
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: trip over. Thank you for having me. Appreciate I had

600
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: good food last time in twenty eight team when I

601
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: went to Detroit, so I'm looking forward to it again.

602
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's become a foody town now, so

603
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: you'll enjoy it. Yeah, ain't good there, So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to good All right, Thanks again, we'll

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Speaker 1: see in Detroit. Welcome back to the twentyment in the

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Speaker 1: Huddle Podcast and I am joined now by Captain Linebacker

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Speaker 1: Special Teams Extraordinaire Josh Boys. Josh. Thanks for taking the time, man.

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00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having you. Know.

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00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: I wanted to have you on because and I know

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00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: we talked about this before kind of coming up is.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think Lions fans, you know, value how

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00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: important you are to this team and how important special

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00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: teams are to this team. I mean, you're a guy who's,

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00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: you know, annually the leading special teams tackler, you know,

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Speaker 1: your team captain, and then you know, you look at

616
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: last year, they get some injuries. A guy that steps

617
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: in at Denver has what thirteen tackles, two tackles for loss,

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00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback hit. I mean, just being one of those

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Speaker 1: guys that can just step in and really do a

620
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: lot of different things, were a lot of different hats.

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Speaker 1: How much pride do you take in being one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that can kind of do a little bit

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Speaker 1: of everything. I mean that's why, you know, just my

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00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: football career in general, you know, that's always been kind

625
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: of what I do best, you know, just being able

626
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: to adjust, being in adverse situations. But it means a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm honored to where that patch, the captain

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Speaker 1: pass this year, first year, um, and uh, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a blessing, you know. I look at every day as

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Speaker 1: a blessing of being this building, being undrafted practice squad,

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00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: Like I know what it's like on the other side.

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00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: If you don't do those things, if you aren't the

633
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: dependable guy, you know. So that's that's really, that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. Every day. What was that day like for you?

635
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Because captain c that's something that's voted on by the players, right,

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Speaker 1: Coaches have nothing to do with that. That's nothing else

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Speaker 1: that's inside that locker room. That's the respect that you

638
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: garner from the guys that you were to war with

639
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: on Sunday. So so how much did you value that

640
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: confidence from from your teammates and that vote as being

641
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: one of their captains. I'm not gonna lie. When coach

642
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: made the announcement, I mean I had goose bumps, you know.

643
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Is uh it's like that. There's nothing like respect from

644
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: your peers. Yeah, you know, um, but it's definitely a challenge.

645
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: You know. I can't have those I can't have down days.

646
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: I can't have days where you know, something's not right.

647
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: But I owe it to those guys, you know. UM,

648
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: very appreciative of you know, the captain patch. I really am. Okay,

649
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: there's one other thing I want to talk about here,

650
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: and it was one of the funnier moments of hard knocks,

651
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, where I'm going to this. The heck goes

652
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: down right away, and it was one of the most

653
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: amazing things. And I don't think people saw it right away.

654
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: And I hope if you guys haven't seen it, you're

655
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: gonna go back and watch the Aiden Hutchinson dance again

656
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: because during this, all of a sudden, a shirt comes

657
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: flying through the air. I mean, he's doing great, right,

658
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: you guys are getting all rowdy, right, I think it's

659
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: Jared Davis, right, takes his shirt off, hurls it. You're

660
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: in the front row, And first off, were you guys

661
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: always sat in the front row where you were that

662
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: kid in school? Yeah? I was the backseat guy, closest door,

663
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: like way back there. So Jared starts hurling this thing around,

664
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: throws it and in one motion you didn't even turn

665
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: your head. You catch it and you start going with it.

666
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: What was that like being in that in that moment there,

667
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: it seemed like it had to have been a riot. Yeah. No,

668
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: that that was the best rookie performance I've ever seen.

669
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: So shout out to Aiden for that. But the whole time,

670
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: I like, I catch it, I see it, We're going

671
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: Did you wonder where it came from? That was the

672
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: question that I had. So everybody's like, how did he

673
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: see it? How did he see it? No, who threw it?

674
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: Where did this shirt come from? You know? But if

675
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: you if you watch it really closely, I'm I'm like

676
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: checking because it was great all in one motion. I

677
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: mean you're going to the catch, to the keep it going.

678
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was seamless. I have to say, your

679
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: athletic traits were on full display right there, right now,

680
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: and that was my That was my best moment of camp.

681
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Just in general, I think so special teams obviously you're

682
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: a huge part of it. You were sport fourth most

683
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: specialty or tackles in the league, I believe last year.

684
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: But there's a huge emphasis here with Dan Campbell on

685
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: special teams. You watch a practice during training camp, during

686
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: gotees or whatever, there's a lot of time and resources

687
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: spent on special teams. What is it like to be

688
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: part of a unit where they're so valued by the

689
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: head coach like that. No, it's great because it's not

690
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: like that everywhere. Um coming from Maryland, coach Durkin put

691
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: a huge emphasis on special teams, So it really just

692
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, kind of just rolled on over. It was

693
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: great to be a part of unit like that where

694
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: we do put so much effort into it because it's

695
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: so important. You know, it probably gets the least amount

696
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: of publicity, least amount of TV until something goes wrong,

697
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: until something goes wrong, and then what are those guys doing?

698
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: You know, But I mean it's the most important playing football.

699
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: Like how many players like on average or are guaranteed

700
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: forty plus yards punt. You know, it's really the only phase.

701
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: It's so important, you know, things like that, we work

702
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: punt three four times a week. Um, it really just

703
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: allows guys to really work on their craft, allows guys

704
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: to compete because guys on the look team, I mean

705
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: they're fighting for jobs too, so we really get a

706
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: great look and it's easy on Sunday when we do

707
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: when you do it like that, because you don't want

708
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: the game day to be the first time you get tested, right, So, um,

709
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: it's it's a great it's a great way to go

710
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: about an attack special teams. You guys were seventh and

711
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Rick Gosling's rankings, He's sure, do you guys pay attention

712
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: to those rankings? I know he's he's one of the

713
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: ones that you know, does it every year, but seventh,

714
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you were one of the top units all

715
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: across the boards. You're good. Jack Fox's terrific punter. I

716
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: mean your cover units were really, really good. Dave Phip

717
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: strikes me as a very detail oriented guy. I mean

718
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: he's great with the media with us. I'm just curious,

719
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes, what kind of coaches it is. Dave.

720
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: I like coach Fhip a lot, because not only is

721
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: he super detail oriented, but he also listens. Right, so

722
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: I'll be able to come off the field and he'll

723
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: ask me what I see, or I'll tell them like, hey,

724
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: I think they're doing this, and right away, like we'll

725
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 1: talk about it, we'll have a check and as soon

726
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: as that same phases back up that Like he takes

727
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: exactly what all the players are saying into account, you know.

728
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's what helps the whole unit work

729
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: because we're in constant communication. It's not my way. If

730
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, we're just gonna keep doing it, keep

731
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: doing it. Like, no, he listens to us. We're the

732
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: ones out there playing. You almost feel like you have

733
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: ownership over it. Yeah, kind of like talking about with

734
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: Jared in the offense right and going to him and

735
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: creating the schemes. I mean, it seems like that's the

736
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: same way with you guys, and having that ownership of it. Yeah.

737
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: Now you started your career, Correct me if I'm wrong.

738
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: You were a defensive back in a wide receiver. When

739
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: did the transition come to linebacker for you? When I

740
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: didn't get signed at my tryout for rookie mini camp

741
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: with the Bears in eighteen, Okay, you were safety at

742
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: that point. I was a safety, okay, And so you

743
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: were safety all through college last two years okay, yep.

744
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: So by the time I got to college, no more

745
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: receiver was playing a corner. When the Dirk and regime

746
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: got there, switched to safety, and by the time I

747
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: got to Chicago, I was probably like two sixteen. They

748
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: were like after this was post practice. They were like, oh, yeah, no,

749
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: we're learned some stuff about the box. Come back vetmini camp,

750
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: we'll see what's up. That's when they signed me. Gain Away,

751
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: I was steaking potatoes every day. Shout out to coach

752
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Keith and it's probably gonna stay. Yeah. Steaking potatoes every

753
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: day for lunch for five weeks worked. Wow? And it worked.

754
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: So how much did you gain in that time frame

755
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: before he came back. I was when I signed. I

756
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: was a little I was like two thirty six that

757
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: rookie year. I got up to two forty seven. But

758
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: that was bad. That was bad for my back bath,

759
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: for my knees. I remember specifically there was a playing

760
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: individual where I just dropped to both knees because I

761
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: had a backspatsm. I was like, yeah, two forty that's

762
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: my cutoff. Can't do that. But yeah, so I'm right now,

763
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm rolling it like anywhere between thirty thirty five. Feels good.

764
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: It feels good. It looks good too. You are really

765
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: valuable to this football team, special teams, defense, one of

766
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: those guys that kind of does it all. You had to,

767
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: you know. I love the fact that you appreciate how

768
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: you got to where you are because it wasn't like

769
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: everybody else. You know, you weren't handed to be check

770
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: in the first round pick and all that other stuff.

771
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: You worked where you you know needed to be. You've

772
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: done a great job. You're a really valuable part of

773
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: this football team. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate you. Yeah, thanks,

774
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: thank you. It is time for the bet MGM key matchups,

775
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: and like always, I've got five of them, and listen,

776
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: week we're gonna start with one. I kind of talked

777
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: off the top, but it's Jeff Okuda and DK Metcalf. Obviously,

778
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the comments that DK Metcalf,

779
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, made about Jeff this week. Jeff's playing terrific.

780
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: I talked off the top, you know about the thirty

781
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: six yards per game, no touchdown, seventy four point six

782
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: passer rating. He has been great, and you know, if

783
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: he continues on this trend, it's really gonna allow you know,

784
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn to do some creative things coverage wise. Maybe

785
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: we see Jeff shadow a receiver, and I think that'll

786
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: be the interesting thing about this matchup is will he

787
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: be shadowing DK, you know, Metcalf, because Metcalf is a

788
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: different kind of beast than Justin Jefferson was last weekend.

789
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: All Jeff Okuda did last week was hold Justin Jefferson

790
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: into two catches in nine yards. But DK Metcalf six

791
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: foot four, two hundred and thirty five pounds four three Look,

792
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: he's got thirty touchdowns and over three thousand, three hundred

793
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: yards since first three years in the league. I mean,

794
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: he is a big play threat. He's physical, he's strong,

795
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: he's hard to tackle, and so you know, I think

796
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: when those two are matched up, you know, Jeff hasn't

797
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: been afraid to mix it up and put his hat

798
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: on guys in the run game, be physical on the

799
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: outside with receiver. So you know, I kind of just

800
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: selfishly hope we see that matchup quite a bit because

801
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: I'd love to see how jeff O Couder responds. Can't

802
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: he keep dk Metcalf down. I think that'll be one

803
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: of the big big matchups in this game. Number two

804
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: for me is Jared Golf, quarterback for the Lions, and

805
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: Quandre Diggs, who I know Lions fans will know the safety,

806
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, who was traded to Seattle, you know, a

807
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: few years ago. But when I look at Jared in

808
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: the way he's got such control and command of this offense,

809
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: he's playing terrific. Look, he's got eight passes of twenty

810
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: five plus yards. That's third most in the NFL, behind

811
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: only Mac Jones and Patrick Mahomes. He's eighth in QBR

812
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: and I think he's coming off arguably his best game

813
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: of the season last week in Minnesota where you know,

814
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: he was able to use his legs evade pressure, really

815
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: had command of the offense and knew where to get

816
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: the ball and got it there on time. You know,

817
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I think his stats could have looked a lot better

818
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: if if they connect on some of those plays down

819
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: the field that that weren't necessarily his fault. So, um,

820
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's playing great and you're playing

821
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: a guy in Quandre Diggs who's looking to become only

822
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: player in NFL history to have six straight seasons with

823
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: at least three picks. I mean that's what he does. Um,

824
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: he gets his hands on the football. He's he's very savvy. Um.

825
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: And so that to me is a key matchup there.

826
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: Can can Jeff, can Jared excuse me, manipulate him with

827
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: his eyes a little bit, keep him out of some

828
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: passing lanes. And if you're Quandre, look you that's a

829
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: young defense. You're a veteran guy on that defense. You

830
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: know that to make a huge impact is turn the

831
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: ball over. That's going to be huge in this game,

832
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: obviously for two teams that are both looking to go

833
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: too and two with a big win. Turnovers are always

834
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: the key staff and wins and losses. So can Jared

835
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: keep it away from Quandre? Can Quandre, you know, help

836
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: his defense out by getting a big turnover. That's a

837
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: key matchup to me. Number three is is Dj Chart

838
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: first Tarik Woolan the rookie cornerback for Seattle. We're gonna

839
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: have to wait and see. With DJ obviously practice limited

840
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: fast um on Wednesday with the ankle, didn't practice Thursday,

841
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: but I still see him going. Um, he wasn't one

842
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: of those ones that that Dan Campbell's seen overly concerned

843
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: about when talking about the injuries on Wednesday. So um,

844
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: for for this I'm gonna expect him to be playing

845
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: and um, you know he's the healthiest of those of

846
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: those guys I think in terms of am on And

847
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: and Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds returned to practice on UM Thursday.

848
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: But but I think Chark's got a really interesting matchup

849
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: this week with Tariq woolland because they're similar type guys. Um. Look,

850
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: DJ Chark was brought here to be that taller, fifty

851
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: fifty guy make those plays down the field. And when

852
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: I look at Woollen six foot four, two hundred and

853
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: five pounds, Um, you know four three type guy. Um,

854
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: he was. He's been thrown at twelve times this year.

855
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: He's given up six catches in quarterbacks have only a

856
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: forty point six passer rating with throwing against him. He's

857
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: been pretty good to start, and so I would expect

858
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: him to be mad matched up against DJ. Just physically,

859
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: they match up well against each other. DJ six four,

860
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: you know over two hundred four three type guy. Well,

861
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: so they're very similar type. Um. You know, you know, body, mold, speed, physicality,

862
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. So, you know, Detroit just missed with

863
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: DJ on a couple big places. I know he had

864
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: a hot start to begin and I don't know how

865
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: much that ankle injury may be played into, you know,

866
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: not having as much production in the second half. But um,

867
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: that's a guy that they want to get going. Um.

868
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: You know, Jared Goff has talked about that that that

869
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: that they need to kind of get that connection going.

870
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: We saw it a little bit more last week. I

871
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: would continue or I would expect to see that continue

872
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: to kind of trend in that direction. And so, you know,

873
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: can he find himself you know open downfield. Tarika is

874
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: a rookie. Rookies make mistakes as we all know, So

875
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: can he find himself behind the defense, can he make

876
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: a pig play? And can him and Jared kind of

877
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: connect and be a difference maker for Detroit's offense. I

878
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: think that's a key matchup in this one. I'm gonna

879
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: go right back to to you know, Detroit secondary and

880
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: you know the Seattle receiving core because I do think,

881
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: um it's one of the better receiving cores that the

882
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: Lions have faced early on the season. And to me,

883
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: Amani or you Ayer and Tyler Lockett or the combination

884
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: of you know, Lockett and Jeff Okuda and Ordu Way

885
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: and Metcalf, however it turns out, I just think those

886
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: are two really huge matchups on the outside. Obviously a

887
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: tough week last week for Amani. You know, he has

888
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: flagged six times, they accepted four um and you know,

889
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: I thought he had a little bit of a target

890
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: on his back with some of those calls. I went

891
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: back and watched a couple of those were a little

892
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: bit iffy, but still it's something that Aaron Glenn and

893
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: him have worked on this week about lowering his hands

894
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: and working on some technique stuff. So you know, we'll

895
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: see how he bounces back. The thing about Amani is

896
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: is you know he's a pro. Right, He's one of

897
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: the few guys on that Lions defense that can turn

898
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: the ball over. We saw it with the six interceptions

899
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: last year. You know, he's a guy that that you know,

900
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: they need him to play well for that defense to

901
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: play well. Lockett, it's just one touchdown to be fifth

902
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: on the all time Seahawks touchdown list, so obviously he's

903
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: been doing it at a high level for a long time.

904
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: He leads them in receptions, leads them in yards um

905
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: this season, so between him and DK, you know, that's

906
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: a tough ask for for Jeff Okuda and many are

907
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: you way, but it's why I think this is such

908
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: a huge matchup. Lock It last year five games with

909
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: at least one hundred yards receiving. So he's he's kind

910
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: of that that that big play that go to that

911
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: consistent guy at wide receiver. M The Lions need a

912
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: Monty or Are to have a bounce back game this week,

913
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: and we'll see if he can do it against Tyler Lockett.

914
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: And I want to end finally with this one. Aidan

915
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Hutchinson verse Abraham Lucas rookie right tackle for Seattle, Aidan Hutchinson.

916
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: You know, coming off that game, you know, week two

917
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: with three sacks, the momentum was so high, and then

918
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: you know it suffered the you know, thigh injury the

919
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Charlie Horse. I don't know how much that affected him.

920
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: He was out, she slowed in practice. He played last week,

921
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: but only one quarterback pressure. I think that was his

922
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: only statistic that showed up. Yeah, that he just needs

923
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: to be more impactful than that. He's got a rookie

924
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: matchup this week. Even though that rookie has played you

925
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: know pretty well. He hasn't allowed to sack in three games,

926
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: but he has allowed three hits, four hurries hurries for

927
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: seven total pressures. So you know, if you're Aiding, you've

928
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: got to go into this matchup thinking, okay, hey, I've

929
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: got a rookie UM. Even though I'm a rookie UM.

930
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: You know, this isn't kind of one of those veteran

931
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: guys that that that's you know, it's been around for

932
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: a long time, has built up that repertoire and you

933
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: know that film study to be able to really kind

934
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: of shut down guys on the edge. So if you're aiding.

935
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: You've got to really look for a bounce back week.

936
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: And much like we talked about with Moni or Y,

937
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: I think he's got to play well. Jeff got to

938
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: play well for this defense to be better. A Hutchinson

939
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: has to play well too, and the Lions need to

940
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: pressure Gino Smith. Look, Gino's completing seventies seven percent of

941
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: his passes. He's very much an on schedule. Um, you know,

942
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: throw the ball where you're supposed to do type quarterback

943
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: and so um. You know, I think it's huge to

944
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: kind of speed up his clock, get him off his spot. UM.

945
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: And and Aiden and Charles Harris are the two guys

946
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: that that you know are going to be tasked with

947
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: doing that. But for me, it's it's a number two

948
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: picks has got to really just step up and give

949
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: you more than one pressure. I think the expectation can't

950
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: be three sacks every week obviously, um, but you got

951
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: to have more impact than one pressure. Um. He's now

952
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, a couple of weeks removed

953
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: from that injury. He didn't have to sleep in practice

954
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: this week. He was at practice all week, so I

955
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: would expect him to be uh, you know, much more

956
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: ready to roll, much more ready to create havoc, and

957
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: he's going to have to if the Detroit Lions are

958
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: are are going to be better defensively this week on Sunday.

959
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: So those were your bet MGM key matchups. Michael Sean

960
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: was terrific previewing Seattle. Josh Woods is great and you

961
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: guys have to go to his Instagram page because he's

962
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: hilarious over there. Obviously, Big Game Sunday, PJ Clark and

963
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: I will be at Ford Field breaking it all down,

964
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: So stay with us. We've got a lot more coming

965
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: as we get ready for Detroit and Seattle Sunday at

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Speaker 1: Ford Field